The Secret History Order

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The more I think about this order, the more I like it. Apart from the fact that Secret History goes after Bands of Mourning.
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  • @CarlyAndJason
    @CarlyAndJason18 күн бұрын

    Plus whatever book Brandon accidentally writes 🤣 this is great, I think you took the RAFOO and made it even better.

  • @TheCosmerenaut

    @TheCosmerenaut

    12 сағат бұрын

    The more I think about this order, the more I like it.

  • @1AmGroot
    @1AmGroot17 күн бұрын

    My first Cosmere book was Stormlight 1 and I absolutely loved it. Heard about it from a D&D channel of all places and it literally changed my life and got me back into reading after a long while

  • @youtubeaccounter5900
    @youtubeaccounter590017 күн бұрын

    Posting it here so that my reply to that other comment won't be buried. Reading it after hero of Ages the emotions hit me raw, and it gave me closure and answered lot of questions, and explained so many helpful things, and helped me get started on my Cosmere journey. Reading it after Bands just for a very lame reveal which was already spoilt some what in the previous books feels so much more worse. I think objectively it should be read immediately after hero of ages for the best experience. 8 out of 10 people I have spoken to say that it is better after hero of Ages. Unless you are reading only the Mistborn books, back to back within two or three months without taking any breaks, it will be too long, for the maximum emotional impact. Again 80% but it is still the majority. The excuse that it should be read after bands because Brandon said so does not work because, that was during the earlier days of the Cosmere, almost A decade ago. Things have changed so much. And if you remove that one single mystery in bands, then there is literally no reason to wait until that book. However there are multiple reasons to read it immediately after hero of Ages.

  • @ApoMelon

    @ApoMelon

    17 күн бұрын

    Agreed. I only recommend reading secret history after bands of mourning if you’re like me where I binge-read every cosmere book back to back in Easter egg order while taking notes, highlights, and annotations in the kindle, and watching reviews of books, and reviewing summaries of previously read books, then sure, I’ll still remember the events of hero of ages well enough to the point where secret history hits hard (I read secret history four months after finishing hero of ages). If you’re a normal person, then yes read secret history after hero of ages.

  • @Sailor_of_the_infinite_sea
    @Sailor_of_the_infinite_sea16 күн бұрын

    I did Secret History after Bands on my first read through and I thought it fit fine. However, on my re-read of the entire cosmere I have been reading secret history alongside the original trilogy during the relevant time periods. I found where the breaks were on a Reddit post and it’s been fun jumping back and forth.

  • @mndrew1
    @mndrew117 күн бұрын

    In the immortal words of this worlds greatest bards (Whom also might just be giants) "You're not the boss of me."

  • @bigdaddye3249
    @bigdaddye324915 күн бұрын

    Just started the Cosmere and finished the Mistborn era one. Was toying with doing secret history now instead of waiting, and this actually convinced me to try that method

  • @danehardy1898
    @danehardy189815 күн бұрын

    I usually suggest publication order, with Elantris being the exception. Throw that one in once the reader is invested (hah!) in the Cosmere.

  • @prestonc9059
    @prestonc905915 күн бұрын

    Imagining being an aspiring cosmere reader watching this video is hilarious, I would've gotten terrified by the sheer amount of books

  • @meredithbutikofer5658
    @meredithbutikofer565815 күн бұрын

    I believe that Secret History squarely belongs after the Bands of Morning. I’m also biased because that’s where I read it, (Immediately after finishing the Bands of Morning) soooooooo.

  • @TheSandbox_Official
    @TheSandbox_Official17 күн бұрын

    My thoughts on this: Sanderson also says Tress is a “perfect” introduction to the Cosmere, saying if “someone wants to sample his writing style”. However, I think we can all agree that while Tress is a “fine” starting point, it’s infinitely better after someone has read other books such as Elantris. We have to remember that Sanderson is not just an author, but a businessman, and sometimes what’s “intended” or “suggested” isn’t always undoubtedly “best”. However, all that said (for the sake of devil’s advocate i might add), the “publication order” is never wrong!

  • @Atnat57
    @Atnat5715 күн бұрын

    I personally think Secret History should be after era 1 unless they are already committing to a cosmere re-read, but the argument against that made the most sense to me is that reading Secret History before era 2 makes you think that character is gonna be a way bigger deal than they are, rather than the background player they become

  • @moonknight6893
    @moonknight689310 күн бұрын

    This year I actually followed the previous reading order, so after I finished era one of Stormlight I read Secret History so to help me recap the first era of Mist before going to Mistborn era two

  • @DanielSClouser
    @DanielSClouser17 күн бұрын

    The main thing w/ Secret History is that it depends on how an individual reader reacts to Era 2. If they're like, "Oh, cool! I love this change in direction," then they should definitely stick with what Sanderson intended. If, however, they are really reacting poorly to Alloy, then I would recommend stopping and reading Secret History. In many cases, Secret History will provide the deeper context, etc., that they need to get into Era 2. I think you can't go wrong mostly sticking with publication order, but I certainly understand the desire to not have to switch back and forth between series with every book you read. Even so, there is an interplay between Stormlight and Mistborn that you will miss if you don't do it a little. Mainly, it would be wise to read Secret history before Rhythm of War (or even Oathbringer), and it would also be best to read RoW before The Lost Metal. There are a number of ways that you can shuffle the series to accomplish that without constantly flip-flopping between them.

  • @drewsandoval6842
    @drewsandoval68429 күн бұрын

    I agree with secret history after bands of mourning, at least with the cosmere reread!

  • @Draugo
    @Draugo16 күн бұрын

    Distinctively missing at least seven other readings of Warbreaker

  • @tannerflowers1994
    @tannerflowers199417 күн бұрын

    I recommend people start with Emperor's Soul. I have yet to see anyone else use that as a starter recommendation

  • @robertoleary5470

    @robertoleary5470

    17 күн бұрын

    Or at least made the list

  • @Alaztyr

    @Alaztyr

    16 күн бұрын

    I absolutely agree with starting with The Emperor's Soul tbh

  • @TheCosmerenaut

    @TheCosmerenaut

    12 сағат бұрын

    That's what I suggested to my brother to introduce him to Sanderson and he loved it.

  • @henriksorensen82
    @henriksorensen8216 күн бұрын

    I think that the reading order depends on whether it is the first or second (possibly 3rd, 4th, etc.) time you read Cosmere. Came into the Cosmere universe very late, I started by backing the TWoK leatherbound kickstarter because I thought the book was very beautiful, but then I realized that maybe I should read his books too, so then I went and bought all his Cosmere books which were published at the time. I started with Mistborn Era1 and after that it was Elantris, Warbreaker and then Stormlight, after that I read the rest of the books as soon as they came out. But when I read the series again for the second time, I tried to read it in chronological order (which is not the easiest thing to keep track of) and it's absolutely the best when you read it again, I think, because you've already read it at least once time before so it's nothing new for you, just things that you might not remember completely that become a little clearer and of course everything that you "missed" the first time you read it.

  • @connor_phillipz5689
    @connor_phillipz568917 күн бұрын

    I read Secret History for the first time after Bands. As someone who read it the "right" way, I firmly believe it is a much better experience after Era 1. Noone can convince me otherwise.

  • @HotshotMama
    @HotshotMama17 күн бұрын

    Basically doing this order right now! I hated the idea of going back and forth between worlds for books so finishing stormlight now then doing secret projects

  • @ivel2934
    @ivel293417 күн бұрын

    I regret waiting til after bands to read Secret History because I was relatively active in the online communities and got hints of what might be the case, and after I read RoW I pretty much knew the twist everyone whispered about.

  • @snowdrop9810
    @snowdrop981017 күн бұрын

    My current order is: entire stormlight, then warbreaker, then mistborn, then stormlight, then some secret projects, then elantris, then novellas, then stormlight then repeat.

  • @robertoleary5470
    @robertoleary547017 күн бұрын

    I did read way of kings first though I thought Mistborn would have been a better place to start

  • @thesanderlanche6648
    @thesanderlanche664817 күн бұрын

    Warbreaker is more of a mystery novel than the various Mistborn books where they’re having to solve mysteries? Not sure I can get onboard with that statement. Good video though!

  • @curiousdaniel78
    @curiousdaniel7817 күн бұрын

    Niceee

  • @PaigeTheFramer
    @PaigeTheFramer7 күн бұрын

    Ugh.i shouldn't have watched this video. I want to read all the books in this order now. 😅

  • @insertname5371
    @insertname537117 күн бұрын

    Secret history as a story independent of reading order concerns works so much better after era 1. You are much closer to the characters and can feel the flow of the book more. I’ve noticed a split between those who read it before and after era 2. Those who read it before focus on the actual emotional impact of the story where as after era 2 (and often even Stormlight) its discussion of the more technical matters takes a forefront.

  • @rayseodium
    @rayseodium17 күн бұрын

    Oh my gosh - that order would be terrible.

  • @kylewilliams3322
    @kylewilliams332217 күн бұрын

    Anyone who thinks secret history should be read before bands of mourning is wrong and they should reevaluate their life choices. Not only are they wrong, but also vile and immoral. My preferred reading order is clearly the best. I am of course (mostly) joking.

  • @youtubeaccounter5900

    @youtubeaccounter5900

    17 күн бұрын

    Reading it after hero of Ages the emotions hit me raw, and it gave me closure and answered lot of questions, and explained so many helpful things, and helped me get started on my Cosmere journey. Reading it after Bands just for a very lame reveal which was already spoilt some what in the previous books feels so much more worse. I think objectively it should be read immediately after hero of ages for the best experience. Anybody else is completely wrong. And I am not joking.

  • @kylewilliams3322

    @kylewilliams3322

    17 күн бұрын

    @@youtubeaccounter5900 TIL brandon sanderson is wrong about his own book reading order.

  • @youtubeaccounter5900

    @youtubeaccounter5900

    17 күн бұрын

    @@kylewilliams3322 when secret history was released it was ok to read it after Bands and not read it after the Trilogy. And that was when Brandon said, you have to read it after bands. But after that Brandon has never told that he still refers the same reading order for Secret history after all these years. So at the time he was correct, but if he currently still thinks the same then he is wrong.

  • @pau3464

    @pau3464

    9 күн бұрын

    ​@@kylewilliams3322Brandon makes his order thinking about strictly the "plot twist". But the actual experience of the reader is different. First if you wait long to read secret history then the book loses a lot of engagement if you dont remember well Hero of ages. And the plot twist is hard to avoid in the internet so waiting just makes It more difficult to evade it. And finally myself i like reading stormlight archive before era 2, so that would be even a longer wait from reading secret history and i think It contains so much useful information to enjoy and understand stormlight.

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