I remember being the only black dude in my company in 1st Ranger Battalion. You touched on a really important topic when you said most brothers don’t want to join the SOF ranks due to losing so many friends in street violence. I will tell you I have personally heard many say that was the reason or they didn’t join to get shot at or sacrifice their life for some cause they didn’t believe in. My reason for me joining was because I wanted to serve with the best!

@jasonjust-jason9489

Жыл бұрын

In late 90's Aco1/75 sometimes called "aryan company"... The "one black dude" then felt the same way. I know you ain't him, but this comment took me back a ways. Have a good one.

@kobib7806

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonjust-jason9489 that’s crazy I was in A Company

@monkeeatsbanana7397

11 ай бұрын

thanks for your service bro

@robbyrobinson4500

10 ай бұрын

Dude that is a joke. They don't join because they lost friends in the street. Many can't swim, and overall most all special operations guys had a yearning to support their country. No street dudes and most black men do not want support their country. Hell most don't support their kids. It is not a deep seeded reason why blacks don't join. It's much simpler than what y'all are making it. Most black men live their life feeling as if someone owes them something. They don't fee

@Npc1488-wc1kf

10 ай бұрын

'Street violence' No, they lost their lives to stupid behavior. Dont set some stupid abstract innplace of the real reason The real reason is the total denial of any and alll personal accountability Its not some random circunstance, its because youre culture is stupid and primitive and plastic running shoes are worth more than peoples lives

My Pops was the only black man in a LRRP unit during vietnam. He said when he went to jump school with 82nd, there were only 3 black dudes (in 64). He said he got in fights daily. I was an elite athlete in high school (ended up D1, NFL, etc). Growing up my father pushed for me to avoid military although I idolized him. He said I had a better route through sports.

@robjuice7803

9 ай бұрын

Yeah my grandad said the same shit…guys kept calling him boy and he was way older than him but..this guy is speaking on his perspective, which obviously isn’t the stereotypical black American experience so for him, he never though anything outside of his own self until wisdom came along and made it all made sense 😂

@danielvillarreal6610

5 ай бұрын

There’s a book called something like The Soul Patrol about an all-black LRRP team during the VN War. I’ve never read it, but my best guess is that those 5 guys ended up together somewhat by accident. FYI.

@pierresmobiledetailing9888

5 ай бұрын

That is not true. I think you need to read a book called bloods by Wallace Terry.

@salvatoreomerta

2 ай бұрын

A lot of black men served in the military during that period, every picture my dad has of his time in Vietnam has a black soldier in it, every picture.

This is a subject dear to my heat. I was in 7th SFG from 1978-1986. This is when 7th & 5th group where on Bragg. In those days you have to get flash qualified, Rangers wore Black berets then (Showing my age) LOL And I am also African American, what got me interested in joining SF was watching TV shows back then like Combat, The Rat Patrol and what really clinched it was the movie The Green Berets with John Wayne :) During the last few months before graduating from high School I started talking to my recruiter at the time, I told him I want to join the Green Berets. That man looked at me and asked me what did I say? I said I want to join the Green Berets, he asked me how did I know about them and I told him. He said son for one they are called Special Forces and 2 he said do you understand what Special Forces is? I said kind of :) All I knows they are the elite and I had to be with the best! He said son I don't think you know what you're asking and told me to go home and think about where you're asking. So I did but I was determined to get into SF. So I went back to him and told him nothing will stop me from joining SF. I wanted to join 5th group because that's the flash I saw John Wayne ware in the movie. He said son I will make a deal with you, let me sign you up with the National Guard in West Orange NJ the 50th mechanized infantry MOS was 11 B/11C and if you make it, when it's time to re-enlist come see me and I will sign you up to go regular and get you into SF. I agreed, when it was time to Re-Up I went back and he signed me up to go RA and sent me off to jump school :) After that I went to Bragg for the Q-course, I remember my first ruck sack march (Rucken & Running) LOL in jungle boots at that :) Here you have a city kid in the Q-course LOL. I will never forget my instructors going through phase training, they helped every step of the was to get flash qualified, I failed the swimming test the first time not because I couldn't swam because I never swam in fatigues and boots before but I was determined to make it and my instructors helped in along the way. There were 3 African Americans in our class and they made sure we all completed the Q-course after graduation I was assigned to 7th group because the were no more slots opened in the 5th. I am so proud to have serve my country as the SFG soldier!

@sofly7634

9 ай бұрын

Great story on perseverance

@zitiboylilo5789

9 ай бұрын

I’m from Paterson NJ. My uncle died in Vietnam he was a marine. My father, brothers and 2 of my uncles are all Marines as well. One is Recon, the other was a drill instructor then a instructor at their Infantry academy after they’re done with basic I believe it was EOD. He served in Iraq and Afghanistan. I salute you

@tyronmegawatts6580

9 ай бұрын

Learning to swim in boots 🥾 that was fun.

@illuminaughty2929

9 ай бұрын

Yeah right Candy Stripe

@tyronmegawatts6580

9 ай бұрын

@@illuminaughty2929 okey dokey.

Great video : I remember meeting a Black Navy Seal when I was 21 and it was like meeting a Jedi. If someone like him would have come spoke at my high school- I would have tried out for BUDS at least.

@Carlos27thFS

9 ай бұрын

Never understood that mentality. Like I have to see someone who looks like me or I'm not doing it lol. Should of said that to all my blk teachers...sorry I can't learn from you cause you don't look like me lol Huh and all along I thought they were just college educated smart people. It never entered my mind to think of them as different...well except they were way smarter than me.

@MVK_GS

9 ай бұрын

@@Carlos27thFS I think you misunderstand how some people are motivated versus others. It is not simply that someone looks like you by itself; it is that you can feel that you identify as that person, and it is not always just about appearances. Sometimes it is about lived experiences. So, for a young minority, they may see someone who "looks like them" and feel that this person likely went through the same experiences and challenges, and that person may even have the same (or similar) socio-cultural outlook as you. So, you can visualize yourself as that person and conclude that you can also achieve what that person achieved. That you have never understood this indicates that you have a bit of self-study ahead of you. To win "hearts and minds", you need to understand how other people think and be able to operate through that framework to produce positive results. If you are wondering, I am a retired SF veteran who served in SF from 2003 through 2016. Understanding varying perspectives of others is part of the SF job. Otherwise, it may the be the wrong job for some people. Edited to add that I do not presume that you are thinking to be SF. I am just informing in my answer.

@sofly7634

9 ай бұрын

They're bringing drag queens to entertain at high schools

@LBK978

9 ай бұрын

@@Carlos27thFS Do you have a comprehension issues? The entire point of the video was how impactful representation is on motivating people to try themselves. This doesn't mean no black person ever would try, but rather it's going to lead to a lack of interest for many. Most white Americans aren't going to have that issue because they are represented in almost all aspects of society as it's a white-majority country. A white kid grew up seeing white athletes, entertainers, scholars, astronauts, servicemembers, presidents, etc, so outside of one's own ability, a white kid saw all that avenues as potentially valid. An inner-city black kid sees black athletes, entertainers, and many dudes up to no good, which shapes their perception and limits the scope of their appraisal of options to pursue.

@Carlos27thFS

9 ай бұрын

@@LBK978 apparently you can't comprehend.

I'm a 56-year-old retired engineer and former US Marine who never lived in the 'hood.' I grew up in a small southern town. My father was a logger/paper mill worker. When selecting my military job, my father vetoed any job that did not give me civilian job skills. I ended up as a 2871 electronics calibrations tech. I think many black American parents encourage/force their sons into jobs that will help them stabilize their financial futures. If you visit most military service companies, you will likely see disproportionally high numbers of black Americans as truck drivers, HVAC techs, forklift drivers, light wheel vehicle mechanics, and etc.

@tylerfreal6472

10 ай бұрын

lots of folks forget about black Americans that are relatively isolated in white communities, they focus on places where black people live with other black people. then some to have the nerve to say well you dont talk or act black like thats possible

@bigk2198

10 ай бұрын

@@tylerfreal6472 I think you are talking about suburban blacks. We are not isolated in white communities in the south. We have our own communities alongside white communities. Historically, we lived largely among other black people.

I read on a blog from a retired Black Green Beret... He basically said its cultural. The Nationalism and fanaticism that is required to complete these intense/lengthy SOF pipelines is absent with todays young black men because they dont feel like they should serve a country that doesn't love them. Another response on this blog was from a white guy. He said he had some physically gifted black guys he served with. Killed PT, Crushed Land Nav, Expert shooters, team players, could run ALL day. But they would tap out on the unknown dustance ruck marches. Or would freak out when they did combat water survival.

@billgonzales8978

11 ай бұрын

this country FREED them?

@KINGRODP

11 ай бұрын

@@billgonzales8978 What?

@ejc6394

9 ай бұрын

​@@billgonzales8978sshould of never had to "freed them" in the first place

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

@@billgonzales8978 Yes speedy gonzales, my white ancestors fought in the hundreds of thousands to free black people. Black people didn't even really fight for their own freedom much. The Irish and Native Americans all made slavery not worth the price because they resisted and fought for their freedom too much. If you didn't hate gringos so much you would have already known and accepted this.

@user-yb7dt7dz7u

9 ай бұрын

Yup, BG (R) Remo Butler

I agree entirely Jay. I was big Army MP for 6 years and noted the lack of diversity in combat arms MOS. In grad school a fellow student was a retired black GB CSM who had been an MP before going GB. He is an amazing man who it is my honor to know, I have stayed in touch with him, Anthony "Tony" Summerville. He also spoke of the lack of black SOF personnel, and said he would often be the only one, or one of the very few black SOF members at trainings and conferences. Excellent post Jay, the culture is key.

Speaking on my own experience as a Black marine and i wanted to be a marine since i was 6, i grew up in a majority white town and alot one of my friends had a uncle that was in force recon he showed me some pictures and medals and that got me interested in SOCOM. Also i love military history and one thing i honed in on was how the service of Black people in the American military is a huge factor that helped end slavery and Jim Crow. All that to say i gained an interest in SOCOM before i gained interests in sports, music, etc

@TheBashar327

10 ай бұрын

It is a shame how our country treated black veterans of WWII. Even in the military prejudice was hard to overcome. But what I always liked about the military was, and I read later the how General Colin Powell commented on this, it was one of the earliest American institutions to pioneer equality. They say say there're no atheists in fox holes, and in battle there's no time to be racist, and you get an idea of what people's true colors are on the inside. Not always perfect, and definitely not as fast reaching equality as many would have liked. But still at the forefront.

@garymcauley3179

10 ай бұрын

That's pretty much my story too. Except I Army.

@collectivethoughts1379

9 ай бұрын

Military service didn't end slavery. The fact that you could get the same result without rebellion & protest and giving freedom was why.. before blacks were free they had the best minds attacking culture of minorities where you couldn't win. In Jewish cultures they will never serve in military they have options: doctor, lawyer, owner, rabbi. Psychological warfare has been used.. your life was paved before you were a thought.

@Spectonimous

9 ай бұрын

This KZreadr is a Haitian man who pretends to be an African American and doesn't actually understand the reasoning why there aren't many Black SOCOM members. We have different cultures and experiences based on our ethnicity.

@badlt5897

9 ай бұрын

Please capitalize "M" in Marine. Most of us do that regardless of what shade green you were.

I certainly admire your points. My Black Army Recruiter was a Ranger and Pathfinder. If we look into Black urbanites being unable to pass the swimming portion, look into the historic and systemic racism of segregation in the cities and understand -- even to this day, why most inner city Blackfolks don't swim. I'm convinced that even JROTC doesn't actively recruit for the SOF community. "Not everyone who could, would and not everyone who would, could". Here's a point that I'm just putting out there ... There's nothing wrong with Black former SOF mentoring or even starting a nonprofit to assist young folks in the entire process. Give them the benefit of your experience!

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

Your excuse for blacks being bad swimmers is fake science. Most sociological explanations for black behavior are fake science too. Sociology has always been dominated by Marxist activists. Why can you accept that blacks are gifted/superior athletically, but are less gifted and at a disadvantage in other areas of human performance/behavior? It's because we've all be brainwashed by white-guilt propaganda, by our semitic overlords. Here's some real science: Blacks have more bone density, so heavier bones that don't float nearly as easily. Blacks are also much more biologically prone to superstitious paranoia than other races. No doubt that relates to this other fact, that blacks are 10x more prone to schizophrenia than whites are. It's only natural that due to their sky high rates of paranoid schizophrenia, that the race in general would display more superstitious/paranoid traits than other races. The history of Europeans colonizing Africa is the history of 20-50 white guys defeating thousands of African warriors, because of their sky high superstitions. You might also think honestly about all the videos on youtube showing large packs of black guys beating up on 1-2 victims. No surprise that this kind of make up would be lacking in the ranks of special forces. Most human behavior can be best understood in terms of zoology, not sociology. And if we ever started blaming semites instead of white people for every black shortcoming, we would almost immediately be lectured about the biological differences between blacks and semites. Notice that no other race can be guilt-trip so willingly and completely as white people can. Notice no other race is non-tribal like white people are. It's zoology, and the white race has some huge biological weaknesses.

@radamson1

9 ай бұрын

I'm not black but the inability to swim kept me out of SF.

@stormybil

7 ай бұрын

I agree with you but I don't like that explanation being used in these modern days, and here is why: A lot of our brothas& sistas now live/or have lived in an apartment complex that got a swimming pool..(even in some of the worst cities or neighborhoods of this country).. The last 4 apartments I lived at, it was mainly me and my Carribean & Hispanic friends taking over the pool and swimming on a regular basis & teaching those of our people who wanted to learn.. From a historical standpoint, you hit on the nail 💪🙏, but at this point for a lot of Balck people it's a matter of choice& being more concerned about other hobbies..(especially if ypu live in a place that already got a pool included in the rent ypu pay everything month 🤷)

@stormybil

7 ай бұрын

Basically spme.of us gotta stop thinking that a hobby or activity is a "White poeple activity" 😅

This channel has mad, potential for a lot "real" topics especially in military and I think you being on Canadian Prepper was a nice foundation for PR and perception. Don't feel like you're walking on eggshells to appeal to masses or sellout before you even develop. Be authentic with your channel and self just make sure you articulate yourself eloquently to leave less room for misconstrue and equivocation of your thoughts. It will be great to see more interviews of minorities in SOF and JSOC even private contracting. Great work 🤙

@DPham1

Жыл бұрын

100%, there's a lot of SOF dudes who have solid content but they're not covering the things GBC is. This channel definitely got a unique sauce, stick with it!

As being the only black for the majority of my career in 3/75 and in 7th group I’d say I partially agree with you. Representation is everything. When then Colonel Fletcher assumed command of 7th SFG I saw this black man on the cover of the army times. Seeing this representation of an African American in command motivated me to pursue SF. I recently have seen the boom or increasing spike in African American flocking to both the Ranger Regt and SF. It’s not that blacks don’t want to serve in those roles. It’s the lack of exposure to the diversity. For example, my first ODA had 5 blacks on the team. However, you’ll never see this in the movies or on the KZread videos nor the books. But the reality is we are there in greater numbers than perceived by the public. This goes for SF, Rangers, Seals, hell, I even have a buddy that’s a black CCT in the AF What hat was assignment to RRC. Representation!!!

@DPham1

Жыл бұрын

100% agree, a lot of people dog on representation but a young kid or man sees that someone else like him or looks like him is doing a certain job, it enters his realm of possibility and consciousness that the job even exists AND he could do it too. Can't do something you don't even know about. Appreciate you sharing your story and views.

@screamingeagle11b

Жыл бұрын

A lot of dudes in the infantry, assumed there were little to no black guys in SF when I was active duty.... My whole career, other none black black soldiers always told me, it's a good ol boy system and they wouldn't let us in..... I didn't believe that, but that was what I was told even up until recently..... But thanks for sharing the truth

@stancelegendz7531

11 ай бұрын

Aside from your one buddy that was a CCT did you see or know of anyone personally that was a PJ or other CCTs?

@aaronmatheny695

10 ай бұрын

Gen Fletcher is the man! Saw him last on BAF in 2017.

@totalstranger8412

10 ай бұрын

First, thank you. Now when I watch a movie I identify with the hero, not someone who looks like me. I saw the movie the Green Berets and I identified with John Wayne even though I didn’t look like him. I was in the process of being drafted when the Viet Nam war ended, a few years later I joined the Army out of a desire to serve my country and if I was going to join I wanted to be one of the best. I was 5’ 8” and 125lbs. And I had an ego the size of Special Forces. Fast forward a few years I was teaching at West Point Military Academy when one day I was walking across the campus wearing my Beret when these two older black Sergeants came running up to me with tears in their eyes, they began shaking my hand profusely and they started to thank me. Back in the barracks they said the white guys were always saying Special Forces was for whites and then to see me there in my capacity was a tremendous source of pride and relief for them, they could now go back to the barracks with their heads high. I was caught off guard and while I appreciated their support, I was confused, I had had black instructors, all Viet Nam vets so the concept of no blacks in Special Forces was alien to me. I would see blacks in the 82nd, bigger, stronger and probably more knowledgeable than me, but with no desire to accept the challenge of Special Forces because they were of the same mindset as those two Sergeants. I love Hollywood’s image of me being this big muscular type but that’s not the reality. The first thing you need to move into Special Operations is a really big ego, a massive heart and a desire to accomplish that can’t be quantified. I saw big men fall and fail because they didn’t have the heart. The biggest challenge in Special Forces is that it’s optional. You don’t have to do anything if you don’t want too, just leave. If you don’t want to swim in ice water then don’t, just leave. Anyone in my infantry class could be ordered to do Special Forces tasks, Special Forces doesn’t really order you, they just expect you to do what ever it takes to accomplish the task. It’s not about being big and strong, because at some point everyone will meet their physical limitations, Special Forces looks for resourceful people. Why aren’t blacks in Special Forces? First you have to love your country enough to expect to die for it and accept the fact that the military screws everyone over and over constantly one way or another. I was not liked by all my teammates, heck my Team Sergeant called me the N-word behind my back and I had some names for him behind his back, that’s men talk. He needed and trusted me and I needed and trusted him we were Americans against our country’s enemies, It’s not racism it’s the military. And last but not least African-Americans have been convinced that they have to see another African-American do something and get a thumbs up from the community before they open their minds to opportunities. I could go on…

Great video. I served 7 years in a support capacity with Naval Special Warfare (Navy S.E.A.L.s) - I only met four black men in the entire 7 years who were Trident wearing Navy SEALs. I actually know and worked with two of them. These brothers are hard core, I truly admire them both. From my experience being around SOF for that period of time; I think a lot of it has to do with legacy also. Most of the white SEALS I encountered had fathers, uncles, brothers, cousins and friends who were SEALs - so they have a "familial" connection with being an OPERATOR and get insight from the inside which prepares them both mentally and physically for what lies ahead. Also (as you stated); a lot of them grew up in places where learning survival techniques and other things that translate easier to becoming an OPERATOR - the vast majority of SEALs I've met are just country boys. I also agree that black men JUST ARE NOT INTERESTED!! It's not that we can't - it's just that we don't choose to live that life. The reasons why are many and once again - have nothing to do with ability; it's just about desire.

@evisceratorxxx7961

2 ай бұрын

The desire parts debatable. And salute! 💪🏾!

Thanks for touching on this topic. As a 21 Year Veteran (92Y & 35S) I also never understood why our representation was so minimal until this video. I assumed many tried out and didn’t make it. I’ll keep this in mind when making content moving forward to throw light towards that angle.

@GreenBeretChronicles

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and again I didn’t know either, until I spoke with that old time.

Great topic! Another concept is growing up in Black households we aren’t culture to the notion of patriotism given our history in America.

@abramlittle7102

10 ай бұрын

That's the biggest thing

I certainly agree that role models play a huge part. So does a sense of patriotic duty and love for country. In the last 20 years, it seems fewer and fewer black kids feel connected to this country. All sorts of reasons we can get into on that, real and imaginary. Thoughts on the fact that many inner-city kids (of any color) aren't learning the skills necessary to succeed like open-water swimming, climbing, hiking, hunting, tracking, wilderness survival, etc?

@Danhiss29

10 ай бұрын

No, not that. If it were about percentages, then 12% of SOF would be black and 65% of the NBA would be white. It's a little more nuanced than that.

You speaking facts. Majority of the brothers I know would call you crazy for wanting to be on the front lines etc

@jimmyjam5453

10 ай бұрын

It's like giving someone the honor of dying first.😊 Even if you're still going to die a few months later you still don't want the pole position.

As a half black and half Mexican American. I agree with this a lot. Both sides of my family are heavily gang related. I was surrounded by it since birth. 23 now, with goals to joining the army in 2 months and setting myself up for delta force! I myself idolize you boss gave me confidence that I have a shot up there. The problem here is that rap, gang violence, sports ext all are pushed on media way more than anything to do with our military. It really comes down how the media is controlled Media puts a bad imagine on our military. If KZread channels like this got pushed on the algorithm more often then it could reach so many more people that are super bright and can make a huge impact on our military.

@JB-uj8mz

10 ай бұрын

Stay focused my friend that is a tough route but well worth the pain and sacrifice.🇺🇸💪🏼🙏🏼

@narghile7594

10 ай бұрын

Good Luck.

@999Joseph

10 ай бұрын

Thank you boys! God bless

@Bravo-ry9st

10 ай бұрын

From one Blaxican to another, hope the best too you.

@nadjasunflower1387

10 ай бұрын

" mind over matter, I don't mind, cause it don't matter " your brain will tell you to stop, long before your body will quit. Just push through that self doubt, and you'll come through on the other side. good luck

Thank you for an insightful and well thought out video discussing a topic that so many have wondered about. Thank you for your videos!

I really appreciate the video man! I also appreciate the talk we had Wednesday, as well. Happy Father’s Day!

@GreenBeretChronicles

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate it

I was just a medic with the 173rd. Got to know a few Rangers and SOF guys. I always wondered why there was a lack of diversity. This video has some really good points.

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

Biology is the real reason. Biological differences in paranoia, superstition, bravery, empathy, and even bone density. Blacks have greater bone density so they sink faster. And the paranoia about water/spiders/wilderness is very very real and very very genetic. More blacks in infantry just creates more problems and worsens effectiveness and cohesion in battle. Watch Platoon closely, it's based on real experience. US Army did a whole big report on it after WWI. And US hasn't won a war since de-segregation of armed forces. Read this important article, search: "The Truth About Black Soldiers in the Great War" ROBERT HAMPTON • JUNE 16, 2022 Less important than that article is this one: The Rampant Black Violence On American Military Bases ERIC STRIKER • JULY 22, 2023

Great video man. I’m Belizean and Dominican, and I remember being one of the very few minorities in my careerfield. I served as a JTAC for 10 years.

It's good you are doing this. I'm from the Netherlands and respect that you want to make the kids aware that they can join The Special Forces. I will follow you on KZread. I love watching documentaries about military units all over the globe.

Some time ago on your channel, I wrote a comment regarding Blacks joining the SOF community I believe you deleted it because of what I said. I'm African American and I agree with what you said regarding “you didn't care” about the color of your skin I didn't either I just wanted to be a Ranger. Moreover, I was born and raised in the inner city, I came up in the boy scouts and ROTC in high school we learned about the SOF and Spc-Ops in those organizations but, I think these two organizations need to be more visible in our communities. I am giving back as an ROTC instructor in Compton California. I have six students shipping to basic in July two have 18x contracts. Sgt. Love your podcast and I've told my students to watch you

@GreenBeretChronicles

Жыл бұрын

My apologies If I did deleted, Please repost. as long as its respectful to others Ill leave hose comments up

@lawrences2541

Жыл бұрын

@@GreenBeretChroniclesif you are a medium caramel toned Green Beret where are you going to be sent to do Fid that makes logical sense? Yemen? Brazil? Colombia?

When I first got put onto your channel from the algorithm for my 18x research on my reenlist progress … I started to realize you was a BK dude, either from the East Flat or Canarsie. I’m from Canarsie, Bayview Houses on Seaview. I’m a former 19D and I tell ppl all the time; the military is not just a “white mans army” heard that so mainly times from friends & family. But I knew what I wanted to do since 12 & that was to be a Ranger (which I almost became, but life said chill out) & im ok with that until I wasn’t after all these years of being out.. point is, the military is more than what you might thing especially in a Spec Op type of field. My favorite go to is “I joined to learn the skills to have when SHTF .. cause I dnt live in LaLa land and think we will always be safe.” I learned a lot and could learn more on my second go around. That “streets” shit .. I been in it but still knew my purpose and the goal … to come back and teach my community and protect them when shit goes left. Salute to you big Cuz 🫡.. hope to link you one of these days

I was the only black person in my Long Range Surveillance Detachment. After a year, a SSGT from the 82nd came. The unit’s logic was that many of us could not swim so we avoided units like this. The funny thing was when we took the combat water survival test in preparation for Ranger School, many of the white guys couldn’t swim….at all!!😮😂. Irony is something else! Anyway,…RLTW! AATW!

@petechau9616

9 ай бұрын

I took the water survival qualification course (WSQ) as a boot Marine and out of about 200 recruits only 12 made it-I was one of those in case you're wondering, many of the white dudes who failed were from the inner cities (Philly, NY etc)

I’m really glad I found your channel. Lol at first I wanted to be mechanic in the Army until I found out about SOF. Currently in my 2nd month of hard training. Hopefully I make it & can go to 3rd group

Thank you. I needed to hear this. Thank you.

Thank you for this insight. It's appreciated.

I think what you said makes a lot of sense, Jay. I knew a lot of hardcore, excellent black NCOs and privates in 82nd Airborne, probably more than in other infantry units; but fewer in SF. 82nd tends to be where a lot of guys who washed out of SF training wind up (because they wanted to keep their airborne qualification and pay, and that was where they sent you - there are more airborne options now, but back then it was the 82nd or a leg unit). It actually helps keep standards up in 82nd, because SF wash-outs are still highly motivated, probably smarter, and a cut above your average infantry recruits, so the 82nd benefits from the continual influx. Talking with some of the black 82nd soldiers I knew who had not passed SFQC, almost all said they washed out on the swim test. That may be a big barrier, for the same reason you don't see many black competitive swimmers - there are probably fewer public swimming pools in black neighborhoods to learn to swim well, and fewer high schools in the same area with swimming pools or swim teams. Unless you grew up in a coastal area, you're less likely to have much experience swimming. Because the swim test is done in fatigues and boots (at least it was when I went through, probably still is), that reduces your buoyancy a lot. If you have a high level of lean body mass compared to body fat, you will sink faster - so very skinny and/or muscular dudes (which a lot of the black soldiers I knew were, especially after going through Basic, Infantry, and Airborne training), it makes the test a lot harder. But I think what you said is part of the issue, too. If we want more motivated SF soldiers who are black, the Army needs to do more SOF recruitment ads and commercial on social media oriented towards black potential recruits.

@drstevej2527

10 ай бұрын

Are you a child? Most SF training outside of SEALs requires a minimum amount of swim training.

@richardschafer7858

10 ай бұрын

@@drstevej2527 No dude, a good friend and coworker of mine was 1st Batt in the 80's and 90's. He is black, and was an outstanding college athlete. He graduated from Monterey HS near Ft. Ord where his dad retired as a 1SG. Monterey HS has a swim test to pass HS. He said the only reason he passed Ranger school was because he was forced to learn how to swim before he joined the Army. The swim barrier is hella real. 😆 I was recon with the 82nd, and even we had very few blacks. Yes, we had a swim test. 😆

@drstevej2527

10 ай бұрын

@@richardschafer7858 Meaning that you don’t understand the difference between a swim test and extreme proficiency as a swimmer.

@richardschafer7858

10 ай бұрын

@@drstevej2527 No, the problem is still not being able to swim well enough. Simple. Go or No Go.

@drstevej2527

10 ай бұрын

@@richardschafer7858 No it’s that different SF elements have a different focus and different demands. Rangers do not have the same swim requirements as SEALs. One can be a good enough swimmer to make it through Air-force or Army SF training especially non tier one units vs SEALs especially tier one units. The biggest washout factor is the cognitive test in which black candidates don’t meet the minimum basic requirements before they get one day as SF candidates.

Thank you, Jay, for bringing this topic to the table. I often wondered the same thing.

@PrimeTime416

10 ай бұрын

Great topic and maybe needs a follow up? I am curious if this lack of diversity in SF persists in other countries? And also what are the demographics of American SF and are there any trends? Thanks again for the great video and please consider a follow up video based on viewer comments.

Good topic! My father was a 7th group. He was full blooded native american. He voiced some similar views as well. He said he saw more native rangers than native sf guys.

@bernardbarr2354

9 ай бұрын

Older legacy. It fit culturally. Half Native myself.

I think it's an overall cultural thing. Making a home run or key 3 point shot is easier and more lucrative than reading a map. A nice young black guy, here in Natchez, late teens, asked me what happened that I was in a wheel chair. I told him that I used to be a Paratrooper. He asked me what that was. When I was a kid, we PLAYED Army. Rucksacks, everything.

One thing you slightly touched on but I'll repeat is that military service or skill is not promoted within African American culture and we're getting to the point that no martial activity is promoted or celebrated within the culture. The only heroes promoted to AA youth is athletes and entertainers (aka, rappers). It's a long story but all this is being done by design. Great video!!!

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

Quit lying to yourself. Martial activity is glorified and idolized in the black community. Gang banging/car-jacking/mugging/jugging is martial activity, and it is near universally celebrated, protected, and cherished. George Floyd held a gun to a pregnant girl's womb while he robbed her inside her house, with Floyd's whole PLATOON of "soldiers". Ya'll love your gang banger heroes. If infantry and SOF paid more, and came with a free diamond chain and a Dodge Charger, black enrollment would be off the charts* *except for that whole Dont-Be-Retarded test that most blacks can't pass.

@coreymurphy2711

9 ай бұрын

These kids aren't stupid. They won't sacrifice for a country that denies them basic humanity

@goodtiymz8296

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely, the U.S. has been on a 400 year crusade to economically castrate and deskill the American Black man. Of course, the black immigrants are not natives and may receive immigrant privilege and other benefits, so as this KZreadr mentioned, they may have a different experience than the American Black Man.

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

@@goodtiymz8296 Black immigrant privilege is simply not acting like a thug. Ya'll can't figure out cause and effect.

subscribed. 2nd Raider Bn 2015-2019 here. You enlightened my perspective on it. I was the only one, brother for a bit, and in my time maybe saw 5 altogether in that time frame. It never bothered me as well but it does make sense. thanks for your insight

Proper speech brother, stay the course and fight te good fight. Much love and respect.

I'm Air Force vet and the reason I joined the Air Force was because of military movies that I saw such as "The Walking Dead, Glory and Dead Presidents." What I remember most about those movies were how black soldiers were used as decoys or cannon fodder. I develop a deep seated desire to not be cannon fodder hence why I joined the Air Force. I know as a person, who was not born in the United States, you would not know the history of the U.S. military. However, if you were to delve into it, you would see that there a very dark side to the history, when it comes to minorities, dating all the way to the beginning of this country. A lot of minorities join the military to get out of their neighborhood and hopeful get a jump start on a career. Patriotism is the farthest thing from a lot of minorities minds and many consider their active duty time, as a just a job or worse, a self impose prison sentence. Lets not forget the countless soldiers who were actually patriotic in their duty and put their lives on the line, just to come home and be treated like a drug dealer or some other kind of criminal, which literally happened to me, just because they are a minority. With situations like these, minorities are only going to put so much into their military service.

@MikeyLikesIt89

9 ай бұрын

Exactly thank you for pointing that out. These grateful immigrants don’t know a thing and think that because they have white people smiling in their face that their is no racism. I get so tired of hearing these black immigrants who are so happy that massa picked them to come in this country and it goes to their head thinking that everything is all peaches and cream. They don’t know that no matter what they accomplish as a person of African ancestry, in America, they are just another n***a, in the eyes of the majority.

@badlt5897

9 ай бұрын

Yeah how the US Army used African Americans exclusively during the first waves of D-Day/Normandy, Sicily, and Okinawa. Do I have your attention? They didn't want black soldiers in WWI so the French took them. The cannon-fodder idea is one white people failed to do in their systematic abuse of African Americans. Thank god they didn't.

@TheHeyDood

9 ай бұрын

AF also gives the best technical training that translates well into civilian world. The military needs all types. Without Signal, you have no comms...without avionics techs, planes cannot navigate. Without Culinary specialists, no one eats. All military jobs have purpose. Even Ranger Regiment has mechanics, signal, fuel specialists...etc.

@wanaced6

9 ай бұрын

@@TheHeyDood But what use are those jobs, when you get out of service or return back to your country to be not respected? If he returns home, back to the south, which is stagnant with their culture, it really makes no difference.

@shmunkytron8612

3 ай бұрын

“I joined the chair force because i watched too many movies”

I have never been SF but I have been approached by many during my deployments to Iraq 🇮🇶. I’m a Combat Engineer and even in some Combat Mos’s representation is key. I have soldiers that look up to me as motivation. Maybe in another lifetime I might be fortunate to be resurrected and go SF.

@arkvadik8578

10 ай бұрын

I highly respected your specialty Sarge.

@SupaSargeakaQ

10 ай бұрын

@@arkvadik8578 appreciate your comment

Particularly insightful, Jay! Great stuff!

Excellent video, great message.

Jay is right, I remember the day I joined I went in as 11 bang bang and had about 6 young brothers ask me why do I want to serve on the front line? I honestly told them I want to fight and serve my country. No knock on others who chose a non combat mos but my ultimate goal was SF and made it after 3 years in. I was the only black guy on my team but skin color didn’t matter. Definitely think DOD needs to invest more resources in inner cities and stop wasting money on uniforms and JLTVs 😂😂 but that’s my opinion

@dread4836

9 ай бұрын

👍

No matter what real barriers might exist in life, or what barriers we imagine exist, everyone owes it to his or herself to take on any and all challenges to become what they want to be in any organization. I was a newspaper journalist at one of America's biggest papers before becoming a book author, and realized early that failing to attend the same university or not holding the same political views as my liberal newspaper editors could be a death knell on my career. My liberal colleagues seemed disturbed by my college duty in the Marine Corp's Platoon Leaders Class program and my eagerness to cover subjects they were afraid to touch. Although I was "white", I recognized the cultural bias in a once-proud profession that has deteriorated into partisan rancor in recent years. I persevered and broke stories without bias, and was known as "someone who would put his own grandmother in prison." I was often despised by thin-skinned superiors, but I got the job done. Not every place is a serious meritocracy. In the end, your greatest accomplishment will be to perform and produce at a high level against all obstacles.

Just ran across your AO. Spot on commentary and understanding. S/F from an old Marine in Texas

Love it this topic. Great video.

Jay - great topic and monologue. Honestly the best open and honest assessment. I’m learning from your videos that success only comes from what you put your heart into and truly believe. It’s this thinking that is taught in SF.

I think it is better discussed in two categories. Those who want to go SOF and don't make it and those who never seek to try. You are speaking on those who don't try out for SOF. Being more likely to be economically disadvantaged, you are right, we join to escape a situation and better our life. The idea of joining the military and volunteering to make our service harder is kind of lost on a lot of us, as our upbringing was hard, so why continue that grind. One way to attract more brothers to SOF is to promote the extra pay. Getting me to bang my head against a wall for fun is a no go... if you gonna pay me to do it, that is another thing!

@africanwarlord5104

Жыл бұрын

That's a weak point of view , you think all black Brothas is motivated by is money? Naw alot of brothers stayed away from service period for many reasons but one real and serious reason is because it's always been shown and proved that in the civilian world extreme racism exist even though I could care less cause really I'm racist too I don't like them as much as they don't like me but the problem is our people been taking hits and surviving but not throwing no hits back , we too forgiving, we just been standing still and now we devolving as a people but it's still alot of us that got the true God in us and , also yeah the money is a big thing but not just to take care of our families also brothers and sisters feel like why risk my life for a god forsaken country . Real talk.

@otherguyjo1684

Жыл бұрын

​@@africanwarlord5104He's not saying money is the only motivation, but it is a big one. A lot of people join to escape a shitty situation at home. And its good to be a patriot, but pure patriotism won't pay the bills. It's not gonna feed the baby and it won't keep the lights on. It's not crazy for someone to also want more money for taking on harder/crazier jobs.

@steveo1413

Жыл бұрын

Then you're not the right guy for the job. The pay isn't great.

@crooklynx972

10 ай бұрын

I think a lot of people still have ethics and value, They would join but not to go to die for the country, especially when you understand the geopolitical things at play mass intellectual lobotomy etc... That's their way of compromising their integrity. Kinda I'd serve but won't wage wars against people who had done nothing to my country. Let the generals fight for their oil and gold etc.. The excuse of fighting for Freedom is too often linked to ulterior financial exploitation and imperialistic motives.

@Falcon2609

10 ай бұрын

​@@otherguyjo1684Facts

I am so glad you decided to bring such subject to the table. Because when I was Active Duty, I was in a Combat Engr's Bn at Ft. Lewis, Wa and had discussed with my 1SGT about joining the 2nd/75th Ranger up the street. He talked me out of it! I agree what it will take are the young men and women to speak guy's like you who became SOF folks whether Rangers, Seals, or 1 of the Special Operations Groups. Once again, great subject matter this time. Because there are lot of us old soldiers out here-wondering what the hell is going on in the US Army, etc.

Great Video!!!! Thanks for addressing this issue.

@GreenBeretChronicles

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Jay if you want to know about blacks and diversity in SF come to the Old Friends or Legacy Conference in Fayetteville,NC next month. All former black SF brothers from all over the country. We go back to 1959 and have participated in the most sensitive operations world wide. We have been there in all SF communities and continue to serve. The publications, TV, movies all appeal to the masses. That’s why you don’t see us. Again were there!

@markadams2907

Жыл бұрын

That is awesome! Do you all put anything online for the rest of us to read about? I for one, would love to hear about all of you all's experiences. If you all put your stories out there I believe that would help the younger generation give it some thought. Much respect!

@kevinzhang6623

11 ай бұрын

There's a pic of some with John Stryker Meyer in Vietnam, MACV SOG operators

A lot of Eminem's fans were black. A lot of 50 Cent's fans were white. People idolize that culture that is opposite of theirs. Black people who might come from a violent, aggressive environment want a chance to get out of it - they don't idolize it. whereas people who come from a more stable environment may want to experience the thrill. This is what I experienced when I was a recruiter - people from the inner city wanted something safe. People from rural areas wanted the excitement. Additionally, black people tend to come from collectivist societies, whereas white people come from individualistic cultures. Part of that black collectivist culture is the head of the household - the mother. Black mothers already hate the idea of their babies joning the military. But if they allow their son to do so, they don't want them joining an MOS that puts them in harm's way. White people are more independent in their decision-making, especially when joining the Army. Therefore, they are free to enlist/join under whatever circumstances they wish. I hope this doesn't offend anyone. This is just what I've learned and experienced through school and work (education and experience).

@ViewtifulBr080

Жыл бұрын

This shouldn't offend. You were cooking. Hope see more comments with constructivism like this. Great articulation, and data usage

@DPham1

Жыл бұрын

Excellent points and real talk on culture and race.

Yo, you hit the nail on the head, because I always wondered about that.

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The general consensus among the recruiters from different branches after seeing my high ASVAB scores: "Join the Air Force." So I did and served 6 years. It was the springboard to a now successful IT career.

I agree. The Army regularly does SOF demos at NASCAR races, or the big SOF CAPEX in Tampa, FL. Why not do those same demos in Baltimore, Cleveland, NYC, etc. It would open doors and minds, to service in SOF.

@tonyjones1560

10 ай бұрын

Ironically enough, when I was in high school in Baltimore, the 11th Special Forces (Army Reserve, Ft. Meade, disbanded in 1994) performed a simulated helicopter assault onto the football field! This was the late 1970s. I enlisted specifically to join 11th Group in 1982. Virtually all the senior officers and NCOs were Vietnam combat veterans. I learned a TON of stuff from those men…!

@tzodearf2596

10 ай бұрын

I also thought that black's aren't recruited in or out of the service for those positions. Plus, their mammies often discourage them from getting in position to die for this country. And in light of the current state of the body politic, why should they? The rule of law has been outlawed. The military is transitioning, or transgendering. And it's ironic that msny black boys look up to gang bangers busy selling drugs fir the CIA to fund their oprations runming interference for rich, globalist bankers while employing an army of professional gang bangers, or as dude calls them, SOF. All he can do is sell false bravado and the distinction of being considered a bada$$. But to idolize any man is foolishness and symptomatic of a lost soul. No, this country is content with black men waging war amongst themselves until there's a need for cannon fodder in the next unconstitutional, undeclared police action. War is a racket; and in light of this corrupted, dead republic, a bada$$ is about as useless as a tennis ball.

@maxfanin1792

9 ай бұрын

No it wouldn't.

@FLYACEAVIATION

9 ай бұрын

I ran a 4.4 40yd dash 10.9 in the 100 meter sprint. Got hurt playing football and finally joined. Was a straight Pt stud running 12 min 2 miles. Got all geared up to join SF and had an epiphany that it wasn’t worth risking my life and be an absentee father.

@stylishcheng5988

9 ай бұрын

Because it would be a waste of time and resources. Are you serious?

Great discussion I’m glad I found your channel you definitely got a sub.

Very interesting perspective and POV. Makes a lot of sense.

Thank you brother this was well said and as a African American I agree. If more young black kids grew up idolizing SOF the demographics would change.

@indridcole7596

10 ай бұрын

The way to do so is to promote it like how gangs are promoted.

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

White kids don't grow up idolizing SOF with SOF posters on their walls. That's just a lame excuse to defend the differences.

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

@@indridcole7596 You don't get it, and you're a bleeding heart. Blacks admire gangs because there's a lot more selfish gains to be had in a gang. The entire concept of self-sacrifice and service to others requires a biological capacity for high empathy. Google "empathy gene", it's real science. Gangs rape and kill and destroy lives every day but they are still admired, supported, defended, and protected by the black community. Any and every lame sociological explanation is just an excuse designed to blame whites. If any other race was blamed for every black shortcoming, nobody would let that slide. Every race has general strengths and weaknesses. Perfect racial equality is an obvious joke. And notice that we have no trouble noticing the things that blacks are genetically superior at, like sports and entertainment. It's the same deal with women, they can list off 100 things that women do better than men, but they can't name one thing that men do better than women. It's not real science, it's just delusional pride and lack of humility. Just like your excessive pride when you pat yourself on the back for believing in perfect racial equality.

Totally agree. People join for different reasons which greatly impact where they choose to serve.

an interesting and thought provoking video... TY

Thanks for sharing you observations on special operations in the military. I'm a US Navy veteran who served under COMUS MACV in Vietnam. We patrolled from just south of the DMZ to just south of Cambodia in the Gulf of Thailand.

My wife and I stayed at shades of green in May 2023. My father in law is a retired Colonel. The Italian restaurant was really cheap for the quality of food. The breakfast was great. You could always tell the SF, Rangers, and Seals because they are running at 5 am and doing burpees.

As an old White 11B, this is a topic which I have discussed with many of my Black Brothers. Might it also have anything to do with so many Black Americans being drafted into the Infantry during VietNam? Think a lot of guys may have been dissuaded by their Fathers and Grandfathers from going into the Combat Arms.

@user-wd1vd9du2q

10 ай бұрын

I’m also an old 11B Paratrooper who for a time was the only black man in my platoon and dealt with a lot of racism at that time 81-87, and this is truly facts he’s stating! I have never cared about the color of someone watching my 6! Proud to call some of those white dudes my BROTHERS!

@Mocha69A

10 ай бұрын

It's the opposite. The black warrior spirit runs deep. And most black Vietnam veterans in elite units in Vietnam are very proud of being warriors. I encounter many and their eyes remembering there exploits in Vietnam tell me they where fearless.

@colinsmith8584

10 ай бұрын

@@Mocha69A Not questioning any ones Heroism, I for one discouraged my Oldest Son from going Infantry or any Combat Arms. I said get a skill first, then If you like the Army go do the High Speed more dangerous stuff.

@Deontelewis846

10 ай бұрын

You’re not wrong, my pop fought in Vietnam, he was a marine, my dad was a seal. “I’ll k*ll you first” is what I was told when I tried to enlist

@Craig_Narramoore

10 ай бұрын

My Dad joined the Army and got sent to Vietnam. Just a white country boy who wanted to get out and see the world. He was insistent that I go to college and get an education then I could decide what I wanted to do. He was so proud when I graduated college.

Keep it up! You sound like a great community leader.

Great video and information. I'm a Vietnam Veteran born in the Bronx and raised on Staten Island and after my second enlistment remained in California. Please keep up the good work and welcome home!

It’s not just SOF. Before I went SF I spent a lot of time in the 82nd as an 11B and noticed it was mostly white, and maybe a few Hispanics. However, if we marched past a signal or quartermaster unit they were almost all black. I came to the same conclusion: young black guys weren’t looking for the adventure or to test their mettle. They were looking for a solid 9-5. It was even more pronounced when I got to 10th. Nobody was keeping black guys out. They just weren’t trying out. 🤷‍♂️

@Robert-ky4vx

8 ай бұрын

Agreed I was a 11B that happend to be black I've probably seen about 30 in my time but I never cared being the outlier never scared me

Bro, you spent a whole week at Disney world? Was that more difficult than the Q course? Lol! You got balls and grit my man! Also, love the channel! Keep up the great work!

@GreenBeretChronicles

11 ай бұрын

I appreciate it!

Thanks for the video!!!! I am going to write a book about this. I have been in a lot of circles where me and other men in our community talk abut our view of the NFL and NBA... versus organizations that we believe matters most.

Great perspective, keep up the good work.

@GreenBeretChronicles

9 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

Fighting for a country that don't care for you is something most Black Americans understand as being laughable. Most that serve get they coins and dip as they should. Its mostly Non-Black Americans that have trouble comprehending why.

@user-zr1cx1nb8x

7 ай бұрын

How does the country not care about blacks ? go ahead and tell me

Great point about providing more/better examples for the younger generation to observe.

Good for you!!!

Can't remember exactly which comedian said it, but his perspective was similar: "Black people don't do extreme sports as a hobby....because being black in America is dangerous enough. Why would I take up a hobby that might get me killed?" I grew up in the suburbs, went to predominantly-white private schools (pacifist Quaker schools, actually) and I ended up a Soldier and later a Marine Corps officer that considered SF repeatedly. I never thought of the racial composition as much of an obstacle. I always wanted to be James Bond or Captain Kirk, and it didn't matter to me that Sean Connery isn't my skintone. *shrug* THAT SAID......I've met several minority officers who hinted that the Marine Recon community kinda has some racial problems, and that they considered switching services to SF partly because of the more diverse and open-minded reputation of the community.

@DPham1

Жыл бұрын

It's interesting to hear these tidbits about how race plays into certain parts of military culture not because it's healthy to fixate on race (I certainly don't think so & have experienced how it can be a limiting belief) but to know that it is a reality and how to deal with it. I find this is something not a lot of guys in the military talk about too much or just gloss over, and I can understand why.

Remi Adeleke gave an interview where he talked about how he is invited with open arms to come and give presentations to suburban and rural high schools about the Navy Seals, but when he tried to reach out to high schools in NYC (his home town) the schools were totally against it. It’s almost like they are against patriotism or showing black/hispanic youth a career path that will bring you prosperity. Its insane.

@nakedtruth761

10 ай бұрын

I was in A Co 1/75 from 86-90. Out of a 600+ man battalion, only about 5 of them were black guys. However, HQ Co of Hunter Army Airfield, which was across the parade ground from our barracks, was almost the exact opposite.

@RickRoss440

10 ай бұрын

@@nakedtruth761 What unit was at the airfield? I doubt they were also 75th Rangers?

@hansangb

10 ай бұрын

​@@RickRoss440I'm guessing the garrison commander (H&HQ) or the HQ of 1/75. I'm guessing it's the former.

@Eastonwest71

10 ай бұрын

“Bring you prosperity” lol how? Being shot down in some foreign country? Coming back with limps missing, PTSD. Silly.

@apsuaha

9 ай бұрын

It has nothing to do with anti-patriotism. For inner-city schools they have a history of their students being targeted by military recruiters and have been pushing back against the narrative that is the only option. They want a higher college acceptance rate versus a military join rate.

amazing guy great channel love this guy W channel!

Very interesting perspective. Thank you for sharing.

@GreenBeretChronicles

10 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Ehhh....I agree with a small part of this. But lets also talk about how a lot of brothers DO go out for SOF and get "peered out" because they are unalike. I'm an Army veteran and I've heard those stories more often than not. Yes, I was always into protecting my brother to the left and right, we were all green. But everyone doesn't have that mentality. It's nothing for people who grew up in towns with little to no diversity OR bias because everyone Black lives "on the other side of the tracks" in their town and is poor and stereotyped to not want to let brothers in because of that bias or lack of diversity. I can't tell you how many White guys from small towns thanked me and about 3 other Black guys in Basic Training for helping them graduate. I literally had one thank me on graduation day and say "You guys are great people and I wouldn't have made it without you. You're nothing like what I thought Black people were like." I said "What did you think we were like?" He said "You know, all gangster and stuff like on the movies. Like Boyz in the Hood and things like that". I laughed out loud and gave him a hug. Imagine if he didn't have us and maintained his bias? Just because he didn't know any better...that's what I'm saying about the other side of the conversation.

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

You're being dishonest, most black males go way out of their way to behave like the worst black stereotypes. You pretend this isn't true because you're embarrassed. 79% of black kids born out of wedlock. 50% of black "families" are on welfare. Every race has strengths and weaknesses, but the behavioral patterns of each race are pretty much universal across the globe. Africans in Ireland behave just like Africans in NYC or Brazil or Haiti or South Africa and Japan. It's genetic, just like how the athleticism and entertainment talent is genetic.

While there's not a lot of black SOF representation in Hollywood there is some. Unfortunately, it takes on the appearance of tokenism: there was the one Medic in the Green Berets back in the 60's starring John Wayne, there was a black dude in the 75th Rangers in Blackhawk Down, there was one brother in 12 Strong, there was another brother in 13 Hours that wanted to throw down...but he was the cook etc

@slipperydoorknob2173

Жыл бұрын

I thought the black guy in 13 hours was DSS?

@AcePapi60

Жыл бұрын

@@slipperydoorknob2173 there was 2 .. the DSS guy and the cook that the contractors respected Odee. The DSS guy was a bit washed in my opinion.

@kevinzhang6623

11 ай бұрын

Fictional and fantasy but there was the CCT in the Transformers movies, PJ in the Captain America movies. In a movie, nothing wrong with being a cook if he's still a badass. Best representation will come from real life adaptations rather than Hollywood created screenplays

Very solid insight.

great analysis!

There’s not that many Latinos either, but I was like you. I didn’t see color I just did my thing. Bottom line color doesn’t matter is who wants it more.

@lu-bo6yh

11 ай бұрын

@@bruhmanflightwhats not the same

@billgonzales8978

11 ай бұрын

Wrong pal 25 chicanos earned Medal of Honor ? they were Berets Seals,airborn you name it

Made respect for you brotha🫡💪🏾 i tried out for selection, couldn't pass the swimming portion(go figure) back in 97. I regret tryin again, i was a scout so i was able to work with Group guys a little, over many deployments, mostly cordons or some type of diversion for them. You guys were my Avengers, and just like in Group you don't see many brothas. The most i have ever had in one 25-30 man plt was 6. Thats over my whole 21yr career.

Foreal no one wants to put up with the hazing. So many times NCO's take it personal with African American soldiers

@eleveneleven572

10 ай бұрын

Hazing is pure childishness.

@quincysimpson2958

9 ай бұрын

Everyone gets hazed… not just blacks.. I know bc I’m black and got hazed right along with everyone else

Love this my brother 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👊🏼

You build it and they will come. Continue talking the message to them. I never served in the military but I like what you’re doing 😊

Have had many convos with friends on this topic. I see valid points all throughout the comments. I think a big thing no one has really harped on is "get in where you fit in type culture" With majority of SOF units comprised of whites most black individuals don't feel comfortable in that space due to a "frat boy" vibe/mentality within the unit. If you ain't kicking back and drinking beers with the team you receive awkward treatment from team guys. The Air Force has an article about this a few years back on an African American pilot complaining of being felt left out of the flying community via fellow pilots because he wouldn't go along with their unit etc. This isn't just for African Americans this goes for any other minority ethnic group barely represented in jobs/units from pilots, SOF, Intel etc. No saying every SOF unit is like this but select individuals can shape the culture even if the others aren't about it. With all the crazy racial aggressions I see on the daily within the military on the conventional side folks would be naive to think SOF is excluded from this.

@AcePapi60

Жыл бұрын

That is very true … that “frat boy” mentality definitely was a tough pill to swallow most times. The antics was completely weird and “corny” to me. But I didn’t disrespect anybody’s taste in things, as long as they understood im a good solider but im just not interested in certain shit. I been thinking over the years … that non recruiters should advocate more and teach the overall hustle of being in the military. Just like the secret sauce to credit/ finance.

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

You're making elaborate excuses. Blacks love nothing more than invading white spaces. They just can't cut it and can't make it through selection process. Just like in basketball where the white kids get weeded out before the NBA. Blacks don't even go camping or hiking in nature. Drop a daddy long leg spider or even an ant on a black person and tell me their reaction isn't biological.

Great topic that touches me deeply as being a Black SOF Operator since 2003 until i retired in 2019. The first thing that was said to me when I got to 1st/10th SFG(A) BN Aco, I was walking down the hall and this white SF guy asked me what am I doing in this building, support is in the next building. I lost my mind and cursed him out. Throughout the years serving as a SOF operator and mostly being the on Black Guy on the team takes a toll eventually, but it shows how much we have to endure. Speaking on the racist part of SOF, trust me it's there in more ways than one. As a Black guy going through any Special Operations program you have to be twice as good as your white counterparts. Trust me Jay this is a great topic that others just brush over and say SOF isn't racist. We have to look at history on why Blacks have a harder time in the water, when I went to SFAS I actually failed the swim test, wasn't because I couldn't swim I just never swam in BDU's and boots. I failed the swim test again when I went to SFQC, but my Bravo instructor sent 10 of us to the YMCA for classes and I got stronger and passed the retest three weeks later. I served in 10th SFG(A) for over 17 yrs and I have never seen more than 10 Black GB's in a BN at one time, and I've only seen 2 Black GB officers, the problem just doesn't start with us, its also the system we are trying out for. Like I mentioned, this touches home in so many ways and I writing a book on Blacks in the SOF community and the struggles I had to overcome. D.O.L

@stancelegendz7531

11 ай бұрын

@darrellwilson4365 did you ever meet any Black SOF reps in the AirForce (PJ or CCT) because one of the things I’ve seen while training for the pipeline is that the swim portion generally takes us out; and also the lack of representation

@darrellwilson4365

11 ай бұрын

@@stancelegendz7531 I have worked with them a lot, I have never seen or ever heard of a Black one at all.

@kevinzhang6623

11 ай бұрын

@@stancelegendz7531 There was one in a '90's PJ Indoc doucmentary, he made it nearly all the way through but was dropped near the end

@stancelegendz7531

10 ай бұрын

@@darrellwilson4365 I figured smh it unfortunate. Also, whenever you get around to finishing the book of yours I’d love to read it man.

@stancelegendz7531

10 ай бұрын

@@kevinzhang6623 yeah I met him; he came back to the pipeline almost a decade later after switching to the army side to complete SFAS and became a 18D. He became a PJ afterwards and now he’s a Col in the guard as a nurse practitioner. Dude did it all. Though still he’s the only one that I know that became a J that was black.

🇭🇹🇺🇸 Navy Veteran, and I understand exactly what he is saying about those values growing up. Salute!

Very well said. Thank you for all that you do from an old Jarhead.

@GreenBeretChronicles

10 ай бұрын

You bet

Aso, be mindful swimming is an big issue from what I have seen.

Luckily, I had my Grandfather who was Bi racial. I'm not SOF but a Marine for 10 years. He's spot on, and I've thought about this as well. Thanks for sharing.

You are right on point. I grew up in Queens in the 70s, for me was sports and music. I did have a cousin who served in Vietnam as a Marine fighter pilot. He came home with his flight and gave me the coolest Marine poster. I was about 8 years old at the time and that moment changed my world. My goal is to simply introduce aviation and engineering to our youth. Our youth do not see us enough.

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

Your youth don't even see their own fathers.

@soaringspiritsaviation

9 ай бұрын

@@ScoutsHonorBB sad but very true.

Just discovered your channel and subscribed. As a former airborne infantry combat vet (and... white guy, ha!) I instantly connected with your mindset and personality

What you missed too in the who feels at home in the US and division of the "Cake" it's hard to erase the distrust of how the government and army treated the black soldiers back in the day so they won't fight with heart like in the NFL or BOXING will just do enough to get some pay and get by

As a Queens NY boy I agree. To me the military was just becoming a serial # to go to war, I had no clue there were different jobs and definitely had NO idea going SOF was possible for regular people that decided to do something special. As for race and color, as a Hispanic boy from Queens that’s done well for himself all I have to say is race only matters if you mind…if it’s not on your mind it doesn’t matter!

@steveabraham3052

Жыл бұрын

Same bro 👊🏾

@steveabraham3052

Жыл бұрын

I’m originally from Brooklyn, grew up in Jersey. I didn’t know brothers that went into SF. I too “idolized” athletes and such, but didn’t want to even attempt to go that route. I chose public service instead. I wanted to go the military route, particularly SEAL Team. That was not in the cards for me, unfortunately (medical disqualified from military service). I serve my country domestically though. Great alternative by the way. But to your’s Jay’s point… I don’t see race nor do I see race as a limitation. I do see Jay’s point as well as the senior veteran he encountered at Disney. This is a great video. Jay, keep up the great work brother 👊🏾

@loki2stunt

11 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm not Black I'm just OJ...😅😂

@Harlem1mentality

11 ай бұрын

@@loki2stuntstill nigga

@braxtonmoore9246

10 ай бұрын

Yea that don’t work for us. But u know that so why be intellectually dishonest?

This video is on point.

I'm from Haiti as well. We know where we came from and came with a goal. Watched my mum work 2 jobs to get by. I didn't want her to continue working hard to take care of us. So I joined the Navy and became a CTTN and still pushing it everytime I meet a person I tell them both sides of the mil. And try to mentor them putting them through so far got 2 buddies in the USAF.

There are so many other factors that play into the decision making of not being a part of a specialized unit in the military. With me having zero experience of being in the military, I can honestly say at the time I did want to join I was right out of high school and didn't want to put myself in a position to put my life on the line because I knew I had other options. I graduated high school one year after 9/11. Wanting to be like a basketball or football player is not the problem, it's what you do with that money after you get it. To most people that is an easier route out. Me personally, it sounds like a recruitment tactic. You can apply that same mindframe into a lot of other things. It's not just about sports and the military. We need to be pushing our kids on the importance of things like, AI, IT, agriculture, the medical field, and other things that would be more beneficial to people in this country and around the world. We are in a technology era. Skilled trades is where it is. I know the military can help you get there, but to have the constant thought of fighting someone else's war, and putting your life on the line could be a deciding factor on what a person does with their future. There is a very small percentage of black athletes who actually make it to the professional level. Most of them have to fall back on what they went to college for.

@primetimetacticaltraining

10 ай бұрын

We also have to think about a black man's role in this country and his involvement with the military, CIA, FBI and any other government agency. We've had to fight against organizations like that all our lives, just to prove that we were capable of being a part of something bigger than ourselves. Look at who owns the sport and entertainment business. The people who owned and run the show behind the scenes are more excepting of us, putting on a show or spectacle for others to see and paying out a lot of money for it. It's literally a multi billion dollar industry. Again, there are a lot of factors that play into this decision, unconsciously and out in the open. All of the entertainers that he named are all billionaires right now. Why not shoot for the stars? My interest was never in making it into sports and entertainment. I just wanted to be the best person that I could be and hopefully make six figures one day and stay the hell out the way, lol.

@bernardbarr2354

9 ай бұрын

​@@primetimetacticaltraining good points

Theirs is not to question why

Learned something important today. Thank you for you perspective and insight. And thank you for my freedom.

@GreenBeretChronicles

10 ай бұрын

You are so welcome

@schoocg

10 ай бұрын

@@GreenBeretChronicles PS: my son is in the Q course currently.

The diversity Ina platoon in general is something I really miss. Everyone was forced to come together from all walks of life, and sometimes we had a blast.

@ScoutsHonorBB

9 ай бұрын

If your platoon was in real sht like Vietnam jungle you wouldn't be saying that. Diversity tore platoons apart in Vietnam. Watch Platoon again closely and think about the stuff they didn't even mention, like the blacks selling off their supplies to the local Vietnamese.

I think being comfortable in the water is an issue as well. A lot of city guys don’t grow up around pools or oceans.

@DavidLLambertmobile

10 ай бұрын

Correct, this is a big point the late Colin Powell US Army wrote about. Powell was from New York City & got a ROTC commission. He served 2 combat tours in SE Asia. Powell said water ops, swim tests were a barrier to many. Tier 1 units expect you to use SCUBA, boats, deploy from Navy vessels-SWCC. That's a big part of training-selection.