"We are trying to make the novel that Tolkien never wrote." They aint lying. Tolkien would never write this stupid novel.

@matiasluukkanen7718

Жыл бұрын

They also managed to make a show Tolkien would never watch.

@achillesalister3786

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing!

@jeffzeiler346

Жыл бұрын

It seems they've achieved the lowest interpretation of their goal. A high financial cost for their low expectations. Have the show writers ever worked before? And, will they ever work again after this travesty?

@nova_supreme8390

Жыл бұрын

It so bad Tolkien would rise from the dead just to unwrite it.

@NovRen19

Жыл бұрын

Amen and we say EXSURGE TOLKIEN COUNTER RINGS OF POWER HERESY, join us any time.

My favorite part of Rings of Power is the part where Jeff Bezos lost a billion dollar

@arwenstrong2818

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. That makes pain easier to bear lol

@frankb3347

Жыл бұрын

@teacherfromthejungles6671

Жыл бұрын

lost a billion, made another ten

@Yayofangamer16

Жыл бұрын

@@teacherfromthejungles6671 Cope

@konstantins8798

Жыл бұрын

Sadly plenty more from whence it came from

When I did philosophy 101 at university, one of the most intriguing questions we looked at was “Can you hurt someone after they’re dead?”. Thanks to the writers of this show that question is now answered beyond a shadow of a doubt. Yes. Yes you can.

@willrunels5148

Жыл бұрын

Amazing

@joeterzio7175

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he shouldn't have written a fantasy novel with so many open plot-holes and based it on a frigging flat Earth, then.

@reek4062

Жыл бұрын

I don't think Tolkien would care aboot the show. I assume his family is happy with the 250 million.

@petriew2018

Жыл бұрын

@@reek4062 more proof you don't, in fact, think....

@michaelhart7569

Жыл бұрын

​@@petriew2018 Yes. I think the original Philosophy 101 question was a good one.

The whole mithril to help the Elves stay immortal is just next level vile to me

@ziephel-6780

Жыл бұрын

I thought it was just an exaggeration, but it isn't. Isn't Mithrir supposed to be rare? The only piece of item that's made of Mithrir is that chainmail. Yet the Elves still exist in the Third Age? Dafaq?

@workerdroid290

Жыл бұрын

Utter garbage. Lazy and infantile writing

@evantheilman2751

Жыл бұрын

@@ziephel-6780 It's just a strong, lightweight metal. Nothing more, nothing less. That strategic value apparently wasn't enough for the writers.

@ziephel-6780

Жыл бұрын

@@evantheilman2751 They made Elves into some sort of Mithril-battery robots. So stupid.

@cron1165

Жыл бұрын

@@ziephel-6780 Wait what??? I haven't heard about that and I haven't watched the show. Do they say that elves need mithril to be immortal?

I burst out laughing at Strong Woman’s way to kill an orc, like oh I stick them with the sharp end I had no idea but she seems to forget that they have this bad habit of wearing armour

@reallylionbastard

Жыл бұрын

Stick em with the point end

@Clint52279

Жыл бұрын

Uh... that's why you have to twist the blade?

@danieladiaphorist1308

Жыл бұрын

A nice nod to the ancient Flash Gordon series. "How do we escape?" "Through that door". "There is a legend that you can kill them by stabbing them in the heart". Priceless, riveting script writing indeed.

@wellhungindung

Жыл бұрын

I also laughed when she thrust her sword and it made a loud Shwing sound! Hilarious.

@darthXreven

Жыл бұрын

brutish armor is no match for the power of elven sharp ends.....lolz ugh

If Mithril recharges Elves' batteries, it's a good thing Gil-Gonad died before TLOTR, or Frodo would've had Elves hunting him as well as Nazgul, and Elblonde would've bushwhacked Frodo at Rivendell. Karadriel to Frodo: "Bugger thy ring, give me the battery you're wearing."

@pablito4762

Жыл бұрын

Frodo: "Wtf is going on? Why is everybody hunting me ?" 😂😂

@mikestanmore2614

Жыл бұрын

@@pablito4762 LOL

@theredheadwiththread1275

Жыл бұрын

I laughed harder than I probably should have at this.

@ilunnas

Жыл бұрын

Imagine a crowd of elves running and yelling :Please flash us Frodo Baggins!!!

@kamion53

Жыл бұрын

@@pablito4762 Karendriel: "because y're a woman, Frodo"

Imagine turning Galadriel into a "commander of the northern armies," only to have her be a dislikable, incompetent and emotionally-stunted child waving a sword around. I wouldn't follow Guyladriel into a back alley with the intent to rob her, let alone follow her into a battle.

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623

Жыл бұрын

You could probably easily rob her in that back alley. A small frail woman with no clue how to actually fight? No contest at all.

Man I got real Amber Heard vibes when Galadriel is saying, essentially: ‘Who’s going to believe I, a woman, used you when you have so much to gain’

@hansimuli

Жыл бұрын

So brave and so stunning 🤣🙃

@JoJo-vg8dz

Жыл бұрын

You're right. 😂

@maak6270

Жыл бұрын

They made Galadriel the allegory of Amber Heard 😁

@DerekPower

Жыл бұрын

"Now, excuse me, I must relieve myself" (walks and go to a bed)

@JoJo-vg8dz

Жыл бұрын

The "tempest in her" is probably what made her take a sh*t in her bed.

The men were gifted the island of Numenor by the Valar because of the incredible courage they showed in defeating the forces of Morgoth. The men of Numenor are extremely skilled craftsmen and great fighters who are so badass that even the Maiar, Elves were cautious of them. But here we have strong women Galadriel teaching these Numenoreans how to battle Orcs 😂😂😂 this show hates Tolkien and men in general

@halbarda

Жыл бұрын

Very true, Numenorians are space marinse of the Tolkien. This show is totally out of touch with Tolkien

@mimu3727

Жыл бұрын

maybe they wouldn't step all over it if Tolkien was a woman 💀 / this is sarcasm

@steve-oh4342

Жыл бұрын

@@mimu3727 no, because then they would have problem with Tolkein not being a non-binary, trans-species, vegan tree who only wears purple on wednesdays.

@FlyfishermanMike

Жыл бұрын

Where's their army and navy??

@RobinMcBeth

Жыл бұрын

Not just ANY way to fight orcs: Brilliantly by STABBING them! WITH THEIR SWORDS!!!

Remember the basics you learned about creative writing as a kid? This show's writers manage to break all of them.

@rubix4195

Жыл бұрын

Apparently they have "subverted our expectations" when any amateur writer would have told them this would never work and told activists to STFU because a narrative needs to be understandable to be relatable.

@asarishepard8171

Жыл бұрын

They were the ones back talking the teacher saying thry didn't need to learn this stuff.

@zenvariety9383

Жыл бұрын

They must watch Terrible Writing Advice and take his sarcasm literally.

@zxyatiywariii8

Жыл бұрын

They always want to "subvert expectations", but now, the only way they could do that, would be to write something good. We already EXPECT their writing to be bad.

@JoJo-vg8dz

Жыл бұрын

Amazon : What's your qualifications as a writer? "I'm a soy boy" Amazon : You're hired !

Galadriel is so self-centered, deceptive and effectively manipulative she could actually be Sauron

@deceiver444

Жыл бұрын

She's too impulsive but except that, she's got what it takes to be Sauron indeed

@chizzelfingers

4 ай бұрын

or aoc or Amy liberal. this series is a perfect example of liberalism. they can't create anything only hijack others good stuff and fk it up😂😂😂

Eye! Thanks for the shout-out, and indeed I rip that fight scene apart, Hope I didn't disappoint ^_^

@oduinn7948

Жыл бұрын

Toe.

They didn't just make the Hobbits evil, they made the Hobbits Hobbits of Color THEN made them evil. Because that's the representation everyone wanted, surely.

@mimu3727

Жыл бұрын

weird isn't it? bc I keep seeing ppl offended black ppl are represented as "bad guys" in media and entertainment. but then, *this* is okay, bc representation in fantasy world?¿

@aiureapriniarba7

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, hidden rasism 🤣🤣🤣 this is wild

@silverhost9782

Жыл бұрын

Then gave them awful Irish accents, just to piss them off too🤣 incredible stuff from Amazon

@persephonepersephone4414

Жыл бұрын

@@aiureapriniarba7 didn't a lot of the cast blockchain twitter followers of JSG and others? Right out in the open!

@persephonepersephone4414

Жыл бұрын

@@mimu3727 Imagine even offering the role and billing it as representation: "Hey, Lenny Henry, you'll be like Bilbo, but a Bilbo who leaves the little kid Hobbits to die in a bog instead of inviting your cool Wizard friend to entertain them." Lenny Henry:"But what happens if the other Hobbits befriend a Wizard?" Amazon: "Murder Harfoot Mode Initiated"

This show is pure meme gold

@jurgenparkour9337

Жыл бұрын

Best show ever🤣🤣🤣🤣

@royalnovember66

Жыл бұрын

And memers dont even need to photoshop, lol

@towelman8589

Жыл бұрын

I've spent more time laughing at reviews than I have from watching the actual show 😂

@blahblah6497

Жыл бұрын

About the only thing it is good for

@albatross4920

Жыл бұрын

Memes that cost amazon a couple million bucks 🤣

The whole 'oh there was another simaril and it was stuck in a tree and then good, evil and lightning caused it to become mithril' was the most infuriating thing I've seen in this show by far and that's saying A LOT.

@jeffjefferson2853

Жыл бұрын

I literally had a Mutahar laugh when that scene played. Also the lead up, "please Elrond, recount this exposition to the audience. Yes we both know the story, but the audience doesn't, so explain for them!" This show is gloriously bad, it's like a dumpster fire I can't look away from

@jurgenparkour9337

Жыл бұрын

That was offensive

@TheMeta141

Жыл бұрын

even if you know NOTHING about the Lore. just hearing the. bad guy poured his evil, good guy poured his good. and lightning hit the tree. just makes you cringe. not only is it TERRIBLE writing that makes you shake your head. it sounds like a rip off of PowerPuff Girls

@petriew2018

Жыл бұрын

honestly, the thing that offends me the most is Gil-Galad, witness to the Dagor Bragollach and the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, basically saying there is no point in confronting obvious evil 'cuz, you know, war is bad man That sort of childish morality would have made Tolkien's skin crawl. The whole point of Lord of the Rings was that evil most be confronted lest it destroy you from the inside as well as without.

@gregoryspurgeon8974

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMeta141 Right!? It's like something an 11 year old might come up with!

I want to see all of the "Tolkien scholars" try and defend that entire Mithril lore scene. It is completely world breaking.

@eaenneae5822

Жыл бұрын

This whole series doesn't have anything in common with Tolkien. Bare absolutely accidentally used same names. I don't even want to know what they did with mithril that everyone is now talking about it.

@ahoramazda6864

Жыл бұрын

These people do not understand the basic subordination in the army, how can they understand something complex and more highly specialized? When the elite elves dropped their weapons after a fight with an ice troll, this is a clear example of the stupidity and misunderstanding of the authors. An elite squad sent in search of Sauron cannot be so cowardly. If these are rookies, then what is happening is even more stupid.

"The novel Tolkien never wrote", more like the novel Tolkien would never write

@awesomefacepalm

Жыл бұрын

@@buttquack my two braincells worked hard for that one

@cratonorogen9208

Жыл бұрын

@@awesomefacepalm good one

@depressedgwyndolin

Жыл бұрын

That is quite true mate

R.O.P. Episode 5. Elrond discusses with Celebrimbor how torn he is feeling about the possibility of breaking his oath with Prince Durin, by revealing the existence of Mithril to others, especially King Gil-galad, who has questioned Elrond about it. All while literally breaking his oath to Durin and the Misty Mountains, by admitting Mithril's existence to Celebrimbor and showing him the sample piece, he was permitted to keep. Absolute stellar writing.

@kamion53

Жыл бұрын

"stellar writing"? more of a black hole writing; all commen sense gets absorbed and never can get out of it.

@rayvg7709

Жыл бұрын

@@kamion53 clearly /s on "Absolute stellar writing"

@kjellduteweert9262

Жыл бұрын

@@kamion53 I think it's meant as sarcasm.

@deceiver444

Жыл бұрын

Truly some stellar writing of alltime

@grub833

Жыл бұрын

What's even funnier is that when gilgalad is questioning him it's so obvious he found mithril just from him saying I'm not going to break an oath So he made an oath not to tell anyone someone who wants something Literally 10/10 writing

That Silmaril story broke my mind. I could not believe what I was watching. I literally could feel my brain melting inside my skull. And the cherry on the top was Sauron apologising to the strong bitch for killing her brother and her still not realising who he is. We are in uncharted territories of terrifying writing here. I honestly don't know if I've ever seen anything this bad. And I've seen a lot....

@matiasluukkanen7718

Жыл бұрын

It is like a slow-motion car-crash isn't it?

@nelguinevere4036

Жыл бұрын

@@matiasluukkanen7718 that is a very, very good comparison. It is exactly what it feels like. Super slow, super agonising devastating catastrophe.

@kamion53

Жыл бұрын

@@matiasluukkanen7718 and the longer it takes the less one worries about the fate of the occupants of the crashing car.

@asarishepard8171

Жыл бұрын

Hold on to your butt, they're going for the wizard of oz next.

@asarishepard8171

Жыл бұрын

@@matiasluukkanen7718 ill give en this. I can't look away. But they saw theres no bad publicity and I disagree. This is it.

"Can an author create characters superior to himself? I would say no, and in that negation include both the intellectual and the moral. I believe that from us cannot emerge creatures more lucid or more noble than our best moments." -Jorge Luis Borges, 1951 Says a lot about Tolkien and his heroes. Says a lot about these writers and their heroes.

Out of everyone covering this Just Some Guy has been the most enjoyable for me. Im glad im not actually having to see any of this.

@TheDetherion

Жыл бұрын

same here, would never watch this filth but gladly watch some funny commentary. And even here the few bits from the show make me cringe.

@Contraltissimo

Жыл бұрын

Just Some Guy is a frigging Hero. o7

@blw4089

Жыл бұрын

Nerdrotic has been great too

@darkwolfe6286

Жыл бұрын

Your missing nothing. After I watched Episodes 1-3 I felt foul and I'm still trying to wash this 💩 from my mind.

@dronesclubhighjinks

Жыл бұрын

Disparu is also hilarious!

I think the wRiTeRs wanted to us to understand Celembribor's suffering at the hands of Sauron. The difference is Sauron used torture and they're using bad writing.

@darthXreven

Жыл бұрын

isn't bad writing torture though?? ugh

@jonathanyaloussa

Жыл бұрын

@@darthXreven - That's exactly what I said.

@theredheadwiththread1275

Жыл бұрын

I misread Sauron as Sharon and didn't even question it at first because that's the level of writing this show has.

@DarkTider

Жыл бұрын

And then they made Sauron the most likeable character xD

@samgoff5289

Жыл бұрын

@@DarkTider maybe Galadriel is actually Sauron in this show....it would actually make sense if you really don't think about it!

Numenoreans are also supposed to be towering, impeccable warriors that sent Sauron’s forces into a rout at the mere sight of them. That whole scene with Guyladriel is terrible on so many levels

@matiasluukkanen7718

Жыл бұрын

Sauron's forces routed because they did not want to be part of this show anymore.

@steffanyschwartz7801

Жыл бұрын

They got Sauron to surrender to them. On top of that the Numenoreans ancestors Turin, Hurin, Beren, and Earendil killed Dragons, bested Sauron and almost killed his mortal form, and mentally resisted Morgoth

@Leodachef1

Жыл бұрын

Well doesnt it represent the world we live in today ? Multiculti weak pussy men that cant even handle a spoiled brat, pretty much reality isnt it ?

@JarlBorg93

Жыл бұрын

@@steffanyschwartz7801 But the problem is as we now know that these were not waaahmens... So they are going to change it pathetic as they are

@steffanyschwartz7801

Жыл бұрын

@@JarlBorg93 Turin Turanbar is one of my favorite characters in all nerdom. I would head to Amazon and go full Doomguy on them if they ruined him.

I don’t think I can properly explain how grateful I am that you’re watching this show for me so that I don’t have to. I started reading The Lord of the Rings in 1976 when my older brother gave them to me as a birthday present. I’ve read them every year since then. Now, I’m not saying that I’m a Tolkien lore smith but I was just certain that Amazon would fuck this up on all of us. Unfortunately, I was right. Again, thank you for allowing us to keep our souls clean by listening to you tell us how bad this is. I feel I owe you dinner and drinks….stay strong, little brother

Also, with Strong Woman's armor: It sure does look like her armor from the beginning... You know, from when she left it on the ship when she jumped overboard into the ocean...

@asarishepard8171

Жыл бұрын

Where'd they get that? ,the bottom of the ocean?

@monkeyman321

Жыл бұрын

Was teleported by Amazon’s dark magic

@socialjihad5724

Жыл бұрын

No, she was wearing different armor on the boat, the formless shit that looks like the foam they use for child Halloween costumes...the armor she wears in this scene(which actually looks pretty good) instead looks to be the same she wore in the ice castle, so similarly impossible for her to have

@larocagreyjoy7637

Жыл бұрын

@@socialjihad5724 Yeah she is wearing the same armour as the start of the show, eve though we know she came to Numenor with literally nothing but a knife and a gown, after jumping in the ocean. Who the fuck writes this shit?

@radagast7200

Жыл бұрын

A sequel to the infamous DVD episodes they based the first game on?

Peter Jackson went begging to movie companies for funding to make what is to date the BEST expression of Tolkien's work on film. Amazon invested disgusting amounts of money to produce a below preschool level production after disrespecting fans. Somehow I think we need REPARATIONS for the mess I have been exposed to that has forever ruined my respect for Amazon or Tolkien's grandson. I still face palmed myself with my left foot after hearing the story about the Silmarils. This is beyond disgusting.

@Romulu5

Жыл бұрын

Hear hear!!! Reparations i say!!!

@ElDuderinoh

Жыл бұрын

Amen

@raya8919

Жыл бұрын

I want my Amazon Prime membership refunded after watching this. And Aye, Simon Tolkien is a resentful and only cares about burning his grandfather's legacy to the ground. Any student of Tolkien's work would give anything to have inherited the greatest fantasy IP of the modern age, and yet Simon just wants to destroy it because he doesn't like being in the shadow of it. ... I say, if he hates it so much, give it to someone who loves it and will take care of the estate. He should change his name if hates being in the shadow of his grandfather, and go make his own life far away from it all. But no, he'd rather r@pe and pillage the estate for as much money as possible while burning it to the ground.

@Thor-Orion

Жыл бұрын

@@raya8919 it's his hatred of his father. Simon feels like Christopher cared more for JRR's work than he did for Simon. Now he's making the whole world hate him, hope it's worth it.

@raya8919

Жыл бұрын

@@Thor-Orion Oh I'm aware of his daddy issues. It's just so pathetic.

The biggest thing it seems that this show is missing (and the list is long mind you) is love. The writings of Tolkien are full of love. Characters that love each other, in many different ways, not just romantic. The heroes in LOTR especially all cared deeply about each other and had strong bonds of friendship. Frodo and Sam, Aragorn and Borimer, Legolas and Gimli, to name a few. And not just between friends and comrades, but a love for nature, for one's homeland, for one's kin, for one's king, all of this was oozing out of Tolkien's books and Jackson's movies. ROP hasn't got any of that. I struggle to think of any two characters that even slightly like each other in this show. Everyone is so bitter, on edge, manipulative, and fake, all the time. It's no wonder people can't stand to watch it.

@venerablearcanum

Жыл бұрын

That's Leftism in a nutshell. It's hate all the way down to the self-hate that generates it and is generated by it.

@ettoreoddo

Жыл бұрын

Very deep comment. Hollywoke injects cultural marxism into everything, consequently there's no place for love and beauty. Feminism and identity politics corrupt everything they touch.

@darianstarfrog

Жыл бұрын

It's hate that shows in this show..pure, self destructive, selfish, non sensical hate.. soo stupid..and surprisingly boring!

@ziephel-6780

Жыл бұрын

Morgoth's presence shadows things, even now. The light of Eru is absent, he already abandoned it.

@stefanol7814

Жыл бұрын

Spot on!

Every time I see the "Give me the meat and give it to me RAW" I just cant help cracking up. Cant believe they put that in.

@artnull13

Жыл бұрын

LGBTQIA+ representation right there 😂

@yancieb

Жыл бұрын

@@artnull13 😂😂

After Morgoth's defeat the balrogs fled in panic and hid themselves in the deepest recesses of the earth. Unless it took place in the first age before the fall of Morgoth how did one have time to hold a grudge match with some random elf over some random tree whilst also fleeing in panic?

@ertawanderer1062

Жыл бұрын

not to mention but we know what happened to the silmarils and none of them were inside a tree... also thats not how mithril works it's not magic light darkness hooie it's just a rare type of metal

@glennross85

Жыл бұрын

Im guessing the next silmarill will be hidden up Galadriels arse

@metcaelfe

Жыл бұрын

I think they hope those familiar with the lore don't watch the show any further beyond half way through episode 1

@MrChickennugget360

Жыл бұрын

the Silmarils were literally 1. In Feanor's position 2. in Morgoths Crown. Beren had 1- this then Thingol had it- then Earindil who still has it. the other two were taken by the Valar and stolen by two of Feanor's sons who threw them into the earth and water respectively. What they claim in this show is 100% false- this show is just bad fan fic.

@ertawanderer1062

Жыл бұрын

@@MrChickennugget360 oh I wouldn't say that. Fanfic writers seem to LIKE the source material they write about

I feel like RoP was written by an Amazon A.I. That would explain so much.

@Malugako

Жыл бұрын

Loool this actually makes sense

@glennross85

Жыл бұрын

Written by the Manatess who brought you Family Guy 👍

@michaelwills1926

Жыл бұрын

It makes even more sense if you consider it straight up money laundering 🥴

When I first started watching, Elrond and Durin (despite the fact that they named him Durin) were the only characters I liked and had any investment. That went out the window once it came out their story line was about recharging the elves batteries with mithril, and that mithril was created because an elf and a balrog were fighting over a random tree that apparently held one of the holiest artifacts in Arda (which were never "lost" in the sense that no one knew where they were, by the way) and all three were struck by a bolt of lightning, thereby infusing the mountain below with super-elf juice that could stop the entire Elven race from dying. I know the Appendices were all the writers had to work with, but I'm becoming increasingly convinced that all they did was browse them for names and words to sprinkle throughout the story to make it sound like Tolkien. The same way a middle schooler would write an "original" story for English class and borrow names and storylines from his favorite book or TV show and hope no one will notice.

"We are trying to make the novel that Tolkien never wrote." And as we see there's a good REASON why Tolkien never wrote it XD

15:43 - Somebody hook some generators up to Tolkien's grave because that man is rolling over with some _mad_ RPMs right now.

@joesmith8288

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623

Жыл бұрын

Clean renewable energy. Maybe that was Amazon's long term game all along?

@matiasluukkanen7718

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the grave of his son Christopher. That should keep Britain warm for the winter.

@glennross85

Жыл бұрын

You dont know how generators work do you?

@agustintorres4608

Жыл бұрын

@@glennross85 You don't know how jokes work do you?

How an honourable person refuses to reveal a secret: “Has your friend found something?” “I’m sorry, I cannot tell you.” “Please. “It’s no good asking me. As I said, I cannot say.” How fake-Elrond the Half-elven refuses to reveal a secret: “Has your friend found something?” “I swore an oath not to divulge what he found.” “Ah, so he has found something; spill the beans! “No, I swore a sacred oath not to tell you what mysterious ore he might have found-or might not have found. It’s no good trying to press me further because sacred oaths are sacred to me and if I were give you the merest hint that I knew about his excavations-if indeed he had made any excavations-you might try to extract from me details of the special properties of the hypothetical ore he might have found, thus putting me in an ethical quandary whether to let you see what gift he gave me-if he gave me anything. My lips are sealed!”

@darianstarfrog

Жыл бұрын

ie. Yes! Obviously

@ziephel-6780

Жыл бұрын

Yes, sounds pretty damn pretentious. If Durin heard that speech, he'd cringe his ears off. "Elrond lad, stop with the dramatic and get to the point already!"

Some parts of this series seem to be written in pure spite against Tolkien. - Oh, look, the nice little Hobbits. Let us make them evil so even Gollum would run away from these creatures of darkness. - What a wise Elf Queen Galadriel is. No never, let us make her a self absorbed bratty Woman. - And the primitive and evil Orcs? Oh, poor Orcs, let us make them a kind of missunderstood folks that follow the evil because the Elfs and Men want them to die. etc. May be that these Authors simply cannot create. But only twist and corrupt what was created before.

When the Dark Lord Bezos said he wanted Game of Thrones never would I expect he wanted the Season 8 version of the show.

@AKS-666

Жыл бұрын

GoT season 8 is masterpiece after watching this shit.

I do so hope that Matt and Trey create a special about this dumpster fire!

@Jonkin715

Жыл бұрын

I don't think anything those two could come up with would live up to the shit hurricane that this series is, for the simple reason that they would actually make the special entertaining.

@glennross85

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch the concert? Fuck it was epic!

@svenskhund3603

Жыл бұрын

Seeing how they Portrayed James Cameron and George Lucas raping the star wars and indiana jones franchises i would not put it past them

@ColoradoStreaming

Жыл бұрын

They already made a masterpiece episode from the original LOTR trilogy. I dont think there is any reason to water that down from this dumpster fire.

@poneill65

Жыл бұрын

@@ColoradoStreaming Ah but this one could have "Strong Waman Elves", psychopathic leprechauns and all the Dunedain could be forced to wear ball gags and assless chaps.

This is why the fired everyone who had experience or studied the material. They were probably saying "No, this doesn't make any sense."

@dbrooke3629

Жыл бұрын

"We've spent too much already. Can't change it. Sorry."

I really thought Adar could've been an interesting character and plot line, that maybe he was one of the first Elves to have awakened in Cuivienen who was captured by Melkor and saw his fellow Elves tortured, corrupted and twisted into Orcs. Adar would've then seen how his people were turned into nothing but soldier fodder to fight in wars and no one ever learning the truth. This would at least explain why he sympathizes with the Orcs, and that him killing the wounded Orc would be better to give them the release of death. But also Adar would still be a corrupted Elf being under the Evil Torture and maybe even servitude of Morgoth for so many ages. That he wants the Sun gone so that it no longer hurts the Orcs, and might cause Orodruin to explode and spew forth the volcanic clouds to cover all of Mordor, as to give the orcs a home.

@ziephel-6780

Жыл бұрын

Right?! Ugh

@deen7530

Жыл бұрын

Adar deserves better than this show

My favourite thing about the Rings of Power is watching these follow up videos. Absolutely superb. The stories in Middle Earth were written by a Professor who thought more deeply than almost any other writer that ever lived. Rings of Power have been written by a team with a combined IQ of 48. They need calling out. Thanks for doing this.

Mate, as a well aged Aussie, and having come across you work through the fnt crowd, I would have to say I have loved your takes and informative videos on lotr and a number of other comics and movies ect. Your knowledge is well researched, and very well presented. I appreciate the fact that you speak the language of the elves and no doubt others as well, and I love the way you present it to us. Please keep up these fantastic adaptations, I really enjoy your hard work.

@dusk6159

Жыл бұрын

Much love from Italy as well. These videos are great. Just to add yet another couple of phrases that would totally be in Tolkien and Lotr's vocabulary.

@jeffzeiler346

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's really got a gift for this, huh? He never fails to amuse, and his command of the subject always informs. Hard to believe he's Just Some Guy.

@DIYDumpRat

Жыл бұрын

Another Aussie here. Totally agree with you mate. He definitely knows his stuff 👍

@jonday2594

Жыл бұрын

Agreed - greetings from Perth

@jamesf333

Жыл бұрын

@@jonday2594 my favourite place!

JSG you hit the proverbial nail on the head several times: the writers/showrunners fundamentally do not understand Tolkien's world-nor does it appear they have any love for his legendarium. The only positive thing I can honestly say regarding this show is that it's (unintentionally) a comedic goldmine.

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623

Жыл бұрын

They are cultural vandals who need an existing IP from which to push their political agenda. Because they know damn well that if they gave us an original production no one would watch their garbage.

@kamion53

Жыл бұрын

the writers are not paid to understand Tolkien's world, they are just paid for one season to struggle from episode to episode and most likely get replaced by the same bunch of cheap incompetents next season.

This is an ART CRIME. That's Exactly what the show is...the Incompetence is Staggering.

JSG hits the nail on the head on Galadriel - her main goal is revenge, not that she cares about the world. Awesome character

The hobbit people are the true villains of this show. They are truly awful people and it's a mystery as to how they have survived this long without all of them just dying outright.

Don't forget, Clarke got PTSD and needed therapy due to all the men attacking her causing her trauma. Demi Moore pretty much went through BUDS and torture for GIJane and she was doing fine. Clarke has men swinging swords near her and it's the most traumatic thing ever. Hell, Viggo almost died when an orc threw a knife directly at his face instead of to the side, but he blocked it and kept going.

@mahogara

Жыл бұрын

Who is Clarke? The Galadriel actress? How is she going to survive in that acting business then? Not very strong woman of her, is it?

@luckys901

Жыл бұрын

@Ken North Exposure therapy needed for fight scenes? Gtfo here lmao😂😂. OP was right your wrong

@mahogara

Жыл бұрын

@Ken North Oh thank you for giving me the full story. That makes sense if she wasn't used to it (I don't think a lot of people are used to people charging at them with weapons, anyway). I thought it was after the filming and she was left traumatised. Not saying her trauma isn't valid if that was the case but definitely be hard for her to make it in film industry. Anyway, I'm still reeling at the fact that so much money is spent on this and they don't even have one decent writer or director. Or the fact that it's gonna be 5 seasons!

@nalublackwater9729

Жыл бұрын

@Ken North Darling, no one is used to people coming at them with a sword. She needed exposure therapy as she stated in an interview, before being able to perform a choreography that ends up looking like a pop music videoclip, in which she would have the upper hand (because the writers say so), and with actors who aren't stunt people, look quite scrawny and are younger than her. Throw into the mix that during practice, all "fighters" will be using fake swords and all the padding they would need not to hurt themselves, AND the choreography will always start slow until they all learn their steps. We are not making things up about this actress, we are just saying things as they are. She's a whinny brat, like 90% millennials (I know because I'm one of them) and her story sounds like that urbanite who thinks she's very heroic because she didn't complain when her soy pumpkin spice latte wasn't served warmth enough to her liking.

@katrose5179

Жыл бұрын

@@nalublackwater9729 Still making things up to say it gave her ptsd for which she needed therapy.

I loved that part in the Silmarillion when GuyLadRiel screams to Feanor "ThErE iS a TeMpEsT wItHiN mE" Goosebumps

“The Good, the Bad, and the Silmaril” sounds like a country-themed Tolkien tribute band.

Halbrand's true name will be revealed, he is... Sauragorn

JSG last time: "Nah we just got it wrong, Proto-hobbits cannot be THAT evil" JSG now: "They're literal MONSTERS" I can say that I share your pain on that but still... somehow your sudden realization in vein of 'oh... it's that bad' makes me smirk as it is quite funny. Well: it is way better than show itself.

I was sitting on both my hands and I still launched myself into my ceiling in an attempt to facepalm. Thank you for putting our frustration into a well-written, clearly delivered response.

"The sea is always right" *Facepalm*

Justsomeguy is the man

Some articles say that Galadrial is gonna go thru a character arc, so she'll go from the character we have now to the serene diplomat of the og. But kinda doubt that cause I can't think of any recent female character who gets put thru the ringer, learns a lesson, and becomes a different person. Humbling a female character is sexist, so what i just described isn't allowed. Most female characters these days are created perfect and it's the other characters and the world thst has to change for HER or tell her she's the bestest ever. You really think they'll go a different path this time when every other franchise has not?

I guess two of the five warships blowing up in the harbour is such a commonplace occurrence that nobody is investigating how or why this happened. There should be concern about the safety of the remaining ships, which should be immediately secured and have guards posted on it 24/7. The authorities should be very interested in speaking to the two young men who were in the water very shortly after the explosions. Might they be responsible, or might they have seen who was responsible? This is a major internal security threat for Númenor. Also, they are just casually going to go to battle with 3/5 of their full strength of poorly trained volunteers wearing inadequate cloth/pleather/plastic armour with helmets that are too big and will obstruct their vision if they move their heads too fast. This is definitely laying the groundwork for success.

Amazon: You have not written what I have written. Tolkien's ghost: I wrote enough... Amazon: You have NOT written what I have written!

The mention of Xenogears made me cry, that game was amazing, first time i looked at a video game as art. I learned so much because of that game, from english, to philosophy, just so i could understand it a little better.

@spaceghostcqc2137

Жыл бұрын

Listen to the Xenogears Creid album. Amazing arrangements of the ost with so much emotion.

@brianlinden3042

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised by JSG mentioning it, too! I actually just listened to that same Xenosaga retrospective by TJ just last week! You should definitely check it out, if you haven't already.

That was a really good breakdown of the idiocy of the writing, acting and costumes

You know how I knew how bad this show was going to be? They BURN an EAGLE in the first 5 minutes. You know, the Eagles that are pretty much the symbol of hope and the heroes of almost every story in Tolkiens legendarium at some point of other? Nope. They BURN one.

@ziephel-6780

Жыл бұрын

Aren't the Eagles Maiar themselves? Well, originally planned to be before Tolkien rewritten them. But their pretty powerful still. That was definitely the first red flag.

In a literal sense I'd say Amazon succeeded in making "the novel Tolkien never wrote." Cause if Tolkien we're still alive and writing books, he'd never write something like this.

The dialogue feels like 4Kids getting married with Saban Brands. An adventure series is never like a slice-of-life series.

@rockinbells8351

Жыл бұрын

This isn't even slice-of-life, this is more like dry lecture delivered by the red eye guy from the visine commercials.

@darthXreven

Жыл бұрын

@@rockinbells8351 Bueller, Bueller.......Bueller! several days later Bueller?

@KarmaSpaz12

Жыл бұрын

Depends what you watch, the two can certainly intersect. An adventure can have a downtime episode or two to allow the characters to breathe and adventure doesn't have to be violent, there just has to be conflict and solutions eg Spice and Wolf. Mixing the two might not be everyone's taste because it might feel rather mundane to the people wanting some bite to their action and those wanting a nice and simple story might not be happy when things get a bit intense but there's stuff out there for someone to find and appreciate if they're in the mood to find it.

@LuigiTheMetal64

Жыл бұрын

@@beauwalker9820 That certainly did not help Pretty Cure worldwide. That is why Toei made Precure more available themselves.

i like to thank JSG for sitting thru all this and saving my forehead from all the painful face palms that this series would have inflicted onto myself.

27:00 Not to mention.... where did Guy-ladriel's armor come from? How is it that it fits her perfectly? Was it made since her arrival to Numenor? If so, when? It is an impossibility.

@hansimuli

Жыл бұрын

Based on their show there are elves on the painting and their have been relationships in the past. So obviously this armor must have been either in their treasure or armory. But like with many things in this show they don't show it on screen.

@IHateThisHandleSystem

Жыл бұрын

@@hansimuli Perhaps, but your answer still provides no solution. Armor (especially plate armor) MUST be precision fit. Each piece of the suit of armor is custom made. You cannot simply wear a suit of armor that happened to be lying around. The armor even had the sigil of her house on it. The only way it works is for the armor to have been made specifically for Galadriel. When?... Where?... Who knows.

I was sooo pumped to finally see the Numenoreans and then I saw this bastardization. I described the Numenoreans to a friend of mine who never read the books as basically like a bunch of Master Chiefs from Halo or an army of Doomslayers from Doom. These guys are freaking terrifying and awesome! Then you have this show and I need to get drunk and forget about what I saw depicted.

I think you pointed out the biggest problem the writers have. They know the whole story and think we know what they know despite not showing or telling us. When you point this out they still don't understand how they've failed at their one job which was to make a cohesive and coherent story. The give it to me raw line had me throw up in my mouth but you had me actually bust out laughing. As for the uniforms why did they wear them onto the ship? Isn't it supposed to take days to get to the southlands? So they're going to be wearing the same clothes for days and then head into battle? Obviously they won't shower because there are too many people on the tiny boat.

@mrfreeman2911

Жыл бұрын

It is all visual and nothing impactful. The scene with the armour on the boat is meant to be "EPIC". In reality it is a horrible scene, like all the show.

@harbl99

Жыл бұрын

Nah, it's all mystery box storytelling, just as they learnt at JJ's feet. The possibilities are always going to be more intriguing than the payoff, so just keep stringing people along promising them it'll all make sense later. What do you care if they're disappointed in the end, you already got their money. It's storytelling as con job.

SO GLAD you did a longer ROP video this time!!!

So let me get this straight- Elrond was tasked with going to Khazad-Dum and drafting the dwarves to assist in building a forge within a few months as so to smelt some mithril (which the elves also need quickly) that is only found within the mines of Khazad-Dum - but the dwarves won’t be mining the mithril at full effect since a significant amount of their manpower is diverted to building the forge - at the elves’ request.

@ElDuderinoh

Жыл бұрын

Are you asking something or just making a statement?

@davetycho8330

Жыл бұрын

@@ElDuderinoh a bit of both, in a futile attempt to understand the stupidity that is the rings of power.

after watching the released episodes, i have a 90 percent feeling based on what they have said so far in the show and from some parallels to the lore(very loose to what would be on par if it happens) that halbrand is sauron in their universe.... a reformed soul that tried to leave his past behind but ends up going back to the dark side due to some woman who just wouldn't go home when her superiors told her that everything will be alright....

@glennross85

Жыл бұрын

Nerdrotic and Heels vs Babyface have read transcripts of every episode and confirmed this 👍

@benharder7816

Жыл бұрын

Oh no, the now infamous theme in media: "kill the past" is rearing its ugly head again

@tomashrabica1286

Жыл бұрын

For me, he is the King of the Army of Dead, from Dunneharrow

Love to see you on Nerdrotic when they review each episode live after the show. Your knowledge of the Legenderium is Mighty and your reviews are hysterical. You would fit in well! Plus it might boost your subs significantly. Just a thought

@Adrian-qr6gk

Жыл бұрын

i think he'd do great on nerdrotic. just needs to adapt to their way of doing things but i think justsomeguy can give some great explanations of the events and what's wrong with it. I hope they collaborate one day.

@mikestanmore2614

Жыл бұрын

Well, Shad's already collaborated, JSG would complete the trinity.

@ElDuderinoh

Жыл бұрын

@@mikestanmore2614 shad? Was it about lotr?

@asdf12369

Жыл бұрын

jsg had a collab with gary az drinker and mauler i think at some point where they were gushing over the actual lotr for many hours, but then a bunch of random (unrelated) internet drama happened and i guess they dont seem to collab much anymore :/

@mikestanmore2614

Жыл бұрын

@@ElDuderinoh Yes, just recently.

I don't know what I hate more, this show or myself for watching it

@ziephel-6780

Жыл бұрын

Luckily, I don't have that problem. I don't watch it. My vision of Tolkien is pure and clean

@deathsdoor07

Жыл бұрын

Why are you watching it?

@NovRen19

Жыл бұрын

Heresy eventually perishes after it's lies are made naked and clear upon the sight of those it hopes to blind! We must stop watching this even for negative publicity because it feeds the amazon rating system. Take heart and join us for our EXSURGE TOLKIEN counter rings of power heresy series on our channel. It will be a happy thought in these dark times.

@shokujinki

Жыл бұрын

I bate you more, for watching It

@BIZARBIES

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you, I hate watch it. The whole time I'm questioning myself why am I watching this garbage? I feel so horrible afterwards.

There is actually something in the lore about the Elves who stayed behind in Middle-Earth fading (just as Luthien did, apparently she never grew old, she just faded out of the world as time passed), which is probably what they're referring to. It could also be a very good reason why the Elves were so interested in the Rings when Sauron taught them how to make them. But to tie this in with Mithril, and a Silmaril in a tree? WTF?

@stefanol7814

Жыл бұрын

The three elven Rings are actually an abomination, crafted by the elves in total secrecy (but with the same patented SauronTech they used to make the other rings) in order to try and "stop" (slow) time and create their own mini-Valinor in Middle Earth. Not something you could tell anyone. Nothing to do with Mithril, even though Nenya is made of it.

@Taalzen

Жыл бұрын

Luthien choose to become mortal to bring back Beren from the halls of Mandos, so yes, she remained young untill she died naturally just like men, but she was half elf half maia, the "not aging" thing may be from that.

The Rings of Sour : Here We Go Again

OK???••••••• I think I finally got an idea of how this series ends. Aru-iluvatar destroys the entire cosmos and starts over from scratch. The new universe he creates is the Tolkin universe and not this. It's the only thing my mind can come up with to explain the absolute horrific (EVIL!)of this. I remember in the lore Morgoth screwed up the 1st attempt at singing creation Aru-iluvatar chastised him and started over. I pray that is where we are.

@glennross85

Жыл бұрын

No. This is not canon in any way, shape or form. Amazon borrowed the names of characters and places from Tolkien because they cant world build, thats it.

@ALittleToTheLeft42

Жыл бұрын

@@glennross85 Fuckin' A

@dawall3732

Жыл бұрын

@@glennross85 You're probably correct. However please leave me my hopes.

But wtf are the Harfoots wearing? "Hobbits had whole rooms devoted to clothes" JRR Tolkien

They're gonna snort the mithril. This episode had my friends and me screaming!

Remember when everyone was worried The Rings of Power would just be Game of Thrones with a coat of Tolkien paint? Good to know Amazon can live up to expectations

I really hate what they've done to the hobbits, turning them into sociopathic little monsters. I think the show runners want us to think they are endearing and that's troubling. Also I'm no Tolkien scholar, but I know a bit, so that results in me saying "wait a minute... that's not right, is it? I don't remember that, that doesn't sound right.", about every 5 minutes. That's what happened with the mithril and the elves, so I'm glad I'm not crazy, and that was just a complete load of nonsense.

@Contraltissimo

Жыл бұрын

That _is_ troubling. And I can't tell whether that choice stems from a disconnect due to mere ignorance, or a knowledgeable and calculated malice.

@dronesclubhighjinks

Жыл бұрын

@@Contraltissimo Why not both?

Nice of you to give Shad a mention. Classy move.

Frodo: "What were our ancestors like?" Bilbo: "A bunch of assholes, that's who they were!"

*Don't have the rights to the Silmarillion Amazon: That's fine, we'll just make it mithril instead = $$$$

As critical drinker pointed out, didn't matter how many people watch the show, only matters how many people subscribed to Amazon because of that show. More and more people stop watching every episode and you hear about it less and less in pop culture. Yet it still brought in enough subscribers to keep it going.

@glennross85

Жыл бұрын

They subscribe for overnight Amazon delivery, Amazon Prime is just the toy in the happy meal.

"Give me that meat and give it to me raw." Sounds like one of my early pickup lines in a bar in Atlanta called the Eagle!

“Where you going? No sit there because I had to sit through this show”. Alllllrighty then 😂. GL on your content career champ

I didn't need to facepalm, I just smashed my head against a brick wall... multiple times

It's sad to see that they have turned the Lord of the Rings into a series of Mystery Boxes from Bad Robot.

After watching this mess I’ve joined Team Sauron. He’s the only sympathetic character in the entire show.

I'm very grateful to you for watching and reviewing this show, so that I (and many others) don't feel we need to. Kudos for taking one for the team!

No fandom is more intimidating than people deep into Tolkein lore.

For a second at the end I thought for sure you were gonna say _That's all I've got for today. _*_Go away now._* 'Cause hot dang I wish Amazon _would_ go away.

Tolkien has left the writing room, if he was ever there.

@darthXreven

Жыл бұрын

I'd be more worried if he left the grave....well if I was Bezos I mean lolz

@joshuarichardson6529

Жыл бұрын

The spirit of JRR Tolkien is in the writer's room, swearing curses and insults at everyone in there.

@petriew2018

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuarichardson6529 The only problem is he's swearing at them is proper english so they don't understand most of it....

I was doing laundry while the end of this episode was on. I was in my room folding when I heard some epic music. So I came back out to see if something was happening. Strong woman was just getting on a boat in armor. I started laughing how the music tricked me.

Your Tolkien knowledge is incredible

They "wanted to write a novel Tolkien never wrote"? So what they meant was that they wanted to write a novel Tolkien would be ashamed of writing?

I like watching the show through your eyes. You make it sound like a comedy. I love it.

The ships are something I noticed as well. Without a threat or trade empire they would not have so many large and sophisticated ships. They would just have small coasters and fishing boats.

‘Give it to me raw’ is a line of Gollum’s from The Two Towers when he and Sam argue about the food. It’s meant as comic relief. The writers have so little self-awareness, they literally took that line and used it to mean something completely different.

I knew if anyone caught that line you would have I am so glad you did it is hilarious I cannot believe that made it through Without being edited out

@Reverandfatdave

Жыл бұрын

The editors nor really anyone involved with this show gives one wet fart about continuity.

@harbl99

Жыл бұрын

It's one of the many "Hey! You ain't earned that" lines in this dreadful show.

@ElDuderinoh

Жыл бұрын

What line ? I can’t watch this video it just hurts me an pisses me off lol. Hopefully one day someone will properly do Lotr.

@michaelwills1926

Жыл бұрын

@@ElDuderinoh …Peter Jackson wants to know if you have a minute

@ElDuderinoh

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelwills1926 well besides the movies I was referring to a show done about lotr. Movies were great. Hobbit movies, not so much.

Couple of things I just would like to mention. 1) For Rhythm of War Brandon Sanderson consulted with Shad for at least one fight scene in the book. Amazon couldn't be bothered to do something similar in a visual medium. 2) Because even comparing this to the Hobbit trilogy is low hanging fruit I want to bring up the Princess Bride. The movie had what looked like good fencing done by actors if I am not mistaken who learned during shooting. For movie that I am sure in today's money wouldn't equal the budget for an episode. The Biden administration might want to ask the SEC/ FBI/ IRS to look into this shit. Clearly the money was not all spent on the show or even adjacent to the show like advertising.

"You should watch Deadwood, it has great writing." No kidding. They have such a way with insults.

I am rewatching all of your ROP videos. I could listen to you crush this crap all day. Keep up the great critiques.