Shrek 1: Everyone hates me because they assume I'm a scary ogre! Shrek 4: I want to be a scary ogre again!

@camerongreen2587

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff Anderson that’s deep

@Yzerbruh

4 жыл бұрын

I think "Shrek 1: I like being a scary ogre!" would be more apt. He went and saved Fiona because the fairytale creatures didn't fear him and were squatting on his turf. After spending time with Fiona he fell in love and wanted to be with her, but at the start he only intended to be her escort. There never was a turning point were Shrek decided he no longer wanted to be feared by the townspeople.

@daraghokane4236

4 жыл бұрын

@@Yzerbruh His talk with donkey. I don't have a problem with the wolrd they have a problem with me. THey look at me and see a monster judge me before they get to know me. He doesn't like that everyone is scard of him he just has to role with it

@captainham1511

4 жыл бұрын

Daragh O'kane I’d say it’s more like he loves being a scary ogre but it’s not like everyone wants to do something they love all the time. Like even if he wanted a break from being a scary ogre, it’s never an option for him and that probably gets draining after awhile.

@TheRealLittleBIGhead

4 жыл бұрын

If you'll remember, in the first movie, he was intentionally playing the part of a "scary ogre" largely for reasons that Schaffrillas talked about in his Shrek 2 video (kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4Kfmdtvk5S6n9o.html). Shrek thought that that was just his lot in life, where everyone saw him & treated him as a monster. And because of that, he played the part for it, and even believed it himself, somewhat. He did it partially to stick it to the people who treated them that way in an act of stubborn defiance, but mostly because it just seemed pointless NOT to. But, if you'll remember, he also had FUN with it. "This is the part where you run away." *laughs as all of them scramble away screaming* "Oh, really? You, and what army?" *smug look* Even though he hated it overall, there was a unique aspect of it that he enjoyed, and it made sense that a large part of him would get nostalgic for what he could no longer have, while forgetting or downplaying what he hated about it, at least during his mid-life crisis... thing. I think most people have nostalgia for at least one long crappy period in their lives or another after it's over. Missing all of the spare time and relatively small worries you had when you were in middle or high school as compared to an adult is probably the most common irl example, but there are tons of others. It's honestly realistic. tl;dr it's actually realistic because sadly, in reality, people often want contradictory things, and also nostalgia goggles.

Shrek 4 was actually a great film. Shrek had everything he’s ever wanted and it made him feel like his life was over in a way. It’s not supposed to be another great metaphor or satire of anything, just a continuation of a character’s life and story. Shrek had it all then lost it all only to realize he truly was happy even if he himself didn’t know it

Shrek is very deep. Just like his "swamp".

@helium-379

4 жыл бұрын

A man of culture

@hmmmhmmm6917

4 жыл бұрын

@darklordster you're a genius.

@King-Beezy

4 жыл бұрын

Ogres have layers

@awesomeness1122

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't his swamp only go up to his knees or something.

@primitivojdavis

4 жыл бұрын

Just Some Guy without a Mustache “maybe they’re compensating for something “😏😂😂

We actually studied the first shrek movie in my college script writing class. The film has the perfect 3 act structure.

@user-cd4bx6uq1y

3 жыл бұрын

299th

@amirphoenix2327

2 жыл бұрын

I wanna learn about movies or tv shows, can you tell me some free online lessons if you know about them

@jorikatojmarova7913

2 жыл бұрын

hello I am very intererested in the “study”, could you maybe please write me?

"they judge me before they even know me. that's why I'm better off alone." felt that

@alexsierra4878

3 жыл бұрын

Same bro

@bryanortiz8421

2 жыл бұрын

Shrek really helped me as a kid being a loner but finding my own happiness with my own people

Rewatching Shrek as an adult and understanding all the innuendos is one of the greatest things ever : )

@bigstunna2049

4 жыл бұрын

Especially the 2nd one

@ungobungo7986

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigstunna2049 yeah the 2nd film is dirty as fuck

@colinstu

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck do I need to rewatch these now???!!!

@stuckupcurlyguy

4 жыл бұрын

Do you think maybe he's compensating for something?

@RK-ep8qy

4 жыл бұрын

Your Boy Mr Mac that’s one obvious line, what are the others

Shrek 2 will always be my favorite. Great punchlines, endearing characters, heartwarming moments. Deep or dumb. I agree that the first two movies had better writing.

@ungobungo7986

4 жыл бұрын

@ghoulwart 4th and 1st were great

@Vampiregirl1895

4 жыл бұрын

Shrek 2 had Puss. To this day I cannot think of Shrek without Puss. I rewatched Shrek a while back and I actually forgot that puss was only introduced in the second one. It's not often that a character can be introduced in a later film and still be 100% accepted as much as Puss was.

@ungobungo7986

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah his voice acting was spectacular and his little curly toed weirdo mannerisms really suit him

@derfuchs3296

4 жыл бұрын

The last 20 minutes of Shrek 2 were one of the best moments in animation, ever.

@saulgoodmanbrah

4 жыл бұрын

ghoulwart that is true at at least it had a better plot

Thanks wisecrack, I wasn't feeling all that old but then you had to mention shrek is 18 years old..... goddamn

I think the 4th was amazing from an entirely story telling point. Maybe it does not fit in the philosophy presented the first 2 movies (the third does not exist), but it does not have to. They explored the last question in our characters journey: After you got everything you wanted and you fought for, now what? Life becomes dull to Shrek he never really got used to the whole parenting thing and being popular, so he wished to change everything. The move makes our characters live a life without each other, they realize why they ended up together on the beginning and they fight again to gain each other back. I also liked the deeper exploration between Shrek and Fiona's relationship. I thought it was a good movie to end the franchise, and it might not be deep, but I don't think is a story made for us to ponder much about its message, I really believe the story was made for the characters.

@FraserSouris

2 жыл бұрын

I'd buy that, but it still has to adjust what we know of the characters to even function. Like, Shrek 1 and 2 Fiona's whole deal was that the conventional view of happiness isn't accurate to everyone. Even ignoring that, if the film is going to ignore the philosophy of its predecessors just to say "nah, the status quo is good", then I ask why the film needs to be made? Like, Imagine a video game like say Call of Duty, that's always been a first person shooter. But the lastest game is now a driving game. Even if it's a great driving game, you ask why it had to be one?

@wesleywallace4426

Жыл бұрын

Shrek is selfish for not caring how his friends, family, and wife feels. If Shrek thinks his life is becoming a joke he should have opened up. As opposed to signing a life changing contract without even consulting Fiona. Even if she wasn’t upset Shrek would even think of signing the contract she would’ve pointed the flaws Shrek neglected to notice.

all i know is that somebody once told me the world was gonna rule me, that i was not the sharpest tool in the shed

@MLBlue30

4 жыл бұрын

Only shooting stars break the mold.

@ttd0000

4 жыл бұрын

Was she lookin' kinda dumb with her finger and her thumb in the shape of a "L" on her forehead?

@stephenreos9316

4 жыл бұрын

*Roll me

@thevrana

4 жыл бұрын

@@stephenreos9316 Was about to say it

@zBorderPatrol

4 жыл бұрын

@@ttd0000 Well the years start coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming

To me I think the problem with why Shrek changed so drastically after the second movie was because they didn't have any of the original people behind the first two movies. In the first shrek they had Ted Elliott, Terry Rossio, Joe Stillman, and Roger Schulman as the writers. It was also directed by Andrew Adamson and Vicky Jenson. In the second movie at least 3 of the 4 writers left but still had Joe Stillman and had Andrew Adamson in place of both writer and director. And that's also not mentioning the producers which they still brought 2 of 3 over from the second movie. Go over to the third and fourth. None of the people that were involved in the first or second movie had any involvement whatsoever. Unless you want to count story credit by Andrew Adamson. But that's it.

@DiXtionRap

4 жыл бұрын

This is an informative comment, a very rare thing indeed; you should be proud

@Sodendop

4 жыл бұрын

This is an under rated post

@jlupus8804

4 жыл бұрын

Did Dreamworks not want them? Did the producers not want them? Did they turn it down? How could you do a Shrek movie without it’s creators and shakers?

@Sodendop

4 жыл бұрын

Not to take away any fire OP but what you point out here is how a lot of people feel about the simpsons after seasons 7-8 as the core members and writing staff from the early seasons were almost gone which shows in the quick decline in quality of story telling as well as the ratings.

@bitchington3194

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Adamson had limited commitments with Shrek the Third. But he had bigger commitments with the first Cronicles of Narnia movie. Well as everyone else I guess wanted to move on. Even when you look at the people from the third and fourth movie, they have completely different people again. I'm thinking maybe it's a case of DreamWorks wanting to make more Shrek movies for the sake of having good bank.

5:27- notice how the crowd genuinely cheers for Shrek and even gives him suggestions while they only do the same, but ingeniously having to do said actions when Farquad having to literally script their actions via large written boards. It shows the difference between spontaneous Chaos and orthodox Order.

@gladham774

4 жыл бұрын

Shrek would take good suggestions. That's spontaneous order.

1st and 2nd Movies - Deep 3rd and 4th Movies - Dumb Edit: I made that comment BEFORE watching the video. It’s an obvious tonal shift.

@christianbustnes9212

4 жыл бұрын

D Mittleman Basically yes

@jukesdtj656

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, the 4th one is a fun kind of dumb. The 3rd one though, is just dumb.

@lucinda1949

4 жыл бұрын

@@jukesdtj656 yeah

@raghmane

4 жыл бұрын

Actually Shrek 4 is waaaay too dramatic

@sinnamonroll2780

4 жыл бұрын

They should have stopped at 2 or at least given more time to write 3 and 4 so it actually makes sense with the first 2 movies.

-Shrek "deep or dumb?" -Yes

Shrek became what it mocked in the end. Seeing Farquad was a mockery 2 decades before it's time is eerie, though.

@jeffbenton6183

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean 20 years before it's time?

@threesixtydegreeorbits2047

4 жыл бұрын

white america's worst nightmare 🤔

@yoelazar3935

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by that of he became what he mocked ?

I always saw the ending of Shrek the Third as society accepting the flaws in everyone and that people can be more than the labels society puts on them. With Fiona and Lilian turning the other princess from Damsels in Distress into total badasses; Arthur going from social outcast to effective leader; and the villains learning that they don’t have to do bad stuff just because society expects them to.

@mahmeme

3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I took from the third film. While I'll say it isn't as memorable to me as the other films in the series, I think it was decent enough and not trash as other people claim it to be.

@alexiswelsh5821

3 жыл бұрын

@@mahmeme Thanks, I was honestly shocked when I heard that people hate the third film. I loved it. The 4th film however, I didn’t like.

@FraserSouris

2 жыл бұрын

I feel this message is undermined because there's still a specific "conventional" place people have to go to. Like, in Shrek 1, Shrek's happiness didn't come from him continuing to live alone. It was how his particular lifestyle and character got through to others and how they got through to him. In contrast Arthur doesn't become an effective leader by embracing what makes him unique. He just becomes a new generic king.

@yugiohgames104

Жыл бұрын

@@alexiswelsh5821 What are you talking about man? Shrek 4 was better than Shrek 3. I mean Shrek 3 had some funny moments and a teeny bit good scenes but I still think it's bad because of the writing, Prince Charming, and the music choices. Shrek 4 was better because it's the finale, it has a better message, better art, and Rumpelstilsken.

@pyrokatarina

Жыл бұрын

@@yugiohgames104 I agree, shrek 4 is the only shrek film that made me cry. The underlying message and theme is very effective

I loved that they included the only good joke in the third one: “shut it Wendy”

@cyberkebab

3 жыл бұрын

I don't get it

@yugiohgames104

Жыл бұрын

And the zoom out by the lamest villian yet, Prince Charming

@whyme3772

Жыл бұрын

The Third one had quite a bit of funny moments in it. The movie is just forgettable to me is all.

It's 2019 and still Shrek is love, Shrek is life.

Quotes like "a life of solitude and smash mouth" is the reason I'm subscribed to you guys

1st, 2nd, and 4th film: Deep 3rd film: Dumb Yeah I actually think 4 is a great movie

@ambiguoussarcasm

4 жыл бұрын

You’re right

@catvelvet8764

4 жыл бұрын

me too! makes me cry everytime

@merkkar1

3 жыл бұрын

TRUE, TRUE!!! I WAS CRYING FOR PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK LIKE THIS UNTIL I MET YOU!!! I love you

@K1ng1995

3 жыл бұрын

I agree I thought the lesson it was trying to teach was to appreciate what you have and that Nostalgia can be dangerous. When you crave wanting to return to your past, it blinds you to what you have now. Shrek was married, had kids, had friends that cared about him.

@mertberkit587

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone thinks

Do the last two movies undercut the thesis of the first two or do they admit nuance in the subject matter? Self-Acceptance, tolerance, and individualism are all great things as the first two film convey. However, just like ogres, good thesis's have layers. Shrek 3 and 4 admit that all they said before is true, but the issues are more nuanced then first presented. None of those things are a binary or absolute good. Taken to an extreme, self-acceptance can sometimes lead us to give up other things we value, like self-fulfillment and self-actualization (i.e. somewhere down the line the "villains" accepted they were "bad people" and stopped trying to be their best self). Taken to an extreme, individualism can sometimes lead us to isolate ourselves and forget about the needs of others (i.e. Shrek priorities his own happiness over his wife's or children's in Shrek 4 and ends up all alone and more miserable than before). Obviously that isn't to say that self-acceptance and individualism are "bad", the whole series laughs at that label in general, just complicated. That is something about philosophy that can be frustrating to many people, the inconclusiveness of nuance, the complexity of multi-layered argument, the unsatisfying nature of faceted issues. All of the above doesn't give us the rush of having our opinions validated, but perhaps we come out of it a little more informed then we were before.

@daegan_ftw

4 жыл бұрын

I feel like I read this in my mind before I scrolled long enough to see it with my eyes. I always thought that Shrek Forever After was the opposite side of the same coined we saw in Shrek and Shrek 2. It is not a contradiction, it is a completion.

@votecthulhu9378

4 жыл бұрын

"good thesis's have layers" lmao

@MostLikelyMu

4 жыл бұрын

This is based. You are based.

@MostLikelyMu

4 жыл бұрын

@@daegan_ftw it's like poetry, it rhymes.

@1mag1nat1vename

4 жыл бұрын

@@daegan_ftw I agree. The fact that you can become non-villainous is a concept that people thought required divine intervention, until recently. I always thought that Arthur was encouraging the "villains" to define themselves, which is the ultimate freedom.

*Shrek 2 was the pinnacle!*

@FourTwenT

4 жыл бұрын

True! Shrek 2 has more replay value, but Shrek 1 will remain a classic forever

"People liked Shrek" -Philosophy Tube with an Australian accent.

@Roiben100

4 жыл бұрын

Yooo not cool making me tear up out of nowhere on a Shrek video.

@elinobenjamin

4 жыл бұрын

Shrek had friends!

@ThatOneGuy7550

4 жыл бұрын

Philosophy Tube? Nice

@ILikedGooglePlus

4 жыл бұрын

Philosophy tube is good

@baltofarlander2618

4 жыл бұрын

Philosophy tube is nothing but propaganda...

We know from the Shrek 3d special that farquaad died and came back as a ghost

@TheLegonaut

4 жыл бұрын

Glad I wasn't the only one to remember

Many layers. VERY deep.

@Breidablik06

4 жыл бұрын

Like an onion

@MeAndMichaelOeuo

4 жыл бұрын

Like an onion

@matthaeus5373

4 жыл бұрын

Like an onion

@TwinKids3895

4 жыл бұрын

Like a parfait

Only the most intelligent can appreciate just how deep Shrek is

Title: the shrek movies: are they deep or dumb Me an intellectual: how do you dare to question a God

I remember when I went to see _the Third_ and I was convinced they were going to have the reveal that Prince Charming was Arthur's dead-beat dad. I mean they look a lot alike, Arthur's dad being a dead-beat is a plot-point, Prince Charming is the villain and he is just the kind of spoiled rich kid who would have his mother "take care of" any unwanted pregnancy. Either that or he thought he could get his crown the easy way by banging Fiona's cousin, but leaving when he finds out that she was nowhere near the heir.

One of my favorite things in the series actually comes from the 4th movie, and that is how it portrays true love: where as other movies portray your true love as a thing that has been predetermined, the 4th movie actually shows that that isn't the case, as when fiona kisses him the first time in the alternate timeline, nothing happens, because love doesn't work like that.

Farquad is dead, Shrek 3D confirmed it by having them fight his ghost.

Personally I thought Shrek 3 was deep, or at least had the potential to be deep. The core conflict is the villains wanting happily ever afters, and Arthur's speech saying they can make their own happy endings by putting aside their evil ways isn't so much reinforcing the idea of good/bad moral binary as much as it is deconstructing the concept of good/bad moral binary and emphasizing free will. Granted theirs a lot more that could have been done; exploring how villains became villains as victims of circumstance, emphasizing how Arthur's reign will be marked with honest efforts to reform the criminal element and reintegrate them into society rather than to punish and ostracize them, maybe even a support group throwaway gag in the credits.

@alexanderchristopher6237

4 жыл бұрын

I think you got it right. Thematically, it broke away from the other movies so far by saying villains must do good to achieve their happy endings. Yet from a realistic POV, it implies that those people we called crooks can be a part of our society again and it began first within themselves as a choice.

@vaudreelavallee3757

4 жыл бұрын

Charming needed Shrek to play the part of a villain in order to look more heroic. Charming needed for people to see Shrek as a villain - ergo the play. Charming was trying to define Shrek as a villain so that the murder of him seems noble and good and Charming can project the image of himself that he wants people to buy. They are villains because someone else needed them to be villains, someone else benefitted from their villainhood. Charming promised them revenge for their mistreatment, but he needed them to stay villains - he could not let them stop being villains. It is about whether you are what someone else wants you to be or what you want to be. Charming offered them the opportunity for revenge and some of the perks they missed out on. Arthur offered them the opportunity to not let others define them - to decide for themselves who they are. Ok want to be - are - one can argue either one.

@merkkar1

3 жыл бұрын

Do you genuinely think that Shrek 3 was Deeper than Shrek 4? REaLly?

Shrek 3 and 4 also play into stereotypes that Shrek being the dad is going to struggle with settling down and starting a family and Fiona being the mum is going to absolutely love it

@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333

Жыл бұрын

Well, the series is called “Shrek,” not Fiona…

It’s weird that In 2019 we have to pay someone for privacy.

@RtXyuFgjiDF2-6

4 жыл бұрын

Capitalism,everything is for sale including us and are surrounding.

@Douglas_Props

4 жыл бұрын

Maxime Brousseau.Berthiaume our*

@RtXyuFgjiDF2-6

4 жыл бұрын

@@Douglas_Props thank you for pointing out.

@jessemcdonald7791

4 жыл бұрын

You've always had to ensure your own privacy. How is paying someone else to ensure it, any different from building castle walls to keep people out of your business

@kaimagnus5760

4 жыл бұрын

You've always had to either secure your own privacy (usually by force) or pay another for the convenience of them securing your privacy. This goes as far back as the first taverns and inns where you'd pay the owner for the privilege of using one of their closed off rooms if you needed privacy.

Well, you chose a very specific interpretation of the first two movies. Some have argued that movies are about following 1: Shrek is afraid, of being loved. 2: Shrek is afraid, of being husband. 3: Shrek is afraid, of being a father 4: Shrek is afraid, of losing his identity In which case this is one of only series that actually has a meaning full story progression. (Arguably done later much better by Kung Fu panda)

"WHAT ARE YA DOING IN MY SWAMP" has been one one of my fav things from the whole series.

@samanjj

4 жыл бұрын

Lil Tank my favourite is ‘dead broad off the table’

@gamestation2690

4 жыл бұрын

@@samanjj Remember how the trailer censored "broad" to "girl"?

@samanjj

4 жыл бұрын

GameStation3 I avoid trailers but that is some tame language to censor LOL

Wish they would make more children's movies enjoyable for adults like Shrek

@Breidablik06

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, even if I’m only 13, I love movies with the more adult sense of humor

@rikgales123

4 жыл бұрын

Its realy hard to do

As we learn in Shrek 3D, Farquad is dead, but he came back as a ghost, then got super-killed by Dragon Fire.

Only a mere swampy onion layer of Shrek and his Quantum Swamp can be understood by the greatest minds known to humankind. #Shrek5TheFinalSwampdown

@GeriatricFan1963

4 жыл бұрын

WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY QUANTUM SWAMP???

I’m actually less interested in the video than wishing I had been in the room when someone at Wisecrack pitched this topic. “No no no, hear me out! The movie with the Smash Mouth song at the end and the dragon-donkey romance was actually really intellectually sophisticated. I’m serious!”

“IM MAKIN WAFFELS!” -Sir Donkus, The Brave (2001) 😢

@Nightmare77110

4 жыл бұрын

“WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY SWAMP!!?” Sir Shrekith, The Wise

I love Shrek 2! That I Need A Hero cover is amazing in it too

I liked Schiffrillas Productions' take on Shrek 4. It's more deep than Wisecrack gives it credit for.

@merkkar1

3 жыл бұрын

IKR!

My gut reaction from seeing the title was "neither, really."

*_Cory In The House might be one of the best anime series of all time, but Shrek is one of the best anime character to date._*

You mortals dare question our lord and saviour Shrek

ogres are like onions - Shrek

@BarrowBird

4 жыл бұрын

Oh shit, that's deep.

@gregoryfenn1462

4 жыл бұрын

Just like cakes 🍰

@HalftimeBackflip

4 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryfenn1462 no

@subscribefornoreason7390

4 жыл бұрын

Memes are like Shrek.

@littlepantherlp

4 жыл бұрын

They smell and make you cry?

As a husband and father of two, I think these four movies are a good representation of transitioning from a bachelors life to a family life, and the real apprehensions that accompany that.

Shrek 4 is more of comparison of an imperfect world, that all those wizard and villains weren't mentioned very much in earlier movie, and also it comes to that there isn't such thing as living socialized family in a much complicated world , they've their flaws and shrek the more becoming socialized the more he gets dumb, thinking with emotions not the type of the pragmatic shrek we saw in shrek 1 the one who bites with their teeth for survival so yeah shrek 4 showing how fucked up that life is

Shrek is deeper than ancient philosophy itself, it’s been around for ions and will be alive when we’re all gone.

@harveyharbicht4959

4 жыл бұрын

It's been around for electrically charged particles? lol Eons.

The real question isn't the canonicity of the karaoke dance party, it's whether or not Shrek's rap skills are canon. Answer: they are. That ogre... can RAP

“Is it deep or dumb?” Yes.

Someone *please* help me. Who were Gingy and Farquaad talking about in the first movie, when he was getting tortured? It seemed like a bad improv session. Farquaad: "Who's hiding them?" Gingy: "Do you know the Muffin Man?" Farquaad: *basically says yes* Gingy: " *She's* married to the Muffin man" They freak out. That's it. What is going on here???

@xebiie973

4 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Muffin_Man

Bonus Round: Shrek 4D. I'll see you at Universal Studios.

Suggestion: Philosophy of Cormac McCarthy (No Country for Old Men, The Road, The Sunset Limited)

@polyhaev

4 жыл бұрын

И обьяснить все через Достоевского, Набокова и Пелевина. Привет, Джаред

Agree with the first 3 labels but think the 4th movie is just as consistent as the first two. It’s a reversal. About someone who is going through a mid life crisis and wants a break, but screws up and is manipulated into a far worse situation. And while I agree it has issues, Shrek ultimately accepts his fate in the end, comes to terms with the fact he can never go back to the scary ogre he once was, and fully realizes that even if he could go back, he wouldn’t be happy. Like the first two movies, Shrek makes the choice to be himself, rather than force a reversal to who he once was. He’s not being asked to sacrifice the things that made him happy... he feels as though the responsibility and relationships he has acquired prevent him from being his version of ogre gives him most happiness. Shrek thinks he can only be happy if he is a “real” ogre... and the conflict is created by his perception of what it means to be a “real” ogre. In the first movie Shrek believed ogres were characterized as care free, intimidating, terrifying, loner, filthy creatures, who were beholden to no one. Throughout the course of this movie he learns that ogres can be many different things, including fiercely loyal, joyous, goal driven, with a seeming preference for group/familial ties. His change is perception of what it meant to be a “real” ogre showed me him that no one was asking him not to be happy... rather, his prejudice made him feel as though he betrayed his race and therefore he could not be happy. Once he accepted that he was still an ogre, he allowed himself to appreciate the life he had built with Fiona... all while embracing his true nature while rejecting societal expectations... but at the end of the day... this is a cartoon that makes my kids smile, laugh, and for the most part shows my daughter that being a helpless damsel is bullshit and to stand up for herself, and that’s all I need.

I wonder what fact I forgot in order to remember that Lord Farquad is actually alive that dragons belly

But more importantly, what did Dragon turn into in Shrek 2?? Donkey turns into a horse so Dragon must have turned into something. But they never say!

@RomanZolanski123

4 жыл бұрын

You’re on to something

Farquad was a ghost in shrek 4D, so probably not still alive "Oh but that's not canon" someone might say, but I retort: you cant prove he's still alive, so that's the best we got

You are the only YT that I actually try out the products on your ads.

I think "shrek forever after" continues the trend about the demystification of perfection that the first two movies set, this time in a deeper level since shrek is supposed to have achieved happiness after he and fiona have accepted their imperfection, but he faces the true that there is not perfect happiness, and happiness in real life is just a effimerous mental state that wears off against the reality. The lesson taught here is that the life must be accepted as it is, and happiness will come and go, as well as everything else in life.

If Shrek 4 was Shrek 3 then I think the whole trilogy would have been deep

I have a feeling a Crab loving ytp and animated movie reviewer would have strong feelings about this...

Shrek forever after is an EMOTIONAL MASTERPIECE

Lord Farquad's ghost appears in the old Universal Shrek 3D ride, so I think it's safe to assume he's dead.

*Sees title* Tread carefully wisecrack

I've seen enough skrek inspired vore fanfics to know that lord farquaad is still alive inside Dragon. You're welcome everybody.

@derekmensch3601

4 жыл бұрын

I hate you. I forgot vore existed till you said it

@drybonesmunchakoopas5143

4 жыл бұрын

@@derekmensch3601 i have no idea what vore is but by the sounds of it i dont wana find out

@derekmensch3601

4 жыл бұрын

@@drybonesmunchakoopas5143 you dont, trust me.

@laurensahanna5826

4 жыл бұрын

I could've gone my whole life without knowing that and I would've been just fine

@laurensahanna5826

4 жыл бұрын

@@drybonesmunchakoopas5143 I'm envious of your innocence

I rewatched Shrek 2 for the first time since I was a kid and it was HILARIOUS!! One of my favorite jokes was when Shrek, donkey and Puss in Boots are in far far away and apprehended by police and donkey yells “police brutality!”, while the other cops pull out what can only be a little baggie of weed from Puss’s pocket and he calmly says “I was holding that for a friend” and the whole thing was “shot”/animated like the reality show Cops which just made be bust the fuck out laughing. I just couldn’t believe how far over my head it went when I was a kid.

I love good ass analyzing that makes you think even for movies like these😤💕😤💕

Shrek Forever After is a film that deserves way more credit then it gets, as it shows an emotional side to Shrek, and tells us, that we should be grateful for lives we live, that we built. The villian Rumpelstiltskin is also hilarious, cunning and evil and is someone that constantly challenged Shrek through his cunning schemes, where the other villians in Shrek 1 & 2 were also fantastic they are more like antagonists, that only mentally challenge our heroes and move the overall plot forward. While Rumpelstiltskin not only moves the overall plot forward, he challenges Shrek on all fronts mentally, physically and emotionally. I fully understand the criticisms of the film that you ou ty lined, but dismissing this message of the film is dishonourable and superficial. The availed mentioned criticisms (in my opinion), don't effect the overall storyline.

Shrek is always balls deep

@TheInfiniteNine

4 жыл бұрын

It's his swamp now...

The video we’ve all been waiting for

After watching this video, I now know what I need: a Wisecrack Edition analysis of It's a Wonderful Life. Christmas is in 4 months, so time is running out. Good luck!

Still waiting for you to cover those Evangelion rebuilds there Jared

@strategicowl192

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe they are waiting for a time near the release or shortly after 3.0+1.0?

@daricoman9459

4 жыл бұрын

Strategic Magical Owl I’d be fine with that, and it would bring more attention to the rebuilds. I just can’t wait for 3.0+1.0 to be out already !!!

Shrek 5 is about lord Farquad finally getting out the dragon and taking over far far away

@nohrianscum9791

4 жыл бұрын

That's the Shrek 4D ride at Universal.

You guys nailed it

I actually love all 4 films. I only recently watched the 4th one after putting it off but it still had heart and was an enjoyable watch. But we all agree the first two are the strongest. Heck I liked Artie and Charming in the third film. Heck I just love Shrek!!

I never liked Shrek as a kid, I feel kinda guilty for being such a snobby 6 y/o

@MrFillzor

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair to your 6-year-old self, there's a lot of subtext you can only understand as an adult in these movies

@hunting4honeys

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrFillzor I always loved Pixar though, the jokes that were aimed at my age demographic I always thought were a smutty and low brow. As you say, when I was a boy I didn't have the subtext to balance it

@salmonsays1466

4 жыл бұрын

as you should

@MrFillzor

4 жыл бұрын

@@lemonwedge5209 Sure, but some jokes and other minor themes rely on pop culture references and other bits of knowledge that a child might not have So as OP himself mentioned, while he might've undertood the main theme of the movie, he wasn't really into the jokes aimed at his demographic Shrek's message, however, touches on themes that would not be as apparent to a child, such as the criticism towards Disney's fairy tales

Hey Wisecrak, could you make a Deep or Dumb video of Ergo Proxy anime, please?

Thank you for this video, I love Shrek so much and people almost never get it. Most thought of it as a simple childish movie. It feels good to have someone explain it in detail and calling it deep.

Finally an sponsor I actually want to use, thanks

hmm I would like to challenge the third and 4th shriek movies and your opinion, for the third shriek movie remember he did not want the power of the king thus seeking out a someone more suited to fit that narrative, the nephew who been already cultivated for that role by that same society , and since the society is undergoing a new change in both the way things were (lost of the fairy god mother) means the villains also part of that society, lost of directions and purpose in their own lives. Villains at this point could be a symbol of rejecting change. which Shrek himself did not want to be, a agent of change, but rather someone younger and more suited to fit that role for that kingdom. I agree the jokes seems to be played out consider 3 to me is still deep, Fairy tales always sell the hero to be the eventual ruler. but shriek still pulled a fart to that. And as for the 4th one shriek himself now is undergoing change (growing up) a mid life crisis if you will, he gotten everything he wanted symbolized and a loving wife, and family, no longer lonely but is rejecting that for the individual mindset he has those destroying what was being built everything he accepted to reject it in a old habit that didn't serve him in the new life . That was making around him, not accepting the very change that is happening around him, rejecting growth. Both films in my opinion are both narratives about change and growth and thus they are deep on that end at least for me .

2 Deep - 2 Dumb ... Perfectly balanced as all things should be *snap*

The pair on this team for even asking this question.

Mike Myers is amazing. Take that as the main theme of the whole series, and ... yes, your critique is exactly right; but Mike maintains the Awesome.

DEEP Like the Swaaamp

Don't you dare talk down on our savior: Shrek

The video I was watching before this, about a completely unrelated topic, had that exact same coyote clip... On another note, great video!

my god i luv this channel

You are very wrong about Shrek 4

@Amquacktador

4 жыл бұрын

How?

@ihate2danimationprofiles895

4 жыл бұрын

@Shirley Timple Butthurt Child 😂😂 I mean do I have to explain that a story having a Different Tone than the rest of the Series ıs a good thing Toy Story 4 Has a different Tone to The Series but Its Still a Good Movie And this is If the Movie Is Deep And Yeah It ıs Its Shreks Mıdlıfe Crises Its Litterly A Wonderful Life Inspired Story That you didnt Know What you Had Until ıt Was Gone A Plot Without a Story and 0nly Meaning Is Not a Good Movie But Shrek 4 Is a Story With Meaning Unlike the Third 0ne Where They Tried To Have A Meaning And Focused Too Much 0n "Hey Its Fairy Tales But With A Modern Tone" Its Also Alot Darker And Depressing But That Doesnt Mean ıts Doesnt Have Substance Like For Real This is The Same Channel That Pumps 0ut The Deeper Meanıng ın Rıck And Morty They Understand Philosophy But It Seems They Saw Shrek 4 As Just A Cash Grab And Rolled Wıth It They Also Dıdnt Explaın Much About Why ıts Not Deep 0nly That The Tone ıs Not The Same As 2 And 1 Just Because They Dıdnt Want To Follow The Same Formula Maybe You Should Re Watch It And Not Validate Your 0ppinions Based 0ff A KZread Deep 0r Dumb Vıdeo Also This KZread Channel Analyses Pop Culture And Movıes Alot 0f People Are Probably Children, Young Adults 0r Mıd 20s It Be Sad If You Were In Your Mıd 40s Gettıng Mad At A Kıds Stupıdıty 0f Havıng An 0ppınıon And Not Elaboratıng 0n ıt

Weird how the video is almost 18 minutes long but there are already comments when it has been posted 5 mins ago

@RtXyuFgjiDF2-6

4 жыл бұрын

Post without finishing the video it happen a lot.

i feel like you didnt give shrek forever after enough time, the arc that shrek goes through is really something special

“Get out of my swamp” Damn I felt that😢

Next up: Can we talk about the abomination that is Shrek the Musical?

Shrek is as deep as the Titanic.

The karaoke dance party is iconic

Bringing up shrek in the swamp karaoke dance party lit up some deeply forgotten part of my mind, and I thank you

Shrek Forever After is a masterpiece and everyone who says anything different is a fool

*I won't say I'm first even though I ain't :)*

0:36 You kidding? Rumpelstiltskin's commercial with Enya's "Sail Away" was one of the best parts of that movie.

"Adorno, eat your heart out." Priceless.