The Royal Letter Heist - Downton Abbey
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After an inappropriate letter from the prince is taken, the Crawleys figure out a plan to retrieve it. But will it work?
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Lady Mary without hesitating: "I'll do it; I don't mind lying." And the look that her mother gives her. 😆
@turtlemama888
Жыл бұрын
The Dowager at one point tells Tom he's a terrible at lying, and how she couldn't have done what she needed i her life if she couldn't lie. She taught Mary well.
@susanmann5286
Жыл бұрын
Exactly!😅
@gwen7205
11 ай бұрын
😂 sometimes I just love Mary
@MonkyPocks01
7 ай бұрын
I’ve never noticed her side eye the countless times I’ve watched this show to completion. Thank you for this!! ❤❤
@alonenjersey
6 ай бұрын
Jeez she was quick w/ that statement.
Bates is a manly man. Keeps his opinions to himself, has a lot of interesting skills, unswervingly loyal, big heart, and gets the job done quietly and efficiently. Got himself a sweet and lovely wife too.
@12classics39
Жыл бұрын
@@kachi9293Bates was meant to be with Anna and Baxter was meant to be with Molesley!
@duckduckgoismuchbetter
9 ай бұрын
@@kachi9293 Opposites attract in both of these cases.
@duckduckgoismuchbetter
9 ай бұрын
@@jimmyjohnsonjnr You are reported to KZread for being repulsive and spreading repulsive disinformation in the comment columns. Cheers!
@alonenjersey
6 ай бұрын
What caught my eye about Bates is just how much he reminds me of myself. And I say that with shear humbleness.
@comradeleppi2000
6 ай бұрын
@@alonenjersey ur wife is lucky bro
This was one of my favorite scenes, just the false innocence of Bates "So the man is here in London" "He is, my lord", is enough to make the scene.
@ErisRising
7 ай бұрын
And just the millisecond pause he takes to phrase it.
@North_West1
3 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure Lord G knew but to polite to to “accuse” Bates.
"You can't steal something that's already been stolen." I love that line!
@NemisCassander
Жыл бұрын
Obviously the statement as is would be incorrect, but the sentiment was correct: It wouldn't be called stealing if you are trying to recover stolen property for its rightful owner. And, as that is exactly what the Downton people were trying to do, as they said, 'it is all strictly aboveboard'.
@yevgeniyaleshchenko849
9 ай бұрын
@@NemisCassander Right, but who asked you to explain the obvious? Everyone here understands this, mate.
@puffeiffer
8 ай бұрын
Tell THAT to O.J. Simpson who went to prison for that very thing.
@hananelmarlowe
2 ай бұрын
He never went to prison but he's dead though. @@puffeiffer
@puffeiffer
2 ай бұрын
@@hananelmarlowe Are you acting stupid? Or is this synaptic misfire real? He went to prison for 9 YEARS, dear. For trying to rob a dealer of memorabilia Simpson claimed had been stolen from him. He, too, argues he couldn’t be stealing something which had already been stolen from him. The court and the laws disagreed.
Don't you just love Mr. Bates? Smooth, cool and loyal.
@michaelowens6572
Жыл бұрын
But he conveniently "happened" to be in London. LOL
@alonenjersey
6 ай бұрын
What's not to love?
Superbly done. Bates was able to use all the techniques he had learnt in his shady past - forging, pick-pocketing, to save the Prince of Wales. I love the story-line. Very clever. Very well done.
@rheailiarome2287
Жыл бұрын
He didn't have a shady past. He took the blame for his wife thieving and after he was in prison, because he was falsely accused of murdering her. How lucky for Prince Edward the useless, that Bates had learned a thing or two.
@jimduffy7199
Жыл бұрын
@@rheailiarome2287 If you are a skilled pickpocket and forger, by definition you had a shady past. You don't get classes in those skills just by being in prison and you don't perfect them by getting a class. You perfect them by plenty of usage. He admitted to Robert that he had a shady past, and that wasn't what happened with his wife's thieving. It was after he left prison . He told Robert he slipped into shameful behaviour. Robert and Mary knew more than they said explicitly. Both clearly knew in the glances they gave that Bates was the forger, and had taken the letter. They each played a game. They pretended they didn't know while knowing, though pretending to believe there was a forger 'friend''. Bates pretended not to know that they knew. It is a standard trick over something illegal, criminal or dodgy. Everyone puts on the innocent act in their conversations while all know the truth, and all know the other side knows they know.
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
Жыл бұрын
@@rheailiarome2287 you mean Edward the Traitor King
@flyboy152
Жыл бұрын
Prison was an education. 😀
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
Жыл бұрын
@@flyboy152 no wonder "school" is a euphemistic term kkkk
What a stroke luck that the forger just happens to be in London
@m.layfette6249
Жыл бұрын
In London. In the House. In the Drawing room.
"So the man is here in London" 😂😂 HE SURE IS!
I miss downton. Need to binge watch it again from the start.
@innercircle341
Жыл бұрын
Its on ITV3
@KLowe-of5yz
Жыл бұрын
I think the same thing every time I see these little snippets. Love them. 😊
@davidknowles3459
Жыл бұрын
@@innercircle341 It's on Netflix as well
@CountryChloDoh
Жыл бұрын
@@KLowe-of5yz yes! I’m forever watching the snippets 😂 just need to start over again….. then again….. then again.
@KLowe-of5yz
Жыл бұрын
@@CountryChloDoh I even have a Downton Folder and I keep the snippets I really like, so I can watch them over again. LOLOL.
I really love how Bates has all this criminal intelligence but only uses it for good things, highly loyal and decent.
I love this story especially Bates putting on the coat.
Mary was dissing his rooms but I was like “they’re kinda fancy. What a nice apartment”.
@samanthasmith61
Жыл бұрын
me too I don't get it 😂 but then they are lord and ladies lol and live in huge mansion
@SMunozDB7
Жыл бұрын
It does look like an old soul dream apartment at first glance but if you look at it closely youll notice the wallpaper is all crunched up, the lamps are barely throwing light and the centerpiece is a playing table. It shows the true sketchy nature of the guy.
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
Жыл бұрын
those are called "townhouses", and everyone up the social ladder (mostly the aristocracy and the titled nobility including the royals) had one when they were in London during the Season (e.g. the Tons of the "Bridgerton" franchise, Grimmauld Place in the "Harry Potter" film series) otherwise, they were often found at their country estates (at which Downton classifies as one)
@staciecarrel4492
Жыл бұрын
It’s not that he has an apartment that they’re talking about. They were looking at the card table covered with marked cards and that he apparently spends all his time learning to be a better cheat. Also that he portrays himself as a wealthy gentleman with money, but really only has any funds at all through card cheating and blackmailing.
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
Жыл бұрын
@@staciecarrel4492 ooh didn't get that part, thanks for that
I liked the way Mr Bates worked as he is a cool customer,and in this case,had more brains than his Lordship and more quick thinking
Every household should have a servant as cunning and crafty as Bates. I love his bland looks and inscrutable face.
Brilliant! Bates to the rescue using his excellent “street skills” and “street smarts” -once mastered never lost !
Bates, one of my most favourite characters in Downton.
👍👌👏 Bates, cool as ice! A hell of a guy.
Most ppl talk about the younger cast members of downtown, but without "Robert" the series nor the movies would be a success. Thank you Mr. Bonneville for playing the lead as Robert Crawley you're one classy guy. America sends warm wishes
@yevgeniyaleshchenko849
9 ай бұрын
Actually, most people talk about Maggie Smith who is obviously not the young cast, and in general people talk about EVERYONE in the main cast, young and older. If you're talking about Robert, it's worth saying that Cora is also the crucial element of the appeal of the show, as well as the actress.
Anyone would be Blessed to have a Friend like Mr. Bates😊
@m.layfette6249
4 ай бұрын
With friends like Bates... enemies are few and far between.
It always bothered me how they didn’t thank and appreciate Bates enough.
Always love the look Cora gives Mary after she says she doesn’t mind lying. Loving but also ‘what have I raised?’
Given the destiny of Edward VIII, this whole storyline was inspired.
@avak1968
6 ай бұрын
The writers were so prescient!
@boredlawyer3382
Ай бұрын
I think later Robert makes a comment that the prince might get himself in trouble again, but at least the Crawley family won't be involved. That was foreshadowing.
It was wise of Bates not to let the family in on all his less-than-savory skills. They'd ultimately end up worrying about what he may've been up to and be unnecessarily suspicious of him whenever something happened.
@JS-fe8sx
Жыл бұрын
I think they knew exactly how he got it.
@NemisCassander
Жыл бұрын
@@JS-fe8sx I think the Earl had suspicions, and Mary very clearly didn't believe the cover story. So I'd say Mary knew, at least.
@JS-fe8sx
Жыл бұрын
Bates told the Earl how he got it, out of the "gentleman's" inside breast pocket, so there was no doubt on the Earls part
@vitisxvinifera
11 ай бұрын
I love how his tactic is the classic “I know a guy.” Sure, he “knows” a guy who can forge documents…
@yevgeniyaleshchenko849
9 ай бұрын
Lol, no. They understood perfectly well what was going on. That's just how those things are done - without spelling it out.
Bates is such a great character 😁
I always thought that Robert knew exactly what he was saying and who he was saying it to.
A little James Bond in Bates
That was a great episode, definitely one of my favorites!
What would the Crawleys do without Mr. Bates.
I love Mary's gasp at 8:06.
@QueerOkie
2 ай бұрын
We don't often see Lady Mary speechless like that!
It's always useful to have a "made man" available when you need one 😉
You wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of Bates, he's got hidden talents
My absolute favorite episode ❤
Downton Abbey is my favorite show. Julian Fellowes has to be the world's best script writer for period pieces. Love, Love, Love, Downton Abbey, also, the quality of acting is bar none
@EleanorofAquitaine42
10 ай бұрын
Doctor Thorne is my favorite of his work beside Downton. Amazing casting and scripting.
Good ole Bates he has a skill or two. Was wise of him to not let on to Cora or Lord Granhum. I think Mary caught on. Bates is honest & loyal knows what side his bread is buttered on. Love this episode 🎉❤😊🎉❤😊😅
Luckily they were able to retrieve the note and at absolutely no point in the future did the prince at any point got stuck in any controversial scandal...
@huascar66
Жыл бұрын
Surely, you jest.
@l.a.3479
11 ай бұрын
*get
One of the best scenes,I will always call Bates "sticky finger Bates"
"I'll be sorry if he means to revives the ways of his Grandpa-pa, winking at every beauty in a Opera box." In the Royal family, the apple never falls far from the orchard.
@neilgerace355
Жыл бұрын
Hindsight is great, isn't it!
@jamesfracasse8178
Жыл бұрын
Current 👑!
@m.layfette6249
Жыл бұрын
@@neilgerace355 "If I were to search for logic, I would look for it among the English upper class." 😂🤣
@m.layfette6249
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesfracasse8178 More like King Charles' Great-great-great Grandfather on his mother's side. (Queen Victoria's eldest son Bertie (King Edward VII))
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
Жыл бұрын
I mean, during Bertie's coronation his mistresses (headed notably by Lillie Langtry, then Lady de Bathe (2nd marriage for her, 1st for Baronet Hugo); Alice Keppel, coincidentally Queen Camilla's great-grandmother; & Daisy Greville, Countess of Warwick) were seated at a reserved place which was unofficially called "The King's Loose Box"
Robert Crawley, 7th Earl of Grantham is indeed a loyal servant of the crown. Moved heaven and Earth to protect the crown, enlisted his own loyal people to assist and did all of that without the Prince having any idea it was happening.
"Do you want the heir to the throne to be lampooned across the world with a story that will never sleep even when he's safely crowned and married to a foreign princess?" - well, that didn't age well now, did it?
Poor dumb Rose did not 'get it' but of course Mary was right on the button!
Bates is straight street!
“it must be a lonely job” “all the public want is a happy marriage at the palace. Is it so much to ask?” “you can’t steal something that’s already been stolen” 😂 the lines of them 😂
@naobe5
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, especially in light of what will happen In the future....Wallis Simpson, the abdication.... Charles and Diana....
@QueerOkie
2 ай бұрын
@naobe5 at least we got Bertie and Elizabeth and Edward and Sophie.
WOW... THAT WAS SOME GREAT ACTING......I WAS TOTALLY RIGHT THERE IN THE SCENE. LOVE IT.❣️ 🌹🫶 BRAVO 👏 👏 👏
It was sad they didn't Bring back Lady Rose in the Downton Abbey Movie
@angelabby2379
6 ай бұрын
lily James said she wanted to, but was denied because they don't have enough screentime 😂to add her
@flyboy152
10 күн бұрын
The cast was already very large, they didn’t need more characters with bit parts.
He makes a mistake here: he says you can't steal something that already been stolen- uh, duh, yes you can. I just love Bates. He's matter of fact, to the point, not in the slightest ashamed at what has to be done. Capital!
@patpeters6331
Жыл бұрын
That was Roberts rationalization for getting the letter back. He knew better.
@harringt100
Жыл бұрын
Well, I think he simply means that if you retrieve a stolen item to return it to its rightful owner, your actions are morally justified. And it's hard for me to disagree. I guess the moral ideal would be to convince the thief to give it back, but that doesn't seem likely in this case.
Fantastic story
I never picked up on Bates actually being the forger before...
5:43- It's wild that to them that's a drab apartment. To anyone today, that's a palace. Also, as kind and loving as Bates is, it's a delight to watch his efficient skills at work.
John Bates: thug, pickpocket, forger .. is there anything he can't do?
@turtlemama888
Жыл бұрын
And incredibly loyal employee and husband. All in all a great combination
Bates is the man!
You'd think he'd discretely check his coat pocket soon after putting on his coat.
How does Bates know what they're looking for? For all he knew he could have just lifted a completely innocent letter and caused a really awkward situation. He knew they were trying to get into the apartment, but not why. They could have been after anything.
@harringt100
Жыл бұрын
That was what confused me. Maybe he overheard something that's not made clear in the episode?
@12classics39
Жыл бұрын
Robert probably told him offscreen. He trusts Bates.
@TheFranzi0309
11 ай бұрын
If it qas something innocent, they could have found it afterwards because it fall out of his cote
@PermenBoba-dq3jb
7 ай бұрын
he wasn't illiterate... if it's something innocent they can just play the excuse card and said it was dropped when the hall boy put away his coat
Lovely
Just to think if it wasn’t for Bates Edward VIII would have been found out sooner and the whole abdication crisis of 1936 might have been avoided!!
@harringt100
Жыл бұрын
It's not like people didn't know the Prince of Wales was a playboy at this stage. They just hoped he would eventually grow up and marry someone who his ministers and the public could accept as Queen. (That and nobody had any choice in who would succeed to the throne. So the only way of "avoiding" the abdication crisis would have been him smartening up.)
@flyboy152
10 күн бұрын
@@harringt100People in high society knew, but in those days, the English papers did not write stories that would embarrass the monarchy, so most of the public were unaware of his dalliances.
The whole show is SO AMAZING 👏 I enjoyed every second of it, and the two movies too!!! Look at the Ladies, their outfits, the hair, AMAZING!!!
“Even when he’s safely crowned and married to a foreign princess” eesh that didn’t work out
Was thinking about this episode just a few hours ago. 😂
Lucky they didn't have scanners or photocopying machines yet. 😅
Smooth. Bates IS the forger also.
This scene between Lord Graham and Bates is interesting. I sometimes think they did more during the war then fight together. I always like to think that Bates and Robert know Bates' talents so to speak but don't tell the others.
@flyboy152
10 күн бұрын
When Bates served with Robert in South Africa, he hadn’t acquired most of his criminal skills yet.
Good old Bates, not a man to get on the wrong side of 👍❤️
Oh my, the poor, poor royal heir.
Who thinks Bates would make a fine master criminal?
That ‘see you upstairs’ was ‘buhdass,’ as my father would say.
8:06 is so much fun!!!
Grantham's Eleven.
so satisfying :)
The downstairs crew is quite a devious and diverse bunch. You got a gay man, a (formerly) near-blind woman who is also a B&B owner, an heiress to a farm, a former stage performer, a jewel thief (or at least an accomplice), and a highly skilled convicted felon - who is married to a woman who helped STAGE A DEAD BODY. How has nobody made an anime fanfic of Downton Abbey?
The things you can learn in prison might become useful one day 🤣🤭☹️
I think our Mr. Bates has a sordid past we don't know about. 😆
@ayameisastar
Жыл бұрын
Really? I thought the implication is that he learned it all when he was in prison for the murder of his wife.
@SISSYKAY
Жыл бұрын
@@ayameisastar Yes that was Mr. Bates implication.
@marchess286
Жыл бұрын
Bates also served a stretch prior to the start of Season 1 for theft of regimental silver (actually stolen by his then wife). He served in the British Army for, I would guess, about 10 years, enlisted in Robert's regiment (Guards) including 2d Boer War service. He was, as the Duke of Wellington put it, "a man of his hands".
@flyboy152
10 күн бұрын
@@ayameisastarHe wasn’t in prison that long for Vera’s murder. It’s more likely he learned his skills when he was in prison for two years before he came to Downton.
Does Bates get a raise ?
Bates...by far was the most dangerous person in that house!
🙂 💙
Umm gon
Tony Gilliam seems spoiled and whiny.
7:17 anachronism: the term Whodunit hadn’t been coined yet.
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
Жыл бұрын
when was it coined
@Geellun
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ix1rp9ff3p WhoDunIt" was coined by News Of Books reviewer Donald Gordon in 1930, in his review of the detective novel "Half-Mast Murder" written by Milward Kennedy.
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
Жыл бұрын
@@Geellun what year was this scene set in?
@Geellun
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ix1rp9ff3p 1922
@valeria-militiamessalina5672
Жыл бұрын
I think they couldn't resist having Maggie Smith make an allusion to _Gosford Park_ in which she was indeed "trapped" in the cast of a "WhoDunIt" as Constance, Countess of Trentham. That film was set in 1932 indeed.
Dodgy lot, how very cheeky. Unscrupulous thoroughly unscrupulous. Haha
Cheaters always cheat.
They just started repeats on ITV3. I'm watching S01 E02 as I type. The Crawley's are just having dinner with the family. Mary, mooooooookow
I’ve seen the whole series. I don’t member any of this.
What happened when the guy found out the women had been in his rooms?
@flyboy152
10 күн бұрын
He had no way of knowing who’d been there unless he thought to question the porter.
Camilla gate wasn't so original after all
lol even Robert knows the limitations of involving the "Dowager Queen of Sass" also Cora doesn't know how to properly pronounce bourgeois?? when her maiden family practically belongs to such??
@hrantgeorge2444
Жыл бұрын
What time frame does Cora say this?
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
Жыл бұрын
@@hrantgeorge2444 @3:23
@hrantgeorge2444
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ix1rp9ff3p That would be Burgle. "..the idea of you two setting off to Bourgeois his flat..." makes no sense.
@user-ix1rp9ff3p
Жыл бұрын
@@hrantgeorge2444 thanks, never thought of that...
This plot line was when the show jumped the shark
@SueProst
Жыл бұрын
Well it may not say much for me, but I enjoyed it.
@m.layfette6249
Жыл бұрын
Jump the shark..."Have you changed your pills?"
@Nyx773
Жыл бұрын
@@m.layfette6249 Touché
@naobe5
Жыл бұрын
@@m.layfette6249 🤣🤣
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