I’m seeing a lot of fights and stuff in the comments over how this fight is lazy and stuff. Here’s my take on it: I think the boss is alright, he has a plethora of new moves and his attacks definitely seem way faster and so it’s basically like a endgame tuned version of the boss you fight in the base game, which I think was a cool boss anyways and so I don’t mind this fight. However, the requirements to unlock this fight is to S rank all 20 waves of the kairos gauntlet which I think is very tedious and way too difficult of a requirement in order to unlock this fight. Especially since there is no reward for doing this fight, this fight is done only for bragging rights. I think that either the requirements to unlock this fight should be easier, or that there should be some reward to compensate having to S rank all 20 waves. Also, of course when anything final fantasy is brought up recently, people are gonna compare it to ff7 rebirth. So here’s my take on that as well: I think that rebirth and ff16 are equally as good, it’s 50/50 for me because I do have a bias towards action rpg games. Some of my favorite games of all time which I’ve put the most playtime into after all are dark souls, elden ring, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Nioh, etc. and so I hold this game in high regards. I think rebirth has a bunch of things it does better than this game like sidequests and stuff, but also think this game has a bunch of things it does better than rebirth such as boss fights. Of course this is just my opinion but I’ve been seeing a lot of people who think that this game is a lazy hot piece of garbage and that if you even remotely like it, that you are just coping and that rebirth is so much better. Which I think is crazy lmao, people have their game preferences and some people may not like the party fighting based gameplay of rebirth and would prefer the solo fighting experience that ff16 gives. The combat of this game will either click with you well or it will not. And if the combat of this game doesn’t feel good to those people then obviously they might just click with rebirth a lot better. None of these games are objectively better than the other and so all the arguments going on over which is objectively better is just pointless and it’s unnecessary.
@HunterForHire422
Ай бұрын
Well said
@zerase84
Ай бұрын
Understand you come from action rpg genre, do try to understand from the point of jrpg as well. Rebirth and button mashing combat aside, all of the final fantasy main titles have a party system. Like if joshua, jill, cid, dion etc are permanent party members where you can equip items and skills for them and form a team. That is the soul of jrpg.
@DSTkunn
Ай бұрын
@zerase84 And with that in mind, you have to consider the fact that Yoshi P said he doesn't like to prescribe to the term JRPG because at the end of the day they are making RPGs. Having a party doesn't make it an rpg. It's the same song and dance whenever anyone tries something new with Final Fantasy, which is funny considering the point of each one is to tell their own story from each entry. The heart isn't the turn based or action, the party or solo exploration, it's the story and always has been. The gameplay is just the transportation for the journey.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
@@zerase84 well it was obvious they were trying to do something very different with ff16. They always advertised it as their first ever action rpg which is why I don’t get how people always try to compare this to previous titles. They are extremely different games so why some people take comparing these games so seriously I will never get. In my eyes FF16 is just a completely different vision of FF and the only similarities it has from previous FF titles is having the same summons, and keeping the iconic creatures such as chocobos.
@Bloodhurl67
Ай бұрын
The difficulty for achieving this fight is fine imo but having no reward after S ranking all circles is the dumbest shit.
@darryldavis6063Ай бұрын
This game has set my expectations high for future use of summons.
@BlagonАй бұрын
Considering that you can beat Kairos gate on normal mode, I think this secret fight should be unlocked just for beating it on Final Fantasy mode. Especially considering once you die, or get the S rank, you have to start all over again. I hated that about the brutal and legendary vr missions on rebirth.
@MixedMilk1
Ай бұрын
the difficulty for this mode is set, does not change depending on what difficulty you choose.
@barrib158
Ай бұрын
@@MixedMilk1 The description is confusing but this is not true, it just defaults to action-based (meaning if you enter on story or lower, it will be action-based difficulty) but if you enter on FF mode it is harder. You can see at the top of the screen that the difficulty is shown as Final Fantasy, and you can also see that Clive is level 80 and enemies are 85 which is not possible on action-based.
@deathryder420Ай бұрын
I think rewards that enhance limit break for you and torgul or an unlimited limit break accessory would be simple but cool rewards for this fight, a shadow clive and limit broken clive skin would be cool too as rewards
@Blastanker
Ай бұрын
We already have the berserker ring for that. Dodge once and you have free limit break for like 5 seconds, and you can dodge again for with no cooldown for it
@NeroV1L3
Ай бұрын
@@Blastanker They just meant an accessory that makes limit better
@darryldavis6063
Ай бұрын
I like the Torgal idea
@veritasaeterna
7 күн бұрын
@@NeroV1L3 more accessory slots, more eikons we can use in battle, i want 4 instead of 3, that woulda been nice, honestly i thought the game was great combat wise
@snarffles5687Ай бұрын
Not going to lie, I was hoping that this would be either Alexander or Gilgamesh
@radkesrealm
Ай бұрын
should have been gilgamesh or some classic ff staple
@Haseo55
Ай бұрын
I also thought it would be Gilgamesh mainly the new one.
@radkesrealm
Ай бұрын
@@Haseo55 I thought after playing ff7 rebirth, I hoped.
@chotho4718
Ай бұрын
It is surprising and disappointing that FFXVI doesn't have Gilgamesh, he has been in almost every popular final fantasy game. Medieval Gilgamesh would have an interesting design.
@alexandremonnot7024
Ай бұрын
Fight on the Big Bridge FFXVI would have been madness.
@untitleddragon7322Ай бұрын
The boss is cool, but a possessed Ultima Joshua would have been a better secret boss. Like a new moveset. I think that would be cool. Ultima was trying to take over joshuas body when joshua sealed him away.
@MarkATorres1989Ай бұрын
So that's the secret boss for the DLC. I was thinking it was either Gilgamesh or perhaps another crossover opponents like Garland or perhaps a hero from the previous games like Cloud or Squall. Something to make those S rank gains worth the effort and memorable.
@Vanquish010Ай бұрын
Damn didn't know there was a secret fight that is epic
@ProfessorHeavy1Ай бұрын
That final stagger was absolutely stunning. Love your gameplay.
@khiemnguyencao4324Ай бұрын
thanks for the valliant effort, stylish action gamer.
@xRoycex
15 күн бұрын
Hahaha RIGHT
@senpafl4405Ай бұрын
Now if the Scoring system wouldn't suck so hard, I would be absolutely happy with the game
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Very true, so many waves where I felt like “I got an S rank” but then an A rank appears instead then I had to reset the entire run. Having to S rank all 20 waves to unlock this fight was way too tedious, there should have been some leeway at least.
@radkesrealm
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 so its not s rank each collectively? it has to be 20 in a row? that seems impossible.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
@@radkesrealm yeah, all 20 waves S rank back to back and if you mess up once you have to restart all the way at wave 1 again and retry. It’s possible but time consuming, especially when you mess up on like wave 16 or something and then have to go all the way back to the beginning to do it again.
@radkesrealm
Ай бұрын
@safijivvaboi5081 I beat it last night, but I got all c rank (and 1 b and 1 a). I only focused on beating it, though.
@jqyhlmnp
Ай бұрын
@@radkesrealm same. I used all the ultimates to cancel out any attacks. Megaflare and that slow time ring to dodge. Ice glide and fire teleport and that ring that lets you press square to auto play everything. Then I focused only on hp and ability power . I’m so bad at the game that’s my only option :P
@nishuzumaki8559Ай бұрын
Question.. Why is there a different version of precision dodge and how do you activate your version in this video. I have been trying for a whil and my dodge only makes clive dodge to the left or right normally.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
The “berserker ring” makes it so your dodge becomes a slide and activates a mini limit break. In the main game it’s an accessory that you can get from spending that green currency I forgot the name of that you get from sidequests. And in the kairos gauntlet one of the boons you can buy is the “berserker ring” which will allow you to use it while in this gamemode.
@darkpromeathean937
Ай бұрын
Knowledge check 😅
@nishuzumaki8559
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 OMG i've beaten the entire game twice and nvr figured this out. Thank you so much for the info.
@Astreon123
Ай бұрын
Did you just not do any side content? This is on yourself@@nishuzumaki8559
@KingKabisiАй бұрын
I think after beating kairos gate we should be able to do the circles individually, theyve already not given us a boss rush mode and seeing how things are going now. The pc release is the only hope of us getting new content
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I would like to refight this guy again in case there’s some new moves he has which I didn’t get to see since I killed him too fast. But I do not want to go through the trouble of S ranking every single wave again just to fight him again.
@Kale13000Ай бұрын
Been waiting for this to be uploaded since I'm too lazy to get S ranks lol
@sakuradestrosАй бұрын
wow! great job I thought it would be a few more days before we got to see this
@ryanderry8873Ай бұрын
Awesome job man!
@DECAD00XАй бұрын
The music score was anabsolutely fantastic.
@justicealistair777412 күн бұрын
Still upset we didn’t get Shadow Clive’s move set. That Shifting Fira is so cool.
@dinorex346423 күн бұрын
Considering every single boss fight of Kairos Gate is pretty much a semi-primed Dominant, I find it fitting that the Shadow is the final boss, thematically too. Clive defeats himself yet again to prove to Ultima that he is his own person. Only, getting to S rank EVERY SINGLE CIRCLE is a bit too much. Just make this the default final boss if you clear the gate in Final Fantasy mode.
@xxivmelАй бұрын
how do you activate the berserker ring perk? what type of boon are you upgrading?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
There’s a boon you can buy that is just called “berserker ring” that activates it. You don’t have to upgrade anything to get it.
@QuetzalcoatlTKАй бұрын
I enjoyed this boss originally so I don’t mind it as much. But the requirements to get to it are way too high and it’s really not worth the effort unless you just really want to do it.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Agreed, the requirements should have been a bit easier or there should at least have been some type of reward.
@sharkattack-uq7biАй бұрын
Had a very urgent question how do people do that very cinematic precision dodge where it goes slow motion did I miss something 😭
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
The berserker ring accessory gives you this special precision dodge that activates mini limit break.
@sharkattack-uq7bi
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 omg thank you I been wondering this for so long😭
@samuelcalderon5525Ай бұрын
If you lose to the fight, do you have to s rank Kairos Gate again to rechallenge? Or can you just challenge him again?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
I didn’t fail to this guy so I’m not sure but I assume that you would have to redo the entire kairos gate again and S rank all the waves once again just going off of the premise of the gamemode and how it always resets you back to wave 1 if any fails happen. Which would be very sad indeed, good thing is that when you get to this guy you have accumulated so many buffs from the previous 20 waves and so I think it’s very difficult to die to this guy unless you get hit by his big one shot kill hellfire or something.
@samuelcalderon5525
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 that's most unfortunate. I'd rather just have an elemental, buffless attempt at him whenever I want. Seems like a cool boss just hate that it's hidden behind a cruel gauntlet of challenges
@darkpromeathean937Ай бұрын
Yo good stuff dude, I've platinumed DMC games, Ninja Gaiden. I've seen some fiendish stuff, but theres always someone better like you. I truly believe I dont understand the combo system enough to S rank every stage, however...I have completed kairos gate.
@GhostylikesАй бұрын
Can I ask what you're doing with the Shiva move by dodging into the boss?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
When you press shiva dodge twice you drop a ice shard that freezes enemies for about half a second. But that’s enough time to use rift slip which slows down time and then you can land free hits. If you perfect time a dodge with shiva then it freezes everything in an aoe for about 8-10 seconds.
@platterbuss2328Ай бұрын
Thanks for posting, im happy just watching it on youtube. Uf no amazing reward im just guno pass on it.
@shinobialchemistАй бұрын
Little disappointed we didn't get an Ifrit vs Shadow Ifrit rematch but what can you do?
@hailmerry6827Ай бұрын
Amazing gameplay you are a joy to watch pretty good at the game
@Lobomaru02Ай бұрын
What's that new sword and is it stronger than the Ultima Weapon?
@vargr7180
Ай бұрын
Yep and it's 750
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Yes it’s better than the ultima sword. 750 attack and stagger attack. You actually need ultima sword to even build this sword. You get the recipe to build this sword by completing the Kairos gauntlet once normally on final fantasy difficulty. It is worth noting that there is also the “tonberry knife+1” sword you can get from fighting the tonberry king boss in final fantasy difficulty and his sword has the most stagger attack in the game at 1000. Albeit, the raw attack is only like 500 or something I believe.
@vargr7180
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 exactly as you said
@elijaharroyo4846
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081do you just have to beat all of the circles normally, or do you have to get all S on all 10 circles to get the recipes?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
@@elijaharroyo4846 you just have to beat it normally as long as it’s final fantasy difficulty. My first run of this was a slog and I got C ranks on almost every circle except like 2 of them where I got an A rank. The S ranks is only if you want to fight this secret boss. Also there isn’t 10 circles, there’s 20 circles.
@igg7865Ай бұрын
why people even complaining about this, this is a secret fight to an extra piece of content that isn’t even the main focus of the dlc.
@Lemfern
Ай бұрын
mostly because there was announced a secret boss and they sold it as something special like "you wont know who he is"
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
I think the boss is fine but the requirements you need to do to even unlock this fight is very difficult for what it is. You have to S rank all 20 stages of the kairos gate which is very tedious to do since you have to reset the entire run if you get just a single A rank on one of the waves. If it was a bit easier to unlock this fight I would not mind at all.
@t.v.1201
Ай бұрын
because it's extreamly tedious for not only 0 reward, but a also for a boss you already fought in the main story.
@DarkRei7
Ай бұрын
everyone expected Gilgamesh
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Because you can't please ff fans
@kratos97261Ай бұрын
Whats that sword?
@Silverfang11Ай бұрын
danm so many comments and views nicely done
@woodstock3009Ай бұрын
Sickkk!!! A master indeed. Ggwp
@donovanbowman8157Ай бұрын
Wait there are no rewards for this fight.. like none? I like to 100% a game but no rewards is wild
@shacharco8797Ай бұрын
is this fight just shadow clive from the base game but harder?
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
Yea kinda lame at least the music is good
@JesseEVHАй бұрын
Damn super unique build love it
@katrinka745Ай бұрын
Qualcuno sa come sbloccare l'ultima spada del DLC. Perché mi manca un materiale ma non so dove trovarlo
@user-gm4cn5eu8w
Ай бұрын
This material can be obtained at the end of the Kairos Gate (not from the secret boss)
@xRoycex15 күн бұрын
I loved this game idc what anyone says. I do wish that Clive lived in like a clear happy-ever-after type of foolishness because I was sad when Torgal howled at the end but other than that it's a 10/10 for me.
@user-uk2cy6yj1kАй бұрын
Wait i unlocked original sin weapon and this boss never appeared for me???
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
This boss only appears when you S rank all 20 stages of kairos gate. You don’t need to get original sin.
@lankiestfella9797Ай бұрын
Is it true that you cant change accesories in kairos?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
You aren’t allowed to bring any accessories at all in the kairos gauntlet. You also can’t even bring in your own sword or armor.
@anthonytan8751Ай бұрын
Nice sword! What sword is that?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
You get this sword by completing kairos gate once normally on final fantasy difficulty. You use the ultima sword and a few other materials to upgrade it into this sword which is the new best sword in the game with 750 attack and stagger attack.
@24nero24Ай бұрын
Any new good/gamechanging gear in this dlc?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
The new leviathan and ultima eikons are extremely powerful and have a bunch of really powerful abilities. There’s also a new best sword in the game as well as new best armor.
@oneofthekindscarf8612
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 Don't forget the new accessories that upgrade or change the eikonic abilities
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
The accessories from the first dlc are pretty busted too
@Evanz111Ай бұрын
Amazing skills from you, but yeah a bit of a shame on the boss fight. I don’t think it’s lazy, but the cutscene dialogue preceding and following the fight definitely is.
@jonh4872Ай бұрын
How did you get to use Original Sin in Kairos? I'm stuck using the default Invictus model
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
It’s the appearance transform that you can do to weapons.
@Hayashi-_-GameАй бұрын
So... are we still having the same ending after all these hard work? 🤔
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Yes
@Hayashi-_-Game
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 damn it😂 thanks for telling me, so I don't have to try it myself. Nice work bro!
@GeoAlex1Ай бұрын
Which dlc is better? I wanna play both, but Echoes of the fallen seems kinda meh
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Rising tide is much larger and better. It also has side quests alongside a main campaign and also gives you 2 new Eikons unlike echoes of the fallen.
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081echos of the fallen has the best accessories though id get those asap
@House_of_GreenАй бұрын
DMC wasn’t silly enough to lock things behind the scoring system. They should’ve just did ultimaniac kairo for this.
@sodathejunkerАй бұрын
Honestly I’m just glad someone out there is capable of getting S Ranks in this mode. I’ve accepted it’s a pipe dream I’ll ever see one IRL.
@sodathejunker
Ай бұрын
That said, sick as this fight is I’m amazed that’s what they decided would be worth all that hard labor. I get not putting extreme dev time into something so difficult 0.0001% if the player base will ever see… but given this is the same team that devs an MMO and knows the insanity of FF players who will no-life content for the bragging rights, I’m just a teensy tiny bit underwhelmed.
@MrJIsBackАй бұрын
I was planning on skipping the combat gameplay just to watch the cutscenes. But then I ended up staying because I love Find the flame. And then I was kinda mesmerized by how much ass you kick lol, wtf are those crazy combos?! At least now I'm sure I aint getting to that secret boss
@gamingispleasure8436Ай бұрын
another boss when completing every stage on S? wtf I didnt knew that🤯🤯🤯
@optimaltt6070Ай бұрын
"HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON, OLD ME?" "I love embodying the weakness of the young people! :D"
@AkamehamehaАй бұрын
with how Yoshida teased this I expected a crossover secret boss like FFXIV / Gilgamesh or even Diabolos cuz he wants it so bad in FF16, disappointed to see chrome pack inner Clive fight for secret boss, at least I won't bother with this now
@abysspresence6820Ай бұрын
There is any reward?
@bryanlangit4631
Ай бұрын
nope just rhema
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, no. This fight is basically only for bragging rights I guess because you have to S rank all 20 waves of the kairos gauntlet to even unlock this fight. I do not think this fight was worth that grind, I think the fight is a fine boss but there should be a reward to compensate for having to S rank all the waves.
@bryanlangit4631
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 i thought the reward be like a powerful weapon or maybe we can change appearance as shadow clive lol
@inzone88
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 comletely agree. To not give a special reward, hell even a sword, is madness. And im not even gonna attempt to s rank it. Completing it on ff mode was all i wanted. Grats tho
@OmarO_72126 күн бұрын
They at least could have gave the Shadow Within a blue coloring
@elisodrakuliaАй бұрын
Holly F*uck!!! That was amazing!!! Ahh i wish i was that skilled, i get all frantic and lose hahahahaha, waw that was great, congratz :)
@merouanebelaroussi9706Ай бұрын
Did it give a reward ?? Like a sword or something
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
No sadly. You do get like a medal but it’s not an actual achievement so you don’t need to do this fight if you want to get all the trophies for this game. This fight is only done for bragging rights since you have to S rank all 20 waves of the kairos gauntlet to unlock it.
@BarnbootsnblossomsАй бұрын
What’s the floating ball do?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Prevents damage from being taken and does small amounts of damage to enemies near me. It’s useful so that you can basically do your combos without worry of being hit.
@salmark9080Ай бұрын
Is mesmerize actually good ? Not effective for me
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
It does good consistent stagger damage for how short it’s cooldown is and how much you can spam it but it’s best use is that it groups up enemies so you can easily do collateral abilities such as scarlet cyclone.. and when you are going for S ranks in these fights it is a MUST HAVE because its the most effective way to rack up score.
@salmark9080
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 ah that makes sense. Did you play around with dominion from ultima? Feels better but I’ll try it out
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
@@salmark9080 I felt like dominion missed with the 2nd hit too much and it didn’t feel that strong for the cast time needed.
@causalnutria7974Ай бұрын
Alguien la subio en español latino?
@hailakmal4683Ай бұрын
How the hell are you getting an S in every single challenges?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
You have to do combos and there’s a combo scale based on color. White color doesn’t give much points, blue gives a small amount of points, cyan gives a decent amount of points, green gives a bunch of points, and rainbow gives the most points. Obviously you want to use abilities that give green or rainbow combo and the best abilities for that include thunderstorm, any collateral abilities such as scarlet cyclone or upheaval and ice age, and then abilities to group up enemies allows for those collateral abilities to do even more work. You also don’t wanna use abilities like windup because those just do a bunch of damage and kill your targets. You don’t want to instantly vaporize the enemies because the longer the enemy is alive, the more combos you can do on them and build up more points.. but at the same time you don’t want to do too little damage because you gotta complete every wave within a 3 or so minute timeframe to get the level 3 time boost for the extra points.
@hailakmal4683
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 oh i see thx for the info!
@beatsbythestorm3428Ай бұрын
Okay- let’s all just be thankful that the platinum doesn’t require this. It’s cool… but damn is it a waste of time. It’s just so you can push the leaderboard a **little** farther. I had really hoped that it would have been a fight against Ramuh, but it definitely wasn’t... Glad I searched this, as of typing I just beat Kairos with a not-so-perfect, bottom scratching S. And I’ll gladly leave it at that. (At least for a long time.) (One of my top 3 games of all time btw, don’t get the wrong idea-)
@egil9859Ай бұрын
Clive vs Clive AGAIN. How original
@Mirage4492
Ай бұрын
@user-zs5oy2gt8g you're disappointed that a free and optional content Kairos Gate is not designed to your preference? Lmao
@Mirage4492
Ай бұрын
@user-zs5oy2gt8g wtf is shmuel? ur braindead
@vilvethopeАй бұрын
Bummer
@penutbuter2Ай бұрын
How are you level 80 I was only level 40 when I did this
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
This is ng+
@radinleytani4882Ай бұрын
I'm stupid I'm bought american version of dlc but I had wrong disk my money is gone 😢😢😢
@G-ManfromhalflifeАй бұрын
I kinda wished to fight Knights of the round but I ain't complainin
@PrimalDragon1740
Ай бұрын
Or Ultima Weapon
@shinrasenseishadow1575Ай бұрын
Dark Clive hum ? Would be way better to have gilgamesh instead. Even a near end journey gilgamesh to make him more serious/mature with all the previous main ff1/ff15 hero weapons. Or at least, to keep up with the teasing and fan service, some ff9 exclusive eikons like hades, ozma, or ARK would have been better
@marcus22greeneАй бұрын
Clive is the best boy no, CLIVE IS THE MAN!!!
@goldchampion200Ай бұрын
Instead of replying to people imma just leave this comment as a general statement. Anyone saying its the same fight again is certifiably high. Similar i'd give you but same is just plain ignorance.
@bluesrock1986
Ай бұрын
spoken like a true fanboy who would eat the shit right out of the devs asses
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
@@bluesrock1986womp fucking womp
@TranscientFelix
Ай бұрын
Not worth the effort regardless
@Crabo99
Ай бұрын
The problem is that they teased this secret boss as something new. People expected a whole new fight. I was disappointed as well.
@neobahumuth6Ай бұрын
tbf ppl mald over this but it's more or less what Bloody palace does so......eeeh? I don't get much of the complaints, it's definitively easier since you get buffs to use also. That said Bloody palace has the feature to allow you to test floors you've been in, which here is missing....would've been nice if that was possible.
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Unlike the DMC fanbase, ff is impossible to please
@Crabo99
Ай бұрын
Because the director/producer hyped the secret boss before release
@neobahumuth6
Ай бұрын
@@Crabo99 blame yourself for believing PR talk they are always exaggerated. Like when SEGA said that infinite wealth or Gaiden were a good entry point for the Like a dragon franchise. My ass they are
@Crabo99
Ай бұрын
@@neobahumuth6 no I dont blame myself lol, I blame them for saying that. People are right to be disappointed. Whole DLC is peak but they shouldnt have said that shit
@neobahumuth6
Ай бұрын
@@Crabo99 They are trying to sell you something, they won't be honest 100%.
@darkinfiniАй бұрын
well no reward at all :/
@udayveersingh7495Ай бұрын
This game is so good!!! Anyone who doesn't agree is just stuck in the old ways.
@PenguinsAreColdish
Ай бұрын
cope
@DekkarJr
Ай бұрын
It's a great lol - im thjinking about doing a second New Game + on hard haha
@shadownight9956
Ай бұрын
And tge old ways were gold unlike the plastic shits we have in present
@CloudStrife777FF
Ай бұрын
Good, but that's all, the combat sadly gets old fast.
@lllool8404
Ай бұрын
FF7 Rebirth is superior in almost every aspect.
@ARCEUS493ZELDAАй бұрын
to think that gilgamesh has been in every main series FF title in some capacity only to see him not appear in FF16..................... rather disappointing ngl
@andimari9194Ай бұрын
You know, ultima saying “are you not mythos?” Is actually super interesting. It’s as if at this moment he realizes Clive isn’t the one he’s looking for and is not a strong enough vessel. Sure he can hold all the eikons, but he’s not able to cast the spell that ultima needs. So basically ultima just gave a man all these powers to go and fight him, and whether he wins or loses, it will regardless lead to ultimas defeat
@oberon_relic1161
Ай бұрын
"Why will you not kneel?" His inability to control clive is what makes him question that
@oberon_relic1161
Ай бұрын
Clive literally has all the eikons power along with ultima's at the end of the game, he also does use the world changing spell just not how ultima wanted he instead used it to get rid of magic forever
@andimari9194
Ай бұрын
@@oberon_relic1161 but ain’t there a part at the end where Clive states something like “seems like ultima was wrong, this vessel isn’t strong enough”
@oberon_relic1161
Ай бұрын
@@andimari9194 he was meant to survive it but he still used the spell
@andimari9194
Ай бұрын
@@oberon_relic1161 ohhh okay yeah so ultima plan was to defeat Clive and use his vessel to cast the spell. Unbeknownst to ultima, he would have died casting the spell since the vessel wasn’t strong enough
@reverselol6910Ай бұрын
I beat the floors on new game plus 3 ff mode and they didn’t wanna give me this fight? Ridiculous 😂 still a great game tho
@Asupernaruto1Ай бұрын
impossible
@pulsevzeroАй бұрын
Wow I thought you just had to have a S rank by the end of a run not for all the damn circles. Well there goes my interest in fighting this boss. The scoring is so terrible imo. I feel like I did very good throughout my run and I was barely getting a rank B. Why is it so hyper focused on stalling it out with abilities instead of you know, playing good and beating the waves fast? I get not wanting people to just spam ult abilities but no reward for beating waves fast and efficiently makes no sense to me.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
You get a time bonus multiplier of 1.5x for completing the waves fast and you also get extra enhancement currency. The easiest way to get score is to do long combos on enemies while also using abilities like scarlet cyclone for collateral perks. You also basically have to buy the score up boons to get the S rank consistently.
@pulsevzero
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081I guess I just have to get used to playing a super specific way. Regardless the requirements are so extreme for a boss that is seemingly a push over and the fact that you can’t freely replay it.. This game desperately needs a boss rush imo.
@ultima_mello96Ай бұрын
How original lol
@yousufl6624Ай бұрын
This is their secret boss? They can't be serious.
@apocalypse9199
Ай бұрын
ikr would have been better if it had unlocked some more of ifrits kit like hellfire or hammer and anvil. Such a missed opportunity, would have made sense.
@mThund3R_
Ай бұрын
@@apocalypse9199 I think they didn't do that because it would be pretty dumb to spend money on something that cool and then lock it to like 99.5% of the playerbase. It would also probably make someone mad. But yeah, having those moves would be amazing.
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Ff fans complaining as usual
@yousufl6624
Ай бұрын
@@G-Manfromhalflife Yes, complaining for a valid reason. This isn't a "secret" boss. I wouldn't have said anything at all if the developers didn't advertise it as something to be excited about.
@TheFlipsideShow
Ай бұрын
@@apocalypse9199hellfire and hammer and anvil are already apart of Clive’s moveset. They’re the lunge attach and his slam move when you are in limit break.
@misscrimson3555Ай бұрын
Well that's a disappointing secret boss.
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Ff fans complaining as usual
@misscrimson3555
Ай бұрын
@@G-Manfromhalflife Dude listen, I love this game despite all it's problems. But you can't deny that this secret boss is disappointing as fuck.
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
@@misscrimson3555 eh
@misscrimson3555
Ай бұрын
@@G-Manfromhalflife If you like the boss, that's perfectly fine, but you can't deny that this could have been way better or hype. Especially with conditions as hard to fulfill to unlock it.
@shafeekabdool3466
Ай бұрын
Its trash @@G-Manfromhalflife
@drewpettersonАй бұрын
I believe im the only weirdo who enjoys more FFXVI than FF7 in general (rebirth included). I’ve tried many times to force myself to keep playing FF7 but yet it’s all mini-games and anything else. I can’t say FF7 is not the masterpiece that’s considered but I really cant see the big deal about it tbh. In the other hand, FFXVI is really enjoyable for me. The fight is way less restrictive than FF7 (idk about rebirth yet) and the story is more interesting. Clive is way superior than Cloud and rest of the cast of FF16 is more interesting than the cast of FFVII too. Is the game a masterpiece? Could have been but it truly lacks a lot of stuff that’s necessary to become one but it’s really close to it. And stop asking for a turn base FF, it’s been years since the last once and they like it like that. I myself really enjoy turn based FF as 2 of my 3 fav FF are like that (FFVI and Tactics A2) but it’s not necessary anymore. Having an open world either. FFXVI is a game that focuses a lot more in the narrative than anything else and it does a great job doing it!
@shafeekabdool3466
Ай бұрын
Clive better than cloud? There's not a word that can describe how brain dead u must be to think that.
@Astreon123
Ай бұрын
Dude rebirths and remakes combat is shit
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
@@shafeekabdool3466cloud is seeing things bro is a crazy person 😂 and Clive is a whiny a baby both are kinda annoying tbh
@BlueEye096Ай бұрын
Learning there is such an incredible boss fight locked behind such ridiculous conditions that probably not even 1% of the playerbase is ever gonna get to try is dumbfounding. I doubt even the majority of players who beat FF mode and get the Platinum are gonna be putting themselves through this, the Kairos gate is already difficulty enough and adding the ridiculous scoring system on top sucks ALL the fun out of this. I have to presume that while we're 100% not getting any more content for 16 that we get at least one or two more patches that aim to increase stability, FPS, fix any bugs and glitches which surely a bunch of new boss fights and two new Eikon power sets will have unleashed and while they're at it buff a few more abilities and remove this ridiculous condition, just clearing all 20 stages should be enough.
@MotherCerezaАй бұрын
I love FF16 so much but Kairos Gate ain’t it. I was never a fan of the arcade ultamaniac point amassing builds that you were forced to use in order to get decent scores. Now we have this. I am super picky about collecting everything in this game but this Kairos Gate ain’t it. It’s exactly as this creator said, tedious. I love the idea of a dungeon that goes back to back to back fights (giving costlemark tower vibes in FF15 if you know you know) but the SCORING SYSTEM! Just let me play the builds I want to play. Not to mention this kinda defeats the purpose of this new build loadouts. I don’t know. Anyone agree? Or do I just give in to the point amassing nonsense.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Yeah the new abilities aren’t that good if you want to get S ranks in these waves. Which is lame because the leviathan and ultima abilities actually look fun to use but if you want to effectively do S ranks you can’t really use them.
@chianmengchua3103
Ай бұрын
It's a valid complaint but at least they didn't lock any rewards behind the S rankings so I think it's a considerate game design in that sense. You still get to complete Kairos Gate the way you want and craft all the new stuff.
@cdmanjakАй бұрын
Very disappointing that its just a reused fight
@cephasokoro9504
Ай бұрын
It literally has a shit ton of new moves it's just a reused model and stage the fight itself is very different
@thesergalladaf6902
Ай бұрын
4:13 I don’t remember this attack.
@scavanger4618
Ай бұрын
@@thesergalladaf6902the attack was there in the first fight. It’s pretty much the same fight which is very disappointing
@thesergalladaf6902
Ай бұрын
@@scavanger4618 oh.
@PenguinsAreColdish
Ай бұрын
yoshi-apologists defending lazy reused content in the replies as usual
@wilberivs19Ай бұрын
Game is too easy, it’s just flashy.
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
Yes try out the new dlc and tell me it’s easy lol I played on FF mode they made the enemies actually deal damage
@dantegallardo1974Ай бұрын
It sucks that this fight is useless. Fighting our inner shadow seems like a perfect opertunity to unlock ifrit! And use him in combat! Like devil may cry 5 has sin devil trigger, we should unlock ifrit as a super move at least or something for this fight
@JMagistics3Ай бұрын
I wanted to love this dlc, but it still seem like the same gameplay, perfect dodge/attack. And a reused boss cmon now 😢
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Ff fans complaining as usual
@SSlash
Ай бұрын
Did you expect them to turn it into a different game just inside the dlc? Or change a shit ton in the final update? I don't know of many SINGLE PLAYER games that overhauled anything their combat, what did you actually expect tho like, element damage? Yeah it would be cool but half the time you don't know what everything is gonna be weak to, you'd be constantly changing stuff around and then just killing stuff EVEN quicker, at the end of the day tho what combat system like this doesn't boil down to "hurt them and don't get hurt back"??
@JMagistics3
Ай бұрын
@@SSlash i just wish they didn't make to perfect dodge so braindead to do, ruins any challenge for me, just don't see my moneys worth for this dlc is all
@tehCostHD
Ай бұрын
@@JMagistics3lmao what? What does that even mean? Have you beat the game on ultamaniac mode?
@darrylpreston4974Ай бұрын
You failed! You were flawless until you got hit lol you fail me as gamer lol Joking
@blushingralseiuwu2222Ай бұрын
No new ost? Booo
@medigoomnisАй бұрын
Oh how shocking, a lazy dark link bonus added to a bonus eikon that looks like the Skeksis from Dark Crystal. First we have Necron syndrome with Endwalker and now this, next summer vacation...what is yoshi p smoking these days?
@SSlash
Ай бұрын
I mean this isn't even the actual final boss of doing it normally so idk what that is but its prolly its own thing based off what they were saying before it came out
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Womp womp
@babyyyz7948Ай бұрын
Ure so trash can’t even parry in the game stop dodging bro and get good. Stop dodging and learn parry
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Where’s your all S rank kairos gate run? Just saying.. where’s YOUR parry only run if you are just so much more superior? I can parry and I just didn’t want to in this fight because I like to use Odin in my setup to do steel counter from the parries. But as you can see, I am not running Odin here. Either way, I’ll just play how I want to.
@babyyyz7948
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 yup and u play like a trash player bro git gud seriously
@ultimatechaosАй бұрын
The Secret Boss is really disappointing. There were far better ones in other FF games. Enemy recycling should be banned.
@shadownight9956Ай бұрын
Decades of final fantasy and we have this piece of garbage thank you square enix
@igg7865
Ай бұрын
relax
@shadownight9956
Ай бұрын
@igg7865 you are a fool to cope with this amount of laziness
@sadnessdiplomacy1985
Ай бұрын
@@shadownight9956 it's fine ? I mean on the literal sense even the mode Kairos gate takes inspiration after doesnt have any new bosses
@Harkins1721
Ай бұрын
The laziness that's this one fight or the DLC? Because the DLC is good. An improved version of Shadow Clive is good for I can understand it being disappointing for this final fight.
@DarkLordSauronrocks
Ай бұрын
@shadownight9956 your a fool to not realize this is a masterpiece then stop attacking people that like this game
@despretiondickek3465Ай бұрын
hmm pixelated, ffrk will have a lot job to do 😅
@NIGHDIАй бұрын
I wish they would give FF games the Tales of series treatment where you can fight characters from the last game as a secret Boss. Imagine a Noctis Super Boss fight in FF16
@shdwboi07
Ай бұрын
Now that would be dope, though I can already see the fanbase losing their shit if any protag is displayed beating another.
@NIGHDI
Ай бұрын
@@shdwboi07 We already got that in Dissidia, so i dont think it would be a Problem
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I’m seeing a lot of fights and stuff in the comments over how this fight is lazy and stuff. Here’s my take on it: I think the boss is alright, he has a plethora of new moves and his attacks definitely seem way faster and so it’s basically like a endgame tuned version of the boss you fight in the base game, which I think was a cool boss anyways and so I don’t mind this fight. However, the requirements to unlock this fight is to S rank all 20 waves of the kairos gauntlet which I think is very tedious and way too difficult of a requirement in order to unlock this fight. Especially since there is no reward for doing this fight, this fight is done only for bragging rights. I think that either the requirements to unlock this fight should be easier, or that there should be some reward to compensate having to S rank all 20 waves. Also, of course when anything final fantasy is brought up recently, people are gonna compare it to ff7 rebirth. So here’s my take on that as well: I think that rebirth and ff16 are equally as good, it’s 50/50 for me because I do have a bias towards action rpg games. Some of my favorite games of all time which I’ve put the most playtime into after all are dark souls, elden ring, Bloodborne, Sekiro, Nioh, etc. and so I hold this game in high regards. I think rebirth has a bunch of things it does better than this game like sidequests and stuff, but also think this game has a bunch of things it does better than rebirth such as boss fights. Of course this is just my opinion but I’ve been seeing a lot of people who think that this game is a lazy hot piece of garbage and that if you even remotely like it, that you are just coping and that rebirth is so much better. Which I think is crazy lmao, people have their game preferences and some people may not like the party fighting based gameplay of rebirth and would prefer the solo fighting experience that ff16 gives. The combat of this game will either click with you well or it will not. And if the combat of this game doesn’t feel good to those people then obviously they might just click with rebirth a lot better. None of these games are objectively better than the other and so all the arguments going on over which is objectively better is just pointless and it’s unnecessary.
@HunterForHire422
Ай бұрын
Well said
@zerase84
Ай бұрын
Understand you come from action rpg genre, do try to understand from the point of jrpg as well. Rebirth and button mashing combat aside, all of the final fantasy main titles have a party system. Like if joshua, jill, cid, dion etc are permanent party members where you can equip items and skills for them and form a team. That is the soul of jrpg.
@DSTkunn
Ай бұрын
@zerase84 And with that in mind, you have to consider the fact that Yoshi P said he doesn't like to prescribe to the term JRPG because at the end of the day they are making RPGs. Having a party doesn't make it an rpg. It's the same song and dance whenever anyone tries something new with Final Fantasy, which is funny considering the point of each one is to tell their own story from each entry. The heart isn't the turn based or action, the party or solo exploration, it's the story and always has been. The gameplay is just the transportation for the journey.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
@@zerase84 well it was obvious they were trying to do something very different with ff16. They always advertised it as their first ever action rpg which is why I don’t get how people always try to compare this to previous titles. They are extremely different games so why some people take comparing these games so seriously I will never get. In my eyes FF16 is just a completely different vision of FF and the only similarities it has from previous FF titles is having the same summons, and keeping the iconic creatures such as chocobos.
@Bloodhurl67
Ай бұрын
The difficulty for achieving this fight is fine imo but having no reward after S ranking all circles is the dumbest shit.
This game has set my expectations high for future use of summons.
Considering that you can beat Kairos gate on normal mode, I think this secret fight should be unlocked just for beating it on Final Fantasy mode. Especially considering once you die, or get the S rank, you have to start all over again. I hated that about the brutal and legendary vr missions on rebirth.
@MixedMilk1
Ай бұрын
the difficulty for this mode is set, does not change depending on what difficulty you choose.
@barrib158
Ай бұрын
@@MixedMilk1 The description is confusing but this is not true, it just defaults to action-based (meaning if you enter on story or lower, it will be action-based difficulty) but if you enter on FF mode it is harder. You can see at the top of the screen that the difficulty is shown as Final Fantasy, and you can also see that Clive is level 80 and enemies are 85 which is not possible on action-based.
I think rewards that enhance limit break for you and torgul or an unlimited limit break accessory would be simple but cool rewards for this fight, a shadow clive and limit broken clive skin would be cool too as rewards
@Blastanker
Ай бұрын
We already have the berserker ring for that. Dodge once and you have free limit break for like 5 seconds, and you can dodge again for with no cooldown for it
@NeroV1L3
Ай бұрын
@@Blastanker They just meant an accessory that makes limit better
@darryldavis6063
Ай бұрын
I like the Torgal idea
@veritasaeterna
7 күн бұрын
@@NeroV1L3 more accessory slots, more eikons we can use in battle, i want 4 instead of 3, that woulda been nice, honestly i thought the game was great combat wise
Not going to lie, I was hoping that this would be either Alexander or Gilgamesh
@radkesrealm
Ай бұрын
should have been gilgamesh or some classic ff staple
@Haseo55
Ай бұрын
I also thought it would be Gilgamesh mainly the new one.
@radkesrealm
Ай бұрын
@@Haseo55 I thought after playing ff7 rebirth, I hoped.
@chotho4718
Ай бұрын
It is surprising and disappointing that FFXVI doesn't have Gilgamesh, he has been in almost every popular final fantasy game. Medieval Gilgamesh would have an interesting design.
@alexandremonnot7024
Ай бұрын
Fight on the Big Bridge FFXVI would have been madness.
The boss is cool, but a possessed Ultima Joshua would have been a better secret boss. Like a new moveset. I think that would be cool. Ultima was trying to take over joshuas body when joshua sealed him away.
So that's the secret boss for the DLC. I was thinking it was either Gilgamesh or perhaps another crossover opponents like Garland or perhaps a hero from the previous games like Cloud or Squall. Something to make those S rank gains worth the effort and memorable.
Damn didn't know there was a secret fight that is epic
That final stagger was absolutely stunning. Love your gameplay.
thanks for the valliant effort, stylish action gamer.
@xRoycex
15 күн бұрын
Hahaha RIGHT
Now if the Scoring system wouldn't suck so hard, I would be absolutely happy with the game
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Very true, so many waves where I felt like “I got an S rank” but then an A rank appears instead then I had to reset the entire run. Having to S rank all 20 waves to unlock this fight was way too tedious, there should have been some leeway at least.
@radkesrealm
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 so its not s rank each collectively? it has to be 20 in a row? that seems impossible.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
@@radkesrealm yeah, all 20 waves S rank back to back and if you mess up once you have to restart all the way at wave 1 again and retry. It’s possible but time consuming, especially when you mess up on like wave 16 or something and then have to go all the way back to the beginning to do it again.
@radkesrealm
Ай бұрын
@safijivvaboi5081 I beat it last night, but I got all c rank (and 1 b and 1 a). I only focused on beating it, though.
@jqyhlmnp
Ай бұрын
@@radkesrealm same. I used all the ultimates to cancel out any attacks. Megaflare and that slow time ring to dodge. Ice glide and fire teleport and that ring that lets you press square to auto play everything. Then I focused only on hp and ability power . I’m so bad at the game that’s my only option :P
Question.. Why is there a different version of precision dodge and how do you activate your version in this video. I have been trying for a whil and my dodge only makes clive dodge to the left or right normally.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
The “berserker ring” makes it so your dodge becomes a slide and activates a mini limit break. In the main game it’s an accessory that you can get from spending that green currency I forgot the name of that you get from sidequests. And in the kairos gauntlet one of the boons you can buy is the “berserker ring” which will allow you to use it while in this gamemode.
@darkpromeathean937
Ай бұрын
Knowledge check 😅
@nishuzumaki8559
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 OMG i've beaten the entire game twice and nvr figured this out. Thank you so much for the info.
@Astreon123
Ай бұрын
Did you just not do any side content? This is on yourself@@nishuzumaki8559
I think after beating kairos gate we should be able to do the circles individually, theyve already not given us a boss rush mode and seeing how things are going now. The pc release is the only hope of us getting new content
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I would like to refight this guy again in case there’s some new moves he has which I didn’t get to see since I killed him too fast. But I do not want to go through the trouble of S ranking every single wave again just to fight him again.
Been waiting for this to be uploaded since I'm too lazy to get S ranks lol
wow! great job I thought it would be a few more days before we got to see this
Awesome job man!
The music score was anabsolutely fantastic.
Still upset we didn’t get Shadow Clive’s move set. That Shifting Fira is so cool.
Considering every single boss fight of Kairos Gate is pretty much a semi-primed Dominant, I find it fitting that the Shadow is the final boss, thematically too. Clive defeats himself yet again to prove to Ultima that he is his own person. Only, getting to S rank EVERY SINGLE CIRCLE is a bit too much. Just make this the default final boss if you clear the gate in Final Fantasy mode.
how do you activate the berserker ring perk? what type of boon are you upgrading?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
There’s a boon you can buy that is just called “berserker ring” that activates it. You don’t have to upgrade anything to get it.
I enjoyed this boss originally so I don’t mind it as much. But the requirements to get to it are way too high and it’s really not worth the effort unless you just really want to do it.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Agreed, the requirements should have been a bit easier or there should at least have been some type of reward.
Had a very urgent question how do people do that very cinematic precision dodge where it goes slow motion did I miss something 😭
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
The berserker ring accessory gives you this special precision dodge that activates mini limit break.
@sharkattack-uq7bi
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 omg thank you I been wondering this for so long😭
If you lose to the fight, do you have to s rank Kairos Gate again to rechallenge? Or can you just challenge him again?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
I didn’t fail to this guy so I’m not sure but I assume that you would have to redo the entire kairos gate again and S rank all the waves once again just going off of the premise of the gamemode and how it always resets you back to wave 1 if any fails happen. Which would be very sad indeed, good thing is that when you get to this guy you have accumulated so many buffs from the previous 20 waves and so I think it’s very difficult to die to this guy unless you get hit by his big one shot kill hellfire or something.
@samuelcalderon5525
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 that's most unfortunate. I'd rather just have an elemental, buffless attempt at him whenever I want. Seems like a cool boss just hate that it's hidden behind a cruel gauntlet of challenges
Yo good stuff dude, I've platinumed DMC games, Ninja Gaiden. I've seen some fiendish stuff, but theres always someone better like you. I truly believe I dont understand the combo system enough to S rank every stage, however...I have completed kairos gate.
Can I ask what you're doing with the Shiva move by dodging into the boss?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
When you press shiva dodge twice you drop a ice shard that freezes enemies for about half a second. But that’s enough time to use rift slip which slows down time and then you can land free hits. If you perfect time a dodge with shiva then it freezes everything in an aoe for about 8-10 seconds.
Thanks for posting, im happy just watching it on youtube. Uf no amazing reward im just guno pass on it.
Little disappointed we didn't get an Ifrit vs Shadow Ifrit rematch but what can you do?
Amazing gameplay you are a joy to watch pretty good at the game
What's that new sword and is it stronger than the Ultima Weapon?
@vargr7180
Ай бұрын
Yep and it's 750
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Yes it’s better than the ultima sword. 750 attack and stagger attack. You actually need ultima sword to even build this sword. You get the recipe to build this sword by completing the Kairos gauntlet once normally on final fantasy difficulty. It is worth noting that there is also the “tonberry knife+1” sword you can get from fighting the tonberry king boss in final fantasy difficulty and his sword has the most stagger attack in the game at 1000. Albeit, the raw attack is only like 500 or something I believe.
@vargr7180
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 exactly as you said
@elijaharroyo4846
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081do you just have to beat all of the circles normally, or do you have to get all S on all 10 circles to get the recipes?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
@@elijaharroyo4846 you just have to beat it normally as long as it’s final fantasy difficulty. My first run of this was a slog and I got C ranks on almost every circle except like 2 of them where I got an A rank. The S ranks is only if you want to fight this secret boss. Also there isn’t 10 circles, there’s 20 circles.
why people even complaining about this, this is a secret fight to an extra piece of content that isn’t even the main focus of the dlc.
@Lemfern
Ай бұрын
mostly because there was announced a secret boss and they sold it as something special like "you wont know who he is"
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
I think the boss is fine but the requirements you need to do to even unlock this fight is very difficult for what it is. You have to S rank all 20 stages of the kairos gate which is very tedious to do since you have to reset the entire run if you get just a single A rank on one of the waves. If it was a bit easier to unlock this fight I would not mind at all.
@t.v.1201
Ай бұрын
because it's extreamly tedious for not only 0 reward, but a also for a boss you already fought in the main story.
@DarkRei7
Ай бұрын
everyone expected Gilgamesh
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Because you can't please ff fans
Whats that sword?
danm so many comments and views nicely done
Sickkk!!! A master indeed. Ggwp
Wait there are no rewards for this fight.. like none? I like to 100% a game but no rewards is wild
is this fight just shadow clive from the base game but harder?
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
Yea kinda lame at least the music is good
Damn super unique build love it
Qualcuno sa come sbloccare l'ultima spada del DLC. Perché mi manca un materiale ma non so dove trovarlo
@user-gm4cn5eu8w
Ай бұрын
This material can be obtained at the end of the Kairos Gate (not from the secret boss)
I loved this game idc what anyone says. I do wish that Clive lived in like a clear happy-ever-after type of foolishness because I was sad when Torgal howled at the end but other than that it's a 10/10 for me.
Wait i unlocked original sin weapon and this boss never appeared for me???
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
This boss only appears when you S rank all 20 stages of kairos gate. You don’t need to get original sin.
Is it true that you cant change accesories in kairos?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
You aren’t allowed to bring any accessories at all in the kairos gauntlet. You also can’t even bring in your own sword or armor.
Nice sword! What sword is that?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
You get this sword by completing kairos gate once normally on final fantasy difficulty. You use the ultima sword and a few other materials to upgrade it into this sword which is the new best sword in the game with 750 attack and stagger attack.
Any new good/gamechanging gear in this dlc?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
The new leviathan and ultima eikons are extremely powerful and have a bunch of really powerful abilities. There’s also a new best sword in the game as well as new best armor.
@oneofthekindscarf8612
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 Don't forget the new accessories that upgrade or change the eikonic abilities
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
The accessories from the first dlc are pretty busted too
Amazing skills from you, but yeah a bit of a shame on the boss fight. I don’t think it’s lazy, but the cutscene dialogue preceding and following the fight definitely is.
How did you get to use Original Sin in Kairos? I'm stuck using the default Invictus model
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
It’s the appearance transform that you can do to weapons.
So... are we still having the same ending after all these hard work? 🤔
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Yes
@Hayashi-_-Game
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 damn it😂 thanks for telling me, so I don't have to try it myself. Nice work bro!
Which dlc is better? I wanna play both, but Echoes of the fallen seems kinda meh
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Rising tide is much larger and better. It also has side quests alongside a main campaign and also gives you 2 new Eikons unlike echoes of the fallen.
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081echos of the fallen has the best accessories though id get those asap
DMC wasn’t silly enough to lock things behind the scoring system. They should’ve just did ultimaniac kairo for this.
Honestly I’m just glad someone out there is capable of getting S Ranks in this mode. I’ve accepted it’s a pipe dream I’ll ever see one IRL.
@sodathejunker
Ай бұрын
That said, sick as this fight is I’m amazed that’s what they decided would be worth all that hard labor. I get not putting extreme dev time into something so difficult 0.0001% if the player base will ever see… but given this is the same team that devs an MMO and knows the insanity of FF players who will no-life content for the bragging rights, I’m just a teensy tiny bit underwhelmed.
I was planning on skipping the combat gameplay just to watch the cutscenes. But then I ended up staying because I love Find the flame. And then I was kinda mesmerized by how much ass you kick lol, wtf are those crazy combos?! At least now I'm sure I aint getting to that secret boss
another boss when completing every stage on S? wtf I didnt knew that🤯🤯🤯
"HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON, OLD ME?" "I love embodying the weakness of the young people! :D"
with how Yoshida teased this I expected a crossover secret boss like FFXIV / Gilgamesh or even Diabolos cuz he wants it so bad in FF16, disappointed to see chrome pack inner Clive fight for secret boss, at least I won't bother with this now
There is any reward?
@bryanlangit4631
Ай бұрын
nope just rhema
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, no. This fight is basically only for bragging rights I guess because you have to S rank all 20 waves of the kairos gauntlet to even unlock this fight. I do not think this fight was worth that grind, I think the fight is a fine boss but there should be a reward to compensate for having to S rank all the waves.
@bryanlangit4631
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 i thought the reward be like a powerful weapon or maybe we can change appearance as shadow clive lol
@inzone88
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 comletely agree. To not give a special reward, hell even a sword, is madness. And im not even gonna attempt to s rank it. Completing it on ff mode was all i wanted. Grats tho
They at least could have gave the Shadow Within a blue coloring
Holly F*uck!!! That was amazing!!! Ahh i wish i was that skilled, i get all frantic and lose hahahahaha, waw that was great, congratz :)
Did it give a reward ?? Like a sword or something
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
No sadly. You do get like a medal but it’s not an actual achievement so you don’t need to do this fight if you want to get all the trophies for this game. This fight is only done for bragging rights since you have to S rank all 20 waves of the kairos gauntlet to unlock it.
What’s the floating ball do?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Prevents damage from being taken and does small amounts of damage to enemies near me. It’s useful so that you can basically do your combos without worry of being hit.
Is mesmerize actually good ? Not effective for me
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
It does good consistent stagger damage for how short it’s cooldown is and how much you can spam it but it’s best use is that it groups up enemies so you can easily do collateral abilities such as scarlet cyclone.. and when you are going for S ranks in these fights it is a MUST HAVE because its the most effective way to rack up score.
@salmark9080
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 ah that makes sense. Did you play around with dominion from ultima? Feels better but I’ll try it out
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
@@salmark9080 I felt like dominion missed with the 2nd hit too much and it didn’t feel that strong for the cast time needed.
Alguien la subio en español latino?
How the hell are you getting an S in every single challenges?
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
You have to do combos and there’s a combo scale based on color. White color doesn’t give much points, blue gives a small amount of points, cyan gives a decent amount of points, green gives a bunch of points, and rainbow gives the most points. Obviously you want to use abilities that give green or rainbow combo and the best abilities for that include thunderstorm, any collateral abilities such as scarlet cyclone or upheaval and ice age, and then abilities to group up enemies allows for those collateral abilities to do even more work. You also don’t wanna use abilities like windup because those just do a bunch of damage and kill your targets. You don’t want to instantly vaporize the enemies because the longer the enemy is alive, the more combos you can do on them and build up more points.. but at the same time you don’t want to do too little damage because you gotta complete every wave within a 3 or so minute timeframe to get the level 3 time boost for the extra points.
@hailakmal4683
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 oh i see thx for the info!
Okay- let’s all just be thankful that the platinum doesn’t require this. It’s cool… but damn is it a waste of time. It’s just so you can push the leaderboard a **little** farther. I had really hoped that it would have been a fight against Ramuh, but it definitely wasn’t... Glad I searched this, as of typing I just beat Kairos with a not-so-perfect, bottom scratching S. And I’ll gladly leave it at that. (At least for a long time.) (One of my top 3 games of all time btw, don’t get the wrong idea-)
Clive vs Clive AGAIN. How original
@Mirage4492
Ай бұрын
@user-zs5oy2gt8g you're disappointed that a free and optional content Kairos Gate is not designed to your preference? Lmao
@Mirage4492
Ай бұрын
@user-zs5oy2gt8g wtf is shmuel? ur braindead
Bummer
How are you level 80 I was only level 40 when I did this
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
This is ng+
I'm stupid I'm bought american version of dlc but I had wrong disk my money is gone 😢😢😢
I kinda wished to fight Knights of the round but I ain't complainin
@PrimalDragon1740
Ай бұрын
Or Ultima Weapon
Dark Clive hum ? Would be way better to have gilgamesh instead. Even a near end journey gilgamesh to make him more serious/mature with all the previous main ff1/ff15 hero weapons. Or at least, to keep up with the teasing and fan service, some ff9 exclusive eikons like hades, ozma, or ARK would have been better
Clive is the best boy no, CLIVE IS THE MAN!!!
Instead of replying to people imma just leave this comment as a general statement. Anyone saying its the same fight again is certifiably high. Similar i'd give you but same is just plain ignorance.
@bluesrock1986
Ай бұрын
spoken like a true fanboy who would eat the shit right out of the devs asses
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
@@bluesrock1986womp fucking womp
@TranscientFelix
Ай бұрын
Not worth the effort regardless
@Crabo99
Ай бұрын
The problem is that they teased this secret boss as something new. People expected a whole new fight. I was disappointed as well.
tbf ppl mald over this but it's more or less what Bloody palace does so......eeeh? I don't get much of the complaints, it's definitively easier since you get buffs to use also. That said Bloody palace has the feature to allow you to test floors you've been in, which here is missing....would've been nice if that was possible.
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Unlike the DMC fanbase, ff is impossible to please
@Crabo99
Ай бұрын
Because the director/producer hyped the secret boss before release
@neobahumuth6
Ай бұрын
@@Crabo99 blame yourself for believing PR talk they are always exaggerated. Like when SEGA said that infinite wealth or Gaiden were a good entry point for the Like a dragon franchise. My ass they are
@Crabo99
Ай бұрын
@@neobahumuth6 no I dont blame myself lol, I blame them for saying that. People are right to be disappointed. Whole DLC is peak but they shouldnt have said that shit
@neobahumuth6
Ай бұрын
@@Crabo99 They are trying to sell you something, they won't be honest 100%.
well no reward at all :/
This game is so good!!! Anyone who doesn't agree is just stuck in the old ways.
@PenguinsAreColdish
Ай бұрын
cope
@DekkarJr
Ай бұрын
It's a great lol - im thjinking about doing a second New Game + on hard haha
@shadownight9956
Ай бұрын
And tge old ways were gold unlike the plastic shits we have in present
@CloudStrife777FF
Ай бұрын
Good, but that's all, the combat sadly gets old fast.
@lllool8404
Ай бұрын
FF7 Rebirth is superior in almost every aspect.
to think that gilgamesh has been in every main series FF title in some capacity only to see him not appear in FF16..................... rather disappointing ngl
You know, ultima saying “are you not mythos?” Is actually super interesting. It’s as if at this moment he realizes Clive isn’t the one he’s looking for and is not a strong enough vessel. Sure he can hold all the eikons, but he’s not able to cast the spell that ultima needs. So basically ultima just gave a man all these powers to go and fight him, and whether he wins or loses, it will regardless lead to ultimas defeat
@oberon_relic1161
Ай бұрын
"Why will you not kneel?" His inability to control clive is what makes him question that
@oberon_relic1161
Ай бұрын
Clive literally has all the eikons power along with ultima's at the end of the game, he also does use the world changing spell just not how ultima wanted he instead used it to get rid of magic forever
@andimari9194
Ай бұрын
@@oberon_relic1161 but ain’t there a part at the end where Clive states something like “seems like ultima was wrong, this vessel isn’t strong enough”
@oberon_relic1161
Ай бұрын
@@andimari9194 he was meant to survive it but he still used the spell
@andimari9194
Ай бұрын
@@oberon_relic1161 ohhh okay yeah so ultima plan was to defeat Clive and use his vessel to cast the spell. Unbeknownst to ultima, he would have died casting the spell since the vessel wasn’t strong enough
I beat the floors on new game plus 3 ff mode and they didn’t wanna give me this fight? Ridiculous 😂 still a great game tho
impossible
Wow I thought you just had to have a S rank by the end of a run not for all the damn circles. Well there goes my interest in fighting this boss. The scoring is so terrible imo. I feel like I did very good throughout my run and I was barely getting a rank B. Why is it so hyper focused on stalling it out with abilities instead of you know, playing good and beating the waves fast? I get not wanting people to just spam ult abilities but no reward for beating waves fast and efficiently makes no sense to me.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
You get a time bonus multiplier of 1.5x for completing the waves fast and you also get extra enhancement currency. The easiest way to get score is to do long combos on enemies while also using abilities like scarlet cyclone for collateral perks. You also basically have to buy the score up boons to get the S rank consistently.
@pulsevzero
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081I guess I just have to get used to playing a super specific way. Regardless the requirements are so extreme for a boss that is seemingly a push over and the fact that you can’t freely replay it.. This game desperately needs a boss rush imo.
How original lol
This is their secret boss? They can't be serious.
@apocalypse9199
Ай бұрын
ikr would have been better if it had unlocked some more of ifrits kit like hellfire or hammer and anvil. Such a missed opportunity, would have made sense.
@mThund3R_
Ай бұрын
@@apocalypse9199 I think they didn't do that because it would be pretty dumb to spend money on something that cool and then lock it to like 99.5% of the playerbase. It would also probably make someone mad. But yeah, having those moves would be amazing.
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Ff fans complaining as usual
@yousufl6624
Ай бұрын
@@G-Manfromhalflife Yes, complaining for a valid reason. This isn't a "secret" boss. I wouldn't have said anything at all if the developers didn't advertise it as something to be excited about.
@TheFlipsideShow
Ай бұрын
@@apocalypse9199hellfire and hammer and anvil are already apart of Clive’s moveset. They’re the lunge attach and his slam move when you are in limit break.
Well that's a disappointing secret boss.
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Ff fans complaining as usual
@misscrimson3555
Ай бұрын
@@G-Manfromhalflife Dude listen, I love this game despite all it's problems. But you can't deny that this secret boss is disappointing as fuck.
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
@@misscrimson3555 eh
@misscrimson3555
Ай бұрын
@@G-Manfromhalflife If you like the boss, that's perfectly fine, but you can't deny that this could have been way better or hype. Especially with conditions as hard to fulfill to unlock it.
@shafeekabdool3466
Ай бұрын
Its trash @@G-Manfromhalflife
I believe im the only weirdo who enjoys more FFXVI than FF7 in general (rebirth included). I’ve tried many times to force myself to keep playing FF7 but yet it’s all mini-games and anything else. I can’t say FF7 is not the masterpiece that’s considered but I really cant see the big deal about it tbh. In the other hand, FFXVI is really enjoyable for me. The fight is way less restrictive than FF7 (idk about rebirth yet) and the story is more interesting. Clive is way superior than Cloud and rest of the cast of FF16 is more interesting than the cast of FFVII too. Is the game a masterpiece? Could have been but it truly lacks a lot of stuff that’s necessary to become one but it’s really close to it. And stop asking for a turn base FF, it’s been years since the last once and they like it like that. I myself really enjoy turn based FF as 2 of my 3 fav FF are like that (FFVI and Tactics A2) but it’s not necessary anymore. Having an open world either. FFXVI is a game that focuses a lot more in the narrative than anything else and it does a great job doing it!
@shafeekabdool3466
Ай бұрын
Clive better than cloud? There's not a word that can describe how brain dead u must be to think that.
@Astreon123
Ай бұрын
Dude rebirths and remakes combat is shit
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
@@shafeekabdool3466cloud is seeing things bro is a crazy person 😂 and Clive is a whiny a baby both are kinda annoying tbh
Learning there is such an incredible boss fight locked behind such ridiculous conditions that probably not even 1% of the playerbase is ever gonna get to try is dumbfounding. I doubt even the majority of players who beat FF mode and get the Platinum are gonna be putting themselves through this, the Kairos gate is already difficulty enough and adding the ridiculous scoring system on top sucks ALL the fun out of this. I have to presume that while we're 100% not getting any more content for 16 that we get at least one or two more patches that aim to increase stability, FPS, fix any bugs and glitches which surely a bunch of new boss fights and two new Eikon power sets will have unleashed and while they're at it buff a few more abilities and remove this ridiculous condition, just clearing all 20 stages should be enough.
I love FF16 so much but Kairos Gate ain’t it. I was never a fan of the arcade ultamaniac point amassing builds that you were forced to use in order to get decent scores. Now we have this. I am super picky about collecting everything in this game but this Kairos Gate ain’t it. It’s exactly as this creator said, tedious. I love the idea of a dungeon that goes back to back to back fights (giving costlemark tower vibes in FF15 if you know you know) but the SCORING SYSTEM! Just let me play the builds I want to play. Not to mention this kinda defeats the purpose of this new build loadouts. I don’t know. Anyone agree? Or do I just give in to the point amassing nonsense.
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Yeah the new abilities aren’t that good if you want to get S ranks in these waves. Which is lame because the leviathan and ultima abilities actually look fun to use but if you want to effectively do S ranks you can’t really use them.
@chianmengchua3103
Ай бұрын
It's a valid complaint but at least they didn't lock any rewards behind the S rankings so I think it's a considerate game design in that sense. You still get to complete Kairos Gate the way you want and craft all the new stuff.
Very disappointing that its just a reused fight
@cephasokoro9504
Ай бұрын
It literally has a shit ton of new moves it's just a reused model and stage the fight itself is very different
@thesergalladaf6902
Ай бұрын
4:13 I don’t remember this attack.
@scavanger4618
Ай бұрын
@@thesergalladaf6902the attack was there in the first fight. It’s pretty much the same fight which is very disappointing
@thesergalladaf6902
Ай бұрын
@@scavanger4618 oh.
@PenguinsAreColdish
Ай бұрын
yoshi-apologists defending lazy reused content in the replies as usual
Game is too easy, it’s just flashy.
@thegamewin100
Ай бұрын
Yes try out the new dlc and tell me it’s easy lol I played on FF mode they made the enemies actually deal damage
It sucks that this fight is useless. Fighting our inner shadow seems like a perfect opertunity to unlock ifrit! And use him in combat! Like devil may cry 5 has sin devil trigger, we should unlock ifrit as a super move at least or something for this fight
I wanted to love this dlc, but it still seem like the same gameplay, perfect dodge/attack. And a reused boss cmon now 😢
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Ff fans complaining as usual
@SSlash
Ай бұрын
Did you expect them to turn it into a different game just inside the dlc? Or change a shit ton in the final update? I don't know of many SINGLE PLAYER games that overhauled anything their combat, what did you actually expect tho like, element damage? Yeah it would be cool but half the time you don't know what everything is gonna be weak to, you'd be constantly changing stuff around and then just killing stuff EVEN quicker, at the end of the day tho what combat system like this doesn't boil down to "hurt them and don't get hurt back"??
@JMagistics3
Ай бұрын
@@SSlash i just wish they didn't make to perfect dodge so braindead to do, ruins any challenge for me, just don't see my moneys worth for this dlc is all
@tehCostHD
Ай бұрын
@@JMagistics3lmao what? What does that even mean? Have you beat the game on ultamaniac mode?
You failed! You were flawless until you got hit lol you fail me as gamer lol Joking
No new ost? Booo
Oh how shocking, a lazy dark link bonus added to a bonus eikon that looks like the Skeksis from Dark Crystal. First we have Necron syndrome with Endwalker and now this, next summer vacation...what is yoshi p smoking these days?
@SSlash
Ай бұрын
I mean this isn't even the actual final boss of doing it normally so idk what that is but its prolly its own thing based off what they were saying before it came out
@G-Manfromhalflife
Ай бұрын
Womp womp
Ure so trash can’t even parry in the game stop dodging bro and get good. Stop dodging and learn parry
@safijivvaboi5081
Ай бұрын
Where’s your all S rank kairos gate run? Just saying.. where’s YOUR parry only run if you are just so much more superior? I can parry and I just didn’t want to in this fight because I like to use Odin in my setup to do steel counter from the parries. But as you can see, I am not running Odin here. Either way, I’ll just play how I want to.
@babyyyz7948
Ай бұрын
@@safijivvaboi5081 yup and u play like a trash player bro git gud seriously
The Secret Boss is really disappointing. There were far better ones in other FF games. Enemy recycling should be banned.
Decades of final fantasy and we have this piece of garbage thank you square enix
@igg7865
Ай бұрын
relax
@shadownight9956
Ай бұрын
@igg7865 you are a fool to cope with this amount of laziness
@sadnessdiplomacy1985
Ай бұрын
@@shadownight9956 it's fine ? I mean on the literal sense even the mode Kairos gate takes inspiration after doesnt have any new bosses
@Harkins1721
Ай бұрын
The laziness that's this one fight or the DLC? Because the DLC is good. An improved version of Shadow Clive is good for I can understand it being disappointing for this final fight.
@DarkLordSauronrocks
Ай бұрын
@shadownight9956 your a fool to not realize this is a masterpiece then stop attacking people that like this game
hmm pixelated, ffrk will have a lot job to do 😅
I wish they would give FF games the Tales of series treatment where you can fight characters from the last game as a secret Boss. Imagine a Noctis Super Boss fight in FF16
@shdwboi07
Ай бұрын
Now that would be dope, though I can already see the fanbase losing their shit if any protag is displayed beating another.
@NIGHDI
Ай бұрын
@@shdwboi07 We already got that in Dissidia, so i dont think it would be a Problem