The Rival: Fraud of the Monsterverse? (Monsterverse Powerscaling)
First attempt at an explanation video like this, hopefully I’ll do more of them. The MG vs kong video is in development since I wrote it before gxk came out but now wanna make some changes to it
credits to @godzillakingofthemonsters5812 for some of the scans in this
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So, let me get this straight A group of Kongs, had to jump Godzilla, who was so young, he has trouble remembering the whole thing?
@da_phish
12 күн бұрын
you could interpret it like that
@Crimpus123
8 күн бұрын
He really wasn't young still the same godzilla beefing ghidorah
@da_phish
7 күн бұрын
@@Crimpus123 we have no idea weither this happened before or after that
In the godzilla vs kong novelization it was confirmed by Godzilla that he was beefing with the kongs before king ghidorah.
@viper6163
14 күн бұрын
The Kong war and the rival vs Godzilla are two separate things
@CS-my2wp
14 күн бұрын
@@viper6163 I know but I just want to let you know godzilla been beefing with the kongs before king ghidorah. And he fought the rival kong before facing ghidorah
@viper6163
14 күн бұрын
@@CS-my2wp yea he was beefing with kong before ghidorah. but no confirmation for rival v godzilla being before or after ghidorah
@CS-my2wp
14 күн бұрын
@@viper6163 yes he did fought the rival before king ghidorah. It was confirmed by Godzilla
I thought The Rival was the arch enemy of the Jay Garrick Flash.
You say "relative"....but full power Godzilla one shot Tiamat into sushi
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
Meant Physically. he did slice through his skin
@TheBird575
15 күн бұрын
@@viper6163not in gxk
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
@@TheBird575 yes in gxk
@TheBird575
15 күн бұрын
@@viper6163no she didn’t, she wrapped around him, but didn’t pierce his skin That was in dominion when Godzilla was at his lowest
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
@@TheBird575 the novel for gxk states she periced skin
Bros a mecha victim
@Cakes_TheHollowAnalyst
14 күн бұрын
FRRRRRR
@FastModz95
10 күн бұрын
Unironically true.
@Ovken
3 күн бұрын
Godzilla or the rival
@EdmundiumHitting
3 күн бұрын
@@Ovken The Rival.
Godzilla guy try not to spread misinformation challenge: impossible
Before this video, I thought the rival was stronger than a younger ghidorah
The rival, according to Greg Keyes, may also have had a hunting party with him. Blud needed a whole ass group to box with teen Goji while the wojackongs hype this guy up harder than all 8 Kashimo fans hype up Kashimo.
@viper6163
14 күн бұрын
fr 😭
@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666
14 күн бұрын
@@viper6163 I am only sorry for my Kashiphobic statement and that the Kashimo fans caught strays. The wojackongs can go hump a bonobo. I kid, bonobos have standards.
@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666
14 күн бұрын
@@LindenHS-Hillcraft But I just heard him, like deadass in the interview(1:08), say there was a "Group of kongs"("A kong or a group of kongs.") Which is consistent seeing as Godzilla soloed Skar's army in the past. Then again, I have heard of you, you are usually the one in the loop for leaks so feel free to correct me if Keyes truly confirmed that the Rival wasn't with a hunting party.
@LindenHS-Hillcraft
13 күн бұрын
In the past he said only one… but I literally just today found out he did say this in a new interview I hadn’t seen before. Probably a retcon… there’s been a bunch of those lately.
@LindenHS-Hillcraft
13 күн бұрын
Also in the comic Godzilla refers to an individual and never a group. We also see no evidence of multiple individuals, only the one. Also Tiamat killed The Rival and if there were more Kongs then they would have been killed there as well. We see only the remains of the Rival and no other Kongs.
Is it me or ever since GxK the Godzilla and Kong fans have been going at each others throat more and more ( Seems mostly Kong fans at the moment)
@viper6163
11 күн бұрын
There beefing again
@Tonymobb110
8 күн бұрын
It’s true. Before gvk I was on team Godzilla. After noticing their toxicity compared to the way more chill Kong fanbase (at the time) I basically switched because I’ll never support toxicity to that level. Now they’re almost as bad as and I’m just watching it happen from a distance.
@asafakiva1619
8 күн бұрын
yeah it’s something that goes on ever since the hype train for GVK started.. Back in the day the fandom was actually more fun to engage with and all, but now the fact that powerscaling and who’s better is all they talk about took all the fun out of the franchise for me😒 And even tho I tend to view g fans as more toxic, that’s not to say Kong fans don’t have their problematic individuals
@Rhinoxsaurus
8 күн бұрын
@@asafakiva1619 I almost hated GxK because of the fandom
@asafakiva1619
8 күн бұрын
@@Rhinoxsaurus Understandable. I find it nice and like some parts in it, but overall am not that thrilled of the final product. Partly indeed because how it just adds fuel to the fire I just stick to what I already know in the canon and stay away from arguments, because I know how ugly it can get. Heck look at this very video or at the “Godzilla king of the monsters” channel.
YES MY GIRL TIAMAT FINALLY GETS SOME W’S 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥 (Tiamat is the best Kaiju coming from comics that’s original Ong 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥)
Another great MV fact🙏🏽
he didn't confirm that Godzilla got jumped by a bunch of Kong's he said maybe its crazy how so many people downplay the Kong species.
Goji Center said that Godzilla fought Shimo and Ghidorah before Rival but the reason he lost to Rival was because He was inactive for millions years and inactivity can also weaken titans.
@Foc_heisei
6 күн бұрын
Goji Center is NOT reliable at all
For a second I thought this was another lobotomy kaisen video I guess I am the lobotomy kaisen
@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666
14 күн бұрын
Stand proud, you are my special. We're special.
I neg the Rival 🥱
The Rival is overhyped as hell. The fact that people actually think he can beat Skar King is actually ridiculous.
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
Real. People will take anything a big KZreadr says as facts no matter how wrong it is
@ArthurDuarte30
15 күн бұрын
GodzillaGuy fans be like @@viper6163
@thebeast9606
13 күн бұрын
Funny, Kong beat Skar King but has trouble with Godzilla; The Rival beat Godzilla, and NO, he's not "young and inexperienced" because he fought in the Titan War and battled Ghidorah, so Godzilla was STILL more experienced and very powerful, so stop making excuses. Also, how in the HELL would Godzilla only remember one Kong, but he remembers all of the other titans he fought??? He remembered Skar King and Ghidorah, who he faced before The Rival. YOU are putting your own " interpretation" on to what happened because all Godzilla fanboys can't stand The Rival beat Godzilla's ass, and Shimu wasn't even trying when she recently fought Godzilla and was handling him in every way.
@UltronInfinite
12 күн бұрын
@@thebeast9606 How the hell do you Rival fanboys always manage to make this about Godzilla all the time? This is not about Godzilla losing, this is about how people like you always make up dumb headcanons to make The Rival even remotely stand a chance against Skar King. Who the fuck even mentioned Shimo and whether or not she was handling Godzilla? Quit yapping already. The matter of the fact is, that Skar King absolutely DEMOLISHES The Rival, due to Skar King being able to fight Kong 2024 who was stronger than Kong 2021 who (when he was 88% weakened) literally knocked out Godzilla 2021, who previously got two nuclear bomb power ups (in 2019, & 1954), way after he fought The Rival. Whether or not Godzilla was “young & inexperienced” outright doesn’t even matter anymore because it’s clear that Godzilla has grown in power IMMENSELY over the years after the fight with The Rival. Also, let’s talk about how Skar King was able to actually contend with Kong even when he got the Beast Glove. Hell, he literally choked Kong so bad that Kong was starting to blackout. (Stated in the novelization) Kong with the Beast Glove was able to knock out Evolved Godzilla who is Godzilla at his peak power, being more powerful than Subatomic Godzilla who was comparable to Burning Godzilla. Can Skar King outright beat Evolved Godzilla? No, but he contended with someone who CAN knock him out, even if it was for a second or few, which is way more impressive than The Rival beating pre-1954 nuke Godzilla in a vague fight that we don’t even know how badly Godzilla lost in comparison. The fact that you idiots will continue to make up headcanons for The Rival to make him seem so strong to the point where he beats Skar King and even KONG (yes, I’ve heard people actually say such nonsense) is ridiculous. You Rival glazers can keep coping, LMAO.
@DarthLord-eq5wp
11 күн бұрын
To be fair skar king doesn't have much of a physical build to match him in strength but definitely speed and skill over him
"The Rival" Procceds to be weaker than Kong and Skar King. Definietly deserved the tittle of "The Rival"
@Foc_heisei
15 күн бұрын
They named another Godzilla in the monsterverse Dagon,why give a false title to a weakling instead of ghidorah who would stomp Godzilla in a 1v1
@Sr_V2
15 күн бұрын
@@Foc_heisei Dagon atleast died vs Muto Prime. Dagon been another Titanus Gojira species is fine. And tbf Current Godzilla beats Ghidorah🤷♂️
@Foc_heisei
15 күн бұрын
@@Sr_V2 Dagon should had got a cooler name instead of a weakling getting named “The rival”(who tf was the rival? Godzilla? Mf had to jump him when he was young) Muto prime knocked him out with one punch long enough to impregnate him I’m assuming you’re talking about evolved Godzilla right? If so base evolved loses and supercharged evolved slams base Amped ghidorah vs supercharged evolved however could go either way
@Sr_V2
15 күн бұрын
@@Foc_heisei Thats some crazy ass take but agree at the start
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
😭
Also to add, he would've had to have beaten Ghidorah after the rival encounter, because up until MZ re-awaking, godzilla was considered king. So the rival would have had to fight MZ and beat him to still be considered king. (I've probably phrased/wrote this wrong)
Who’s stronger, you or him?
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
if the rival jumped me i may have a bit of trouble...
@NobodyMS
15 күн бұрын
@@viper6163 but would you lose?
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
@@NobodyMS Nah. I'd win
@goatedfreedom
15 күн бұрын
MY KING NOBODYMS PLZ REPLY TO ME!!!!
@NobodyMS
15 күн бұрын
@@goatedfreedom hi goat
Average Viper posting
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
Yes yes
The Rival is a bum. A fully grown alpha Kong picking on a juvenile, underexperienced and not in his prime Godzilla. Complete fraud, no doubt in my mind that current Godzilla would kill him. Current Godzilla killed Tiamat who killed this dude.
@viper6163
9 күн бұрын
current godzilla flicks his tail and rivals torn in half. i have no idea why people overate this bum. at least kong is impressive for his species
@Noname-ut1ye
8 күн бұрын
@@viper6163 Kong is respectable. This dude bullied a juvenile lmao.
@Noname-ut1ye
8 күн бұрын
I just wish Godzilla was the one to kill him. I know that he'll always feel that sense of failure to catch up with him to get his vengeance but that chance is gone and nothing will ever sooth that desire to get even. It will haunt him until death.
@rachelvieira397
4 күн бұрын
@@Noname-ut1ye I don’t think legendary is brave enough to have Godzilla actually kill one of the gigant apes, the apes resemble humans a lot more than other titans and even have red blood, and seeing as how Godzilla tends to kill his Ops in extremely brutal ways that would give the movie a higher age rating
@Noname-ut1ye
2 күн бұрын
@@rachelvieira397I am a human being and I'd love Godzilla smoking a Kong.
Personally here’s how I think the timeline goes (this video has changed my mind a lot on this) Rival and his gang jump Godzilla -> Ghidorah -> Great Kaiju War (Skar King and etc) Now I’m not saying Ghidorah is weak I’m just saying the Kaiju wor had to take place since Shimo helped Godzilla
@FastModz95
10 күн бұрын
Ancient Godzilla is not above Ancient Ghidorah. Many cave paints show that Godzilla needs the help of both Mothra and Rodan to fight The False King consistently. And to even make it worse, Shimo is said to have froze Ghidorah but since Godzilla also there, then the fight would have been a 2v1 and they only frozed him, not even kill him. Ancient Ghidorah > Ancient Godzilla.
Cool also do you hate kong himself as a character?
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
Kongs cool. I don’t think he’s as strong as some people say he is, but he’s in my top 5 fav kaiju in the mv
@ahmedAshraf-td4iy
15 күн бұрын
@@viper6163 OK 👍
just get it into your head that the rival is stronger than the younger Godzilla maybe around 2014 level.
Should’ve added divine music (💀)
You exposes this fraud Hokmuto and female muto victim fr
Wade has to see this
@rachelvieira397
15 күн бұрын
Definitely
@G4DZ1LLA5
11 күн бұрын
Im a member of him and I told him about this. He will see my comment
@bremalerage5935
11 күн бұрын
@@G4DZ1LLA5 did he make a response
@G4DZ1LLA5
11 күн бұрын
@@bremalerage5935 yes on my comment
@G4DZ1LLA5
11 күн бұрын
@@bremalerage5935 I saw that as well, but it’s not updated. A friend of mine directly messaged him and he implied that the rival beat him 1v1 fair and square. Thats what he said i copied it
Godzilla guy should see this 😊 It will make him change his mind
So what does Godzilla consider Kong. Remember this name is what Godzilla calls this specific kong so in his perspective, what does he call Kong?
@Foc_heisei
13 күн бұрын
A joke
@rachelvieira397
11 күн бұрын
That’s actually very interesting question
@asafakiva1619
9 күн бұрын
Probably a worthy foe🤷🏻♂️
8:50 Wait, you changed your mind on Mecha??
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
I have for awhile, I still think he’s above kong but not as strong as I thought he was
@Nigeta289
15 күн бұрын
@@viper6163 why isn’t he as strong as you originally thought?
@Cakes_TheHollowAnalyst
14 күн бұрын
@@Nigeta289 He got debunked HARD especially by some guy called ‘G21 Negs Eva 01’
@viper6163
14 күн бұрын
@@Nigeta289 25 precent godzilla is relative to him. the weaker gvk goji is above him. and just stuff around that
@FastModz95
10 күн бұрын
@@viper6163How is Mechagodzilla above Kong ?
Im pretty sure that when Godzilla faced the rival he still hadn’t eaten the star that gave him his atomic breath and amped up his power
@indo7635
12 күн бұрын
I doubt eating a star was supposed to be taken literally
@rachelvieira397
12 күн бұрын
Godzilla never actually ate a star
@AtomicTheSecond
8 күн бұрын
eating a star is metaphor
@rachelvieira397
8 күн бұрын
@@AtomicTheSecond are you Brazilian?
This video doesn’t get the attention it deserves
The Rival was able to match Tiamat and beat him but then got beaten by a weakened post KOM Godzilla. This same weaken Godzilla was ready to beat the Rival. Tiamat doesn’t upscale the Rival in New Empire as she was actively feeding on radiation in the world and still got stomped by supercharged Godzilla. The Rival
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
The rival isn’t above a base Tiamat. They died to a base Tiamat. Otherwise W
@FlawlessWallace3350
15 күн бұрын
@@viper6163 yeah I do have the Rival below base Tiamat just because the story shows Tiamat as somewhat as a threat to weaken Godzilla
The rival might be weaker than kong but still hell did he kick godzilla's ass outta his own lair. Godzilla was young so that's why he got his ass kicked. If they fought now you know godzilla would maul him
OR several more kong.
Somebody said the rival can kill Godzilla with his bare hands, and since the rival can beat Godzilla Kong can beat Godzilla
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
💀
Viperrrr
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
hola
W MV kong slams the Rival
@viper6163
14 күн бұрын
easily to
@Karymt
14 күн бұрын
Kong bullies rival
skar > rival
@KingGoji-m1r3
15 күн бұрын
Are you stupid? Skar is nothing without his whip or Shimo
@Foc_heisei
15 күн бұрын
@@KingGoji-m1r3rival is nothing without his brethren
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
W
@KingGoji-m1r3
8 күн бұрын
@@Foc_heiseiUgh, you're one of those people No, The Rival fought Godzilla alone and beat him, Greg Keyes literally confirmed it It doesn't matter how many excuses you wanna make, at the end of the day, The Rival won
@KingGoji-m1r3
8 күн бұрын
Rival > Skar
Tiamat lost to Godzilla due to Godzilla's land advantage
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
It’s outright states Goji is stronger even in water
@Mr.Margwito
7 күн бұрын
@@viper6163 I think it depends where in the water they are fighting, since Godzilla later states "Here, below, she is at her strongest. He must take the fight on land."
tgeh
common Godzilla fanboy cope
@Foc_heisei
15 күн бұрын
Don’t see how Godzilla has anything to do with this
@XPChronos
15 күн бұрын
Skar victim
15 күн бұрын
Magita and bagaan are Godzilla rivals not Kong
@Lman110
15 күн бұрын
Average rival propaganda.
@viper6163
15 күн бұрын
Someone can’t debunk it