Worst episode yet...? I kinda think so. Everything moves SO SLOWLY. The harfoots story barely moved at all. Arondir's storyline doesn't change from the moment of being captured, to the moment they're taking him to Adar. They could've done that right in the beginning of the show and NOTHING would have changed. The writing is amateurish. The pacing is abysmal. And the plot meanders into unnecessary places with meaningless consequences (often for characters we don't care about). And the slo-mo. THE SLO-MO!!! WHAT IN THE $#@! was that!? Did they get the slo-mo guys to be their Director of Photography on this episode?

@sladewilson9741

Жыл бұрын

That's what they want for everyone not aligned with their "vision". They love you, but stay behind and die.

@NovRen19

Жыл бұрын

And alas is shall go "out of the frying pan and into the fryer". Grear over view and EXSURGE TOLKIEN.

@hemmydall

Жыл бұрын

I lost it during the Galadriel slow mo. That derpy horse face slowly looking sideways; legitimately laughed out loud. No idea what the show runners were going for on that one.

@Johnny_Thunder

Жыл бұрын

@@hemmydall I was laughing my ass off literally. It looked like a parody. It shows how detached from reality the writers and directors are.

@rio20d

Жыл бұрын

seems like they stress too much on the Rrrs....when they pronounce the word that has "r" in it . Galadrrrriel....Numenorrrr....Harrrrfots......Elrrrrond.....Celebrrrrimbor...

"Elves have forests to protect, Dwarves their mines, Men their fields of grain. But we Harfoots have each other." That didn't age well.

@TheOneRingcom

Жыл бұрын

Can't believe I forgot that line! Apparently, the writers forgot it too... Jeez.

@borgheis

Жыл бұрын

They pulled a "Daenerys kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet"

@matroska_5625

Жыл бұрын

Elves cut down trees to make bows, dwarves smash up their mines to get ore, men harvest their fields of grain. Then Harfoots sacrifice each other so they can move 2mph faster to the next field to squat in.

@andygrams6344

Жыл бұрын

And move so quickly they can’t spare a moment to bathe.

@FireMunki63

Жыл бұрын

and yet we know that really it is second breakfast that they protect or should be protecting, lol.

Guyladriel referred to her ocean rescue as "being saved from certain death". So either she didn't realize jumping overboard into the middle of an ocean was a bad idea before doing it (which is dumb), or she knew it was suicide and did it anyway (which is REALLY dumb).

@Trygvar13

Жыл бұрын

Exactly since she would have ended up in Valinor anyway...

@hyvakoira

Жыл бұрын

To me it is different writers working on each episode and paying no attention to each other's creative outputs :)))/

@SandraOrtmann1976

Жыл бұрын

@@hyvakoira Where did this already go very wrong...ah...got it! Star Wars Sequel Trilogy.

@Astaldo88

Жыл бұрын

Considering her age its even dumber that A high elf with such wisdom,knowledge and experience thought jumping off the boat wouldn't be a dumb idea

@matroska_5625

Жыл бұрын

@@Trygvar13 No, she'd go to the Halls of Mandos, then after a long time, they could be reincarnated if they were good or go somewhere else if they weren't. If elves went to Valinor when they died, the Kinslaying wouldn't really mean much. Elves could just kill each other and they'd infinitely respawn like some sort of endless game of Battlefield.

This has turned into star trek discovery: violent actions, angry people, ungrateful unlikeable characters. Now i feel the pain of star wars fans and trekkies, watching their favourite series being defiled

@TheOneRingcom

Жыл бұрын

I'm just glad that, unlike Star Wars, Star Trek, and Doctor Who, they don't own ALL of it. I hope the Tolkien Estate keeps the rest of his works under wraps until something true that honors Tolkien can be made.

@MrDagosti

Жыл бұрын

Entertainment is entirely bankrupt- so we need to begin to make our own stories and tell them around fires if we have to. From the ashes we will rebuild our culture.

@matroska_5625

Жыл бұрын

I'm a fan of Star Trek, LotR and Doctor Who, so imagine how I feel. At this point my soul is on life support. 🥲

@rovhalt6650

Жыл бұрын

@@MrDagosti Word. I've already started writing my own story. By the small change it ever gets filmed I will be guarding my property like a hawk from these orcs.

@Archontasil

Жыл бұрын

@@matroska_5625 stop watching mate, i know it's fun seeing a car crash, but once you found the bodies, it's ugly, bloated, bloody, purple and disgusting. It's not funny anymore. Watching death up close change yourself

I hate that elves are not only hated by the entire world, but are also really incompetent fighters - except for our lead characters Galadriel and Arondir, who can fight off creatures all by themselves with superhuman abilities while the rest of the elves just die like flies. This is not what you would expect of the Elves after the War of Wrath. If we put aside lore (since this show has basically cast it into the Void), it seems like the show is trying to push a certain agenda that really doesn't align with a lot of the themes that Tolkien wanted to tell through his stories of Middle Earth. And that is disrespecting Prof. Tolkien as a writer, scholar and as the literal founder of the classical Western fantasy genre.

@matroska_5625

Жыл бұрын

I think they overplay it, but it's not really that lore inaccurate. Tolkien said that people generally didn't trust elves, or even feared them. There's definitely a quote about humans fearing them, though I can't find it right now - at least not in LotR by CTRL+F for "distrust" or "fear". Maybe it's in the Silmarillion or another book. There's one about hobbits, though... "And as the days of the Shire lengthened they spoke less and less with the Elves, and grew afraid of them, and distrustful of those that had dealings with them; and the Sea became a word of fear among them, and a token of death, and they turned their faces away from the hills in the west." And vice versa: "Evil had been seen and heard there, sorrow had been known; the Elves feared and distrusted the world outside."

@TheWilyx

Жыл бұрын

@@matroska_5625 Yeah... that's at the end of the Third Age of the Sun... Not starting the Second Age...

@JesusProtects

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, I also think the part about the elves fighting at helm's deep was also not that impressive to me. None of them looked particularly dangerous and skillful on the screen. Yeah, I know it was made up for the movie but still.

@rovhalt6650

Жыл бұрын

And it's disrespecting us.

@rovhalt6650

Жыл бұрын

@@JesusProtects The elves at Helm's Deep looked 20 times better than the elves in this show.

Her extreme happiness of riding that horse in slow motion is so out of nowhere, and then 30 seconds later we're back to basics like what the hell did I just watch?? I actually burst out laughing it was so strange.

@Johnny_Thunder

Жыл бұрын

Was totally out of character. Was like a perfume commercial or something.

@fantasywind3923

Жыл бұрын

Especialyl weird considering that so far NONE of the elves are even shown doing anything with horses :)! And all that could have been fixed easily, a simple scene in before, showing her interact with a horse, doing all the stuff one would do, being gentle and kind towards the creature, Elves should love to ride horses obviously. Not to mention like the case of Glorfindel's horse, they have close and strong bond with their mounts, and have them wear gem adorned harness (maybe horses would get better costumes than many of the elves in this tv show hehehe, I mean look at this description: "Suddenly into view below came a white horse, gleaming in the shadows, running swiftly. In the dusk its headstall flickered and flashed, as if it were studded with gems like living stars.", or Tolkien's own words; "I could, I suppose, answer: 'a trick-cyclist can ride a bicycle with handle-bars!' But actually bridle was casually and carelessly used for what I suppose should have been called a headstall. Or rather, since bit was added long ago . . . I had not considered the natural ways of elves with animals. Glorfindel's horse would have an ornamental headstall, carrying a plume, and with the straps studded with jewels and small bells; but Glor. would certainly not use a bit. I will change bridle and bit to headstall.") A scene that could previously take but few seconds of screen time, maybe showing her prepare to set out to cool off in the leaisure ride in the moonlight or something after returning angry from her 'quest' to Forodwaith, ass end of nothing :). Or the Elrond and Celebrimbor ride to Moria should have been shown as horse journey, anything really.

@DriveByReviews

Жыл бұрын

my girl and I was watching and we said the horses frog eye blinking looked ugly. then I said she kinda looked ugly. then the music and her slowly going insane just sent us into 30 secondss of laughter like WTF was that!?!?

In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort. The Hobbit: Chapter 1, first sentence

@fantasywind3923

Жыл бұрын

In general portrayal of the hobbit in this show makes no sense, they want to imitate the Shire hobbits insularity, but they forget that if they made them wandering, the nomads, then they can't be this parochial and simple and peaceful, they would have to fight for survival in harsh world! Facing the elements and forces of nature, wandering through dangerous lands filled with monsters and dark creatures lingering in the shadow, wandering would make them less prone to be comfortable but naturally worried about all things they need do to do survive! You would then have more hardened hobbits, wilder, more primitive, more savage, more capable of actual combat and defending themselves when necessary (not that the Shire hobbits were not capable in that, oh boy once riled up they could be fierce little warriors) they should be using bows then (to explain that hobbits have great aim, they practice shooting from bows or simply hunt, though obviously there is also the lore problem, they use the Harfoots clan...which was always the hole builders, from which the name hobbit derives, so they would just hide in the ground when threatened, (and try to go and take out the badger from his hole), that because of that they are prone to settling so stay for longer periods before moving again (and only in some serious circumstances force them like growth of shadow or increase in hostile folk in the area which paradoxically made the Harfoots first to move out beyond the mountains as they fled in terror, I mean of all the breeds of Hobbits only Fallohide clan was more adventurous, bolder and were forest dwelling, nomadic hunters, they were courageous and so could face dangers on more even terms, and Fallohide because of that often became chiefs among hobbit clans). Hobbit wandering days would have to make care more about the outside world, because they are in the thick of it, they move about it! "At no time had Hobbits of any kind been warlike, and they had never fought among themselves. In olden days they had, of course, been often obliged to fight to maintain themselves in a hard world; but in Bilbo’s time that was very ancient history." So early Hobbits shouldn't yet be the same naive and totally unprepared for the dangers of the world around them, especially not as nomads! I would expect that early Hobbits would actually carry weapons, bows at least! Still that would not explain their weird appearance, all that crap in their hair and so on. If they really wanted to go all in on the wilder hobbits they needed to make them clothed in furs of hunter animals or something :).

@minkalampinen9519

Жыл бұрын

@@fantasywind3923 Now I really want to see these ancestors of hobbits! What would they be like? Hardy, sneaky hunters? Terrifying to small wild forest animals and something even bigger hunters might want to avoid? Skilled trap makers and deadly sling users? A whisper of a shadow in a story to the Big People, humans mostly? Hillbilly Harfoots are a bad joke. I would like to see savage, even dangerous protohobbits, that would be fascinating!

@fantasywind3923

Жыл бұрын

@@minkalampinen9519 yeah it is said that even in time of Bilbo Hobbit aim is amazing and that any predator would soon learn it hard way if a hobbit stoops to pick a stone to throw :). They are also great archers as seen in Scouring of the Shire!

@minkalampinen9519

Жыл бұрын

@@fantasywind3923 Very true and easy to forget that hobbits can be fierce when they need to.

“Elves have their forests to protect. Dwarves their mines. Men their fields of grain. We harfoots have each other.” Well...That did not age well did it, 2 episodes apart and we went from Harfoots protect each other, to if you can't keep up you get left behind.

@joyis9638

Жыл бұрын

Great point!

@spacejunk2186

Жыл бұрын

I would not be surprised if these Harfoots sacrificed their sick and elderly in a ritual or something.

@misiopuchatek152

Жыл бұрын

Not even protect but even slightly help. We was wondering why nobody move an inch when last episode father hobbit struggled with the tree? There you go. It is his job and if he can’t do it he should die!

@frankvandorp2059

Жыл бұрын

And what's maybe the worst thing, I think the writers didn't even realize how they made the harfoots callous little sociopaths. There needed to be conflict after the dad broke his foot, but he obviously could be carried in a cart by other harfoots. They had to plug that plot hole, so they just decided that harfoots as part of their culture don't help each other out and just abandon weaker members of the tribe. They are such bad writers that they probably didn't even realize this directly contradicted their earlier characterization of harfoots as benign creatures that help and rely on each other.

@misiopuchatek152

Жыл бұрын

@@frankvandorp2059 Hobbit 4: Midsommar

This episode left me with a few questions: - Amazon accuse viewers of being racist, yet everyone is being racist towards the elves! Who harmed nobody, and are known for their wisdom and crafting skills. - What was the purpose of a slo-mo horse ride? To show a close-up of a horse's rear? - Elves are supposed to be wise, and Galadriel is several hundred years old at this point in the story. Yet all she ever does is demand, boss people around and act grumpy. After the horse ride she starts acting a bit more reasonable, but nobody knows why that change happens. - "Nobody falls behind and nobody walks alone" is such a creepy chant... They could have spent some of the crazy money to write a nice song with the same message. - If anyone who is old, frail, or injured gets left behind, harfoots don't deserve to be called intelligent beings... And why do none of them use a hairbrush? To show they are primitive? - If the prisoners of the orcs had axes, and could easily cut their chains with said axes, why haven't they done so ages ago? - Why does the dog (warg?) look so fake? Why did the orcs in the Peter Jackson movies look so much scarier? The technology and make-up are supposed to have improved since then...

@Abcschtze

Жыл бұрын

"-Amazon accuse viewers of being racist, yet everyone is being racist towards the elves! Who harmed nobody, and are known for their wisdom and crafting skills." Some part of the Numenor are the badys in the second age, so 'racist' behavior towards elves is something the showrunners make right. Well, a bit. But something right in this sh*tshow.

@jurgenparkour9337

Жыл бұрын

That so fake-looking warg was really garbage

@coyote4936

Жыл бұрын

the warg looks like a dog/hyena with mange

@misiopuchatek152

Жыл бұрын

Hating elves in this show is very understandable. They are occupying innocent people because their ancestors did something thousands years ago. Galadriel is a freakin beach in every single possible situation treating everyone like a worthless sith. I hate them. What’s more, our both bravest elves of this show led to die over 20 people right now. That’s just messed up…

@Lord_Numpty

Жыл бұрын

To be fair to the dingbats in charge, they were probably awed by the sight of a horse's arse. It was like looking in a mirror to them and we all know how arrogant they are.

If someone told me that Morfydd Clark's grin made three horses faint, before they managed to get that riding scene done, I would actually believe it. She really is a creepy one. Oh dear...

@wrlSivan16

Жыл бұрын

The horse was pretty against the ocean and blue….thats about it.

@DriveByReviews

Жыл бұрын

hahahahaha I had to search online just to see people's reaction. that scene was like her slowly becoming smeegle

The face Galadriel makes when they’re slo-mo riding horses makes her look insane 😂

@chabalekej6798

Жыл бұрын

I was genuinely scared while watching her maniacal smile...

@FlyfishermanMike

Жыл бұрын

At least she can make a different facial expression from the constipated one.

@thumos

Жыл бұрын

How did those scenes get past editing? They've made her seem so insufferable, who would actually feel happy seeing her in these goofy slowmo scenes? What the hell is going on?

@yeezylegit4883

Жыл бұрын

Seriously who directed this shit

@deanzaZZR

Жыл бұрын

I really didn't want to see it a second time....

That smile on the horse didn't make her look happy, it made her appear psychotic. I really don't understand what they were thinking with that scene, or what they expected to be the take-away. It is very odd indeed.

@adiel177

Жыл бұрын

The smile on the horse. LOL The scene was almost comical. I didn't know what to feel about it.

@christophergongora7885

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that shit had me laughing, like what the hell is this? “Did you say ride?” Oddly yet beautiful shot of Galadriel riding a horse without any reason like I don’t recall her ever mentioning how much she loves riding.

@WinterMan.

Жыл бұрын

who the-f smiles while riding a horse anyway, especially at full gallop

@jonronnquist

Жыл бұрын

Was the horse smiling?😂

@raynerstuelgalid

Жыл бұрын

It was written out from some juvenile's experience of summer ranch camp. Not that it jibed with anything the character was shown to have in two and a half episodes. Maybe it's a snippet of a shampoo advert that inadvertently made it to Episode 3.

First time we see a horse in this show. I thought only fast travel exists.

@luthasunspell8365

Жыл бұрын

*You cannot fast travel here, you have not yet discovered the location*

@misiopuchatek152

Жыл бұрын

And when they show that horse finally… It was moving sooooo sloooooow. That’s why they only walks…

@gogaonzhezhora8640

Жыл бұрын

Horses are not fast, horses are for slo-mos, don't you know that?

When Halbrand asked Galsdriel, "Wouldn't it be cool to be a giant all seeing eye on top of a giant tower?", I felt like the show was trying to tell us something, but I can't put my finger on it.

I thought the Amazon Hobbits were all about looking out for each other. Apparently not 😳 And Elendil's family were the lords of Andunie. It's "inconceivable" that Miriel doesn't know who he is!

@suburbanbanshee

Жыл бұрын

He is her cousin. Come the heck on, Amazon.

My favourite part is when galadriel finally said "it's a pirate life for me" when she commits mutiny on the ship

Why did they allow Galadriel to go into the prison to have a private chitchat with Halbrand? Why were the harfoots scared of meteorman, then quickly stopped caring that he was near them? In episode 2, Elrond and Celebrimbor took a leisurely stroll to the dwarves as if they were right down the road. No horses, guards, gear or anything?

I made it to the Galadriel slow motion zoom in of her big dumb face and couldn’t stop laughing so I watched the scene over and over again laughing harder each time and forgot to watch the rest of the episode

@hemmydall

Жыл бұрын

@@captainhurricane5705 rewatch it and look at the horse's derpy ass face. Its so funny

@Johnny_Thunder

Жыл бұрын

Likewise. I laughed so much. Morons running this show. They could have just made her smile naturally but no, as usual, they have no sense of nuance and just make her do that goofy face.

@captainhurricane5705

Жыл бұрын

@@hemmydall No please, I couldn't stand it first time. It was so inappropriate.

@DriveByReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@hemmydall hahaha finally someone else saw that horse frog eye derp neck twist 😆😆

That stupid shot on the horse made me cringe so bad, she literally never smiles and POOF she randomly puts on the biggest smile ever on a goofy slow mo while riding a horse. This show will never cease to surprise me !

@jarnobrofelt1891

Жыл бұрын

Maybe riding rubs just a right spot? 🤔 She looks like it..

@CorePathway

Жыл бұрын

It’s the main reason to watch now…to see how they can one-up the last cringe. And, by golly, they succeed. Every. Single. Time.

@charlesstanford1310

Жыл бұрын

Trying to get all the young girls watching to identify with her.

@spacejunk2186

Жыл бұрын

This shot only exists so they can burn money and put something in the teasers.

"We thought our joys would never end...." voiceover as child-Galadriel beats the crap out of an elven boy

Frodo: I will take the ring to Mordor Arondir: I will cut the tree down in Mordor

I have the impression that one of the creators, director or both, wishes to be Galadriel..... thats their goal, they wanted to materialize their dream!!!!

@Ataraxia462

Жыл бұрын

Self-inserts are quite the popular thing with the hack writers who have been given these jobs for the last 10 years

@spacejunk2186

Жыл бұрын

So they want to be stupid?

@staceygram5555

Жыл бұрын

Self-insert writing is all feminist activists ever do. Strong badass wahmen beats up sexist men. Same recipe as always.

@inthefade

Жыл бұрын

That is a "self-insert character", which is what fan fiction writers tend to do. AKA a Mary Sue.

@queenberuthiel5469

Жыл бұрын

@@spacejunk2186 You mean...they are already stupid and a holes?

A few questions I have about the episode. 1) Why wouldn't any of the other hobbits who AREN'T helping push carts or anything help the guy who's injured? I mean, do they leave everyone who gets sick, injured, or is just too tired behind? And yet they claim to stand up for each other? Wow. 2) Sauron's "mark" seems incredibly stupid if it points right at Mordor/the Southlands. "Hey, I'm gonna leave a big honking hint to where I'm hiding all over the place. That'll show 'em!" 3) Why do they show these orcs fearing sunlight so much in some scenes, yet in others they're wandering around out in the light without any problem? I guess it's a plot-specific weakness. 4) Why do the orcs mercilessly kill all the other elves, but just happen to save Arondir? Oh wait, because he's a Named Character(tm). Never mind. Plot armor saves the day. 5) How on earth did the elves NOT NOTICE that giant swath of destruction going through the area? They can't be THAT freaking stupid. But then again, they're all men, so I guess they follow the typical "men are useless, women are all-powerful" trope that this show seems to be following. 6) Do the writers want us to hate Galadriel? Because I hate her. She's thoroughly unlikable as a character. She's boorish, crass, obnoxious, perpetually angry, lacks any semblance of wisdom or forethought, is completely lacking in diplomacy, and acts like a petulant child rather than a 3000+ year old elven woman who was renowned for her wisdom and grace.

Remember that film The Producers? Mel Brooke’s and Gene Wilder “Let’s make a show so bad no one wants to watch it”. Ladies and Gentlemen, The Rings of Power.😹

@PleaseNThankYou

Жыл бұрын

The plot was to make more money with a flop than a success for Federal tax liability purposes. It was intentionally done but back fired. This series is not going to follow the recipe though.

@PleaseNThankYou

Жыл бұрын

I've mentioned this over last year on several different. channels because I see the connection.

They used a stunt double for that smile.

@luthasunspell8365

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@Appel79

Жыл бұрын

CGI 😉

@IReDeYeZ

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@csmedia5279

Жыл бұрын

No, it was the same VFX studio that created the Henry Cavil Superman Lips.

"The Sea is always right" is one of the many wise quotes from this crap.

@deanzaZZR

Жыл бұрын

I believe Elendil referred to the sea as a harsh master....I'm not a sailor but I believe the sea is referred to as a harsh mistress being both beautiful and dangerous.

@donmongoose

Жыл бұрын

I actually burst out laughing when they shouted this at the sea, the line sounds like it was written by a preschool kid

@pearltheboomkin1247

Жыл бұрын

I cracked tf up at that when they said it to the sea like a bunch of freaking wal mart greeters

@knightingale5669

Жыл бұрын

The sea is always right eh? Can't wait for the sea to swallow up Numenor.

@zoebaggins90

Жыл бұрын

@@knightingale5669 oh, wait ... 😆

You can tell bad storytelling when each character or group of people have to have a distinctive line or moto in order to tell them apart (and these have no foundation or justification in the story anywhere): Numenor - The sea is always right. Harfoots - no one gets left behind (until they do). Elves - do you know why a boat floats and a stone cannot? Putting the lore and Tolkien's intent aside, you should be able to tell straight away when a character walks in or when a man-made structure is presented, what the defining features of their culture and history are. That is good worldbuilding. That is good storytelling. What Amazon is showing us, is not.

Ditching injured hobbitfoots? But they have pull-carts for their other crap? That's not how a "nomadic" society prospers & survives, since (a) sometimes people recover, and even injured/ older people can do things for the tribe, and (2) nomadic doesn't mean on the move 24/7, but of no fixed long-term address. Imagine if they had a sick tent in a small tent-settlement, with healers, herbal natural medicines, care of their weaker members. These writers are clearly making stuff up, are heartless/ clueless, and uninformed about actual nomadic hunter/ gatherer societies, and, and... Rrrrrings of Bezos sucks.

@irena4545

Жыл бұрын

And they are apparently also clueless about farming, surviving in nature and the like. All they know about fruits and vegetables is that you buy them in a supermarket.

@pedrogomesmoura

Жыл бұрын

Nori wants to see the world, but shes nomadic, se already sees It, she dont stay in the same place for long...

@fantasywind3923

Жыл бұрын

@@pedrogomesmoura Exactly! In general portrayal of the hobbit in this show makes no sense, they want to imitate the Shire hobbits insularity, but they forget that if they made them wandering, the nomads, then they can't be this parochial and simple and peaceful, they would have to fight for survival in harsh world! Facing the elements and forces of nature, wandering through dangerous lands filled with monsters and dark creatures lingering in the shadow, wandering would make them less prone to be comfortable but naturally worried about all things they need do to do survive! You would then have more hardened hobbits, wilder, more primitive, more savage, more capable of actual combat and defending themselves when necessary (not that the Shire hobbits were not capable in that, oh boy once riled up they could be fierce little warriors) they should be using bows then (to explain that hobbits have great aim, they practice shooting from bows or simply hunt, though obviously there is also the lore problem, they use the Harfoots clan...which was always the hole builders, from which the name hobbit derives, so they would just hide in the ground when threatened, (and try to go and take out the badger from his hole), that because of that they are prone to settling so stay for longer periods before moving again (and only in some serious circumstances force them like growth of shadow or increase in hostile folk in the area which paradoxically made the Harfoots first to move out beyond the mountains as they fled in terror, I mean of all the breeds of Hobbits only Fallohide clan was more adventurous, bolder and were forest dwelling, nomadic hunters, they were courageous and so could face dangers on more even terms, and Fallohide because of that often became chiefs among hobbit clans). Hobbit wandering days would have to make care more about the outside world, because they are in the thick of it, they move about it! "At no time had Hobbits of any kind been warlike, and they had never fought among themselves. In olden days they had, of course, been often obliged to fight to maintain themselves in a hard world; but in Bilbo’s time that was very ancient history." So early Hobbits shouldn't yet be the same naive and totally unprepared for the dangers of the world around them, especially not as nomads! I would expect that early Hobbits would actually carry weapons, bows at least! Still that would not explain their weird appearance, all that crap in their hair and so on. If they really wanted to go all in on the wilder hobbits they needed to make them clothed in furs of hunter animals or something :).

This is like multiple D&D campaigns being shown in succession. What it isn't, is Tolkien.

Honestly, I will never watch one minute of this show but I derive endless pleasure from the reviews.

“And last of all the mounting wave, green and cold and plumed with foam, climbing over the land, took to its bosom Tar-Míriel the Queen, fairer than silver or ivory or pearls." - Tolkien, the silmarillion. That doesn't sound like a black woman to me.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

Жыл бұрын

And that's your problem why? I just watched the 3rd show and she is a beautiful actress, worthy of Tar-Miriel the Queen. She is really shining fairer than silver or ivory or pearls. Your comment about she being black or whatever is sad.

@fantasywind3923

Жыл бұрын

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 on very principle I am myself against any sort of race bending, as any race swaps it only shows the modern trend. Actress beauty makes no difference, if she was put there only for the diversity quota, if they wanted to do so with the lore of the world in question in mind, they would have her play a Haradrim woman, which would be both more interesting, for we would see a new culture explored and would allow them to depict tense relations with the colonizing Numenoreans who were specific 'race' unto themselves, the same critique can be used if similar stuff happened to Asian or other setting, of course then people have no problem complaining about so called 'whitewashing" the cast, appearance of charactern or entire peoples is part of lore and worldbuilding, if one makes a culture being of particular ethnicity one can expect that portrayal, similarly even with the fantasy creatures, say if we take a creature of humanoid shape from Japanese folklore, say.,..Yuki-onna the snow demon, nobody woudl find it weird that she would be played by Japanese woman. Besides don't exaggerate with praise for Cynthia Addai acting is not that great or revolutionary, this episode is in any case the very first appearance of that actress in this whole tv show.

@zoebaggins90

Жыл бұрын

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 Her race contradicts the description of the character. It's forced and done for their political agenda.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

Жыл бұрын

@@zoebaggins90 with all the respect, that's BS - she is a great actor and looks stunning. I cannot imagine any other actor in this role as good.

@zoebaggins90

Жыл бұрын

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 it's not my fault if you're wilfully blind.

Did anyone else had Life of Brian vibes when Guyladriel and Halbro were at court? Idk, I can see Ar Pharazon enacting the bigus dickus sketch with a guard.

when elrond said ,"put up your sword and you will be my friend" ,that was Pulitzer-worthy dialogue

The show needs a tangible threat to move things forward and give a sense of urgency to the narrative. The only character with a threat to deal with is Arondir, and even then the story moves through the narrative with the pace of a snail,(the escape attempt simply resets the narrative). There needs to be an imminent disaster for Galadriel to prevent, the alliance with the dwarves needs an enemy, the hobbits should be fleeing for their lives. There needs to be something to create tension, to drive the narrative. A nebulous Sauron planning in the shadows doesn’t create tension because we have no clue as to how far his plans have come to fruition. This show is like telling the Fellowship of the Ring without the Ringwraiths chasing the hobbits, the journey to Rivendell is a peaceful little journey and peaceful is boring

@hemmydall

Жыл бұрын

Imagine GoT but no political intrigue and in-fighting and only the threat of the Night King... who still takes several seasons before they become an active threat. So far that's this show.

@krystynagac1872

Жыл бұрын

Peaceful is boring....but only in films and literature

@fantasywind3923

Жыл бұрын

@@hemmydall also the titular Rings of Power are still a far flung vague future :) so it's like having the Game of Thrones...but without Iron Throne or any throne for that matter for entire first season :).

I was actually laughing when I was watching it. I think it’s meant to be serious, but why does it make me laugh so much. That slo-mo was ridiculous…

Harfoot falls down on trail: "Oh. It's ok. It's just my toe." Other Harfoot: **shoots fallen Harfoot in the head and then continues caravan** Harfoots are the Middle Earth's Omega Force (Canadian Bacon reference).

@Cl0ckcl0ck

Жыл бұрын

It totally explains why the Lenny Henry tribe was extinct by the time of Bilbo.

"you write what you know!" Cracked me up so much

at the writers meeting......"oh wait... harfoots have to be dirty, because they have no showers... and since they live of the land, why not put some leaves on their heads, because,... yeah thats never seen before!!! DO IT!!!!" cool this show is going to be so innovative

@waylander9265

Жыл бұрын

While your at it give them stereotypical Irish accents

A 'Numenorean' is ASKING what 'Elendil' means? Didn't she go to school? And I'm guessing they don't have many family gatherings.... And Galadriel's two favourite things - Horsies and Sauron. Also, we found Gollum's folks. Should have figured it out by the diet. Oh, and 'the sea is ALWAYS right'...

@seregrian5675

Жыл бұрын

Well, given that "Miriel" is most likely a Haradrim princess living in Armenenlos as hostage, it m---i---g---h---t--- stand to reason (see the stretch I made there?)

@Han-rw9ev

Жыл бұрын

@@seregrian5675 The problem is, she's the QUEEN of Numenor and the child of the previous ruler. And judging by appearance I'd think this version has VERY little of the original Numenorean DNA. That can be a bit of a problem when it comes to lifespans.... (I seem to recall a controversy when someone from Gondor married someone from Rohan. There was a bit of snobbery as a result) I CAN actually see the actor playing something like a foreign hostage princess, though. That would work for me.

Oh my god!!! This show is so brave and stunning!!! I love how they focus on real life issues!! Like homelessness, racism, feminism!! I read the books so i can escape reality in a way!! And this people have no idea what are they doing! Making stuff up as they go! No plot whatsoever!!

Her face is actually quite terrifying during the slo-mo horse scene. Demonic smile? Wait, SHE is Sauron!

@thelastthreebraincells6244

Жыл бұрын

So this is his fair form? That makes perfect sense!

The Harfoots leave the weak behind and then virtue signal in their memory. Oh my God this mess!

@più_lento_28_13

Жыл бұрын

absolute godly writing !

@PoopaChallupa

Жыл бұрын

Disney shrinks black actors on posters and then virtue signal diversity. Write what you know, i guess.

@davidwebb2568

Жыл бұрын

I've seen the writing compared to the LotR trilogy 😂

@Appel79

Жыл бұрын

What is with that....."o sorry we could have let you ride in one of the wagons...but it's not tradition, so too bad"

@spacejunk2186

Жыл бұрын

Omg you are right.

"The sea is always right". As opposed to the sea is always wet?

I had tried to review Rings of Power citing specific PROS & CONS that were not mentioned by other reviewers and it was rejected. So I submitted another review, lowering my rating. This is the second review: I had tried to submit an honest review to justify my original rating of 2 stars but it was not allowed. I cited specific facts of how this show is NOT like Tolkien. I used no obscenity or profanity. I did not include advertisements or URL links. I did not promote any product. I can only think that since my review was mentioning similar things as other reviews Amazon's gatekeeping moderator decided to remove my right of free expression under this policy: "...repeated posts that make the same point excessively are considered spam." So just because a negative post resonates with other ones Amazon considers it spam and not worthy of posting, yet I have read many posts Amazon would consider positive that are almost verbatim repetitious and are posted. Blatant double-standard. I will make sure I let all the various KZreadrs know this that are reviewing this show that the hypocrisy continues.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

Жыл бұрын

If you watched it and that's your opinion you should be able to rate it as it.

i'm not sitting through any of it. i appreciate all the reviewers who *are* suffering through it and reviewing it so i don't have to. thank you!

@plumeria66

Жыл бұрын

You’ve saved your time. I watched Episode 1 and 2, fast forwarding through it, and had to fast forward all of Episode 3 because I found nothing watchable. Won’t be watching any more.

@zoebaggins90

Жыл бұрын

@@plumeria66 One episode was enough for me.

The horse eyes tells you everything LOLOL

I liked the way the orcs looked. That’s about all I can say.

My favorite moment is when Guyladriel was parkouring like Ezio Auditore

@chabalekej6798

Жыл бұрын

Yet with all these power and parkour skills a simple peasant woman can easily push you out of the raft.

@Astaldo88

Жыл бұрын

@@chabalekej6798 I have never imagined that i would see Lady Galadriel jumping and parkouring around, really sad

@chabalekej6798

Жыл бұрын

@@Astaldo88 but its not Galadriel from Tolkien. Its Guyladriel from an awful fan fiction.

It's confirmed, the hobbits are awful creatures.

Saw this comment in another channel which fits better here - it's another plot masterpiece from the very experienced writers: Harfoots presented themselves as: "Our hearts are even bigger than our feet." But actually in this episode they revealed themselves as: "If you can't keep up, we won't think twice about leaving you behind and letting you die." Awesome!!!

They're going to make her so unlikable, that when the time finally comes in her arc where she's less awful, then no one's going to care lol

@hemmydall

Жыл бұрын

Bold to assume that an arc like that happens.

Don't forget that the Harfoots (Harfeet?) all laugh at remembering how one of them died to bees.

The minute she jumped overboard I was out. It's so moronically stupid I don't believe anything else can be rescued from it. I was slack-jawed.

@shawnparshall1165

Жыл бұрын

The writers clearly have no understanding of sailing, nomadic living or warfare at all. It's clear they want their ideas in the story without a world that will actually fit them.

I am an Irishman born and bread .the fact that they make the harfoots filthy dirty and have leprechaun accents makes me cringe so bad 😂😂😂 this is horrendous on every level 😆

@nexviper

Жыл бұрын

Have tae wonder if they'll run out of negative gypsy/traveller stereotypes before the end of the series at this rate.

@kieferroche1995

Жыл бұрын

@@elliotvernon7971 that’s a big assumption pal .the show is so bad .

@kieferroche1995

Жыл бұрын

@@nexviper I’m sure they will find some other ridiculous stereotype to use buddy 😂

So Halbrand is the Aragorn of this mess of a show... We had Frodo and Sam in Nori and Poppy. Now we have Aragorn 2.0. And those orcs... How the hell Arondir and the other scouts did not see the HUGE orc camps and ground diggins? Even a friggin blind old man could see that from miles and miles away. Those slo-mo shots made me laugh. I'm sorry for the actress, but that close up in her face was a very poor choice. This is not getting better in any shape or form.

That slow motion horse scene was straight out of a perfume ad

Why do the orcs travel in a 3/4 tunnel when they could make the slaves build a forward-expanding "cover" with just some supporting walls and a roof? It would have been a lot faster...

@Francesco-fo9oo

Жыл бұрын

Maybe they will explain the reason for the tunnels... Or not, considering the level of this show probably it just another thing that doesn't make sense.

@greenbrightly

Жыл бұрын

Also why dig a tunnel but make a roof for it? So if you wanted to say trap orcs along it you could just destroy the roof on either side and stand there shooting arrows at them from the safety of the higher ground?

@fantasywind3923

Жыл бұрын

Those are 'tunnels'?! Aren't they supposed to be all underground :) hell this looks more like highway construction site hahaha. The Orcs would make a tunnel for specific reason, not merely some vague highway underground, tunnels connecting the orc cities, settlements beneath the mountains...sure great, an escape tunnel why not, but entire net of underground roads leading everywhere, even for them too much bother. Enormoous work for little gain, why dig when they just...come out do their thing and return, that's what the Orcs always donethey come out of their holes in the mountains, raid, do their business and return home. It's also easier to maintain those tunnels if they are carved in solid rock of the mountains (though it's harder to make than simply digging them in the looser earth) a tunnel through the soil can collapse without proper prep, it can cause landslide and sinkholes form, not that the Orcs care for safety :). Still the closest to use of tunnels this way, is those tunnels being secret ways out near Morannon in order to surprise and ambush forces coming on to the fortifications from behind: "[All] the hills and rocks about the Morannon were filled with hidden foes, and the shadowy defile beyond was bored and tunnelled by teeming broods of evil things." Also as the example of the slag piles near Morannon show, they would produce enormous amount of refuse :) that would take years of work. "Therefore Aragorn now set the host in such array as could best be contrived; and they were drawn up on two great hills of blasted stone and earth that orcs had piled in years of labour. Before them towards Mordor lay like a moat a great mire of reeking mud and foul-smelling pools." Morannon and the Hills of the Teeth, on the sides of Cirith Gorgor were specially fortified nad so had lots of tunnels and underground forts for the Orcs to garrison it, it had purpose: "Across the mouth of the pass, from cliff to cliff, the Dark Lord had built a rampart of stone. In it there was a single gate of iron, and upon its battlement sentinels paced unceasingly. Beneath the hills on either side the rock was bored into a hundred caves and maggot-holes: there a host of orcs lurked, ready at a signal to issue forth like black ants going to war." TTT, Book IV, Ch 3 The Black Gate is Closed All those still didn't make them dig a massive tunnel to reach their destination of attack :) they didn't dig a giant tunnel across Ithilien or anything like that. And in the context of the tv show, the tunnels were made specifically to reach those towns and emerge from underground but now they work on the ground level WHAT?! This is just weird, in any case for Orcs it would be easier to just....move about after sunset, move at night hahaha.

That slo-mo smile looked like she was in serious pain pulling it off.

Ar-Pharazon...whose ultimate linage comes from Elros Half-Elven is surprised to see "A Man and an Elf - togetherr_...?? And it was Ar-Pharazon who broke with the elves, not before then. What a mess!

@potita24

Жыл бұрын

On Tolkien Gateway, and other sites dedicated to Tolkien it is said that it was Miriel's grandfather who persecuted the faithful and banned the elves from coming to Númenor and thier language!

@goodputin4324

Жыл бұрын

Pharazon. He isn't a King yet as of now

the wine of victory is never dark, because a stone that sees only downward may bark at the moon, but where there is love, the ship that gazes up is sweetest for the dog in whose bitter trials it has fermented. (Elrondir the Third of Numenoria)

@zoebaggins90

Жыл бұрын

And the sea is always right.

@ElevenEvilExes

Жыл бұрын

@@zoebaggins90 naturally.

Every time Arondir squints and broods...... *Zendaya and Idris Elba: You're doing it wrong!'*

The only thing that saved this episode: The actor who played Elendil. This guy was a standout casting. Everybody else is put to shame.

@TheOneRingcom

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree.

When the warg is chasing you, it's okay to throw him a raisin cookie but don't stop to bake a cake.

Like others have said, thanks for reviewing it so I don’t have to watch it. My blood pressure is fine, but it’d skyrocket if I had to endure this claptrap.

@jeroenschaafsma138

Жыл бұрын

Yes I watch it through youtube because it allows me to laugh at it while not spending money on it.

“Write what you know.” Well said! lol thank you

So, not only is Elendil born and an adult before the rings have been forged, which means 2500 years of history is just GONE. They're honestly treating him like a nobody? Elendil? He's one of the Andunie. Does Silmarien not exist in this world? The dude has Narsil and the ring of Barahir for Eru's sake! And where is Narsil? Is it with his dad?

I honestly didn't pay attention to the harfoots segment and I don't think I lost any significant progress with the story lol. i got busier with the snack i took from the fridge that time they were onscreen. Anyway, at least Elendil's presence saved this episode.

Harfoots: We'll wait for you Everyone else: You say that, only after leaving them to die...

"A dog may bark at the moon, but he cannot lift his leg high enough to pee on it."

You're more generous than I am. You called it 10th grade writing, I think of it as a high school freshman's first English Composition assignment.

@TheOneRingcom

Жыл бұрын

I've been wavering between 7th and 10th grade... I'll try and settle on "Freshmen" now. :)

Wait I thought the trailers said that Harfoots "stick together with hearts even bigger than their feet" one of them get's hurt and they just leave him forever? Even the Harfoots are just virtue signalling compassion, damn.

that horse looked so stoned like he smoked a fat Joint before that slow mo

I haven't watched the series and probably wont, but the amount of great content on KZread as a result of this shitshow is worth the 1 billion dollars to me

If Galadriel's spirit was supposed to be soaring in that scene, don't put it directly after a scene where she threatens to murder someone. She just comes across as ccompletely unhinged

I think the writers will watch Twitter, and subvert expectations by having Halbrand forge Narsil, and making Meteor Man turn out to be Sauron. We could create an entire game about how cockeyed this can get.

@gabewagner1997

Жыл бұрын

I had the exact same thought about narsil

@fantasywind3923

Жыл бұрын

Maybe Sauron will now make the silver rod of Lords of Andunie...who don't seem to exist, :) hehe the Sceptre of Annuminas obviously was never shown in the films before so I bet they wouldn't show it now, but still so much stuff from appendices is not used in this tv show!

"Our hearts are bigger'n our feet. Unless you fall behind--then screw off."

The dog barking at the moon actually wasn’t bad, though I have heard the same sentiment before in Mulan (1999): “no matter how the wind may howl, the mountain can not bow to it.”

For the third episode in a row Galadriel looked directly at the camera and said "It's you, you're the Ring of Power!" And I clapped!!

@RangerMcFriendly

Жыл бұрын

Don't Ask Questions, Just Consume Product and Then Get Excited for Next Products.

The pacing I can suffer but I cannot fathom a story that breaks logic and common sense without proper explanation and justification. Especially the half-foot tradition of leaving people behind, not only is the tradition itself felt unrealistic to actual human social behaviors, it does not give any reasonable explanations as to why. Nori's father twisting his ankle and the leader just decide to abandon him and his entire family does not make sense in the slightest to me, and is painful to watch. He never forbidden anyone else from helping Nori's family, and multiple half-foots were shown in the migration scene to have light baggage only on their backs, fully capable of helping with Nori's cart. And yet everyone just pretend Nori's problems don't exist and continue on their merry way. The writer did not bother to show any of the members showing any compassion for a wounded member of the tribe, that's just too cold and inhuman to feel right.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

Жыл бұрын

They are not human, the are shown as the least strong race in the lore - and if somebody is not able to travel anymore will be left behind - although I did not see it that way, the families are helping each other and they remind themselves in a religious services whom they lost on the way.

Galadriel as a character is horrible. I read that Morfydd is a Tolkien fan and her best friends are huge fans so she would talk to them about the character to make sure to get her right. I think Morfydd needs new friends.

I look forward to RoP. As an insomniac I've found RoP puts me right to sleep!

I actually liked the sweeping shots. Partly because Numenor looked nice, but mostly because there was little dialogue so little opportunity for the show to have characters say extremely dumb things.

No amount of slow motion can save this dumpster fire.

Elendil calling Galadriel imprudent in the face was my best part

"The sea is always right!" “What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.”

11:20 What about when she says, "Who is this mortal who speaks to me as if he had any idea who I am?" Are the writers serious with this crap?

Even if a butterfly does not fly when it flaps wings, it can still cause a hurricane some later in the future.

@Strideo1

Жыл бұрын

"Learn to hide your strikes from your opponent and you'll more easily strike his hide."

@thumos

Жыл бұрын

Damn, that's so deep and profound 😮That's exactly the kind of writing we want for season 2! You free?

@matroska_5625

Жыл бұрын

Finrod, is that you? How do I tell the difference between a butterfly and a hurricane?

That horse scene is when ROP started to become more of a comedy show for me 🤣

It is also quite interesting how Google and KZread are stopping negative reviews of the show.

What is there not to understand? The weak who cannot follow would endanger the tribe! The sands of Arrakis are unforgiving of the weak! - Ooops, sorry, the wrong fandom :D

@Confusion.and.Delay...

Жыл бұрын

Nice bit o’ _spice_ , always _precious_

The best part of RoP is all the Content Creators who are Roasting it. :) Far more entertaining than the actual show is. The only thing to look forward to when you are watching the series is the credits rolling...

The fact that they have a cult of not leaving anyone behind to then sort the weakest out and even somewhat ensure they don't bother them is beyond me.

I'm more and more convinced that the Harfoots are based Irish Travellers.

@florencen4884

Жыл бұрын

They really are. There's an article in the Irish Times criticizing this very streotype.

I like modern technology, because, the ability to fast-forward song or video is a beautiful thing. I took the opportunity and watched the next episode (of course, not on Amazon) within 20 seconds. Skipping and skimming bunch of useless scenes and dialogues saved me enough time that I invested in a few episodes of King of Queens. It was a beautiful night filled with laughter, joy and no despair.

the ratings for the show are back up on Amazon, and surprise surprise its got a 3.6 out of 5 stars with tons of 5 star reviews.

@goodmusic37

Жыл бұрын

they can lie all they want, but we will not give up defending Tolkien's legacy. #CancelYourPrimeMembership i cancelled mine last week. You can get the same stuff from Walmart at lower price and the items actually arrive on time.

@Abcschtze

Жыл бұрын

Look in the comments At the Nerd of Rings Channel. There are people who oppviously like this Show...

@Roon3808

Жыл бұрын

@@Abcschtze Of course there are, but the number of people who are highly disappointed are much greater. By the way Nerd of the Rings stated he is being sponsored by Amazon (Audible) now

@Cl0ckcl0ck

Жыл бұрын

Less 5 star reviews than people working on the show though.

Guyladriel can't be grateful as she was about to split the sea in two to come back on foot and kick Sauron's a** with her smile (which we now know is his most noxious weapon)

The only thing I like about this show so far is Galadriel’s horse. I’ve always wanted a cremello. XD =

@matroska_5625

Жыл бұрын

Would you go into slow motion and smile like you're insane if you got to ride one?

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

Жыл бұрын

@@matroska_5625 I would smile like an idiot or just be happy - its a wonderful moment

I'm calling it now. Anarion dies in Numenor because he won't leave the past behind as Eledil thinks and stays on the west of the island. He won't actually appear in the show. His made up sister, the architect, will build Gondor and jointly rule with her brother Isildur. This doesn't violate their agreement with the Tolkien estate that no character who lives the Third age dies in the second as Anarion dies at the Siege of Barad-dur at the very end of the Second age.

"Bring him to Adar!" proceeds to show Adar walking to him

'pfft, bees! We still miss him but he was an ijit!" Such reverence.