Long live the EU 🇪🇺

@antonioguerreiro1615

2 ай бұрын

x2 one thing Brexit did do was unite us even more .............one of the many benifits to us here in the EU

@andrewkenny4633

2 ай бұрын

The UK can't rejoin it will be a request to join the EU and I don't think it will happen for a very long time you now have trade deals with Australia and New Zealand and have joined the CPTPP and you won't like to be just an ordinary member with no special deals

@antonioguerreiro1615

2 ай бұрын

@@andrewkenny4633 part of the "original sin" was the UK had to many privileges ..did not sit well with many ..

@antonioguerreiro1615

2 ай бұрын

@@-BY205 here in Portugal you can actually feel that, !!!!.....Germany is the leader of the free world!!!......they are gone, have stopped hogging the limelight and we are all better off

@Belaziraf

2 ай бұрын

@@-BY205 They had really advantageous deals. No one would have thrown them away. They did. Even if they rejoin, they will never get what their predecessors spent 40 years negotiating. First, they will have to prove they are serious and won't throw another tantrum before the EU parliament would consider their application. I can't even imagine how it can be done. The second and easier option is to let the Brexit fade into history in 2 or 3 generations before applying. But do they want to wait for (at least) 2 or 3 generations ? Though they would have the same requirements than any other applicants, Brexit will add the necessity to prove a real will and commitment to join, remain and contributing.

Listening to informed, intelligent people talking about the Brexit farce is a refreshing feed.

Head of EU back then said to leave with no plan is astonishing, and he was right.

Heseltine quote "after the cataclysm events of the WWII, the Europeans decided that we have to had a machinery-institution ,politicians,parliaments,commisions, in order to bring a degree of well-management to the European history". the institutionalization of Europe has replaced a thousand years of Bloodshed.

@nicodesmidt4034

2 ай бұрын

Except in the UK, which is still operating in the Victorian era 😮

@sararichardson737

2 ай бұрын

It’s called progress

Thank you so much for this Rob! So timely ! Brexit is still the main thing that people still talk about on social media. There is a huge amount of despair about Brexit and about the our EU situation. Let’s keep the issue centre stage and “out there” !

Excellent conversation. Good luck to the new party in getting that one seat! 🎉😊

Great discussion. Well said, Brendan Donnelly and Richard Hewison. I don't think the troll factory is in Moscow, it is more likely to be in Tufton St.

@BrianCharlesThomas-dp9du

2 ай бұрын

I absolutely agree with you 👍

There is no rejoining process, just a joining one :)

Thank you Rob, excellent, it's so nice to see sanity coalescing, you all echo my own Thoughts and Beliefs.

Excellent work Rob, as a settled European in UK for over 20 years and as touring musician, I am constantly self conscious of my status in the country I live and love, so conversations like this give me so much hope and believe. For this I thank you!

For me, personally, the worst of the anti-EU rhetoric to anger the EU citizens came from our former PM - Boris Johnson; upon making the pledge to help the Ukraine escape the invasion of Putin, Boris made the hideous analogy of the UK similarly escaping the EU.

@fitzstv8506

2 ай бұрын

The irony here is that Ukraine is now an EU applicant country and the EU flag flies alongside the Ukrainian flag in the Ukrainian Parliament.

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

He has said so many horrible things.

@AlexGys9

2 ай бұрын

There have been so many insults hurled by so many, it is impossible to remember them all. However, I will never forget Farage and his ilk turning their back and waving their little Unions Jacks in the European Parliament. However, all this will be forgiven and forgotten as soon as you deport him to the island South Georgia and not provide him any services beyond the biweekly delivery of thermal underwear, potatoes and baked beans. A reality show with him trying to survive in the wild would be the icing on the cake. 😀

@Patmofar

2 ай бұрын

And Johnson made that claim while England still imprisons Scotland in its utterly rotten to the core Union, the same Union that the Irish had to fight and win a war to get out of. A Union that Ireland, Scotland and Wales were press-ganged into membership of in the first place and given no say in the matter. A Union that has never benefited anyone except English aristocracy.

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

@@Patmofar I can't argue with that at all. The way Scotland has been treated by Parliament, regarding independence, is appalling!

I will never forgive the 34% (leavers) for dragging us out of the EU. And I will never forgive the remainers who couldn’t be bothered to vote.

@dub604

2 ай бұрын

The vote was 37% Leave 35% Remain 28% didn't vote.

@russmarkham2197

2 ай бұрын

well said. My sentiments exactly, to this day

@operationgoldfish8331

2 ай бұрын

@@dub604 In referendums that create a political mandate, instead of advisory polls, like the EU referendum, those who don't vote are counted as supporting the status quo, because it is assumed that they lacked enough information to convince them to vote for change. The 2016 vote was non-binding and was rejected by the Conservatives as the reason for their decision to leave during a High Court hearing in 2018. They have been lying that the vote had binding democratic value since then, but if it had the court would have ruled the outcome illegal.

@claudiafigueiredo4979

2 ай бұрын

Only pass because a lot of uk citizens living in EU where able to vote and a lot of the older generation that where alive at the time

@countfosco8535

2 ай бұрын

No I am not ready to forgive. It would help if they apologised.

The British politicians running around after thr referendum like headless chickens is an under statement.

I would dearly love to rejoin the EU but, alas, the doubt I have is that Brexit has damaged the UK's international reputation to the extent it will take a generation for things to turn around. I would vote for a political party who wanted to rejoin.

@itemushmush

2 ай бұрын

agreed. our leaders (elected leaders, too!) have spit on the EU for decades, and boris being PM just solidifies that we can not be trusted anymore

@itemushmush

2 ай бұрын

david cameron putting this up to a vote was the worst decision in decades. what a fool. and he's now our FOREIGN SECRETARY?? jesus christ. can we put in a law where anyone who went to eton cannot run as an MP? boris is one, too.

@GCS88

2 ай бұрын

Sadly Gary You are too right about that, if there's going to be a referendum to allow UK to rejoin us I for one will vote no. The way I see it is if UK would like to rejoin then it should not as UK, but as individual sovereign countries so atleast its apparent to see who wants to be in than those who doesnt.

@russmarkham2197

2 ай бұрын

well said. I have always been sorry to see that the Lib Dems did not get more support as the only party that remained pro-EU in the last few years. I have the same concern about the UK's tattered reputation, and frequently see a lot of UK bashing in the comments to these videos on Brexit. They will say that the doors are shut forever, the UK is untrustworthy, the UK was always the troublemaker, and the EU will never allow the UK to rejoin. I can hardly blame them for their attitude. But it makes improving relations just that bit harder.

@gary5737

2 ай бұрын

@@russmarkham2197 Thank you for your comforting words. It is so easy to shout out something for no other reason than to drown out a voice of reason. It is not the amplification that matters but the substance.

So glad you continue with your debates. This is great.

I’m so grateful for the EU advocate vlogs, keeps me sane and hopeful

I am not a Russian bot I promise, I spent 38 years in the UK, I left last year fed up to the rafters with the bile and vitriol, I had a great life in the UK but am delighted to be back home in Portugal. I DO NOT want the UK back, I do not want to run the risk of a Farage and co ever being in our Union ever again sorry .........greetings from Coimbra Portugal .....P.S I WILL NEVER EVER GO BACK TO THE UK

@garyarnold3141

2 ай бұрын

I don't really blame you but remember that almost half of the UK population voted to remain. I was close to tears when the referendum result came through. I think that more British people are seeing that Brexit was a huge mistake.

@itemushmush

2 ай бұрын

yeah rejoining is a TWO WAY street

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

Personally I believe new UK legislation should be implemented to prevent the likes of Nigel Farage representing the UK as an MEP. Nevertheless you should not fear a Nigel Farage comeback - he is a spent political force. I doubt Nigel will want to come back as he'll be regarded as a political nutcase in re-selling the proven failure Brexit; and he won't be able to defend himself.

@itemushmush

2 ай бұрын

@@garyarnold3141 i think eu countries see the repeated elections of people like boris (he had a huge majority in 2019!) and their disgusting hatred of anything european as a sign that things are not as they were and maybe britain SHOULDNT be a member in the future. we've kept hitting ourselves in the face by incompetent politicians, but they were elected by us!

@kevinu.k.7042

2 ай бұрын

@kevinu.k.7042 So you swallowed the vitriol of the heavily biased MSM? And, what is your motivation for watching a pro EU UK channel?

Thanks gentlemen 👍

Edwina Curie said on Irish Radio that Germany would throw Ireland under the bus to protect their motor industry. GB was only country thrown under the bus.

@fitzstv8506

2 ай бұрын

Priti Patel actually suggested that the UK could starve Ireland if Ireland impeded brexit in any way, what Patel did not know in her ignorance is that Ireland produces 11 time more food than in consumes much of the surplus going to the UK, the UK depends a lot on Irish produced food. Blackmailing Ireland appears to have been part of the Tory brexit plan...that worked well!!

@williampatrickfagan7590

2 ай бұрын

@@fitzstv8506 I remember her saying that maybe it was time to make the Irish go hungry again. A direct reference to the Genocide inflicted on Ireland by the British Government. But I was unsure who said it. Ireland was never going to be thrown under the bus. If we were, what message would that have sent to Iceland, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Malta Cyprus etc. As one prime minister told Tony Connolly, I do not fully understand the Belfast or Good Friday Agreement, but I do know what Ireland wants, in these negotiations, Ireland will get.

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

Edwina is talking nonsense. The UK gladly threw it's own fishing and farming industry under the bus, for Brexit!

@saba1030

2 ай бұрын

​@@fitzstv8506 Well, the EU27 would support one of its member states = the RoI, therefor "starving Ireland" could quickly turn into = closing borders at Calais etc 😂 They still seem to forget, that the UK is an Island... Greetings from the EU27 🖐

@gobnait7855

2 ай бұрын

​@@saba1030 The UK is not an island. Great Britain, composed of Wales, Scotland and England, is an island. The UK is the ''United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland''. The Conservatives made Brexit even more ''awkward'' by forgetting that.

I wish them lots of luck in the up-coming elections... Finally some grown-ups in UK politics..

Thanks for this it give me hope I think we will be back

Well done Rob 👏

Nice surprise Rob. Thanks.

Excellent work as always Rob and your guests. Thank you.

All EU institutions residing in UK like EM moved to Holland. Don't think NL will give it back to UK after reunion

@trident6547

2 ай бұрын

None of the institutions UK had will come back even if it could comply with the criteria for application. UK needs to get all EU countries to give consent for starting the accession process after the commission has checked that UK complies with the Copenhagen Criteria. That first stumbling block will already be hard to overcome. For example the debt of UK is way too high for a candidate country. An acceptable level is near 60% of GDP.

And the attention Liz Truss is getting ought to be of deep concern. The British public's capacity for forgetting should never be underestimated, even about a calamatous reign like hers.

@sirmeowthelibrarycat

2 ай бұрын

😲 A calamitous ‘reign’ indeed, as the former Prime Minister of Lettuces thought herself to be regal . . . 😠!

@robtyman4281

2 ай бұрын

I know. Also, many people seemed to have forgotten how the Tories behaved during the pandemic. Which is actually quite scary (that they have seemingly forgotten this, or 'swept it under the proverbial carpet'). How they behaved then, should never be forgotten. But the right-wing dominated UK media are already doing their best to get the public to forget the Tories appalling during the lockdowns. This is all part of our headlong march towards turning into an Authoritarian State. Large sections of our media are totally complicit in this. It's almost as if they WANT this to happen.

@jeremymmoraw

2 ай бұрын

How can you forget when your monthly mortgage statement reminds you all about it ?

@annenunney9907

2 ай бұрын

Well said

@marijo1951

2 ай бұрын

To be fair, most of the attention is mocking and amazement at her wrongheadedness and sheer lack of self-knowledge.

It’s about time you folks across the pond figured out you made a horrible error. You should have known when Trump said Brexit was a great idea. Best of luck from an admirer of your country.

@marijo1951

2 ай бұрын

I can assure you that many of us knew from early in the morning of 24th June 2016 that a terrible mistake had been made. The people who I resent the most are the 27% who didn't bother to vote - most of them because they just assumed "Remain" would win.

I think that an important part of this campaign is to make the Department of Education put Civics on the curriculum in all areas of the UK. People fell for all the EU lies because they don't know how our Government works and how it is Elected. Those that had a vague idea of that still had absolutely no idea about how the EU is elected or works. We need to educate our children quickly so that they can make informed decisions in a way their parents and grandparents couldn't.

@trident6547

2 ай бұрын

That is indeed a very important aspect of the future join campaign. But educate the adults too including the politicians.

@ericajohnson3504

2 ай бұрын

​@@trident6547yes I agree, but "educating" adults is harder as most don't want to be educated and just hold to their current view. This is a long term failure of our Government to leave the population ignorant so as to take advantage and persuade them with lies. Massive TV documentaries and features would have to be broadcast and you would still miss many people. Leaflets to every home, fines on Politicians for lies and disinformation. As you see it would be very complex and may still not work because of entrenched attitudes. Senior School pupils are a start but not the end.

Great interview all, I will certainly be supporting the Rejoin EU Party in the upcoming elections. Keep up the good work guys, we need our voices heard!

Bringing truth to power means making trolls your enemies. Be proud and ignore. The Brexit-liars brought upon the current mess, and as long as people are willing to listen to them, the mess is unfortunate, but well-deserved.

Keep going rob

Nothing will change in Britain if the systems remain. All parties are playing the same game. Those who want Ye Ol' Britain to live for ever - the wealthy and the tax paying peasants - hold the power, be it in government or not. They support and protect the system, own most of the media and whomever owns the media, has the power.

This is wonderful, thanks Rob! Great chat with them

A very interesting video, it's great to be able to listen to a positive discussion about the EU. Maybe after the general election the mainstream media will also allow such discussions again.

Thankyou. An excellent interview, and very informative. It is getting increasingly hard to work out which comments are from real people and which are from internet bots. I think that is made harder by people using numbers with, or instead of, their names. But it is becoming increasingly obvious too that politically-driven chat-bots are, and probably have been for some time, having an unhelpful influence on online public opinion. However, as a pro-EU subject of the UK, I wish you and The Rejoin EU Party every success. I remember when we confirmed our membership of the EEC, my father (ex-RAF) expressing his relief saying that being in Europe was one of the reasons he and his friends had fought for [in WW2}, and that some of whom had given their lives for it. Sadly, he is no longer with us, but fortunately he had died before Brexit. He would have been 99 this May. Thankyou, Rob.

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

Some of the more we'll known bots have perfect normal names above their post, I don't think that is any indication. Only the content counts.

Great. I will join up.

There is no rejoin. There is only joining. There is no great clamour in Europe for the UK joining the EU.

@sirmeowthelibrarycat

2 ай бұрын

😠 Your ignorance of the English language is clear. Britain JOINED the European Union 🇪🇺. Britain left the European Union 🇪🇺. Thus Britain can REJOIN the European Union when circumstances permit. I do not charge for any lessons I give as a highly experienced teacher of ENGLISH 😠!

@martinhommel9967

2 ай бұрын

@@sirmeowthelibrarycat rejoin is off the menu.

@maartenaalsmeer

2 ай бұрын

@@sirmeowthelibrarycat I'm sure that 'rejoining' is grammatically very much correct. But to some of us across the Channel it implies a certain expected ease. It's also phase two, phase one would be 'applying'.

@ulfosterberg9116

2 ай бұрын

​@sirmeowthelibrarycat you English can talk how you want but if you are going to talk about rejoin you are going to ris heckles in all EU. Being seen as an entitled idiot is not going to help.

@sirmeowthelibrarycat

2 ай бұрын

@@maartenaalsmeer 🤔 Indeed so. The one implies the other. First the PRINCIPLE, then the PRACTICE. As in WANTING to buy a car, then BUYING one that is suitable for my needs. Sadly, this is merely exchanging words for me, as there is no prospect of Britain becoming a member of the European Union 🇪🇺 in the remaining few years of my life 😢!

I'm afraid it won't be rejoin. Only join. The eu won't accept the UK until both main parties want to go in. Otherwise it's a waste of time for them.

What will the UK body politic do to make the EU believe that the UK can be trusted?

Thank you for having us on Rob!

I think that many EU member didn't forget how Farage and most of the MEP's behaved on the last day by waving the tiny Union Flag.... When I watched this I also thought that it's good that these anti EU members left. Now after 7 years the UK is slowly learning but I think it will need much more time before the rejoining topic will be a topic in the EU.... It's also depending on Labour how they will look at this in the next years....but frankly speaking I don't think that Labour Starmer is a person who will start the process.....

@sirmeowthelibrarycat

2 ай бұрын

😠 The gross and disrespectful behaviour of those British MEPs is insufficient to condemn an entire people as being anti European Union 🇪🇺. Also the ‘Leave the EU’ campaign won the faux referendum on a MINORITY vote of the whole British electorate. You may recall that both Northern Ireland and Scotland voted to REMAIN in the European Union 🇪🇺. The English in Wales ensured a LEAVE vote took place BUT it was the bigoted, hateful, ignorant and prejudiced English voters who caused Brexit. Thus it is necessary to keep in mind the difference between the numbers who voted AND the total electorate, which should have included EU citizens 🤔.

@gazza595

2 ай бұрын

Such people as Farage will never go away, they exist in some form or other in many European countries although notably quieter since Brexit. If they have a view they are entitled to it. It's better that that shout and whine with their nonsense in public so that they can be challenged by the reality of what they have done and what right wing nonsense such as Brexit means.

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

I expect the EU to be assured that the UK has changed before any UK application is accepted; hence the UK must address this issue first. For me I would want to see the introduction of UK legislation that prevents UK MEPs representing anti-EU parties. Hence goodbye Nigel Farage and Richard Tice.

@sheilafordham7659

2 ай бұрын

To see Farage on the news last night saying "Thank God for Brexit" shows the little Englander mentality which is to blame for the whole sorry mess of Brexit. Why on earth they thought it a good idea to hold their conference in Brussels shows their disregard of all other viewpoints. Hold it in Moscow next time - they can be sure of a warm welcome there! Has he left the UK yet as he promised?

@sirmeowthelibrarycat

2 ай бұрын

@@sheilafordham7659 😧 Indeed. And then the reaction from Number Ten was only to be expected . . . Is the Prime Minister planning to invade Belgium because a Belgian Mayor ordered a conference to close due to the inflammatory rhetoric from those attending that presented a threat to public order?

Brexit and its consequences were accurately predicted over two decades before the referendum was announced in a book of an unknown author who was totally ignored. According to him, the possibility of rejoining will take at least a decade, but it will be up to the EU to consider the acceptance of the UK on different conditions. However, by that time, the UK will be different and much poorer. The author also predicted that Brexit would have been an economic, social, and political disaster for Britain, but a positive thing for the EU as it would strengthen it.

This is Brilliant Rob I remember Brendan Donnelly and he was right about the Conservative Party was different then this video has given some people a bit of hope knowing their are people like these that are serious about this country getting back into the EU and has one of your guest said Starmer should be doing more to talk about this but he wont at least not at the moment thanks Rob take care

It is going to be difficult to convince 27 national and 10 or so regional parliaments to approve a UK application if and when it is made. People in the UK seem to conveniently forget that Brexit was initially seen in the EU as a threat to the union's very existence. From the EU it looks as if the increased percentage in favour of rejoining is provoked by purely economic reasons just as it was when the UK joined the EEC. I'm afraid there aren't many in the EU who'll be in favour of pulling the UK's chestnuts out of the fire a second time.

@nicholaspostlethwaite9554

2 ай бұрын

Good. We did only ever joined a trading club, the reason we hate the eu is all the garbage added on, the political nonsense. That eu is an Empire out of the age of empires and has no place existing. If those continental nations wish to cease to exist and become greater Gemanfrance good luck to them, we never will. Greater union? Means death of nation and end of existence lost to foreign overlords.

@maartenaalsmeer

2 ай бұрын

@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554 _We did only ever joined a trading club, the reason we hate the eu is all the garbage added on, the political nonsense_ This is not true. The 1957 Treaty of Rome already spoke of 'an ever closer union between the peoples of Europe' and UK politicians were very aware of that when the UK joined in 1973. The EEC and later EU has always been political and not 'just a trade bloc'. It was the UK that chose to view and treat the EU as merely a marketplace.

@trident6547

2 ай бұрын

@@maartenaalsmeer Well they signed all the treaties "on behalf of her Majesty QE II" so one could assume they actually read the treaty before grabbing the pen. One fundamental change effected by the treaty is stated in Article 3(3) of the accompanying "Act concerning the Conditions of Accession and the Adjustments to the Treaties" where the new members agree they will, regarding original Member States and Communities agreements, "observe the principles and guidelines deriving from those declarations, resolutions or other positions and will take such measures as may be necessary to ensure their implementation". Article 4 continues the list of agreements they undertake, and in 4(4) they agree to adjust their international agreements "to the rights and obligations arising from their accession to the Communities". Now if this is not clearly enough explained already in the treaty that it is not only a trade bloc when it has to be explained to the new members in 1972 when the treaty was signed. There was even a paragraph about establishing the commission.

@nicholaspostlethwaite9554

2 ай бұрын

@@maartenaalsmeer Absolutely. I was young at the time and actually asked my parents what the 'ever greater union' meant. They said as far as they could tell it was continental flim flam, verbiage as it had no meaning. One of my parents was a head teacher so not completely stupid, before you try that on. In those days long pre internet, trusting of the bbc and politicians more generally I guess people were more trusting and misled by Heath. They saw it only as a trading arrangement and that is a common view of people of that generation. Now yes in retrospect that meaningless twaddle of words had a nasty attitude behind it that few if any were remotely aware of. It was decades later and the morphing towards the evil eu rather than the simple eec that the dreadful appalling nature of it all became clear. Yes Clever Cloggs can point out such wording but it was not the reality of lives back then, or understood as we now see the nasty Continentals or a section of them, wanted a new Napoleon/Hitler/Caesar pan European Empire they had tried by honest war many times before and been defeated. We will not be part of this evil agenda. Had they been honest and used plain honest words, like, We will work towards making only one nation out of all Europe, it would have been rejected out of hand, hence the lying deceitful greater union meaningless deceit. No one can trust a word the eu elite ruling cabal say, not one word.

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

No you did not, and any hate is based on a lack of education and thus understanding of anything EU related. ​@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554

There is no rejoin There is either join or leave.

@srfurley

2 ай бұрын

Doesn’t the EU document which contains articles 49 and 50 to define the procedures and requirements for joining and leaving itself use the word rejoin to apply to a country which has left and wishes to become a member again? The word says nothing about the terms under which such a country might become a member again.

@therealjetlag

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think you understand English if you think that’s true.

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

Even worse, there is only "applying to join"

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

​@@therealjetlagI don't think you understand the sentiment that the specific use of that word implies to the non-UK parties involved. Grammatically you may well be correct, you can cite the Oxford dictionary and whatnot, that is not the issue. The issue is that the continental english/American speaking public, the ones that might determine about your membership, interpret it the way many posters have expressed. Your (and other posters) disregard for that sentiment and the stubborn "I'm technically right" attitude will not be helpful in winning sympathy or votes.

@trident6547

2 ай бұрын

​@@srfurley Article 50.5 Treaty of EU: Any country that has withdrawn from the EU may apply to rejoin. It would be required to go through the accession procedure. That means you are strating from scratch just like Croatia the newest member of EU joined in 2013. Google: "2013 enlargement of the European Union" to get a more detailed picture of how a country joins nowadays. It is a pretty onesided process where the candidate country implements all the EU aqcuis. No negotiations about opt outs or rebates. Just implementing EU laws, treaties etc in a process with 6 clusters that have 35 chapters. All chapters need to be closed with the consent of the memberstates.

🤔 Rob, how many potential electors understand the three-part voting system for Mayor of London and the London Assembly? How many will give up and either not vote or only vote for the Mayor? I remain pessimistic about the answers to these questions ☹️!

Marvellous

I am UK born and have lived in the EU for the last 50 years. There will come a time, I believe, when, this new party will have to rename itself the JOIN The EU Party. RE-joining is a ship that has sailed.

You won, get over it. EU is so much better without the islandmo.......

I always find the word "protectionism" interesting. Used as an insult when the first responsibility of government is to protect its citizens. Protecting us from corporate excesses and exploitation for the extraction of profits? I wish!

Thanks Rob.

I think the EU will only let the UK re-join under certain conditions: That there is political unity in EU membership (we won't just leave again when another party gets in) , that we join the Euro, and that we join Schengen.

@josefinenilsson8059

2 ай бұрын

There is no procedure to "rejoin". Only a procedure to "join" from scratch. And the UK cannot join as it barely meets 50% of the accession criteria.

@gazza595

2 ай бұрын

When the UK rejoins we will obviously have to comply with the entry criteria and that will be a good thing, joining Schengen and the Euro should be a given. Other entry criteria would simply move us forwards and modernise our moribund, stagnant society, economy and consitution

@seancassidy674

2 ай бұрын

@@gazza595 joining the Euro is never a given - many countries have successfully avoided it - I haven't seen much of an enforcement mechanism. Outside of single market/customs union, freedom of movement is what the EU cares about most.

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

@@seancassidy674 Do you have a problem with the UK adopting the Euro?

@irminschembri8263

2 ай бұрын

@@seancassidy674 Hm, strange as a member of TWO EU countries and a teacher of European politics I know that EU's concerns are more about the protection of the environment, consumer rights and protection, workers' rights, financial stability, security etc etc. SM and CU are VEHICLES to reach those goals - nothing less nothing more! Interesting enough both seem to be the SOLE reasons for the UK to join again !!! And do tell me which countries " avoided" membership as even Norway and Switzerland are CLOSER aligned to the EU than you mightn think they are !

The lack of quality in our politicians is universal the result of privilege based instead of a meritocracy. The talent is drawn from a small part of society [this effect concentrated in tory party]

@therealjetlag

2 ай бұрын

The lack of quality in our politicians is down to the voters. People elect them.

First, Rob. Hope is hard to die. I hope for a reversal before I die, I'm a little older now.

I think eu has enough problems as it is, let alone letting the always difficult uk in (again,). Last experience in 'working together", and recent 'functioning' of uk politics, do not entice eu to be thrilled to let uk in .

I’d vote for them if they stood in my part of the world. Not sure they would have us back.

Let Scotland become independent and join the EU. I’m sure Wales will soon follow and by the time England realise they have reduced trading, they will rejoin EU

As long as the EU steadfastly retain their principle, that the UK's offshore banking system must be regulated and taxed, then the UK will not join the EU and the EU won't offer the UK membership!! And that isn't scepticism.

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

the Eu doesn´t "offer" membership period. To no one. European nations can apply.

It is time to call out nasty Bodger propaganda and expose it for what it is?!

What a fascinating discussion! In many ways echoing my own thoughts on where UK goes from here. Why would Europe have Brits when we proved de Gaulle right? If I can be irrationally optimistic for a moment, what's left of the Tory Party, Blukip, is exactly where Labour was in the early-1980s. Then, Labour had to suffer some of their most emphatic defeats with their most Eurosceptic manifestoes before evolving to be a more pro-Europe party. I think GB is on a trajectory to re-join in some form, but I don't think it will be so simple for the Conservatives to pivot back.

The Brexit argument has always been that "the EU is a fascist dictatorship run by despicable vindictive bureaucrats dreaming of suppressing the freedom-loving people of the UK", right?. I recommend inviting people from the EU, and Europe in general, on your show to perhaps create a more balanced view of what the EU actually is all about? I believe this would be the first step towards improving the relations between the EU and UK.

Time for Starmer to grow a backbone, and educate the country (those that need it, anyway

I'm a Brit living in Austria. I have all what I had before the vote. Nothing has changed for me. SO! Ok you all go on about rejoining the EU. But What if the EU doesn't want you? After all what have you got to offer the EU???

I seriously doubt the EU would ever take us back...and I don´t blame them.

@nicks4934

2 ай бұрын

So do nothing?

@liamhegarty3220

2 ай бұрын

@@nicks4934 Did I say that?

@nicholaspostlethwaite9554

2 ай бұрын

Hopefully that will save us from the nasty elements that put personal greed before right and wrong and want back in as slaves to a foreign dominated empire.

@AlexGys9

2 ай бұрын

Nah, I believe that I speak for most of us when I say that we would welcome you back. All we ask (or require?) is that you accept the good, the bad and the ugly of the EU. We know it will take some time but we will be there when you are ready.

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

​​@@nicholaspostlethwaite9554how is a voluntary union of sovereign nations, whose members can leave by single notice, with a qmv decision making proces ever be an empire? Look at your own sorry union for that, where non-sovereign countries have to do as they are told by the English majority without any possibility to leave unless the English decide só. Everything you undereducated brexiters wrongfully accuse the EU of applies fully to your own union.

Let's do it ASAP.

Great video. The sooner we can start taking steps to rejoin the EU, the better.

@AlexGys9

2 ай бұрын

The first step you personally can take is to stop using "rejoin" but use "join again". While rejoin might be grammatically correct, it rubs many non-native English speakers the wrong way. Just look at some of their comments.

Good initiative!

Danke!

@TruthToPower

2 ай бұрын

Vielen Dank, Harald!

Great job guys !

The UK electorate will not give up the UK sovereignty. Therefore rejoining the EU is a no starter.

Start with the young,you will be very well received and shout loud, you've got my vote

Yet, when it comes to Scotland, Davies won't use his democracy rhetoric. How very undemocratic of him. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Indeed. We'll never have you back is untrue. We can't wait to have you back is untrue too. But english, not uk, the english will have to change their views, and preferably their media, first. There's no point in rejoining just to redo brexit.

Welcome back! Will you be ok with federal Europe this time around?

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

What makes you think that only the UK is resisting a United States of Europe? Even if other members wanted it, why would a federal Europe be a problem to you?

@fitzstv8506

2 ай бұрын

While there is a push towards a federal Europe from certain quarters such an entity is perhaps generations away, if the UK joins the EU in the midterm it will essentially be joining an enhanced version of what the EU is today.

@JohnStevens-gp7ge

2 ай бұрын

Speaking just for myself, definitely.

The UK can only ASK to join again. Not sure the EU is keen to do that

@gazza595

2 ай бұрын

Senior figures within the EU have repeatedly made very positive comments regarding the UK rejoining the EU. Nobody would be foolish enough to claim it would a foregone conclusion, short term or easy but it's the future and we need to take on the nay sayers and get moving.

@jounik

2 ай бұрын

@@gazza595 If the opinions of those senior figures within the EU had any weight over actual Article 49 proceedings, that might even be relevant.

@nicodesmidt4034

2 ай бұрын

@@gazza595agreed, lots will need to change though before the UK is considered

@maartenaalsmeer

2 ай бұрын

@@gazza595 _Senior figures within the EU have repeatedly made very positive comments regarding the UK rejoining the EU_ Those 'senior figures' (you might be referring to UvdL and/ or Barnier) also clearly state that the conditions for joining are clear and the same for all aspiring member states: meet the Copenhagen Criteria and be voted in unanimously. Both pretty big hurdles for the UK ATM.

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

You do understand that the UK that left the EU will be far different from a UK wishing to return the EU?

It's time to get serious about rejoining. We should start talking about it more and more

@trident6547

2 ай бұрын

You should first start to talking about what needs to change in UK before you can apply for membership. The list is rather long.

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

You should start talking about how the UK will deal with the next few decades as a 3rd country outside the EU, and how it can prepare for possible membership in the future. All those "rejoin" debates bring nothing other than wishful thinking non-opportunities and circle jerking about SM membership.

Such honourable men

As someone who left the UK as a result of brexit, I can tell you that there's absolutely no appetite for the UK to rejoin the EU. Frankly you're more trouble than you're worth. The ink wouldn't be dry on the treaty before you started looking for exceptions and op outs. The UK just can't be trusted.

I think the right wing media will never back rejoining the EU if we had to switch to the euro instead of the pound ,i would love to rejoin but i think it will take at least 20 years before the tide turns in favour 😢

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

It's nostalgic fantasy and delusion. The cold facts are no amount of manipulation of the pound-Sterling will compensate Brexit losses.

@15:20 onwards You are incorrect in badmouthing usernames with four digit suffixes because it is KZread that is adding those digits for no positive reason

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

There is a very positive reason from KZread to do so: to show identity theft.

Comment from Denmark: Perhaps it would be constructive for you to contact politicians inside the EU about this matter and have them on the show? At least, you would probably find good evidence that most people in the EU do not hate the UK, but in fact like you Brits and would like to find a good arrangement for trade and all other issues in future.

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

There already is a good arrangement for trade, even though the UK hasn't implemented it in full yet. It's called the TCA, which gives the EU mostly what it wants, without having to deal with threats and mischief from the UK. Keeping a 3rd country at arms length for the health of your own union has nothing to do with like or hate, but with what is good for yourself.

@larslarsen5414

2 ай бұрын

@@ab-ym3bf I think that you are missing my point. The ongoing Brexit argument is that the EU is a fascist dictatorship like the Soviet Union run by despicable and vindictive beurocrats that wake up every morning hoping to suppress and bully and blackmail the freedom loving people of the UK, agree? This lie is designed to prevent closer collaboration between the EU and the UK, agree? So, maybe it would be good to sit down and have an open conversation with this supposedly evil monster. That is all I am saying...

@larslarsen5414

2 ай бұрын

@@ab-ym3bf The Brexit argument is that the EU is a fascist dictatorship run by despicable and vindictive bureaucrats dreaming of suppressing, bullying and blackmailing the freedom-loving people of the UK. Maybe if the people in the UK were allowed to actually meet this evil monster things may improve? That is all I am saying…

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

@@larslarsen5414 no, that was not the point expressed in your OP.

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

@@larslarsen5414 that is a bit of nonsense don´t you thiink. The Uk has been part of the EU for what, 45 years? So 45 years of "meeting the evil monster".

Will you have Rejoin EU party as a ballot option for next GE?I'm afraid my conscience and my anger will not let me vote Labour. Libdems are useless and waffle too much about too many things in addition to Brexit. Green I value but are not vocal enough about rejoining. But YOU are. I would definitely vote for you in principle alone! Please be on our ballot, otherwise for the first time ever I'm not voting.

I am still convinced that one of the main driving factors of Brexit was a very strong anti German stance (4th Reich etc.) among huge parts of the English population.

HI Rob, Maybe you need to put up a poll on the channel asking if people do or don't want to talk about Brexit? We, for two, want to stop talking about Brexit, but only after we are back in the single market, customs control and the EU. Keep up the good work

Wishful thinking. We don't do prodigal sons.

@CuriousCrow-mp4cx

2 ай бұрын

The Royal Wee?

@josephturner7569

2 ай бұрын

@@CuriousCrow-mp4cx I live in France. It is a republic thankfully.

Unfortunately, the UK will never be allowed to rejoin the EU, as it would require that all current EU members to vote in favour. That will never happen, as Europe no longer trusts the English. Scotland, yes Wales, yes Northern Ireland, yes. But the Westminster English never!

@Nice0n3

2 ай бұрын

Not really a question of trust. Governments in the EU change as well. Its more a matter of what the UK will offer in return for membership. To coin a phrase: The EU holds all the cards. The british will simply not be able to bear all the conditions that will come with membership. I'd imagine: Greece would want a few things back in its museums. Spain would want a few words on Gibraltar. France would want to talk about fishing. etc...

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

@@Nice0n3 What makes you think those 'conditions' makes continuing Brexit the more favourable option?

@Nice0n3

2 ай бұрын

@@lloydbelle3406 Joining will again (as it was initially) have to be the subject of a Referendum. There are those that would rather keep the UK out of the EU in order to milk it for their gain. As such they would focus on the conditions the UK will have to meet. British exceptionalism exists as a phrase for a reason. The damage of Brexit would have to be clearly proven to everyone in the UK in order to overcome any objections to the EUs conditions. Shengen and the Euro will be among those. Its a pretty steep hill any campaign to join the EU will have to climb.

@lloydbelle3406

2 ай бұрын

@@Nice0n3 You stated the essence of my answer for me - "The damage of Brexit would have to be clearly proven to everyone in the UK in order to overcome any objections to the EUs conditions." We all know that Brexit has create severe damage. When Leave voters say: "What damage?" - I see a person with a mental welbeing issue who stubbornly refuses to admit to Brexit failure; not someone who lacks intelligence to detect failure. Brexit damage will keep multiplying. In fact it is the biggest reason will the Tories will lose the general election - trying to ignore Brexit damage.

@Ooze-cl5tx

2 ай бұрын

@@lloydbelle3406 By the time enough leave voters will finally have realized the damage and it can be considered "clearly proven to everyone in the UK" the accumulated damage might well disqualify the UK for EU membership.

I can't forget the day when British MPs in Brussels turned their backs to show off their disrespect while the EU anthem was playing. The main reasons given now to justify the return is that British people ( not all ) realize they have lost money and have problems with movement within the EU due to the new regulations but this is exactly the Brexit scenario you voted for .

@fitzstv8506

2 ай бұрын

Not all the British MEPs turned their backs some were in actual tears at having to leave the Parliament!.

@Para2normal

2 ай бұрын

That day made me ashamed of my country, pathetic little people like Farrage and Widdecombe with their pathetic, little bigotry.

@nicks4934

2 ай бұрын

No it isnt. The question was remain or leave.

@carlobellinaso4974

2 ай бұрын

@@nicks4934 Of course the question was remain or leave yet I am talking about its consequences . John Major and other prominent personalities clearly explained how Brexit would jeopardize the British economy.

@therealjetlag

2 ай бұрын

When SOME British MEPs turned their backs. And we didn’t all vote for Brexit. Words matter. Be better.

Thanks for the bonus video Rob, and thanks to all of you for keeping the rejoin conversation alive. So many have capitulated and accepted our outsider status because "now is not the time" and " Joining the EU will take generation". Now is both the time to talk about it and to begin whatever processes are required, not when "Everyone agrees" or in "at least another 25 years".

Thanks Rob for this video. Fighting stupidity is not an easy task. 😂 Don't mind the trolls.

If you wanted to become an EU member again, the first thing you should do is start working on fullfilling the Copenhagen criteria. But who would have guessed , the entitled english instead argue among themself how to circumvent and renogitate those requirements. What more is needed to proof that they are just not able to take part in a union of equals, they only know the union where the english rule.

@trident6547

2 ай бұрын

Son of Viking wrote this in a comment chain on KZread some days ago: " "Brexit" was not a reversible process, and to re-enter the EU/EEA market requires the application of a series of fundamental processes of its own - the most crucial one being a democratisation of your country in constitutional terms so that it conforms with the definition of both concepts as set out within the Copenhagen Criteria, which in turn requires that your country discontinues the unique British practice of "internalising" international treaties so that it has always historically reserved for itself the right to arbitrarily renege on commitments made in these. This was deemed tolerable back in 1973 by the then EEC Commission who, against their own better judgement as voiced by several of that organisation's then members, allowed the UK to become a member based on what were little more than verbal assurances that its invisible constitution was up to the job and that it would behave lawfully. Its failure in both respects, after years of lesser failures exemplified by "cherry picking" and ignoring of treaty terms which did not suit it, was finally and fundamentally exposed by "Brexit" as a constitutional and societal flaw in your polity that debars it in its current state from ever being allowed near a rules-based international cooperative bound by international treaties, let alone becoming a member of such a bloc. Some hard work, in other words, lies ahead of you just to get your own house in order - and the establishment of an actual democracy with an actual constitution defined as a set of principles by which the people of the UK consent to be governed would be the essential first step. Any true "rejoiner" who fails to acknowledge this requirement, let alone addresses it, is simply demonstrating the same level of exceptionalist delusional thinking within your society that was so easily exploited to get you to lose your membership of the EU in the first place. "

@verttikoo2052

2 ай бұрын

I can’t understand why they don’t get it? They have to first clean their room before they can get a biscuit 🍪 Meet the criteria 100% We will absolutely not give any exceptions. No opt outs. Nothing. No cherry 🍒 picking.

@verttikoo2052

2 ай бұрын

Europe is completely united with this. We will not repeat this 💩 🎪

@nicholaspostlethwaite9554

2 ай бұрын

@@verttikoo2052 Fantastic! We rely on it, to keep our crazies at bay that want back into servitude to the eu Empire. It is as you show up, an unsaleable proposition.

@verttikoo2052

2 ай бұрын

@@trident6547 He writes so well 🥰 Pure poetry 🥰

Why are you puzzled at people who voted to leave watching your youtube channel? I am interested in what you have to say, in particular in relation to what the EU trying to achieve, what is end goal and also whether the influence of the voter over the political agenda is diminished by Britain being a member of the EU.

I reckon the majority of comments are left by trolls and bots and gbeeby viewers

Great vid. The history of EU MEPs should be put about more. Clearly Farage and Habib got in there and poisoned UK membership from within ....but why wasn't their behaviour exposed?

@saba1030

2 ай бұрын

Over here at Continental EU it was exposed, the bad behaviour of certain British MEPs was well known...

Let Scotland and Wales join EU first 🎉

@michaelmayo3127

2 ай бұрын

And Ireland reunite!!

Johnson started many of the EU lies

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

They fell in fertile grounds.

A bad manager continues with a bad idea despite the evidence of the damage caused. A trait of public school pupils.

Get us back and give this country some future please

Brexit was tactical. It gave the governing Conservative Party an issue to galvanise a public (who were now thoroughly fed up with their austerity) as a way to defeat the greatest threat facing conservatism in 50 years - Jeremy Corbyn. Labour, under Corbyn, had done exceedingly well in the previous local elections, signalling the British public's desire for change. He threatened to halt the dismantling of the welfare state by the Conservatives - one of their most fundamental political goals. With Brexit, the plutocracy had a useful little distraction to keep their political party/front in power for a little longer, despite Brexit being contrary to their economic doctrine. Given a choice, plutocrats will always take jam today - it's not about ideology, it's about jam.

Yes I think it would be good to talk about the voter suppression laws. Labour need to deal with them immediately they get into office. It's my opinion as a Spanish resident who is very happy to have an identity card (TIE/NIE) because it makes life so much easier, that they should Not go back to as before but use this golden opportunity to introduce one to the UK, and of course blame the tories. All they have to say is that we would not have introduced it had it not been for the tories law and as we cannot take the chance of them doing it again should they ever get back into office we need to protect the nation against further voter suppression.

If Brexit is an "unmitigated disaster" then why is Brexit still here?

@ab-ym3bf

2 ай бұрын

Because it has long lasting consequences..

@mozartsbumbumsrus7750

2 ай бұрын

Exactly right. We, some of us, still remember Hitler and Nazi Germany, and Stalinand the USSR/Russia and some of us remember Vlad the Impaler, etc. We in the west remember Alexander the Great, but his conquered peoples remember Alexander somewhat differently. The American indigenous people remember all too well what America is. It ain't good. Not only Europe and the Asian continent will always remember the hatred of the Brits but the whole world will remember the evil that the Brittunculi are and do from time immemorial. On the other hand we remember nothing especially bad stuff. We tell each other stories.

@gobnait7855

2 ай бұрын

Because you British are stuck with it.