Celeborn faked his own death just so he could get away from Galadriel, he only came back when he heard rumour that his wife had magically transformed into Cate Blanchett

@manoz6194

Жыл бұрын

Haha, nice one!

@culturecanvas777

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@colinloves

Жыл бұрын

I believe this (y)

@reav3rtm

Жыл бұрын

Hard to blame him.

@JoelPedrosaJr

Жыл бұрын

Perfect. 😂😂😂😂

Having a awful show is one thing, Batwoman comes to mind. But having a awful show that actively insults your intelligence, insists you're the problem for calling out its awfulness while leaving you wondering where the hell the insane budget went is something else entirely.

@greenbrightly

Жыл бұрын

This totally sums it up! Thank you!

@takanara7

Жыл бұрын

Not just that but also being the biggest IP and a trillion dollar corporation banking on you being the next big thing, lmao.

@FightCollective

Жыл бұрын

When being classed a ray sis, s3 x is and fur wr1ght simply means you don't like ROP... a phooking tv show!!! I'm literally H1t lur reincarnate because I think ROP is dumb!

@yourvenparianen5390

Жыл бұрын

Money laundering. tax evasion for bezos

Elves can die from wounds and heart break...but since THIS version of Galadriel has got no heart she is in no danger of that obviously

Galadriel Rebukes Theo when he says he wants to kill orcs because it darkens the heart. Wasn't she just telling Adar how she's going to personally spend centuries killing every si gle orc.

@markmathisen3908

Жыл бұрын

The writing of this show is insanely inconsistent. You can't follow any characters motivation or beliefs when they change from scene to scene. 😳

@themightypen1530

Жыл бұрын

She is going to personally put every last single Orc to the steel. The women, the babies, all of them will die by her hand. She's so wise and kind, just like Tolkien wrote her.

@Peterski

Жыл бұрын

It's like different people wrote those scenes, unaware of each others work

@ringbearer1420

Жыл бұрын

Maybe a strong wind blew the script out of someone’s hands and they had to put it back together is a real hurry?

@nienor12

Жыл бұрын

Yea but she eats the pyroclastic wave she is "touched" by evil so she change😂😂😂here is the character evolution that ppl wanted 😂😂😂the writers are just clowns that doesn't know even the basics of creating a fictional world writing a good fictional characters and books

I think this episode was supposed to be "character growth" for galadriel and the harfoots. Galadriel finally gets "humbled" and realizes her errors, the harfoot's "hearts bigger than our feet" was meant to be admonishing cruel past customs. Except none of it works, bc there has been no natural progression of the story. Everyone just suddenly does a 180. Too many plot contrivances just turn it into a farce.

@johns1625

Жыл бұрын

Galadriel unironically being humbled by a petulant snot nosed child who killed so many people and openly wants to turn evil for power. Lmao

@markmathisen3908

Жыл бұрын

It's like they're trying to get from point A in the series to point Z while skipping all of the letters in between. 😒

@cklambo

Жыл бұрын

But I don't get what galadriel did wrong here by own logic. She was right about the threat. Mount doom erupting was beyond everyone's calculations. So its not her fault. Why is she blaming herself?

@Peterski

Жыл бұрын

@@cklambo because everything has to be about her

@tonyphillips5525

Жыл бұрын

I am sure you are right about the character growth intention. As you say there is no progression for this, so you end up with Galadriel, Disa, the Harfoots acting like completely new characters.

Disa manipulating Durin to betray his own father. They want to be Game of Thrones too much that they lost sight what Lord of the Rings is supposed to be.

@wendydanielle3476

Жыл бұрын

This upset me because I actually like Disa’s character because she actually has some characterization, along with Adar for the same reason. You can tell she loves Durin and treats Elrond with profound kindness. The conversations between the three have felt the most natural in the show. Seeing her manipulate Durin was kinda odd as we haven’t seen her show any “dwarven greed” thus far and has shown a respect for the mining process when exploring new mines.

@spacejunk2186

Жыл бұрын

It's so dumb because we don't even know why Papa Durin wants to Holodomor the Elves so much

@eudyptes5046

Жыл бұрын

@@wendydanielle3476 It reminded me of Macbeth being manipulated by his wife.

@Hlbkomer

Жыл бұрын

Either she’s Sauron or that scene was written by the same writer that made G-Driel so evil in the last episode.

@markmathisen3908

Жыл бұрын

It really is a complete 180° turn in her character and motivation. Right the hell out of nowhere, like everything else in this cesspool.

I've coined a new word: When a character is asked a simple question and decides to share a bad metaphor or analogy instead of just answering the question, it's an attempt at Profundity, but it's actually Fauxprundity.

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

I like that. Do borrow my portmanteau word: fibacle. Useful when you can’t decide if what you’ve encountered is a fiasco or a debacle.

I've heard Pyroclastic Flow more in the last 3 days than in my entire life combined, and I was a geologist.

@culturecanvas777

Жыл бұрын

I'm fine with volcanic ash cloud.

@shadowwynd6641

Жыл бұрын

We have Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis which is going to shred lungs and turn to them to concrete from the moisture. We have Pyroclastic flow that should have burned, buried, and suffocated every single person in the village. Volcanic gases are toxic and often kill people. What did Boromir say about the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume? And in spite of all of this, in the field hospital they have set up with amputations and gore and death all around, Bronwyn still found time to do her make up.

@unitedstatesofmordor

Жыл бұрын

The Pyroclastic Flow, and all that came with it was so evil it gave off no harm. Except for the expendables, for the evils of being a mere expendable could not protect all of them.

@Too-Odd

Жыл бұрын

@@culturecanvas777 An ash cloud and a pyroclastic flow are not the same thing. Both can kill you. This showed a pyroclastic flow, so they should all be burned, choked, poisoned, and buried. They should all be dead.

@100thmonkey

Жыл бұрын

All I know about Pyroclastic Flow I learned from Pierce Brosnan in 'Dante's Peak' - and it's the big bad of the whole movie...

Galadriel is even smaller than Theo and this guy is supposed to be a child, who is always running around as if he was ringing the bells in a Parisian cathedral

@kristinazubic9669

Жыл бұрын

There are some really tall 13 and 14 year olds.

@deanzaZZR

Жыл бұрын

@@kristinazubic9669 And then there is General of the Northern Armies Lady G who stands all of 158cm (5'2"). A potent little elven package, indeed it would seem.

Clearly McKay and Payne's "back-to-the-book" moments were when they went back to the book they kept in the bathroom and wiped their arses with the pages.

@SubiKinubi

Жыл бұрын

The only books those guys have read we’re dr seus books and even they would have been a reach for them

Volcano approx. 100 miles away from the village: all is full of ashes and fire and darkness Volcano approx. 120 miles away from the Numenorian camp: no ashes and darkness at all Volcano about 100's of miles away from the Harfoots: one single Lavabomb destroys 5 Appletrees

@fractalfae5418

Жыл бұрын

Numenorians: 'The Sea is always right!' Mordorians: 'The Volcano is always right!'

@Zireael104

Жыл бұрын

@@fractalfae5418 😂

@markmathisen3908

Жыл бұрын

The only consistent thing in this show is how INCONSISTENT everything is. 🙄

Elendil in the previous episode as the volcano erupts: "Protect the Queen!" (or words to that effect, as he rushes off) Elendil in this episode, after gathering 95% of the survivors, but not having the Queen, his son Isildur nor Galadriel: "Nah, it will be fine." Galadriel is competing for the coveted Harfoot Award. With people literally burning and screaming around her, she walks off with Theo: "Ignore them. They fell behind." Not to mention stopping Theo from looking for his mother.

@e_Moses

Жыл бұрын

I still don't understand how Galadriel and Theo end up walking by themself. She doesn't even try to help anyone else in the village. She just takes Theo with her and leaves everyone behind only to end up back with the rest of them towards the end. They should have had this episode at the end of season 1 and just have everyone die when the volcano erupts and then proceed to never make a second season.

@zoebaggins90

Жыл бұрын

@@e_Moses it was probably cut in the editing room.

@ardisgreenwater857

Жыл бұрын

@@zoebaggins90 Then is was cut NONSENSICALLY.

Just an observation, episode 6 they made a point of being scientific by adding water to volcanoes. This week they've thrown volcanology out, there are no, zero survivors after a pyroclastic blast. Even elves can be killed, let alone humans and horses. Sigh. That did it for me.

In „the fellowship of the ring“ Elrond told Gandalf, that dwarves were digging too deep and greedy and waked up the Balrog therefore. Here Elrond is the main cause for this digging 😂

@RoninDave

Жыл бұрын

hilarious! The deleted scene was Gandalf replying "My Lord Elrond but that is bullshit! The Dwarves were trying to cure you of your Elven Cancer when in their earnest selflessness they dug too deep for that cure that they awoke the Balrog."

@culturecanvas777

Жыл бұрын

Elrond ensures the blame is not on him. He outlives the dwarves, so he wants to rewrite history. "It wasn't me, I assure you. I was there."

@colinloves

Жыл бұрын

The Elves shall be blamed for nothing. :P

@anns9970

Жыл бұрын

@@colinloves I always imagined that the Silmarillion was Noldor propaganda.

@rovhalt6650

Жыл бұрын

Fucking Elrond is playing his mindgames again xD Blame it on the Dwarves.

Could the writers at least not have had the survivours jump into the tunnels filled with left-over water? "To the tunnels!" or something like that to make it even slightly believable?

@EvenstarSaima

Жыл бұрын

Oh hey aren’t you Haldir? 😉😘😂

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

They forgot the tunnels and the water, duh.

@spacejunk2186

Жыл бұрын

They forgor 💀

Little known fact: you can survive a pyroclastic flow if you duck at the right moment.

@HighlyRegarded420

Жыл бұрын

Just put a paper square over your face, works on everything

Karendriel in Ep. 6: Threatens Adar, that she will massacre every last of his Ork ''children'', while interrogating him. Karendriel in Ep. 7: Gives Theo a lecture of not becoming evil, while fighting evil. Crom's beard, the writers of this show are absolutely r*t*rded beyond human recognition!

@FightCollective

Жыл бұрын

It's not even the time between episodes 6 or 7. To them it's literally a couple of hours later that afternoon. Brownwyn (or whatever the healer woman is called) for example has been shot by two arrows, was on deaths door, had excruciating surgery, took a volcanic explosion face on, walked out of said volcanic eruption (unscathed, no burns, no lung damage) and had a high meeting with a queen later that same day... still looks as fresh as a daisy. So for Galadriel, a thousands of years old being, to suddenly become a moral crusader just a couple of hours after threatening to torture a guy (Ardur) by keeping him alive so she can slowly kill all his children infront of him before killing him also is an insult to our intelligence.

How dare you move at first light , everyone knows you can't do anything until after second breakfast.

Maybe if the volcanos aren't that hot, then Amazon can say that the One Ring wasn't destroyed at the end of Lord of the Rings, and make a sequel. Maybe Gollum can survive too.

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

Don’t give them ideas.

@MollyHJohns

Жыл бұрын

The Rise of the Rings

My wife who is a normie, despises this show. She says its not a story, its just different events being shown on screen. Making her watch this with me might cause some marital problems for us lol.

@TheOneRingcom

Жыл бұрын

😆

@elkl3409

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@wolfmauler

Жыл бұрын

Listen to your wife....She nailed it.

@rovhalt6650

Жыл бұрын

Please tell me you're not giving money to Amazon to watch this crap.

@Silversmith70

Жыл бұрын

I have a Prime account because I sell on their platform, the show is a side issue.

this volcano eruption could have killed ALL of THEM in so many ways like heat , ash breathing, poisonous gas ,getting hit by rocks, heart attacks...the show is obviously a well written comedy and noone has informed us for it

@arthurballs9632

Жыл бұрын

I liked how none of them even covered the faces with a cloth in an attempt to keep some of the smoke and worse out of their lungs. I don't even remember any of them coughing.

@morghoulmutilera2996

Жыл бұрын

@@arthurballs9632 Exactly . But i dont understand .Are all of these happening cause of lack of experience or they simply dont care?Those "minor" details are important for the emersion of the audience....even non professionals know it

I'm very happy to see these reviews, especially the in-depth ones because this show has been a nightmare. It's less hellish seeing other people's reaction to it is similar.

@ardisgreenwater857

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It's so bad that when you stumble upon a positive review or even a lukewarm one, it can make you start questioning whether you and the other person live in the same reality. Finding a review similar to your own perception of the show at least makes you less lonely in this madness. I'm pretty sure I got a mild depression a couple episodes ago...

@sabineb.5616

Жыл бұрын

brandon, I agree! I find these honest and often funny reviews far more entertaining than watching the actual episodes 😉

@KororaPenguin

Жыл бұрын

With apologies to Mark Twain, the rules of narrative fiction require: That a tale shall accomplish something and arrive somewhere. But the "Rings of Power" tale accomplishes nothing and arrives in air. They require that the episodes in a tale shall be necessary parts of the tale, and shall help to develop it. But as the "Rings of Power" tale is not a tale, and accomplishes nothing and arrives nowhere, the episodes have no rightful place in the work, since there was nothing for them to develop. They require that the personages in a tale, both dead and alive, shall exhibit a sufficient excuse for being there. But this detail has been overlooked in the "Rings of Power" tale. They require that when the author describes the character of a personage in the tale, the conduct and conversation of that personage shall justify said description. But this law gets little or no attention in the "Rings of Power" tale, as the hobbits' case will amply prove. They require that the personages of a tale shall confine themselves to possibilities and let miracles alone; or, if they venture a miracle, the author must so plausibly set it forth as to make it look possible and reasonable. But these rules are abandoned to Shelob in the "Rings of Power" tale. They require that the author shall make the reader/listener/viewer feel a deep interest in the personages of his tale and in their fate; and that he shall make the reader love the good people in the tale and hate the bad ones. But the viewer of the "Rings of Power" tale dislikes the good people in it, is indifferent to the others, and wishes they would all get drowned together. They require that the characters in a tale shall be so clearly defined that the reader/listener/viewer can tell beforehand what each will do in a given emergency. But in the "Rings of Power" tale, this rule is stabbed with a Morgul blade.

Remember guys whenever Aragorn screams Elendil riding into battle, he’s imagining a mighty hero in 3D printed armor.

@Dr._Atom

Жыл бұрын

And only 6', not 7'11''

I would not be surprised if Isildur is dead and his role isl be taken by his sister (er forget her name). Thus a strong women can finish Sauron at the Gladden Fields.

One thing no one has mentioned yet…if a major tectonic event happens…like a Volcano erupting…you mean to tell me that the Dwarves that this show has shown to be somewhat “rock sensitive” didn’t feel that? That the earth wouldn't shake inside Khazad Dum? That also Elrond the All Seeing didn’t see it? That Gil Galad doesn’t know about it? Huge plot hole to add to the list.

There are so many attempts to manufacture drama, but none of it works because we either don't care about the characters or we already know what happens to them. Or rather, at least what's supposed to happen to them. Thank you for calling out the many inconsistencies!

You forgot the horse. The horse was burning. I'm also bothered by the scene where During go mining alone. Was he prepared for being there mining alone for days, months, years? And it's funny how he solve all the problems magically finding all the mithril in the world just in a couple of hours mining.

You make me chuckle each time you call the Harfoots dirty little sociopaths. Brightens my day.

Maybe I missed something but didn't Noris dad's injured foot stop being a problem pretty quick?

@markmathisen3908

Жыл бұрын

"'Tis but a scratch," levels of farce, isn't it. Just like Sauron- I mean Hallbrand- no, I mean Sauron, having a wound so severe he's near death, but he's definitely up for a 3 month horse ride to the Elves to heal him. 🤔

@Peterski

Жыл бұрын

Shhh! The writers don't want you to notice the details they forgot about

@ringbearer1420

Жыл бұрын

It’s just a flesh wound…

@thekububeach

Жыл бұрын

You are very racist and bigoted. How dare you questioning the plot?

@blaxpoitation8528

Жыл бұрын

He’s actually a mutant with regenerative abilities. These are all variants. Slim Priestess broke the Tolkien timeline and this is all from some alternate universe.

I wasn't evil before this series but Payne and Mckay have made me question that reality because the ONLY two characters I'm rooting for in this abomination are Adar and briefly (as they appeared to torch the knobbits) the Feminem witches.

There's no way the grubby little sociopaths could have survived more than a few generations, it's a strategy guaranteed to fail.

Great review, thanks! I respectfully slightly disagree that the Rivendell elves would have taken Frodo's mithril shirt. It would be much easier (and sooner) to take it off/away from frail, elderly Bilbo! Why would the elf "commander of the northern armies" find a random teenager and have a long, soulful conversation in which the thousands of years old elf would casually mention that she had (past tense!) a husband. Why did she tell this young male teenage human (¿who is his dad?) about this, but she has never told anybody else? The motivation seems disturbing. (What is next? "Sometimes I get very lonely ...") And then she made him a soldier? Metaphor for coming of age? And why is she so upset/revenge-y about her brother being killed but never mentioned her husband, whom she mocked the last time she saw him? Why didn't she help him fix his armour? Obviously she didn't care and wasn't gonna be too fussed about it if he got killed. (Since when do elves have ill fitting armour? I mean before ROP.) Galadriel is really checking off all the boxes of villainy.

"And how did Galadriel live, and yet Celeborn did not, so wise an elf as he was, and only cringes to withstand him?" Galadriel flushed and forgot her Karen. "The wisest elf may be slain by one cringe," she said; "but Celeborn was pierced by many."

Regarding the impossibly fast movement across middle earth. It's called fast-travel dude, I do it all the time in Skyrim. 😉

“Aforetime it was held among the Elves in Middle-earth that dying the Dwarves returned to the earth and the stone of which they were made […]” - The Silmarillion, Of Aulë and Yavanna.

@spacejunk2186

Жыл бұрын

More elf racism smh.

Don't you think that those cultists have a similar vibe to Nazguls seeking a ring in the LOTR trilogy? Coincidence? You know: creepy creatures going after sweet hobbits? Same thing.

So, galadriel spends her life hunting orcs..finally finds them, gets her ass handed to Her, then runs back home to save her love interest..what a pile of steaming ass nuggets

@FlyfishermanMike

Жыл бұрын

She needs an army and now knows where the enemy lives but it is a steaming pile.

I know it is a fantasy show, but maybe they could have hired a junior high school student to advise them on things like how to gauge the time to travel long distances, why being in the blast area for a volcano is not a wise idea and why having cloth boundary on your fortifications (Numemor camp) does not offer any protections. Look at the roman forts that were instituted by Sulla for a guide.

That is a fantastic point about the mithril and how the elves would fight the dwarves like crazy to get it. The showrunners never thought of that, clearly -- but you did, so dang, keep it up!

@frocat5163

Жыл бұрын

The idiots writing this abomination are just like most modern writers; they don't give a damn about anything except how it will look on the screen. They have what they think is an interesting idea, or at least an idea that might look cool on the screen, so they write something up and film it. They can't waste time thinking about how any of those things might interact with other story elements, or the consequences of those actions / events. And that's really what it comes down to...people no longer consider the consequences of their actions, or if they acknowledge those consequences at all, it's to simply whine about how those consequences aren't their fault. When that's how so many people behave in real life, it's guaranteed they'll write stories in that way.

Can you imagine being married to Galadriel? I reckon celeborn lied and went to live with a mate and faked his own death

@amarieoflothlorien

Жыл бұрын

Would not blame the guy if he swam back to Valinor asap.

At least we know the truth about the Balrog. It wasnt the greedy pickaxes, it was a smelly Elven leaf, that woke him.

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

Did it bother the Balrog? No, he went back to sleep, because he’s not due to kill a Durin until number VI in the Third Age!

I’m glad there are reviews like this because it makes me realize I’m not alone, and that I’m not a racist/sexist/phobe-istic monster. It’s just not a good show, although I do appreciate the CGI because that’s very good. Story is not, acting is not, characters aren’t well thought out, it’s boring, it often doesn’t make sense, the audience is expected to overlook its flaws, and most importantly, they aren’t respecting Tolkiens art. The source work is like a suggestion to them, as opposed to the rules they should work within to respect the artist they are building on.

11:22 referring back to when Galadriel tried to scare Adar, it's ok to commit genocide on the Uruk, as long as we also pity them.

Notice how now Sauron, sorry Halbrand has a reason/excuse to go to Lindon and meet Gil-galad and likely Grandmabrimbor. Though he goes from being on deaths door to now being able to ride almost the entire lengths of middle earth to from the edge of Mordor to Lindon with a soured wound. I have to disagree that it was the best episode, though not that the bar is very high for that anyway. Despite things happening, nothing actually happened - or a better way of saying it is that lots of stuff was said to make little things happen. I'm all for episodes dedicated to character growth but its not growth, it is spontaneous 180 character switch and contradictions on character traits that have been established. Celeborn mystery box - "he is dead, he went to war and I never saw him again" / Isildur and Beric getting the Aragon and Brego treatment with a death fakeout that we know is a pointless mystery since we know he lives. The final episode is going to be all about "reveals". Isildur is not dead, Halbrand is sauron (even if the reveal is not to the characters, the audience will find out). The cult will assume Offbrandalf is sauron. Daddy Durin reveals he knew about the Balrog. And we are all meant to act surprised. Regent Queen will be challenged as unfit to lead because she is blind. her father is dead when she returns.

@fractalfae5418

Жыл бұрын

Grandmabrimbor 🤣🤣! Seriously though, and with no disrespect to the actor, who I assume is fine in other roles, but he is so terribly miscast as an immortal, ageless elf that it's painful and jars me every time he appears on screen. He's supposed to be a powerful, key figure in the whole saga of the rings, yet seems more like someone's kind but forgetful grandma who has wandered onto the set to hand out toffees.

@sabineb.5616

Жыл бұрын

Zipper47, I think you are on to something! I think HalRon needed to vacate the scene for a while because he is about to ditch his ailing Halbrand body and get himself a more powerful avatar. It's quite possible that the current characters will never find out that Halbrand has been Sauron in disguise all along. Personally I believe that the creepy priestesses will help Sauron to get a more powerful new body. I have no idea though, why they are interested in non-Gandalf aka the meteor man. It could be a case of mistaken identity.

I am not joking when I theorise that Slim Shady will end up as The Witch Queen, leader of the Nazgul. I'm super serious... its Amazon, folks.

You know they now make a big deal out of Frodo and Sam surviving the eruption of Mount Doom after they threw the ring inside. Lava that flows around you is not the same as a pyroclastic flow.

@frocat5163

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, there are a tremendous number of reasons why one can survive near lava, despite the tremendous heat. Lava is just melted rock (mostly). You can go to Hawaii and stand pretty close to lava flows without being harmed. A volcanic eruption in a volcano that has either never erupted or hasn't erupted for a long time, will release all manner of nastiness that will absolutely kill anyone anywhere near the thing. From the clips I've seen (I've not watched any more of this show than what's been in videos trashing it on KZread), 100% of the characters from the last episode should absolutely be dead. The gasses that would have been present in that cloud of "smoke" that enveloped everyone after the eruption would have prevented the characters within it from breathing for far longer than anyone can hold their breath. But, once again, the morons writing this garbage are only concerned with how something will appear on screen...they don't give a damn about how the story fits together.

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

Remember that Frodo and Sam were very, very poorly when rescued by the eagles and it took some time for them to recover. That was due to the fumes, because Mount Doom had been grumbling but not erupting for many long centuries.

I’m definitely not going to miss this catastrophe of a show - but I’m going to miss you guys and all your profound sarcasm 😂

I loved it when Galadrrrrrilel shouted at the pyroclastic flow "this is southland" and took another shot to beat Not-Sauron in a rap battle

#TeamSauron since episode 2 and my second team is #CelebornWasRight as he faked his death to escape Guyladriel

@jaqenhghar2970

Жыл бұрын

Celeborn basically did a Laenor from House of the Dragon.

@lucymiau5700

Жыл бұрын

I'm Team Volcano. But the Volcano needs more precision when spitting the next Lavabomb to the smelly Harfoots.

@01Seraph

Жыл бұрын

@@lucymiau5700 guyladriel tanked the vulcanic eruption head on... what hope do we have xD

@markmathisen3908

Жыл бұрын

Celeborn said he was going out for some Elvish cigarettes and she never saw him again. 😂

@lucymiau5700

Жыл бұрын

@@markmathisen3908 and then, he married a nice bearded Dwarven Woman and lived the best life ever.

This is the episode that finally broke me. No-one - NO-ONE outside of a fallout shelter should have survived that pyroclastic eruption. An explosion that decimates trees & buildings, but (mostly), leaves humans, orcs & horses intact. So, Mt Doom is a neutron bomb, izzit? Ridiculous doesn't even come CLOSE to describing this ineptly-written, unmitigated shit-show. Bah!!!

@MothraBlues

Жыл бұрын

"Dirty little sociopaths'! Love love LOVE it! ❤️

Really appreciate your "they have to be Maiar!" point. This point doesn't seem to be brought up by any other reviewers. It just seems like such a huge lore breaking change. Either that or they are Sauron.

Of all the fun I get from the failure of ROP, I like yours the most. Calmly and cleanly picking the stupidity apart, I really like that.

Dirty Little Sociopaths 🤣…Thank you for another excellent (and honest) review.

I'm starting to think the chubby female dwarf is actually Sauron. She was very openly evil at the end there and her eyes glow orange lmao. Both Durin Jr and Elrond lied to and screwed over King Durin within like ten minutes too. 😂😂🤮🤮

@Peterski

Жыл бұрын

This would actually align to The Message. Having the title character gay and trans 🤣

@marisbury

Жыл бұрын

@@Peterski how is Sauron a title character? He is side character in the show

@johns1625

Жыл бұрын

@@marisbury Sauron is the Lord of the Rings

@marisbury

Жыл бұрын

@@johns1625 wasn't that Frodo tho?

@johns1625

Жыл бұрын

@@marisbury No, Frodo didn't even have power over the one ring let alone the others. Sauron created ringlore and tricked the elves into helping him forge the rings of power, then he forged the one ring. He controls all of them. He's the Lord of the Rings.

thank you for continuing to review the show and sharing your honest thoughts.

@TheOneRingcom

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

I'm glad that you're the one doing it for us because I would never watch this show. I'm tired of feeling angry and sad when big corporations and posers destroy everything I love.

@audreybailey5139

Жыл бұрын

The best way to deal with this mess is to laugh at the garbage they are seriously putting on film.

@zoebaggins90

Жыл бұрын

Think of it this way: the books are still here.

Your channel is well balanced, not only insightful on the lore but in the context of storytelling in general. Some channels are just lore based but talking about the poor storytelling makes for a well rounded argument. Would love to join you guys next season for an episode synopsis.

Their biggest problem "is they ignore reality, land, time and distance" lovely line. I believe the biggest problem is that the show runners are just stupid. They want the visual of a big and deadly explosion but can't deal with the consequences, everyone survives, so stupid. Also it's so cheap how they cut together some scenes that meant to fix something (Celeborn, post edit i bet), the way they switch the name to Morder was powerpoint level of professionality. 60mio an episode ? where is the money gone ?? I would sue the shit out of these show runners if it was my money.

I love when Theo is sitting down joking about the Karendriel dancing story when he doesn't even know if is mother (who was pierced by an arrow and surely had several infections and fatal internal bleeding) survived burning hot lava fire coming towards her at 700mph. Great 👍

@amarieoflothlorien

Жыл бұрын

shew as pierced by two arrows, but one magically went away.

I hope Galadriel's three dragon eggs hatched.

I’m looking forward to the sequel to Lord of the Rings, now that I know that Sméagol would survive his plummet into the cracks of Doom.

Even if the pyroclastic cloud killed every single character in the show, nothing of value is lost.

In this Middle Earth, Sauron has been completely in charge of everything from the very beginning. And even he lost all interest, handed control over to one of his lesser qualified thralls, and turned his focus to more challenging iterations of Arda in the Music of the Ainur.

What's weird is Anime does mystery boxes all the time. Only difference is that it always planned out ahead of time.

@RoninDave

Жыл бұрын

mystery boxes work if they are either side things that can and should remain a mystery like the original "Space jockey" of Alien (before it was ruined in Prometheus decades later) or answered in a way that makes sense if as you say they were planned out ahead of time and I would add done in a way that supports the narrative and not as some gimmicky reveal for shock value.

@spacejunk2186

Жыл бұрын

The magic word is "payoff".

Elrond's insight, according to the show, was due to him being an outsider, which we saw in the first episode when he wasn't invited to a high council meeting because he wasn't pure elf.

HORROR! Galadriel's comment of Celeborn finding her dancing seems like a direct lift of Beren finding Luthien dancing. Luthien - inspired by Edith Tolkien, quite specifically not only her effect on Tolkien but also her dancing! He even had "Luthien" inscribed on her gravestone. They have gone beyond simply disrespecting the work and are now openly disrespecting Tolkien himself as a person and denigrating his dear wife with allusions to their horrible self-obsessed, entirely unlovely character they name Galadriel.

The showrunners say it will take them two years to finish season two.....once the furor dies down this mistake will quietly fade away. We will never see a season two. Next year we will see stock footage in several other amazon original productions that will remind us strongly of something we made ourselves forget.

I'm not well versed in Middle Earth lore at all, having only read the Hobbit and LOTR books and seen the movies (the movies inspired me to read the books) but thankfully The One Ring and a few other YT channels and online sources have helped me understand some (but so far a long way from all as there's so much of it) of the main themes and events of the Second Age, or at least enough to recognise that RoP actually has nothing to do with Tolkien's writing beyond using a few names. Timelines and events have been distorted beyond recognition or completely rewritten, the very essence of elves has been fundamentally changed (the mithril nonsense is absurd), and the lore characters bear no resemblance to those found in Tolkien's books. Telling us in episode SEVEN that Celeborn went MIA a few centuries - or even millennia - ago is the cherry on the cake. Did they hastily edit that scene in after realising they forgot about him? Worse, even if we put all the actual lore aside and gauge the show purely in its own right, it's an dire mess of bad writing, atrocious pacing, absurd dialogue, non-existent character development and tenuous viewer engagement. Despite the enormous budget almost everything feels small scale and strangely cheap and the 'plot' (I use the term very loosely) relies entirely upon mystery boxes and contrivance. A 13 year old novice Dungeon Master trying a first campaign set in Middle Earth would likely present better scenarios than the writers of this have done. I genuinely feel for the actors given they have so very little to work with. All that said, if people are enjoying RoP then great. I'm actually somewhat envious because I really wanted to enjoy it too, but it's just not working at all for me. And hey, if the show somehow inspires some viewers to read the books then there's at least a silver lining to the disappointment of it all, but I fear that it's just as likely that viewers new to Tolkien might look at this mess of a show, assume it's a faithful adaptation, and wonder why on earth Tolkien is so highly respected in the first place.

The "dwarves made from fire and rock" thing solidifies Durin III's knowledge of the Balrog. If Dwarves and Balrogs are both created of fire, then Shadow would be the only difference worth noting. DURIN III KNEW. If you are looking at a picture of two white guys, one with a red hat and one with a green hat, you wouldn't say "the white guy with a green hat" you'd just say "green hat"

It's interesting what you said about the mystery boxes, there are just so many of them it's painful.

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

Mystery boxes or Mother Boxes? Given that people teleport, time travel, get healed mysteriously etc. I suspect there’s Mother Boxes involved.

Agree with most things said here, but there are some magic users who are not elven or maiar. In fact we know that some of the men who would become the Ringwraiths were sorcerers. And there would be no question of whether the "necromancer" was really Sauron or not if there was no other alternative capable of dark magic. It is much more rare though, and I hope they aren't made to do flashy Harry Potter style spells.

I did a little research. The volcano island of Krakatau exploded in year 1883. The eruption was a so called phreatomagmatic eruption. This is an eruption in which water is involved. The lava or a pyroclastic density current and the water come in direct contact and the volcano literally explodes. Krakatau was completely destroyed back then. The shock wave was so strong it went around earth for 7 times. The explosion was so loud, you could hear it up to 4800km away. What followed was a massive amount of ash in the air, very hot pyroclastic flows and gas over the water, a massive tsunami that destroyed a lot of the island Java and Sumatra. The pyroclastic flows that rushed over the water reached north Sumatra in very little time cause they were 800km/h fast. The north of Sumatra is around 1300km away from Krakatau. The waves of the tsunami were two times higher then the ones in 2004. 36000 people died. What we see in the show is this kind of eruption cause there is water involved and it hits the lava directly. The whole of middle earth should at least hear this. No one and nothing near the eruption can survive this.

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

A sea irl vs a river in RoP.

So Elrond is multiracial. All this time we were missing this crucial part of his intersectional identity.

@shadowwynd6641

Жыл бұрын

He is called Elrond half-Elven in the books…. Technically also Elrond half-man. And sure, this gives him a unique perspective on both races.

@amarieoflothlorien

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowwynd6641 actually Elrond has elven, human and Maiar blood through Luthien.

@shadowwynd6641

Жыл бұрын

@@amarieoflothlorien yes, I know, but introducing yourself as Elrond, the 9/16th elven 3/8th human 1/16th Maia mix doesn’t roll off the tongue as easily.

*Dwarves mine mithril for centuries making huge noise* *balrog sleeps peacefully* *Leaf falls in front of balrog* *balrog👀*

I so happy that the blind queen enjoyed the sea and landscape views from the mountaintop and the prow of a ship because, you know, blind.

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

Surprise! She’s now a Demon Hunter! Next, Illidan Stormrage will turn up in Numenor to arrange tattoos for her.

I actually like Queen Disa. I think she also acts in a believable way, and she is the only dwaf to actually display real greed, something that more often than not curses dwarves. Durin IV is changing opinions each episode: from "I distrust elves and must do what my father says", to "I fking love elves and Elrond, must save them even by ignoring my father, the ruling King". Poor writing. Durin III seems to level headed, which isn't bad, but I was totally lacking the greed of the dwarves. Disa is the one that displays that, and I was actually grateful.

Really enjoy your content bc you have deep knowledge of these great works from Tolkien. One suggestion: There’s a lot of wind noise and pops from your breath hitting the diaphragm of your mic as you speak. This is a very common thing for those of us who record audio to do. It’s also very easy to fix. If you’ll turn your mic or head, just slightly, so the two are not directly in line with each other, it’ll correct most of it. There are a couple times you shift your head and actually adhesive this, one of them is at 19:35. Again thank you for the content and perspective you provide. You’ve earned my sub.

@TheOneRingcom

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. I know. I think one of my young kids grabbed my mic cover at some point, and I can't find it... They will meet the wrath of Dad if I find it in their room. 😜

Maybe the Cultists are this shows 'Ringwraiths' - not literally, but they wanted something like those 'Dark Riders', so they flip a few things and come up with the 'White Witches'...

If the Balrog is awake already how can there be any methril in LOTR if they aren't going to get a chance to mine it?

@clogs4956

Жыл бұрын

Quite.

You know as far as fantasy goes there are possible ways to possibly survive a volcano blast. The only problem is they choose one of the most grounded fantasies to exist. If this was set in a world where magic and monsters were as typical as seeing a tree than I might buy a powerful wizard or elf surviving something like this. Tolkien's world was always in a state of decline. By the end of the second age all the powerful monsters and elves are mostly gone outside a few exceptions. I'm an anime fan I see god knows how many OP characters. Here's the thing though anime builds up their characters properly. They give them personalities and a cool backstory behind them. You learn what they're capable of throughout the story. It's always a show not tell mentality which is what I crave in western fantasy shows. Don't tell me! SHOW ME! That's the main problem here we don't even Galadriel's limits or what she has at her disposal. She was fine searching for one of the most powerful beings in middle earth but hides when there are few orcs in a forest. She's fine riding upside down on a horse and yet gives her sword away to a complete novice. Her character flips so often I think she's gone from an oak plank to a pine plank. She talks about Celeborn this episode which you might think is a good thing but it's not as it now makes you wonder why the hell were you out searching for Sauron but not your husband and lover. That's insane that's like a mother searching for a kidnapper instead of the kidnapped child. Yes she would want to punish the bad guy but loved ones would always come first. That's basic human nature.

For connoisseur of "Jumping the Shark", the survival of all named cast members in the face of a 1000+ Celsius 500 mph pyroclastic flow, without so much as a singed eye brow, must rank exceeding high.

12:52 Isn't the numenorean encampment basically a tent city? Why are there so many candles inches away from the fabric walls? That place will turn into an inferno at the slightest breeze.

If Halbrand was so seriously wounded that he needed Elven medicine, how was he able to walk to a horse, mount a horse and take the two-week journey without dying enroute?

@rio20d

Жыл бұрын

we just need to switch off our brain , just to be able to watch this lol

Game of Thrones didn't unlock Fast Travel until Season 7 but Rings of Power unlocked it out of the gate. As for season quality, I know some shows got off to a rocky start before they got their footing but that was in creating their own story. Here they have all this rich lore from Tolkien who has been popular for more than half a century and close to a century with The Hobbit but they have so deviated from it that it's no longer a Tolkien story in the slightest. The themes, characters, lore have been so changed to be unrecognizable to anyone with a passing knowledge of Tolkien's works. Without a complete reboot, this show is doomed to mediocrity and early cancellation.

@ringbearer1420

Жыл бұрын

That started around season 4 with Yara’s one day trip from the Iron Isles to the Dreadfort.

@frocat5163

Жыл бұрын

The only issue with what you're saying is that these idiots don't actually have access to most of that lore. They can only use the events within _The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings,_ and LotR Appendices. If they were to adhere to closely to events in, say, _The Silmarillion_ or _The Book of Lost Tales_ or _Unfinished Tales,_ they'd almost certainly be sued by the Tolkien estate and (possibly) lose the rights to continue making the show. I certainly wouldn't be sad if that happened... Also, despite only having access to those three sources, _competent_ writers could have written an interesting story that, while deviating from the story from those off-limits sources, would still have maintained the essence of Tolkien. Instead, they decided to chuck a poorly written YA fantasy/romance novel, a soap opera, and a bunch of unrealistic "diversity" into a blender, and then dumped it out all over our faces.

Miriel doesn't want the others to know she is blind. So why is she wearing a blindfold?

@amarieoflothlorien

Жыл бұрын

Its not a blindfold, it's sunglasses Numenor style

Maybe they want to kill isildur and his sister dresses impersonates him so that a woman is the one to actually cut saurons hand with the ring...

I felt the same thing about the dwarves made of fire and rock. this show is constantly gaslighting true Tolkien fans with bizarre unnecessary mythology changes

@KororaPenguin

Жыл бұрын

Aulë crafted them with primate biology. not exothermic oxidation reactions and silicate minerals.

2:05 Not only has Galadriel survived, but even her armor has not suffered a scratch or dent ...

This show should probably be seen as the Second Age with Sauron as storyteller. For example this could be what Sauron shows Denethor in the Palantir. That explains why the hobbits as well as the main elven and men characters are portrayed as evil or stupid, while the viewer is inclined to feel sympathy for the orcs. Of course Sauron does not care the slightest for the wellbeing of the orcs, but he wants to reduce the resistance against orcs among men -- this benefits Sauron because the orcs are easier for him to control. The men of the west are Saurons worst enemies, and by distorting their Numenorian history he weakens their identity and makes them dislike their own kind. This is the kind of propaganda Sauron uses to destroy civilizations from within. Similarly he makes a lot of characters look like easterlings and southerlings, to further reduce the western identity. This makes it easier for him to mix his enemies with people which he believes are more easily manipulated, and he anticipates that a mixed civilization will be weakened by internal conflicts. The end purpose of the propaganda is always the same, namely to allow Sauron to dominate all life.

@alekseizaitsev58

Жыл бұрын

Wow! Nice point

@kristiandimitrov7066

Жыл бұрын

I mean when you yourself are evil, that’s all you know

Once you've discovered a location, you can fast travel there.

Great take, love the dwarves too. I went into the series without any knowledge of the books and only a vague memory of the LotR series. I assumed the time line was a thousand years in the past before the LotR series and Elrond was the only name that drew any connection to the LotR series for me. I thought this was Sauron's origin story, so I thought the man that fell from the sky was Sauron, but something happened and he forgot he was evil. It didn't even occur to me that it was Gandalf. The man being Sauron creates so much more tension, since they made the harfoots so unlikable I figured they were all going to get killed once Sauron remembered who he was. Might even turn the girl harfoot that helped him into a orc or something. The backstory should have had Adar poison or curse Sauron, to free himself and his children. Free from Sauron Adar and his orc children would be misunderstood victims trying to fight their evil nature and find a home, Adar would struggle with his children wanting to murder everyone they come across during their migration. They end up in Mordor because it is uninhabitable by normal people and the only place that will keep his children safe and the rest of the world safe from them. While Sauron is with the harfoots regaining his memories and true nature. Once restored he seeks revenge on Adar and reclaims his orc army. In the end everything Adar did to help his people only served to put Sauron exactly where he needed to be and to become even stronger. Season 2 once his kingdom in Mordor is fully established he begins to form the rings of power. The surviving traumatized harfoots flee as far north as they can the establish the shire. It writes itself.

@leovalijarvi324

Жыл бұрын

Sounds intresting

I love how rangs og power makes me lose focus and start washing dishes or sketch stuff. Actually want to do anything else than watching that show. Also these reviews are nice to get insight on good storywriting. I feel we can learn alot from this.

We know Guyladriel is a Noldor elf, and elves even though they are immortal ( as in dont age and dont get disease, they still can die and be killed by weapon, by natural disasters and so on). There is no way they could have survived Pyroclastic Flow as it will destroy everything in its path. The best evidence that even Noldor Elves could not survive volcanic eruptions comes from Tolkien himself. The following is a passage from The Silmarillion: ..."and the Mountains of Iron belched forth fires of many poisonous hues, and the fume of them stank upon the air, and was deadly. Thus Ard-galen perished, and fire devoured its grasses; and it became a burned and desolate waste, full of a choking dust, barren and lifeless. Thereafter its name was changed, and it was called Anfauglith, the Gasping Dust .Many charred bones had there their roofless grave; for many of the NOLDOR perished in that burning, who were caught by the running flame and could not fly to the hills. the Showrunners are just abusing the plot armor on her and the rest of the main characters.

@amarieoflothlorien

Жыл бұрын

Glorfindel died fighting a Balrog, Gandalf, an Istari died fighting a Balrog, Thingol died by the hands of the dwarves. Feanor and his sons killed many elves by blade. Yet Galadriel survives this.....sure LOL!!!

ngl i was defending this show from the beginning i just love tolkiens world so much but this episode 7 is actually garbage

It feels like the Dwarf's storyline has been written by a different group of writers. Keep these guys. Fire the rest.

I don't mind Durin the elder saying they were created from fire and stone, necessarily. Rights to the Silmarillion and other works aside, it's not crazy to think that the Dwarves would believe their creator would have forged them from fire and stone, as it would fall along their own love for creating things from fire and stone. I take it less as fact and more of a story passed down through the ages.

The only positive thing to come of the show is that the crappy writing prompted me to order all of and begin reading Tolkien's works, which I've never read one of. I started with the Silmarillion. My suspicions of how bad they could have got the lore of Numenor has almost been undersold by the details this dumpster fire of a show could have filled in over several seasons. It also got me to scurry the internet for Middle-Earth maps because just watching the great LotR trilogy I didn't need to because the movie established distance. This show depicts teleportation great.

At this stage I’d actually be happy if season 2 came and didn’t include anything from the first season and the real Galadriel wakes up and rolls over to Celeborn and said fuck me! That was a nightmare and we get a true love letter to Tolkien with new writers and show runners…perhaps even a different studio…you know, just saying

This is so bad, that it borderlines with hilarity. At this point, this is a slapstick comedy. Sheer comedy.

The Showrunners successfully transported Tolkien to modern day. Which is fantastic, when the century long fascination was escaping into a mythology from long times gone, masterfully in all details created by Professor Tolkien so it felt like a authentic saga. And it took him a lifetime until now these folks did a great job modernizing and rewriting this mythology in only a couple of episodes, can’t wait to see what’s more to come!