Alright so I’ve been informed SQT is considered part of the total SEAL pipeline, not a follow on school like I was under the impression originally, so we’ll add that in and put the duration to 1 year. I’m still not adding ranger school to Rangers, any of the infill platform schools or SOCM for special forces.

@NYRalltheway14

21 күн бұрын

Marsoc A&S spends a ton of time in the pool and its brutal. My roommate went through A&S

@Lukeclout

21 күн бұрын

Half of CA has to go through SOCM,, now as part of their Q course

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

@@Lukecloutthey should add a phase about embassy party’s since that’s what they spend the most time doing.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

@@NYRalltheway14everything water based is the worst for sure.

@NYRalltheway14

21 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT little known fact MARSOC obv has their own instructors for ITC but for selection they have a cadre made up of active duty raiders but also retired seals, SF, etc as civilian contractors

USAF Pararescue (PJ) training has the highest washout rate in SOF of 90-95%. If you need to be recovered from behind enemy lines, you want the best of the best coming to save your life. “These things we do, that others may live.”

@Dirkdiggl

9 күн бұрын

Navy SARCs are better and cooler

@jeremyfraley6469

9 күн бұрын

​@@Dirkdiggl they don't even compare lol

@Dirkdiggl

8 күн бұрын

@@jeremyfraley6469 they’re replacing PJs for a reason

@martelprayer416

8 күн бұрын

​@@DirkdigglI strongly disagree....

@brucemcdonald6677

7 күн бұрын

As a former USAF, C130 Navigator I totally agree. USAF PJ’s are the best.

I came from the USMC into the USAF to be a Combat Controller. My world was flipped upside down in one day. I got to INDOC in 1999 and weighed 215 lbs of muscle. For context I am also retired 3 time world champion in Thai boxing. I was in incredible shape, tough, determined or so I thought. In one month I was down to 190 pounds. I can honestly say that I NEVER thought I would be able to perform as many physical and mental tasks in single day with no sleep, food, cold wet and hungry. Graduating was an accomplishment. The lessons I took from that course I carry to this day. Plus, you KNOW you can accomplish anything you put your mind to. Even being completely exhausted, sleep deprived, injured, wet and cold it gets done. KNOWING what you that ability to dig deep and overcome the worst of experiences is super power. USAF CCT/PJ pipeline in the late 90's was and is the hardest qualification of SOF. More than an 85 % attrition rate. Minimum of 2 years to finish if you aren't injured or set back. The indoctrination course (INDOC) was based on BUD's. The first two weeks were prep for Hell Week. The biggest difference is after Hell Week the course got harder, standards higher each week with the same events. You only got two attempts at any event to pass. Period. There was a curfew 24/7 regardless of rank, cannot walk during the duty day. No drinking, driving or porn. If the cadre saw you out in town they would drop you, smoke the shit out of you in front of the world. If you were caught you were eliminated and permantly DQ'd to reapply for integrity violation. The pool session were 4 hours everyday of controlled drowning. It was routine for trainees to pass out during the underwater tasks. The pool is where the majority of trainees quit. Friday pool session was guaranteed to get students to quit. Literally, the cadre would not end the session until someone quit. The cadre were pretty solid. You had a few that were complete cucks but they didn't get to influence much. However, if you were a hard worker, wouldn't quit and had issues they would bend over backwards to get youth graduate if possible. I was hurt. Had stress fractures in my shin and femur. They set me back and put me in charge of the Prep team to get guys ready to start training. This allowed me to heal and continue with training. Class graduations were ridiculous. There several classes that only one person graduated out 100-140 students. Most class size at graduation was 3-5 out of hundred of applicants. Keep up the great work. Good to see operators putting out quality material. God bless! JB

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Cool man, thanks for the insight into the Airforce side of the house, obviously working off second hand information so it’s nice when dudes who’ve been through hop in to enlighten us.

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

You really did DO the work. Maybe after reading your post, Marines will humbly learn not to shittalk Airforce folks ever again. Any reason you didnt go STO/CRO instead of CCT?

@joeg5414

20 күн бұрын

I went through Air Force ATC school back in late 2001. My first day on the tower simulator was on 9/11. But yeah, we had combat controllers in my class. I was really surprised to learn they all had to make it through ATC training on top of everything else. That in itself is tough to get through. I mean, not physical obviously....you know what I mean.

@Hell_Hound_Actual

20 күн бұрын

@@joeg5414 Sorry for the slightly long comment, but I genuinely do hope you take the probably 1 minute to read it. Hey, as a former Air Force Special Warfare member (I was in Special Operations Weather Team as a recon specialist / or as they call it today AFSPECWAR SR) I just want to say that regardless of what job someone had in the military, so long as they served honorably and did their job to the best of their ability during the entirety of their service, they get my respect just the same. You don't have to be in Special Operations Forces to be a bad ass in my book. Thank you for what you did as well, because if you hadn't done your job, many of us couldn't have done ours as well.

@ValhallaVFT

20 күн бұрын

@@1anre I worked with CCT’s closely throughout my career, easier to make videos on stuff I actually have experience with.

There’s a reason PJ training is called “Superman school”

@timmybobby4052

20 күн бұрын

And during their pipeline and after id call them fuckwit pogs

Rangers don't have a long pipeline but they raise a different breed. The dude joining the military with an option 40 contact will very likely see combat and very soon. After RASP you'll be attached with some serious dudes with a world of experience and knowledge. You'll be tested everyday. It's a hard job to get and very easy to lose. You'll be a 20 year old Specialist on your 2nd or 3rd deployment sitting on a 47 beside a PJ who is 40 and never been to combat because they were just in training the whole time. Ranger pipeline never ends.

@tomyoung8563

6 күн бұрын

That’s why I loved it We’re down range while the other guys are still in the school house Might be the ADHD speaking but I’m not sure I could have stayed focused long enough for anything else

You should do "Funny Stereotypes" of each SOF Units.

As an outsider with no military experience hearing about our SFs is fascinating. Hearing about your experience is mind numbingly insane. I can't imagine what it's like. I can imagine a minute or two, but constant torture for months on end. God Bless you all. There is none better than the other. You are all fucking Badass!

Having combat dive school in any pipeline instantly makes it so much more intimidating. I recall a USAF combat dive instructor/cadre saying once "I can take a guy who has never swam, and make him a human fish. I can also take the guy that was raised with a pool, and make him terrified of the water." Obviously he was being a little creative for effect, but the gist was there is no quicker way to get wash-outs than to add the fear of drowning into the mix.

“Special teams, special plays, special players!”

A Good friend I train with was a PJ now works with training them. This dude is one of the nicest and most humble bad ass human beings on the planet

@sof.maniac1522

10 күн бұрын

All sof guys are nice & humble, It’s a personality thing.

What about Space Force's Space shuttle door gunner?😂

USAF Pararescue- Even SEALS need heroes

@jacob6187

17 күн бұрын

Ranger regiment already coined that phrase

@willreed6155

16 күн бұрын

Let me guess you weren't one...

@Xyxesss

15 күн бұрын

Look at Operation Red wings because it was the ranger regiment who saved Marcus luttrell

@EdwardHood

15 күн бұрын

Affirmative- 12 years 1D7X1

30th AG is the hardest pipeline in the army.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

This actually has some merit to it, that place was a nightmare

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

What's that

@bradenbagby4431

21 күн бұрын

​@@1anre where hopes and dreams go to die. Its basically where you go to us army Infantryman. It's like purgatory

@Ty-sq7yi

20 күн бұрын

I still remember guys spending half as long at 30th AG as they did at their actual training company 😂

@Matty23134

19 күн бұрын

@@1anreit’s basic training reception for Fort Moore/Benning, so where people in infantry and armor osut initially report to. Sleep deprivation, waiting quietly for hours in formation just for the smallest things, and power-hungry civilian employees just to name a few things. I’ve heard people say they’d rather redo Ranger School than 30th AG.

To help shed some light on the MARSOC pipeline. The MARSOC pipeline consists of A&S (Assessment and Selection) 6 weeks consisting of 2 phases , ITC(Individual Training course) 9 months consisting of 5 phases, at which point you earn the MOS Marine Raider. However you can not go to your team without completing language school, and airborne and free fall usually around 7 months for those. Additionally MARSOC is what's called in the Marine Corps as a lateral move MOS only, so you have to be in the Marine Corps for at least two years before you can even start the process but most commonly Marines will attend A&S around 3 and half years in time service.

@joesgotya9930

19 күн бұрын

Is MARSOC so-posed to be the USMC version of Green Berets? Like are they dedicated to the same charter of Foreign Internal Defense and Tripple A? Or is there a unilateral aspect to MARSOC like the SEALs and Rangers?

@JGould-uu4kb

17 күн бұрын

Finally. Someone with an accurate comment. People forget that not all Special Operations schools are built the same. For example: While it's true that MARSOC is generally structured similarly to SFAS / Q-Course, they do not start language training (up to 6 months in duration) until AFTER they complete ITC--whereas SF starts language training during the Q-Course. Obviously, that alone would contribute to the differences in initial qualification training timeframes.

@JGould-uu4kb

17 күн бұрын

​@@joesgotya9930Not exactly. However, they are certainly more similar to Army SF with UW/FID than SEALs, and certainly more than Rangers. Look at it this way when comparing each in terms of priority: * Army SF --- 1) UW/FID (nobody is better), and 2) Direct Action /Special Reconnaissance * Marine Raiders --- 1) Direct Action / Special Reconnaissance (in no particular order), and 2) UW/FID If you are really interested, I'd suggest reading Dick Couch's book 'Always Faithful, Always Forward: The Forging of a Special Operations Marine'. The book is about 10 years old now. Couch is a former SEAL (and CIA case officer) who was embedded with the Marine ITC class through the whole Selection/Training. He has written similar books for Rangers, SF, and SEALs--so he has credibility. He summarizes the following regarding MARSOC 'Critical Skills Operators' (note: that's their offical title; they were not colloquially called 'Raiders' yet at the time of his writing): * Marksmanship/Combat Shooting-Assault ---- he describes the initial training exceeding the other SOF forces He states "a distant 2nd would be the Rangers, and they're the elite light infantry-Direct Action component of SOCOM." So that should tell you something about the Raiders - note: they fire ~900 rounds/per day during their 5-week Direct Action phase, which is crazy--and several of their instructors are former SMU guys). * Direct Action ---- he describes them as being on par with SEALs (but doesn't really qualify how/why) * Special Reconnaissance ---- he states the other SOF units don't come close (this shouldn't surprise anyone.. they were born from the Force Recon companies). * Maritime (Amphibious) Capabilities ---- he describes them as 2nd only to the SEALS (keep in mind their initial amphibious training is similar to Marine Recon, and SEALs as well). Many Raiders go on to the USMC Combat Dive School as well. * UW/FID -----he states they are close to Army SF, but gives SF the edge. The last phase (Phase 4) of ITC is called 'Derna Bridge' and it is modeled almost identically to the Army SF 'Robin Sage' phase which teaches all things Unconventional Warfare (in the book, the Marines had Army SF has instructors). So, hope that helps. MARSOC is a "full-spectrum" SOF force. They do it all.

@joesgotya9930

13 күн бұрын

@@JGould-uu4kb Yea, I have to admit I wasn’t entirely read up about MARSOC raiders, but reading about their history and evolution as as a organization, i see just pure professionalism. In a lot of ways, id say they are outdoing the SEALs because they’re not feeding into that toxic leadership culture and they understand and respect the FID side of warfare.. They also have common sense understanding of the importance of getting along with conventional battle space owners. Much more versatile organization on so many levels.

I've actually been wanting this type of video.

Great channel and great content, keep up the great work!

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏

I was a 80s/90s PJ. SF Combat Diver and SF HALO were part of our pipeline. Those are tough schools especially going through as an E-3 USAF guy. Immediately after the pipeline, I did SF Dive Sup, SF DMT, SF HALO JM and 3 years as a SF MFFI at Bragg. SF MFFI was brutal. Training never stops, I loved it and I miss it. Yes, I got my ass kicked the entire way and I did HALO JM/Dive Sup multiple times… I got to the 24th STS and training switched to “non-stop”

@na8522

Күн бұрын

Okay but we are talking selection courses not schools bud and you don’t do those schools until after selection . Not sure how the 80s were when you went through but that’s not how it works today

@erichuth117

Күн бұрын

@@na8522 read my original post again, Combat Diver course and HALO were part of our pipeline then 1985.

The SWCC pipeline is roughly 8 months (including CQT). While not as long as BUDs (12 months with SQT), it also includes some of the same challenging evolutions - including water evolutions (not including diving). kzread.info/dash/bejne/nH5hqpqGoNeWZMY.htmlsi=skUJ07llLQDomsZ6

@nathanammon4021

20 күн бұрын

Yah apparently they made it harder maybe more sophisticated

Just had a short doc come across my feed by Black Rifle Coffee Co. (Great coffee) entitled "History of the Green Berets'. Don't know if you've seen this Nate but, it's excellent and it really gives us civilians a concise overview of SFs. Highly recommend. Excellent breakdown of the SF pipeline, thank you for the vid!

Only one I can speak on with first hand knowledge is the Ranger pipeline. I served with a lot of units from all branches and it may get a lot of heat but I can say the Ranger Battalion has some of the highest standards in the military. Hardest job to get, easiest job to lose. I’m sure I’m bias but I believe we are some of the toughest SOBs on earth.

@bluestfalcon419

13 күн бұрын

It’s designed that way. You can take a recruit off the street and get them into Batt in 8-9 months. There are only a few battalions because it’s designed to be a rapidly deployable strike force, so the door must always revolve. The army also wants rangers and ranger qualified soldiers to circulate among the regular army units. This is why regular army loves battalion and why they have a better relationship than with any other army SOF unit.

@williamwells6468

13 күн бұрын

@@bluestfalcon419 that’s true. Big army did along with us better. No hate but some units act like they are to good to help the regular guys. We was never like that b

Thank you for the insight. Very informative.

I came to US in 1996 as refugee from Bosnia after civil war age 18. Joined US Army as 11B and did my time at FT Benning and went back to my state as National Guard. One of few units that has a tab as part of their unit patch. Specialized in Mountain warfare and I 'll leave it that. Full time for 9 years and they called us "nasty girls"))) in boot camp(yeah about that). Well during deployment we were land owners small COP with certain Airborne unit and more specialized, under it kind off. Active Army colonel cried when he awarded some of our soldiers as we have absolutely decimated enemy in our AO and stirred the Hornets nest, also lost few guys. 9000ft of elevation was its own challenge. My unit did better than all active Army units previously and that's why we were awarded Unit Silver Start amongst others. Since I joined when I was 28 I always felt I needed something more and after medically getting out due to injuries and listening to Tier 1 guys and their mindset i knew I should have been 18X vs 11B. Anyway always above others with courage skills maturity and would have fit in great. Regret it still but it is what it is. As a foot soldiers and 11B what I did and s**** I went through would not change it. Loved it and also got trained to DM and 11C, rolles I won medals for. Scored best on DM test etc... Very seldom does anyone talk about infantry and always forget we are the main force that clears bad guys daily vs certain operation at certain times while in between ops they Sun bathe, shower with Oekleys on and drink "green beans" coffees. Even as 11B we have done operations at night out of shinooks etc. Saved some Dust 1 Navy guys...)

@SoldierAndrew

21 күн бұрын

Infantry is where the rubber meets the road during combat. Infantrymen are spending months out behind enemy lines, often getting no resupplies, measuring combat time in years and not in missions. Special Forces and Special Operations guys get to return to the rear after their mission to shower, play video games, grab hot chow, hit the weights, rest up before next mission. Infantrymen aren't going back to the rear echelon to rest, get hot chow and shower. Everyone sleeps on the Infantry but more medals of honor and more decorations for combat come out of infantry units. Infantrymen are truly Embracing the suck down range. And right now, Russia & her allies declared WWIII. Trench warfare will be the face of WWIII and it'll be more Infantrymen going into that meat grinder than any special operations or S.F. group brothers.

@chrishumbert8696

13 күн бұрын

Who cares if you weren’t SOF it’s just a title, infantry boys get the fuck after it, harder mission than special operations day in day out

I was out of the Corps by the time MARSOC was implemented so I can’t speak to that. I can say the Basic Reconnaissance Course in Coronado pushed me to the edge. I blacked out in the pool early on. We did a brutal run, fin, runs on a cold days in choppy water. Boat drills sucked. The term “sugar cookie” gives me flashbacks. However, after Amphibious phase, it was a relief to get back to the field. It was still intense, but for an infantry guy it was more manageable.

@ValhallaVFT

Күн бұрын

I’ve seen the recon course, it looks super shitty. Reminds me of team weak in SFAS.

Hardest part about MARSOC selection is not getting out to do AFSOC or SF 😂

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

I did have two former recon marines on one of my ODAs lol.

@samwertheimer4848

21 күн бұрын

Had a MARSOC officer in my SFAS class. Dude was an absolute stud and all around class act.

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

​@samwertheimer4848 he gave up his commission to become an 18X or he just transferred to the Army at a lower officer rank?

@samwertheimer4848

21 күн бұрын

@@1anre he was inter-service TDY. So still in the Marine Corp but attending the course and then had the choice to switch over the the Army if selected. I think he wanted to drop his commission, but got talked out of it and switched over as an O.

@RemoWilliams-jg4yb

20 күн бұрын

The hate continues.....

Buds+SQT is 14 months if you don’t get injured or rolled.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

If I was going to add SQT then I’d have to have done it to all the secondary schools for the all the other SOF units and it would have just made the video too convoluted.

@adminbusinessdevelopment6220

21 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT Hey great video, question though. Isn’t the equivalent comparison SFAS as a selection course and SFQC as a qualification course where you receive your green berets upon graduation? Isn’t Bud/s equivalent being that Bud/s is a selection course and SQT is a qualification course where you receive your trident upon graduation? My point is that SQT isn’t a secondary school if it’s required for the SO MOS designation

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

@@adminbusinessdevelopment6220 if you want to pretend BUDs is a 6 month selection class and not their qualification course then feel free. Hell week in buds is the typical comparison to SFAS. All these units have courses set up differently.

@stan3943

21 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFTso isn’t it a bad comparison then by the difference between them, since BUDs isn’t the qualification course?

@Jc87134

21 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT agreed buds is the selection course and you still have to pass sqt to earn your trident. I’ll be honest I got an ARI when I was in the navy and they voluntold me to attend Ranger School. I thought that was most miserable course in my entire military career.

I agree. Those guys were very young going through SF Dive and Ranger when I was going through my own pipeline. They kicked ass at PT.

Speaking for Navy only. Buds just gets you through the door. Corpman still have to go through Corpman School, Snipers still have to go through Sniper School, and so on, then there is SQT where you actually go learn to be a seal.

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

Thing is they earn their trident even before they have to go to SQT.

@stan3943

20 күн бұрын

You're correct that BUDs is the initial access school (selection and basic skills), but unless it's changed since the early 2000s, "A schools" like Corpsman happen before you go to BUDs. I know that they created a rate (MOS) for SEALs, so it probably changed a lot of this (all BUDs candidates used to have to pick a rate and go to A School before BUDs). Also, your A school is different than advanced/secondary training, so sniper school isn't comparable to corpsman school. Not sure how often it happens, but it's possible in theory for a SEAL corpsman to get sent to sniper school.

@HawaiianBro808

20 күн бұрын

​@@1anrenot true. I know first hand for SWCC you don't earn pin until after qualification training. I knew guys that passed BCS but got dropped from CQT; some couldn't get down the boat & weapon engineering test or just didn't have the ability to process, apply things in certain evolutions. Every evolution is being evaluated on whether you're cut out to being an operator. Almost certain it's the same for SEAL candidates that some guys might not pass SQT either. The pin is earned after Qualification. I know this cause I've attended SEAL graduations and they get pinned when graduating SQT. From my understanding, SEALs have their trident pin on the wall with their name next to it in SQT for motivation.

PJ's are the only DOD medics that earn the National Registry Paramedic license. As a Paramedic with a Paramedic degree, this school was very tough.

@michaeldbhawker3556

7 күн бұрын

Many 18 deltas go to med school after dude. Pjs medical training is but a fraction of Sof medics.

@powellcpr8747

7 күн бұрын

@@michaeldbhawker3556 The SOF medics are some of the best around. Still, with the PJ'S getting their NREMT-PARAMEDIC license afterwards makes them the best and true paramedic for the DOD. Paramedic school is a two or four year degree and you need to keep above 80% on all tests or you get kicked out. My paramedic class started with 23 students and 18 months later 11 graduated. I worked at the FD with a SF medic from the 5th group, he said that paramedic school was tougher, however, he learned about dentistry, veterinary care and basic surgery as an SF medic. I would agree that the SF medics are better than a SEAL medic or corpsman. Being a NREMT-PARAMEDIC gives you a bigger scope of practice and more medication that you can give.

Hey big fan of the channel! you should make a video on special operations with the best missions.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Ohh. That’s an interesting one. Thanks for the idea.

I had a a highschool teacher that was a USAF PJ from 1989-1996 he was a bad ass dude . Great video tho . He was my highschool teacher in 2006 by the way .

Fair assessment.

I don’t know if you’ve mentioned them before but, Navy SOIDCs go through the 18D short and long medic course and also go through dive school, sere, jump, basic reconnaissance course, field med course and what not in their initial pipeline. Curious on how you would rank them!

The best intro to the PJs is watching The Fat Electrician's video on then... I'm former USAF. If I see PJs in a restaurant & have the money in my wallet, I will pull the wait staff aside and pay for their meals. No question. No need for interaction. These were the people who would die to ensure I got to come back to my family when I flew a mission. With a motto like "That Others May Live" you know they are built different...

Great break down 👍🏽🇺🇸🦅

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

🫡

you need to start adding Special warfare combat crewmen on these videos

you missed Special Warfare Combat Crewman!

@danielnemecek1798

10 күн бұрын

SWCCs do the same training as SEALs

I think it used to be you could stay in underwater demolition or join a seal team. The UDTs were actually a job along with the seals they eventually just disbanded but the UDTs were a thing even after Vietnam I think. I don’t know how much there was to demolish. I suppose they did surveys of the coastline and special recon.

@HawaiianBro808

20 күн бұрын

There's a whole history behind UDTs. You learn it in BUD/s prep. Basically, it goes UDT's are the precursors to SEALs and SWCC going back to WW2. SEALs were formed in Vietnam to be inserted deep into the Jungles, whereas the time UDTs mostly stayed manning the boats, diving, or shoreline demolitions. After Vietnam UDT teams were disbanded, some stayed with boat units to establish the precursors to modern Special Boat Teams, but majority UDTs transitioned to the SEAL teams due to the dive emphasis. There are some rare Vietnam era frogmen we call them "Bullfrogs" who have been UDTs, Boat teams or modern SWCC, & SEALs they have the right to have those warfare pins. A legendary Bullfrog is Captain Peter Wikul, (SEAL/UDT/SWCC) he was part of UDTs in Vietnam era, Boat Teams, SEAL Teams and later helped establish command Special Boat Units 12 & 20.

I was enlisted 82nd and later joined the a Navy and became a SEAL. A SEAL buddy of mine got out, got his degree and joined the Army as an Officer. He was in the 3rd ID, then 75th Ranger Regimental Reconnaissance and then 10th SFG , he retired as a Major. I asked him the same question from his experience he ranked the pipelines like this. 1. SEAL 2. SF 3. Ranger Regiment ( RASP & Ranger school) That’s from a guy that went through all three of them keep in mind he went through the SEAL pipeline as enlisted and the other two as an officer.

@ValhallaVFT

19 күн бұрын

I actually went to the q course with a former SEAL, and he said the same thing, then he washed out lol, so who knows.

@ivicahudika3379

19 күн бұрын

How did he wash out and what was his name?

@ivicahudika3379

18 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT My guess was the guy was probably a SWCC or a support guy in a SEAL Team, not an actual SEAL. Can’t see anyone going from the SEAL Teams to SF unless it was something like Steve Mueller who got commissioned in the Army and then went that route. Let me know what his name was and I’ll check the data base if that washout was an actual SEAL.

@nathanammon4021

17 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT I’ve been impressed with all the SOF units for different reasons. It seems like the difficulty of training or lifestyle balances out. I’ll say this you guys ware off on people in a good way. I got to work for a Vietnam era marine and later I learned my other boss was in SF. It made sense now looking back because everything we did was timed. If we weren’t told outright we knew it was implied. I was very proud of being able to keep up with guy. He was in his 50s and it seemed like his whole being moved a hundred miles an hour. My dad was a sergeant detective and I’ve known how to get along with service people usually when you’re kinda the black sheep you just keep your mouth shut and keep up. Those guys were my all time favorite people to work for. They were tough but fair. We went through probably 100 people in just over a year. I told a coworker once we don’t have a turnover rate we have an attrition rate. When you give people even just a little bit of mental discomfort they brake keep in mind we were civilians we weren’t pushing logs up hills but we were expected to work as a team. It got to a point that he didn’t have to tell us anything if we got a guy that wasn’t pulling his weight we broke him in our own way. This was only when he deserved it we didn’t bully people for no reason. I’ve been biased toward green berets since looking into sf after working with those guys. I’m pretty sure Robin Sage is the most genius training program ever designed.

@MountainVisions

4 күн бұрын

​@@ValhallaVFTyou said it yourself, water is a great equalizer. The Airforce ironically is basically water based, just not sand based like the SEALs/SWCCs. But very similar otherwise. I did watch an interview not too long ago with a PJ that hated land based stuff, loved the water. Said he got sick on the runs. Could do the pool/water con all day. I guess occasionally you get a guy like that who is meant for it.

Likely Delta Force is psychologically the most difficult.They take applicants from EVERY branch of the US military. The Army Rangers, Marine Raiders are similar in difficulty and duration. Marine RECON is a bit more difficult with more water borne components. Army Special Forces often takes applicants from Ranger applicants. NAVY SEAL training is tough but SEAL Team 6 is even more difficult, taking only from SEAL teams those members who've been proven in combat AND chosen by DEVGRU itself. My neighbor was an Air Force Tactical Air Control operator in Afghanistan. He saw action with British SAS, US SF and Navy SEALs.

They are all hard, but I have to admit, AF PJ school is the hardest. “These things we do, that others may live.” Hooah!!!

@joshcopeland1151

20 күн бұрын

these things we do, that others may live. Hooyah*

Would you put SWCC in there as well? Or would that be more aligned with the 160th or other AF spec ops?

@HawaiianBro808

20 күн бұрын

SWCC pipeline is somewhat similar to BUD/s go through BUD/s Prep together, split off SEALs will go to BUD/s, SWCC goes through BCS both first phases are very similar smoke sessions weed out the weak especially after "Hell Week or the Crucible for (SWCC)". However, around the second phase, SEALs will go through the Dive portion while SWCC will go through a phase that has some water survival elements but no diving & focuses more on the boats. But again, SWCC is focusing on boats in final testing evolutions while SEALs focus on diving. Once both finish respective pipelines, BUD/s or BCS both go off to respective training to learning to being more of an "operator" SQT (SEAL Qualification) and CQT (Crewman Qualification).

@ValhallaVFT

20 күн бұрын

Here you go, this comment has way more insight than I could have given.

Any interest in bringing your father on for an interview ? I would love to learn where the mcguyver style level of resourcefulness and problem solving came from and how it was adopted ( I dont know of any other selection where you need to make something to pass)

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

I’ve talked to him about it, we’re looking at doing that sometime this summer.

Ask Wil Willis.😂 Loved his show taking on other sof units.

Great video! I'm curious about your experience: how do 18 Deltas compare to Air Force PJs in terms of medical training and knowledge? And do Air Force PJs receive comparable tactical training?

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

18D are trained in a wider variety of medicine, not just combat trauma. 18Ds learn all of that, plus general med like pediatric, veterinarian, can even do things like deliver babies. So 18D are realistically more trained in that regard due to the job requirements.

@TomCulpepper

20 күн бұрын

​@@ValhallaVFT PJ's are nationally registered paramedics so they get a lot of regular med as well (cardiac, peds, etc). 18Ds are closer to the Physician assistant (PA) level and could run a clinic in the jungle. PJ's are mostly trained to stabilize for until higher care.

@carterblake5620

20 күн бұрын

If an 18D and a PJ come upon a patient, let the PJ do the extrication, let the 18D do the medicine. Pj can assist if needed.

Are SF guys pissed that there has not been a proper A-team reboot and in the movie they made them army rangers ?? (Because I am)

@sirloin9348

21 күн бұрын

Weirdest part is they keep calling them rangers and say they're in the 75th, but when it shows them in dress blues, they're wearing SF patches with Ranger TABS. Just like the rest of the flick, it doesn't make sense. Love that movie tho

@sirloin9348

21 күн бұрын

And no, I'm not pissed and don't know anyone who is. We're used to getting shafted when it comes to PR. At least we have solid snake

@danthelowblood2653

21 күн бұрын

@@sirloin9348 Solid snake was foxhound 😐

@sirloin9348

21 күн бұрын

@@danthelowblood2653 recruited from army sf. I really hope I'm not confusing my fictional super soldiers tho lol

@sirloin9348

21 күн бұрын

Is why the 3rd game is even called snake eater

What is your opinion on SARCs/SOIDCs that get attached to other units like MARSOC?

They don't call Pararescue training "Superman School" for nothing.....

@willreed6155

16 күн бұрын

Dude stfu...hell Ranger school is harder than that shit

Do you think that when Army SOF didn't have the 18X contract the quality of SOF soldier was better or the pipeline itself sorts it out? I ask because having a soldier who has time in and must make the rank of sergeant before applying for SOF would seem to me to add a level of maturity that SEALs don't have.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

18X, in some type of form, has been around since my dad went through the course in ‘69. I think the pipeline handles it on its own.

Love you, BROTHER!!!!!!!! 🫡❤️🇺🇸🙏😢😢😢😢⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

As a soldier, are you interested in military history? What do you think was the toughest operation of all time? The St. Nazaire Raid? Stalingrad? Napolean's invasion of Russia? Bataan? Verdun?

Hey , Nate. What did you get your bachelor's degree in? I see it in the background, but can't make it out.

Out of these I went to Airborne school. Then off to the 82nd. We had a SEAL in my class. So of course I had a ton of BUD'S questions. He already had his Trident. He said he had been to jump school 6 months earlier, but he was really cocky and he got into it with a Black Hat, So he got kicked out. He finished up his SEAL Training then came back.

As Ranger I agree with you. RASP is tough but it’s only 8 weeks. It’s assessing new entry soldiers to be entry level SOF. BUD/s, SFAS, and others are more difficult simply because they are assessing people for more than just dudes who won’t quit.

@na8522

Күн бұрын

Hey bucko who’s your sl?

Would you ever include navy swccs in one of these lists?

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Sure, but if I include every offshoot SOF unit there would be like 25 and the video would be obnoxiously long. These are just for fun, not meant to be deep dives.

Marsoc pipeline is about 11 months to complete. There is a good kick in the nuts like what hell week is, you see a huge wash out during the period. The pool and open water slays folks too.

@nathanammon4021

20 күн бұрын

I haven’t been able to find anything on it if they have like a hell week I’ve heard parts of Marine recon is simple to buds

@arnesmith3122

20 күн бұрын

@@nathanammon4021 it’s not a “hell week” but it’s an event that happens during the pipeline that washes a good portion of the class out. It last two weeks. Also the program is very heavy in the water.

@nathanammon4021

17 күн бұрын

@@arnesmith3122 I’ve read some stuff on different military units it’s seems most have some kind of week with the purpose of getting people to quit. I think there are some police units or units outside of DOD that do that kind of thing to. The only thing I can find on Recon is they do something at the end of each month where they run them non stop. If one training regiment is better or harder I don’t see why they don’t just copy that.

@JGould-uu4kb

17 күн бұрын

That's correct. It's called 'Raider Spirit' and it takes place at the end of the 'Small Unit Tactics' phase. It generally goes 9-11 days, ~ 200 miles of foot movement, with something like Re: Raider training, check out the 'Urban Valor' podcast w/ Don Tran. Great interview, and he discusses much of what I mentioned above. There was also another video w/ 2 former SEALs (one is Stew Smith) who corroborate the details mentioned above---including Selection (A&S Phase 2) having elements of 'Delta' in it (note: the Marine candidates have to sign an NDA as it is classified).

@nathanammon4021

17 күн бұрын

@@JGould-uu4kbthat’s very interesting I wonder how they’ve come about deciding what goes into these events. I know it’s not a complete art and science. Do the branches get together and take from each others training Regiment. Do you think it will end up being just one big commando force.

I’d love to get your take and perspective on the SOT-As.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

I get asked that a lot. I can do a video on that, I worked with SOT-As throughout my entire career. I’ll see if I can get one of my buddies who’s a SOT-A to give me a deep dive so I can do it justice.

@joesgotya9930

21 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT That would be epic man. I imagine that whole SIGINT world is pretty sensitive but anything you could share would really cool 💯💯🤙

@HAMMERTIMEBB

21 күн бұрын

Sigint marine here. Half the cpls here want to go that path post socsf

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

@@joesgotya9930ya that’s part of the issue is so much of what they do is TS it makes it hard for me to know what I’m allowed to say about them or not.

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

Who're they?

The Assistant Secretary of Defense Office for Special Operations and Low Intensity Conflict (SOLIC) publishes a 5 year roll up of training statistics. The difference in eventual graduation rates between all of the training pipelines (SEAL, AFSOC, SF, MARSOC) are within a couple of percentage points when you include the entry assessment.

@nathanammon4021

17 күн бұрын

I read that the attrition rates are very close

We can all agree that coming out the closet is the hardest thing to do. It's so hard that an entire month is dedicated to it.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Well that’s who the real heroes are so I agree with you 💯

@ronb3934

21 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT haha

@asparadiseburns7861

21 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@asparadiseburns7861

21 күн бұрын

Ya, these schools ain't shit compared to that...😂😂😂😂 shits so fucked up now

@nvrbetrwhoohoo3941

20 күн бұрын

Ba-Dat-Dat-TAH!!!

Jason Sweet from @SocomAthlete would be happy to see where your list ended up. You need to go on his podcast and talk about how you prepared and excelled as an 18X and what SF life was like for you

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Not familiar with him or that channel. I’m assuming he’s a PJ based off your comment?

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

​@ValhallaVFT Yeah he is. Owns a company that trains boys preparing to enter any of the SOF pipelines and pretty humble dude

@Bloo22

17 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFTOh you should absolutely get in contact with Mr. Sweet because he is running a special forces prep program (SOCOMAthlete)which is absolutely crucial for seeing one’s potential going into SF

The problem with RASP is people don’t include 11 B/C OSUT and jump school. OSUT is it’s own ball buster. And in reality, at the 75th, until you go to and complete Ranger School, your constantly getting smoked and F-d with. I agree with PJ being the overall hardest. It’s not easy becoming a FAA licensed aircraft controller (CCT) either!

@BrianT175

18 күн бұрын

There’s also preRASP which ends up being a source of attrition both as a PT teat gates event and a source of suck

@Project_31

17 күн бұрын

You’re always competing to stay in regiment.

SARC - Over 95% Attrition in 32~36 months. Both combat dive ie 90% Attrition & 18D is 95%+ are required

Though not typically thought of when people discuss SOF, where would EODs and Night Stalkers land on the chart?

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

I honestly don’t know enough about either pipeline to include them, I would have included the 160th but I duno what their q course really entails.

@yavin99

21 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT It seems like most women can pass the selection so there's that.

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

​@@ValhallaVFTGreen Platoon is also challenging as they're the best combat helicopter pilots in the world. Search for Alan Mack. One of the baddest 160th SOAR boys

SF Green Berets is the best complete package

I think people put too much stock into which one is “harder” They should look into which organization is smallest. They are all arguably very “hard” but which one is the most competitive to actually make it in? That is the question they should be asking in my opinion . Great video!

Seeking to join special operations after college and commissioning through ROTC, is there anything I can do in high school to better my skills? I’ve got my eyes on PJs/CROs and have begun some online medical classes. Just curious if there was anything extra I could do, thanks for the amazing content.

Absolutely clear my bias toward airforce, i thought they all chair based lol. You might want to do oversea special force, I think its gonna be really interesting contents.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Airforce spec ops at least, let’s not go too far, the rest are all still Chair Force.

@SeanLatimer

20 күн бұрын

​@@ValhallaVFT I don't remember any chairs on the flightline as an F-16 crew chief except for the cockpit of course. I can't speak for the other side of the fence tho..😅

@mountaingem6

15 күн бұрын

​@@ValhallaVFT Judge a Force on their lethality not on what furniture they use. A single Air Force Wing has more lethality than the entire Marine Corp. No modern war will be won by small arms fire. Land mobility and sea mobility require Air Superiority. Denigrating your fellow military services doesn't make you macho or elevate you above the rest.

@garyokie4893

5 күн бұрын

AF, nothing but whiners.

i’m trying to go to rasp. i’m currently in the conventional army. do you think a 35 min 5 mile and 2:25 12 mile ruck is good enough?. currently at 70 pushups and 75 sit ups and 20 pull ups

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Pretty close to exactly my PT scores when I went through the q course actually. That’s probably top 30% of the class.

@mcknightdaven

18 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT okay thank you. my enlistment is coming to a end. i’m going to tell them that in order for me to reenlist i want a 100% shot at rasp.

@user-cl6ig3yx9u

16 күн бұрын

That will get you in the door and past day 1... however, that's literally day 1 besides the 12 mile. Make sure you know how to swim. You would be surprised. There is a very mild pool comp, but if you can't swim, you will be dropped. The hardest part of RIP / now RASP is literally all the other days, specifically Cole Range. Every day is a smoke session with training and classes incorporated. You got it, bud. Don't think about getting to a particular physical standard, and think you're good. Just try to get better and improve every day. You'll do great!

@tr1besk8

8 күн бұрын

@@user-cl6ig3yx9u How did you deal with the time and duration of the training/pipeline mentally?

Is there a lot of guys in the sf world that are hard to be around? I’m in the military I’m an 88N and I want to go to special forces, and I always hear from the sf recruiters that most sf guys are “relaxed and chill”. Is this true?

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Tons of different personalities, but majority of SF dudes are laid back.

I may be wrong but ive heard before that MARSOC sends people to BRC before Trying out for MARSOC. Which BRC isnt on par with but probably the closest thing to BUDS outside the Navy

@nvrbetrwhoohoo3941

20 күн бұрын

In that community we call BRC and ARC, “BUDS LIGHT.”

Curious what you think about Air Force TACPs?

@ValhallaVFT

19 күн бұрын

Pretty linear, basically do 1 of the 5 jobs CCTs do. Not to knock being a JTAC, I was one, and it’s a very challenging skill set to master.

Just asking. I know they aren’t shooters. But, what about Coast Guard Rescue swimmers? They jump into stuff nobody else would. Any reason for not including them?

I agree with the Rankings. It was a great video! Also just a question does a sf who wants to attend SFARTAETC have to be Sf JTAC qualifed be4 attending the course? Also Can Army National Guard SF dudes attend that course? Or it more for Active Duty SF????

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Nope anyone can attend SFARTAETC. At least in 1st group that’s how it worked. The only caveat was if you passed you typically have to go to 1-1 C co since they’re the CTAC company. It’s easiest to go if you’re stationed out in Okinawa, for 1st group at least.

@DavidAndrew-dn2zz

21 күн бұрын

I appreciate you spreading wisdom 💪

@DavidAndrew-dn2zz

20 күн бұрын

Hey it's kinda of a weird question to ask but are\Do? Rangers attend the SFARTAETC???​ Is it a often they attend the course or are they not eligible to attend?@@ValhallaVFT

@DavidAndrew-dn2zz

20 күн бұрын

Because I believe the course is more for Special forces and Only special Forces just trying to figure that one out?

You should've researched Navy SARCS.

@bradenbagby4431

21 күн бұрын

Sarcs is no joke

@erics362

21 күн бұрын

@@SneakyWaikiki Recon has a very demanding pipeline and mission sets but, technically, they don't get an official designation as a special operations unit because they don't fall under JSOC or SOCOM.

@nvrbetrwhoohoo3941

20 күн бұрын

THANK YOU! Say it loud for 8404/8425s!

King👑

It all boils down to 2 things: 1) How bad do you want it & 2) What can you contribute to the SOF community. 👊🏾🪖🇺🇸✝️

@toasterpastries5811

21 күн бұрын

I don't want it and I can't contribute that much to the SOF community.

@beanotherbrick

20 күн бұрын

I can make some mean potato de dauphinoise.

@Jenga_Henga747

18 күн бұрын

I cook a mean steak and can crack some funny jokes around a campfire

@kool4209

8 күн бұрын

Slaves obey your earthly masters.

What about Air Force TACP and Special Recon?

You forgot to mention you cannot walk off the street straight into MARSOC unlike all the other organizations you mentioned. I believe you have to be in the Corps for two years before you can go to selection. There’s also a rank requirement, which could be waived 12 years ago for LCPLs in the infantry.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Interesting, didn’t know there was a TIS rule for them. Marsoc is honestly the unit I know the least about overall.

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

The pipeline has been updated recently I think to pick you straight from bootcamp

I know they are not SOF, but what about Force Recon? How does (BRC) Basic Reconnaissance Course compare?

@ValhallaVFT

17 күн бұрын

I’ve been super impressed by force recon marines. Two of my teammates were former recon marines before they switch to army and went SF and they both were some of the best soldiers I’ve ever seen.

Make a video about your experience working with CCT and maybe bring an old cct teammate already retired to talk about cct

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

I could do a good video on that. I have some cool and hilarious stories. All the CCTs I’ve worked with are still active though so can’t do that yet.

@KevinDiazx11

20 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT it be cool to heard those stories 😂

How about tacp's? I know their pipeline is a lot shorter but from my understanding tacp's still integrate with sof some of the time. Is it because they integrate with conventional army as well?

@bradenbagby4431

21 күн бұрын

They so get placed with army infantry and marine infantry alot. Tacps do have a easier pipeline but still not easy. They still gotta do airborne and sere.

@monkeeatsbanana7397

21 күн бұрын

@@bradenbagby4431 Ohh ok that makes more sense. Its like a watered down cct? or they have different mission sets?

@anms2023

20 күн бұрын

CCTs are licensed ATC. TACPs are not . There is also a difference between TACP and SOF TACP. ​@@monkeeatsbanana7397

Environment makes a huge difference. San Diego isn't bad at all in comparison to Bragg, or New Mexico. I'd be a sugar cookie all day and 7x a week staring at bombshells afterwards, than be back at Mackall or go to Husk and Bubbas. I also love the water, so there's that.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

I loved the water too until I went to a dive team.

@AntiFinanceFinanceGuru

21 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT always wanted dive 😂 loved ditch and don never got the chance to

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

@@AntiFinanceFinanceGuru probably my least favorite event lol, honestly hate them all other than drown proofing.

May I ask why you didn’t include Green Platoon and 160th not that I think they would fair high on the list just general curiosity

I'm surprised that Navy SWCC's didn't make it on the list. I'm wondering if they do any Language/Culture training.

Navy’s Marine Recon Corpsman, SARCs, were left out.

Not going to say CA is same level of difficultly but the pipeline is 24 weeks plus language and SOCM if you're a 38W. So certainty not short by any means.

@ValhallaVFT

20 күн бұрын

Getting the absolute bottom spot regardless.

I know this isn’t the post for this because you didn’t want to include the top tiers. I know military guys like to argue who’s has the toughest training or deployments or whatever. It all seems to balance out and they all have very similar attrition rates. Egos aside I was think the most important job right now is what DEVGRU used to do which was test our military installations. I think they might have stopped or passed on the responsibility. Washington has its head so far up its ass like trying to find flight suits for pregnant pilots it makes me worry about how serious the Generals and Admirals are allowed to be. Our power grids really come to mind which involves cyber and some personnel maybe. I don’t know maybe red cell stuff is more suited for SF specifically. You guys know how to think two and three steps ahead.

These boys are all tougher and far better trained than I ever will be. I will say that in terms of casual and consistent bravery, Vietnam era dust off pilots were straight BA. I knew a guy and got to talk to several others.

What about the space farce asteroid raiders? Dey up da club!

I am 18 years old want to go as 18x but i cant for the age,do you recomend me to go NG and then reenlist active duty 18x???

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Anyone with high aspirations and 18 I always suggest going option 40 and going to ranger battalion for a few years to develop yourself before going to SFAS.

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

​@@ValhallaVFTheard Ranger batt hate it when they find our you only wanted to use their Regiment as a pathway to SF. Better he doesn't mention his real plans ro the recruiter or whatever

160th SOAR. 5 week green platoon assessment course to enter. shortest and easiest next to rasp

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

Interesting, is that for crew/support? I can’t imagine that’s how it is for the pilots.

@marksmusicplace3627

20 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT anyone enlisted, warrants and officers must go through the green platoon selection process before allowing to get into regiment

@marksmusicplace3627

20 күн бұрын

@@ValhallaVFT I may be incorrect and may only be selection and assessment for enlisted

@usernamealreadytaken770

20 күн бұрын

@@marksmusicplace3627Yep. Officers go through a different selection process than enlisted. From what I was told by an officer who was in support, the support officer selection isn’t too physically demanding and instead is much more mentally demanding since there’s lots of questioning and psychological evaluations.

So lately my stool has a ton of mucus in it. It smells very foul and has an EXTREMELY sour taste. Any idea what it could be? Should I be concerned?

@Gunga-ct9nz

21 күн бұрын

Is it sweet & sour or more bitter ?

@yeastyg546

17 күн бұрын

@@Gunga-ct9nz not sweet at all. Very very sour. More sour than a lemon.

Respect to the Air Force nerd warriors.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

They finally made it to the top of one of the ranking videos

@1anre

21 күн бұрын

Do they get paid the highest too as they suffer the most to get their red Berets?

@troopdog23

21 күн бұрын

@@1anre they definitely get paid the highest once they leave the military. As doctors and air controllers.

No disrespect to any of these units here but this is my opinion and for me doing research on each unit for me is 1. PJs/CCT 2. MARSOC 3. Navy SEALS/SWCC 4.Green berets 5. 75th Ranger What many special operations units have said about Qcourse and stuff is the difficulty of it. Is it hard fuck yeah it is but is it as hard as people think it is no, if you train before hand and come prepare before the start you should be in good hands, have good morales, know yourself and how to control yoyr wgo and not have a chip on your shoulder, you are in good hands. Whats really hard or the toughest part about special operations units is that you live by it as fucked up as it sounds but if you want to be a good operator your brothers and the mission is your main priority if you think about home and family you're going to die and cost the life of your brothers behind it. The special operations community has this there motto said by Jesus Christ himself "those who live by the sword die by the sword" thats the motto they live by, these guys are the ones who don't fear the reaper at all

I have talked to a lot of people who have been to Marsoc selection and a lot of people pass but have to be hand-chosen based on being liked.

You forgot able the navy SARC they have one the hardest and longest training plus pipeline for growth.

@ValhallaVFT

21 күн бұрын

I didn’t forget just like I didn’t forget the 10 other SOF units not included. Videos would take too long if we did 20 units.

It’d be cool if you included Marine Force Recon with your lists.

@jakubmumford4493

19 күн бұрын

And SARCs on top of that. For Recon: RTAP, BRC, Airborne, Dive, SERE, Freefall

@jakubmumford4493

19 күн бұрын

And SARCs do everything they do plus dive medicine and SOCM

@ValhallaVFT

19 күн бұрын

Force recon isn’t a special operations unit.

for 6 years. SF for 8 years. Did Combat Diver and the Long Walk (Finished but Non-Select). I agree that anything dealing with water will get rid of 90% of candidates off the top. Anyone can walk all day and suck up months of pipeline training. Take away a persons ability to “breath”… Good bye comes real fast.

Ok, how do SARC's stack up against PJ's?

@forgamerd7575

17 күн бұрын

General Discharge has a video on that.

Served 9 years in CA...a lot of my teammates and Seniors were prior SF/Rangers...even a few CAG guys...learned so much that took me far after getting out and I've met some of the most hard (No Diddy), competent warriors from my time in CA...#Biased 😂 🤷🏿‍♂️ #ItsCoolToLikeYourJob

I think if you are going to include HALO etc in the CCT and PJs, then you have to include those schools in BUD/S and other courses to have a real comparison. Would also be interested in having SARCs in the comparison.

@ValhallaVFT

3 күн бұрын

No I don’t because they aren’t in the pipeline itself like they are CCTs/pjs.