9.3x62 is one of the oldest and best hunting cartdriges in the world. Had mine for over a decade.

Splendid! 9.3x 62 and 7x57Mauser make a Superb Pair!!!

Mr. Hackathorn, you really made me smile when you said your favorite cartridge was the 6.5x55. Been shooting the cartridge since 86'. A guy named Clay Harvey introduced me to it. Thanks for the video!

I had looked for a nice 35 Whelen for years. Found a Ruger 77 in 9.3x62 for a decent price and snatched it up. Glad to see another 9.3 enthusiast.

Since being bequeathed my hunting mates Mauser action FN 9.3x62, I've grown to LOVE the calibre (my 30/06 is getting jealous!!). Everything these guys say about the 9.3x62 is true. It is a SUPERB calibre!! Period!! On my last trip, I dropped a cape buff with a single frontal quatering shot. The 286gr Woodleigh RNSP went in on the inside of the right shoulder, went through the top of the heart, and the projectile went on and was found just under the rear left rib!! Wonderful 40" straight line penetration - you couldn't ask for better performance!! 👍

The 9.3×62 reminds me of the 22-250, in that everyone who has used that cartridge loves them. They just flat out work. I've never heard anybody bad mouth these two great rounds.

9.3x62, .358 Winchester, .35 Whelen... these guys just rattled off my top 3 favorite cartridges!!! 😂 Glad to know I’m with good company! (Not that it matters.)

Hmmmmmmmmm, 9.3x62 . . . ? I always knew the man had class. I've been using the cartridge for years.

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!! 😊👍

I wish we had more crf rifles chambered in 9.3x62 and other African calibers. And more rifles with iron sights, but I am probably a luddite when it comes to such things. A well thought out and practical pair of rifles.

@warpspeednow

9 ай бұрын

I re barreled a model 70 crf into a 9.3 x 62, works perfectly with a good firber glass stock. Not an expensive project.

Picked up a 9.3X64 Brenicke German guild gun a real 375 equal. Regards to Ken we were at Columbia Conference together in 1976 but lost touch. Spent 25 years with US Marshals had Jimmy Cirillo for firearms trainer in Basic.

@borkwoof696

2 жыл бұрын

The 9.3x64 is an amazing round. .375H&H performance in a standard length action and with less powder.

The Ruger M77 is one of my all time favorites. I own several and they are as useful as a pocket on a shirt.

I just bought a 9,3x62 Mauser 98 bolt action rifle. Here in France it's one of if not THE most popular calibre (we almost only hunt big game in driven hunts) !

@hugtango

2 жыл бұрын

I would guess that the 7x64 could be slightly ahead of the 9.3x62. I own a voere 60cm barrel 9.3x62 norma vulka 15 grams has never failed me on hogs

@Hecate25240

2 жыл бұрын

Bought mine in 2007. Sauer 202 bolt action. Never failed me. Bonjour du Jura ;-)

@politicallyincorrectandpro5856

2 жыл бұрын

I have been using the 9,3x62 since twenty years here in France for roe deers, boars, palm deer and deer , currently I shoot Brennecke TOG ammos

@politicallyincorrectandpro5856

2 жыл бұрын

With Blaser R8

I, by chanse, met Col. Jeff Cooper on a shooting range in Norway back in the days. He had to shoot a required test to go moose hunting with a couple of norwegian guys. Cooper had a Rem 600 in 350remmag. I can remember the discussion because Cooper was "outgunned" by a 9.3x62 rifle one of the norwegians used.

@markhirstwood4190

4 ай бұрын

Very cool...

I went hunting in the Czech Republic in the 90s with a Ruger No. 1 with Mannlicher stock and 20" barrel and caliber 7x57mm. I shot a roe buck there at 180 m. 7x57 is a good hunting cartridge. I also had a pre-war Mauser in 7x57 (1937) and an FN Mauser in 9.3x62 caliber. Sako are good weapons too. Back then, I had a Sako 375 H&H converted to the 404 Jeffery caliber by a Nuremberg gunsmith. I am a German from Franconia and now live in Thailand.

That cartridge is as old as Moses,massive energy for the time and even now.

@carlschumacher3257

2 жыл бұрын

1905, yeah it has been around.

I was lucky enough to pick up one of the Gunblast Ruger M77 a while back and fell in love with the 9.3. I then got a Mauser M12 in it as well and that is my go to rifle. Absolutely fantastic.

Who would have guessed Bill Wilson would use a modified Ruger model 77 for African game. Never heard of the 9.3x62mm cartridge either but it sounds like a good one. 👍

@Hecate25240

2 жыл бұрын

It's the best actually. Got mine in 2007. Works like a charm either on a 14 kg roedeer or a 100 kg wild boar.

Raised my appreciation for my Ruger 77. If a Ruger 77 is good enough for Bill Wilson, then it's good enough for me.

@thinman8621

2 жыл бұрын

@@the1knifepro169 Thanks. My Ruger is an older one with a tang safety. Caliber is 7mm Magnum. It's like new. Too much recoil for this white tail hunter.

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

I've had my Ruger M77 30/06, that's still in factory condition, for 35yrs now. Taken everything from kudu and wildebeeste down (and a shark!) My daughter took her NT water buffalo with my dear old 30/06 too. NEVER had a jam, or any problem with it - and as of last week, STILL shoots sub-MOA at 200m!! Perfect!! 😊👍

Love that you mentioned 358 win. Always wondered why that wasn’t more popular

@kevinlewis8137

Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard that when it came out the gun writers saw it as an excellent cartridge, then the magnum craze hit a few months later, burying the .358 in obscurity.

@Lure-Benson

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinlewis8137 This is a problem listen to gun liars prapanada because Weatherby was doing his cartridges long before the 358 win

I also love the 77. I'm surprised they don't use stock bolts in the heavier calibers. I have one in .338 Win. On almost exactly the 600th shot the stock split like firewood. I sent it back to Ruger and it came back with a new stock with a stock bolt at the recoil lug. (no charge)

I understand most Europeans only have about 2 or 3 rifles and they hunt everything with them. Usually a 6,5×55 Swedish or 7×57 Mauser for all deer, mouflon, Ibex, Chamois, sometimes even Moose. And a 9,3×62mm for driven boar, bear, bison, moose and of course dangerous game in Africa, the Big 5. Here in the States we want to have the latest new thing and have 1 gun it seems for every type of game and end up having like 10-15 rifled haha. There's nothing wrong with that I suppose I myself have 4 rifles. But a lot guys I meet have lots more. At least for me it's too expensive to have that many rifles and different types ammo etc

@MrPh30

6 ай бұрын

Scandinavian 6,5 , 8mm or a .30-06 and some with 9,3 . Skip the middle rifle for many .

I have been using the 9.3x62 since the early 2000's, great caliber for worldwide hunting. I have used it in the States, Europe and Africa. Mine is a left hand Zoli (old Husky) 1900, topped with a Meopta 3-9x, German #1 reticle. Most often the pill is a 286gr Partition pushed with 58gr of R903/RL-15. Terminal performance is super. As indicated by Bill, handier than my .375 H&H, and my go to rifle for Africa.

I have the factory M77 African chambered for it and it is super fun. Had a young 8 pt dead to rights at 48 yards on Saturday but passed as he was a youngun

I think the 9.3x62 is the most balanced hunting cartridge out there. More rifles should be chambered in this caliber! I’m currently looking at the Sako 85 Carbonlight in the cartridge. It seems hard to top!

This cartridge is comparable to the 35 Whelen . Both top performers.

Ruger M77, the best!

Bill converted Dad to the 9.3, and Dad converted me. It did everything I asked if it in Africa, from a fine kudu down to a baboon. Such a great cartridge and that Ruger African shoots great

Compared to the 35 Whelen, the 9.3x62 case has about 7 or 8 % more powder capacity, and the .366 bore has about 5% more area than the .358 for the gases to push against. So in a strong action, the 9.3 can be loaded to 4000 ft lbs of ME. The 9.3 also has a faster twist to stabilize bullets to 300 or more grains.

Thanks for another episode guy!

Cool rifles and great video as always keepem coming guys!!!

Thank you to two great icons in the shooting sports. Very nice video.

Good show. Thanks fellas.

The Ruger Model 77, the 9.3x62mm cartridge and Nosler Partitions... what's not to like?

Great video, great cartridge, great rifle

Great cartridge and rifle combo.

Just picked up a Ruger 77 Hawkeye African in 9.3 x 62, not sure if it's the desirable model you're discussing but it will certainly suit me.

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

It's a 9.3x62 - nothing more needs to be said!! 😊👍

With 293 TUG bullet it is well known for efficient work onhuge Saltwater crocs and maneating Royal Bengal Tiger's , 300 Swift is perhaps one of best big game bullets for it besides Woodleihgh.

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

Woodleigh 286gr RNSPs are outstanding bullets!!

@anders-krarup

Жыл бұрын

320 grain norma oryx is a very good bonded bullet

love these two guys and the videos my dream one day is to own a wilson combat 1911

Picked up a 9.3x62 last fall- really like so far

I love this segment. Wishing I could meet you Bill I am a Vietnam vet and been around a bit. I had a 7x57 tiger and it was a superb gun. 👍👍👍love to find a 9.3.

That is such a cool rifle. I just had a 375 H&H built on a pre 64 Winchester M70. It shoots sub MOA with federal factory 300 grain blue box.

Hot Damn !!! I got one of the Lipsey run of the 9.3 a few yrs ago. Love it also !!! I don't like any cartridge without a hundred yrs under its belt....lol !!!!!

Good, interesting one about rifles.

Another great video thanks guys. Can I make a suggestion for a future video, I’m sure many of us would love to get a tour of Bill‘s trophy room and maybe some stories on the highlights of some of his African hunts.

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

I note that I didn't see a cape buff.

I got a 7 x57 that I bought in 1975, it's a Steyr Mannlicher Model M Professional. I have shot piles of deer and other games with it over 46 years that I had it. I just load 140 gr Nosler Partitions or 139 gr Hornady SP's over a dose of IMR-4350 in a Winchester Western Case. 6 x 42 mm Leupold Scope. I just redid the mounts Talley rings and bases detachable so I can also add a 2 moa Aimpoint. Of late that has been my sight of choice. I don't shoot far, most of our shots at deer come in at well under 100 yards, at or very close to dark. You can really see the game well with the 6 x 42mm and that is the reason I have it on the gun. No real issues, the only downside is finding an extra magazine for it has been petty much like looking for the gun Grabillo Pincept used to kill Arch Duke Ferdinand. I got other rifles like a Sako 6.5 x 55 that I hunt a lot with too.

@actionjksn

2 жыл бұрын

You might want to try an LPVO illuminated scope sometime. They are mostly used for DMR type rifles but I think they would be great for all around hunting at shorter ranges. They come in 1x6 and 1x8 to 1-10X magnifications.

Wow, this is beyond my knowledge!

Very close To my 35 Whelen . I want a 9.3 now 😂😂

I just heard of this callaber yesterday I swear !

The KZread home of the Grey Goatee 😎

I just watched a video with Ron Spoomer where he was talking about this round. He says pretty much the same things as Bill about it.

Ruger M77 MK2 and Hawkeye are my favorite rifles.

Wilson combat needs to offer a 9.3 × 62 in the AR10 platform.

@66smithra

2 жыл бұрын

The problem there is that the AR-10 platform is designed for short action cartridges. They'd have to design something different than the AR-10 that would be very custom and expensive. Not many long-action AR's have been built.

@ewetho

2 жыл бұрын

Make that a 9.3x62 BAR

@benbowditch9265

2 жыл бұрын

Noreen Firearms, Bn36x is a 30-06 Large+ Frame AR. You could make it happen yourself :) Wilson's waay too busy to try and bring that to market.

@Lure-Benson

Жыл бұрын

@@ewetho Browning makes the Bar and Winchester auto loader rifle in 9.3x62 but it is only sold in Europe

@Lure-Benson

Жыл бұрын

@@66smithra I own a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 which have been my Alaskan guide rifle, but I just finished an AR 10 upper in 375-300 WSM that is a match for the 375 H&H magnum. I build and sell AR 10 uppers in WSM and wildcat cartridges for sale

I was lucky enough to get 1 of 11 Savage 111FC in 9.3x62 w/20" barrel and I love it! I prefer carrying it and my cast bullets are great trigger practice.

Nice Honey badger Bill !

It’s kind of a 35 Whelen +. Closer to a 375 Whelen. Thanks for the compliment to the 358 Win., I really Ike my BLR.

Put a cloth on the stock that is a little wet. Put a iron on low and heat that area it will raise the dents in the wood without hurting the stock. Will need to reseal

The 9,3x62, invented 1905 by Gunsmith Otto Bock, was intented for German Settlers as a cartridge that fits into the Mauser 98 system. The british express rifles or double rifles were to expensive. Today, with light leadfree bullets, you can create loads that have the speed and range for plains game and with the heavy once for buffalo or eland etc. If you need more speed and power the step up is the 9,3x64. The 64 equals the H&H but needs no Magnum rifle system. The only thing is that the brits "order" the absolutely stupid .375 minimum rule. I have a custom 9,3x62,based on a Steyr 1912 system made by a gunsmit here in germany. If I could have only one rifle, thats my joice. From fox to boar and red deer, ending up with moose an buffalo it performes flawless.

I had to click the bell again.

I shoot a Remington woods master model 742 in 30-06 185grain it works for me on deer and hog I was shooting corlock and hitting them through the lungs and heart and they would run away and I would have to find them and to let you know I found them all but I changed rounds to a federal premium and dropped them were they stood. What the heck I said but the federal worked better.

I'm currently building a 31" 35 Whelen. Running Accuracy International 300WM mags = 6+1. 250gr Speer 2453 .422 BC @ 2,900fps MV with RL17.. It'll go neck to neck with the 9.3x62 at a fraction of the cost! 30-06 or .270 Brass works for converting + .358 bullets are way more plentiful/cheap! Need to save all the money I can, to afford a trip to Africa :) But I do mainly hunt with .308 gas guns or 300 HAM'R's. Thanks for sharing Bill & Ken.

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. The 35 Whelen has the same energy but has a much longer point blank range. In my opinion it's a much better plains game rifle.

Not a fan of the Ruger 77 but a huge fan of the 9,3x62. Would love to see Winchester chamber their Model 70 Alaskan in that caliber. The Sauer 100 is the best value out there right now but the 9,3's get snatched up as soon as they come in.

I managed to find a Ruger M77 African 9.3X62 a couple years ago. Still hoping to take it to Africa in a few years.

6mm ARC gas gun for medium sized game loaded with 100g Partition or 103g ELDX. For big game 308 loaded with 165g Partition or 175g Edge TLR is my go too .

Naughty, most Southen African coutries have a minimum legal requirement of .375 for dangerous . Great calibre which has repeatedly proven a reliable stopper for everything when used properly.

@martinstiastny7679

2 жыл бұрын

In Zimbabwe, the 9.3x62 is legal for Cape Buffalo.

@mdd1963

2 жыл бұрын

The 9.3x62 is specifically 'waivered in' as legal in many countries including those with a .375 H&H minimum, however...

@martinstiastny7679

2 жыл бұрын

@@mdd1963 "Waivered in" ??? Before it was Tanzania, the country was Tanganyika. When game laws were formulated, the minimum was the 375 H&H, with the caveat being the 9.3x62 in the hands of an experienced man. Do you people know the history of the 9.3x62 ? It was released in 1905. It was used all over Africa. Many elephant and rhino were taken with the cartridge. Many elephant and buffalo are still taken with it. A waiver ???

@mdd1963

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinstiastny7679 you have a real hard-on against the word 'waiver'? How about just 'written is as legal even if under the .375 H&H standard'? Does that better meet your special language verbage construction litmus test? If so...awesome. If not...well, just guess on what to do from there.

@ewetho

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinstiastny7679 grandfathered in …. Was already known effective…and widespread use… so minimum 375 H&H or you can also use a 9.3x62 in most countries not all

For around the farm 6.5x55. For stuff that needs a little more persuasion, right up to anything on earth, the 9.3x62 is the best gun there is, but if you want to use it at the very upper end, you need to be a real cool hand. And one of the coolest was Don Heath. Here he is seen protecting a photo safari, where they waited till the very last minute, as it turned out the animal fell on him and broke his arm. In his storied careers, Don shot thousand of buffalo and elephant (due to pandemics control operations). While that might be pushing the 9.3, Don felt that for elephant, and in his hands, the next step up would require him to move up to something that had some knock down power, not merely a laser like probe. And on Elephant that would require the 500 Jeffery.

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

True!

The 9.3x64 Brenneke will actually push the same bullet 200+ fps, I have one and I have a 9.3x62 and a .35 Whelen, I prefer the 9.3x64.

@MrPh30

2 жыл бұрын

Find data for 320 Woodleigh and 300 Swift,and you have a very good combination for most to think of.

Interesting. Never heard of the 9.3x62.

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

You're missing out on a SUPERB calibre.

I'll keep my 338/06 285 grain at 2300

Can we get a tour of Bill’s trophy room? And some some stories from his trips to Africa?

Bill looks like the definition of king fudd

Love my.350 rem mag. Prove me wrong. 😂😎

@kevinlewis8137

Жыл бұрын

I was just about to buy a Remington 600 in that caliber a week ago. If it’s there when I get back home next week I think it’s coming home with me.

Well that's a great video and great choices for hunting rifles. However I have to take exception to Bills view of the 35 Whelen, which is 9.1x64 and by many accounts can be loaded up to have even more energy then the 9.3 but uses slightly lighter faster bullets. The real benefit of the Whelen is its versatility due to the thousands of bullets available for handloading in 356,357, & 358, where the 366 is a bit of an odd duck reducing choice down to a few dozen choices almost all of which are over 250 gn. I can see the benefit of the 9.3 in Africa due to it being legal for dangerous game in many European colonized countries where it is grandfatheed-in, that the American Whelen is not. The Whelen however is a better, flatter shooting long-range large plaines game rifle with the same amount of punch up close. Both can easily be loaded up to over 3700 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle.

Hmmm not a Wilson barrel on the m77

Created by Otto Bock, Berlin especially for German settlers in Africa. Produced by Paul Mauser in series for standard Mauder 98 systems nearly 1910 for general purpose for every African game. After WW I swifly the British administation created a new rule because of big game hunting rifle about 9,5 mm allowed only. This rule had pushed the famous .375 H&H and whipe out the very best german cartridge from market. I've shooten some rifles, all of them copies of the orign Mauser system, any other modern Straight pull closeures too. No Sir. Norbert Klups wrote, ,,the Mauser system is the best choice. Safe, precise, reliable in every harsh conditions. I own some Mauser rifle, others I don't need !

Ken said we feel real bad for you having to shoot all those deer LMAO.

The Mediums are awesome. I have 358 Win, a 338 RCM - which is a honey, and a Ruger #3 in 375 H&H. Mediums are the ticket for Elk here in Oregon.

(.3x62 is equal power wise to the 375 ruger. both are 30-06 length and power wise. the 0.3x62 uses a .366 bullet versus 375 in the ruger.

@borkwoof696

2 жыл бұрын

No, they‘re not equal power wise. The 9.3 doesn’t quite generate 5.000J while the .375 Ruger can go up to 6.500J.

I have a M77 338 win mag. I recently picked up a M77 458 win mag barrel. Will the 458 barrel fit my 338 action

I’d like to see Kens favourite hunting rifle

According to all my books the 9.3 is not more than a .35 Whelen. None of my books show the 9.3 loading my favorite 225 grain bullet which will produce more energy than the 285.

@MrPh30

6 ай бұрын

Look up Woodleigh manual ,data for 320 grain there as heaviest .

Ok people how many times a year do you shoot the 9.3x62, also how many shots do you do 20 or 30. walhanger

What is the best twist rate for the 9.3x62?

Very interesting guys, wouldn't have guessed that one! Like to see it chambered in an AR!! ? LoL

@D--5

Жыл бұрын

An m1 Garand would be pretty easy to do in 9.3x62, that would be a beast

35 Whelen is much cheaper and more versatile

The 9.3 x 62 is almost the same ballistically as my .35 Whelen.

What caliber on the AR?

@subterfusion4005

2 жыл бұрын

.308

I like to have a mannlicher stock one 9.3x62 m 77

@Idahoguy10157

2 жыл бұрын

Erron Williams…. Considering a CZ 550 with a full length stock 9.3x62.

@erronwilliams1431

2 жыл бұрын

I like cz to

Oh, man - you killed that poor lion!!??

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

Go watch "A conservationist's cry" here on YT and LEARN something before you dribble faecal matter!! But it's very amusing that you are upset at legally and sustainably hunted game? Yet you've NEVER had an issue with the 1000's of captive-bred animals slaughtered DAILY at your LOCAL abattoir? 🤔 (You've just been proven a rank HYPOCRITE asshole. 😉👍)

My Ruger M77v in .220 Swift, loaded to shoot at 4160 fps can defeat most modern armor. But not very good for small game.

Bullseye!

“There are no fleas on the 9.3’s” -Unknown

Sales men

I wouldn't buy a NEW Ruger if somebody paid me to...I worked there

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you "worked" there - past tense - so you don't work there now. That's probably why they got rid of you, and why Ruger quality has since surged ahead sweetie!! 😘👍

I would use a ruger uf ut did not gave that basterized safety

I have been a long-time advocate of Bill and Wilson. However, when I see that he's taking down highly threatened African animals such as Leopards and Lions I lose a lot of respect.

@MrPh30

2 жыл бұрын

No they are not highly endagered at all,that is ara propaganda, they are rising in numbers in many africqn countries,,conteolling their number is a best way to prevent reducrion in the number aswell as giving them value and limiting the risk for maneaters and locals wiping them out .

@tim7052

2 жыл бұрын

Go watch "A conservationist's cry" here on YT and LEARN something before you dribble faecal matter!! But it's very amusing that you are upset at legally and sustainably hunted game? Yet you've NEVER had an issue with the 1000's of captive-bred animals slaughtered DAILY at your LOCAL abattoir? 🤔 (You've just been proven a rank HYPOCRITE asshole. 😉👍)

@chemicalcowpoke307

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, You really need to understand the economics of big game and wildlife in Africa before you comment on hunting. If these animals are not valued for hunting they will be poached illegally without any protection.