Something I'd love to hear some responses to: I often get into...debate, on here, about wokeness and the supposed SJW-ness of modern action cinema. I don't hide my opinions, and as long as it is not overtly offensive I don't mind if those who disagree with me do too. For those who don't know, I do not agree in any way that Hollywood is somehow being diluted by gender-diverse voices. Even if I think having more diverse voices in any genre of film is a good thing, action cinema is still massively male dominated in front of and behind the camera. We just had a new Rambo. Hobbs & Shaw came out with Fast Nine next, John Wick is only getting more successful, men dominate the comic book boom and Mission: Impossible and Bond are more successful than ever. That's not to mention all the very-much male dominated DTV work we get on the regular. Terminator: Dark Fate is directed, written and produced by an almost entirely male team, but ignoring that, Terminator has always been celebrated for its strong female characters. So I would love to get some genuine insight into why quite a few of the comments on this video are decrying its supposed SJW/wokeness (or reliance on female characters) as a negative? I sort of get why people might (erroneously in my opinion) complain about say, a Ghostbusters reboot with women, but complaining about Terminator having strong women characters seems crazy to me.

@Rossatron

4 жыл бұрын

@Tracchofyre I find these views bizarre. I don't even know what you mean about the "transexual appearance"...honestly which character are you even referring to? The Terminator that has...shortish hair? What is artificial about what it is doing too? Are you suggesting that just because they have cast hispanic actors (in a film series that has been often based around desert areas with hispanic characters) it is artificial, so if the women were white it would be fine? Basically to me it seems you are unhappy as the film doesn't fit *your* ideals of what a woman *should* be, and you felt the originals treated the women characters just as motherly so they work better (which is a judgement about a film you have not seen)?

@Ixiah27

4 жыл бұрын

Sure, i love strong female Characters, but the Point is: No one is there to stop People from WRITING Strong female Characters. So, where are they ? Because when i see a new Show/Movie priding itself on its "diversity" and "strong female Characters/LGBTQ" thats not a sign to be interested in the show, its a warning signal. The people who try to sell a show or movie on that message seem to be universitaly blind to the fact that this isnt the one trait that makes a good Show/Movie. They already put in all their effort in filling the Race/sex quota, why try hard with a script or Castings, finding a Director with a Vision ? If the movie is bad, who cares, as long as it follows the imaginary political correctness line, it will get good Reviews, so why waste Money.

@Loeildechat

4 жыл бұрын

If you can't see how blatent the problem is just by watching the trailers they put out, I'm sorry but no one can help you there. And here I thought Rossatron what someone able to think properly and see the meaning behind certain movie stuff... Hasta La Vista, as he once said.

@KrogunDK

4 жыл бұрын

To me it's quite simple. If you create a piece of fiction, with conscious political messaging. In other words propaganda. Chances are that the art will suffer for it. They are probably some great fiction out there with overt and conscious political messaging that are great. I just can't really think of any. I do not know to which degree the creators of the original script of these "woke" movies were motivated by an agenda or not, but the final product of is. The marketing department, a big part of the media is certainly pushing their views on the audience, and happens to such a degree, that it often muddies the waters. It's so difficult to "reset expectations", when Dark Fate is being marketed and hyped around (purposefully or not) as a feminist man-hating girl power movie. There are too many reasons to not go and waste your money on Dark Fate. The track record is terrible, chances are it's going to be a dissapointing experience. I don't care about this movie AT ALL. It reeks of desperation, and it's marketiong push is down right off-putting and toxic.

@doctormid-nyte5483

4 жыл бұрын

To be perfectly honest, some of the people Complaining about how Dark Fate is Woke down here just sound like sexist, ignorant fanboys.

No one gonna talk about how this is extremely well edited?

@pleasmarryme

4 жыл бұрын

Got me pumped

@robertlocke5614

4 жыл бұрын

This video kicks all sorts of ass. This was a great nostalgic trip from my childhood growing up and watching these movies.

‘If we don’t win this one, it’s all over’. That couldn’t be any more relevant for Terminator right now, considering the string of bad - average sequels, this being the first film in years with Cameron on board in some capacity, and the supposed trilogy this could start only *if* it’s successful.

@pgplaysvidya

4 жыл бұрын

well i guess we lost, cuz this looks like garbage

@nosfonader8792

4 жыл бұрын

Dave-K Yeah 🤣 Self aware movie is self aware. Just like with Suicide Squad tagline: We Need Them Bad!

@TheDRODOR

4 жыл бұрын

Well Cameron supported Genysis...

@Amy-J

4 жыл бұрын

OrganismoPerfecto Here’s something to bear in mind about that though; If a filmmaker praises a film on their own accord (Edgar Wright on Twitter is a good example) then it’s feasibly genuine. If a filmmaker is called in by a studio (paramount) to watch an unspecified number of minutes and talk positive so his words can be used for that studio’s promotional video, something’s off.

@lbogdan1769

4 жыл бұрын

At this point they're just beating a dead horse

Terminator 2 will always be one the greatest movies ever made.

@duggiedug9148

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Linda was in T3 if it would have been a pretty good movie. She hasn't aged well, it throws me off

@empirezz2728

4 жыл бұрын

Joker is

all these Terminator films with better and smarter Terminators each time & Skynet still hasn't figured out how to teleport a Terminator with a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.

@TEMINIX

4 жыл бұрын

Ohhhh you win. You freaking win the internet.

@DaScorpionSting

4 жыл бұрын

Well it just has to figure out how to get it become part of a terminator similar to the TX having its own weaponry

@macktheripper7454

4 жыл бұрын

As a lifelong terminator fan i would say you have an excellent point but my rebuttal would be : sending a terminator is the primary objective and nothing else is nearly as important. If that fails then weapons don’t matter, plus as we saw in t2 (when Arnie is nearly dead) he has a massive database of schematics for a variety of weapons. Meaning that whenever he’s sent back he can use them for the desired outcome. Peace ✌️

@TechnologicallyTechnical

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't the TX have something like that?

@paulwright5064

4 жыл бұрын

I suppose you could wrap a plasma rifle up in living tissue grown for the cyborgs and chuck it in there with the Endo on its journey to 1984, no problemo. 😵

There is no road to Dark Fate The road ended in Judgment Day

@Bow-to-the-absurd

4 жыл бұрын

there was a T800 arm left in the foundry also , perhaps Skynet sent back more than 1 terminator in 1991....

@kmarsu

4 жыл бұрын

No, the road kept going, literally. Haven't you seen the original ending with Sarah's voice-over.

@explicitw8657

4 жыл бұрын

Damn straight

@seyeolajuyin

4 жыл бұрын

Amen brother

@gmusic3940

4 жыл бұрын

Hey you're entitled to your opinion and don't have to see the movie. Just don't expect not to say anything. We will defend this Terminator movie. It just sad that people judge and haven't even watched the movie. Even supposedly Terminator fans are just being so freaking negative.

T1 - I'll be back Terminator: Dark Fate - Ow my back

@mrblonde609

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty original. Remember that line from "Celebrity Deathatch" 20 years ago.

@siranonymous1433

4 жыл бұрын

Stolen comment.

Man, bad ass editing!

"Here we go again...again..."

@ecurb_shmoe

4 жыл бұрын

Who left the fridge open?

@denver7324

4 жыл бұрын

Observe God's mistake !

It's unfortunate that everyone's negating the TV show, Sarah Connor Chronicles because it's shockingly brilliant. It takes the existing Terminator mythology and isn't afraid to explore complex and thought provoking themes. The worst part of the show wasn't that it was cancelled, but knowing that most Terminator fans never gave it a chance. It not only compliments Cameron's work brilliantly, but also enhances it, and that as you know is near impossible.

@UnreasonableOpinions

4 жыл бұрын

It is a genuinely excellent series with some very strong points that manages to singlehandedly undo almost every single bit of quality writing and tension in the last five minutes of the last episode with the single worst ending to a season of anything I have ever seen or even heard of in my entire life, and I actively seek out sabotage episodes. The last five minutes of the last episode are so shockingly bad; systematically eliminating most of the genuinely interesting characters, cutting off literally every single plot point they had worked on unresolved, and even overthrowing the fundamental premise of the series. It's so astonishingly bad I can't believe that it was made by someone in genuinely good faith, nor even the result of someone deliberately phoning it in. An ending so comprehensively betraying its own franchise feels like it could have only been the result of intentional, dedicated sabotage - and yet that seems so unlikely as to be nearly impossible. It's a complete waste of the piece of the Terminator franchise that had the most room to be quiet and let things stir, to go into the ethics and the logistics of the war they're fighting, and to look at the human characters in their downtime. Also, some of the best time travel plots on TV, though that is a very very low bar.

@pannychanman

4 жыл бұрын

@@UnreasonableOpinions I saw something where the plan was to continue to follow both the present and future. I was really interested to see where they'd go with the massive change.

This trailer will be better than the movie. :P

This video gives me goosebumps. I've watched it like 10 times. Perfect editing, that goes along with the timeless score. Something emotional and sad about it. I think it goes beyond just humanities destruction, but our will to stay human, by finding love, and protecting those we do.

I could just imagine the opening of T2 as a giant metaphor of the franchise with the park beeing a happy and playful place to live and be with the kids, like most of us in the 90s with the two terminator movies (sure they were movies for adults but we didn't care), and then suddenly flash forward to present day when "judgment day" happen (or how I would like to call it terminator genesys, to me both rise of the machines and salvation were the just the planes before dropping the nuclear explosion ) and you se nothing but destruction and devastation causing the sences of misery and sadness with the fate we got that we couldn't written.

Did you watch Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles TV series? It was really good, though not very action-packed.

wow, this got me exited for the new movie way more than the trailers for it! Great job Rossatron

The editing in this is excellent. Really really well done. Thanks for the goosebumps.

God, Salvation had so much potential and it shines through most of its runtime

@azard3

4 жыл бұрын

Rob Jordan agreed bro :(

@uglyweirdo1389

4 жыл бұрын

I've almost NEVER seen intelligent criticism of the post 2 films. Is Salvation worth seeing?

@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat

4 жыл бұрын

Salvation's first half is legitimately excellent. The second half is asinine. Typical McG debacle.

@uglyweirdo1389

4 жыл бұрын

It's McG? Oh.

@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat

4 жыл бұрын

@@uglyweirdo1389 Christian Bale notoriously blew up on set at the cinemtographer for distracting him. Ironically, Shane Hurbutt's cinematography is the one brag worthy thing to come out of the film. It looks magnificent. It's not - but it looks it.

Great stuff Ross, it sad to see that franchise isn't dead.

A very well edited view of The Terminator timeline using the great epic T2 score by Brad Fidel. T2 still remains the benchmark that the Terminator series has failed to recapture in the 28 years since its release in 1991.

can’t wait for the analysis, man! 😃

The problem with the terminator franchise is that it out grew its format after the 2nd. With each iteration after that,what made the series special gets eroded. The only place the series should have gone after 2 was the war of the purple lasers. The series is tired. The fact that no terminator since could beat a T1000 due to having a physical endoskeleton that could be exploited just shows that they have not thought of a way to top 2. Instead someone goes back in time almost everytime retconning the timeline to shreds and each time diminishes the inherent threat of the terminator. A T1000 was killed in the opening sequence of genysis ffs.

@NerdyPro

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think T3's version was necessarily a down grade. It was probably a bit more specialized and maybe a side grade.

Looking forward to your content and the movie!

Umm no "talk to the hand" in the Terminator 3 section?

This is a film series that just needs to end.

@TechnologicallyTechnical

4 жыл бұрын

It's like forcing an old/tired dog to keep doing needlessly complex tricks

Much excite, looking forward to it

Rossatron you are the man.....the editing on this video bro.........wow

What a ride. Can't wait for Dark Fate.

CAN'T WAIT!!!

You made the average Salvation and Genesys look awesome in this video. Thanks for this

Chills. Absolute fucking Chills. Goddamn I love this dude.

T2 OST alone is more terminator in the feels than all the terminator movies combined after T2. The seriousness and intensity of T2 is so well depicted in this track! What a masterpiece.

AMAZING EDITING!

I wish filming studios would stop making Terminator movies. They should have stopped at the first two films. Each of the sequels after Terminator 2 descends in quality as Hollywood over uses a simple, yet elegant science fiction premise.

@NerdyPro

4 жыл бұрын

I personally think the ending to 3 was a really good segue into one taking place in the future but they didn't roll with its potential.

LOVE THIS!!!

Great mash-up 👏🏾

I'm so excited for the new movie. I expect a review from you Rossatron

Great editing 👍!!!

Awesome! Terminator is one of my favorite movies. Waiting for DARK FATE. Great edition, greetings!

Paramount should use your video as a vignette leading to Dark Fate

After rewatching T2 and T3 truly there is big drop of difference and since arnie and linda is back i have restored faith that the real trilogy called dark fate has returned

Can't wait for the Terminator video!

Good idea Ross, I'm should watch the entire franchise right now.

This theme is epic. Better then the OG theme.

nicely done better than most trailers these days

That’s was an awesome edit

This made me more excited than any of the Dark Fate marketing

Greatest video ever made!

This is great 👍

Salvation was so much better than it gets credit for. It was the first film not to rely on the same plot line. And had some great endoskeleton scenes that were actually practical effects and not cgi

Only one word cant describe my hype for this...............................YYYYYEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

This needs a tv show based in the future already 😕 the Future War needs to be told!

@ConnorMcCartney95

4 жыл бұрын

They nearly did in The Sarah Connor chronicles but it got cancelled, that was their plan for the next season.

@nosfonader8792

4 жыл бұрын

Connor McCartney It still needs to be told instead of this constant “fixed point” going back to the past nonsense

@ConnorMcCartney95

4 жыл бұрын

@@nosfonader8792 would probably cost an insane amount cause it will all be cgi

@macktheripper7454

4 жыл бұрын

This has been a recurring idea of how to really produce a decent 3rd act to the franchise. After hiding out in Mexico during judgement day, the movie could focus around the beginnings of sky net and the resistance with a decent John at the helm.

@nosfonader8792

4 жыл бұрын

Mike theJedi Sounds good, but I’d like them to do a continuation from Salvation. That movie is underrated 😞

Very good

I'll be there opening night... and go from there! I want to see Arnold and Hamilton together on the big screen again

Bro just did a better trailer then any of the other sequels eVer, ecstatic for this One.

This is going to be good.

could've just put up a picture of a downward slope, that would've summed it up quite nicely

No Sarah Connor Chronicles?? :c

This should be the trailer for dark fate. I’m fucking PUMPED!!!!

You are absolutely right,man. Avoid those comment which are criticizing,ruining TDF's( Terminator Dark Fate)images/ reputation. Thanks for telling the right thing. I am grateful. And, God bless you for that. TDF's gonna ROCK like t-1,2.

Quite a love letter-I hope she turns out to be worth it.

0:00 To 0:08 That opening 👌👍

I would expect nothing less from the channel whose profile picture is of a Terminator!

The TV show smokes all the post-T2 sequels yet no one ever talks about it. Legitimately one of my favorite series of all time, even though I'm not a massive fan of the franchise.

Arnold Schwarzenegger the soul of the all films! Without him there will be no reason to watch the movie .. He is sooo amazing .. Like was born for these movie ! Especially the 2nd part .. damn!!!

Unpopular opinion: I'm glad they all exist. Yes even 3, 4 and 5. And I think between 3 and four in this video TSCC deserved a mention. I was never bored by Terminator movie, even the ones that weren't good movies never bored me in the cinema.

For the record-I enjoyed Dark Fate. Nothing hits like the first two, but I had fun with it.

The biggest blockbuster of the year💕💕💕💕💕💕💕

Whats more expensive? cgi or practical effects?

@Rossatron

4 жыл бұрын

It depends massively on the effect and various other things. Spending time setting up a blood effect on set and having to reset it over and over can be far less affordable than just dropping a CG element over the footage. However, filming a real explosion behind actors just once can save hundreds of hours of VFX work for example.

This video made me excited for a movie I know I won't like but hope I'm wrong about.

I'm really not excited for this movie. To me it just seems very generic. I hope I'm wrong and this movie is good but after Genysis I'm not confident.

Ross, are you *really* excited for Dark Fate? There really hasn't been a great Terminator movie since the first two. I thought 3 and Salvation were decent (neither good or bad) but Genysis was just bad... I'm just having a hard time being excited about another movie.

@Rossatron

4 жыл бұрын

I've seen it. My video on it will be out in a few days, but basically whilst I found it flawed, I still enjoyed it and it's definitely the strongest sequel since T2 (which I admit isn't saying much).

@joshmciver4847

4 жыл бұрын

@@Rossatron cool, thanks for the response. I'll be checking it out when I get a chance... and I'll keep an eye out for your video of course!

I'd like to see you do a video on The Equalizer, and it's dissapointing sequal.

Wait that is a troll comment right? You aren't really excited for this movie are you? I mean I guess for being able to make another video about it but you can't actually think it has a chance of being good right?

@Rossatron

4 жыл бұрын

I'm excited for it since it exists, so i may as well be. I love the first two Terminator films very dearly, and though I think the rest don't need to exist so much, if they do I'm gonna see them.

@TGNXAR

4 жыл бұрын

@@Rossatron Fair point. My gripe with the franchise is they have basically rehashed the same story ad infinitum. The latest craze of pushing men out of action franchises for "sronk wahmen" irritates me more, however.

@123myballsitch

4 жыл бұрын

@@TGNXAR nobody cares about your feelings. go find a safe space and cry about it.

@TGNXAR

4 жыл бұрын

@@123myballsitch Do you need a tissue? Should I have given you a trigger warning before posting? Want to have a lie down and some coloring books to take your mind off of your panic?

@123myballsitch

4 жыл бұрын

@@TGNXAR lmfao imagine getting triggered over a fucking movie

i excpected bennie hill music after 2

Salvation and its proposed trillogy (which ended up being concluded with comics) was the only way to continue the franchise. Showing us the future war and why the time travel risk had to be taken by both sides- and this even played well with T3 existence. But just continuing to time travel, adding alternate timelines & replacing creative plots with fan service is just degrading the franchise :/ Oh no. We need to save the Connors again! Is and always will be a creatively bankrupt concept regardless of execution.

@NerdyPro

4 жыл бұрын

There's a comic to salvation? Point me in the right direction please.

The second one has better action and special effects but the first one has better characters, acting, style and flow. Kyle Reece is easily the best human character of any Terminator movie. Arnold is better as a bad guy, this movie made him a household name.

Eeeeeeeee IM REALLY HYPED! I’m calling it right now. Dark fate will either save or kill the terminator franchise.

Please let this one be great.

Yes yes T1 & T2 we the best and yes they should’ve stopped there, but I still liked T3 & TS and think they’re worthy of being canon. I don’t like the idea of DF just deleting those movies.

They played the double of the original movies at the Astor Theatre. People were being sarcastic about it due to the SFX. Might not have helped they played the Luke Million video before it.

But this one is i thought set after T2 isnt it? So what came after that has been scratched off the canon i guess?

@Rossatron

4 жыл бұрын

Supposedly, but this is more just a mash of the films that have led to making Dark Fate and not so much about the storyline.

What's new to say about Terminator? The first two are the best, which one you prefer might vary from person to person. The sequels went downhill fast and is now a series with more bad entries than good, and Dark Fate doesn't look like it'll be messing with that ratio. Seeing Arnold & Linda again is probably supposed to make me feel nostalgic, but seeing them look tired and unenthusiastic in the bits I saw them in just makes me sad and hope the machines win, just to put this series out of its misery.

The real road to terminator dark date: The Terminator; Terminator 2 Judgement Day; Terminator (3) Dark Fate;

1, 2, skip a few...

Can't wait for you analysys. New movie though? Not so much. After 3(!!!) consecutive failed cashgrabs even Cameron's name can't get me excited.

"The future is not set. There is no fate, but we make for ourselves." - Sarah Conner

Please revisit the movie "Virus" from 99. It's rated low on imdb and metacritic, but the cyborg effects are gross. I love that movie.

My peronal ranking for the Terminators: 1 Terminator 2: Fantastic movie (flawless) 2. The Terminator: Excellent movie 3. Terminator 3: It's not great but it's not terrible 4.Terminator Salvation: I liked the idea they were going for but ultimately missed the mark 5. Terminator Gynsisnos: Fuck this movie! 6. Terminator Dark Fate: Yay, I'm looking forward to the new future war of trans-robotic multiracial terminators that hate Republicans and use Russian bots to initiate judgement day.

I thought Sara Connor died of cancer? What did I miss?

1. T2 - amazing favorite movie of all time I've seen this movie so many times my whole life absolutely perfect in every way 2. T1 - great this would probably be my favorite movie if not for t2 I'd say both are worthy of being the best it's just personal choice 3. T3 - I grew up with this movie saw it in theaters as a kid and understand why people hate it see all the problems but still enjoy it for what it is love it 4. Genisys - seeing Arnold back was awesome only reason its better than salvation super disappointed with this movie pure garbage another movie that shouldn't exist 5. Salvation - so many problems with this movie should have never been made waste of time don't get why people say its underrated worst terminator movie by far Dark fate please don't disappoint I'm super excited to watch it!

Dark fate is meant to take place after the first 2

KENNY OMEGA rise of the Terminator

I want Arnold to make Conan the barbarian again

It recently got revealed that Arnold's Terminator is going to have a wife and adoptive son in the movie....fuck....this....shit

Apparently; Rise of the machines, Salvation, Genisys aren't canon in this new one.

The ranking is 1. Terminator 2 2. Terminator

Best Sequel to T2 was The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

I liked them all except Genesis

Dark Fate is a sequel to T2. Its retconning T3 and the others.

Dark Fate is currently tracking to have an opening weekend take in the region of $44 million at the North American box office. That's not good.