The Republic of Venice - History and Government
In this lecture we explore the history of Venice and the evolution of its elaborate republican system. How did a lagoon village become the commercial centre that helped revive Europe and build the modern world? How influential this idiosyncratic form of government continues to be and what are its pros and cons?
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Ive been watching every lecture by John ... I mean every one. Thank you centre place. Abraços do Rio de Janeiro
One of my favorite Venetian stories comes from the time the Lombard laid siege to the city, or rather the islands. Eventually the Lombards starting running out of food.l The Venetians took to using shipboard catapults to toss bread into the Lombard ranks to let the Lombard soldiers know that they weren't able to starve Venice. There is so much of Athenian heritage and history that is applicable to Venice, including even the importation of the bones of a patron saint (or heroic figure, as in the case of Athens)
I have never been to Venice, but my dad who is from Nottingham, England has. He said it brought a tear to his eye as he stepped upon St Mark’s Square in Venice.
@Hypnopotimus27
3 жыл бұрын
Gang Gang, I'm from Nottingham too. Never been to Venice tho.
@FeelingShred
2 жыл бұрын
It should be: "It brings me tears to my eyes when I think about one of the biggest companies in England which is Primark relies on slave labor and human trafficking so that we can have cheap T-shirts" We live in a profoundly sick society
@Hypnopotimus27
2 жыл бұрын
@@FeelingShred no one asked
@magnumopus1628
2 жыл бұрын
@@FeelingShred Dude, I care about the things you speak of, I really do, but going around preaching this stuff is only going to make people dislike you and therefore the things you speak of. It's precisely like vegans, the concept is great, it's how they behave that makes you want to eat a giant steak.
@FeelingShred
2 жыл бұрын
@@magnumopus1628 It's true, I don't even remember why I was so pissed off XDD Sometimes just gotta vent out I guess to put pressure out
Great talk, thank you! You've got to love the comment from the woman at the end who said, "They kind of screwed themselves over," as if it was a special observation. Look at every rise and fall of all civilizations throughout history. Just about every fallen dynasty, country, or city state in some way, shape or form, kind of screwed themselves over through people's power games of status and wealth and fighting. Welcome to the human condition. Do you think we'll every learn? Here's hoping...
@MrRedcarpet02
Жыл бұрын
well it ended with the invasion by Napoleon. They worried being raised to the ground, so chose to capitulate to him.
@edwardd.484
Жыл бұрын
Or do we actually want these empires to last forever? Birth/ death cycle is important for new people and ideas to emerge. Anyways, dont you think the discovery of the new world and the rise of powers with Atlantic ports actually had a much greater impact on the decline.
@jimranallo686
Жыл бұрын
It seems like the "fortunate ones" have been up to the same tricks... from experimenting with societal structures...most resulting in the transfer of wealth...mass distractions...from creating and funding both sides of the wars to religious "reforms"... surveiling domestically and providing intel to anyone to avoid invasions... basically controlling the narrative long ago...as it's becoming more transparent... empires... generations...pass on the old money...that has never gone away...a dog and phoney show that isn't so funny anymore
@philodonoghue3062
2 ай бұрын
The height of American academic sophistication
Excellent! A deep knowledge about history, and a simple way to explain it.
@deanvrabl
Жыл бұрын
He really does know a lot of things
Please ask the students/participants to save their stories for the end. Quick questions are fine, but their long interruptions to tell anecdotes, personal views, etc., disrupt the lecture. Maybe there should be a discussion session afterward for those who want to listen to these, we online, don’t. PS: it’s not the “Mayans”, it’s the “Maya”.
@uuyyy8568
6 ай бұрын
Couldn't have been said better
@billyb7852
2 ай бұрын
This comment put me off watching altogether
thank you from Vienna for this lecture! (was in Venice a week ago)
At the end the lady in audience brought up that initially Venice started to trade exporting salt to Constantinople for goods to trade with Europe, which they supplanted with their own copies as best they could make, but one other important commodity they would have a monopoly on was Glass, probably stained class types too, IIRC.
So I just "needed" to know about the origin of Venice & lo' & behold you guys came up & I'm already Subbed, well done!!! & thank you...
Excellent presentation and research. Love your videos 👍
Magnificently presented. Thank you!
A study of the venitian empire is an absolute must...to have a grasp on todays geopolitical scene...the same decendants of these families still have much of the world confused and basically slaves to the centuries old agenda...cheers!
@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator
Жыл бұрын
How do you mean?
@jimranallo686
Жыл бұрын
@@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator I was speaking of the current financial system that is currently used and traced back at least to the fall of the western roman empire... when venice fell after centuries the system moved to Netherlands but more exclusive to London...later wall street...same old money....borders change but old money remains and make the rules... you know this...sure you do... cheers from Mexico
@jimranallo686
Жыл бұрын
@@ResidentEyebrowAppreciator what I meant was studying the venetian empire is a good starting point to understand today's monetary system... domestic and foreign surveillance...the means that were used to prolong their safety... example... providing invaders with intel to secure their safety while distracting their potential opponents... organizing wars and supplying and playing both sides...after the fall of the western roman empire... Italy became groups of city states... Florence played key roles as well as Genoa and others.... although the venetian banking system we see failing today... goes back further....to perhaps the Babylonian and Persian days... it's a place to start...."old money" never goes away... cheers from Mexico
John Hammer cracking up was hilarious.
I spent so many hours exploring Venice in Assassin's creed 2. Its such an amazing and pretty city.
Thank You very much for this class
Who is the lecturer, John who? Why isn’t this in the description box?
Would someone,please, write name of this historian... I bumped here totally by chance. And I'd like to Google him. Thanks
Excellent lecuture, thankyouverymuch' :- )
I'm watching in installments, but man oh man is this good! I love the bit about stealing St. Mark.
I like this guy ... one funky dude!
@haze1123
2 жыл бұрын
Agree! I want to go camping with him and listen to his campfire stories. LoL
Really good. Thanks.
❤This was wonderfully informative.❤
The guy at 21:45 is Leonardo Loredan, one of the most famous doges.
I loved this lecture
Fast forward to about 55min to the best part
@sian2337
3 жыл бұрын
Why were they laughing?
@matthewsutton3682
3 жыл бұрын
@@sian2337 Probably because of how insanely convoluted Venetian government was, that the lecturer can't help but laugh out of self-consciousness at how ridiculous an explanation of it sounds.
21:47 this is Doge Leonardo Loredan
46:00 - it was not Russia but Principalities of Rus which are rather modern Ukraine and Belorus - because Russia will be formed (both by name and as core-territory) only in the end of XVII - beginning of XVIII cc.
A little trivia for you: Donald Duck is there because that window used to be the showcase of an old and very famous toy store of the city. The bridge that you see is still affectionaly called by venetians “the bridge of toys”
@topotondo828
6 ай бұрын
Also I would argue that Donald Duck is more popular in Italy than Mickey Mouse!
The Doge at 19:09 is Leonardo Loredan, who reigned as the 75th Doge of Venice from 1501 until his death in 1521.
Did not the banking element of the crumbling venitian empire basically move their operations to england...and started the city of london...and onwards throughout europe and eventually constructing wall street?
1:20:00 I need to know where to find this quote please !!
Thumbs up for the laugh outburst regarding the Venice elections. That must be where Samuel Hahnemann got his idea about homeopathy from.
But what happened to the families that ruled Venice? Did they stay in Venice or they moved to other parts of Europe?
@FluffyFishy69
Жыл бұрын
Most are either still there or have moved to their mainland estates in veneto, they suffered a great decline in wealth after Napoleon and Austrian occupations.
@hyperion3145
2 ай бұрын
Ioannes Metaxas was a descendant of the noble families of Venice, he became a dictator of Greece.
They did the elector system for 400 years. However, they only used it once.
The smart arse at 13:30 getting owned 😊
@litomito5154
3 жыл бұрын
That's me :/
@jcavs9847
2 жыл бұрын
@@litomito5154 are any of the other lectures from this man available online?
I miss the republic of venice
The flooding left this water i hear from history.
ng in Italian is pronounce like ny. All you had to do is remember the last time you ate lasagna
@contacthigh1
2 жыл бұрын
il maestro, "ng" and "gn", there is a difference there.
@gussetma1945
2 жыл бұрын
@@contacthigh1 Yes, I made another comment correcting myself almost immediately afterwards. It shows on my screen right below my original comment, but you may have to search for it if you want to bother.
Jesus why do they feel the need to interrupt constantly with whatever tangential anecdote crosses their mind? And I thought Americans were bad for that.
@kimberlyperrotis8962
Жыл бұрын
It’s so annoying!
The process of choosing the doge with the electors and the balotino.. lol
@ ~ 11.10 New sub - most of time, I'm bored w/lectures. *Not* w/these lectures! And some of us are made to feel crazy because we don't like former president. Thanks for joke.
well the voting worked for 1000 years, that's more than you can say for any other government in any other country, and it looks like they were trying to make sure the result was really random
Makes you wonder if Venice formed an colonial empire?
@eyzmin
Жыл бұрын
yes, Duchy of Candia, Duchy of Nacos, Duchy of Dalmatio, etc. all colonial governments in essence, with the local (usually orthodox) residents being 3rd class to the second class non-venetian catholics and the first class catholic venetians
@eyzmin
Жыл бұрын
*Naxos
@eyzmin
Жыл бұрын
*Dalmatia, damn I did not proofread at all lol
of course I meant gn
@contacthigh1
2 жыл бұрын
il maestro buono, You got it. I guess we can research the Venetian dialect for the "Arengo" phonology. Stammi bene, Amico.
Too many errors on the slides and I don’t like the way they show the slides, first at full size, then a zoomed-in version. Just as I start reading one, it changes scale and I have to figure out where I left off. Please just show them at one readable scale.
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Venice is a modern construct of Phoenicia.Venezia= Phoenicia.
Um... Oh, never mind.
I think it was a major mistake in the presentation to put the comment on how the election process gave the state it's stability for centuries. If that was stated first, I don't think there would have been so much laughter about it, and people would have had impetus to think more seriously about the way the system gave the state such stability.
Can't we have any part of our lives free from partisan politics now? Jeez man, it might be funny to half the population, but for the other half of us "deplorables" there's just no end to it. Give it a break!
@kazhamo
Жыл бұрын
🤏🏽🎻
Imagine being so political as to make 4 jokes based on a false modern narrative in a lecture about medieval history.....
Great video but for a highly educated Professor this man has appalling rhetorical skills.
@103617
2 жыл бұрын
What professors are you working for? He does a great job communicating the material.
can he stop laughing at everything he says?
@elvenkind6072
2 жыл бұрын
It's unbearable to watch it, I had to give up after 10 minutes because of the constant insecure giggling.
@b0b0-
2 жыл бұрын
Pathological
@elvenkind6072
2 жыл бұрын
@@b0b0- What is?
@b0b0-
2 жыл бұрын
@@elvenkind6072 haha, his diabolical snicker. It never stops
@elvenkind6072
2 жыл бұрын
@@b0b0- I'm not likely to try to listen more to this man from now. :¨( **nervous**
This lecture could have been 20 minutes long.
Please stop spreading lies. It was the Turkic tribes who were kidnapped Slavs and selling them to the Persians, Turks.. Yes
is this guy stoned? sketchy presentation, at times no much of deep sense of history
Always knew you was a Joe biden supporter. I'm out.
@pmaigotthat7211
2 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares
@saintbrush4398
2 жыл бұрын
Pfff. On a video about Venice lmao.
@appolonius5468
2 жыл бұрын
@@saintbrush4398 They just can't help themselves, can they? I suspect people will be cracking up at this comment years from now.
Stop laughing
Nothing new and very f5,:ng boring
The popes, those criminals, cared not about the fate of enslaved Slavs but about the growing power of those who engaged in trading the slaves. The popes constantly fought for power. Peace was not their domain, neither truth.
The man in the portrait is Leonardo Loredan.