As insane as this all is, the fact that dahvis hair was a FUCKING WIG THIS WHOLE TIME broke my brain.

@piaaadah

Жыл бұрын

I wanna know what it looks like under the wig 😂

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

Жыл бұрын

@@piaaadah HES BALD

@toesrus9852

Жыл бұрын

@@piaaadah he has a shiny bald head 😶 the sweat from his bald scalp made the wigs moldy on the inside not even kidding 😭

@melissamayhaps8990

Жыл бұрын

He's not super bald. He's from my hometown and I've seen him around. BUT without the wig, it does look like his neck is blowing a bubble, hair or not. But honestly, it was at the height of their popularity.

@worstusernameintheworld9871

Жыл бұрын

I am today years old when I realized that Dahvie is bald and is wearing wigs

“Starts reading uncensored BOTDF lyrics.” Monetization was never an option

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

lmfaoooo

@tubester4567

4 жыл бұрын

@@thecozyrep Fallon is not a victim of Dahvie. She was his biggest supporter and defender, she silenced Dahvie's victims on social media. She hooked up with Dahvie when most people in the music industry refused to work with him.

@tubester4567

4 жыл бұрын

@Jivy He doesnt get a pass. Ive always said Jay and Jeffree Star are guilty, but Fallon is worse than all of them because Fallon was defending Dahvie after everyone had left him, and she silenced many victims over a long period of time.

@Dystxnn

4 жыл бұрын

Dang I remember Nate's (ISMFOF) post about Jay and about Dahvie.

@anonymousperson3690

4 жыл бұрын

@@tubester4567 In my opinion Jay was also groomed by Dahvie. The whole time Dahvie also handled Jay's money and bills so Jay may have felt if he left he'd end up on the street

“Offensive for the sake of being offensive” is the perfect way to describe early 2000s youth culture

@user-lg8uc3nc6j

4 ай бұрын

@peachypeppersame me too but I’d be weird affff😂😂😂😂

@PaigeBook

22 күн бұрын

Lol rebel without a cause

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

17 күн бұрын

im kinda happy i wasnt alive/was a baby during that 😭

Hearing Jay talk about being forced to tour while constantly being sick from HIV treatment instead of being allowed to rest and recover was heartbreaking.

@GG-kn2se

Жыл бұрын

I’d feel more sorry for him if he didn’t happily join the band fresh from his arrest for assaulting a child and participating in a song mocking an 11 year old victim when his band mate is so disgusting everyone knows he’s a predator.

@IbrahimMuhammad_114

7 ай бұрын

Guys treating the united states as their personal bath-house

@SocialExperiment232

3 ай бұрын

@@GG-kn2sepeople love to forget this little detail just cause once everything blew up he turned on Dahvie. All I have to do is watch the vid of him mocking Jesse slaughter even tho she’s 11 and I can tell he’s just as trash as the rest.

I have to say Garrett has my respect for actually finishing the OMFG tour by himself. Definitely embarrassing and scary, but glad he finished the tour for the fans. He also is definitely a good frontman, very energetic and can actually sing. I don't believe a single word Dahvie said about him, a lazy no good member would NEVER finish half a tour by themselves. Garrett has even said he left because he couldn't take Dahvie's bs anymore

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

agreed :)

@Return2TheLiving

4 жыл бұрын

What is Garrett up to now?

@puffpuffpassmako

4 жыл бұрын

@@Return2TheLiving after he left botdf he started a band called Boys Talk Trash, but the project fell through and he retired from music. Safe to assume he currently lives a normal life. I haven't heard of any accusers or investigators like Chris Hansen trying to contact him, which is foolish. He probably has some things to say about Dahvie in his early days

@Funnivids100

4 жыл бұрын

@@puffpuffpassmako him and chris have been contacted and have not wanted to speak due to legal issues and wanting to distance themselves from it.

@puffpuffpassmako

4 жыл бұрын

@@Funnivids100 Garrett can't be sued, he's no longer with botdf and his contract must have expired as well as this being a legit investigation. The only thing dahvie can do to Garrett is threaten him with a lawsuit, which will instantly be thrown out since dahvie is being investigated. Unless Garrett gives a false accusation, he's fine in a legal standpoint. But I can see why Garrett would be afraid

Finally a scene kid covers this!! It’s been infuriating reading comments on other videos about how could this have happened. Any scene kid could tell you how!

@nikiiixo333

3 жыл бұрын

Right lol 😂

@fallensurvivor21

3 жыл бұрын

Fr. All this drama happening to these MySpace celebrities feels like 2008-2012 all over again.. except it's them being dragged.

@GeoNeilUK

2 жыл бұрын

The desire to be edgy for the sake of being edgy?

@delanoarts3703

2 жыл бұрын

These kind of things happen in all scenes lot of the time the scene is to small to make any waves but unfortunately it happens all the time look at r Kelly bill Cosby Ed Sullivan the stats say 1 percent of the population are pedophile rounds small but that's 1 person out every 100 you get a scene like Crunk global 100000 people there will be pedophiles my point is the scene can't be blamed its what happens when enough people are grouped together

@KristiLEvans1

2 жыл бұрын

Pffft. Any 80’s hair metal kid could’ve told you how. There’s nothing new under the sun.

I like how the aesthetic of this channel is a callback to the KZread of the early 2000’s. This is a video I would have watched in high school.

@kittykittybangbang9367

2 жыл бұрын

*late 2000s

@anti-ethniccleansing465

Жыл бұрын

@@kittykittybangbang9367 The aesthetic is earlier though because of the aspect ratio he’s using imitates us still using 4:3 crt tvs.

@piaaadah

Жыл бұрын

I feel this!

@skest.

Жыл бұрын

preachhh

@alicemalice1047

Жыл бұрын

Kitty nope. They said what they said and it was right.

His "scene hair" being a wig is pretty hilarious. 😆

@fuzzypanda2804

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly always thought it was real, had no idea it was a wig till now. Dude was supposed have been a hair dresser even

@rosemary5005

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he gotta look decent when he’s at work Monday to Friday 😉😉

@chrisbuckley1785

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine waking up every morning and putting THAT on your head. 😂😂😂

@mollybjorkskog2322

2 жыл бұрын

He is probably bald xD

@Shadamyfan-rs8xc

2 жыл бұрын

@@mollybjorkskog2322 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I love the way you chuckle when giving pathetic details about Dahvie.

@cherryvoid5238

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed I loved it ~ 😂

@djangoreinhardt3795

4 жыл бұрын

@@cherryvoid5238 Cool name

@NinjaCorps

4 жыл бұрын

His laugh is infectious

All i remember is a friend in school telling me about this great band she loves, blood on the dance floor. I went home and looked it up, and thought the song was so bad i must have found a parody of the real one accidentally. Nah, I had found the real song.

@cozycasasmr4510

4 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

@jessicavargas708

4 жыл бұрын

Lol I thought the same thing!

@edward6749

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao😂😂😂

@ORIMARtrustNo1

4 жыл бұрын

It's been years since I heard of this band and I still find it hard to believe people actually CHOSE to listen to this trash

@leomartin6858

3 жыл бұрын

cozy cas hhhhhhhhhhhohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhjjjjjjj

Jay Monroe is actually doing so much better nowadays. He was on Season 3 & 4 of Dragula with the Boulet Brother's & actually won season 4. He does tours with them and does horror drag full time. It's good to see him focusing on himself and his art. He's actually crazy talented. I'm glad BOTDF didn't drag him down or stop him from being true to himself. As much as I grew up listening to BOTDF, I'm glad Jay isn't contributing to himself with Dahvie's predatory nonsense anymore. I still don't know why barley anything has been done about his behavior! But cheers to Jay (Dahli) for succeeding in life beyond all this drama 🖤☺️

@vortexofself

Жыл бұрын

That was also where we learned Dahvie kept Dahli/Jayy’s HIV medication from them. Just more despicable shit Dahvie did.

@questionmark3666

Жыл бұрын

Jay is a creep tho i heard so much shit about him to

@dejausser

Жыл бұрын

Dahli/Jay is non binary and uses they/them pronouns (just in case you didn’t know), but yeah they’re doing much bettter now, I’m really happy for them. They seem genuinely lovely from everything I’ve seen from them/on Dragula!

@infoscrolls

11 ай бұрын

@@dejausser no one cares

@XxPeriCo27xX

11 ай бұрын

you clearly did to wanna make a comment on it. @@infoscrolls

For someone to bully a child at 11 years old through a song is soooo disgusting. The worst of the worst.

@natk4017

6 ай бұрын

To be fair the entire internet was bullying this 11 year old child, as much as I want to hold that against Dahvie, it was literally a meme to bully her back then.

@richgerow3472

3 ай бұрын

An 11-year-old that he had sex with nonetheless. What an absolute scumbag he is.

@icepick859

Ай бұрын

She was also groomed and molested by Dahvie. She’s so mentally fucked from the whole thing that to this day she doesn’t even realize what happened. She still thinks of him as some jerk ex boyfriend that dumped her, instead of a predator that groomed her then used and abused her

Bro never change this format. It’s like I’m having a friend break down everything for me. Crazy that ten years later all the scene kids are now adults (including me) and this channel in some way serves as part nostalgic trip part personal reflection on who I was you know?

@MsElizaRae

3 жыл бұрын

Definately agree with this

@Margohagan111

2 жыл бұрын

10000000%%

@justineaker2516

2 жыл бұрын

It's scary that I'm almost 30 but I remember buying a falling in reverse shirt when they first came out. Fuck.

@ANONisEVERYTHING

Жыл бұрын

You said what I couldnt find the words for, well done my friend.

That BOTDF first album sounds like every Onision 'song' I've ever had the displeasure of stumbling across. Are we sure that Dahvie didn't write "I'm a Banana"?? lol!!

@ScottVeggies

4 жыл бұрын

My friend was really into him and "bands" like botdf and I remember him showing me that banana song and it still haunts me. I was into the heavier side of the scene (TDWP, Attack Attack, very early Of Mice And Men, suicide silence) so you could probably see my reaction to that song 😂

@dottiebaylen7568

4 жыл бұрын

@@ScottVeggies Oh boy, I bet your friend regrets that now, lol, so shameful!!

@MissesHakke

4 жыл бұрын

You mean like jayy wrote it lol...dahvie didnt write their songs, cause hes even too stupid for that! 🤷‍♀️😂

@MakotoKinoSailorJupiter2020

3 жыл бұрын

I’m A Banana was Onision? God damn it

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

@@MakotoKinoSailorJupiter2020 Ikr, I 1st heard that song through a mlp parody (and I even heard that was on Comedy Central)

Dude, you are the realist person I've ever seen on KZread. Don't change. You've got a great presence and you talk like a regular person instead of someone reading a wiki page.

@thecozyrep

2 жыл бұрын

thank you! :)

BOTDF is quite easily one of the most hated music groups of all time

@Just_niaxx

3 жыл бұрын

I can see why it sucks ass

@philiphanan1493

3 жыл бұрын

Still less hated than Nickelback.

@BType13X2

2 жыл бұрын

@@philiphanan1493 Which makes absolutely no sense. I think people ironically hate Nickelback but their record sales speak for itself. Also friend of mine who is a former radio DJ used to have major muscians on when they did shows in our city, he told me that Nickelback specifically Chad was always super kind to EVERYONE at the radio station and to his assistant. Like whether he was on the air or not he was always polite kind, and personable. Otherbands not so much, so people might not like their music or find it repetative but they outright shouldn't be hated because of that.

@kittykittybangbang9367

2 жыл бұрын

@@BType13X2 Remember, doing something ironically is a gateway drug to doing it unironically

@somedude172

2 жыл бұрын

so true. i remember liking one of their songs in like 2014 but i wouldnt put it on my playlist because even the other emo 14 year olds would make fun of me for it lmfao. then the allegations came out and its been downhill for them ever since, thankfully. i hate to think tho, literally the only difference between him and someone like r kelly is how much their music conforms to social norms. its weird to think if they made more socially acceptable music, we might be hearing dahvie's voice on the radio still. like, am i the only one who feels like Dahvie Vanity walked so Tekashi 69 could run? edit: just checked my old itunes account, it was in fact just one song (rise and shine) and im 99% sure i only liked it because it was about bullying awareness. but now im looking back at the video and it is.... *extremely* fkn concerning, to say the least. like i should not have seen that as a bullied 12 year old, and im really shocked its not age restricted at the very least

Undoubtedly the best Blood on the Dance Floor documentary I have seen thus far. I have been looking into the history of BOTDF myself and the amount of research you've done is substantial and you have uncovered some stuff that I have not found myself (I couldn't find an archived Myspace page before 2008, for instance). And you've done an excellent job of pulling 'noteworthy' moments out of many hours of largely uninteresting video blogs (like the Paramore interactions, for instance), and compiled them here so that we don't need to wade through that garbage ourselves! Incredibly factual and well done.

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

thank you so so so much

@Spooky_Dook

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Well done, Sir.

@Aethelhadas

4 жыл бұрын

fuck i wished i watched this video earlier what a gem!

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

Жыл бұрын

@@thecozyrep can u pls do a video abt Amy Can Flyy?

I was so obsessed with botdf back in the day. When I was 13 I had a botdf theme birthday party and their picture was on my birthday cake. It's so cringey looking back on.

@DJLSDSLOTH

4 жыл бұрын

Yo i lowkey felt that lol but i was more a botdf fan merch and sgtc cult member on their website, but back in the day i would at hot topic i always get the new released shirts from them i still got the botdf seat belt belts

@asherslife9818

4 жыл бұрын

BlackMageMarc oh my god I have BOTDF seat belt belts as well, they’re the only belts I own so it’s awkward wearing them to work to this day but I have literally no money right now to buy a new belt 😬

@DJLSDSLOTH

4 жыл бұрын

@@asherslife9818 the only seat belt belt i wear is adventure time belt c:

@lonelysith66

4 жыл бұрын

These things happen, honey, you’re okay.

@akibop

4 жыл бұрын

Same. The fact that I still remember the lyrics to all the songs makes me want to RIP

I grew up in the scene and was a HUGE fan of Blood on the Dance Floor. I went to several shows, and even met Dahvie and Jayy a couple of times. One of the things that always stood out to me was how kind Dahvie was, almost uncomfortably so. When I had a medical emergency at a show, he personally got involved in my care both before the ambulance arrived and after I was cleared to go home. I was 15 at the time and just excited someone famous was paying attention to me. Now, as an adult, I realize how weird and inappropriate it was for a man literally twice my age to be so personally interested in me. I remember adults around me, including other artists and even the other touring members of BOTDF, almost putting an effort in keeping the younger fans at an arm's length, but Dahvie was extremely interested in keeping us in his orbit. I only now realize how weird and scary his behavior was.

@nineinchthread

7 ай бұрын

So glad nothing happened to you .

@shanemiller6982

6 ай бұрын

Did he diddle your pooter?

I'm not victim blaming or anything but watching the interviews and what not, I've always been impressed on the number of parents who just allowed their children to hang out with him or go on car rides alone with him. Like,,, bro ur child is 13??

@LuvLight13

2 жыл бұрын

I AGREE. I MILLION PERCENT.

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

2 жыл бұрын

FR

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

2 жыл бұрын

Ig it's bc they trusted him

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252

2 жыл бұрын

All kids deserve parents, not all parents deserve children

@chugnuts4208

Жыл бұрын

Most of the kids who liked this stuff back then came from broken homes or had mental issues

As a former scene kid during the same era, these videos make me feel as if I’m talking to a homie of mine. Your vids bring nostalgia both positive and insightful from the scene days lol. Keep it up!!! (:

@dlrsnate5100

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@CarlosSanchez-jd1tf

4 жыл бұрын

Facts and one I got older (almost 20) I let go on some bands like BOTDF, Asking Alexander to an extended, Attack Attack, etc etc but but I kept one band and I enjoyed them to this day Black Veil Brides hell I'm excited about the new album...but I expanded to many genres like violen,dubstep,Japanese metal,metal,rock,nu metal and my personal favorite djent and I appreciate that I left it and mature as a person and music did also and I enjoy it

@stephanieann6622

3 жыл бұрын

Not to bring it down.. but, to me it just brings up trauma. As one of his victims, it kinda ruined my scene phase. I hope he gets out in prison. I know he's changed his image when he goes out and don't wear his wig so he's completely bald and makeupless. If the FBI and judicial system won't lock him up, I hope to get everything some person in the streets fucks his shit up

Excellent video; to me, the saddest part of all of this is seeing these young girls with tears in their eyes, recounting what happened to them with so much emotion--their innocence taken and their lives changed. The best part is seeing people come together to help them.

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

couldn't agree more

Ya know, I used to say "If you want BOTDF without the pedophilia, just listen to Mindless Self Indulgence." Can't say that anymore

@kittykittybangbang9367

2 жыл бұрын

Sucks because MSI was genuinely a good band, and now I feel like I can't even listen to them anymore. And where am I going to find a band as experimental and good as MSI without the controversies and unlistenable vocals?

@morbidhime

2 жыл бұрын

@@kittykittybangbang9367 all i can think of are millionaires and insane clown posse

@nice4398

2 жыл бұрын

@@morbidhime the poorionaires said the n word

@morbidhime

2 жыл бұрын

@@nice4398 oh yikes, i never knew that.

@nice4398

2 жыл бұрын

@@morbidhime yq it rlly fidpointer us blk proplr csnt trist wyoipo😭🥺

I was already too old for “scene”, but being active in punk for 30+ years, I understand it. It’s sh!tty when people like Dahvie vanity are in any community

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

Жыл бұрын

as a scene kid im so happy we make fun of dahvie 💀

id be so mad if someone dumped sticky disgusting monster drink all over me.

@chattycoryn5064

4 жыл бұрын

He did worse. Some survivors are stating he would spit on them. Like, full on loogie. 🤢 One survivor remembers it like Dahvie was claiming her as territory. Ugh. I can't wait to hear the day this maggot is finally arrested.

@Em-im1yz

4 жыл бұрын

Ewww yeah for sure. The monster would take forever to get off.

@aly5891

4 жыл бұрын

Most of the time it wasn’t actually monster. Other bands did that and it was water. Who knows with dhavie though.

@chattycoryn5064

4 жыл бұрын

@@WhiteLiteBarbie I would've bit it off!!!!

@iCanBeHeroic

4 жыл бұрын

WhiteLiteBarbie ...uh yeah? I kinda hope that would upset you? tf? 😐

clicked for the history stayed for the scene kid memories and dgd shirt subbed for more of your content it's nice to hear someone who is familiar with the scene talk about it, because it seems to confuse a lot of the people learning about it now a days without having experienced it. great video.

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

thank you so much!! :)

@SavvyNitro

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, people who weren’t there for can’t wrap their minds around it.

@chrisbaltazar7164

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@jimjob1056

4 жыл бұрын

@@thecozyrep one thing i will add is that your beard and hair look great, the newly homeless guy look suits you super well.

@seanmcdevitt9061

3 жыл бұрын

Nitro were gonna be 70 saying “I was there”

I'd like to point out that Jayyvon has since become a drag performer under the alias of The Dahli and is absolutely KILLING it with winning Season 4 of The Boulet Brothers' Dragula and even openly speaking about the issues he faced during his run in BOTDF (without actually saying names, of course). So not only was he a big part of their popularity but he has proven that he is a grossly talented individual in his own right

@alicemalice1047

Жыл бұрын

"him. He goes by he/him.

@princesskristan

Жыл бұрын

I was so glad when he won! The stories he told broke my heart, but the times I've interacted with him back when he would do IG lives, he was so sweet to me

@Averyr91

Жыл бұрын

Let’s not forget he actively participated in bullying 11 year old Jessie slaughter

@nightmarefanatic1819

Жыл бұрын

Holy shit, just looked it up and his looks are awesome.

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

Жыл бұрын

FRR HE DESERVES THE BEST

Fun fact, where Dahvie's speaking with Geoff Rickley of Thursday, and 'someone else' as Julian worded it: that's Matthew Lillard. Portrayed Stu in Wes Craven's Scream. Portrayed Shaggy in the live action Scooby Doo films. He's a 0pretty well known actor. He seems pretty humbled too.

@dancegregorydance6933

2 жыл бұрын

And of Scream

@JK-gm6kk

2 жыл бұрын

SLC Punk is classic

@surfingbrrrd

2 жыл бұрын

@@JK-gm6kk yes, definitely the best of his

@clementineharper7473

2 жыл бұрын

Literally scrolled down comments to see if anyone else recognised him. Well caught!

@Real_Horrorsh0w

Жыл бұрын

I thought that was him!!!

Glad to see someone who grew up in the scene like myself actually address this. I'm "Snide", the one who wrote the article about Jayyvon being abused that you used in the video. Dahvie is an absolutely terrible human being, and I'm glad that so many people are now coming out against it. His behavior on the Scene is Dead and Bad Blood tours (both of which I went to in the past) was egregiously awful. Great video, you've earned a subscriber.

I was a huge fan of scene bands, but i couldn't stand BOTDF. Every show i went to that they were at i went out of my way to avoid their sets and avoided contact with Dahvie while he was out and about. Couldn't figure out why i thought they were garbage, but starting to think my intuition was warning me that he's genuinely a creep.

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

same here!

@phluffie

4 жыл бұрын

me too, before i knew all of this, i already had a terrible terrible feeling about this dahvie dude.

@bloodyneptune

3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't stand them either, but it was less because of 'intuition' and more 'the general ability to hear'

I remember being 13 & tweeting out making Dahvie my “man crush Monday” & he hearted my tweet.🤮 I still have the email to prove it

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

Жыл бұрын

MAN CRUSH MONDAY??💀💀💀 dude u need to post tht everywhere

@dianaberlin4767

4 ай бұрын

Please stop trying to be part of something it's embarrassing

@s7o7v

4 ай бұрын

@@dianaberlin4767 girl ain’t nobody talking to you stfu

This is so interesting as a newer scene kid, it’s like a history lesson 😭

Wow, no ads? That's amazing thank you. Any other KZreadr would have put 20 ads in this. No bs. I recently watched 2 15-20min videos with 7-10 ads on them I was like holy shit dudes

@LunaSerenayt

4 жыл бұрын

It would get demonetized either way with all this cursing and copyrighted music :\ i would support him if he wanted to monetize because it takes time to make these videos

@treystewart731

4 жыл бұрын

And there are also two ads every time it stopped for them, and both ads were unskippable each time.

“Remain the position and bleed” I also English very gooder

@Dumb_Killjoy

3 жыл бұрын

I laughed too much at this

what really scares me is that if Hayley was just a little bit younger at the time or if she was at the age Paramore released Riot! at, she could have sadly been one of Dahvie's victims :S

appreciate seeing a fellow scene kid from back in the day covering this!! thank you for your hard work!

@TorchicLovesYou

3 жыл бұрын

we’re the same age and everything!

This music is trash I can’t believe they had that many fans

@ImCorbi

4 жыл бұрын

13 year old listen to any garbage that makes them 'edgy' to be fair

@AliceSpaxxx

4 жыл бұрын

Little girls that all we're in love with him...that’s ALL! It's no secret that little girls love this androgynous look on guys...just take for example the K-pop Hype...all little girls that LOVE this boys and then just watch how they look( nothing against them really) and I KNOW not all fans are little girls, but 80-90% are, you just have to watch a video of a concert!

@ambz418

4 жыл бұрын

Alice Lilith idk why you are bringing up kpop into this. like not tryna argue but i legit don’t understand what statement you were trying to make lol i listened to kpop before it became super popular in the east so im just curious to what you mean?

@ImCorbi

4 жыл бұрын

@@ambz418 that person is talking about the appeal of such androgynous look, and kpop just an example. In Asia, it's not considered as androgynous - yes, however people from outside, its seems odd. Dont take it too personal, I used to be a kpop fan myself.

@AliceSpaxxx

4 жыл бұрын

@@ImCorbi THANK YOU, I couldn't have explained it better. It was JUST AN EXAMPLE....I also said, NOTHING AGAINST THEM, I really think they are talented(that's a big difference to BOTDF) and it's not my kind of music but I totally respect everybody who listens to K-Pop. I just took it as an example because of the appearance.

This is fascinating to learn as a scene kid poser of the early 2000's (sheltered kid never allowed to go to Warped Tour but loved the music and fashion). Especially in light of current events, you did a brilliant job with this video. Subscribed.

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

thank you so much :)

@kinariize

3 жыл бұрын

"Sheltered kid never allowed to go to Warped Tour but loved the music and fashion" honestly, same! I even got a job at Hot Topic and attempted to convince my mom to let me and my friend go to a Black Veil Bribes concert but she refused. I had to dye and cut my own hair to late at night or when my mom wasn't home cause it was always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission lol looking back, I can't believe I ever liked BOTDF music. It's so cringy listening to it now.

@fallensurvivor21

3 жыл бұрын

Same. I tried being scene in Middle/High school, but everyone liked the pale straight guys and their looks more. I was an outcast within the outcasts, it was an ironic time tbh. Now all those scene guys are in jail or addicted to class A drugs. It's so weird.

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

@@kinariize At least you like BVB a far more talented band and a better lead singer.

@nineinchthread

7 ай бұрын

​@@kinariizemaybe because of your family you wanted to rebel

im a HUGE fan of the cringe in your voice when you read the lyrics out loud lol, as someone who knew basically nothing about BOTDF i rlly appreciate this video, super informative and complete

This was well done. I am glad an actual scene kid who lived this era and was familiar with this topic covered it in detail with experiences unlike idiots like pastel belle or others who are just talking about this for clout

It's crazy because I remember sitting in my first apartment, 10 years ago from now, and reading about all of this stuff, and the dude still isn't in jail. 10 years.

@thatsnodildo1974

2 жыл бұрын

It happens unfortunately and it's annoying af

@dreiecknichtvergessen

2 жыл бұрын

Probably because of the double jeopardy law. A person can‘t be tried multiple times for the same crime, so they probably want to be 100% sure that Dahvie will lose the case before they arrest him

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

2 жыл бұрын

@@dreiecknichtvergessen BRUH IT'S 100% TRUE THOUGH

@rhysajbfangal5552

2 жыл бұрын

i remember watching anti-botdf youtube video's back in 2013 and ppl in tha videos talking about this stuff! and now its been 9 yrs and still hes not in jail! so disgusting of our justice system to ignore all this!

@anti-ethniccleansing465

Жыл бұрын

@@rhysajbfangal5552 It took 4 years before the cops did anything about Ian Watkins of lostprophets. And literal babies could have been saved from his heinous abuse in that time. 9 years is just... WOW.

"I didn't think I had anything to add" Makes a video over 1 hour long

"I'll get you wetter than huricane katrina" truly a legendary line

5:56 Is that guy just screaming "bootyhole" over and over?

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Savox, didn't expect to see you here

@Dreigonix

3 жыл бұрын

“40 ounce”. But considering how trash of live-performers they are, I’m not surprised it got misheard. Half the time you can’t understand what BrokeNCYDE’s really saying.

@josephwatkins527

2 жыл бұрын

50:00

I still can’t comprehend the fact that I made a wholeass 10 minute school presentation on Dahvie when I was 11-

@taw2377

4 жыл бұрын

I hate myself it’s okay- we’ve all been there. When I was 11 my friend had 1 botdf song on her iPod touch and me and my friends would listen to it in the furthest corner of the playground at recess hoping no teachers heard. Lol. I have a quote book I’ve been keeping since I was 12 and I’m positive there’s Dahvie quotes in there. Hopefully our generation will be better about making sure our kids don’t get into stupid shit😂

@malice_macabre

4 жыл бұрын

@@taw2377 I remember having a list of Dahvie quotes in my notes on my ipod💀 I still have my old diaries yoo where I drew shitty fanart in it lmao

@demetrisloukas8586

4 жыл бұрын

You just made my day. Thank you

@Just_niaxx

3 жыл бұрын

It’s ok I did a whole presentation on Emerson Barret from Palaye Royale-..never mind he’s a sweetheart

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

As much as I wish that I could grow up in the 2000s, BOTDF makes me think otherwise. And today if I was still 11 I would probably do a presentation on MLP:FIM (my 1st fandom) a far better show with very talented musicians in the fanbase.

I wish Jeffree star would get called out in the middle of all this, he calls Dahvie a predator and then turns around and acts like they're buddy buddy? Sorry Jeffree but I don't believe for a second that you actually care about these victimized CHILDREN, imagine how corrupted you have to be to turn a blind eye to that the second it's convenient for you. That's beyond repulsive and evil, I'll never support that man don't know why anyone else still is.

@cpink102292

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, 2012-2014 was a really rough period for Jeffree Star. He was loosing fans and hemorrhaging money. He almost ended up homeless during that time. He won't ever admit to it, or hint at it, but there's a solid chance he toured with BOTD for clout and cash.

@nottoday3440

4 жыл бұрын

It’s about time he will finally get his as well I don’t think this is over

@GG-uj9bh

3 жыл бұрын

@@cpink102292 i think he did tour with them. I remember jayy saying something about.

@MakotoKinoSailorJupiter2020

3 жыл бұрын

Chris Hansen interviewed Jeffree Star and Jeffree denied seeing or knowing anything

@Just_niaxx

3 жыл бұрын

I think Dahive gave him hush money when Jeffree wasn’t rich or having a lot of money at the time

51:39 That's Mathew Lillard, pretty sure he wasn't in Thursday. However he was Cereal Killer in Hackers, Shaggy in Scooby Doo, The assistant in 13 Ghosts and is a huge D&D nerd who owns a company that makes campaigns for D&D. Dude is chill af

@october1634

2 жыл бұрын

I was sure it was him, took way too long to find a comment confirming it

My younger cousin use to like this band. She liked the electro in it. I played her a Combichrist album in my car and once she heard what talent sounded like BOTDF was no more. She face palms and laughs if anyone mentions that band today.

Hayley Williams is literally the last person I imagined liking BOTDF. Hayley honey what were you doin

Ok so what I’ve gained from this video is that Dahvie was the 6ix9ine of the scene era. Noted

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

More like Dahvie was the original 6ix9ine

@mehlessmidori602

2 жыл бұрын

6ix9ine wish he had Dahvie's bodycount.

@natashaaston1328

2 жыл бұрын

Swear 6ix9ine did it with one girl? Don't think they can be compared aha

@joeytheboobear8032

2 жыл бұрын

No 69 actually has some good songs with nicki

@katherinederosas9181

2 жыл бұрын

nah dahvie’s worse

I remember commenting on this video a few years back and I literally watch this video every single day for comfort and every time i watch it i just get that mind blowing feeling like it’s insane. You start so low and then you reach the top of the chain to the point you had everything you’ve ever wanted, money, friends, fame. The things he did was so terrible that time caught up and now he has nothing. I remember being a fan since i was 12 until i hit 18 and I remember him being so big when i started listening and as time went by, the fame and art in his music just went down so bad i was atp pretending to like his stuff when i hit 17 bc the music was just complete garbage. It just blows my mind tbh

Scene music never died. A Day To Remember, All-Time Low, Dead Girls Academy, Breathe Carolina, and Ghost Town keep it up.

@Just_niaxx

2 жыл бұрын

Well All Time Low actually makes good music tho

@JamesGunton

2 жыл бұрын

ATL were NEVER scene 🤣🤣

@Noise_floorxx

2 жыл бұрын

This is "scene" music? My 31 year old self is like what?

@xxmidnitecyanidexx8443

2 жыл бұрын

@@Noise_floorxx from what I understand, scene music is basically a (super awesome) mix of hip-hop and some metal core elements. Scene music also usually has some rly weird lyrics

@xx_somescenecath0lic_xx888

2 жыл бұрын

@@Noise_floorxx we also have scenecore hyperpop now

This was a great video. Thank you. I’m almost 43, at the time they started, I was around 30 years old. I had gotten married, was getting divorced, taking care of a very sick parent, and thrilled that New Kids on the Block had reunited. lol. I am GenX and grew from Michael Jackson, Madonna, Prince, into Big Hair bands, metal, r&b, and rap, into NKOTB etc and into Grunge, goth etc. My playlists look like they belong to 4 different people minimum. I had NO clue what crunkcore was, or that there was something called crunkcore before this video. I clearly remember the times, and the world, but I’d never been on MySpace once. I think you underestimate how much value your video has. You are 100% correct; kids now are MUCH more aware and informed than we were. They are still just kids though and not necessarily equipped to handle monsters like this on their own. The important part is that they recognize it and hopefully us grownup types will listen when they’re screaming about the monster under the bed. For those older than me, or those younger who don’t understand what times were like, this is fantastic too. And thank you for highlighting the lyrics, my God. I had no clue. He was like this from the very beginning. That means there are probably earlier victims out there. I’m extremely thankful that you listened for me, and thanks to you, I don’t have to. I have a good enough idea. I haven’t seen ANYONE else do a video from this perspective or like this. You have no idea how much you have added to the conversation. You’ve done so in your own way, doing what you do best, and have contributed a unique, insightful, and necessary piece to this evolving story. Thank you again. 💙

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

wow thank you so, so much! this comment means so much to me and put a big smile on my face :) thank you again!

This video is so complete. You can tell how much research went into it and honestly seeing anyone who would listen to all of that music and watch all those documentaries and videos just for the sake of one video really shows dedication. I feel like this is much needed information on the subject; in order to understand the history behind it, one must first look at the context and I feel like this video does a really good job at showcasing what was going on at that time.

This was a real time in my life! I remember being around 15 when I first read the website/book "your scene sucks" and crunk-core was a specific genre/pipeline replete with a unique aesthetic. The ends in -core thing got really outta hand for awhile!

Honestly dude, came to your channel for the Asking Alexandria videos, loved every second of them and I can now say you and Punk Rock MBA are my two go to music channels, definitely earned this sub, keep kicking ass brother

I didnt expect to enjoy this video so much, thank you for putting a huge chunk of my childhood into perspective, what a walk down s crazy crazy walk down memory lane

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

thanks so much :)

I can’t believe you’re 23, def thought you were late 20s like me since you know so much about the scene.

@wellingtongibson

3 жыл бұрын

Hey friend, funny seeing you here. 🙋🏾‍♂️

@honestalex5790

3 жыл бұрын

Lol im barely 21 and I remember the scene too. That shit was poppin' till prob 2015. Man the scene era went on for 3 strong waves. Early 20yr olds lived this too, although us younger ones mostly just got to enjoy the falling action of the era but man shit was poppin', all of this was still very alive in our early teen years

26:16 You could say Dahvie was something of a Minor Threat himself heheheheh

You are so talented. You definitely have a real gift for storytelling. I’m not a fan of this type of music but I am a huge fan of great stories. When you have the ability to draw people in who don’t have an interest in the subject matter ... that is rare and you could have a real future in journalism or writing.

*reads blood on the dance floor lyrics* KZread: Hippity Hoppity Your Revenue Is Now My Property

I always thought Dahvie looked gross lmao even at 15 I thought the dude couldn’t sing and looked like a weirdo. I was definitely a Jayy girl and most of the fans I met were too, so I’m really surprised hearing these victim testimonies about the line to see Dahvie being crazy long and nobody giving Jayy attention at shows.

@phluffie

4 жыл бұрын

to be fair even though i wasn't and will never be a fan of botdf, jayy for me was the attractive one at least???? dahvie looks hideous man, like no offense, he really just isn't good looking whatsoever.

@PollyGammy

4 жыл бұрын

Jayy was stunning. Dahvie went into his surgeon and must have asked for his face. His plastic surgery makes him look like a busted Jayy.

@RaaaaadicalLarry

4 жыл бұрын

clary Jayy definitely was the attractive one. And the talented member. I thought Jayy showed a lot of potential musically, it’s too bad Dahvie insisted on being the frontman of the band.

@cheycheyfriend247

4 жыл бұрын

oh yes i definitely was a jayy girl

@lilithjade4363

4 жыл бұрын

same i was obsessed with jayy. i’ve heard numerous times in interviews with the victims that some of them started out as exclusively jayy fans but then dahvie finds them and manipulates their attention. dahvie literally uses attractive gay men to lure women in- but without having competition. think about it. garrett and jayy are perfect examples of this.

I loved listening to jayy's voice in blood on the dance floor because his voice was so soothing

Having watched many documentaries on this subject I can say with absolute certainty this is one of the best and most thorough. The emphasis on explaining the music/scene that bred this guy is super important to the story and often left out of the videos on this subject. Shoutout to Cozy for killing the Rise and Fall videos consistently.

I'd also like to add if it hasn't. Ash Costello, lead singer for New Year's Day has a couple really uncomfortable encounters with Dahvie. Please watch her interview with Chris Hansen because it is so disgusting that nothing happened with what Dahvie did to her. She's a small little thing. Her mom is involved with law enforcement. They filed a report. Sent files after Ash came out revealing what happened to her, girls starting coming to Ash telling her details of what Dahvie had done to them. It was disgusting. Ash & her mom had a zip drive or something. Filled with evidence. It was destroyed.

@morbidhime

2 жыл бұрын

oh man :( wasn't that one video of him in a concert saying death threats towards someone in the crowd actually directed to ash?

@anti-ethniccleansing465

Жыл бұрын

How did it get destroyed? I don’t get it.

@Averyr91

Жыл бұрын

@@anti-ethniccleansing465 I’m wondering the same thing

Oh my god. The memories. My sister was a HUGE BOTDF fan back in the day (I preferred BVB myself) and she HATED Jessie Slaughter so much and participated in sending hate her way. I was younger than my sister but I remember being really disturbed. What a wild time.

@bobbycoleman-co7mc

Жыл бұрын

How did your sister react when all the allegations started coming out?

Your laugh is so telling. I’m glad I found your page! Going to binge watch now 😂❤️

Let's be real, we were all fans of Jayy 😂💕

@DxmSanchez

3 жыл бұрын

Jay von.... What a performer!

@jinkieez

2 жыл бұрын

literally

@peguinish

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

"your gossip has turned me into an indestructible celebrity." are you sure about that one,buddy?

Give this man the Purple Heart for publicly admitting to liking Dot Dot Curve. Salute, comrade.

Great video man! Been searching for an in depth history video of BOTDF. Keep putting out great content.

Your vibes are so pure dude. Loving the video already. I have to see more of your content!

I died laughing when you started reading what he had written on his page.

i never knew that i needed the phrase "getting crunk in the club" in my life till now

@Dreigonix

2 жыл бұрын

It’s just so deliciously mockable. XD

you did a great job covering it! also your laugh makes my day!

It makes zero sense that you do not have at least a few hundred thousand subs... You deserve them! Such quality conent (awesome editing and so 😮informative!!) Thank you for doing what you do!!!

Great video man. I was a BOTDF security guard and you did a really good job reminding people how ridiculous that stuff was. Good job showing the Millionairs, those chicks were nuts.

@cameron1077

Ай бұрын

What was being a security guard for them like?

I went to two shows back in the day with my blue hair and snake bites and I met Dahvie and Jayy and my mother recently brought up the pictures to me, she went to the first show with me and sat in the back with another very uncomfortable mom 😂 honestly though it gave me the biggest panic attack as someone who went through childhood trauma that trusted these people to then have Dahvie hugging me in a picture now knowing what he's done. It sent me into a crying fit. I hope the survivors of him can heal and that he can never create a new victim, and that he rots in prison where he belongs. Anyway, great video, didn't take yourself too seriously but also very factual and respectful. ❤

I love your video and personality its so sweet and genuine throughout the video !

He’s the R.Kelly of crunckcore

okay not the point, but when you brought up "Dot Dot Curve :)" you opened a vault of memories I totally forgot I had *streams Rocketshiptothemoon*

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

hahahaha yessss :)

@rosenars6665

4 жыл бұрын

Me too lol

@felicityannmarie1725

4 жыл бұрын

Dot dot curve was my shit haha

@howdytherestranger2139

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve legit listened to that track every day for the past four days lmao the rawring 20’s are really here

@filip6994

3 жыл бұрын

*rocketshiptothemonn LOL

"I did watch the whole Bad Blood Documentary." I've never felt worse for someone before.

Amazing video! I have seen a few videos about this subject but it hasn't been done like you! Keep up the good work!!

As someone who knows nothing about this i got SO invested in this video, thanks for explaining everything and doing a proper timeline! :D

Two things I’m waiting for: the right Covid-19 vaccine, Dahvie getting arrested.

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

Well we have the covid-19 vaccine, now all we need is Dahvie getting arrested.

@thehunterstruck

2 жыл бұрын

Nah we really need to see a vigilante whoop the ever living shit out of him and then have him arrested and then an “accidental” footage release of him getting the living shit beat out of him in jail lmao

@juliedunbar6109

2 жыл бұрын

COVID is china and US government fault

@kylehegedus5498

Жыл бұрын

One down, one to go!

Dude, say what you will about cancel culture, but I'm actually pretty damn proud of this new generation of kids who aren't putting up with the bullshit that mine did. If BOTDF came out today they would have been cancelled instantly and no one would give a shit cuz they're trash. Unfortunately i knew too many peers who would hear allegations like these and say "well they're just rumours" and brush it off. Also they were just a terrible terrible band and i will never understand how anyone unironically liked them.

@MegaNancyLover

3 жыл бұрын

Cancel culture can be good if used properly, but some people take it to a radical level.

@BoneyardBrigade21

3 жыл бұрын

....I hope your generation takes care of mumble rap sometime soon...

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoneyardBrigade21 it depends as what you define as "mumble rap"

@Bannanawaffles2

3 жыл бұрын

@Lifesucks! Sodoesgoogle Nah, that's literally scaremongering bullshit. "Cancel Culture" is just what reactionaries call people facing the consequences of their actions. The government has literally nothing to do with it. What we're seeing is social media enabling people to raise awareness virally about the actions of problematic people and making it known that if you're not okay with the shit they've done, be it sexual assault, being a racist shithead, etc - That you should know and perhaps consider not supporting said person. In the case of sexual assault and pedophilia, yes, they'll probably get arrested, but that's not the result of the government engaging in "cancel culture", that's them breaking the fucking law lmao.

@Bannanawaffles2

3 жыл бұрын

@Lifesucks! Sodoesgoogle There's also an important distinction between the "government" taking action against someone and an independent company (which is not bound by the first amendment), like Twitter or KZread, taking action against people (ie, banning, etc) who break their terms of service. Same goes for a corporation dropping their relationship with a person who's views they think may hurt their image. Worth mentioning since people really fail to understand that corporations aren't bound by those same rules, they make business decisions to protect their bottom line and if someone being racist is damaging to them, they have no legal obligation to continue serving them a platform.

Just found your channel and binging on all your videos, truly love how in depth everything is! Keep it up

thank you so much for shouting out dot dot curve! they do not get enough credit for their contributions to scene culture!

I was a HUGE, and I mean FOOKIN' HUGE fan of BOTDF when I was younger. I listened to their music every day and even did art projects inspired by them and their style. I started to dress more "scene" that "emo" and even had electric blue streaks in my hair instead of the jet black I usually would have. I had merchandise including t-shirts and pin badges and I had two of their albums. Speaking of which, I still have a t-shirt and the two CD albums. I didn't really take in what people said about Dahvie, I would hear wat people said and be like "oh, really?" And not believe it because I knew first hand that people make up atrocious rumors and lies about people they hate because bullies did that to me in school. Now I know he is a real monster and feel bad for buying their merch and albums and supporting Dahvie Vanity. I feel like Jay Von Monroe was a victim of Dhavie Vanity in other ways, as he was a fan of Dahvie from the beginning, that immediately gives Dahvie power over Jay because when you are young and easily manipulated you'll do pretty much anything to stay relevant to your idol and believe their lies. Dahvie knew he had a power dynamic over any of his fans he encountered.

@IMJUSTWANTTO

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I really feel you this was a really deception but is good to have good memories Sometimes at that era

@moodywyvern8013

4 жыл бұрын

@@IMJUSTWANTTO Yeah I don't know what I'm gonna do with all my old tops, I have so many band shirts of Black Veil Brides and other bands alike and they are sentimental to me haha

@IMJUSTWANTTO

4 жыл бұрын

@@moodywyvern8013 yeah is hard

@creatrixZBD

4 жыл бұрын

Moody Ferret cut them into long strips (there are heaps of vids on yt that show you how) and braid the strips and make a floor rug out of them (also how-to’s on yt). Then you’re forever wiping your feet/stepping on DV whenever you walk on the mat 🖤 Edited to add: i don’t mean use the ones of bands you like. Those you can cut all the patches off and make into a collage cushion cover/pillowcase quilt or even a textile wall hanging. Even if you’re not a sewer, a local seamstress or Airtasker sewer wouldn’t charge you too much. (after things are less covi-weird, tho i suppose). Xx

Everybody talk about jayvonmonroe but nobudy remember one of the first band member Garret

@MeshyKitty

4 жыл бұрын

Garret Ecstasy. I wasn’t even a fan I know who he is lol

@scenesterstar

4 жыл бұрын

Garrett Ecstacy was the shit.

@itsmecupcakells

3 жыл бұрын

I remember Garrett. His voice is amazing.

Met Garrett when he worked at a bar in Downtown Orlando yearssssss after leaving botf. Didn’t know he was one of the vocalist of the group until we started talking. All and all dude is a around nice dude and never gave me any bad vibes.

Someone posted the link to this video in the comments of my nee Dahvie Vanity video. I just wanted to come and let you know that I have watched this video and I really enjoyed it. You did a very great job on this video and in your research. Thank you for making this.

When I was teen, I was always grounded every time botdf came into town for a show and now I see it was meant to be. Ty mom and dad

@melloncollie3321

Жыл бұрын

Good job getting into trouble to keep yourself out of trouble

@kawaiifacemiles

Жыл бұрын

@@melloncollie3321 it was divine intervention 😌

@melloncollie3321

Жыл бұрын

@@kawaiifacemiles someone or something was looking out for you, for sure!

Omg. I remember the music being bad but not that bad. That was awful. Haha. Great video though!!

@thecozyrep

4 жыл бұрын

thank you! :)

@KiteAndKeyProductions

4 жыл бұрын

Somehow it makes The Medic Droid sound good

@ameenaewok1668

4 жыл бұрын

When I hear the music I just end up laughing, so baaad haha

@natashablack2676

4 жыл бұрын

@@KiteAndKeyProductions Damn dude, I forgot about them lol

@KiteAndKeyProductions

4 жыл бұрын

@@natashablack2676 I'm sorry to have reminded you then LOLOL

The YT recommend gods have smiled upon me and now you have a new subscriber! Great video!

Wild I listen to New Years Day on the regular. Didn't expect them to come up in this. Great vid btw

As a former scene kid I really appreciate your channel, there were so many bands I had completely forgotten about that you've covered (NeverShoutNever to name a few) and it brings back a lot of memories. Thank you.

I remember being way too young and really enjoying the Epic album and burning the cd to my family shared iTunes and I got grounded off the internet for an entire year

I remember going to the bad blood tour (not for them but for an opening band) and I remember some of the opening bands being so over the tour just because of the reputation of blood on the dance floor. The band’s opening for them were small (for one band it was their first large tour) and they would be told by fans “ I can’t go to the show because my parents don’t like the headliner”, and when you’re a small band that’s devastating.

Fun Fact: The cover photo for Motorhead's Ace Of Spades was actually shot in january of 1980 at a rock quarry near their hometown. They were actually freezing cold and miserable during the shoot, which is why they look so annoyed in the photo.