The Rings Of Power Pitch Meeting
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Step inside the Pitch Meeting that led to The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power!
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Amazon Studios decided to step up their game a few years ago by spending something like 250 million dollars on the rights to make a Lord of the Rings TV show. And then to make sure it was really good they spent another 750 million on production. So there you have it. One billion dollars! Instant classic, guaranteed! Right? That’s how it works, right?
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power definitely raises some questions. Like why is Galadriel so invincible and powerful? What were the odds of her stumbling upon Sauron in the middle of the ocean? Was she really just planning on swimming across an ocean to get home? Are volcanic eruptions not a huge deal? What was with that weird Rube Goldberg set-up at Mordor?
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Watching the pitch meeting rather than the actual show is tight
@SmiteThatButton
Жыл бұрын
So much faster too
@capthavic
Жыл бұрын
It's super easy, barely an inconvenience :)
@AnitreaSadi
Жыл бұрын
Hahhahahahahahhahaha!!!!!!!! This comment was great.
@masterlinktm
Жыл бұрын
A lot of the time the pitch meeting even makes the source not sound as bad. But this time it couldn't help at all.
@TheGuyAcrossSpace
Жыл бұрын
It sure is sir!
I thought Galadriel was going to turn out to be Sauron. She had all the character traits.
@somerandolad
Жыл бұрын
That would've been a better twist.
@wateim3951
Жыл бұрын
wait for season 2
@rubensoeteman
Жыл бұрын
Sauron being a shapeshifter in the lore, it is definitely possible as an actual twist.
@32shumble
Жыл бұрын
@@rubensoeteman Yes, perhaps the real Galadriel will be released from some sort of prison somewhere and turn out not to be a b*****h at all?
@Kerbezena
Жыл бұрын
That's actually an insult to Annatar / Artano / Aulendil.
So let me get this straight: Guy slams sword into wall which activates a machine to flood an area with water. The machine ends up flooding the tunnels the orks dug. But that also causes a volcano to explode which is the birth of Mordor. Are you sure this chain of events wasn't caused by a prehistoric squirrel trying to hide an acorn?
@lancecarlisle1749
Жыл бұрын
When you can compare LOTR to Scrat from Ice Age with any degree of seriousness, you know something's gone horribly wrong with your script.
@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access
Жыл бұрын
@@lancecarlisle1749 **swats you firmly on the nose** NO. This is NOT LOTR. LOTR is the Peter jackson masterpiece. This pile of absolute dribble is Rings of Poop I mean Power, an abomination of Amazons making.
@grocksauce7422
Жыл бұрын
garbage, isn’t it
@Dowlphin
Жыл бұрын
The tunnels and trenches dug channeled the water into the molten core (not THE Molten Core, and the fiery Balrog actually lives in a deep crevice among the roots of the Elven power tree), so the explosive evaporation of all that water somehow didn't cool the mountain or made it exhaust steam but made it shoot lava cannon balls and cover the land in an avalanche of fiery dust that Galadriel saw no reason to hide from, and I assumed because of her guilt and wanting to die, but the other villagers didn't matter to her; nothing new there. She even had the same overconfident, self-absorbed copypaste hero face when it happened. Oh and air filled with smoke makes one or two people cought once, but most of them are heavy smokers, especially the people with plot armor. And the queen was surprise-to-everyone (mostly, later completely) blinded and had to ask when the smoke will pass to shoehorn a lame surprise also pushed along by totally not using your common eye VFX to indicate it but her eyes were clear and crisp all the time and yet for some reason she had cataract symptoms. Because applying eye VFX was either too expensive (ha-ha) or would have ruined that genius surprise scene of her blindness being revealed.
@SubjectDelta20
Жыл бұрын
I heard most tree's on earth today we're planted from squirrels burying their nuts and forgetting where they buried them.
Galadrial jumping off the boat and then planning on swimming 3000 miles in a dress with no food,water or sleep then accidentally bumping into sauron half way across is so absolutely ridiculous that i can't believe someone actually signed off on it and was like yeah that will work
@yukie_tn
5 ай бұрын
This was where I knew I was watching something special... specially bad, that is.
@Norvik_-ug3ge
5 ай бұрын
Galadriel in Quenya literally means Great Blonde Shark Lady 😊
@hypothalapotamus5293
5 ай бұрын
Let's think about it logically. Galadriel is a witch. 🧙♀️-->🔥. 🪵-->🔥. Thus, 🧙♀️ is made of🪵. 🧙♀️~⛵️. Thus, Galadriel traversing vast stretches of ocean is logical.
@thedude3065
5 ай бұрын
It’s so anti-Tolkien
@cosandreas9414
5 ай бұрын
So you have an issue with this, but not with magical rings, elves, I big eye in the sky and the fact that Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli ran for three days without stopping when chasing after Merry and Pippin? Wtf? Gives a new meaning to selective rage... Also Galadriel had a much tougher time reaching middle earth in the first place crossing the Helcaraxe.
Randomly finding Sauron in the middle of a giant ocean is apparently super easy, barely an inconvenience.
@noctuammagic1260
Жыл бұрын
Well same goes for a lot of things in Tolkien. Bilbo falling to the exact place in goblin town where gollum(who happened to be fishing in the exact place of the river where the one ring fell) lives, who happens to have the ring, which happens to have the exact power a burglar like Bilbo will need in the future. Tolkien is full of weird coincidences if you look closely. This is not exclusive to RoP.
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
Surviving pyroclastic flows is also super easy, barely an inconvenience. Someone should have told queeny to close her eyes though.
@LizardSpork
Жыл бұрын
Sauron randomly meeting Galadriel in the middle of the ocean and then eventually being led to the exact set of circumstances he needed to forge the rings is even tighter.
@forbiddencroisant
Жыл бұрын
@@noctuammagic1260 that's fine and all, but what the heck was Galadriel's plan?? Swim across the entire ocean??
@monikasuszek3434
Жыл бұрын
@@kaltaron1284 too bad the Pompeians didn’t know about that 😢
"Young and immature" Galadriel is actually the oldest elf in the show, which the writers conveniently seemed to have forgotten in their desires to portray her as an arrogant youth
@maxpower3990
Жыл бұрын
I mean she is only about 5000 years old, saw the birth of the Sun and Moon and spent centuries being mentored by a Mair. An angelic being similar in power and knowledge to Sauron or Gandalf.
@claudewinters2091
Жыл бұрын
@@maxpower3990 That's still a young teen girl in ROP .... Or an old looking dude... I just don't even know .... In order to enjoy the show ... The only recourse was to ignore sense .. and just say ok at everything even when practically everyone survived pyroclastic ash to the face & body ... It is but a scratch... After all
@NathanSlaymaker
Жыл бұрын
@@maxpower3990 And many of the years she grew up in were Valian years, which were Much longer longer than Solar years.
@johnmihelis1699
Жыл бұрын
Isn't she like, literally, one of the first elves ever created? I seem to recall she was one of the Eldar, the first generation of elves created in Vallinor
@Alondro77
Жыл бұрын
Thousands of years old, and still a bratty arrogant teenager... I think the wokies are projecting a lot.
The audacity of a bunch of nobody Hollywood writers literally saying, "Tolkien wasn't a very good writer, so we decided to do our own thing."
@BurritoKingdom
2 ай бұрын
Not Hollywood writers. Amazon is in Seattle. The show was filmed in New Zealand. Heck, this is the show runners first thing they were ever credited with. It just seems Jeff Bezos was blowing a billion just for funsies.
@The_Reductionist
Ай бұрын
They did the same with wheel of time. Its a difference story using the same title and character names.
@rtr01
29 күн бұрын
The wheel of time dragged on at one point but the show oh man the show was so bland, and pacing was ridiculous.
@vfvs11a
26 күн бұрын
I'll say what everyone is avoiding saying, they don't care about the source material, just wearing it as a skin suit for woke proselytization.
@genericname1622
20 күн бұрын
@@The_Reductionist They butchered Rand's character and gave away his accomplishments to everyone else. So frustrating to watch.
Turning the over 6' tall and ethereally majestic Galadriel into a tiny angry lady is tight!
@CorePathway
8 ай бұрын
Super easy, barely an incompetence.
@david7384
4 ай бұрын
tiny angry ladies are tight!
@MrJimheeren
4 ай бұрын
I just kinda pretended that she was a different Galadriel the whole time, then it’s fine,
@MollyHJohns
4 ай бұрын
@@MrJimheeren not a different Galadriel. Simply Not-Galadriel.
@relrond6111
4 ай бұрын
She's 6'4
I've been waiting for this to drop longer than it took for Galadriel to figure out who Halbrand was
@yoyomayne
Жыл бұрын
Same
@illumi9044
Жыл бұрын
Lmao 😂To be fair, I didn’t realize either…
@shpreenten
Жыл бұрын
It was obvious from the first episode!
@53prime
Жыл бұрын
@@illumi9044 same
@woodside4life
Жыл бұрын
Awwww snap!!!
I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired this Pitch Meeting.
@ibrahimjaved5574
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm why shouldn't I watch it again?
@phimseto
Жыл бұрын
It is a gift!
@makani9004
Жыл бұрын
There was definitely a tempest in me.
@whitegoose2017
Жыл бұрын
@@makani9004 THERE IS A HURRICANE IN ME THAT WILL STRIP AMAZON BARE
@GCEXTREMEMN
Жыл бұрын
In the place of a great movie you will have a horrible tv series, as lame as milk, and you will need to get aaaall the way off my back about its cost
"The elves need this stuff or they're gonna die" "Why" "Because they'll die if they don't get it" "Oh, alright." I am 1000% sure this exchange actually happened in the real pitch meeting.
@jessehamm3573
Жыл бұрын
I'm 1000% in agreement.
@partyboi8773
Жыл бұрын
That episode was where I decided I just couldn't anymore. Elves, whose immortality and immunity to disease are an absolute pillar of Tolkien's worldbuilding, are dying because someone's Screenwriting 101 class told them they needed CONFLICT AND SUSPENSE, DAMMIT!!! And Mithril is some sort of magical love-child of a Balrog getting jiggy with a tree in a lightning storm--I didn't know metals needed origin stories. Can't wait for the ROP writers to give us the sordid tale of where tin comes from!
@Ale-dd3ek
10 ай бұрын
@@partyboi8773we could probably write a thesis about why the Mithril plot line Is basically blasphemous 😂
@themarsh429
8 ай бұрын
Are we sure Ryan didn't actually pitch this one himself?
@elyaskiritsis3115
7 ай бұрын
Technically Elves were dying. But it had nothing to do with mithril. It had to do with the defeat of evil lessening the magic in Middle Earth. The longer they live, the more their soul gets frayed and torn.
"Hey, shut up!" is pretty much the only answer the showrunners have for the 8 billion plotholes in this series.
@berengustav7714
10 ай бұрын
Tolkien drew from history because he's an historian,but people piss on him and fantasy as a legit genre because "fantasy should have no Basis in real world,it's for stupid kids."
@jennyanydots2389
9 ай бұрын
And how many bee wholes?
@hypothalapotamus5293
5 ай бұрын
Hey! Don't make fun of the showrunners. Their wikipedia page says they are super accomplished young directors in their mid 40s, known for writing a script for Star Trek: Beyond that was ultimately rejected and their work on a Flash remake that nobody plans to make... 😂😂😂😂 No, but seriously... One of them is probably Bezos's illegitimate son.
@nathanmorgan3647
4 ай бұрын
Oh, please, "Shut up" isn't their only answer. They also like to throw out the ol' "you're just an ultra right-wing racist scumbag" too.
@neuralnetwork17
12 күн бұрын
@@hypothalapotamus5293 Wait what? I should probably factcheck this when I'm done laughing.
Sauron telling Celebrimbor to mix metals is like me telling Gordon Ramsay to add salt 🤣
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
Celembrimbor was portrayed as an idiot sandwich though.
@vsGoliath96
Жыл бұрын
Also loving that the elves already had the idea to make the rings before Sauron even showed up.
@TurinTuramber
Жыл бұрын
Yes but only if Gordon Ramsay had been a great chef for millennia instead of 20years.
@sauros1
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't have galadriel give him the tip instead.
@johannesseyfried7933
Жыл бұрын
"Have you tried turning it on and off yet?"
Actually super nice from Amazon to put 1 billion into the show, so that Ryan can put this entertaining 7 minute video together, which is clearly the only and intended purpose of the whole project.
@iambicpentakill971
Жыл бұрын
Worth it.
@impartial_idea2497
Жыл бұрын
lol
@targard.quantumfrack6854
Жыл бұрын
Purposefuly intending is tight!
@alexejfrohlich5869
Жыл бұрын
@@targard.quantumfrack6854 ewww... that sounded very weird and somewhat illegal when you said it...
@TheLastNewYorker
Жыл бұрын
That whole part.
“Is she planning to swim back to Middle Earth? Hah hah” “Ha. Yeah, that’s the plan.” “Oh my god you’re serious.” That was fairly close to my reaction when I first watched it.
@fullmetalprism5249
9 ай бұрын
That’s Guyladriel for ya 😂😂😂😂
@ghyslainabel
8 ай бұрын
This is why Google had to remove the "swim across the Atlantic ocean" joke from Google Map, Amazon Galadriel was stupid enough to try it.
@rogueascendant6611
7 ай бұрын
It was written that swimming from Middle Earth to Valinor and vice versa is not possible. During the First and Second Age, no one was dumb enough to do that. The distance between the two continents is the same distance of traveling from Spain to New York. Not even the Elves themselves can survive for too long.
@TJRymer89
6 ай бұрын
Whoa whoa whoa!... You *watched* it?
@DarrellTurnerJr
5 ай бұрын
I only watched this show because I didn't believe they had a scene this stupid. I ended up watching the entire season just so I could get on KZread after and have context for the people criticizing it. It was like watching a train wreck live and then watching the news cover the wreck
Seems like Sauron could have accrued more power by just hanging out with Galadriel and having her tell people that he's in charge now.
@xdevantx5870
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Sauron basically does propose that to her and her response is basically "you're evil and you killed my brother" and he's confused and like "That's a problem? Oh well" then drowns her in a river and leaves.
@wolfiewoo3371
Жыл бұрын
@@xdevantx5870 Why didn't he finish the job?
@kyfetrombetta3691
Жыл бұрын
@@wolfiewoo3371 Season 2 i guess
@wolfiewoo3371
Жыл бұрын
@@kyfetrombetta3691 That's not a good reason.
@matthiaswelzel8447
Жыл бұрын
@@wolfiewoo3371 You misspelled season.
That quick dismissive “ Hey shut up “ always gets me 😂 😂😂😂
@segments2156
Жыл бұрын
i loved the show, and i loved the pitch meeting... however, the "hey shut up" was misplaced, because there is a good reason why they know exactly where to go... Sauron/Halbrand is with them and he knows Adar's plan.
@99baji99
Жыл бұрын
-no it's not!-
@lunamaria1048
Жыл бұрын
I love the "Actually it's gonna by super easy, barely an inconvenience"😂
@Danntheman1776
Жыл бұрын
@@segments2156 hey shut up
@logansaxby7224
Жыл бұрын
@SEGMENTS how does it feel defending a piece of shit? Cause curious 🤨
Ryan has an uncanny ability to both mock, while giving a completely accurate plot synopsis.
@jonathannieves1000
Жыл бұрын
Hardly counts as mocking when he's just saying exactly what happened in the show 😂
@mrcat3493
Жыл бұрын
@@jonathannieves1000 lol. IKR? This is one of the most spot on and yet hilarious pitch meetings, and he really didn’t do anything. You don’t have to change or embellish a thing.
@30noir
Жыл бұрын
That's kind of easy nowadays.
@S....
Жыл бұрын
True, even when it feels like your comment is not well placed, since mocking this particular show is so easy.
@reezlaw
Жыл бұрын
Some plots mock themselves
Me at the start of the season: That's not Gandalf that would be too stupid. Me in the middle of the season: Yup this show is dumb enough, that's Gandalf.
@vampuricknight1
Жыл бұрын
Yep, I realized very quickly the writers never even read the silmarillion... In the books, Gandalf comes in on a boat and basically starts off his journey where it ends at the end of lord of the rings, also gets given one of the rings of power over Saruman (a small slight which builds over the centuries and is a slight foreshadowing of their eventual clash in LotR's), both of these things were well written and serves not only as a fair starting point for an important character but works to set the stage for the rest of the story. But yeah RoP is dumb enough to ignore all that and go... you know I really liked playing Diablo 3, like REALLY liked it... so anyway I just learned Gandalf was essentially an Angel in Tolkien's lore... wouldn't it be cool if we had him fall from a meteor just like Tyrael in Diablo 3... OMG no one would see that coming! That would be so cool bro... it like subverts expectations and stuff... who doesn't like big explosions! I clapped just thinking about it.
@RubyDoobieScoo
11 ай бұрын
Sounds like they managed to trick one person then.
@theonewithoutalife8519
10 ай бұрын
I thought that they were trying to make you think that it's gandalf, but than reveal that they're saruman.
8 ай бұрын
@@vampuricknight1IIRC, they didn't have the rights to the Silmarillion, only to the appendices(!) of TLOTR.
@aquilamxp6267
8 ай бұрын
@@theonewithoutalife8519 that would require the writers to have down the basics of writing. You give them too much credit, sir :)
The plot of galadriels being mad about her brother being dead is so dumb, especially since elves don't actually die when they die in middle earth their spirit gets returned to valinor and is eventually given form again. So galadriels brother was probably just chilling in valinor waiting for his sister to come back and see him just to hear she jumped off the boat in the middle of the ocean for some reason
@nathanmorgan3647
4 ай бұрын
Not probably, he literally was fast-tracked to rebirth for his role in saving the man Beren, leading ultimately to Morgoth's downfall and is alive and reunited with his wife in Valinor during this period.
Making Middle Earth feel like a small town where you can just bump into key characters at any point is tight!
@rossboedy8456
Жыл бұрын
bumping randomly to what is obviously the main antagonist in the ocean is tight!
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
You'd have more trouble bumping into the right person you just need at that moment even in a small hamlet. But I guess oceans aren't that big.
@vullord666
Жыл бұрын
Oh god they’re becoming Disney.
@TheeDawson
Жыл бұрын
@@kaltaron1284 bro Oceans are Famously small
@JJJBunney001
Жыл бұрын
To be fair that's literally all of the books too, it's a bit of a fantasy trope
My new hobby is not watching shows that come out and just waiting for them to be done and then watching the pitch meeting to see exactly what I didn't miss
@henriccarlsson9052
Жыл бұрын
You and me both man.
@cornelius8617
Жыл бұрын
I'm sick of woke shows
@ian_b
Жыл бұрын
Mostly the same. I can't be bothered with the grind.
@Alexanderiii
Жыл бұрын
Amen.
@kreehomel
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like that's super easy, barely an inconvenience.
That Mordor origin story is so heavy-handed. They couldn't even work in the reveal organically through dialogue. They literally -- _literally_ -- spelled it out for the audience because apparently someone using the elven word "mor-dor" in a scene describing the aftermath of the eruption would be too difficult.
@EwetoobSucks
Жыл бұрын
03:56 cheap porn. "and then this bad villager dude is going to shove his magical sword into this ruth ginsburg thing which makes a damn volcano go off !"
@LuaanTi
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that it kind of kills the whole point with Mordor showing an _industrial_ wasteland. And Isengard (much later) becoming the same thing due to the actions of Saruman, of course. It wasn't created in a single massive disaster, it was decades and centuries of disregard for the environment. But I guess Amazon would hardly push an origin story that says "unrestricted environmental and labour exploitation is bad", would they? :P
@dodojesus4529
Жыл бұрын
@@LuaanTi yeah i always assumed mordor being cancer HQ was a result of sauron jacking of into the mountain for decades on end
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
Жыл бұрын
@@dodojesus4529nah, it was Galadriel not ending some guys minecraft let’s play.
@fab-ian
9 ай бұрын
Maybe the Scottish dwarven king could have been killed. "There's been a mordor!"
The fact that he didn't even cover half of the problems with that show just says a lot.
@hoilst265
8 ай бұрын
The fact that KZread is clogged with 52-minute-long 6-minute videos...well, I respect Ryan more.
@AeridisArt
7 ай бұрын
@@hoilst265 pretty sure OP is making a dig on the show, not Ryan, saying that the show has so many things odd and wrong that Ryan wouldn't be able to fit it in one Pitch Meeting vid.
The amount of opportunities to say “super easy barely an inconvenience” this show offers is staggering
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
Probably at least one per episode.
@Yarblocosifilitico
Жыл бұрын
- Woah, it's gonna be hard to fail at one of the widest known, most universally loved franchises in history, when we also have the biggest budget ever. - Actually...
@fredbyoutubing
Жыл бұрын
A bit like Aragorn just happening to stumble into an army of ghosts that answers only to him because he's wielding a blade that was reforged and given to him right before?
@claudewinters2091
Жыл бұрын
@@fredbyoutubing uhmmm no... The ghost army was known to exist for hundreds of years and only the king to be could summon them. It wasn't accidental or just happened... It was a well known story for the elves, dwarves and Rohirim ... So I don't understand your point
@hexcodeff6624
Жыл бұрын
@@fredbyoutubing That only counts as one
Another case where the Pitch Meeting is FAR better than the actual show
@CorePathway
Жыл бұрын
I was kinda hoping for a 45 minute deep dive into the comical and amateurish BS, but Ryan and his evil twin don’t deserve the brain damage that would have caused
@agingophelia9812
Жыл бұрын
Order of magnitude better: several million.
@addex1236
Жыл бұрын
Going to be honest as good as this was it's not hard being better than The Rings of Power hell frankly that should be a minimum expectation
@helltaker6865
Жыл бұрын
I mean, not that high a bar nowadays, mostly
@MegaAndyGG
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. This is like 10 times better and more entertaining than the actual show. Also much better acting lmfao
Tolkien himself said he left some gaps in the story for others to fill. But then they just didn’t fill the gaps and rewrote the stuff around the gaps
@RainAngel111
Жыл бұрын
There was seriously so much they could have done without messing with canon at all.
@wilfredoUbatuba
Жыл бұрын
amazon took a giant dump into the gaps
@misanthropicservitorofmars2116
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but that’s not fun
@jennyanydots2389
9 ай бұрын
Actually it's pronounced Token bro.
@Paulafan5
8 ай бұрын
They even messed up the Rings of Power being created. If there's one thing they can't mess up it's that.
This pitch meeting probably got better views than the actual show.
i'm 99% sure that's exactly how that pitch meeting went
@nathanphillipsgo
Жыл бұрын
Ya but they were serious.
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
Nah, too much self-reflection and criticism.
@YuzuruA
Жыл бұрын
i can bet that no bc i dont think they knew the ending
@AchedSphinx
Жыл бұрын
just throw a bunch of money at it, it'll work itself out. pretty crazy the budget for the whole thing is 1 billion buckaroos, I figured rich people would be so skittish about making their money back they'd move to another planet.
@rayalbion9637
Жыл бұрын
99.999%
It’s shocking that in the real world, there are dozens of writers working together for thousands of hours, and not one said “hey maybe this plot line sucks?”
@maxweber06
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure some did and were promptly fired and slapped with an NDA. The writing staff likely created their own echo chamber.
@ZugzugZugzugson
Жыл бұрын
there was in fact a lore guy assisting the writers at the start of the process, but he left the team for "unknown reasons", so either they fired him for constantly telling them their shit can't fly according to the lore or he left the team himself in utter frustration
@MollyFC
Жыл бұрын
Nobody was like "I'm good is the best we can write, really?"
@ianpatterson6552
Жыл бұрын
@@ZugzugZugzugson Tom Shippey was the gent in question. Renewed Tolkien scholar.
@GeraltofRivia22
Жыл бұрын
The two showrunners have never even ran a show before and they got handed the most expensive one ever made. Whoever thought that was a good idea should be fired.
I laughed too much at the "Obviously being Gandalf is tight!"
@bad-people6510
9 ай бұрын
Sauron was equally obvious. And the show was very dependent on every single viewer not having figured it out immediately.
@Paulafan5
8 ай бұрын
I actually think that isn't Gandalf. it's a misdirect. It's either Saruman or one of the Blue Wizards. It's going to be a twist upon a twist.. that no one will care about.
@TheMedievalNerd
8 ай бұрын
@@Paulafan5 Considering how virtually every plot in the story up to now were all ham-fisted to some degree. I wouldn't put money on expecting that character to be someone other than Gandalf. Some people probably thought that Halbrand wasn't Sauron. I don't think that show should be watched expecting any kind of 'deep mystery'.
@samkornrumph8545
7 ай бұрын
I didn’t even watch past the second episode and I figured out he’s Gandalf. They also changed his backstory because… Hobbits I guess. He wasn’t some space hobo when he arrived in Middle Earth.
Usually, it takes Ryan to point out all the oddities, improbabilities, unscientific happenings, and illogical behavior of characters in the movies/TV shows. But with The Rings of Power... I kinda had most of the points covered during and after watching the series. In fact, identifying flaws was super easy... barely an inconvenience.
@TheGameBroswithSirhcandAr0n
4 ай бұрын
Referencing catchphrases is TIGHT!
I love the clever passive agressive ways he calls out how much shows/movies suck. He’s great at pointing out how little effort they put into it, and how little they care about the audience or source material.
@Aredel
Жыл бұрын
It makes it even funnier in the videos when he blatantly calls out how terrible a movie is.
@its_dey_mate
Жыл бұрын
@@NoBody-pw3kf What?
@Fuck_handles
Жыл бұрын
@@its_dey_mate I think he means something like the she hulk pitch meating, producer guy said hulk has been through more bad stuff than she-hulk and writer guy said he's on a list now.
@BT-su1yf
Жыл бұрын
@@its_dey_mate that was what Amazon and the media were trying to spin: that literally ALL of the criticism of Rings of Power was just racists and misogynists who were upset about the representation in the show. Of course, it’s a bullsh*t claim.
@DTAmaine
Жыл бұрын
❤️
This pitch meeting is likely waaay more concise and logical then the one that actually occurred.
@edisontrent618
Жыл бұрын
I don't know, the money laundering and social propaganda seemed to work pretty well. Hollywood mission accomplished.
@Skeptic_Tank
Жыл бұрын
than*
@phealtalk
Жыл бұрын
the real pitch meeting was "lets kathleen kennedy the shit out of lotr. want to?"
@jonnnnniej
Жыл бұрын
The Tolkien Estate actually turned down several ideas from Netflix and Disney iirc
@edisontrent618
Жыл бұрын
@@jonnnnniej Wasn't that before Tolkien died? Or perhaps it was afterwards and they were bargaining for more $$$. It certainly wasn't a quality issue, given what was made.
It’s sad that the writers and producers didn’t realize they had a GOLDMINE. They treated LOTR like some soap opera.
@luthasunspell8365
10 ай бұрын
Not true. Soap operas have at least one likable female and this had none. 😉
@The_Mimewar
10 ай бұрын
@@luthasunspell8365 ouch. But true
@Paulafan5
8 ай бұрын
They thought it was Game of Thrones and not Lord of the Rings. I think they were making a pg13 GoT type show and forgot that's not LOTR at all.
@Droid6689
7 ай бұрын
You are mistaken. The writers and producers knew they had a goldmine. This is their best. Modern writers are exceedingly incompetent.
@AmazingThor
2 ай бұрын
They paid a goldmine just to get the rights
It's been over a year since the series premiered, and it still feels like a fresh wound.
@vyntarus9618
5 ай бұрын
Maybe it's a wound that can only be healed with elvish medicine.
@Novastar.SaberCombat
3 ай бұрын
They should've titled it "Rings of Flour". Because the so-called writers on that delirious dumpster fire were as dense as day-old donuts.
It pains me that Ryan had to watch the entire season in order to make this video. Such a champion!
@MrDavidhastwo
Жыл бұрын
Well I mean he got paid to do it. I watched it for free like an idiot. Now I feel ripped off.
@coreyw5981
Жыл бұрын
Ugh i did! I just kept on watching hoping something cool would finally happen... And it it just never did.....
@LucianDevine
Жыл бұрын
@@coreyw5981 It ended. Does that count?
@Adrak-Hiano
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't..
@coreyw5981
Жыл бұрын
@@LucianDevine haha i guess you're right
As a Tolkien fan, I loved this so much. Galadriel just bumping into Sauron in the middle of the ocean, "obviously being Gandalf is TIGHT." That last one sent me.
@miriamweller812
Жыл бұрын
Just being Gandalf is pretty tight, though. Being it obviously is tighty tight.
@bigblakboiii
Жыл бұрын
Big Tolkien fan are you? Did you also hate the original trilogy as much as Tolkien would’ve?
@HackTeorico
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that Sauron getting in her way was not an accident.
@colingreen5553
Жыл бұрын
@@bigblakboiii What’s your point?
@sindri1447
Жыл бұрын
@@bigblakboiii the original trilogy was a good adaptation that had the utmost respect for the source material. The changes made were mostly necessary for a cinematic adaptation. Tolkien's work is so insanely detailed and encyclopedic in nature that no film should ever try to 100% follow it as a a script. Books and TV are far from being similar story telling devices. You can't just do a 1:1 mirroring of the two. It doesn't work like that. That being said, the show does not respect the source material at all. It seems to utterly despise it. Changing everything on a whim because it suits their modern sensibilities. They don't want to depict Tolkien's world. They want to create their own while taking advantage of Tolkien's good name. They want to easily ride on the coattails of a long gone literary legend.
Ryan actually seems mad here, usually he isn’t so up front about calling things dumb.
I consider myself a decent writer and I cannot begin to express how frustrating it is to exist in this time of terrible writers being given amazing opportunities that they didn't earn.
@Mrlonefighter
Жыл бұрын
Amazon had 1 billion dollars, and it feels like they spent like 1 dollar 50 cents on the script. And gave it to a drunk homeless guy, who can't read nor write. But hey, we get another season though, maybe they fix some of the problems
@wumpusrat
Жыл бұрын
@@Mrlonefighter The vast majority of the money for the show went to buying positive press and positive reviews. The script feels like something written by an AI, the costumes were terrible (3d-printed armor, cloth with armor patterns just printed on them -- and in some cases NOT printed on them in parts, looking even sloppier), terrible acting, almost no extras... It was a godawful mess.
@ivancavar3037
Жыл бұрын
And you can also call yourself naive for believing that the incompetence that dominates this planet is not by design.
@samblack5313
Жыл бұрын
You need to update your activist resume, go trans, and pledge your loyalty to critical race theory.
@vincelupo8419
Жыл бұрын
@@samblack5313 What would I need to do to impress you then? Buy 3 guns, burn accurate history books, vote for a corrupt businessman, shrug about school shootings, vote yes for genital inspection of kids in high school sports? See? Stereotypes and binary politics are bullshit.
You can really feel the anger from Ryan in this one
@raiden1766
Жыл бұрын
The sarcastic semi-anger when producer guy talked about pyroclastic flow was 👌
@jimh472
Жыл бұрын
This clown show besmirches an IP that spans generations and practically DEFINED the fantasy genre. So yeah, anger is warranted.
@jimgray3346
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're just projecting
@parmenides2576
Жыл бұрын
@@jimgray3346 shut up nerd
@Laucron
Жыл бұрын
@@jimgray3346 sounds like you're just dense
When the pitch meeting is 1000x better than the actual show 😂😂😂
@Guderian2
Жыл бұрын
Well i mean Pitch Meetings are always 1 10/10 so, it will always be better xD
@4879daniel
Жыл бұрын
It convinced me not to bother with the show. Sounds very dull.
@thedeepfriar745
Жыл бұрын
@@4879daniel no joke the show is straight up fucking stupid
@divedweller4295
Жыл бұрын
Oi! Any increase over zero is infinity times.
@johndoe8785
Жыл бұрын
@@4879daniel It shouldn't be attributed to anything Tolkien wrote, that's for sure.
The entire show and everyone involved in it should be cast into Mount Doom.
@hypothalapotamus5293
5 ай бұрын
The problem is that they were, but everyone survived... Somehow...
Another great take. I have no intention of putting myself through watching the Rings of Power TV series, but now I know the “story.” I continue to be amazed at how the studio execs put no value on a good story, characters, or writing and are willing to dump endless money on brainless projects that have none of them.
“People can’t know I can’t see… So I’m gonna cover up my eyes!!” Brilliant 😅
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
That was really her reasoning for that blindfold? Wow. Guess why it's called "blind"fold... This show...
@Lucifronz
Жыл бұрын
@@kaltaron1284 Technically she sits up straight and looks forward while having one of her soldiers, a semi-important character, guide her so she can continue to pretend she can see... ...but like ten minutes and two scenes later she's not even pretending she isn't blind anymore and it doesn't seem to be making a lick of difference to anyone.
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
@@Lucifronz Great, so the show makes a point and immidiately forgets it. Like with the rock crushing contest. Or not being allowed to leave the palace. Or....
@gokaury
Жыл бұрын
That sort of thing works with sunglasses, but not a huge red bandana wrapped around your eyes. But at least the showrunners knew that sunglasses didn't exist then.
One of the few decisions I have made in this life that I do not regret was skipping the show and watching Ryan's Pitch Meeting instead.
@airixxxx
Жыл бұрын
Same. I did unfortunately watch the first episode, it was bad on levels I couldn't believe posible.
@tylerhonaker2544
Жыл бұрын
Same.
@SilentSpeak
Жыл бұрын
I watched each and every episode in pure blissful awe at hoe royally awfully someone can screw up a legendary property while having access to the biggest budget ever lol.
@BearFattfilm
Жыл бұрын
Same.
@danielrafferty4108
Жыл бұрын
@@airixxxx Yeah, I had to watch the first episode in two stints. Went back to the second part half convincing myself I was being too harsh. Didn't bother with the rest.
I'm surprised studios are not hiring Ryan to listen to their pitches. The quality of Hollywood product would go up substantially if they did.
@CorePathway
8 ай бұрын
They would have no shows to make.
@Novastar.SaberCombat
3 ай бұрын
Wealthy narcissists NEVER listen to "the peasants". That's why we even have legends like Eyegurr, KK, Bezoz, and that wacky fool who wrote "Robbynnn in Da Hoõd" or whatever it was. I think he called himself "The Director", and that tells ya everything you need to know. 🙄
At a fraction of a fraction of the budget this by far more enjoyable than the actual show.
The prononciation of Galadriel, Numenor and Morgoth was so funny I wished you continued 😂
@godbluffvdgg
Жыл бұрын
:)..Me too, I wrote a comment wishing he had leaned into it...I was chuckling thinking of him doing the names every time, differently...
@ThomeTeque
Жыл бұрын
And now Namorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@dada13771
Жыл бұрын
Then he mispronounces Celebrimbor
@commandercaptain4664
Жыл бұрын
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE.
@murlocknight1427
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Celebrimbor actually hurt.
The casual "Hey shut up" when pointing out something is just too good! And I gotta say that surviving a pyroclastic flow is pretty impressive, especially if it burns your eyes but NOT your hair.
@vsegda723
Жыл бұрын
Her eyes not liquefying from the heat is even more impressive
@applejuices
Жыл бұрын
@@hungryhippo6259 "because the show, for all its rough spots, is pretty darn good" Ya serious? 🤣 "Miriel's eyes were not burned by the pyroclastic flow, that happened in the next episode." Okay, that's even more stupid though. Overall I think if you kind of enjoyed the show, that's fine, but if you actually think the show is 'pretty darn good' you need mental help.
@applejuices
Жыл бұрын
@@hungryhippo6259 I'm on my phone right now, so I'm not gonna write an essay. I did not want this to become an argument, i was just stating the truth. When I have the time, i will explain in more detail why it sucks ass, objectively. No, me saying you are in a bad mental spot is not proving the show is good. It's just that you cannot like the show when you're in a good state of mind and not fucked in the head. More on that later.
@bryandyke2037
Жыл бұрын
" I mean, how does she know she's blind forever? A lot of things can make you blind temporarily, including staring into bright lights" "Nope, she's blind forever" "but why? Seems like a stretch " "Look, I'm going to need you to get the hell off my back she's blind forever and she knows it."
@booshmcfadden7638
Жыл бұрын
@@hungryhippo6259 Whoa. You claim people aren't paying attention and then say Sam and Frodo survived Mt. Doom exploding. Maybe you should rewatch, because SAM AND FRODO DIDN'T GET HIT IN THE FACE WITH 2,000 DEGREES OF HOT FIRE AND ASH MOVING AT 200 MPH. Jesus! You crazies and your strawmen. This video points out just a few dozen inconsistencies and ridiculous things that absolutely 100% happen in this show, and you brush off this as people not paying attention because it doesn't fit your false narrative. Miriel went blind directly after the blast, that's in the show, that's what they showed us, that's how it happened, it's linear, I've watched it. Your reasoning for calling Martin a liar is that the writers retconned their own show in the next episode, so the previous episode just...doesn't count anymore, or something. I don't know, you make about as much sense as the awful writers. Why are you making excuses for them? The scene structure is garbage, the dialog is garbage, the characters are garbage, the writing is garbage, the editing is garbage. This is one of several scenes where the writers either forgot what just happened or didn't care and there's no cohesivity to the barebones idea that this trash claims is a plot.
I wish we could get a pitch meeting for every episode. But I know that would condemn Ryan to watch them all. 😢
What's even more amazing is how fast I forgot about that show.
How many spots in this video he basically could insert 'barely a inconvenience'... yet has to constantly stop himself is mind blowing. Literally right out of the gates with the ice troll.
@fumomofumosarum5893
Жыл бұрын
For this show's Galadriel, everything is super easy and barely an inconvenience. Like leaving a prison cell. Because she's a woman.
@EbonMaster
Жыл бұрын
@@fumomofumosarum5893 as someone who loves badass female characters its irritating how often they drop the ball on making them badass but not basically invincible/flawless (INB4 "what do yo mean? Her flaw is that she's hot headed!").
@nowhereman6360
Жыл бұрын
Discount Legolas killed an Orc with a stick and fought hand to hand with a tank like orc...
@Razor_Crest
Жыл бұрын
@@EbonMaster Powerfull female characters shouldn’t be overly powerful. Otherwise it makes them feel proud, not courageous. Same is true of men. This is part of the reason why I loved The Batman. Right out of of the gate, he’s taking shots at him, depressed, and exhausted. Yet he continues on because he knows it’s the right thing to do. Hollywood shouldn’t treat female characters any differently.
@randomhuman97
Жыл бұрын
Haven't watched lord of the rings. Dint care to
-She is like " i dont wanna people to know that im blind."So she puts a big red cloth over her eyes -Smooth move yeah, that will do it. Best line ever
@scratthesquirrel5242
Жыл бұрын
i know when i see someone with a blindfold on my first thought is "wow, that persons eyesight is so good they can see through it"🤣
I like how even the Producer Guy was getting frustrated just hearing the beginning of this pitch 😂
Perfectly executed, unlike the show itself! 👌🏻
@CorePathway
8 ай бұрын
If only we could execute the show itself.
He explained the ENTIRE plot of 8 hours of show in 6 mins. Speaks volumes 🤣
@thehikingcucumber3410
Жыл бұрын
And all the plot holes
@snuffclubstudio708
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@CPonSound
Жыл бұрын
LOTR: Magic ring bad, thrown in volcano. Just explained the ENTIRE plot of 12 hours of movies/1000+ page book in 6 words. Speaks volumes 🤣
@Temuldjin
Жыл бұрын
That's the neat part of having incompetent writers...
@Lunarcheese72
Жыл бұрын
@@CPonSound No young man, that is called a summary. Good try though. Gold Star 🌟 for you!
" *I AM GOOD* " A line so sweet, so divine, not even JRR Tolkien could dream of conjuring up on paper. 🤣😂
@CorePathway
Жыл бұрын
That’s what the writers have taped on their bathroom mirrors to bolster their sad little no-talent ego’s
@jackspicer455
Жыл бұрын
Hahaahah
@momon969
Жыл бұрын
Why not rewrite all of Tolkien's work in that style? ""We must face the long dark of Moria. Be on your guard. There are older and fouler things than Orcs, in the deep places of the world."" = "Hole bad, bad hole. Orcs bad too, but bad hole things more bad than bad orcs. Bad."
@brandencullinan8886
Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the only explanation ever given for Gandalf's coming back was, "Somehow, Gandalf returned!"
@OWnIshiiTrolling
Жыл бұрын
@@momon969 Nah, they should rewrite it as something that sounds wise, but is complete garbage if pondered for more than a few seconds. Something like "rocks sink because they look down, and ships float because they look up." Imagine if they actually put something like that in the series. Imagine an actual legal adult writing that in a script.
2:15 that cut was perfect
this was a $$$$ grab by both Amazon & the current runners of Tolkien Estate pure and simple... with no rights to The Unfinished Tales & The Silmarillion,this is basically VERY EXPENSIVE fan fiction!!! many thanks Ryan,you have provided a great service to all LOTR fans...
@thehoerscorral8565
5 ай бұрын
I wish more people realized this. The show was 100% a billion dollar money laundering run for almost everyone involved. Bezos probably signed off on it without reading a single script or talking to a single person actually involved in making it, so any real success would have been just a nice side effect that made their use of future seasons for more of the same a lot easier, but either way, plenty of people in the right places got their cut of that billion plus bezosbucks dumped into this mess. The fact that despite its abysmal numbers (after the first episode, when people realized what they were in for and abandoned ship) they greenlit additional seasons is all but proof of this. They'll keep churning this along despite nobody watching and letting Amazon get those great hollywood/twitter brownie points for being so diverse and inclusive, and just enough morons will cheer and clap (but then not actually watch the show because, oh right, it's BAAAD) that it's the perfect shield against scrutiny. After all you would have to be racist/sexist/ableist/fatphobic/(other ist and phobe) incels to attack a show with obese black woman as part of the cast!
Accurately described the plot of a whole season in 6mins and really didn't miss anything.
@davich_
Жыл бұрын
TBF some of the things he metaphorically shrugged off were actually explained in the series, and the fact he unironically mispronounced Celebrimbor leads me to assume he didn't actually watch the series but rather read reviews and plot synopses. The show isn't as bad as people are trying to make it out to be.
@gm9460
Жыл бұрын
@@davich_ no they weren’t. Not really. And you can’t take a joke can you? The point is that the writers could easily have made that pronunciation mistake in their pitch. It’s actually a very subtle burn on their level of lore knowledge and care about the lore (almost zero)
@mynamegothit3825
Жыл бұрын
The show was terrible ..... The dialogue was all rubbish it was so cringe 80% of it was them trying to sound soo deep..... A few major problems with the show Galdrial jumping into the ocean.... the distance she would need to swim is tremendous and she even says in the show when there saved and shes talking to queen regent "saved us from CERTAIN death" She took a volcanic eruption from MOUNT DOOM to the face and remember it forged the 1 ring ..... id like to point out why its ridiculous .... all i need say is ... Pompeii She spent so long hunting sauron searching for a symbol and what it meant....then she somehow realized that its literally a map location.... Also to add to this why the hell does her brother have it stamped all over him?????? If i murdered someone im not gonna draw my place of origin in the flesh... Theres so very much more to say but i cant give enough of a crap to even type it as this show is a massive train reck
@rhysproudmourne1646
Жыл бұрын
I just wish he talked about the pointless architect sister or the herbalist lady being an orc slayer for no reason. Both characters that were pointless and would’ve loved mocked. Oh well, perfect summary either way.
@benjaminjane93
Жыл бұрын
@@davich_ Jesus christ. Grow up.
"So what do ya think?" "Well I think... its... its a recognisable brand name!" 😂😂 love it
@criticallythinking0
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that basically the formula for all movie and tv shows now? Take franchise insert politically correct dialogue at the expensive of quality ruin franchise alienate fan base then blame said fan base.
@samcochran8203
Жыл бұрын
@@criticallythinking0 yep, as critical drinker would say, it's been updated for "modern audiences" and now its just spouts things that are all about "THE MESSAGE"
@samcochran8203
Жыл бұрын
@@zogwort1522 I've tried to understand how your comment relates to mine, I really tried, but what on earth does that have to do with my comment? Why would my comment insinuate that the south shouldn't be a bunch of prejudiced guys in white hoofs, and instead be like north Africa? How did you even arrive at that?
@samcochran8203
Жыл бұрын
@@zogwort1522 no, I was asking if my comment was insinuating anything I never said orcs need to be black, that's an insult only someone of your caliber would think to say The shit I'm talking about, in particular, the men of Middle earth, supposed to be Nordic or Slavic or Scandinavian or northern european based men who skin tone reflects it, and whos time reflects it as its before any sort of time where equatorally inclined skin types travel to all corners of the earth, and a time where your skin type generally indicates that your people have been here for thousands of years not moving around, and where everyone have a specific skin type for a certain latitude of the globe, basically what I'm saying here, the men of middle earth are pale skinned, and the men of harard, far harard, the Easterlings, the corsair men of umbar, they are not from middle earth, therefore they have an excuse as to why they dont have pale skin. Then you have the men of numenor, practically the palest men in the history of Middle earth, and the queen of the royal family, who's line decends from the palest of pale skins, the elves themselves, and the queen who was canonically described in the books with a fair, white, pale skin, in the show, is black. Speaking of elves, the dwarves and elves in the show, who in the books as Tolkien wrote in their origin stories being as immune to change and the elements, and to all illnesses as well, (remember, the reason why the elves were fading in middle earth as the world changed around them, and why the dwarves were isolating themselves and being forgotten as they return to the rocks they were molded from) ergo they're immune to things like uv rays and sunlight, ergo no need to ever naturally develop things like adaptations or evolutionary changes to counteract the excess rays and overabundance of vitamin D, ergo, NO BLACK ELVES OR DWARVES, especially when dwarves live, underground! That's just a taste of the cardinal sins this show undertook, both in regards to the lore, logic, common sense, and the writing, ugh, don't get ne started on the fucking writing. Meteor man: "I am good", top tier writing there folks (like hell it is). Or wait wait wait, how about galadriel finding out sauron is halbrand, knowing celebrimbor made the rings with his guidance, knowing the evil and power sauron is capable of, yet not saying a damn thing to the other elves about how they probably shouldn't be using the rings after she finds out. I rest my fucking case
@samcochran8203
Жыл бұрын
@@zogwort1522 nah, I hadn't, sorry, no sleep tends to get me not getting things sometimes, also this is like the third time this week but over a period of a few days where someone's tried telling me how rings of power wasn't woke
Just finished reading the Silmarillion, and now decided to watch this pitch meeting to know roughly how the show shapes up. Seems it doesn't!
I understand that the show would have to compress events and combine them (since they take place over thousands of years in the Second Age) but did they really have to disregard 98% of the lore? They even mess up the forging of the Rings of Power. That's what the show is called and they can't even get that right.
Rings of Power, definitely one of the shows ever made.
@ivanhenderson31
Жыл бұрын
And it shall go down in... ....the FuCkInG gutter!☺
@Gredddfe
Жыл бұрын
I can definitely confirm my feelings for it.
@thibautisserant
Жыл бұрын
I mean, we still have to wait for that moment in Season 2 where Galadriel goes "It's ringing time !" Hopefully that doesn't get cut.
@PhenixRyze
Жыл бұрын
Of all the shows that ever were, this is one of them
@amellirizarry9503
Жыл бұрын
it was dogshit
it never ceases to amaze me how Ryan is able to insert "hey shut up" and continue talking like nothing ever happened
@dawnfire82
Жыл бұрын
I like the recently added, "Oh thank God."
"He's from the matrix movies!" laughed so hard at that
I remember first hearing about Amazon making a second age Middle-Earth TV series and being so pumped....and then they came out with this steaming pile 😢
Realizing that the show you vowed never to watch is even worse than you thought it would be is tight!
@mikejunior211
Жыл бұрын
Amazon: Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
@terrypankhurst7601
Жыл бұрын
I thought the same while watching this lol
@darthrevan4376
Жыл бұрын
To be fair this pitch meeting gives a nice spin on it, the reality of it is way more nonsensical
@xdevantx5870
Жыл бұрын
I mean it was OK, better than the Hobbit movies. But there were definitely some serious obvious flaws with it.
@samcochran8203
Жыл бұрын
@@xdevantx5870 Better than the hobbit movies... *_Insert J Jonah Jameson laughing meme_* *YOU SERIOUS* ?
Not sure what I find more surprising; that Ryan was able to attain the actual security cam footage of this very much real meeting taking place at Amazon Studios OR; that their security cameras are aligned in an identical manner as the pitch meeting KZread show
@LittleGoblinBastard
Жыл бұрын
Cameras convenitently placed in the correct angles are TIGHT
@joyamos29
Жыл бұрын
Its definitely the latter. No doubt.
@ODUBlue
Жыл бұрын
Wowowow. Wow.
Amazon exec: So your telling me the protagonist who just jumped off a ship on a whim while in the middle of the ocean, just so happens to bump into the one guy she’s looking to kill? Writer: Yep!! Amazon exec:…. Brilliant! Six seasons and movie!
Númenor as New Manure in the subtitles, priceless!
I love how even the producer was dumbfounded at how ridiculous some of the things in actual series were.
@booshmcfadden7638
Жыл бұрын
"lol, haha, no really, what happens? Oh my God, you're serious." Pretty much every scene in the show.
@sethstor
Жыл бұрын
Obviously being Gandalf is tight
@Jamsaladd
Жыл бұрын
This your first pitch meeting ?
One does not simply walk into a Pitch Meeting. Its glass gates are guarded by more than just logos. There is wry humor there that does not sleep. And the great Ryan is ever watchful.
@masbox5830
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣Well done Boromir
@nathanieldiaz2845
Жыл бұрын
LMFAO!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Greendalewitch
Жыл бұрын
"I wish there were more Pitch Meetings. I wish Ryan could cover every movie and show I love and hate" "So do all that live to see such times but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the Pitch Meetings that are given to us"
This pitch meeting had more quality than the actual show
"Is she planning to swim back to Middle-Earth?" was essentially my reaction when she jumped off the ship.
@partyboi8773
Жыл бұрын
This. And to all the half-wits saying "But elves are superhuman! She could totally do it!"-- the Kinslaying in the Silmarillion took place when one host of elves murdered others to get their ships, in order to cross the ocean to Middle-Earth. Others, including Galadriel, faced extreme hardship and death crossing the icy wastelands of the far north instead, to make the trek. If only someone had just suggested a leisurely ocean-wide swim instead!
@merrittanimation7721
Жыл бұрын
@@partyboi8773I’m just imagining the entire host of the Noldor doing a backstroke to Middle Earth as Morgoth stares in confusion from afar.
I really do not understand how anybody can get past the second episode without falling asleep or getting distracted by a spec of dust in the air.
@famedlettuce3497
Жыл бұрын
I know! And the plot was so predictable. I only watched the first three episodes, good to see I didn’t miss much
@pocosdailymoviememes1257
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I got distracted in the 1st episode there were too many plot lines and characters imo
@nhmooytis7058
Жыл бұрын
I just switched to watching my toenails grow.
@a.b.2405
Жыл бұрын
@@nhmooytis7058 literally! 😭🤣
@nhmooytis7058
Жыл бұрын
@@a.b.2405 I have very fast growing toenails.
"Omg you're serious" sums up what the writing of this series is.
@andrewfrankovic6821
Жыл бұрын
Did you actually win something? KZread points? I hear they're redeemable on Amazon prime video.
Thank you, this is a great summary of the stupidity and art destruction we had to endure.
Think I’ve managed to binge watch everyone of these now. They are amazing, comedic timing is a hard thing to master so being able to cut and paste it in during editing like this is truly exceptional.
That pitch meeting was SO much better than the actual show.
@vipr1142
Жыл бұрын
Hah it really was. Actually better written than the series lol
@jamesknapp64
Жыл бұрын
If hes telling the truth of what happens in the show, good God its got to be horrible
@sgtGiggsy
Жыл бұрын
To be factual, about 90% of Pitch Meetings are better than the shows/movies they are about.
@pmason6076
11 ай бұрын
A lot more thought went into the writing for sure!
@DarrellTurnerJr
11 ай бұрын
@@jamesknapp64he speaks truth
One of the most ruthless Pitch Meetings, and deservedly so. Thanks, Ryan!
@conniethesconnie
Жыл бұрын
Was half expecting the pitch dude to make a response about the writing along the lines of "It's being produced by Amazon so it has to be bad enough to make Wheel of Time look good.
@kjellbjrnasmo480
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonykaitis 🤦♂️
@NymbusCumulo928
Жыл бұрын
@@anthonykaitis I do hate random token characters thrown into the trailer for marketing purposes, while having no actual impact on the story itself. Also helps when they're ugly and unlikable, such as the dwarf queen who . . . doesnt have a beard for some reason.
@snichelsticks8653
Жыл бұрын
@@NymbusCumulo928 yeah she would be great if THEY ACTUALLY LISTENED TO THE LORE
@saar144
Жыл бұрын
And that was even without mentioning the cringiest moments of “ship floats, stone sinks”, “you’ve not seen what I have seen”, “give me the meat and give it to me raw”, and more
I didn't plan on watching this show, and I'm glad this little sketch helped solidify my resolve.
The way he derailed the conversation and gave pause after asking if he heard right, that galadriel just happens to run into sauron in the ocean😂
A 2 hour long version of this pitch meeting I would have gladly watched all the way through
@yisroel6
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to disappoint, but there isn't much more story to include. He covered just about everything from the 8+ hours into 6 minutes.
@Aerogrow
Жыл бұрын
@@yisroel6 lol.... basically.
@Mitch19222
Жыл бұрын
Watch Thelittleplatoon's review
@doinkindonut
Жыл бұрын
@@Mitch19222 Hahah yea, I watched it all xD was good stuff
3:20 "My brain is basically mush at this point" Is basically the only excuse left for the atrocity that was this show
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
But his was mush AFTER writing all those speeches. The real writers had mush for brains right from the very start.
I would love to see a pie-chart breakdown of what they spent $462 million dollars on. Because I sure didn't see that value.
@hypothalapotamus5293
5 ай бұрын
I've looked at price estimates and it's roughly 3x the cost of HOTD per episode if the cost of the franchise rights aren't included. This is not surprising. From a project management perspective, HOTD kept a limited set of locations for each episode (including real castles with natural lighting, which they screwed up a bit due to time constraints), limited use of CGI, and remained very character oriented. ROP had to fall back on big CGI shots like the montage of the wars of the Noldor, fantastical cityscapes, and immitating dragon age rather than Tolkien for dwarven civilization (they also stole the non-functional rigging of the numenorean ships from dragon age). It wasn't impactful because the people doing it were incompetent, but you can tell that they were throwing money at it.
My favorite pitch meeting line is : `and then Batman adopts Robin despite the fact that Robin is quite obviously a fully grown adult.`
Watching Pitch Meetings for shows I'll never even care enough to even consider bothering watching, to the point these videos are actually the very first time in my life I've ever even seen their titles, is TIGHT!
@chasehedges6775
Жыл бұрын
Super Easy, hardly an inconvenience.
@recitationtohear
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@ninjanibba4259
Жыл бұрын
@@chasehedges6775 barely man, barely come onnn
@jeremybartlett1706
Жыл бұрын
@@EventualWarlord haha, I've not heard of this show, but let me say this: you were right...violence was right all along...
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
@@EventualWarlord Whoever said that to you is someone who's oppinion I wouldn't give anything about.
In RoP, Galadriel found out about Sauron and THEN she had Celebrimbor and Elrond finish the rings, knowing completely that it was Sauron's idea to make them into rings the whole time. Like... why wouldn't she just say "hey, the guy I've been chasing thousands of years is the same guy who helped make these rings and is totally up to something" or just give them a heads-up...
@GeraltofRivia22
Жыл бұрын
The shows excuse is that this would somehow mean Galadriel conspired with Sauron and thus she can't tell the other for fear of the consequences. That makes no sense though, because they didn't see through his disguise either.
@GarageQueen
Жыл бұрын
"Like... why wouldn't she just say "hey, the guy I've been chasing thousands of years is the same guy who helped make these rings and is totally up to something" or just give them a heads-up..." "So that the show can happen!" "Works for me!"
@Darhhaall
Жыл бұрын
This is not that bad - three elven rings are not corrupted by Sauron, I mean in the books, and they are pretty powerful an important for them. Other rings Sauron made later were the problem.
@TheSmokingSkull
Жыл бұрын
@@GarageQueen Lol, even from that standpoint of "well obviously characters have to make stupid decisions so the show can happen", you can still tell a good story and not have every character act like a moron. The Galadriel of RoP hates Sauron SO much that there is absolutely no way she wouldn't tell the others about his involvement with the rings. I mean, she refused Sauron's offer but still let his plan come to fruition. It basically makes Galadriel out to be massively hypocritical and trying to grab power for herself, which would actually be an interesting plot point of season 2 IF they went that way, but the showrunners seem completely invested in excusing everything Galadriel does/says in season 1. I mean, she literally threatens to torture prisoners of war, kill and depose rulers, threatens to shank officials in back alleys, threatens her own soldiers, etc etc. The only way the show can redeem her is if she actually stops her genocidal quest of killing every single Orc/Uruk and admitting she was wrong, but that would include putting up her sword and actually becoming like, well, Galadriel from LotR (we still haven'tseen a single use of magic from RoP Galadriel), who is more of a pacifist, and I highly doubt the showrumners would *ever* do that.
@TheSmokingSkull
Жыл бұрын
@@Darhhaall The issue is, the other rings, rings for the Dwarves and Men, were made FIRST (with some assistance from Sauron) and afterwards, the rings for the Elves were made. In the original lore *and* movies, the Elves made their rings without Sauron, but used his techniques, so the rings still had the secret backdoor Sauron had in them so the One Ring could influence them. It's like the showrumners just watched the opening of Fellowship and thought "oh, the rings for the elves were made first, then dwarves, then men, and Sauron personally helped make all of them!", and went from there.
Hobbits used to be so wholesome and traditional.
I wanna see a full version of this pitch meeting where Ryan pronounces every name of every character or place like that: Galadrriæl, Noomenourrrrr, Morrrrgoth, Saourron It’s my favorite part of this pitch meeting 😂
"Anyway, the elves need this stuff, or they are going to die" "Why" "Cause they'll die if they don't get it" That basically summarises it perfectly. The entire plot point is based on the elves being about to die. Why? Because they are, there is no reason for it, don't think about it too much. It is necessary for the plot.
@mkvv5687
Жыл бұрын
It's the MacGuffin of the show.
@gokaury
Жыл бұрын
@@mkvv5687 no, it's the JJ Abrams style "mystery box" that will quite literally never be solved.
@diegorodriguez2808
Жыл бұрын
To be fair that plot problem did not begin at Rings of Power, regardless it is a plot problem.
@timsaylor4390
Жыл бұрын
@@diegorodriguez2808 The worst part is that it is partially the canon reason the elves forged the rings but the writers are too stupid to explain it.
@diegorodriguez2808
Жыл бұрын
@@timsaylor4390 Absolutely granted, they're off by the long shot, I don't disregard however the potential entirely. The plot has some major holes, and the dialogue is off in multiple areas, however there was some good in it and it was by far the most aesthetically stunning shows this past year. It certainly derives from many Tolkien points and scenes, but need we forget that Jackson did too, and that the Lord of the Rings was a lot better laid out than Silmarillion? Not saying it wasn't bad in a lot of areas, but to hate it I'd say is overkill.
I love how the makers of this show invested a billion bucks so this Pitch Meeting could happen. I am really thankful.
@turdfurgeson1643
Жыл бұрын
It was worth it. Good deal actually.
When watching the spoof of the pitch is better than the pitched thing ... Priceless!!!
@MaiAolei
7 ай бұрын
For everything else we have MasterCard!
One of my favorite gags is when screenwriter thinks he has an amazing twist like the tall guy being Gandalf, but producer guy says it isn't a good twist.
Boy, the thing that bugs me the most about the script was the “Sauron lives because of you” Line, like were they implying that Sauron could have just died in a shipwreck??
@tuomaspirinen8018
Жыл бұрын
It seems so. An immortal Maiar spirit that was part of the creation of the entire universe, with all its stars, galaxies and planets, was gonna drown at sea, despite having the power to take physical shape again whenever the previous vessel was destroyed. But hey, that is just some junk some old guy named Tolkien wrote. Who cares about that old old coot?
@kaltaron1284
Жыл бұрын
Singling out the most stupid line in this show is certainly not super easy.
@grogdizzy5814
Жыл бұрын
How did you manage to sit through the whole thing?
@louislux
Жыл бұрын
@@grogdizzy5814 skipping all the inspirational speeches is a good start.
@Largueirus
Жыл бұрын
Well no, it's talking about when she took a wounded Halbrand to Eregion to be healed.
This pitch meeting cost Ryan $35 to make, and it's way more entertaining than the Rings of Power show.
@college54114
9 ай бұрын
It cost him $35?
@SithLord2066
9 ай бұрын
@@college54114 yeah he had to take time out of his regular day job to make this video for 2 hours, and he makes $17.50 an hour as a shift manager at Cinnabon.
@themarsh429
8 ай бұрын
Pretty sure you can't produce something this good for under $35,000,000.
@twistedsisterx7754
7 ай бұрын
It was more profitable then the $1B waste that will never get out of the red.
I now know more about this series than I ever wanted to
The only reason that the Gandalf reveal was a major twist was because there were a thousand reasons it absolutely should not have been Gandalf, not the least of which being that he cannonocally doesn't show up until about a thousand years after the last allience of elves and men when Sauron gets his finger cut off.
@Cityweaver
14 күн бұрын
This deserves a thousand votes. Honestly, what the hell. Gandalf showing up before the actual corruption of Men and Dwarves is like the police showing up at your door the day you move into a neighborhood because you look like you might cause a noise complaint. I hate writers who are allergic to cause and effect. They literally are proud of themselves for shoehorning in "because destiny said so!" Same thing with Mordor. How was Mordor created? From centuries of industrial misuse of the land? Or one volcanic boi? Why show the land decaying for a reason when you can just make it Mordor instantly because it will become Mordor, therefore it is Mordor.