Dillinger is a treasure.. I hope history looks back on them and give them the credit they deserve, there's really nothing like it

@johnmchugh8049

5 ай бұрын

I was able to see them multiple times live in NYC - The kids nearly ripped the venue apart - it was absolutely mayhem and I loved it

I like people playing metal with simple kit like him.

@zzqqwwer

7 жыл бұрын

I remember when I first heard Dillinger, this was when Chris Pennie was the drummer and I thought this guy must have double bass drums, a million toms, a billion cymbals, then I found out he had a simple set up and I was blown away, I hadn't been drumming very long at the time and thought you needed a massive set up to get that sound lol

@bornmayhem

7 жыл бұрын

Chris Pennie introduced me to intricate drumming and linear patterns. Before then I had no concept of the complexities.

@bornmayhem

7 жыл бұрын

Chris Pennie introduced me to intricate drumming and linear patterns. Before then I had no concept of the complexities.

@franlovelsimic8421

6 жыл бұрын

yeah, him and Brann Dailor or Ben Koller all have simple kits and do inhumane stuff!

@overthoughtandunderstated

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think more metal drummers should to that to prove that they actually know what they're doing :D

The fact that he is painfully sweaty and out of breath the whole time makes me feel like I'm watching The Eric Andre Show. 😂

@angelfuentes3886

3 жыл бұрын

If the eric Andre show was a band it would be TDEP

@momobungle2366

Жыл бұрын

@@angelfuentes3886 the truest comment ever. From a fan of both DEP and Eric Andre

Im gonna miss the Dillingers so bad..

@angrygoldfish

6 жыл бұрын

Me too. But I'm also glad they're hanging up the cape. I'd rather they went out still awesome than become a running gag.

@danklord6929

6 жыл бұрын

Cough cough metallica

@anttigeier3035

5 жыл бұрын

Same :(

@omnicide3251

4 жыл бұрын

@@danklord6929 what about Metallica?

@Yakudo69

3 жыл бұрын

They escaped :(

Billy's technique is completely insane. He's a jazz drummer masquerading as a metal/punk drummer. Dillinger truly found a gem.

@alexfreakdaxer927

Жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree!!

One of the best drummers on the planet with 0 fucking doubt, what Billy does is borderline inhuman. Controlled agression, precision, speed, stamina, the ear he has to break down rhytms on the spot. I am just amazed and I really wanna hear his drumming somewhere now after DEP disbanded. Luckily, saw them live and holy shit it was chaos! One of the best gigs of my life.

@iamtheemperor1

Жыл бұрын

He plays in a few bands now, but END is the best of them. He played on a split 7" they have coming out next week.

@lolh4x

Жыл бұрын

His new band is called "thoughtcrimes". Released an EP in 2022. It's fantastic.

LESSON INDEX: 0:13 - Song - “Prancer” by: The Dillinger Escape Plan 4:08 - Introduction 6:30 - The Rhythm Creation Formula 35:57 - Song - "Understanding Decay" by: The Dillinger Escape Plan 39:52 - Q & A 50:30 - Song - "When I Lost My Bet" by: The Dillinger Escape Plan

@joshraleigh6885

8 жыл бұрын

What China is that?

@smackcircles

8 жыл бұрын

Zildjian A Ultrahammered.

@polly5185

8 жыл бұрын

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Billy is an architect. Comes across as so smart and knowledgeable about the craft. Really respect and admire both his skill and passion.

My old band played with this guys band way back on the first Dave Mustaine/Megadeth traveling festival tour The Gigantour. Both our bands didn’t really fit in with the Symphony X’s and Dream Theaters that we were touring with. So we for no other reason bonded simply because we were the outcasts of the festival. Great times.

The drumming is amazing, but I particularly like hearing all the nuanced guitar playing I never noticed before. Super cool.

His drumming never gets old, we could watch this on repeat for zillions of years.

Used to chat with Billy on Facebook and he was always so nice and insightful... He introduced me to Mike Mangini's drumming and it all made since where he drew his influence from.... He is a brilliant musician.

I'm not into this kind of music but it is really a special kind of drumming and feel, really impressive. I was waiting for that drummer to make a nice video. When I think about it, but at the first hearing of this song (and also "When I lost my bet"), I was disturbed of how a drummer can play that, almost disliking it by not understanding it, sounded very messy. I really changed my mind when I visually saw what he was doing... damn... like we say in my country, I'll shut my mouth forevermore.

@pietzsche

8 жыл бұрын

+Petit Louis Check out nick yacyshyn (Sumac, The Armed, A Textbook Tragedy, Baptists)

@melefono4273

7 жыл бұрын

Actually it might make more sense if you heard the vocals w/ the song because the drummer's just playing along to the instrumental. lol

@adamdam

7 жыл бұрын

Love your view considering your not into his style of music of music with his band, I think no matter the style or genre, when you see someone play with real conviction, effort and talent you can't knock it...of course i'll be biased cause Dillinger are my favourite band...believe it or not i hate metal music for the most part, I'm a rock guy who loves, in my opinion a handful of great metal bands but these guys 'dillinger' are a one off and it's such a shame it's ending.

@andre-michelgoulet6933

7 жыл бұрын

Petit Louis Very respectable to be able to appreciate an art form objectively, whether you actually enjoy it or not. Truly commendable comment, an increasingly rare thing on KZread these days unfortunately. I personally didn't really "get it" at first despite being a metalhead, but Diligence really grew on me over time as I started to see that beneath the chaos is some truly special musicianship. Seeing them live last summer at Heavy Montreal was absolutely mind bending and face melting.

@Beauxdeauxfinglok

7 жыл бұрын

I couldn't have put it better. I do get down with this sort of music some times, but I've never really looked at any of the drummers (aside from live local stuff) ... I felt my viewpoint shifting all the while I watched the intro here... there's... no denying it when you see a human performing so authentically, with such intensity and facility. Incredibly powerful video

It's about time I listen to TDEPs discography

@lukerogers151

8 жыл бұрын

I recommend all of it apart from their 2007 album "Ire Works" which is pretty disappointing. That's just my opinion though, you may like it.

@jirunjak

8 жыл бұрын

Try hearing to Calculating Infinity and Miss Machine. The drum parts were played by Chris Pennie though. But it is still dope.

@lukerogers151

8 жыл бұрын

Personally, I believe Pennie was the best DEP drummer. His drumming on the early DEP stuff is untouchable. So much respect for Billy though :)

This may be the single best lesson on this channel. So cool just how much you can do with a single pattern. It has opened up such an insane gateway for creativity for me.

I really admire how people with a lot of knowledge can explain things so simple, Billy Rymer is my hero

I really dig how he consistently maintains this super high stick height. It adds so much to the experience, both audibly and visually.

Billy Rymer is like, the most interesting drummer to listen to in heavy music. He’s my utter favorite.

@alexfreakdaxer927

Жыл бұрын

Yeah!

@ShikariHybryd

4 ай бұрын

Always will be for me. There will never be another TDEP.

I am not a drummer, but I find this stuff fascinating, and also find that I've become a much faster and better at TYPING after I watch these lessons

@oleksiistri8429

Жыл бұрын

did you apply Rhytm Creation Formula to your typing ?

And is the man half-machine or is the machine half-man?

@JacobawSnow

6 жыл бұрын

Patrik Martinovič aye

@TheseBitchesWantNikes

5 жыл бұрын

Yoooo

@matiassanchez7634

5 жыл бұрын

Hey man, I think I am unretrofied for you

@mikereza9302

4 жыл бұрын

I'll just fake it in the end

@kevinmm20

4 жыл бұрын

He's half man, half bear, and half pig..

get Zach Hill on Drumeo, love him or hate him he is an extremely unique math rock drummer who can play absolutely amazing and complex things

@DaSlothMaster

7 жыл бұрын

Lmao you think he could teach? He's not from this planet

@James-dh8ig

6 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, yasss!!!

@vibes6326

5 жыл бұрын

would be insane but i honestly can’t see it happening since DG is so antisocial media-wise. but to be fair he’s always been the one to do interviews

@julientredan

4 жыл бұрын

Great idea if you want a guy staring at the camera for 45min (he's out of this world, really).

@twobirdsstonedatonce

4 жыл бұрын

Two things: I think the anti-social perception of him in Death Grips would probably prevent him from wanting to do something like this, as well as the fact that he may not have the much technical expertise to share with us seeing as he said he mostly plays from feel. I think the best lesson we could receive from Zach is to play with as much passion as possible, and don't worry about occasionally bleeding all over your drum set lol

Funny how the backing track has a different mix than the official album track

@zabelzardok

5 жыл бұрын

The bass during 'when I lost my bet' is atomic.

@FlickMonthana

4 жыл бұрын

@@zabelzardok it steals the show hehe

Fabulous drummer and band, amazing!! I've been playing drums for a couple decades now and it never ceases to amaze me not only average people who aren't musically inclined so much that couldnt believe I used 4 piece kit and lesser cymbal setup, but the musicians, specifically, drummers who could not wrap their minds around the fact I played the kind of music with minimal setup and gear. As the old saying goes; *it's not the size of your ship, but the motion of the ocean."

Seen Dillinger since 2001 with the different drummers including Billy and all of them have such great feels and have added something different to the DEP sound. Billy is like a mix of Chris Pennie and Gil Sharone, I really enjoy listening to him play.

what an awesome drummer and Band i've just discover ! i've never heard something like this before

What a nice guy and what a great feel ... loved his arragenments

6.22 drummers are awesome. Billy still tapping his knees even when in front of the kit. So great

Dude is a machine. Love watching them live, great lesson!

Absolutely loved this lesson! Great formula not only for building independence and speed and create new rhythms with anything, but it could be great for improv/solos!

It would tickle me pink if you guys could somehow get Travis Orbin on for a Drumeo lesson. He's a monster.

@NathanSletner

3 ай бұрын

Literally the cleanest.

That bass is on fiiiiiiire!!!! @50:30 - Song - "When I Lost My Bet" by: The Dillinger Escape Plan

Super tight and musical playing

This lesson was very very practical for real. Props to +Drumeo and to the drummer.

New respect for the Metal guys.. This guy is so smart.. He brings respect to the art of this style.. Bravo!

I'm so happy you guys got Billy in for a lesson. Super bummed I missed the live lesson, but I'm so glad it happened! Can't wait to tackle the single-kick edge course.

So good!! Such a heavy drummer with the best feel ever!! Well done Drumeo for putting Billy on! Keep it up!

Awesome! Thank you drumeo for putting out lessons like this that I can actually apply to my style of drumming!

Theyve had some talented drummers but this guy😮

I love the compactness of his kit! Awesome! He can do so much with just a little.

He's so humble. Billy you are a master!!!!!!!

This is my favorite drumeo lesson, really dig this approach to drums, amazing

This kit sounds fuckin amazing.

It is always a joy to see rymers playing. Awesome drummer.

That was sick. Thanks Drumeo and Billy for that - loved it.

I'll never forget either hearing nor seeing DEP live for the first time, circa 2000.

Loved this lesson, thank you to all involved.😄👍

Respect! One of the greatest!✌🏾 What fun he makes, what perfection ... I can only bow deeply before this skill!💪🏾😀🖖🏾

So sick! I've watched this hundreds 💯 times!! Hard hitter!!

He's not human. Insane!

Omg Been waiting for this!

@jennifergraham5729

7 жыл бұрын

Takumi Koyama

@jennifergraham5729

7 жыл бұрын

Takumi Koyama

Absolutely loved this. My favourite band & drunmer

Love this guy, great drummer and obviously The Dillinger Espace Plan are freakin' awesome!

Thanks for this lesson, really cool to see this drummer here, he's really great !

Holy shit you got Billy Rymer

HOLY SHIT HOW HAVE I MISSED THIS?!?! One of my all time favorite drummers

Just chaotic levels of talent and understanding man, beautiful

AWESOME. good lessons, crazy tunes. great work billy!

Seen em 3 times, insane every damn time lol, but the technicality maintained with the amount of chaos ..... This is 10+ years later and I haven't seen anyone else even come close

I will never forget seeing DEP in undergrad. One of the most terrifying crowds I've ever been in.

I love this man. I'm glad dep landed on him after all the drummers they had. I liked all of them but Billy killed it.

@Yah_Mean

Жыл бұрын

Chris Pennie for life tho

I love how metal drummers mainly play jazz cymbals. Love it

Hahaha at the beginning when Billy's playing and he keeps looking directly at the camera it's like hes goin "oh yeah, you like that dont you, you sick bastard. Oh yeah, mmmm yeah it's good!" Haha

Honestly, this is the gateway to gospel chops!

i love the way he thinks as well as the way he plays. DEP made some mind blowing music

Billy Rymer is one of the best, the baby-faced assassin.

Dave: "That was great man!!" Billy: "yeah, it was cool" 39:51

@ObstinateRealist

7 жыл бұрын

"That was sick man"

How could I miss this lesson?! Billy is a monster!

Still one of the best videos on KZread

amazing drummer, amazing band, i love this band for years !!

I loved this lesson love this drummer, again thank you Drumeo :-)

Yay!!! Drumeo just made my year.

this dude raised the bar in how every drummers hands 'should' look

God damn. Every time I go to watch a video about TDEP I realize that I started listening to them when I was still a year or two away from graduating high school, have been listening to them ever since I heard Calculating Infinity, and it's been just a pure bliss this whole time. Like, there's maybe 5-10 bands/producers across the genres I like that I have listened to as consistently as TDEP, and they're probably the only band ever I've been listening to for as long as Dillinger. Okay, maybe Pink Floyd, but they're a cult classic that hasn't released a new song in decades, and hasn't done so for quite some time before I ever heard them first, and sadly I can't say that I love every single Pink Floyd's album ever released, but as far as TDEP goes, every album they dropped had at least a single great song, and I haven't expected any better from any band or a solo musician for ages, and nobody has ever delivered on that front. My god this band makes me emotional.

@alexfreakdaxer927

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. This band is the greatnest of all times. I has been listening TDEP since 2011, and i know a Insane number of artists, my opinion about Dillinger is the same every year..."they are the kings of the Music and technic"

Great lesson, all the bands he mentions are epic too.

I rarely hit the like button for things that give me a headache and nosebleed, but this dude's exceptional

I love hearing these songs without all the other parts.

OMG,IT"S BILLY!!!MY EARS! *_* THANK YOU VERY MUCH,Drumeo!!1!!

When I was 20. I didn't know what hit me. Now I'm almost 40, still it's madness.

There's a fair percentage of amazingness displayed here.

Billy is the man, my main inspiration right now.

I got to the end of the first songs and then realized the whole video is nearly an hour long haha Worth it O_O

Thanks for the genius Lesson it is greatly Appreciated.

Billy!! You are amazing.

Billy is a great drummer. Love Blakc&Blue background. He probably is an Inter fan! :D From Italy!

Drumeo might want to invest in higher FPS cams, cuz these cams can't keep up with some of these fast guys haha! At moments I have no clue what he plays by watching, can only figure out by listening and guessing what it was I just missed xD

@rafazeppelin

8 жыл бұрын

+Obviousz I already said that it would be better if they post these videos at 60fps. It would be more fluid.

@RasmusRosenfeldtHansen

8 жыл бұрын

+Rafael Oliveira it also seems speed up.

@rafazeppelin

8 жыл бұрын

Rasmus Rosenfeldt Hansen​ Just a matter of getting used to it. Actually it's more like the way we saw naturally. But we were "taught" on movies to see at 24 frames.

@lukerogers151

8 жыл бұрын

+Rasmus Rosenfeldt Hansen It's not, I wouldn't have thought so. He's just a very fast drummer.

I saw him with Dillinger in Hamburg it was GREAT!!!

My favourite drummer. Love u and ty drumeo for video.

Six years later and still so freaking fresh!

brilliant lesson. thanks!

Love that he mentioned Converge, Cult Leader, and Nails there at 48:32. I've been venturing into that more hardcore-driven style of music as of the past couple years and those are three bands that have stuck out to me.

@axelplaysdrums1126

8 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Trap Them, which he said first, it came off as a surprise for me, i love Billy even more now lol

@sawdust07

8 жыл бұрын

+Axel Karlsson Yeah definitey, although I've personally haven't been able to get into Trap Them very much

@juliusaugustino8409

7 жыл бұрын

sawdust A lot of the bands that Kurt Ballou is involved with are great definitely.

@sawdust07

7 жыл бұрын

I love his production style and I'm glad he works with these bands, and of course his work in Converge is great

@rippindrummer666

7 жыл бұрын

Try darker handcraft by trap them. Might be one of the most underrated heavy albums of all time. The drums on it are sick

Interesting lesson. I like the steps.

Thanks for the cool video, Billy's a totally sick drummer.

I know somebody already commented on this but he definitely said he just tracked a Glassjaw album!! that is awesome!! Billy with Glassjaw sounds very exciting can't wait for that! Thanks Drumeo for having this forum to teach all of us drummers and to inspire us to want to grow and be better on our kits!! I'm totally amped to play right now!!

Lol every time i think "holy shit that's fast" he proceeds to go even faster xD

OMFG, this is the best choice ever.

I know the Dillinger escape plan is metal but this sounds like jazz to me lol

@revsharp777

6 жыл бұрын

Meshuggah Fan8675 you're very right. In a lots of ways, classic Dillinger is jazz at warp speed with distorted guitar and screaming.

@hazardeur

5 жыл бұрын

@@revsharp777 soundskinda wrong to me. I mean it borrows a lot of elements from Jazz but it doesn't sound anything like it, not even on warp speed. The most obvious change being that DEP has a strong emphasis on rhythtm and in Jazz it's usually more the melody (of which there is a lot more in Jazz too, at least in most subgenres) It's kinda saying like Metal is rock music on speed. While for some bands that's true, for most unqiue bands it's not really holding up. I think Math Metal describes it the best but it's not ideal either

@b1llygo4t

4 жыл бұрын

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think billy was a studio jazz guy before dillinger

@TunnelSnake-es7tu

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure if the guitar was less chromatic sounding it would be like jazz

@Locohappy

4 жыл бұрын

It's basically progressive hardcore.

finally! thank you guys!

very awesome! thank you

This is just great!

love the minimalistic kit