A lot of you guys have been asking, why do the other rings lose their power after the One Ring is destroyed? The One Ring was forged last, and so it might seem that when it's destroyed, the other rings would finally be free. But this is not the case. In the Silmarillion Tolkien writes that if the One Ring were destroyed, "the powers of the Three must then fail and all things maintained by them must fade." However, it's not really the destruction of the Ring that causes this, it's the destruction of Sauron. The key to understanding this is to understand Sauron's gift to Celebrimbor. He gave the elves of Eregion the gift of 'Ring-lore', and Ring-lore is a part of Sauron's craft. It comes from him. Just as some First Age Elven craftsmen invested their swords with a part of their own cold hatred for orcs, and that's why they glow blue when orcs are near; all Rings of Power are invested with Sauron's Ring-lore. They are powered by the Dark Lord. Even the Three that were forged by Celebrimbor alone. They were still forged using Sauron's lore. And so when the One is destroyed, and Sauron's power fades from Middle-earth, the power of the Rings fades too. Because, ultimately, all rings had their source in Sauron.

@yeahtube69

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you ! =)

@kblargh

2 жыл бұрын

I was just in the middle of writing a rant about that... then i looked down.

@tuorofgondolin8235

2 жыл бұрын

I'm going to have to disagree with you a bit here. The Elven-smiths were *already* working on creating increasingly powerful magic rings before Sauron showed up. However, Sauron accelerated and deepened their understanding, allowing them to begin work on the 16 Rings of Power, which Sauron assisted them in completing. But it is important to keep in mind that the Elven-smiths had a reason for creating these Rings of Power: they wanted to stop the fading that they were already starting to experience. In other words, what they wanted to accomplish was against the natural order of the world, and they knew it but proceeded anyway. All of the 16 Rings (and the 3) were intended to be used by Elves and for Elves. They don't turn Elves invisible, nor do they make them undying since they're naturally immortal. These are all side-effects of *mortals* using the Rings of Power. I don't think that all of the Rings of Power use Sauron's personal power, only the Ruling Ring explicitly does so, as it was needed in order to control the other rings and their bearers. The 16 rings work according to who is using them: which for Men is particularly bad, but even for Dwarves is probably not very good. The 3 Rings use their bearer's power, otherwise the works they made/supported would've been infected by the evil and darkness of Sauron, and that wasn't the case.

@TravelatorH8r

2 жыл бұрын

So Sam planted the deku tree....interesting lol thank u

@eccehomonohomo

2 жыл бұрын

Tolkien had influences. Your explanation would benefit by referring to the Oera Linda or old Scandinavian religion. Wagner wrote a 30 hour play about the Rings that are in LOTR

Nobody can see Nenya, making it Nenya business.

@owlbusdumbledork9966

2 жыл бұрын

Some elf dude: What's that sparkly light by your hand? Galadriel: Nenya Some elf dude: I mean you don't have to be a dick about it.

@gent_Carolina

2 жыл бұрын

Ty, this doesn't sound as blasphemous in text as it did in my head lol.

@victoriousf.i.g.3311

2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

@KangMinseok

2 жыл бұрын

OP is gangsta 4 life

@theenigma6160

2 жыл бұрын

@@owlbusdumbledork9966 Some Elf Dude: *Alright, then. Keep your secrets.*

Sauron could have just saved himself a lot of trouble if he'd designed the One Ring with 2-Factor Authentication. And instead of fiery letters proclaiming its dark nature, they light up with the letters: 'To activate this product, please send a self-addressed envelope and return postage as well as the end-user's name, age, race, and any special delivery instructions to:: D. Lord 1000 Nazgûl Way Mordor, IN" Also, make the ring out of tungsten instead of gold (3x higher melting point than lava), and pretend to be defeated if the heroes cast it into a volcano, only to fish it out after they've left.

@Alresu

2 жыл бұрын

Well, hindsight is twenty-twenty.

@nicolasbsmith78

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@davidw.2791

2 жыл бұрын

@cak01vej Not to mention, if the movies are anything to go by, Sauron will eventually crush everybody even without the Ring on his finger, just from having it still exist.

@somehandle516

2 жыл бұрын

D Lord. He he hehehehe, runs away

@somehandle516

2 жыл бұрын

But he kind of did it, in mayar way, no one else could not claim it's strength without corrupting himself

One of my favorite subtle moments in the movies was in Return of the King, right before Aragorn charged at the orc army at the Black Gate. Gandalf subtly lifts is hand as Aragorn looks back at him and you get the most minor glimpse of Narya. This is right after the mouth of Sauron had told them that they had captured and killed Frodo and given them the mithril shirt. I have always interpreted this as Gandalf revealing the ring to Aragorn as a way to say "He doesn't have the ring yet, if he did I would know". A last glimmer of hope for them as they all charged in "For Frodo". I could be wrong, that was just always my interpretation.

@CP-mb7ly

Жыл бұрын

Interesting! I think you're onto something since Narya is the ring to rekindle the spirits of men, AKA the ring of fire given to Gandalf by Cirdan the shipwright, who told Gandalf he would need it.

@badnoodlez

9 ай бұрын

not a bad interpretation bc it totally tracks.

@paulgalligan1916

9 ай бұрын

Sounds legit 👌

@geoffwhitemusic

8 ай бұрын

😮

@EireHammer

5 ай бұрын

Good interpretation!!! Makes total sense to me!

Gandalf having the ring Narya kind of makes a lot of sense. He's always nudging things behinds the scenes to move in a certain direction. He's always the catalyst for change and resistance where others just sit on their hands.

@cluelessincalifornia9134

Жыл бұрын

The red ring's power as used by Gandalf was to inspire people to be their best self.

@piotrd.4850

Жыл бұрын

Tzeentch approves this message :) so does Captain Planet.

@ufc990

Жыл бұрын

thats like, the entire point, yea?

@piotrd.4850

Жыл бұрын

Well... but it would stand to reason rings would somehow REACT to each other's direct presence.

@sheikhshit

11 ай бұрын

All he did was give Frodo's uncle a little nudge out of the door

Gandalf being one of the secret ring bearers the whole damn time is one of the greatest literary plot twists I've ever heard.

@Navesblue

2 жыл бұрын

@Utube Fknsucks I mean during the main story with Frodo.

@mootame9430

Жыл бұрын

If you see The Hobbit, the Orc is about to cut the finger of Gandalf with a power ring on it

@galahgl

Жыл бұрын

I believe Cirdan gave Gandalf the ring when he first arrived in Middle Earth at The Grey Havens. Which would imply meteor guy is not Gandalf.

@goretoriumgaming8600

Жыл бұрын

@@galahgl I'm almost 100% sure it's sauron

@galahgl

Жыл бұрын

@@goretoriumgaming8600 oh I hope it isn't Sauron. Because he wasn't aware of Hobbits until he tortured Gollum and found out the one ring was in the Shire with Bilbo.

I love the line "Although time may be slowed, it cannot be stopped. Things must be preserved and protected, but in the end, they must also pass on"

It amazes me how detailed a world was created by JRR Tolkien. So much thought, effort. Not a single thing is without reason or meaning in this world. What a spectacular work of imagination and art. What devotion it must have taken to write this world into existence. Keep in mind, when he would have painstakingly written them, there would have been no guarantee that the books would be successful or even remembered. I have no words to accurately express my respect, wonder and gratitude.

@gent_Carolina

2 жыл бұрын

He originally created the world for himself. His friend C.S. Lewis pushed him to publish.

@Kornchipzzz

Жыл бұрын

Nice name

@owenlindkvist5355

Жыл бұрын

A shame the Rings of Power TV show creators are fucking up royal.

@zhain0

Жыл бұрын

@@gent_Carolina wait a sec, im new to all this stuff. he made the world and books just to write a story for himself?!

@gent_Carolina

Жыл бұрын

@@zhain0 Short answer: yes 😊 it was a personal hobby Longer answer He was a professor at Oxford Univ., England & was in a writers' club called *_the Inklings_* w/ C.S. Lewis. He had an interest in Norse epic saga style & languages, which related to his English literature focus bc old Anglo-Saxon was an amalgamation of several languages due to influx of invaders & expanding tribes, etc. Lots more info available via documentaries, but _Tolkien's son or grandson_ gave some biographical info in *_introduction to the Simarillion_* & throughout various *_Appendices of LOTR, Hobbit, & Silmarillion_*

I liked how you didn't immediately went to explaining how Sauron disguised himself as Annatar, not even because of spoiler or anything (I think most Tolkien fans already know that) but because from the elves perspective he really was just a helpful dude with some good ideas. idk I like this kind of pov storytelling

@nickgreen4731

Жыл бұрын

It's rather like the way Nazism took over Germany. It arrived as a movement of healthy outdoor activities and folk traditions. Tolkien wasn't allegorizing that, of course - but it's just a separate example of how evil often arrives with a smiling face.

@gejugfeguug5623

Жыл бұрын

@@nickgreen4731 yeah, mass genocide, fascism and eugenics sounds a whole lot like healthy outdoor activities to me too

@Matthew-li7we

Жыл бұрын

@@gejugfeguug5623 And this is the reason we need to have good Eugenics programs. To prevent idiots like your parents from breeding YOU into existence.

@emeryjones9701

Жыл бұрын

@@nickgreen4731keep😊

@emeryjones9701

Жыл бұрын

@@nickgreen4731 😊

I believe Tolkien also mentioned that Narya was one of the reasons Gandalf’s fireworks were so amazing. I know that’s not much, but it’s another little quirk that I love about the 3

@Mertztillithurts

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is true about Narya and G's fireworks. It also came into play in the woods east of the Misty Mountains in The Hobbit, against the squads of Wargs and Goblins. And again in his fight with the Balrog

@MariusThePaladin

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, yes, the ring of power. Power to make party livelier and to light acorns on fire.

@mylesleggette7520

2 жыл бұрын

@@MariusThePaladin That reminds me of that story about the girl who was cursed to obey all commands by a fairy who thinks that being obedient would make a great gift. (Ella Enchanted, I think?) She gets a lecture on safe uses of magic by another character with the example of whisking the shards of a broken plate into the trash with magic and she asks what the point of that is when she could just use a broom - why not use magic to fix the plate? I don't remember exactly what the response she gets is, but essentially it's about how it's okay to use a little magic to help something along, but anything that goes against what is natural/meant to happen can have dangerous, unforeseen consequences.

@Albtraum_TDDC

2 жыл бұрын

@@mylesleggette7520 cool story.

@Albtraum_TDDC

2 жыл бұрын

Was Frodo able to see Narya on Gandalf's finger, like he saw Nenya on Galadriel?

One to preserve, one to protect, and one to enkindle.

@samdold2482

2 жыл бұрын

Which one did the dude from shadow of war have

@thefisherking78

2 жыл бұрын

One to en...what

@joyfarmergal1222

2 жыл бұрын

@@thefisherking78 The dictionary definition says enkindle means to set afire, to make luminous... Sven, thank you for teaching me a new word! I enjoyed looking it up and learning about it.

@Filosofodeboteco2000

2 жыл бұрын

Shiva vishnu brahma

@Mertztillithurts

2 жыл бұрын

@@thefisherking78 Enkindle: to set afire; to ignite. A perfectly cromulent word!

In a way, Celebrimbor's 3 rings helped the undo the mistake he made in trusting Sauron, as they each played a crucial role in Frodo's quest. Pretty cool.

“If the ruffians had not cut down the Party Tree there would have been no place for Sam’s Malorn.” Such an incredible encapsulation of Tolkien’s primary theme! Brings me to tears. Thank you so much for your insights into these stories that matter so much to so many. You are a gift to any Tolkien fan!

@tolkienuntangled

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jimgodfree

3 ай бұрын

Meh. The mallorn is a lame replacement for the original Party Tree.

I always loved how the one ring was effectively useless for most of middle earth and downright harmful to the beings who could use it (excluding Sauron). It shows how pointless greed is. It's really good irony that nobody seems to bring up.

@dalibornovak9865

2 жыл бұрын

it's also how it is with power structures and mafias. it's always serving the one above you so your greed to participate in the power is pointless - once you are used, there is no more use for you and you are eliminated. if you participate on the evil/power/greed then you are only enjoying very short-lived illusion, in fact serving to the one above you, and if you dispose others, then you should be aware you will be disposed of as well. it's the simple nature or physics that if you put your energy to trust, you can be betrayed but if you put your energy to mistrust and abuse, you actually know for sure you will be abused yourself. praying to greed and killing others means you help to kill and abuse yourself. why would someone above you in the mafia structure who does the same as you do otherwise and save you? I can't understand how rarely anyone realizes that inbound character of evil, that if you do evil you will suffer the evil yourself. why people help mafia when it is so clear they themselves will be killed much sooner than they would naturally die?

@Noctournis

2 жыл бұрын

Really, it was never much good to Sauron, either. He never managed to enslave the Dwarves or Elves with it, he lost it bombastically and was forced incorporeal for millenia, and never got it back before its identity as his Achilles' heel was used to eliminate him.

@valkyriefrost5301

2 жыл бұрын

@@Noctournis - You're looking at it in hindsight. In the SA, after the fall of Morgoth, Sauron was left standing the strongest in Middle-Earth. Yet, he understood (and feared) the strength of Elves and Dwarves and Men, especially when they were united. He knew he needed more than his own innate power in those days if he was to recreate the realm of his former master.

@randomgraham4302

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve always kind of had the same feeling, besides extending your life and invisibility. But we can only assume that Bilbo spent a lot of time between the hobbit and fellowship time period sitting in his house and caressing the ring to the point it broke him mentally. It is a good example of greed and the corruption of the self that comes along with it.

@nunya___

2 жыл бұрын

@Noctournis I always felt that since much of his power was put into the ring, it's continued existence is what allowed him to come back. So, much better than most life insurance policies.

With the knowledge that Gandalf bears Narya, when he states in Return of the King "Hope is kindled." It gives so much more emphasis, depth and wonder. Really enjoyed learning more about Middle-Earth lore.

@valkyriefrost5301

2 жыл бұрын

This is what set Tolkien apart from most all other fantasy writers. He built a world and interwove the stories and thus, the dialog, with that world and its history. The fragments and short stories that became the Silmarillion was just the back stories and notes for his world building in creating TLotR.

@indio4-215

2 жыл бұрын

@@valkyriefrost5301 Actually, Tolkien considered the Silmarillion to be his most important work, with the Hobbit and the LOTR as just spin-offs or sequels to the Silmarillion.

@oreoicecream1829

2 жыл бұрын

@@valkyriefrost5301he might love one piece 😁

@oreoicecream1829

2 жыл бұрын

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I’m six episodes in on the series about these rings and never learned as much as the opening 30 seconds of this video

I think a key to understanding any of the rings of power (especially the One), is to look at where that power came from. For the One, the books are pretty explicit in telling that Sauron poured much of his spirit (malice, desire to rule, etc) into it and thus, it became an extension of Sauron and something that could amplify those traits when he was wearing it. Similarly, he put a touch of himself into all of the other rings as well. So did Celebrimbor in forging the 3. Even though he forged that apart from Sauron, he used Sauron's skills and teaching and, thus, some of Sauron's will to dominate became bound into them too (in those cases, the will to overcome time, sickness and despair). I think that you can actually see some of Sauron's influence in the 3 elven rings in the behavior of Galadriel, Elrond and even Gandalf. All three struggled with the idea of just getting things done by dominating those around them. Once the One was undone, so was most of Sauron's spirit/essence and the ability of any of the rings to extend the wearer's will.

@maryjoyspohrer256

2 жыл бұрын

The one main difference about the Elven Rings is that although they were forged using Sauron's methods, they did not contain his blood which was the key binding element in the other rings. Blood called to blood, which is how his spirit managed to stay connected to Middle Earth, but also why he needed it back in order to become corporeal once more.

@bjsuits

2 жыл бұрын

Certainly so. In the comments of a similar video by Nerd of the Rings, we were talking about the Hroa (physical) and the Fea (spirit) and I hypothesize that in order to *give* the ring its power Sauron’s “formula” drew from Sauron’s own spirit. This would be part of the reason why he was pissed when he found out. As you mentioned celebrimbor put himself into the ring so while connected to the One it wasn’t directly controlled by Sauron. (As you know the 9 were tied to Sauron and as he gained power so did the 9). This may have been an allusion to Milton’s “Paradise Lost” where Lucifer poured his power into creating machines of war and each transformation he undergoes is less prominent than the last. Also something I theorized was that while the three have their own specific powers I believe a common theme among them is that they draw out the wearer’s own attributes (dwarves become greedier, cruel men more cruel etc). So a Man whose spirit let’s say was a lake was able to draw out a buckets worth of his potential rather than a cup. But in doing so, a toll must be paid. For awhile you feel stronger but eventually you are dependent on it as you drain your own self and literally feed the ring your spirit. Your own Hroa or body (held together by the Fea or spirit) is like a jar with oil inside. The oil is required to cover every corner yet by pouring it into another container like the ring you feel “stretched and thin”. This goes further…those that once held a ring (even if it is lost) cannot die a “natural” death. Bilbo and Gollum (both well beyond their lifespans compared to Gandalf the elves and dwarves) cannot die. They age and fade (and like the 9 might become wraiths themselves) but as we know once the body dies the Fea is sent to the hall of Mandos. The rings, after being held and used, contains a part of their Fea and so they are tethered to the world. All the ring bearers must go to the west in order to heal and they bring the rings with them (except the rings that were destroyed) not only to restore themselves but also the ring bearers who passed before them. Sauron who poured out everything can’t even form a spirit let alone anything else and is blown to the wind much like saruman; unable to return to the undying lands.

@michaelforansich8090

2 жыл бұрын

THIS IS PROBABLY TOO DEEP , BUT.. I'm not sure this is accurate : " that Sauron poured much of his spirit (malice, desire to rule, etc) into it" - it's more likely that he wanted to be the one to hold sway over those who didn't know as much or know what was best - ie: narcissistic traits that all sociopathic warmonger's have - that eventually reach the point of domination or death. no malice there. The narco believes they are doing "good". He didn't care whether they were eliminated or not, nor even who they were, provided there was still enough loyal servants to bring him glory. Interestingly if there's not an enemy to give them this purpose, they will find a way to make one. That's how the people in this world have always been at war of some type, militarily - economically - ideologically...

@samueldimmock694

2 жыл бұрын

@@maryjoyspohrer256 Where did you get this? It's not in the books.

@maryjoyspohrer256

2 жыл бұрын

@@samueldimmock694 I'm not sure that I remember luv. Most likely just saw an interesting post. I've only seen the films and I don't have a firm base on the books. I have noticed over the years....the books are better because you can get more information from the written word.

It’s so sad, Lothlorien fading and Arwen dying there. Almost brings a tear to my eyes thinking of how ghostly the realm must’ve seemed once abandoned. Arwen alone there passing on.

@Kryptarch

2 жыл бұрын

I know right? Its really sad tbh... but the elves and ringbearers all went to the Undying Lands. Magic still exists there :) I wish I could live in the world of the Eldar...

@jeremybrocknblue5593

2 жыл бұрын

Are you guys gonna be ok?

@Kryptarch

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeremybrocknblue5593 I’m not sure man, I’m not sure :/ lol

@TimothyHuffGuitar

2 жыл бұрын

😫😫😭😭🤧 It's terribly sad. Especially when you are swept away into that world in reading the books. Watching the movies just doesn't bring the same emotion. I'm so glad I read The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings before the movies released. I didn't read The Similarian, The Children of Hurin, or any of the novels finished by Christopher Tolkien until after the movies released though. They were great reads on their own. I loved reading about Gondolin and Feanor and the fight against Melkor and Angband.

@YendorSignemeck

2 жыл бұрын

Jeremy BrocknBlue 😆😆

I'm always amazed how closely the rings of power mirror the concepts of computer hacking. Sauron made a bunch of killer apps people couldn't resist, but with a bunch of back door exploits installed. I wonder if Tolkien was following a similar parallel back in 1937, maybe with code breaking and ciphers or something.

@JayDS-ef6vj

6 ай бұрын

Capitalism

@KToll5784

5 ай бұрын

@@JayDS-ef6vjChekism

@losthor1zon

5 ай бұрын

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@DAMusic-qu2ec

4 ай бұрын

Uhhh no

Man, what a masterpiece. Feels like all things always happen for a reason in Tolkien's world.

When I was young I read the Hobbitt and absolutely fell in love with it. I read the all the LothR books after and I thought that was the end of it. But years later I researched Tolkien and realized, after learning, that that is just on the ending of the Third Age. I was blown away with all the details. Tolkien had even written other non-Middle Earth books.

That completely enriched my understanding and appreciation of the whole story. Thank you!

It actually makes sense that the story is about death and the desire for deathlessness. In ancient Egyptian lore at least the west was the land of the dead and when anyone from peasant to pharaoh died their soul was ferried there on The Mesket (the boat of the evening) and greeted on the other side by the goddess Amentet (she of the west) who gave them their first meal they would eat as as a dead person (just bread and water actually) and gave them a pep talk to encourage them before they started on the dangerous journey to the field of reeds.

I believe that the rings were made as follows. Elves = Properties of air, water, and fire, with various effects based around these elemental powers. Dwarves = Properties of the earth, which allowed them to find the treasures within the earth without fault, no matter where they might be, leading to their great hordes, and the cities built over the greatest concentrations of them. Being the practical beings they were, it is doubtful they would have expended the time, effort, and waste of resources in building the massive cities they did if they were not certain that the deposits of gold, precious metals, and jewels beneath them would last for as long as their race did. Humans = Properties of life and death, of the body and soul, which allowed them to have the same near-immortal lifespans as elves and dwarves, and for their souls to remain sentient, sapient, and corporeal on Middle-Earth without passing over, even if they should lose their physical bodies, humans having the same fear of growing old as they did of dying and not knowing what would come next. Every ring gave it's wearer near immortality, perpetually keeping their bodies free of age, minor wounds, and disease, so they need not fear growing too old to rule, or the changes a new ruler might institute when they were gone, their races having the same rulers for all time, keeping the humans, dwarves, and elves of the world in a perpetual stagnant status-quo, without any real growth or change, even if the rulers were all good and fair at the time of the gifting of the rings. Even as Smeagol/Gollum was emaciated and missing most of his teeth, he was still protected from these things by the One Ring, the state of his body a result of his way of living, and the regenerative properties of the ring helping him to survive in his new environment by constantly replacing old cells with new ones that would enable him to survive in a dark, cold, stagnant cave, altering his body over time, and to be able to eat raw food without fear of disease, his body only possessing enough calcium to have six (or nine) teeth in his mouth, but these teeth likely being able to be regrown after being lost, the ring having discarded his need for the other teeth to enable him to have enough calcium to constantly regrow the teeth he had over time, which he kept sharpened to help them last longer on his diet of raw meat and bones, the bones likely providing some of the the calcium needed in their rebuilding. Had he lived a normal life, his body likely would have had the same look as Bilbo's did, and that his long association with the ring, before Bilbo stole it, maintained the power within his body, although the power within him was growing ever lower, and age was ever so slowly catching up to it the longer he was away from it, making him more deteriorated by the time he met Frodo, but, still alive. The rings were all rings of command, allowing each race to control their race, overtly, as needed, but, more likely, in a more passive fashion, the wills and thoughts of the bearers of the rings conveyed throughout their kingdoms to their peoples, keeping everyone happy, preventing lawfulness and disobedience, and, in general, causing the people to exist in a quasi-hive mind society, even as they still had free will if not acting against the desires of the rulers desires to do what was best for their subjects. The purpose of the One Ring was to both use the other rings to have command over all the races through the lesser rings wearers, as well as to have access to the powers of fire, earth, water, air, life, and death through it's lesser rings, either for it's user to command the powers themselves, or to command those who had the rings to use. To have all the powers of creation in the single ring likely would have destroyed the ring outright, and/or done the same to it's wearer if they should try to access those powers, no matter how powerful and nearly indestructible the ring was. But, in creating a network of lesser rings to take power from, the powers of the One Ring were all siphoned from each of the other rings, most likely through the astral plane, which allowed one to partially enter it, so that they could see the power that was being siphoned into the ring, and back out of it after it was no longer needed, as the power involved likely would have wreaked havoc on the prime material plane, passing through solid structures and creatures going back and forth between the rings. Sauron likely only used a tiny fraction of the power needed for this to draw in and release the energies from the ring, enabling him to still remain seen, even as he used the powers of the ring, but, others, like Bilbo and Frodo, unaware of what the purpose was, sent more of their physical forms into the astral plane, causing their invisibility, while still being substantial in the prime material universe, the ring acting as an anchor to safeguard the wearer from being pulled wholly from the physical world, and into the realm of death.

For me when Gandalf is facing the Balrog he is chanting a spell of protection, conjuring the strength of the ring, and that's why he reveals to his enemy that he posses the ring, during the books people rarely use actual magic, maybe in part because in this world that means revealing secrets when performing actual spells, so they use it very carefully.

@uncletiggermclaren7592

2 жыл бұрын

The Keepers of The Three great rings specifically choose to keep them hidden, it talks about this in the Silmarillion.

@HerculesBallsInc

2 жыл бұрын

I think the Fellowship's time in Lorien tells a different story. Many of the elves relate that outsiders think that EVERYTHING they do is magick but to them it is simply the way that they do things. Remember the boats which right and almost steer themselves, the rope which unties itself only when its user needs and whose touch can burn evil, or the waybread which can sustain a man with a tiny bite. Each of these is considered a powerful magick item in fan works. It is perhaps more accurate to say that true magick in LoTR is (usually) very, very subtle in its manifestation. It makes things just 'work out' so that other people may not even understand that magick is happening. All of Lorien and Rivendell are wreathed in magick but nobody notices it directly... just its effects. And if you take that as your keystone to how magick works, you can probably find hundreds of instances of it in the books, from Legolas knowing from the sunrise that 'blood is spilled' to Gandalf summoning animal friends and generally finding the path to travel and making good fireworks. Even Frodo's miraculous persistence on his journey may be to no small part from drawing upon the ring's power at a low level. Now there are a few occasions where it is used like a blunt instrument to dramatic effect. But I would say that those manifestations are to the whole of magick what a lightning bolt is to all of electronics.

@uncletiggermclaren7592

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerculesBallsInc I think there is a great deal of truth in your thoughts there. Mithrander doesn't "cast" a spell of "hope", he simply sustains "hope" like an effect. In the same way that evil creatures like shelob cast "despair". Comes back to Tolkien's attitude, and probably his christianity. "Good" sustains, "evil" drains, because they ARE that way.

@pedrothevenard

2 жыл бұрын

@@HerculesBallsInc Yes, I might have expressed myself poorly, the word I should have used was spells, like an actual tangible high level spell, the characters produce magical light on many occasions, have slightly magical itens like boats, cloaks, daggers etc... Summon animals, control minds, heal others, and do other smallish things using magic in the books, but what I was referring was an actual physical manifestation of magical power in a meaningful way, like Gandalf fighting the Balrog, or in the movies when Arwen calls the water fighting against the Nazgul, not my favorite scene, but there are not many examples I can use, even Gandalf fight against Saruman was somewhat subdued, and I think the reason is that Tolkien magic system demands a high price to be used, be that secrets, life force or whatever, they never go deep in the way magic works, but seeing the scarcity of magic I imagine that there is a reason why that is, even the many magical itens we see in the series are somewhat explained because the fellowship is amongst the most powerful people in middle earth all the time, it is not like magical items are common at all, elves have a decent amount because they are powerful and old, very old, and during thousands of years they crafted a reasonable amount of itens, so did the dwarves, but they are in no way common.

@razatiger22

2 жыл бұрын

@yossarian The 3rd age used A LOT less magic than in ages prior. The world grew a disdain to magic as they realized the source of their power (Magic) was also the source of their despair (Sauron).

Thank you...this is a fantastic NEW LAYER that I wasn't aware of for all these 40 years of loving the story...Gandalf and his ring !!!

I'm here bec of Amazon's Ring of power 😁😁

This video was amazing. I'm a casual Tolkien fan but found your delivery real Interesting and accessible. 👍🏾

@tolkienuntangled

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.

These movies always remind me of addiction. When the One Ring is destroyed the others lose their “magic”. When someone defeats an addiction they lose the thing that made them superhuman. When Frodo is at the edge of the cliff in Mount Doom his mind and the ring are panicking. It’s as if he’s in a rehab facility and had just found some drugs that he’s now holding over an open toilet.

@qwertyTRiG

2 жыл бұрын

The films lean hard into a metaphor of addiction, certainly. I'm not sure there's anything so obvious in the novel.

@uncletiggermclaren7592

2 жыл бұрын

Sure, it is a possible reading of the theme. Are you ACTUALLY Lauren Metcalf ?

@phreakazoith2237

2 жыл бұрын

although the one ring's effect seems to be quite different on those who own it which kind of makes that reading difficult. Works fine with Gollum up to him being physically deteriorated by the ring, becoming this creep with rotten teeth always lusting for the ring and happy like a clown when getting his hands on it. and Frodo is about to walk that walk as well while Bilbo could handle it without getting too much of an addiction. But what about Isildur and especially Sauron? With the One Ring Sauron aint Tony Montana thinking the world is his while in fact he already lost everything. With the one ring Sauron rules the world.

@uncletiggermclaren7592

2 жыл бұрын

@@phreakazoith2237 In the works as written by Tolkien he literally says that Gollum survived as long as he did because Hobbits are naturally resistant. He also implies that Men were easy for Sauron to corrupt because we are naturally driven by our passions and faults.

@luvlols4462

2 жыл бұрын

I loved the Hobbit as a child but did not read the trilogy until later in life. Seeing Bilbo go from a sensitive, kind and relatable guy to desperate and careless in pursuit of keeping the one ring at his party.. starting to sharing mannerisms with Gollum 😓 definitely not far off from seeing someone you care about go through addiction.

The end of magic and the beginning of industry, represented by Saruman and Isengard. Iron, fire, deforestation, mass production and great furnaces. You could say that the destruction of the One ring did slow down that aspect of change.

@MankindFails

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It's about the world of machines against Humans. Like Avatar, Terminator, the Matrix, V for Vendetta and Lucas' Star Wars. Always pretty much comes back to that quote from Sitting Bull about the last tree...

@megatronbee

2 жыл бұрын

It's always the Lorax

@roryross3878

2 жыл бұрын

Yet the proper harnessing of industry and nature will liberate humanity.

@originalprecursor

Жыл бұрын

@@roryross3878 from?

@islayreptilianhybrids8947

Жыл бұрын

@@MankindFails welcome to the world we live in today

Thank you for this beautiful video. This expands my knowledge of the beautiful story Tolkien created. The part about Gandalf saying he is the the servant of secret fire, the wielder of the flame of Anor gave me chills.

The power of the elves ring its so fantastic, They dont trow lazer beams or poserfull spells but this power to kindle hearts its so amazing.

I'm not much for works of fiction, but LotR and Middle Earth are the great exception to that. When I hear about aspects of Tolkien's world, it really pulls at me emotionally. Imagine a world where these rings existed. Incredibly beautiful. Excellent work! Subscribed! :-D

@barahng

2 жыл бұрын

Same, never liked fantasy (always was more into scifi since it lends itself to exploring moral and philosophical questions opened by new technology) since I left my teens, but LotR always has a special place in my heart.

@V4Now

Жыл бұрын

You may enjoy Dunevif you've not tried it yet.👌🏾

Given that Morgoth and his lieutenant Sauron were only ever able to "distort and amplify existing characteristics" of whatever they touched and never create it is clear that the rings would only ever do exactly that themselves; even the elven rings which were made by Celebrimbor (but whose skills were unwittingly gained from Sauron) Hence, the rings were always going to be fundamentally wrong and so, at the very best, lead to sadness and eventual tragic loss but more likely to result in betrayal and death. The elves probably knew that but were that desperate to have something of their exiled past still with them that they were prepared to accept the risk. Once Celembrimbor had mastered the art of ring-making he realized he could almost recreate aspects of Valinor even though the whole noble enterprise did involve distorting "what was" into "something better"; and does that not remind one of Morgoth's and Sauron's desperate manipulation of how things were at the beginning. They did it to mock and punish but is it ever right to play with Illuvators work?

@HerculesBallsInc

2 жыл бұрын

It is an unanswered question whether the rings MUST behave the way they did. Certainly the ones we saw were part of a scheme which was realized too late to change what they were. Even so, Celebrimbor was able to produce a first effort that was largely free of Sauron's influence. It is not inconceivable that if he had spent more time working on them that he would have produced something entirely free of corruption. Perhaps this was part of the reason Sauron acted on the time scale he did - having shared his knowledge with Celebrimbor, he knew there was only so much time before it was used against him, so war had to be waged rather soon.

@davidclaert1237

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps we may learn in this new series, although I expect not to learn a lot, even to be vexed by some proposals.......but let me take this ride and be happy or not....;-)

@kool4209

9 ай бұрын

Yet thats not actually true. A valar made the Dwarfs, not Eru. You missed out on the main explanation. Eru states that even Morgoths rages and hatred is also apart of his design. Thats why he says go forth and prove thy will. Allowing him to corrupt the literal land with malice. Elves arent as smart as you make them to be, thats why they got enslaved and turned into orcs by Morgoths Will. Sauron even made Eru have to step in and reshape his original design because Sauron almost brought the sons of Numenor to the grace lands.

Your presentation is so effective in parsing the subtleties of Tolkien's legendarium, and forcing nostalgia as well. Full glad I am to have found your channel :>

I've always been a fan of LotR but I've never been huge into the lore but it is amazing how in depth it goes.

I always took the "flame of Anor" (the sun) to be a fancy name for sunlight; the kind that's stored as chemical energy in stuff that burns... cause Gandalf is good with fire. This is a threat to a creature of darkness like the balrog.

@budahbaba7856

2 жыл бұрын

But isn't the Balrog a creature of fire & shadow? Or was that an invention of the movies? While i did read the books, i only read them once. But i do remember very well how effectively Peter Jackson made the Balrog terrifying to the viewer in Fellowship of the Ring, and what a great job the actor Sir Ian did as Gandalf in playing it up!

@nunyabidness5375

2 жыл бұрын

@@budahbaba7856 Yes but the counter to the "fire" aspect is the Secret Fire or Flame Imperishable, the divine life force that is the opposite of the flame which devours.

@finnericson4392

2 жыл бұрын

@@nunyabidness5375 Nenya bidness lol

@michaelstuermer3915

2 жыл бұрын

The Balrogs are Maia as is Gandalf. I think he was letting the Balrog know that he was going up against a fellow Maia and should step back into the shadows or suffer the consequences.

@ArcherJadephoenix

2 жыл бұрын

@@budahbaba7856 I considered the Balrog flame very different from Gandalf's. Flame of Anor versus the flame of Udun.

WOW. This was so beautifully explained. You cleared up so many confusions to this wonderful world Tolkien created. Fantastic job my friend . Stay Gold.

You'd think Nenya (ring of water) and Vilya (ring of air) would be reversed because of their coloring. 🤷‍♂️

@tolkienuntangled

2 жыл бұрын

I've often thought that too

@samueldimmock694

2 жыл бұрын

That's actually the way I originally heard it, and it also makes more sense for their effects (water is often associated with healing; air is connected to communication, and Nenya granted/enhanced telepathic abilities). Apparently the names are derived from Quenya words, though (except Vilya, which literally means "air"), so I guess it is what it is.

@mirknight

Жыл бұрын

Celebrimbor was probably realising that halfway through designing the second. Artist problems.

@thinkfirstt

Жыл бұрын

Manwe, the valar associated with air, is blue. This is how I see it make sense.

@nickhewes6860

11 ай бұрын

Waters as clear as crystal and skies as blue as the oceans.

Not sure if you knew this, or not, but the name Annatar is actually quite fascinating. In Finnish the name Annatar could be understood as "Lady/Mistress of Giving" (The suffix -tar is in female form and is often used for deities such as Aallotar, Kivutar, or Tuonetar, all female deities of various things) from the base word of "Antaa", (The Quenyan word for "giving" being "anta") or "To give". Finnish is a peculiar language where words are twisted and combined to form words that would take entire sentences* to express the same meaning. To use the word in a sentence in the same form as "Annatar" one could say "Anna tuo vasara minulle", or "Give that hammer to me". There is no doubt in my mind that this is no coincidence as LotR loans a lot from the Finnish mythology, such as Kullervo, or the concept of the One Ring essentially being a Sampo. *One such example would be "Juoksentelisinkohan", which can be translated into "I wonder if I should take some running steps at various intervals of time".

@losthor1zon

5 ай бұрын

Tolkien was very fond of the Kalevala. It wouldn't surprise me if he learned Finnish and that it was an influence in his works.

@dylanstacey3514

5 ай бұрын

I think Finnish was his main source for a lot of the language and lore. Like he hit the jackpot when he learned about Finland.

A nicely poetic explanation of a poetically imaginative fictive world -- thank you!

It's clear that JRRT dropped the love triangle potential or whatever between Galadriel and Celebrimbor or it was just a tiny thought for a brief moment but I do not think their being cousins of a sort of "royal" line would be a deal-breaker for a Brit born before 1900. He literally grew up observing and influenced by that sort of thing being the norm.

@luna-csquared480

2 жыл бұрын

Love inspires; it doesn't have to be romantic love, it can be platonic. But Galadriel does inspire ;)

@Zeverinsen

2 жыл бұрын

I for one always liked that his stories didn't revolve around conventional romantic love and drama, instead focusing on friendship and loyalty.

@Raeat

2 жыл бұрын

I guess JRRT anticipated the whole Star Wars Luke-Leah thing and decided it wasn't really that good or useful of a subplot after all. ;)

@eliogabalopuzzetti496

2 жыл бұрын

After the two fratricidal battles at Alqualonde and Menegroth, i think she did not like so much the other branch of her family

@jbx1967

Жыл бұрын

True. Prior to the 20th century it was quite common for cousins to marry. Even now, in most states of the U.S., it's legal for second cousins.

What a great video, thanks! I enjoyed your telling of it and the things you emphasized. You gave things for 'long time fans' and new folks looking for information.

I really enjoy the style in which you present your research. Certainly much more approachable and even toned than some others who can get heavy handed with how impressive they want to convey they are.

Having consumed all of this obsessively years ago it was awesome to have all those bells rung and to be able to still finish some of your sentences with you. Perfect content. ✌️

I like how around the 11:17 mark you say ''there is a sweet side to this bittersweet moment''.' 👍

"There were 9, the 7, the 3 and the 1. Listen up all you hobbits while my tale is spun..." ~Lords of the Rhymes

I can also think of another hint that Gandalf has Nariel: after they set out from Rivendell, and are trying to decide which road to take between the redhorn pass and khazad dum, it specifically points out that Gandalf is rubbing one of his hands, as if age has worn his knuckles. This was always very weird to me when I read it, because it’s such a weirdly specific thing to point out, but now I think I understand.

Very interesting, when I read the Lord of the Rings back in the early eighties I was left a little sad in the end. I like your reasoning that it might be because it was the end of magic . Also that the elves where leaving Middle earth to men.

@bricaaron3978

2 жыл бұрын

Myself, I'm _always_ a little sad when a great story comes to an end. I fortify myself with the knowledge that I will indeed be enjoying it again after a suitable period of time has passed.

@mattbritzius570

2 жыл бұрын

For me, the pangs of melancholy at the end were eased by the rich appendix Tolkein left. It didn't feel like a harsh stop to the story. Rather, I could picture the trajectories of the characters slowly fading into the ever after.

What a wonderful video! Thank you for shedding light on the history of the Elven Rings. Some I knew and some I didn't.

You deserve a medal for this masterpiece. I was brought to tears.

This was a really fantastic video. Absolutely loved it, well researched and excellently edited, very concise and informative! Tolkien was truly a master worldbuilder!

"the flame of Anor" refers to the sun or rather the suns heat if you read Gandalf's back story he is associated with the two trees and the creation of the sun.....all that is to say that the Balrogs lost a major battle trying to destroy the sun and a huge number of them died...

@eldupont3095

Жыл бұрын

thats some good smack-talk

This was good. I liked the way you explained the power of the rings. I like how you went into depth of the rings and it’s power. Also the rings represents the purity that mankind possesses and also that resistance to corruption comes with spiritual gifts such as wisdom, honor, respect and true commitment to making the world a better place. It also represents that all good things don’t end but evolve into something greater. And nenya is my favorite of the 3 elven rings. It’s so beautiful

I've watched many videos about LOTR background history, but you are the most spell castingly enjoyable. Keep em coming ❤️

Such a wonderful video! Probably the best description behind what the Rings of Power truly were...enjoyed every moment. Thanks so much for making it!

so glad that you are making content again! we really missed you

Thanks so much for this Rainbow Dave, I was hoping for this one and it was even better than expected!

What little we're given points to Cirdan being ancient and a beast. In the Sil, it points Cirdan being alive during the Teleri's migration west. Possibly being born in Cuivinen. I believe that makes him potentially the oldest Elf in Middle Earth.

@dylan__dog

Жыл бұрын

He is 100% the oldest elf in middle earth And if I'm not wrong, the only elf described as having a beard

i read the Silmarillion and it is the best piece of printed words i have ever laid my eyes upon.

This is absolutely gorgeous and fantastic. Thank you for making this video!

I'm so glad someone is explaining this. Thank you.

This was very informative!!! Thank you so much for laying this out!

This REALLY explains things so clearly!!

I just loved the way you tackled these myths as what are the rings of power. Well done!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😉🏹🗡🛡🦅🔮☄️

A little known fact is that if you gather all of the rings together, you can summon Captain Planet.

Thanks for the lore I really enjoy listening to these. Keep up the good work!

Really appreciate your overall sentiment. Nice video!

Very minor correction! (Excellent video and I love your content) I was listening to the tolkien proff podcast and he implied that the Lorien Trees were modeled after the trees of Valinor, but were sang into existence by Galadriel herself. Just wanted to throw in my research!

Your research is very thorough. Thanks for sharing this good work.

That was awesome! I learned so much more about the context of the Lord of the Rings story, which means a great deal to me. Thank you.

Thank you. A wonderful commentary. You understand what Tolkein was writing about 🙏

Yey! Been waiting for your uploads man.😁👍

Brilliantly explained, so much passion, it’s rather inspiring how you told us about the rings.

@AceGarrison

2 жыл бұрын

Wondering if by any chance you are in possession of Narya... 🤔

Absolutely loved this video! Thank you! Subbed!!

Thank you for posting.

This is great- good research and editing etc! Well done!

Finally. I've always wanted to know what the hell they do. The movies were pretty vague.

I think the most hillarious of all about this is that we can really say with truth that it looks like it is *Sauron is making the Rings of Power*

I am a Vedic astrologer. So many things you said in this beautiful presentation were profound, eternal axioms I relate to from an astrological perspective. I read the books a few times in my childhood and adolescence. Thank you for speaking about the things that were difficult to tie together all those years ago. I loved the section about the invisibility of the ring that Galadriel wore. It also gave me a deeper understanding of the High Priestess card in the tarot. This card can be difficult to pin down in its meaning. You did such a great job with this video. It was beautifully spoken. Thank you.

Good to have you back, Rainbow Dave! I've never quite got my head around how the Three are linked to the One, and this cleared it up nicely. Cheers!

@davidpetrol7870

Жыл бұрын

That was detailed yet entertaining! Thank you!

I always thought that the three "Elvin" rings were invisible by all but a very select few, and even then at specific times allowed by the bearer. i.e. Frodo sees Galadrials ring yet Sam does not at the pool

I love the vusial part especially, thank you for the video 😍

You did an incredible job with this video!

As you've touched on here, one of the chief themes in Lord of the Rings is tragedy - a theme that was sadly lacking in the Jackson trilogy. When Galadriel aided Frodo, it wasn't a noble sacrifice; it was an acquiescence to the inevitable, like Brittany Maynard's self-scheduled death. She knew that Lothlórien and Rivendell were doomed; if the One Ring were not destroyed, Sauron would conquer all, including all the Elven realms, and they would in all likelihood all perish. With the One Ring back on Sauron's finger, their rings could not be used anymore anyway, and, even united, they could not hope to stand against The Enemy. One way or another, their time in Middle Earth was done. She had no real choice in assisting the Quest; the very best that could be hoped for by all the Elves was a peaceful departure and the voluntary abandonment of their withering home. The alternative was destruction. Similarly, the love between Arwen and Aragon, trivialized by Jackson as "As your father I forbid you to wed him" - "But daddy, I looooove him!", was in the book yet another tragic heartbreak; Elrond accepted the loss he would have to bear, to never see his daughter again until the end of days, and that was Tolkien's justification for the wisdom of death and why it was considered the Gift of Men: because the alternative, to live forever as did the Elves, was to guarantee eventually losing everything.

@gent_Carolina

Жыл бұрын

I disagree. Tragedy was evidenced quite well in the movies. I myself felt the loss of Boromir more keenly for having seen his valiant stand achingly portrayed by the magnificent *Sean Bean* The true weight of Faramir's decision to let Frodo go pierced me in the convo betw him & his lieutenant in the _Osgiliath_ scene. Fm Gandalf to even Gollum we see the suffering of loss that could've be avoided were it not for the One Ring. The fact that gobs more tragedy was described in the books does not diminish what was shown.

@kool4209

9 ай бұрын

thats because Arwens and Aragons story is actually Beren and Luthiens love story.

If it weren't for Durins ring, not only we wouldn't have The Hobbit but also The Lord of the Rings trilogy

Lovely video. Beautifully summarised .

Really glad to find this video now this New series has started. Thank you

Well done. Upvoted and I learned a few new things.

Great video. Hope it will help all of us fully understand the new Rings of Power series !

fascinating summary! Thank you for making this.

Such a great video!!! Rewatching it and will happily do so again!

I think Gandalf revealed his secret to the Balrog to taunt it. He was announcing in no uncertain terms that he was the Balrogs greatest enemy, and had an item so powerful the Balrog couldn't give up the chance of taking it. Giving the rest of the party a better chance of escaping.

@Ken-fh4jc

8 ай бұрын

Oh it was definitely Middle Earth version of trash talking.

Hello, I love the LOTR and The Hobbit series as well as the Lore behind them and the ancient stories that come with them. Please continue these series as much as you can i find them relaxing, and fascinating to listen to and learn of tolkien's other world, sometimes i too even wish to visit this world and even visit Rivendell to be in a place of serenity and peace.

@tolkienuntangled

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm really glad you enjoy the videos!

Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

Wow loved the breakdown bro!!

Here's a comment, because this was an excellent video. I've watched a few LotR content creators, and many say the same things. Few add something new. That's not the fault of the creators, Tolkien wrote his books generations ago. But this video added something new. I look forward to watching more from you. Subscribed.

Gandalf had a ring the whole time? I read the books & watched the films and never realized this. Mind blown 🤯

@IAmGRX

Жыл бұрын

Gandalf had it and this is how he was able to get people to do what he needed them to do. With it, he was able to fire up the passion in people's hearts and inflame a person's will and resolve to persevere. This helped Frodo keep the will to survive while Elrond used his ring to heal him after being stabbed by a Nazgul's blade. It also made it easier for Gandalf to inspire and lead armies and get them to follow him by igniting the passion and flame in their hearts. It's easy to see why Sauron wanted his one ring back. Because then he'd be able to rule Gandalf's ring and get him to make armies follow himself while ultimately being under Sauron's will. The ring of fire also helped Gandalf to light the way through tough puzzles and secrets which helped him figure out riddles and lore in his research. It also helped him make fantastic fireworks.

Thank you for this video :) .

you're such a good story teller. I love it.