Congress should not get government retirement benefits. Let’s cut out all their benefits.

@danieljustdaniel9550

3 ай бұрын

Yes but we know that will never happen.

@user-mz3xg4kc5v

3 ай бұрын

ya!

@billharden7127

3 ай бұрын

👍

@YDD76

3 ай бұрын

That was my first thought 👍

@toddlong8778

3 ай бұрын

They have their own kind of benefits built in. They don't need it so that's kinda moot. At the least they get to retire off bribes and inside trading.

CUT THE BENEFITS OF CONGRESS!!!

@danieljustdaniel9550

3 ай бұрын

I worked on the Hill for 20 years. That will never happen. Remember at times when the people didn't get a raise, but they vote themselves a raise.

@lilitincher4973

3 ай бұрын

And make it retroactive! Go back at least 30 years!

@jilesbo9175

3 ай бұрын

Cut ALL government Pensions paid for by the tax system including city state and federal government and throw them in the FICA Social Security and Medicare! And I mean EVERYONE Cops, Teachers, City Employees, State Police, FBI, Enlisted Military, Janitors Postal etc doesn't matter

@ecobasetech4558

3 ай бұрын

DEFUND the ATF!!!

@daninraleigh

3 ай бұрын

However, in the realm of reality, it won't fix the problem. The scale of numbers is so huge, you could tax all of them at 100% and the system would still go broke. Math is harsh.

My wife stayed at home and took care of the house and the family while I served the country as a U.S. Army soldier. I am now retired with a reduced income but we are okay since we have no debts, kids have finished college and have careers and spouses of their own. My wife has a Social Security spousal benefit which after taking Medicare deduction, amounts to $475.00 only per month. It’s not much considering the work she did to keep a nuclear family intact and successful.

@klayvonisme

3 ай бұрын

Bless you brother!

@user-zu5do6ri6r

3 ай бұрын

Fighting for the elites isn't serving the country.

@emmanuelalviola4112

3 ай бұрын

@@user-zu5do6ri6r I’ve always heard this excuse by those long-haired, useless and bad-smelling hippies in San Francisco when I was an Army Recruiter there in the late 80’s.

@Vydio

3 ай бұрын

If that work was so great why did you not pay into the system so she could collect on her own?

@cherylcarr3137

3 ай бұрын

The problem is she is getting $475.00a month without ever paying into it. I have friends who are getting $2,000.00 a month without ever paying into Social Security.

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3 ай бұрын

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3 ай бұрын

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3 ай бұрын

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3 ай бұрын

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3 ай бұрын

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CUT THE PORK FROM CONGRESS,NOT BENIFITS.

@debbabe2254

3 ай бұрын

#TaxTheRich

@nachotacobrandon7554

3 ай бұрын

​@@debbabe2254: they do pay. Everyone knows...it's the tax codes, that is the issue, finding all the loopholes. Thanks Congress. The rich, create jobs. When has a poor person, ever created jobs? Plus, the more the rich pay in taxes, they pass it down, to you & me. How about cutting all the millions of dollars given to foreign countries? How about cutting back from all the Dems Pork Projects? How about the millions of dollars going to Planned Parenthood, be stopped? How about the billions of dollars the Dems are wasting supporting foreign invaders?

@MonkeyMind69

3 ай бұрын

@@debbabe2254....I disagree. Everyone's "Fair-share" of income taxes is ZERO. Why? Because income taxes are people laboring for the government, under threat of punishment, if they don't turn over the "Fruits" of their labor. ...Now, take a moment to remember what sIavery is. First, we must also realize that citizens being taxed, while the gov continuously and gratuitously mismanages taxes, means that ALL taxation is unfair to the people. Second, IF taxes were to be managed properly, the means of taxation needs to be fair and equitable for all people, and not compelled through violence and punishment. While no system is perfect, the "Fair tax act of 2023" does a much better job at being fair than our current tax model. It basically gets rid of ALL taxes, except a single inclusive sales tax. It's fair because everyone has agency in how they spend their money, and people tend to spend according to their wealth. For instance, a Rich person buys a yacht, a middle class person buys a motorboat, a low income person buys a kayak, and a poor person buys a hatchet to carve a log into a canoe. Also, those who don't pay income taxes because they are criminals, or paid under the table, would now become part of the tax cycle just by buying things they normally would. Fair. _"A wise & frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, & _*_shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned."_* - Thomas Jefferson

@lindajohnson.

3 ай бұрын

Exactly, they stuff these bills with nonsense. 😢😢

@tonyn3227

3 ай бұрын

they love their pork, and will never cut it but they will cut ours].

Put Congress on social security instead of of congressional retirement.

@thaimassage23

3 ай бұрын

and the age needed to receive is 99

@marthamunion1500

3 ай бұрын

They stole our money and just took it. They had no intentions of paying it back but they are giving the so called illegals new comers everything. This country and its’s so called leaders make me sick! This country is not going to be around long the way it treats the citizens. Was this country ever what we thought? I think not!

@rhondaguerrero2869

3 ай бұрын

Great idea !!

@taroman7100

3 ай бұрын

Those noble rulers never refused a raise in even our darkest days.

@juliebarnett9812

2 ай бұрын

EXACTLY!!! 💯

How about NO benefits for immigrants who never worked or never worked in this country, here in CA any immigrants over 65 can receive American social security. My husband worked for the welfare dept 30 years .

@nancysmith2389

3 ай бұрын

Here in Indiana, a red state, there was a shortfall of 1 billion for FSSA. I can assure you that 99% of that did not go to immigrants.

@gregorylyon1004

3 ай бұрын

Then obviously your husband got a lifetime pension. So quit complaining

@gregorylyon1004

3 ай бұрын

It went to paying lifetime pensions

@JS-em1lq

3 ай бұрын

I don’t believe that.

@rosaliethomson805

2 ай бұрын

That is why Calif is 60 billion in debt.

The full retirement age is already much older than it should be. ...just because we are "living longer" (which is a lie), we are not living better at an earlier age. So at 60, we are no longer up to the competition for jobs, with all the energy that requires. THAT should be full retirement age 60! They just want us as slaves... and there are not enough jobs to keep us employed anyway. This evil cannot be allowed to pass.

@user-zu5do6ri6r

3 ай бұрын

We're already slaves. The government knows it can do whatever it wants. Let's be honest, It's not like you're gonna do anything about it.

@rosaliethomson805

2 ай бұрын

The retirement age was 65 when SS was started. The average age was 65. So, most people didn't get it. Get your facts straight.

@jeannettesilva4242

2 ай бұрын

WE ARE NOT LIVING LONGER! THE NUMBERS ARE SQUED BECOUSE KIDS 1 to 5 ARE SERVIVING AT A HIGHT RATE THAN BEFORE!

@kathleenkirchoff9223

2 күн бұрын

Even when we are more qualified and worked harder we are passed over in hiring if we switch jobs in our 60s.

Here’s an idea: force the government to replenish the billions of dollars they RAIDED from the Social Security Trust Fund so many years ago instead of spending hundreds of billions of dollars on “aid” (Money Laundering) to other countries!!! There should NEVER be “means testing” for Social Security Benefits. Those people were TAXED by Social Security during their working career just like everyone else. They should not be denied the fruits of their labor in retirement.

@johnnyretires

3 ай бұрын

😂 You are talking about the SS trust fund. The govt is currently paying those dollars to SS with interest. Haven’t you heard that the SS trust fund will run out of Money in 10 years? Well that’s because the govt is paying it back

@kennylavay8492

3 ай бұрын

How about some (means testing) for the elected officials.

@RedEyeC

3 ай бұрын

@@johnnyretires- US government paying back?? You gotta be kidding! A snowball in Hell has a better chance than US government repaying. If Congress would make simple changes to SS - it wouldn't run short by 2033. Like significantly raising the minimum amount that SS can take in contributions from the present $168k to at least $250K.

@joeo7693

3 ай бұрын

@@johnnyretires I think you misunderstand the Trust Fund. The Social Security trust funds hold money not needed in the current year to pay benefits and administrative costs and, by law, invest it in special Treasury bonds that are guaranteed by the U.S. Government. It is the extra OASDI tax collected because more money comes in then is paid out. As Baby Boomers retire, that will flip to needing to pay out more than comes in. Hence, "a reduction in benefits". The money which was "raided" is long gone.

@loulopez554

3 ай бұрын

Exactly!

Social Security is our money not the Governments when are they going to learn this.

@erutherford

3 ай бұрын

The money never has been ours is the real problem. All the money was to pay for someone else's retirement OR for the government to use with an "I-O-U" left in it's place. The rubber hits the road when "someone else's" money is scarce ... all in time for my retirement -- if I get one that is.

@dm613

3 ай бұрын

@@erutherford That's right... the money we put in goes to pay for our parent's generation. The money our children put in will go for us. That is one part of the problem. Fewer people means less money collected, but more people needing it since we're the tail end of the baby boomer generation. Think on this; our children will be paying for the retirees who chose not to have children. It is not a retirement program!

@bg5215

3 ай бұрын

Yup. Sadly, you are wrong. The people above are correct. It is not your money. That is the problem with the whole program. It is a legal Ponzi scheme.

@annkrull9894

3 ай бұрын

Not true you get back 5 to 10 times more than you ever paid in to SS

@jeromeburdine966

3 ай бұрын

When we teach them. We need to stop paying taxes in the millions!!!

If you work a manual labor job your body is completely broken by the time you get to today's retirement age

@deannemckee5081

Ай бұрын

Yep. I work with men that do heavy maintenance on very large machinery - so that the rest of the country can be warm in the winter. Their shoulders, elbows, wrists and knees are worn out. We have several that are over 60 still working, but they are stoved up. My dad did road construction - red hair and fair skin - working outside in Arizona on the hot asphalt. He retired at 59 1/2 - as soon as he could draw on his retirement money, but Melanoma got him. People with email/desk jobs making these decisions, have no idea (or appreciation) for those that do manual work for a living.

My mom and dad both passed away before they could even collect social security. What happened to all the money for anyone not even living long enough to collect!!

@DoctorSmartyPants

Ай бұрын

It all goes into one giant pot.

@mjblue84

Ай бұрын

Good question!!!!!!!

The government forced me to pay into this system for years, now they don't want me to ever collect. I want a refund.

@user-vb3te3gd2v

3 ай бұрын

With a 29.99% interest just like credit card banks.

@jonwwillis

3 ай бұрын

It has always been a bad deal.

@chrisnorcutt9060

3 ай бұрын

Do You Understand The Difference of A Spouse and A Employee , Your Not A Spouse Your An Employee You Paid Into The System , You Are Not A Spouse Drawing Off Your Husband’s Benefits 👍🙏

@jonwwillis

3 ай бұрын

@@chrisnorcutt9060 do you understand that Social Security was created in a time where there were much less dual working families? If the Employee can earn enough for his/her spouse to maintain the household then why should there be no considerations for the "safety net" for the spouse?

@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm

3 ай бұрын

Be careful what you wish for. They might give you an early death instead of any refund. Try working in thr Medicare system.

Have the government repay all the money they stole from Social Security and Medicare instead of sending it overseas.

@660Oliver

3 ай бұрын

The only way they can do that is tax you in other ways.

@jefferykeith4527

3 ай бұрын

or giving to all of these illegals

@willv5158

3 ай бұрын

@@660Oliver Well, actually if they took some of the billions they send to other countries they would be able to do it without taxing you more.

@samfrancisco8095

3 ай бұрын

I'm the 75th thumbs up. Agree.

@Emmy-J

3 ай бұрын

What about the billions they are spending on supporting all the other countries poor that are coming here?

Back in 1982, Ronald Reagan stripped the social security benefits from children who lost a parent. My father died when I was a young teenager and if it hadn’t been for some quick thinking by my high school counselors who put me in college immediately, I would have been in high school with no income or way to support myself. God bless school counselors !

I'm an 81year old woman. I just fully retired this past Jun 2023. I didn't take SS benefits until I was 70. But I didn't have to work a high impact job or even mediam impact job, so it was OK for me. I concerned about women that are domestics, laborers, people on their feet alot, etc. Having to work past 65 could put lots of folks on medical welfare. They really need to leave it alone! And they had better not start dishing out SS or welfare to illegal migrants! It could start a war if the Dems do such a thing! The people that waited and immigrated legally are going to be mighty mad with us!!

As a wife and mother who made HOMEMAKING my CAREER, may I remind you AND Congress that, "They also serve who only stand and wait."!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make no mistake. A woman who chooses to serve her husband and children in a Biblical and traditional role, WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Even IF she doesn't homeschool her children as I did. Try getting ANY of the services she provides for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because we choose to contribute to our husbands, family, and society as we do, we should not then be deprived of our share of his income. Government is there to SUPPORT the nuclear family, NOT DESTROY it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@andykeno4051

3 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@Rich-lu6pd if she stayed home and raised her children that also end up working and contributing to our economy instead of going on welfare we should be thankful for these mothers and they should be rewarded wholeheartedly I worked 51 years and just retired damn right my wife deserves a portion.!

@ada-yw1bb

3 ай бұрын

While I admire mothers and homemakers, I've always had a problem with a spouse that never put into the system getting a benefit along with the person that earned the benefit getting one too . All while my benefit is at risk of getting cut after paying in for 45 years because the system is stressed . People can have several spouses, ex spouses, and children ( up to 24 if in school ) getting paid off that one benefit. One benefit should equal one payee only . And sorry, but if you've never paid in, you shouldn't get a check before someone that has .

@ada-yw1bb

3 ай бұрын

​@@andykeno4051: Yes.... a portion of YOUR benefit, not a portion of mine . One benefit should equal one payee .

@olerocker3470

3 ай бұрын

@@ada-yw1bb how did the system get stressed? (Jeopardy Theme) What is the Federal Government...

@jimmymcgill6778

3 ай бұрын

As a homemaker, you and never paid into it. Why should you get anything?

Social Security IS NOT a benefit, the money I get is the money I put in. Somewhere in time that seems to have been forgotten.

@rosaliethomson805

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. And if you don't put it in, you can't get it out. Medicare is gone in 3/4 years.

@sheilasullivan1950

3 ай бұрын

No, the new buzz word and excuse to steal our money is...Entitlement. So we are not Entitled to our own money back at retirement because these aggregious politicians have stolen it all!! NOT AN ENTITLEMENT. It is OUR MONEY we were forced to pay aka savings for when we retired. Not socialism. Nothing secure with these thieves running congress. SHAME ON ALL OF THEM

@traybern

3 ай бұрын

YOU have FORGOTTEN that a BIG CHUNK of “your” benefit is from people who DIED early. SS is an ANNUITY!!!

@user-zu5do6ri6r

3 ай бұрын

It's definitely a benefit. The money you put in was given to the people who retired when you were working. Now you believe you have the right to steal from the working people, when you retire.

@sylviamaresca8852

3 ай бұрын

Congress also takes out from SS for other things than leaves an IOU note. Stop that,SS will be fine

With the amount of taxes one pays into social security over a course of 40 to 50 years, there's certainly NO NEED to raise the full retirement age; what we should be focusing on is a) eliminating those that have been on welfare handouts for decades ; b) eliminating generational welfare c) eliminate wasted government funds spent on paying someone to DO NOTHING or pay for destructive behavior d) eliminate all handouts to foreign governments and e) eliminating PORK programs that are far outside of the original intent of what a federal government should be about. Efforts should be made to put ALL men and women of working age that are able - to work and let them contribute instead of being LEECHES upon the rest of taxpayers. Money should not be stolen to forgive debts, bank bailouts, business or industry bailouts, but that money should be earmarked for those that certainly have contributed and worked for decades and been FORCED to contribute; not the LEECHES, no matter the level.. It is amazing that we always hear about not enough money to pay for Social Security, when working taxpayers have paid into the system for DECADES, but we NEVER hear about shortages of funding for HANDOUT programs for generational welfare, food stamps, housing assistance, and even aid destined for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.. Hmm. Maybe Congress's focus is WRONG ; 12.5 %, when you consider both the employed and the employers contribution, over a course of 40 + years, and if there's any group that is entitled to benefits, it's those that have been FORCED to contribute..

@towritemichelle210

3 ай бұрын

All the things you suggested already exist. Do your homework

@kam2162

3 ай бұрын

Any chance that you would like to run for Congress? We could certainly use some common sense there!

@user-zu5do6ri6r

3 ай бұрын

Social security is a welfare for the retired. It's not a savings account with your name on it.

@johnnyretires

12 күн бұрын

You clearly don’t realize that SS is a separate system from the general revenue fund.

@kathleenkirchoff9223

2 күн бұрын

We should be able to at least get our money back but teachers with tiny TRS checks are not allowed to get their Ss from all their side jobs. And I still have pay SS at the job I work to supplement my teacher retirement check. Insane.

I turned 60 this year and recently lost my husband to cancer. The government said i don't qualify for spousal benefits because I make more than $10.22 per hour! Now since I have to pay my mortgage payment and all the rest of the bills on my income alone, I am barely scraping by. Would have been nice to get even a small amount of help.

@patriciayohn6136

2 ай бұрын

Were you and your Husband legally married for more than 10 years? You should be able to receive Survivors benefits, if your Husband worked for years.

@dcg590

2 ай бұрын

Where are your kids? I’m sorry for your loss but it’s not everyone else’s problem

@Ventura2FloridaGulf

2 ай бұрын

You get survivors benefits but there’s a cap depending if you still work; so it will be based on your annual wage/salary

@BlessedBeMyDay

2 ай бұрын

@@Ventura2FloridaGulfbut it should be something shouldn't it. She said she was told $0 zippo . That doesn't sound right . Maybe she said husband but actually just lived together for years . I don't know how that works. I wonder if my sister does after 25 years together and now in 70s.

@tamaraanderson749

2 ай бұрын

At age 60 you are 7 years from your FRA (full retirement age) which means your benefit amout is greatly reduced and will would be for your lifetime. It would never increase except for COLA's. There is also an earnings cap when you collect benefits before FRA. It's likely that your income negates any benefit you could receive.

My wife would quickly starve after spending years raising our children. I could focus on business because of her! She deserves it as much as me.

@willywonka69xx

3 ай бұрын

I agree she should be able to get survivor benefits...but that is IT...and only if you choose to take a lower amount each month so she can get it if you pass.

@rosaliethomson805

3 ай бұрын

Then you should have paid her so that she could pay in. Again, you can't count. The system cannot pay out more than it gets especially now that there are less people paying in. You are double dipping. I worked and raised 3 kids and I bought second hand and I saved money. Your wife had an easy time of it and now wants what I paid in.

@JL-kf8mw

3 ай бұрын

@@rosaliethomson805That isn’t double dipping. Is math that hard for you?

@ReneeDeane

3 ай бұрын

@@JL-kf8mw It is, she never paid into it. And he didn't pay double for her.

@justjoanish

3 ай бұрын

And that's why you will share your social security benefit with her just as you shared your income with her in your working years. That doesn't mean that the taxpayers now have to pay her because she made your life easier during your career.

Why do we ALWAYS find money for every other loser country? 😡😡😡

@tommytomhan

3 ай бұрын

Because by law SS has to pay for itself. That money We are sending overseas is just more money printed and hurting all of us. SS has so far always paid for itself. However, it needs fixing.

@Simsane

3 ай бұрын

You do realize this proposal is by a Republican Study Committee, right? The Democrats would never do this. The Dems want to raise the income cutoff or even get rid of it all together which would definitely put SS not only in the black, it would keep it running smoothly well into the future. But that's typical for the R's as they only care about the wealthy.

@KAZHE63

3 ай бұрын

@@tommytomhanbull crud! They STEAL from it! You are justifying this bs!

@tommytomhan

3 ай бұрын

​@tracy2895 they do not steal from it. Money has been borrowed and we get paid interest. As we have needed the money to pay benefits it is returned to us but this fund is running out in 10 years and the SS tax will only be able to pay 75 percent of benefits. Please do research this and stop listening to the nuts online saying our money was stolen.

@ellsworthwhitehead2703

3 ай бұрын

kickbacks for the politicians backpockets!

I agree, my wife has her own account, but if a wife is at home taking care of the kids while the man is supporting the entire family, and he dies, she should have the right to his benefits cause it was a team effort, this is the reason government tries to split up families. 😊

@jeannettesilva4242

2 ай бұрын

MOST POPLE ARE NOT REFERING TO THE SPOUSL BENIFIT THAY ARE REFERING TO THYE EXWIFE BENIFIT THAT SEAYS IF YOU WERE MEREIED TO SOME ONE FORE 10 YEARS AND 50% OF THE EXSPOUSE BENIFIT IS HIGHT YOU GET THAT IN STED OF YOURS!

@dcg590

2 ай бұрын

Nope.

@jeannettesilva4242

2 ай бұрын

THE WIFE BENIFIT IS FINE WITH ME. IT IS THE BENIFIT THAT YOU CAN GET IF YOU WERE A EX SPOUS MERIED AT LEST 10 YEARS THAT NEED TO GO!

@DoctorSmartyPants

Ай бұрын

Those are survivor benefits. The topic here is spousal benefits.

The people who paid into the system should be the beneficiaries of the programs! Not people who don’t pay into the program! My husband and I have worked since we were teenagers,now that we are retired the program is being changed! I want the money I have paid into the system! I’m sure most want their money back!

I support balancing our budget!!!! Not by cutting SS, but cutting out the pork in the federal budget.

@wheelofcheese100

3 ай бұрын

Stop making an excellent point. 😁

@stizelswik3694

3 ай бұрын

I SECOND YOUR VOTE!!!

@johnc2438

3 ай бұрын

One person's "pork" is another person's "lean meat."

@sandman7849

3 ай бұрын

The problem is that entitlements are 70 percent of the Federal budget. Even if they cut out the 30 percent that's not entitlements, the budget would still run a deficit.

@user-ff4lr2jj5r

3 ай бұрын

There goes about half the military budget...

Raising the full retirement age means that many blue collar, manual labor workers or dangerous occupations will die before they ever receive much.If any. The people making these proposals never worked in a factory, mine, or drilling platform. Simply changing professions isn't practical for someone late in life, and and age discrimination is very real.

@heathermichael3987

3 ай бұрын

My dad did . Lost his hand to that factory. And died in that factory he made it longer then anyone he worked with for 30 years .

@DynamicBailey

3 ай бұрын

And that is their plan. They don’t actually want to have to pay out that money. The longer you wait to get that money, the less time you have to collect. It’s all a scam.

@cindysmith6509

3 ай бұрын

​@@DynamicBaileyExactly !

@josephinevu2101

3 ай бұрын

thats what they want

@sheilaharrison6509

3 ай бұрын

YES@@josephinevu2101

When I was hired for my first job at 16 years old I filled out a W4 form and viewed it as a mutual contract between me and my government. Now that I've held up my part of the obligation they want to change the agreement or may default completely because of their inability to run the business?! Sounds like a class action lawsuit for unfair business practices and breach of contract to me.

No way! I just started collecting! My Husband played into it for many years! I stayed home to take care and raise the kids and worked in our home for 35 years!

@willywonka69xx

3 ай бұрын

Why do you deserve a dime...your husband yes, but you?

@dd-uy5lx

2 ай бұрын

@@willywonka69xx I can answer for her, if they filed joint if marriage is the stationary state in the USA, she deserves all the money her husband paid into it. When your spouse dies, you get everything don't you (expect a will) ? What's the difference now? Why do the government keep the money that was paid into it by her husband? is that theft? As your husband died, the government says half the house is ours now, and we decided to sell it. If you want your arrogant way, that's fine too, that's means if your wife dies, you get nothing from her, state or her parents step in and say, why do you get it? see in a union of marriage is community property. Who hurt you son? what woman gave you a bad idea about life?

@willywonka69xx

2 ай бұрын

@dd-uy5lx I have been super consistent, if the husband dies, the wife gets survivor benefits. It is when the Wife gets half the husband's benefits, while the husband lives and is collecting benefits, is the bad thing. No other pension operates like this.

@dd-uy5lx

2 ай бұрын

@@willywonka69xx what you think we are talking about? its survivor benefits not when he is living. you ok dude? If the husband dies she gets it, this can't be hard.

@willywonka69xx

2 ай бұрын

@dd-uy5lx Lots of people are seeking spousal benefits if the husband lives. Also, it should be like any other pension: You want the survivor to have money then you need to set that up...which means leas money for the survivor.

The only reason they're doing this is because they wasted, spent, and gave away all of money We paid into social security.

@scottgebow6539

3 ай бұрын

Especially billions wasted on Ukraine.

@aolvaar8792

3 ай бұрын

????? $1.2 Trillion/year is unsustainable at current fill rate of the SSA trust fund.

@howardfriedman7077

3 ай бұрын

The money is still in the trust fund.

@willywonka69xx

3 ай бұрын

No...non-working spouses never paid into the system and therefore never their fair share.

@midtennprepper6200

3 ай бұрын

@@willywonka69xx Most non working women I know work as hard as their husbands. Keeping-house washing clothes. Cooking dinner taking care of the kids. Yeah, those women are deserving. And entitled to their husband's social security over anyone else?

$85,000 hasn’t been “high income” since 1980.

@CharChar876

3 ай бұрын

Yes, I laughed at that part.

@lewisroadstudio9270

3 ай бұрын

And, they have proportionally paid more into the system.

@carolj.3175

3 ай бұрын

Still would be twice what I earn as a housekeeper, but I recognize I'm low income. Yet they said I earned too much for spousal support when my husband died.

@commonsense6967

3 ай бұрын

@@carolj.3175Medicaid and SSI are means-tested, not SS benefits. You must be talking about SSI?

@nighthawk-vf7ke

3 ай бұрын

Considering 85k as high income is crazy. If we continue to send money overseas to help finance wars that are not our own, allow & support all these illegals into the country that pay no tax, and elect old men out of touch to lead this country, we’re all going to work until death.

The sad thing is that my parents passed away before they could get SSA benefits. Because my sister and I were over 18 we couldn’t get any the money our parents involuntarily paid in over their lifetime. It’s total bullshit and should be illegal.

@tmo4330

3 ай бұрын

You are on your own when you turn 18. Go to work like most of us did. I was on my own at 17. The money we pay in is used immediately to pay those who are on SS. That money is not sitting around drawing interest for you or your family.

@BackyardBeeKeepingNuevo

10 күн бұрын

@@tmo4330 I started working at 12 in my father’s side business. I’m not some lazy Millennial or Gen Z. I’m a Gen X with 45 years of work experience. Don’t lecture me about work. I’ve swept floors and cleaned outhouses to pay for college and also worked in the trades. I’ve come a long way from those days and have paid into the system that is broke and needs a complete overhaul just like the Libtards who give it all away and waste it on foreign wars not of our making.

Benefits were already cut in The Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015 - leaving divorced elderly women who supported wealthy husbands and were tossed aside impoverished in their old age. No one talks about it.

@patriciayohn6136

2 ай бұрын

Were you and your divorced spouse legally married more than ten years? Is the divorced spouse still living? If not have you checked with SSA about Survivors benefits?

@KD-ug4jp

2 ай бұрын

Yep - that's the one. It used to be a benefit, as of 2015 it is not.

@dcg590

2 ай бұрын

Guess these woman shouldn’t have leeches

Before any changes are made, there needs to be rules AGAINST congress from borrowing money from the ssa! More importantly that NEEDS TO STOP NOW!!!

@cindymartinez6512

3 ай бұрын

Boy you are so right ❤

@howardfriedman7077

3 ай бұрын

chuck: Why? That is how the SSA earns interest on the money in the trust fund.

@AgathaWhispers

3 ай бұрын

The money was not borrowed - it never existed outside of accounting tricks.

@howardfriedman7077

3 ай бұрын

@@AgathaWhispers So where did the money from our paychecks go? What about the money from our employers? I'm pretty sure that money existed.

@joevarga5982

3 ай бұрын

Congress doesn't care what you want.

My husband was bedridden for 4 years! He was my job 24/7 in diapers!!! I had to bathe him, trim his hair and nails, everything in bed. By the time he died my neck down to legs were so messed up and still are. It took two months for me to get his spouse benefits and by then my credit was destroyed!!! Thank God for my pantry or I would have starved to death!!!

@heathervandewalle8954

3 ай бұрын

I am sorry things were so tough for you. Yes, things certainly are not fair.

@davidgenie-ci5zl

3 ай бұрын

How much did you pay into SS?

@ani1344

3 ай бұрын

@@davidgenie-ci5zl her free labor kept her spouse from having to go to a nursing home. I’m sure the value of that far exceeds whatever she collected in spousal benefits during that time.

@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm

3 ай бұрын

I can't say what I want to say about you lady. Your poor husband and you complain about what you went through.

@BautistaSealy

3 ай бұрын

Sorry that things were not too fair for you. But you need to have a financial advisor like Linda Sue Baier, who will help and guide you on how to survive in this bad economy.

I think the government should stop taking social security money to use in other things, coupled with eliminating non-citizens from getting anything.

@steventeter3332

2 ай бұрын

Non Citizens and people who are not athorized to work legally in our country have not been able to collect social security since 1996.

Cut congress’ salary, take away any pension benefits, take away their medical benefits, take away all secret service after a person is no longer working in government. They make me sick.

They need to leave SS alone and never be allowed to use it for anything but SS benefits. Then get rid of all the programs that siphon off of it and all the folks who never put into it.

@howardfriedman7077

3 ай бұрын

SS funds have never been used for anything else.

@willywonka69xx

3 ай бұрын

@@howardfriedman7077 Not true...people get social security who never paid the proper time and money in.

@thaimassage23

3 ай бұрын

@@howardfriedman7077 I think there giving it ALL away to other countries for humanitarian aid.

@user-vy7iw4lf5o

3 ай бұрын

SS has been raided twice. So yes the money has been used for other than SS.

@Exxeron-ob3tv

3 ай бұрын

@@howardfriedman7077 Learn to read a little more.

Next they will raise the minimum age until you are dead. Fire every one of these politician thieves.

If high earners won't get social security, then they shouldn't have to contribute to it while they are working.

@karolynann4106

2 ай бұрын

Exactly, they should be able to save the money instead for their own families, etc.

What about the women who stayed home to raise the children!!! I stay home & raised my 4 children!!

@dd-uy5lx

2 ай бұрын

you dont raise kids at 60 or 70. get to work, you think they care?

@rhondaguerrero2869

2 ай бұрын

@@dd-uy5lx I am still raising one in high school -

@dcg590

2 ай бұрын

What about you? You think you deserve money someone else earned because you had kids? No. You don’t get handouts because you raised kids. How entitled can you be to think you deserve money that gets deducted from someone else’s paycheck? You don’t. You chose to stay home. That means, your choice has consequences. And one of them is, you did NOT PUT MONEY FOR YOUR OLD AGE. That was YOUR decision. You don’t get freebies for what you chose to do because now it’s hard.

@dd-uy5lx

2 ай бұрын

@@dcg590 oh you are a little weird i guess. what aboutism with your mind lives great. What about kids from other people. No one told you to marry her then kid. Grow up, and be a man. No one forced you to marry a woman. Sorry, but you have consequences for your decisions. Its a free country. why marry if you are so worried. When you have 4 kids from you husband, you better get his death benefits, but you both decided. What is free kid? its paid into a system, you are acting like its free. Someone paid into it, but you are not allowed to collect. Must be an insurance agent philosophy. Pay but never collect. gtfo

@rhondaguerrero2869

2 ай бұрын

@@dcg590 Crazy much ??? Handed outs? I stayed home & raised 4 kids & NEVER had a hand out ! My husband supported me, & we wanted to raise our own children. I was a military wife for YEARS? Did u do the military? I bet not !

SS should not be mean tested. If you pay into the system, you should be entitled to receive the full amount you are expected regardless of your financial status.

@larryspiller6633

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Self employed people would really get screwed as they pay their own and employers "Contribution"'. They don't means test these people when they start hijacking a portion of their check.

@erutherford

3 ай бұрын

It's too late to save SS as we know it. There's simply not enough people in the next generation that can work and pay enough taxes to keep things going. The funny thing is I would like to start drawing SS around the time the whole thing collapses so I'll be one of the first to pay my entire life, get to 68 or 70, and then wish that I had all the SS $ that I & my employer contributed for my own savings.

@edtaubeneck8662

3 ай бұрын

The amount of money I have paid in at age 61 I should be retired and living well, I’m guessing I won’t see a dime

@SpicyGramCracker

3 ай бұрын

Then it should be called a savings account, not ‘insurance’ against poverty in old age.

@timothykeith1367

3 ай бұрын

I will eventually contribute 55 years to SS, but my benefits are only calculated on the top 35 years. When a person has 35 years, I'd like future contributions to bump the smallest of my 35 contributions into a retirement plan similar to a Roth so that my 20 extra annual contribution would go back to me.

What about the women who stayed at home to raise her families children herself confident she will be covered with some help in her retirement. Raise the retirement age? Try working heavy construction when you are in your late 60's! Punish the workers for working hard and paying more into the program; the only reason I have a pretty good income is because I bust my ass everyday at work, outdoors, rain or shine! Don't steal from me what I should have coming because of my sacrifices and efforts!

@tomschmidt381

3 ай бұрын

It's not just construction, try staying in hi-tech once you hit 50 or 60.

@valerielhw

3 ай бұрын

Vote Democrat!

@July.4.1776

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@tomschmidt381…. I think the point they were making is that construction work is hard on your body. After 40 years of working on your feet.🤔

@tomschmidt381

3 ай бұрын

@@July.4.1776 I don't disagree, however there are other professions that are also negatively affected by raising the retirement age.

@marsha58

3 ай бұрын

They are giving it to our Newcomers.

Wife and I made a mistake in collecting Social Security. I started collecting at the max at 67. Wife at 63 early from the SS office convincing her to collect early. Our joint income is from Rent. If we had switched fica payments to her name she could now collect the max also. I have paid for 13 years without extra benefits. Now I have paid over $150,000 for nothing. SS is a very progressive taxing system.

@tmo4330

3 ай бұрын

Yes, and it is the only fair system we have. The more you pay in the more you get out.

@robertreznik9330

3 ай бұрын

@@tmo4330 The more you pay in the less you get for your contribution. It is fair if you like Socialism!

@tamaraanderson749

2 ай бұрын

She would never collect the max regardless of her income since she started collecting at 63.

@robertreznik9330

2 ай бұрын

@@tamaraanderson749 Wife is collecting on my SS. I worked at 3 jobs all my life to have rental income. She would now have her own SS at 100% from what she paid over 25 years rather than my half minus early collection. All though If she out lives me she will be collecting my 100% is spousal benefits are there.

@crystalline6214

Ай бұрын

Good for you That is Your opinion That is your money.

Social security has been going out of business since I was 10. I hear this all the time, but gee it never happens.

@karmasutra4774

3 ай бұрын

They won't take it away for most that paid in. High income earners maybe they will change theirs .. but never had that issue , so I fully expect mine

When Congress is not in session they should not get paid. Same goes for the Senators.

@customerservice831

3 ай бұрын

And teachers too

@MountainManFred

3 ай бұрын

They should not get paid at all! They are volunteers

@Pje3ski

3 ай бұрын

Then Congress would always be in session.

If the government takes Social Security out of my paycheck, then they owe me Social Security benefits when I retire

@clarkfamily1500

3 ай бұрын

Agreed!! No means tests, no exceptions.

@vanguard6937

3 ай бұрын

And that is the exact mentality on why it will crash and burn for everybody. Social security is a straight up Ponzi scheme. It should have never been allowed in the first place

@aolvaar8792

3 ай бұрын

@@clarkfamily1500 90, 32, 15% the "bend points" of PIA (a) 90 percent of the first $1,174 of his/her average indexed monthly earnings, plus (b) 32 percent of his/her average indexed monthly earnings over $1,174 and through $7,078, plus (c) 15 percent of his/her average indexed monthly earnings over $7,078. This is how it is calculated; poor people get a larger amount.

@gregorylyon1004

3 ай бұрын

Let's just get rid of it. I've paid in for 30 years myself

Thank you David! I am one of those people also, that would be greatly affected and suffer by this change in SS Spousal Benefits.

There are some jobs that just can't be physically done by a person over 65. They don't have the strength or stamina anymore. It's find to keep on working if you don't have any cognitive impairments until 70 (research proves everyone has some memory issues at that age) and work sitting at a desk but a 67 year old person usually can't lift and carry 50 lbs anymore.

I propuse that every federal government employee start paying into SS. No free medical for Congress, no free retirement. How about we vote on this? Make America smart again.

@KAZHE63

3 ай бұрын

If they are under FERS, they do pay in to SS. My spouse also pays in to his retirement annuity. And there is no free medical care- we will be forced on to Medicare at 65 just like everyone else.

@edolinaoconnor4365

3 ай бұрын

@@KAZHE63 yes I know but not all members of government fall under that category. If I remember it correctly it was only the postal employees that Regan brought under FERS

@ETjim

3 ай бұрын

Every federal employee hired after 1987 is in the FERS retirement program, paying into SS. It is not free, neither is the FEHB health insurance program.

@edolinaoconnor4365

3 ай бұрын

@@ETjim does that include Congress, the Supreme Court?

@KAZHE63

3 ай бұрын

@@edolinaoconnor4365incorrect- my spouse is DOD civilian and he is under FERS.

Before any cuts to SS are made, the congressional salaries must be reigned in and all the lobbyist funds need to be slashed. These guys do not represent common people, only the very wealthy.

Is there a way to fight this? Also, The American people need to vote on rather Congress gets raises. They should not be able to make this decision for themselves. No employer allows their employees to give themselves raises when ever they want and how much they want. It's time to remind Congress who they are working for.

Do not support means testing for SS benefits. Taking away spousal support is also unfair as in many cases the spouse enabled the primary income maker the ability to earn as they took care of the household and family. They are already doing means testing for Medicare. If a person has an income higher than a certain amount, they make them pay more for Medicare every month. Plus people are having to paying tax on the SS itself every year. Higher earners are paying more tax on their SS also so in effect are getting less.

@rosaliethomson805

3 ай бұрын

Yes. I can't sell a house. It will cost mean additional $10,000.00 per year. So, I keep them.

When you first mentioned that the government would stop paying Social Security to “high earners”, I assumed Americans who made at least $250,000 or more. But a salary of $85,000 per year is NOT a “high income”, it’s middle class! And in expensive states like California, New York, and Illinois, $85,000 is actually a fairly low salary because those states are so expensive to live in and $85,000 per year doesn’t go very far! Some in Congress hate the middle class and want us to disappear! 😳😠

@darkstar7999

3 ай бұрын

It isn't because you are middle class. They want you to disappear because then they don't have to pay you anything.

@fran2205631

3 ай бұрын

My argument as well. California's cost of living is so high, 85,000 would be middle class not high income. Someone who made that amount would barely make ends meet.

@vivavita3769

3 ай бұрын

These ppl PAID into ss so they should get benefits. This isn't WELFARE.

@3Dhyana

3 ай бұрын

Geeze, my income is $40,000. Guess that makes me a peon. It would be wonderful to make $85,000. I did come close to that as a child protection SW with a masters degree. What wrong with this picture?

@merlie1254

3 ай бұрын

I was just thinking about that since we live here in Cali. $85K is not big. When my husband retired, SS said he will get $1900/mo but when they found out there are other retirement money coming, they slashed it by 33%. Full retirement? Well most of the people will just start taking it at 62 so it shouldn’t matter much. I worked so I get my own SS from my contributions. My kids are putting more money in their retirements because SS is very grim to look at. Maybe the govt should pay back the money they took from SS so that the people contributed will have the money when they retire.

Cut government bureaucracy by 50%

@gammayin3245

3 ай бұрын

That's so funny!! But it could be done - we truly do not need a congress.

@larrys4383

3 ай бұрын

How will that solve SS/Medicare shortages?

@commonsense6967

3 ай бұрын

Which is EXACTLY what Gov. Ron DeSantis promised to do if elected POTUS!❤

@commonsense6967

3 ай бұрын

@@larrys4383It will cut wasteful spending, resulting in less inflation, reducing deficits, etc.

@bobb7918

3 ай бұрын

@alphacharlietango969 I would love to see that since government jobs are now over 50% of the economy.

Shouldn't matter how much $ you make, should matter how much $ you contributed to the fund over your working years. Period! They want to phase it out, gotta be done in a different manner than what they propose.

All they need to do is raise the cap on how much you have to make before not having SS taken out of your check, then they would have enough money. Change it from $168,000 to something like $500,000.

@lisalaufenberg6002

3 ай бұрын

I agree, this would immediately add much money into the system. This would affect me, we reach the cap, but I would rather have the system be saved.

@user-zu5do6ri6r

3 ай бұрын

Or just stop stealing money from us to pay older people.

Absolutely not. How many employers will keep their employee on till there’s 69 years of age? Most employers expect and plan on you to retire somewhere between 62-65 years of age.

@M.Campbell

3 ай бұрын

In "right to work" states it's even worse. You can't be let go because of your age, but can be let go for no stated reason. Sure, without a reason they have to pay you unemployment, but that's no big deal for them. It's still cheaper to hire someone new who will get less money.

@judyshepard1425

3 ай бұрын

My husband is 71 still working full time driving truck for truss delivery. Also, only took ss age 70.

@justcruisinmom1682

3 ай бұрын

@@judyshepard1425 It’s insane have you all looked into retirement in Thailand? It’s extremely affordable to live there look up on KZread my daughter is all over Thailand right now and is in shock wants to move there. Or at least go there a lot. But she is a flight attendant and flies free. We are considering in 3 years hopefully. Florida has gotten too insane on the property, insurance and taxes and vehicle insurance total those three together and we can afford to live off a rental by the beach in a nice condominium there. And when I say it’s affordable I mean you can eat dinner for a dollar to $1.80. Rents range anywhere from well depending on what you want but from my perspective from $300 to 800 a month for a one bedroom.

@doughaven-rf8id

3 ай бұрын

I fully retired at 70. The company I worked at is working hard to push older workers out the door. They can not discriminate against age but they use other ways to make you want to quit.

@jr-nh2hn

3 ай бұрын

Most employers want the older workers because they actually work and are on time

No means testing. You paid in, you earned it!

@danamarie8718

3 ай бұрын

I agree. But unfortunately there is already means testing in the program. The bend points, when applied to Average Indexed Monthly Income, to determine Primary Insurance Amount, results in massive redistribution of benefits. Ditto for spousal benefits, child benefits, and disability benefits. If you paid in at the lowest income level (even if because you only worked part time), you could receive more than you made while working. Add a spouse, or a couple of ex-spouses and that number could be in excess of 200% of what you earned while working. Compare that to a higher income worker, who paid in the maximum for 35+ years with no spouse, and they will only get 25% AIME credit. That is not 25% of what they earned while working. It is much less because the 25% is only applied to the amounts that were taxed for social security. The “bend points” are 90%, 32%, and 15%, applied to different income levels. I wish these videos would point that out, or at least mention it.

No, the full retirement age should not be increased. Let's reduce the elected officials salaries instead! They should be ashamed of themselves for raising their salaries while adding to the work years of average citizens who do real work instead of the busy work they engage in, in my opinion! Also, if they had never taken the social security from our checks and left planning for our retirement to us where it belonged, then they wouldn't have to bother with paying us anything for retirement. My husband and I would be independently wealthy if we had received the social security taken from our checks over our working life instead of the government taking it and giving it to those who should not receive a dime; illegal immigrants, those who never worked and contributed, etc, in my opinion! So sick of, in my opinion, thieves in high places!

I've always had an issue with "spouse benefits" in the first place - if they DID NOT PAY IN and they are not HANDICAPPED, WHY do they get benefits at all?

I'm an over the road truck driver getting in about 2 years. My body is wearing out from the tough job. 69 would mean I work until I die. Congress and the Senate should lose their social security benefits. They get a great retirement pension already after 1 term served.

@KAZHE63

3 ай бұрын

Great point! I thought they only come here to contribute and work hard??

Do I think the retirement age should be increased. Hell NO!! In my former life before retirement, I was an electrician and can tell you in no uncertain terms that I was completely done by age 65. If Medicare would have been available before age 65 then I would have taken retirement at that age it was available. Millions of Americans do not work in an air conditioned office environment but do in fact help support those conditions for others and work very hard physically and can just go at this for just so long.

@rosemarieroth1984

3 ай бұрын

You made a good point which surely Some Congressional members can understand. If we stopped supporting "uprisings". or wars on foreign soil then we Would NOT be wondering how to give every eligible American citizen what has been a way to stay out of poverty, a way to live in the home you paid off, and free medical care and nursing home or at-home help. But common sense seldom reigns in Congress. Pandering to wealthy donors does pay.

@LittleMsBig2001

3 ай бұрын

@@rosemarieroth1984 Great Post !

@jodyporter6086

3 ай бұрын

My husband was in the military from the age of 16. After 34 years his body was giving out. He had a heart attack while using up his leave before going on the retirement rolls. Which shows even the soldiers can’t get away from the job for a standard leave allotment. War and living in the woods for training for 2 months at a time in the cold just wears a body and mind out. Fat cats in Washington need to live in our world.

@TheLehrmom

3 ай бұрын

Same here. I have been praying to make it to 65 to get Medicare just in hopes of getting decent health care. My body is shot from years of retail labor. I have to take my SS early and figure out how I am going to live on $1000 a month. My spouse gets $2100. Our mortgage is almost 2000. So without spousal benefits , how would I live? I think we should get our benefits and our spouses until we die. I spent my prime years raising my family, then caretaking elderly parents. I swear I wish the politicians had to live like this and then see what would happen.

@myvenusheeler

3 ай бұрын

@@omi_god "IF" Everything is right for you financially. I know several retirees that simply could not retire until at least Medicare age 65 due simply to the cost of health insurance and I am not even talking about some sub optimal ACA "Bronze Plan".

I totally agree! Well said.

Yes full retirement age should be increased but a better solution would be to eliminate the earnings cap for SS tax.... in other words if you make 500k a year all of that would be eligible for the SS tax. NO MEANS TESTING !!!

@willywonka69xx

3 ай бұрын

I don't agree with paying taxes on social security in a never ending way. How is that fair? The top amount paid will not change. What you propose is just another tax.

removing spousal benefits is another road to continual break up of the family dynamic. its a real job raising children. it is best for one parent to be home (this is proven to be true by studies in psych depts.) having one parent available each and every day creates a settled life environment for a developing child, their sense of security, safety and parental needs. govt has been destroying healthy structure of complete families for decades. having both parents working has left a latch key society from the 70's on and look where it got us. the education system is in shambles due to politics instead of the basic education academics. very sickening to watch helplessly our beautiful country implode due to rotten politicians.

@davidgenie-ci5zl

3 ай бұрын

Ok, then have the working spouse pay double SS tax to cover the non working spouses premiums for SS. If you aint paying in, tough, no benefits for you.

@heatherhill6051

3 ай бұрын

I agree with you. Homemaking is a beautiful thing. I work outside the home, but I absolutely think all these stay at home moms should receive social security. A good mother who stays at home and does a good job caring for children does a great service to society.

@scotts1356

3 ай бұрын

Excellent comment and right on the money.

@davidgenie-ci5zl

3 ай бұрын

@@heatherhill6051 If the stay at home mom wants to stay at home, that is fine, BUT she should be required to pay into social security if she is to get retirement benefits. By the way, stay at home mom usually retire early, well before the SS retirement age, kids move out and she is in effect retired early So she doesnt even work till the SS retirement age. Stop free loading. Heck you already get child tax credits. Disgusting hoe entitled you want to be. No free ride for you.

@sallypage7505

3 ай бұрын

Ss shouldn't be changed again for any reason.

I paid into social security my whole life and so did my employer for me. I deserve to get the benefits due me. Do not means test social security. If the government would have let me put all that money into a 401K I would have plenty of money for retirement. More than what social security pays.

@MountainManFred

3 ай бұрын

How 'bout "means testing" the migrant $$$..

@williampapadopoulos8145

3 ай бұрын

DOGGONE STRAIGHT!!!! OASDI GOUGED MY PAYCHECKS FOR 40 years+! I could have put that money into a 401K as well instead of DISTRIBUTING to everyone else who didn’t make as much money!!! MY PORTION OF SSDI SHOULD NEVER BE DIMINISHED!!!

@doggiemama

3 ай бұрын

I am 59 and have been working hard my entire life. They should have let me invest myself, I am being penalized for working and the money I put in goes to someone else. This is ridiculous!!! I planned to work until 70, just to be sure I have enough to live and pay my bills. What a crock of 💩!!

@chiplangowski3298

3 ай бұрын

Jim, you are absolutely correct. I analyzed my retirement portfolio a few years back with my finance guy and determined that even though I have paid similar amounts into SS/Medicare and into my 401k, my 401k will provide a monthly retirement check that is 3 times what my monthly Social Security benefit will be at FRA.

@aolvaar8792

3 ай бұрын

@@chiplangowski3298 You have to include survivor and disability insurance, imagine your 23 and you get your arms eaten off in a woodchipper, or you die leaving a wife a kids.

Everyone please let your Senators know there should be no SS means testings or cut to spousal benefits.

Raising retirement age to 70 probably is unavoidable. If high income earners cannot get the amount remotely commensurate to their contributions, the contribution should be made to be flat rate for all contributors, and everybody gets the same payout.

@dd-uy5lx

2 ай бұрын

society will start a collapse trust me. who is going to higher 60 year old anywhere? lets be honest

Just give me back the money that I paid into the system plus interest.

@Michael-Joseph123

3 ай бұрын

You get it back in around 5 years, around 3 1/2 years if you wife never worked and gets the spousal benifit.

@nightsparrow8305

3 ай бұрын

@@Michael-Joseph123 Just because as a wife I didn't earn enough wages to get big SS doesn't mean I didn't work..

@larrys4383

3 ай бұрын

@stormtrooper6381I believe MJ123 was pointing out that the original poster would recoup, with interest, his contribution in a given period. Not sure if 5 years is accurate, but it’s not many more years for sure.

@lifeisgood9175

3 ай бұрын

@stormtrooper6381 The spouse getting 1/2 is actually not always the case. There are rules and tabulations. Because I filed at 62, it reduced my 1/2 of hubby's SS to LESS than my personal amount.

@Michael-Joseph123

3 ай бұрын

@lifeisgood9175 Even people who paid into it get their ss reduced if they take it at 62, if spouses who never paid into want 50% of what their spouses get, they have to wait until they reach full retirement age, just like the people who who worked and paid into it.

No, I don't support cutting benefits to spouses and children. How about stopping benefits to illegal aliens? Or educational grants to foreign students? As much money as we spend on foreign interests and citizens cut there.

@SandorVitez

3 ай бұрын

Again this is woke democracy to support illegals, a lot of them live better than us citizens without even working that's why demonicrats are popular among leaches they are parasites themselves

@user-zu5do6ri6r

3 ай бұрын

Too late for that. The government has already gone rogue.

@Vydio

3 ай бұрын

Now here is a valid point. I am not supportive of non-paying spouses collecting, but if they shouldn't be, neither should illegal aliens. I salute you, sir.

@KeiPalace

3 ай бұрын

there are no 'illegal' aliens, there are undocumented immigrants, they pay taxes too, more than the 1% who have gained their money off the backs of the workers

@KM-pm6qe

3 ай бұрын

What federal benefits are illegal aliens receiving? Serious question. Don’t forget they often pay into SS under false SSNs which means they will never be able to collect on it.

I was a widower at 31 with two children under the ages of 6 years of age. My husband's social security survivor benefits helped me to raise my children

This is so sad, so many have either forgotten or never knew WHY we have Social Security in the first place.

When my wife passed away 10 years ago, Social Security found that I indeed "qualified" for the $250. death benefit the same amount that has been given since Social Security started in 1935 when $250. was a generous sum of money. I must tell you that the money felt like more of an insult than a benefit.

@willywonka69xx

3 ай бұрын

Well you could have given it back or donated the money if was an insult.

@nadiahope1175

3 ай бұрын

@wonka... Yes indeed, on every thread tbere has to be a smartass... You take the trophy😵

@timalan7406

2 ай бұрын

@@willywonka69xx It's an insult; what the hell are you going to get for $250? With inflation, that would be $5,662 today. Just end that benefit all together.

@willywonka69xx

2 ай бұрын

@timalan7406 I would argue some money exceeds no money. What is an insult is folks collecting social security that have not paid their time or money in. Another insult is people getting disability when they can still work. A final insult is people asking for more and more, the system taxing more and more, and the people who pay the most never see half of their fees returned.

@nadiahope1175

2 ай бұрын

@@willywonka69xx l do totally agree with that! Now you're not talking like a smart-ass!

Why don’t they put the $2.9 trillion back into the retirement fund that the government stole that would help a lot

@MonkeyMind69

3 ай бұрын

Congress is to busy giving themselves money by funding their own (and friends) side-companies and non-profits by "earmarking" billions of dollars into the Bills they pass. See *_"BREAKING NEWS: Rand Paul Calls Out The Top Ten 'Worst' Earmarks In Government Budget"_* ...and you'll understand better.

@aolvaar8792

3 ай бұрын

every week an IOU is taken from the SSA trust fund $2.7T and REDEEMED. $100MM/month. $100MM/month>>> $1.2T/yr causing lack of money

@thaimassage23

3 ай бұрын

It's way more than $2.9 trillion.

@steventeter3332

2 ай бұрын

Dont forget about the Savings and loan crisis in the 80's 1.24 trillion and god knows how much taxpayer $$ they absconded with in the 20007-08 subpime morgage mess

I’ve been paying into my SS for 45 years. I’m 7-8 years away from collecting my promised benefits. It’s too late to build another.

No one talks about raising the cap to help solve this problem. It always cut it from the ones who need it most, unbelievable!

Yet we’re paying billions for illegals to live here for free. That’s shelter, food, clothing, medical and education. Free!!! And then WE are paying the debts of students who willingly took out loans to go to universities. Many of whom will be making over $100,000 a year. That or their rich parents’ debts will be or have been forgiven. And that’s for people making g up to $140k I believe. My husband and I are making $60k per year since he retired. Why the heck should we be paying for everyone else? We’re doing okay but what about women and men who have lost their spouses and were stay at home parents? I certainly wouldn’t be getting much if anything yet, so many who aren’t even citizens get everything for free while we foot the bill. This is disgusting. It’s no wonder people are leaving this country.

@larrys4383

3 ай бұрын

What does your comment have to do with SS and Medicare?

@DynamicBailey

3 ай бұрын

@@larrys4383Read it again. If you don’t get it, you won’t get it.

@natashatomlinson4548

3 ай бұрын

More conservaturd nonsense smh…. When people like you finally start taking seriously the REAL freeloaders on the government dole then sane people like me will start taking seriously the small players you bring up . The fact that you really don’t know who the real freeloaders are tells me all I need to know about how much seriously anyone should take your opinion . The REAL freeloaders are corporate America and the 1-2% who own well over half of the wealth of the country- yet magically were given a 2 TRILLION dollar tax break in Dec 2017 . These people make the people you get so worked up about look like saints .

@expendable6595

3 ай бұрын

Call the Texas Governor. Illegals shipped for free allowed to stay in the U.S., instead of being arrested and sent back to where they came from. A sh**t load of them not just a few.

@incognitotorpedo42

3 ай бұрын

We aren't paying for "illegals to live here for free". Nobody making a hundred grand a year (much less 140k!) is getting their student loans paid for. Where do you get this stuff?

I'm 63 years old turning 64 this year, I'm working my a s s off with osteoarthritis, pushing myself to the brink of exhaustion, to get up and go to work as a long term substitute teacher. I've been paying into this broken system through tax deductions from my paycheck for the past 40 years. It isn't fair. No I do NOT support raising the retirement age, neither do I support needs based pay outs. If the government took that money out of our checks all these years, we are entitled to our fair share. Maybe if they'd quit handing out stimulus checks to people less than a third our age playing the disability scam, too lazy to work, the gov't could take that money and funnel it back in to social security for working senior citizens.

@Rose-ht3xc

3 ай бұрын

I agree 100% mcneillmama! My granddaughters "other Grandma" is in her early 80's and still working as a custodian in a factory full time! She's had some health scares and stays working for the insurance and to make ends meet...This is so wrong! Our elderly have put in their time-they should be able to reap the rewards of what they paid in! All this free money for "illegals", disability scammers, and every other country but our own is ridiculous! Our elderly and our Vets need to come first!

1. The retirement age has already been slowly raised to about 67. 69 is ridiculous on their part 2. Social security has never been a “welfare” program in our eyes. Changing it to such will only lead to more polarization on the topic 3. Eliminating spousal benefits for ANYONE is crazy. Spouses may not receive income for year but can be vital parts of our society taking care of kids and family members

The larger issue is WHY do we continue to cap income for SS deductions to stop for working Americans. Some solutions are so simple, yet so far from Congress and the Senate.

@danamarie8718

3 ай бұрын

Do you know what bend points are? Do you know that at the upper limit people only get 15 cents on the dollar credit, whereas at the lower income level people get 90 cents on the dollar? Should we just remove the cap, collect on a higher amount, and not give people any credit at all for amounts paid in above the current cap?

If the house wants to help the budget then reduce thier salaries by 50%.

No because if you worked and the govt deducted the money you should receive what’s yours. Just because someone did better than another, you still paid into the system.

@aolvaar8792

3 ай бұрын

Do you understand 90% bend point? Poor workers get SSA that is not their money.

@user-zu5do6ri6r

3 ай бұрын

You allowed the government to use everything you put in. There is $0 in an account with your name on it.

@aolvaar8792

3 ай бұрын

@@user-zu5do6ri6r I have a government pension, 12.5%/12.5% contribution, BUT The retirement is based on best 36 month run in the last 10 years, NOT on contributions. You could work 27 years as a janitor and the last 3 as a Dept. Head. I think of it as a membership fee.

For you younger people, 69 for retirement will mean guaranteed late life unemployment lasting till you either can claim SSA or your death which ever comes first. People in their early 60's are targeted by companies for either firings or layoffs due to age and lower productivity. I have seen this with family and friends when they hit 62. Companies really do not care about you, you are just a resource that is easily replaced. No, if anything retirement should be at 62. Living longer does NOT mean you can work longer. Even my friend who is still working at 65 just found out his body is failing without notice. Now he is facing forced retirement due to heath issues.

To pick on someone I happened to be a fan of - Someone of wealth like Rush Limbaugh's widow likely doesn't have to have and could learn to not expect a SS widow's benefit. The law needs to be made well in advance of the age group so retirement and estate planning can be done. So you'll know, I'm a lower income widow who had to wait working and juggling to make ends meet several years to be old enough to draw anything on behalf of my late husband who died suddenly at age 61. Those years were hard and I'd hate to see any widow surprised by not having the benefit at all. It surely helps.

This is crazy. My Son’s wife is a stay at home Mom, raising and home schooling their five kids, which is the hardest most important job in the world.

@ravenmeyer3740

3 ай бұрын

Why so many children? A problem they created. So, why tell us?

@cherylconklin3288

3 ай бұрын

Regardless of how many children she has, her husband has paid in! & I bet you those children turn out to be well adjusted, well educated, respectful members of society , as opposed to attending public schoo were they are now taught to be racist, are given the option to change their gender before reaching puberty, are lucky to learn the basics to be functioning adults !

@cherylconklin3288

3 ай бұрын

​@@ravenmeyer3740 Awfully judgemental , so don't listen if you feel that way

@natnielsen8472

3 ай бұрын

​@@ravenmeyer3740What! Every family that enjoys children and loves humanity should have as many children as they want.

@KAZHE63

3 ай бұрын

@@ravenmeyer3740who raised you to be like that?

Maybe someone else mentions this but social security money is our money not theirs, if the same amount was invested in a 401K for the same time as we pay SS before retirement everyone would be retiring with zero money concerns. Social Security may be broken but it is not nearly as broken as the ones running it!!

@sarsarsvintagejewelry

3 ай бұрын

They think it’s theirs. Taxation is theft

@rosaliethomson805

3 ай бұрын

You put in a million or more?

As the cuts happen for high incomes does that mean they will no longer have to pay those extra Medicare fees too?

Lifting the income cap on social security taxes basically solves the shortfall for the next 75 years. Simple, straightforward fix that is not complicated.

My late husband paid into this and it is rightfully mine now

@bootiegarcia6663

3 ай бұрын

Yes you got that right

@dd-uy5lx

2 ай бұрын

100 percent.

I get so upset saying that social security is given to retires. Why can't we sue the government for using social security money many years ago and causing lack of money.

@aolvaar8792

3 ай бұрын

STOP, every week an IOU is taken from the SSA trust fund $2.7T and REDEEMED. $100MM/month. $100MM/month>>> $1.2T/yr causing lack of money

@debiperkins

3 ай бұрын

Given my a$$. Wasn’t this our money to begin with. We have paid in for years. We went from , finally, 100k, and then he suffered from kidney failure. Dialysis for 8 years. Finally, retirement, and down to 60 with his retirement. It’s tight!! I’d be in trouble if the spousal stopped. I was a widow at 62.

@justme135

3 ай бұрын

Retirement should be 60 why work until ur so old you can't enjoy anything but medication

Raising the retirement age just in time for Gen X retirement. Nevermind I want a complete refund of all the money I have paid in, right now. I will invest it in a laundrymat and collect change until i day.

I am soon to be 85 years old. I live on less than $3000 a month. My husband died 4_years ago and I live on my retirement and his social security. I would not be able to make it without his SS. Thank God for my children. They paid off my mortgage or I'd be up the creek without a paddle.

Some jobs (maintenance workers for example) rely on a person to be physically able to bend, climb, stoop, and even crawl which becomes more difficult as we age. It shows the ignorance of these lawmakers as to what real jobs require.

@MonkeyMind69

3 ай бұрын

Whoa there! It's hard work getting paid over $150,000 a year to sit in a suit and pretend to care about one's constituents, while gratuitously taxing people's income to the extent that nearly half of what the average citizen makes is taken by the government ...While, also running this country into the ground with over 34 TRILLION dollars of debt as most congress members somehow manage to create profitable side-companies/ investments for themselves. The truth is "ignorance" has little to do with the decisions these politicians make, because that would insinuate that their failures are due to mental deficiency, when the reality is they are "succeeding" through acts of calculated maleficence. The only ignorance now belongs to those haven't awakened to the true reality of what govt has truely become.

I’m 71 and my husband is 76. I receive $935 a month, hubby receives $2,180 monthly. This is what we live off of. We are frugal but okay. My income reflects my leaving a very well paying job 12 years early in order to care for my ailing mother and my special needs grandson. I don’t regret my decision I-would do it again. We would not be okay if our benefits were reduced.

@sherryobar5750

3 ай бұрын

God bless you! And amen to what you said 💜

@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm

3 ай бұрын

I'm sorry for your situation. You planned using your heart and not your brain. Your fault; not mine or the Social Security system. I understand your pain but the solution giving you extra unearned benefits risks bankrupting the entire system earlier than necessary. We all make sacrifices for our family. Should everyone expect a bailout from goverment? Taxpayer dollars for YOUR personal Issues and decisions? I think not. Welfare maybe but not Social Security money. Differing sources of money.

@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm

3 ай бұрын

@@sherryobar5750 You send her a check monthly from out of your bleeding heart checkbook. Give her welfare if appropriate but not UNEARNED Social Security benefits under the spousal benefit label. What about poor single retirees? Where do they get the extra money they need or at least wan.

@windorsolarplease4314

3 ай бұрын

If they cut this for us, it will end up costing them more. Old people would end up on the streets, bills won't get paid, corporations won't like that. Normally you know what rolls down hill, well sometimes it can roll up hill. Adult children won't be able to care for their parents, they are struggling now as well, and they won't like what they see. There are so many other ways to balance things, but they think this is the easiest way.

@Wren4009

3 ай бұрын

SS is already more generous to lower income workers. $85,000 is a middle class income in many states and a single person is already taxed a lot more on their higher incomes. Why are higher income workers being punished for bettering themselves and working hard to earn more money? Average people with higher incomes are already paying more taxes and more into SS and getting back less % wise. Plus, they face higher Medicare premiums too.

I feel better listening. I definitely am not in the high income. I need my spousal benefit.

The retirement age was raised from 65 to 67 during Republican Ronald Reagan. That was a 13% cut in social security earnings.

@PipersCreek

3 ай бұрын

Correct, the democrats were controlling the senate and house. Reagan should have vetoed it.

The 2030s shortfall has been predicted for darn near my entire working life. Rather than make minor adjustments over time, they continue to kick this can down the road. All the while, adding new pet programs without being good stewards of the programs already in place. This is going to end badly, and GenX will suffer while younger generations will be squeezed to make up for lost time and resources. Unacceptable by any measure of management skill. Why do we allow this ineptitude?

@longkesh1971

3 ай бұрын

Put Department of Defense in charge of it and the money would magically appear overnight. I don't know why we can keep paying almost a Trillion dollars a year and still can't defeat the Taliban. Corruption is out of control in America.

@502Chevy

3 ай бұрын

There isn’t, and hasn’t been, any person in the Congress that knows how to manage money. Want proof? $35 trillion in debt….

@natnielsen8472

3 ай бұрын

Darake they allow this ineptitude because they all know the government has changed. In the next few years everything will change. They're just ridin' the pony for now.

@Liam1694u

3 ай бұрын

They just need to fix the earnings cap loophole and social security is fixed forever, but they won't do it. A fixed system doesn't give them anything to run on in the next election cycle. That goes for both sides of the aisle. It's all just a game, and we the American people are the pawns.

I live in the state of Texas and am a retiree from the public education system. All my 26 years as a Teaching Assistant I did not pay into SS, but instead (had no choice) paid into the Texas TRS (Teacher Retirement System). I did also work more than 10 quarters outside the education world and paid into SS each paycheck. I retired at age 67 so I actually drew my SS earned for 2 years (age 65-67) while I was still working. My husband retired 5 months before me, so I also drew spousal benefits during those 5 months. Once I retired, because of the GPO, I lost all my spousal benefits and because of the WEP I lost 2/3 of my own SS benefits. During those 5 months my SS bank deposit (after Medicare withheld) was right under $1000 a month. After I retired, it dropped to $69 a month. Last year's large increase jumped it to a whopping $78. This system even now is so unfair to any who work in public education!!

@aolvaar8792

3 ай бұрын

My State you pay into SSA.

@Emma-of1oe

3 ай бұрын

I understand your pain. I too paid into social security and had 2/3 of it lost due to wep. So unfair. I worked all those years in the private sector. Teacher retirement check lower because of fewer years teaching which should have been made up by social security but nope. I lose 2/3 of it. It sucks. Took therapy to get over the injustice of it.

@g.t.richardson6311

3 ай бұрын

In my state pay into both fully so get both.

@rosaliethomson805

3 ай бұрын

You are so right. That is why I play the stock market, manage two rental properties. She will get money from me.

@briarcliffbabe

3 ай бұрын

Same for me in Missouri. Rip off.

Thank you

Working till 67 is already a torture, give me a break. I retired at age 65 when my FRA is 66.4 and happy of my decision.