The SECRETS Inside of Melee: Smash Bros. Beta and Unused Content - Aaronitmar
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Today let's dive into the secrets of Super Smash Bros. Melee, a TON was planned and some stuff was even developed!
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I love that Ultimate has content that was cut from every Smash game It really does feel ULTIMATE
@RedwoodRunners
5 жыл бұрын
I mean i guess not
@thevarietypacksnaxx405
5 жыл бұрын
One thing they didn't do right is costumes. If it really was ultimate, they should give us every version of every smash character as they were presented in previous games. For example, Twilight princess Link, Zelda and Ganondorf. Oot Ganondorf is pretty cool but I prefer his Twilight princess design
@jbkirby40
5 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about the unused voices for Brawl? Project M used many of these voice clips.
@doubleaura9387
5 жыл бұрын
Tails was also in wasn't he? Like there was a joke that he and Sonic were gonna be in (still hate that joke).
@leahluostarinen
5 жыл бұрын
@@SmashyPlays yeah I miss thoughs ones in past smash bros
Wait until he has to cover Brawl and it's hour's worth of unused content...
@MrFifa2112
5 жыл бұрын
atleast they put in tripping
@Liggliluff
5 жыл бұрын
But he only picks out what he finds "interesting". Meaning stuff other people already has talked about. Wished he could cover the minor things that other people don't talk about ... things that actually would be interesting.
@ArcueidBrunestudTypeVampire
5 жыл бұрын
11 minutes
It’s weird to think that if Melee was delayed so they could add more content into the game like more fighters such as Snake, Sonic and Wario and more items like the Smash Ball, Assist Trophies and Pokemon, Super Smash Bros Melee may have been a much different game and probably change how the entire Smash Bros series is today.
@christroyer69
5 жыл бұрын
The hell are you doing here?
@callmezeldaonemoartime
5 жыл бұрын
Oh hey
@christroyer69
5 жыл бұрын
@_D0ct0r_ Don’t be salty that I was first comment on this. Also no u
@Splozy
5 жыл бұрын
Why would have it changed anything? The game still would have taken off and Nintendo would still have tried to nuke it from orbit multiple times.
@laserbeamlightning
5 жыл бұрын
@@Splozy Melee purists might not exist
Sakurai: Takamaru and Ayumi are too obscure Also Sakurai: **adds Marth and Roy**
@thesuperthingymabob8209
5 жыл бұрын
Fire Emblem was a lot bigger than those two in Japan tho
@kalebthebonkboy7774
5 жыл бұрын
To be fair he wasn’t planning on adding them in western releases.
@kalebthebonkboy7774
5 жыл бұрын
Actually I think that might have been a rumor.
@Dracomut
5 жыл бұрын
Goes to show how obscure Takamaru and Ayumi are
@UltimaKeyMaster
5 жыл бұрын
Shit, I didn't even see that comment before I basically copied it-
Heck yeah, If you do Brawl cut content, make sure Dr. Mario, Mewtwo, Roy, and the other characters of the forbidden 7
@tuxedobird
5 жыл бұрын
Beau Rafferty I see I’m not the only doc fan. I don’t main him but he’s one of my backups.
@darkdoctor1915
5 жыл бұрын
@@tuxedobird, good to hear you play him at least
@randalljohnson3152
5 жыл бұрын
I’ll take Doc over the original Mario any day of the week. I even have his amiibo.
@darkdoctor1915
5 жыл бұрын
Randall Johnson, Doc is my number 1 Main, although at times I would play as regular Mario
@bryangarcia147
5 жыл бұрын
@@tuxedobird ok
Ditto does still appear in melee, but only if you start a tournament and hold left and right and select random....ditto's face will appear as your character
No the most important part of the Gamecube is the handle.
@tjlnintendo
5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the analog triggers 👀
@tifawockhardt
4 жыл бұрын
well honestly the handle makes sense because if you were trying to carry it with one hand it would be pretty hard not to drop it
@ewanmiller3609
4 жыл бұрын
Thought it was the fact you cant outgame the cube
I can’t believe Miyamoto was gonna be playable in Melee.
Banjo-Kazooie would be very hard to add to smash.
@Jayystuff
5 жыл бұрын
yeah...it would be pretty hard to get them in....
@buddafingaz2743
5 жыл бұрын
Risky lol banjo isn’t getting added because copyright and him being canceled already lol ecksdee
@Jayystuff
5 жыл бұрын
@@buddafingaz2743 shit u right
@justsomeplant3305
5 жыл бұрын
Guess we’ll have to wait until smash 6 for banjo to get in
@vinniecheng
5 жыл бұрын
they're in boi
I feel like the beta stages will be made in smash ultimate stage builder
@Liggliluff
5 жыл бұрын
Please recreate Test.
@flamefox8317
5 жыл бұрын
Liggliluff other people already remade test
@CertifiedSwagger665
4 жыл бұрын
@@flamefox8317 how will dummy be recreated!?!
@Starkiller156
4 жыл бұрын
How would the melee fire emblem stage work in stage builder
12:08 well of course! kirby is baby after all
@drkshdwx2156
5 жыл бұрын
Rss he’s a baby
My boi Ganon was never a clone, Captain Falcon stole his place in Smash 64! At least he got revenge in Melee. *DORIYAH*
@darkdoctor1915
5 жыл бұрын
This explains why he fights like falcon
@Splozy
5 жыл бұрын
he was added a week before release
@christroyer69
5 жыл бұрын
Splozy r/idonthavereddit It’s a joke, Sherlock
@Splozy
5 жыл бұрын
where's the funny bit?
@christroyer69
5 жыл бұрын
Well you’re fun at parties if you don’t see the joke. You may not see it as funny which I can accept, but I don’t need you ruining it. I’m not gonna go into the joke, you have been wooooshed
Wasn't Leif going to be in the game alongside Marth, but was scrapped because of Roy?
@Spartan-mv6om
5 жыл бұрын
I'm fairly certain that Leif was supposed to be with Marth, but since Roy was from an upcoming Fire Emblem game, they cut Leif and used Roy. Crazy, because in an alternate universe, everyone knows Leif and Marth as the Fire Emblem representives, and Roy is just another forgotton lord.
@HY0
5 жыл бұрын
@@Spartan-mv6om Right? Sakurai at least gave a nod to Leif with Marth's white costume which is cool though. Although, I feel like it's slowly differentiated itself from being a reference to Leif in the newer games.
@Spartan-mv6om
5 жыл бұрын
@@HY0 Yeah. It's starting to feel less like a Leif skin, and more like a white colored costume.
@Granetdud
5 жыл бұрын
I think in the long run, it's a good thing Roy was the representative, considering he has connections to the first game that came west. Is he a good representative for the franchise as a whole? That's debatable, but at the time, I think he was a better (sword wielding) rep than Leif (in my opinion, anyway). I'm glad Leif's a spirit in Ultimate, though.
@empressfrozentoes5285
3 жыл бұрын
they should stop being cowards and port that alt to roy already, break the tradition, be edgy
Would love to see Takamaru and Mach Rider playable one day.
9:12 "James Bond was a hard no due to its violent nature to his possible moveset" Nintendo: *adds Joker with Neutral B as Gun* (Its a joke, jeez lol.)
@sir.hopper
5 жыл бұрын
But it's not a real gun, though. It doesn't even shoot bullets. Don't believe me? Have Joker shoot Palutena, and have her use her Down Special on it. You know what move she will use? 'Counter', NOT Reflect. Furthermore, Villager and Isabel cannot pocket his Gun attack as well. There is no projectile being used with his Gun attack, it's effectively a melee attack as far as the game is concerned. Note that none of these scenarios have the same effect with Bayonetta's gun.
@JonahDeroy
5 жыл бұрын
@@sir.hopper Yup... Not a projectile.
@Honeneko.
5 жыл бұрын
Nah, the "hard no" was due to copyright stuff. Mainly the character's likeness to the actor. I don't even know who they need to go through for the movie rights. Without those, what would we even call the character? Secret Agent Man? Oh no! Another wall. Guy in a Tux it is. Joanna Dark might have been a good substitute but Banjo was the better choice.
@Fuzunga
5 жыл бұрын
Bayonetta has four guns!
@theveryloosegoose
5 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ guys It was a joke, calm down.
3:28 those are just switches from Yoshi's Story. You throw eggs at them and it changed the lane the cloud platform you were riding was on.
Very nice video man, great work!!👍👍
I was waiting for an episode like this, cause melee has tons of cut stuff
Low key thought Bubbles would be a cool character ever since she had a trophy in melee
@harrisonjefferson9993
5 жыл бұрын
Like the Powepuff
@Honeneko.
5 жыл бұрын
@@harrisonjefferson9993 Clu Clu Land
It always bothered me that smash 64 was the only one with the animations for the character select it's weird to know that it was planned for melee
I've been waiting for this one.
Mother 3 was titled Mother 3 on the N64 =b Earthbound 64 is just it's western name. That's why in the Japanese trailers for the game it Spouts Mother 3 all over the place, even in the in game textures.
Banjo Kazooie is finally in Smash ultimate
I thought Super Smash Bros Melee was a pretty good on the Gamecube
7:41 Didn't stop Marth and Roy though. Heck, Roy's game wasn't even out at all at the point that Melee was released in Japan. I wonder how many players confused him with his father Eliwood. Both in Japan, due to the timing, and in the rest of the World due to Blazing Blade being the first Fire Emblem released internationally. And younger Eliwood (FE7 is a prequel after all) does resemble his son quite much. If they ever remake the GBA-FE's I hope they do 7 before 6 and give us a method to transfer data in between the games...
@UltimaKeyMaster
5 жыл бұрын
And then FE7 ends with a smol Roy, only for the West to realize "...hold up, his game already happened and the *sequel* is a completely different continent!?"
@Granetdud
5 жыл бұрын
Haha, yeah, as a kid I thought it was Roy on the boxart and Marth's grizzled uncle (who turned out to be Hector) or something. I even named the tactician Roy because I was so sad that Eliwood WASN'T Roy. As an adult FE fan though, I can honestly say I like Eliwood a lot more. Fingers crossed for a 6 & 7 remake!
Everyday I lament that we never got Takamaru, Ayumi Tachibana, or Mach Rider in Melee. It would have been cool to see them return along side everyone else. 😔
This the only Smash game that people wanted James Bond to get into. I have no comment. Wait...
Marth has a voice clip that went unused in Melee! I think it was supposed to be used when he appears on stage at the start of the battle, it's of him saying "let's dance!" and imo, it's absolutely adorable.
You forgot to mention that the burning Castle portion of Castle Seige in Brawl was part of the scrap Fire Emblem stage in Melee Also Pit was also considered to be in Melee, but Ice Climbers was chosen over instead
Nice vid man 👍🏻👍🏻
Man those anjmations would have been great in melee on the chara select screen. IMAGINE IF ULTIMATE HAD THAT 😏🤔
@SpiffyRuffleroni
5 жыл бұрын
That would be hell to input one for every character in the game.
@SpiffyRuffleroni
5 жыл бұрын
@Lady Stardust Futher more, how would they even fit that in the 1v1 character selection?
@SpiffyRuffleroni
5 жыл бұрын
@Lady Stardust Now that I think about it, they probably would make a custom animation instead of using a victory animation.
@sir.hopper
5 жыл бұрын
The game has a hard enough time loading the alternate colors on the bottom half of the roster... I can only imagine how long it would take to render those 3D models.
@JonahDeroy
5 жыл бұрын
@@sir.hopper EXACTLY what I was going to say. Priorities, people. We just wanna play the game.
Damn, somebody mod that beta Green Greens design in, that shit looks SMOOTH
Funny thing about Marth and Roy when they were selected, is that Marth was glitched. And my main Roy was completely fine
I will counterpick you to Test if we play in pools at Smash Con
@Fall_4_Autumn
5 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a stage that promotes aggressive laser camping
3:36 they’re obviously tracks. Look at how they would match up to the dotted lines (which platforms could’ve been meant to travel on) and the red balls could’ve been meant to hit so you could change the tracks directions.
Sakurai: I only add a character if they had an interesting trait in them so no Waluigi... *"Also Sakurai"* : I wanna add mach rider because he has a cool name
I still want to know what the Archanea stage would have looked like (for context, Archanea is how Akaneia was localized in Shadow Dragon, so I've started calling it that.)
Melee is the twitter of smash bros. Everyone uses it for some reason, but no one can actually explain why
@Lucas17031
5 жыл бұрын
And they're Both shit loooool
@lucydream64
5 жыл бұрын
Lucas Van der Voort twitter and melee are both the best (best social media and best smash) respectively LOL
@Lucas17031
5 жыл бұрын
@@lucydream64 yeah, No, i played Melee a few times, and i hated it, Ultimate is still better
@lucydream64
5 жыл бұрын
Lucas Van der Voort maybe you just suck at smash 🤭
@Lucas17031
5 жыл бұрын
@@lucydream64 im a good Lucas/Lucina player thank you, and An okay Ness
I remember hearing from somewhere that Final Smashes were intended to be included in Melee too, but they couldn't figure out how to implement them in time
My favorite fact you mentioned is how the beta stages looked compared to their final forms. I think most of the final forms are better though is neat seeing what they previously appeared like; especially the Yoshi's Island stage. You should do one on Brawl if you ever get the desire man!
I'd love to see one day Balloon Fighter, Urban Champion, Bubbles, ExciteBiker, Ayumi Tachibana and Takamaru join the fight. Having them as Assist Trophies (like Takamaru) wouldn't be bad either.
@randalljohnson3152
5 жыл бұрын
El Karlo ExciteBike is already an assist trophy
@elkarlo1593
5 жыл бұрын
You mean ExciteBike WAS alerady an Assist Trophy.
@MeowDonut
5 жыл бұрын
Villager recovery is balloon Fighter's balloon float thingy
@linkydoki
5 жыл бұрын
Villager IS BALLON FIGHTER.
Now all we need is waluigi
11:36 that Game and Watch selected animation is cursed.
Here's my problem. Sakarai turned down multiple japan exclusive characters, but let Marth and Roy be in Melee. SSBM even says that fire emblem is JAPAN ONLY (at that time). I didn't even know anything about fire emblem until a decade later (2015), so I don't see why Sakarai denied Japan only games if fire emblem was.
@Granetdud
5 жыл бұрын
Well, to be fair, Fire Emblem was (about to be) six games deep in it's franchise at that point, while they others were one shots from the 80s. Whether it was inevitably coming to the west or not, I think it might've just been a safer investment if they were looking for more game franchises to represent.
@Akay4444444444444444
2 жыл бұрын
Most of the others only had one game, while FE had half a dozen games and an OVA (which, fun fact, actually was released outside Japan)
I love the ice climbers wobbling pichu clips (atleast thats what i think is going on in those clips)
I can’t believe James Bond was considered as a fighter👌
@sir.hopper
5 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda glad he didn't. He would have broke the restriction of Smash ONLY having characters that originated from a video game. If he made it in, then the arguments for Goku and Shrek to be in would have a LOT more weight to them.
@nickspencer2207
5 жыл бұрын
@Adam Hopper Smash bros was originally a celebration of Nintendo, but then brawl happened, and it became a celebration of gaming. If James Bond has made it into melee, smash just would’ve become a celebration of pop culture as a whole instead.
@sir.hopper
5 жыл бұрын
@@nickspencer2207 And that's exactly why I'm glad James didn't make it in. The definition of 'pop culture' is so vague that Smash Bros would have become a joke by its fourth game had they just allowed whoever was popular around the time the game came out. Having it restricted to the history of video games is a much tighter genre to work with.
@Honeneko.
5 жыл бұрын
@@sir.hopper I think they didn't know that James Bond and 007 were part of a movie franchise until they researched the rights. Was still easier getting Banjo.
It would be so interesting to see how Melee would've turned out if it had just a little more development time. I'd love to see how characters like Snake, Wario, and Sonic would've turned out with Melee's engine(don't bring up PM lol).
Another Aaronnitmar video!
You forgot to mention leaf from fire emblem because if you did not know leaf was consider to be Marth's clone before that would be Roy and originally there was going to be FS but then they got cut and there's was originally going to be spirits in melee but then they got scraped
I remember playing this game with my siblings, and I remember having so much fun that by the time I looked at my watch it was 1:00 AM, time goes by when you're having fun lol! 😂😄😁👍 There is some interesting stuff in this video that I was not aware of until now, quite interesting. 🤔
3:35 the thing you are talking about is a refrence to yoshi 64 there acouple levels where you ride a path and have to hit them with eggs to trigger the switch to avoide death or bumper as well as getting some melons I believe there mostly in the first page since there are very select few. Locations in the pages that have like grassy terrain with trees etc etc
MELEE MELEE MELEE MELEE
@charliefunk3309
5 жыл бұрын
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Shed a tear every time he mentions mother 3 being canceled on the n64 and GameCube. Originally it was 64 but the game was reaching the end of its lifespan so they switched development to the GameCube but the team didn’t have experience in making 3D models so mother 3 got scrapped till 06’ I feel like if Iwatta came in and helped mother 3 would have been on the game cube.
Well now I want James Bond in smash
In the N64 version the motion bomb is 007 for all regions.
*Not familiar to the western audience?* *Then why the hell were there Fire Emblem characters in the game?*
@Sean-D78
5 жыл бұрын
They were going to make them Japanese exclusive.
@malikprana1771
5 жыл бұрын
fire emblem came to the west.....
@jedimasterpickle3
5 жыл бұрын
@@malikprana1771 Not until after Melee, and Roy's game remains Japan-exclusive, as does Marth's second game.
@malikprana1771
5 жыл бұрын
@@jedimasterpickle3 ok, so the game still came to the West.......
@jedimasterpickle3
5 жыл бұрын
@@malikprana1771 You seem to be missing the point. In this video, Aaronmitar mentions the hesitance of the developers to put in characters from Japan-exclusive franchises, and so OP points out how strange it is that Fire Emblem, which was Japan-exclusive at the time and remained as such for another 2 years, had characters represented in the game. It doesn't matter that Fire Emblem was later released in the west, just that it hadn't been at the time.
It's weird seeing that Melee was so much cut content. I would've live to had seen the Archanea stage and have Snake in Sonic in.
James Bond in Smash would be dope.
As a kid, I spent countless hours looking at the hundreds of trophies on Melee, and have tons of wonderful useless information from them. I'm so thankful for that. However, I wish that they had just been 2D from the beginning, and all that time spent on doing the 3D rendering for all of those trophies could have instead been spent on creating people we could have actually played. I feel like trophies sadly hello Sakurai back significantly. I wonder if anyone has ever asked him if he feels that way, since he slipped them out to make Ultimate all that it is. I do think it wouldn't have been out of reason to give one person the job of doing a Google search and print information for each Spirit as text that you could find next to it on the Inventory screen... But, we've all got the internet for that now, I suppose. What do you guys think?
happy to ics wobbling pichu here lmao
*THE BASS*
6:12 I'm not happy
well they got banjo :)
I think those things on Yoshi's Story that you weren't sure about are path changers. The red thing looks like a lever that would probably rotate the indent when struck, changing the path of whatever followed those lines (likely platforms)
when Steve is announced: suck it nitmar
How about Leif in smash melee?
Imagine if we had the character selection screen animations all the way in ultimate for every fighter tho
i guess the reason why they decided not to have the lab open in the ocarina of time level is because they thought it was a waste and looked weird and the blocks going up with the songblocks in the yohsis island level to kinda yoshis story as well
You missed the fact that if you beat adventure mode 50 times with each character you get Minecraft Steve as a playable fighter.
I can't believe that you didn't mention that you could control the rotation and presence of one of the platforms on the Test stage with port 4
The Paths are from Yoshi's Story and they work kinda like on/off blocks or... like a railroad switch
Ah Cut, but never forgotten..Sakurai never forgets just reamber smash balls
Exactly 70,000 views :-)
At 4:52 Donkey Kong Claps To The Beat
9:05 HAH!
Who is watching after they revealed banjo for ultimate
3:26 - Path switches for the moving platforms, but that's just an idea.
Make a part 3 because I watch part. 1 of this plz make part 3
i still cant get over kirby having a DEMON BABY
Goku was said to be playable in Melee, but was ultimately scrapped due to time constraints
Banjo is here now🐻🦅
11:43 did shiek just dab?
I've seen videos like this all the time I thought this was old
I find it very confusing that there were stages from the Kirby series in Melee, yet Kirby didn’t show up in the game
@somarramos816
5 жыл бұрын
That's good yo
@cirlu_bd
5 жыл бұрын
You must watch too much competitive melee bros...
@self-consciousmess
5 жыл бұрын
Herbert The Duck I’ve actually never watched competitive Melee lol
@cirlu_bd
5 жыл бұрын
@@self-consciousmess so nice joke, you referenced something with only the context in mind and no actual experience by yourself
The bellsprout from sprout tower is just a Dynamax
marth's selected animation mimics roy's for some reason, strange that everything from marth was ported to roy except the character selected animation
Banjo is in smash
3:30 they are track switches. They control where it can turn
I know why they got rid of them, but why did they think to have music note blocks in the Yoshi's Island stage in the first place?! Music note blocks were in SMB3 and never appeared in SMW!
I theorize that the dummy stage was Nintendo planning ahead for the E3 2006 demo showing the Melee characters before their update. This is obviously just my opinion, though.
yooooooo im from palo alto, california!
Test should be tournament legal
5:53 Rrrrrrrrreposado
Me Too!
5:59 -ries
My phone says im first but doubt I am
@SmashyPlays
5 жыл бұрын
Alondra Quiroz 1 minute late rip
Imagine James Bond’s victory screen
Who came back to this video when Nintendo revealed banjo & kazooie for smash ultimate
What if u were that baby on Kirby’s reflection and your in smash
Is Forbidden 7 getting their own video?