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Why did Slim Charles kill Cheese in The Wire? The real reason Slim Charles killed Cheese, after Cheese betrayed Proposition Joe by selling him out to Marlo Stanfield. "That was for Joe."
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  • @sallobo777
    @sallobo777 Жыл бұрын

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  • @muntublackson4757

    @muntublackson4757

    Жыл бұрын

    ahahahahahahahahahah!!!! brilliant!

  • @calvinanderson480

    @calvinanderson480

    Жыл бұрын

    Excellent 😂😂

  • @Asshat237

    @Asshat237

    Жыл бұрын

    Tremendous

  • @Potatoshaneko

    @Potatoshaneko

    Жыл бұрын

    Very good! 🤣

  • @RuckBuckington

    @RuckBuckington

    Жыл бұрын

    Perfection🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @tejashdasgupta1840
    @tejashdasgupta1840 Жыл бұрын

    Prop joe was a businessman who was forced to become a gangster. Marlo was a gangster who was forced to become a businessman. And stringer was forced to be neither but tried to be both. The beauty of the wire never ceases to amaze me.

  • @Mykittenatechicken777

    @Mykittenatechicken777

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow.

  • @Mykittenatechicken777

    @Mykittenatechicken777

    Жыл бұрын

    Great observation

  • @miguelzurita3216

    @miguelzurita3216

    Жыл бұрын

    Prop Joe was my favorite character the dude wanted the streets to he organized so the police can stay away, I gotta respect that.

  • @Supremmo

    @Supremmo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@miguelzurita3216 He wanted to be Lucky Luciano or Meyer Lansky.

  • @kwho

    @kwho

    Жыл бұрын

    That is such an on-point assessment! Almost poetic!

  • @millennial9252
    @millennial9252 Жыл бұрын

    Slim was a true old school soldier and that’s why Slim survived. He adapted to the changing of the guard, embraced the new way but always stayed true to the old school principles. By doing soon he garnered respect of all the players in the game. That is why Slim survived a game in which players don’t last long.

  • @ProjectMathesar

    @ProjectMathesar

    7 ай бұрын

    Survived to the end of this saga at least. The game was still the game at the end of the day.

  • @JimiMagnificent

    @JimiMagnificent

    6 ай бұрын

    Well put

  • @rhyno8644

    @rhyno8644

    6 ай бұрын

    Slim killed Cheese the moment he flat out admitted Marlo shut down the co-op. He worked for both Avon and Joe. He saw what happened to both money and territory the moment the quality of the product stained the suppliers lost credibility. Its what Stringer didn't understand.

  • @michaelcorcoran8768

    @michaelcorcoran8768

    5 ай бұрын

    Some luck, too. Like not being in safe house at end of season 3

  • @devzeppilin
    @devzeppilin Жыл бұрын

    *”That was for Joe” said it all*

  • @AaaaaaaA-pl3zy

    @AaaaaaaA-pl3zy

    Жыл бұрын

    Right, this whole videos kinda pointless lol

  • @GOTIFILMS

    @GOTIFILMS

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AaaaaaaA-pl3zystill a good ass video, and I do believe he popped him because of his snake-like nature like the video said. Slim never liked him for that reason. The way he carried himself and his lack of loyalty.

  • @jerryalexander8803

    @jerryalexander8803

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😂 Right.. He literally told us why he killed Cheese

  • @youreallthesame1594

    @youreallthesame1594

    9 ай бұрын

    I clicked literally just for your comment. I'm not even skipping past the ad promo. Slim TOLD US why 😂

  • @cesarfernandez8779

    @cesarfernandez8779

    7 ай бұрын

    I was hoping someone would say it

  • @careful7951
    @careful7951 Жыл бұрын

    "What the Fuk you do that four. Now we short the nine. That was for Joe".

  • @painblood9429

    @painblood9429

    Жыл бұрын

    "this sentimental mf just cost us money" 😂😂😂😂

  • @roomservicetaco
    @roomservicetaco Жыл бұрын

    I always thought that when Cheese offered the $900k, Slim realized that Cheese was responsible for Joe's death and stole the money from Joe after he died.

  • @MrThehoyce

    @MrThehoyce

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I feel like Cheese having the money confirmed Slim's suspicions that he had betrayed Joe, and so he made his move. I think the other factors may have played into it (Cheese being awful and unpredictable to be in charge and waiting until he wasn't pointing a gun at Fat Faced Rick anymore) but I always had the read that that was the moment it was confirmed, and he wasted little time taking action.

  • @oubimcius4032

    @oubimcius4032

    Жыл бұрын

    Naa he probably knew Already the speech cheese gave made it worse.

  • @primitiveminds

    @primitiveminds

    Жыл бұрын

    Doesn't make sense while cheese was the Eastside re supply so the 900000 would've come easily, it's not like cheese was some corner Lt . Cheese had a huge part in Joe's organization slim was more like an advisor/enforcer for Joe

  • @tallsmile28

    @tallsmile28

    Жыл бұрын

    He knew before.

  • @roomservicetaco

    @roomservicetaco

    Жыл бұрын

    He definitely heard something before. May not have known for sure but was confirmed when Cheese offered the $900k. Or, he didn't like that Cheese was flaunting it or using Joe's money to take a lead position in the coop. More than anything, Slim had to figure that if Cheese could do it to Joe, someone in his family, he would not hesitate to sell out any of the other coop members.

  • @DizzyDaDon
    @DizzyDaDon Жыл бұрын

    Slim was what Bodie called in the first season “a smart ass pawn”… yea Slim was a smart ass pawn, played the game masterfully by knowing when to make certain moves, when to oppose certain opportunities such as declining to b the top man on the West side. He knew not to get too close to Marlo. Slim Charles the smart pawn who made it to the end. Walked away wit the connect

  • @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149

    @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149

    Жыл бұрын

    He made it to the end. But there was one piece he couldn't become. The King. That position belongs to the Greeks.

  • @zoo05zoo

    @zoo05zoo

    Жыл бұрын

    Slim was never a pawn. He never stood on the corners, didn't hold any packages and was always close to the top guys. He was more like a bishop or knight. He was able to make lateral moves from Avon, to Marlo and then Prop Joe because he was way above the street level. You never saw Slim hanging out with guys like Bodie, Poot or anyone at their level. He gave those guys orders, advice and kept it moving in his jeep.

  • @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149

    @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zoo05zoo He actually did try to reach out to Bodie and be a mentor. But Bodie was too damn prideful, hard headed and had a "You can't tell me sh1t" attitude. Bodie had the potential to be more than a pawn. But sadly he had the mentality of a pawn, thus where he stayed and died.

  • @zoo05zoo

    @zoo05zoo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149, to be honest, I really wasn't that upset when Bodie got killed. As noted, Slim reached out to him, Carver reached out and Poot tried to save him. Bodie started out as a kind of noble thug who we hoped would evolve into something bigger but he never did. However, Bodie was accurate to form because like so many other guys on the streets, he simply never changed and died on some random street corner in the middle of the night.

  • @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149

    @bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zoo05zoo And that's exactly what makes him a pawn. He doesn't adapt. He sticks to what little he knows and doesn't bother with anything else. So he's very limited in how he can move. Just like a pawn

  • @toneriggz
    @toneriggz Жыл бұрын

    Slim was smart. He knew that Cheese was a traitorous dude. He wanted to clip him early on but Prop Joe didn’t want to do that to a relative. After Cheese betrayed Joe, it was clear that he would sell anyone out if the price was right.

  • @ysl6549

    @ysl6549

    Жыл бұрын

    @Mr K uncle nephew relationship really not a strong bond im sure most people could live without their uncles

  • @synraheim17

    @synraheim17

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ysl6549 Idk bout that, I love all my uncles. Some of em crazy as hell but still great ppl.

  • @humbledragger6411

    @humbledragger6411

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ysl6549 that’s true but then it’s not … for a lot of dude their mothers brother is the closest thing they have to a father figure so it’s tricky

  • @BigJeffIsInTheHouse

    @BigJeffIsInTheHouse

    Жыл бұрын

    This is it. When he said "That was for Joe," he's saying Cheese is the type who would sell out his own family.

  • @brandonroberts7055

    @brandonroberts7055

    Жыл бұрын

    I can tell y'all didn't watch the show or pay attention. Joe got exactly what he asked for. Set Marlo up to get robbed at poker game and then had Omar rob the co-op re-up. He signed his own death certificate. Can't do that with a guy like Marlo

  • @NOT_Brian
    @NOT_Brian Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, that scene at the end when Slim just blasts Cheese was one of my favorite moments. It's a testament to how good this show was, a dude getting shot mid sentence is a horrifying thing, but I enjoyed the hell out of it.

  • @MisterRlGHT

    @MisterRlGHT

    Жыл бұрын

    Barbaric.

  • @SuperRichyrich11

    @SuperRichyrich11

    Жыл бұрын

    THERE AINT NO BACK IN THE DAY NI**A

  • @josephyn89

    @josephyn89

    Жыл бұрын

    To quote the same actor playing Frank Sobotka in The Deuce, "He talked too much."

  • @NOT_Brian

    @NOT_Brian

    Жыл бұрын

    Seeing Slim in 'We Own The City" was pretty cool.. not gonna lie.

  • @miguelzurita3216

    @miguelzurita3216

    Жыл бұрын

    I gotta respect Slim for avenging Prop Joe. I was genuinely suprised when Prop Joe died.

  • @mariohnyc
    @mariohnyc Жыл бұрын

    "Boy was always a disappointment" - Prop Joe

  • @TheRoc112

    @TheRoc112

    Жыл бұрын

    No Doubt

  • @garyward5515

    @garyward5515

    10 ай бұрын

    But he Treated marlo like a son

  • @lalo80adams71

    @lalo80adams71

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@garyward5515 Marlo wasn't looking for a "father figure"...

  • @pred8r273

    @pred8r273

    2 ай бұрын

    Didn't he almost drown 3 inches from omar's shotgun

  • @daviddedominici1705

    @daviddedominici1705

    4 күн бұрын

    ​@@pred8r273penguin exhibit

  • @chipsthedog1
    @chipsthedog1 Жыл бұрын

    I loved it when Omar got the drop on Slim but didn't kill him, one great character showing respect to another great character similar to the Omar & Brother stand off scene.

  • @jamesw7072
    @jamesw7072 Жыл бұрын

    Slim is a cool character. His loyalty to Avon and Prop Joe was of the highest level even more so than Chris and Snoop being loyal to Marlo.

  • @DC-rm8ww

    @DC-rm8ww

    Жыл бұрын

    He also murdered a child but all in the game

  • @jamesw7072

    @jamesw7072

    Жыл бұрын

    @@DC-rm8ww Almost every character in the show is a murderer. But I make the same statement you just made when talking about abortion queens.

  • @seanburton6904

    @seanburton6904

    Жыл бұрын

    How if he went from avon to joe? Thats betrayal right there... Smh

  • @LetThereBeLightxx

    @LetThereBeLightxx

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah Chris literally took a life sentence for Marlo, that loyalty can't be matched. Spending the rest of your life in a cage for loyalty. Slim can't even be compared to Chris and weebay in regards to loyalty.

  • @liislive529

    @liislive529

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LetThereBeLightxx bro Slim wouldn’t even kill down town Clay Davis

  • @danieljohnson2005
    @danieljohnson2005 Жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see an hour long analysis of Slim, but I think you covered everything perfectly here, and you showed him the respect he deserves. There’s a reason why he’s a fan favorite. Great job!

  • @flightofthebumblebee9529

    @flightofthebumblebee9529

    Жыл бұрын

    I loved seeing him on We Own This City.

  • @damienthomas9239

    @damienthomas9239

    Жыл бұрын

    Y’all need to check out a man’s world podcast here on KZread he breaks down the best by far

  • @thallus23
    @thallus23 Жыл бұрын

    If the co op kept Cheese around, he would have betrayed or undermined them eventually.

  • @Joeri20cm
    @Joeri20cm Жыл бұрын

    Lol Joe literally said to Charles: "Cheese watches the shop, you watch Cheese".

  • @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto
    @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto Жыл бұрын

    Slim has honor, character and a code.

  • @bguzewi0

    @bguzewi0

    Жыл бұрын

    A man's gotta have a code.

  • @nevermindme8922

    @nevermindme8922

    Жыл бұрын

    Hence the reason Omar let him live. Slim was respected by everyone including marlo

  • @SharkZilla-07

    @SharkZilla-07

    Жыл бұрын

    Slim killed Cheese cuz he didn't want Cheese to tell that "the old days is the old days... ain't no back in the day..." theory came from Slim. when Slim was with Joe he was with Joe , when Slim was with Avon Slim was with him...same advive he was about to give Bodie.

  • @vdotme
    @vdotme Жыл бұрын

    Much respect to Method Man. The way I actually felt real feelings of dislike for him as he Cheesed his way through the Wire.

  • @murrayso

    @murrayso

    Жыл бұрын

    Indeed; one could say he's a great Method Actor.

  • @beershits9340

    @beershits9340

    Жыл бұрын

    For real lol especially since I'm a fan of his music and his real life persona

  • @madgavin7568

    @madgavin7568

    2 ай бұрын

    You know an actor/actress did a great job if you hated their character. I have to concur with CineRanter though, I never hated Cheese. In fact I liked his scenes because he was funny as fuck.

  • @FreePlayMode
    @FreePlayMode Жыл бұрын

    Slim is the pawn who became King. He didn't move recklessly, but played his role perfectly. He was respected by all factions of the drug kingpins within Baltimore, but held no allegiances to any one specific territory. He stacked his money, but was never flashy. He observed the mistakes of those above him, and learned from them when he made his next moves.

  • @npc2k

    @npc2k

    5 ай бұрын

    Pawns can't become kings. They become queens. Avon was the king, Slim was the queen.

  • @FreePlayMode

    @FreePlayMode

    5 ай бұрын

    @@npc2k That's the key. Under normal circumstances, you'd be correct. However, Slim Charles changed the rules of the game. He's the pawn who became king(pin). He moved smartly, played his assigned role while making moves in the background. Acquired enough equity and respect amongst all the other dealers, and in a move of pure power at the most opportune time, he took the crown for himself by killing a man nobody respected that had a person they ALL respected killed. It goes back to the episode when D'Angelo is teaching Bodie and Wallace how to play chess in season 1. "You can't play Checkers on no chess board... Chess is a much better game" "If I get to the other side of the board, I become King?" "No... The King stay the king". Slim Charles moved like a chess piece, but used the rules of Checkers at the end. Because in checkers in order to become a king, you need to make a series of powerful moves once you're in enemy territory. He made it to the other side of the board, and was crowned "King".

  • @MiltonMikeCarter
    @MiltonMikeCarter Жыл бұрын

    "Removes him from the chat." I love this expression for murder.

  • @allanragsdale7693
    @allanragsdale7693 Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis! I never put Joe’s warning about money showing up together with confirming his betrayal. Well done!

  • @coreyhall1150
    @coreyhall1150 Жыл бұрын

    "if its a lie then we fight on that lie" -slim Slim really literally was a ride or die for Avon.

  • @njb7148
    @njb7148 Жыл бұрын

    He was a true Soldier and he just couldn't take cheese being so smug about how he sold out his real family love Slim "that was for Joe"

  • @tinobrown4711
    @tinobrown4711 Жыл бұрын

    Cheese made it clear when he put a gun into Ricks face that HE was the leader of the Co-op. Pitching in more than his share too. Slim knew that just couldn’t be and had to take action. When Slim smoked Cheese, HE became the leader.

  • @Exar_Kun
    @Exar_Kun Жыл бұрын

    “A true tower of integrity in a world full of moral midgets,” may just be the best quote I’ve ever heard and now I’m gonna live my life with it!

  • @peaceindarkness.darknessis3494
    @peaceindarkness.darknessis3494 Жыл бұрын

    Everybody needs a slim charles on Sunday mornings...

  • @sickofguysnamedtodd2293

    @sickofguysnamedtodd2293

    Жыл бұрын

    While they taking they wrinkled ass grandma’s to pray. Cause she’s bonafide colored lady.

  • @reasedogable
    @reasedogable Жыл бұрын

    Killing Cheese was a no brainer,he would have been dead if not for Prop Joe

  • @brandonbates9587

    @brandonbates9587

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly lol there is no real reason,it's pretty obvious what the reason was

  • @jwouter
    @jwouter Жыл бұрын

    Hated cheese but loved the way he was played by method man 😂 and he had some of the funniest scenes / lines in the show ........

  • @sickofguysnamedtodd2293

    @sickofguysnamedtodd2293

    Жыл бұрын

    Idk how these h0es be acting sometimes. I’m like either you suck d*ck or you don’t.

  • @dre8463

    @dre8463

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, he had this one hoe pulling guns out of her p#ssy, unc. The shit was unseemly, man 😂😂😂

  • @Crimson28
    @Crimson28 Жыл бұрын

    Slim had a code of honor and Cheese had none. Dude was a snake who’d sell anyone out. I’m positive when he’s getting his little monologue at the end, he was gonna say “Now it’s my time” or something to that effect. Slim put him down like the animal he is. All the other dealers were only mad cause they Slim cost them more money and left his ass there.

  • @LoveAllTrustNone
    @LoveAllTrustNone Жыл бұрын

    String murder ain't no thing, but this is some assassination shit

  • @JnEricsonx

    @JnEricsonx

    Жыл бұрын

    "This is the shit that is WAY above my paygrade!"

  • @pensdrawblood
    @pensdrawblood Жыл бұрын

    When Prop Joe warned Slim that Cheese might pony up the lions share of the buy-in, it reminded me of that scene in The Godfather when Vito warns Michael that whoever is the first to propose a meeting with Barzini, that person is also the traitor. Beautiful callback!

  • @louisdavidson209

    @louisdavidson209

    Жыл бұрын

    When did Prop Joe warn Slim about the buy in? I thought the buy in didn't happen until after Prop Joe's death?

  • @timbnsfs.9275
    @timbnsfs.9275 Жыл бұрын

    slim is what DeAngelo,I hope I spelled right, was supposed to be. The show has sooo many characters that have twins but they just handle and have things go way opposite, if Dee didn't have his mindset, and caused all the problems, he could have been slim, but he didn't have his smarts, lack of ego and code. Also cheeses last scene is great! He's feeling like he's on top and the new king and slim just bang!!! Keeping it REAL!!

  • @okyggtty

    @okyggtty

    Жыл бұрын

    The fact that u compare that weakling to slim makes everything u say invalid

  • @timbnsfs.9275

    @timbnsfs.9275

    Жыл бұрын

    @@okyggtty it's fine you didn't get it, he was a weak fool and arrogant, if he wasn't those things, he wouldn't have lost the tower and got the heat up, but once he was in the pit, he got humbled and started doing way better, and was even giving Bodie poot and Wallace advice, chess game and MC nuggets, but his weakness and ego got in the way, that plus the game. But slim was a top dude for Avon, stringer and Joe. Dee was one of the only people Avon could trust, plus he didn't snitch. The wire is good, we dont need to have some boo hoo argument on KZread you see what you see and I see what I do. That's called good television

  • @timbnsfs.9275

    @timbnsfs.9275

    Жыл бұрын

    @@okyggtty yo, at the end of season 5 , I'm glad Slim was talking to the Greeks!!! have a good day big dogg

  • @danieljohnson2005

    @danieljohnson2005

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timbnsfs.9275 I liked DeAngelo and all, but he wasn’t even close to being like Slim Charles. I mean, you listed almost all of his qualities and then said if he wasn’t all of that, he would’ve been like Slim. It doesn’t work that way. You can’t take away half of a person’s character in a comparison. I could’ve been like Albert Einstein if my IQ was 50 points higher. Other than the whole genius thing, I’m basically just like Einstein. Also, other than the fact that I’m a coward, I could’ve been just like Audie Murphy. Seriously, we’re practically the same person, except he was incredibly brave and I’m not. I’m not trying to come off as argumentative. I’m just saying that comparison is quite a stretch.

  • @timbnsfs.9275

    @timbnsfs.9275

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danieljohnson2005 he had the ties to be there, he didn't have the brains or the it factor but I simply was stating that all opportunities were available to him. But you are the second person to bring this up. I think everyone just hates the guy but that's why he was a compelling painful character. I just love that he didn't snitch and decided to deal with the time. RARE!!!

  • @TheOblake2
    @TheOblake2 Жыл бұрын

    Cheese's death was one of the most brutal kills on the show, i remember the sudden nature of it and the twitching after the fact really freaked me out

  • @uncleshannon1756

    @uncleshannon1756

    Жыл бұрын

    How he just got shot in the head lol

  • @blakefrenick203

    @blakefrenick203

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s kinda like Bodie, one second he’s defending his corner and then he gets dropped like it was nothing

  • @soutcity

    @soutcity

    Жыл бұрын

    Real life violence is shocking like that

  • @Bigdiego74
    @Bigdiego74 Жыл бұрын

    Slim killed cheese on principle point blank

  • @nasirjones-bey6565

    @nasirjones-bey6565

    Жыл бұрын

    This be the principle here

  • @budnbob08
    @budnbob08 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome analysis of Slim always had respect for him the way he treated Cutty..but you’re spot on with the line “That’s for Joe” meaning Joe’s order

  • @primitiveminds

    @primitiveminds

    Жыл бұрын

    From Joe seems more of an order to me he killed cheese betrayed the game marlo wanted cheese and Joe didn't give him up after the robbery

  • @DanielTorres-pw8il

    @DanielTorres-pw8il

    10 ай бұрын

    For Joe doesn't mean an order.

  • @Whatisright
    @Whatisright Жыл бұрын

    I still stand by that Slim is not in charge of the connect. He’s the face representing Avon because “the King stay the King.”

  • @lesterburkes5962

    @lesterburkes5962

    Жыл бұрын

    Never thought about that.

  • @Whatisright

    @Whatisright

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lesterburkes5962 Can go further. In the lines of ascension we all go back too. What would it take for Avon and Stringer, had he lived, to be where Vondas and Spiros are? To operate how they operate? To be able to let things go as easily as they do. Spiros and Vondas are major criminals but do the least amount of killing. Their workers seek them out.

  • @lesterburkes5962

    @lesterburkes5962

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Whatisright I think Vondas and The Greek are interesting in that reality now that you bring it up. Like you know they are capable of violence but they don't because its bad for business so when things get even a little warm they are gone. But not too far just far enough.

  • @Whatisright

    @Whatisright

    Жыл бұрын

    @@lesterburkes5962 The entire show goes deep into various levels of the game. The Greeks who aren’t even Greek are high players and it’s that close working relationship with the law that makes that happen. But on the street how would it look the bosses working with the FBI or such? How do they make that transition?

  • @myninjanews5115

    @myninjanews5115

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Whatisright Greeks where jews

  • @QABRsean
    @QABRsean Жыл бұрын

    Slim bought that DC flavor to the show. Actual street cred. Front man of Washington DC go-go band Backyard. Highly respected in real life.

  • @Void7.4.14
    @Void7.4.14 Жыл бұрын

    I think it was 2 things. 1. Slim seemed like a dude that was in the life cause it was all he ever had, but he was an otherwise decent cat. He did stuff as a soldier that maybe didn't show it, but there was a human being underneath it all. And he learned from Prop Joe that the way he learned under Avon and who knows who before wasn't all there was and it could just be business. Sometimes business was messy, but it didn't have to be and like McNulty said and D picked up - they could just sell the stuff and let the rest be. It also made law enforcement back off when it wasn't constant violence so it was smart business when ya weren't always on that gangster run and gun stuff, which Avon couldn't let go of and it was his downfall. 2. He knew Cheese wasn't trustworthy, not the kinda partner anybody would want cause he was a snake that would cut everybody's throat at the first opportunity. Even if it meant losing the connect it was better than letting Cheese keep increasing his position and causing who knows how much damage along the way. And maybe it was actually for Joe cause he seemed to actually carry a lotta respect for the man. Cheese was a scumbag, but Method Man did what he always does and really made the character something to love even if he was a POS. Did the same in The Deuce, Oz, and everything else I've seen em in really.

  • @Segasedge
    @Segasedge Жыл бұрын

    I knew why slim killed cheese years ago by reading wikipedia, whoever edited the page on Slim Charles worded it beautifully. It was something to the effect of "Slim shot cheese for honor and loyalty to Proposition Joe, in a world where Cheese thought such values didn't exist."

  • @benbenham5017
    @benbenham5017 Жыл бұрын

    A true samurai. A loyal retainer.

  • @arthurdurham
    @arthurdurham Жыл бұрын

    Slim is one of the most underrated characters on the show. Always enjoyed his scenes, especially with his distinct voice. Like most of the gangsters on the show he's done terrible things but he had a loyalty and integrity many didn't. He was a good soldier but clearly had his own code and wasn't always self serving and good on his word. It's why Avon trusted him, why Prop Joe hired him after Barksdale was taken down, why Omar believed him when he said he wasn't behind Buchie's killing, and even why Marlo respected him.

  • @padrajc

    @padrajc

    Жыл бұрын

    Great comment 👍 👌

  • @THEBIGO27

    @THEBIGO27

    8 ай бұрын

    that unique voice is the lead singer for the DC Gogo band "Backyard" and his stage name in DC is Big G. He is DC gogo royalty!

  • @shaner217

    @shaner217

    7 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't say he is underrated when everyone loves him and fully respects him lol

  • @mkn.567
    @mkn.567 Жыл бұрын

    You forgot that Omar pulled up on fat face rick and rick asked him if he was involved in joe’s death. When Omar snickers, rick was like, “yeah I didn’t think so”

  • @dinisnascimento4929
    @dinisnascimento4929 Жыл бұрын

    The Cheese stood alone and the Cheese fell alone

  • @natebravo6804

    @natebravo6804

    Жыл бұрын

    Read this in Omar's voice lol

  • @greenman6141
    @greenman6141 Жыл бұрын

    The thing the Mr CineRanter says about Slim Charles' walk "he walked like he was always walking uphill".......... THAT is such a wonderful line. Really brilliant. In a novel, that quick detail would put so much meaningful flesh onto a character's bones, so much but so succinctly. It describes not just a physical trait (described in an artful way) , something that helps the reader to envision a character, it also contains so much psychology. It is such a damnably damn good line that, god damnit, why couldn't I have come up with it? (hint: I'm not such a good writer. ). I can still PRETEND i wrote it. ....say it in front of family members. Actually, on reflection, that won't really work. They'd spot that it is too good to be something that came from my brain. Damn damn damn. Well, at least I can think of it over and over and enjoy it immensely each time I do so.

  • @yahyehyusuf1969

    @yahyehyusuf1969

    Жыл бұрын

    That Line shocked me too I never even realized till I heard it. What a Great observation. The Wire is Poetry in the shape of a Show

  • @ordinaryextraordinarybrotha
    @ordinaryextraordinarybrotha Жыл бұрын

    Slim is a type of dude that you want on your team and a type of dude that if you was on the lower level of the game you'd want him to be your boss because he's going to do right by you and he's going to tell you the truth but he knew that cheese was up to some nonsense but it should of spanked Marlow as well

  • @JustinMShaw
    @JustinMShaw Жыл бұрын

    The writers may or may not have intended this, but it always occurred to me that he'd already seen Barksdale and Marlo in the position Cheese was aiming for, and he just said no to that

  • @suckmyass

    @suckmyass

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup! Which is why Slim turned down Marlo's offer for new territory. Slim knows that top dawgs get put down eventually.

  • @ckaiborbor
    @ckaiborbor Жыл бұрын

    I love seeing a man from Scotland show love to a DC (I know the Wire is a Baltimore show) brother. And Slim is definitely my favorite Wire character.

  • @jamesmarshall6619
    @jamesmarshall6619 Жыл бұрын

    The thing about Slim Charles, he is principled, he knows his role, stays within himself, does his job well, and because of his history and reputation he can "break" the rules by killing Cheese. No one really challenged Slim Charles because he was fierce but had also built up a lot of goodwill with everyone and respect like that goes a long way so when you decide to break the rules some people will let it go because they know you're doing it for a good reason and it's not just all about you. Cheese had no understanding of this, he had a gun, unearned confidence, ambition, but forgot you need to be more than just fierce, you need to actually earn a good reputation to get people to follow you so he had no friends, no cover, and got taken down by a guy he thought he was better than.

  • @trapmemesgalore

    @trapmemesgalore

    Жыл бұрын

    And Cheese had "the 9" (900,000 dollars)....ALMOST CERTAINLY from his Uncle Prop Joe's stash/savings.

  • @johnpenley
    @johnpenley Жыл бұрын

    Slim Charles = Jay Landsman Fucking brilliant!! ✊

  • @synth3tik242
    @synth3tik242 Жыл бұрын

    Method Man nailed that part so well. It seriously took reflecting to remember that Cheese as a character was so masterfully crafted, that Method Man could transform out of what he is so successfully.

  • @deebojordan7406
    @deebojordan7406 Жыл бұрын

    Big G was a DC LEGEND Before the Wire!!! This role solidified him everywhere else! 💯💯💯

  • @hubblito
    @hubblito Жыл бұрын

    Did you know that Slim is in a jazz band in real life?!?! Crazy to see him playing an instrument

  • @oryx_takerofwill5940

    @oryx_takerofwill5940

    Жыл бұрын

    He is not in no jazz band. He is one of the pioneers of dc go-go music and goes by the stage name ‘Big G’

  • @hubblito

    @hubblito

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oryx_takerofwill5940 thanks!

  • @spencerwyche2552

    @spencerwyche2552

    Жыл бұрын

    He was also shot 11 times.

  • @hubblito

    @hubblito

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spencerwyche2552 what?!?!?! I never heard that before

  • @shadowdoglaw257

    @shadowdoglaw257

    Жыл бұрын

    Back yard band..

  • @Micah_Lal
    @Micah_Lal Жыл бұрын

    Considering how little screen time Slim Charles got, he became my favourite character in the show. Omar 2nd.

  • @nevermindme8922

    @nevermindme8922

    Жыл бұрын

    Slim and bodie are my favorites

  • @garyfrombrooklyn
    @garyfrombrooklyn Жыл бұрын

    That's the brilliance of the Wire, that these types of analysis come up from various characters and events within the show. Anyone seeking to learn how to world build and establish characters, could watch the Wire. The machinations are Machiavellian, Avon discussing with Brother Mouzone about Stringer, Stringer thinking he could elevate the street to a corporate boardroom (both arenas are the same in that respect, backstabbings, ambitions and money, but they remain in their distinct lines), Marlo with his barely concealed lust for street cred (which falters in the end as the two people Marlo approaches on the street are talking about Omar, and don't know who he is). Slim was that charcater, you know was a badass when he lumbered up across the street and shot Fruit's people, and like you said, covered for Cutty (the boxing gym donation scene proves that both Slim and Avon still highly respected Cutty). The only crime committed, we all know, is that this series did not get one Emmy.

  • @MrJahka
    @MrJahka10 ай бұрын

    Makes a 13 minute video to answer what slim literally tells us immediately after killing cheese.

  • @Thestray187
    @Thestray18710 ай бұрын

    Slim does have loyalty to those he works with like when he took the blame for cutty not killing fruit at the time

  • @Paradise2003
    @Paradise2003 Жыл бұрын

    Good video. I assumed that Cheese selling out Prop Joe was an open secret at that point. When Slim said he killed Cheese for Joe. Rick knew exactly what he meant and called him sentimental. I could see Slim wanting more confirmation though

  • @rjamison5154

    @rjamison5154

    Жыл бұрын

    o

  • @warandconquest6522
    @warandconquest6522 Жыл бұрын

    I always thought it was funny that Marlo sold the Connect for 10 million. As if the supply all the sudden dried up the Greeks wouldn’t reach out to Slim in like a week. All they had to do was wait

  • @Sasso-pf1mo

    @Sasso-pf1mo

    Жыл бұрын

    The Greeks didn't know slim.. They had only dealt with Joe and then marlo

  • @yaqubebased1961
    @yaqubebased1961 Жыл бұрын

    Charles knew it was Cutty who hesitated, but still stuck his neck out for him out of his reputation as an elder. Respect is earned and earned respect means something, and Slim knows that more than anyone when he sees how much respect Avon has for Cutty.

  • @OnYourSquare

    @OnYourSquare

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't put it past him to do that, step up and take the blame. But I don't think that was the case. When Slim meets Cutty in the alley, Slim is genuinely frustrated that he may have messed things up.

  • @pitchbridgeblack9380
    @pitchbridgeblack9380 Жыл бұрын

    I must say. I love. when you explained these show. you do such a beautiful job. you are a master at this. the best so far

  • @honestbrute9216
    @honestbrute9216 Жыл бұрын

    Slim is played by Anwan Glover…we call him “Big G” here in DC…he’s the frontman for one of the biggest Go-Go bands ever…he’s also a legit street dude..pretty much the guy you see on TV…not a hard guy to find in the streets to this day..

  • @johnbakker4828
    @johnbakker4828 Жыл бұрын

    Slim means smart in Dutch. And Charles definitely was. Great character, one of my favorites.

  • @althompson342
    @althompson342 Жыл бұрын

    He literally said "THAT WAS FOR JOE"

  • @amirikiri4112

    @amirikiri4112

    Жыл бұрын

    Definitely did

  • @wynrick1
    @wynrick14 ай бұрын

    He literally said why…”That’s for Joe”.

  • @Dre_savage
    @Dre_savage Жыл бұрын

    Cheese gave up his uncle prop Joe that’s the only way he could’ve had $900k. Slim put two and two together

  • @TheSuirad
    @TheSuirad Жыл бұрын

    "That was for Joe..."

  • @nathaniel972ful
    @nathaniel972ful3 ай бұрын

    Slim was one of those "good enough" people. Everything suits him. He was good enough as a soldier, good enough as a manager, as a right hand man and probably so as a leader. He was a good listener, never much of a talker. Mostly nodded his head yes or no and kept it moving, rather nonchalantly. He never spoke out of turn, no fussing , just short answers/comments but yet always informative. He wasn't particularly violent or particularly nice to people. Just did enough to get by. No-one seemed to hate him, or even really paid attention to him. But he got by, and got to the top spot without making any noise. I saw him as a big tall goofy at 1st, but he really was a genius in his own way.

  • @CastleBlackWatches
    @CastleBlackWatches Жыл бұрын

    My favorite scene is when Slim laments at the shooting of Omar and his grandma on Sunday. Talking about her Church/Sunday Crown

  • @trublulonestar4o9
    @trublulonestar4o9 Жыл бұрын

    For Prop Joe...the end. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤣🤣🤣

  • @Scambityfactsteam
    @Scambityfactsteam Жыл бұрын

    Cheese sold out Butchie the whole reason for Joe leaving in the first damn place

  • @OG-Capo---
    @OG-Capo--- Жыл бұрын

    Love you content mane! 💪🏻💯

  • @diligentsun1154
    @diligentsun1154 Жыл бұрын

    Your analyses are always interesting.

  • @trentondaily405
    @trentondaily405 Жыл бұрын

    I think another factor for Slim was that by having Cheese in the co-op, Marlo would still have a hand in things. Whether directly or indirectly, by having Cheese pass information to Marlo. With so many factors to consider, killing Cheese was the only option.

  • @dezt4903
    @dezt4903 Жыл бұрын

    Cheese really turned on his blood uncle. “Keep your business and family COMPLETELY separated”

  • @giftedx1391
    @giftedx1391 Жыл бұрын

    What was so great about the Wire is after some time, you realize it didnt matter who the character was, how much he was loved, anybody could die at anytime. The setting wouldnt even make you think anything would happen sometimes then all of a sudden it just happens.

  • @Kicksncoffee1983
    @Kicksncoffee1983 Жыл бұрын

    I noticed something the big dude that is sitting next to Slim Charles at the end talking to the Greek is maybe co head of the Co Op because he was the only one other than Slim that stood up to Cheese in regards to Prop Joe. That’s why Cheese put a gun to his head before he was killed. I love that we can still find little details in a great show years after it ended. Great analysis!

  • @seanyoung9014

    @seanyoung9014

    Жыл бұрын

    That's Fat Face Rick. After Stringer, Joe, Marlo and Cheese, he was the biggest guy in the co op. The problem for Rick is that he inexplicably lacked any muscle at all which is where Slim would've seen an opportunity for himself. It's almost like Avon and Stringer with the positions reversed.

  • @dogecoinbrothermouzone2500
    @dogecoinbrothermouzone2500 Жыл бұрын

    SLIM DEFINITELY MADE ALL THE RIGHT MOVES 💯🤞🏿

  • @PiffFighting
    @PiffFighting Жыл бұрын

    Slim already had the connect through Joe and Marlo only got it through Avon so Marlo never got paid

  • @davidk6269
    @davidk626911 ай бұрын

    Slim Charles was one of my favorite characters in the Wire. I was very happy that he survived the entire series.

  • @RBrown-kv4uu
    @RBrown-kv4uu Жыл бұрын

    Splendid break down my friend here here!

  • @freeplax17
    @freeplax17 Жыл бұрын

    Cheese clipped his own uncle who showed Cheese nothing but love and loyalty. Slim Charles knew Cheese could not be trusted...

  • @Allavil_
    @Allavil_ Жыл бұрын

    The fact this video isn’t sponsored by Slim Jims is outrageous.

  • @fatman957

    @fatman957

    Жыл бұрын

    They should make a slim Jim with the cheese on the side like other beef sticks do.

  • @smokie01uk
    @smokie01uk Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis, love your content 👍

  • @smokie01uk

    @smokie01uk

    Жыл бұрын

    I would really enjoy a breakdown of the character 'Poot' for one of your videos. He is one of the few characters to make it out of the game, but unsure whether it was through luck or judgement. He is very grounded and has no illusions about the life he leads, he's almost a study of stoicism?

  • @TRontheLegacy
    @TRontheLegacy Жыл бұрын

    Proposition Joe had already told slim that cheese was not to be trusted, one of the last things he said to slim was cheese is going to watch the shop, and you watch cheese. So slim knew what type of file individual cheese was

  • @Omarley76
    @Omarley76 Жыл бұрын

    Slim , the smart pawn 💯💪🏾

  • @sinane.y
    @sinane.y Жыл бұрын

    "Charles killing Cheese" is a very soothing sentence

  • @coachchrisekwueme
    @coachchrisekwueme9 ай бұрын

    I played Cheese's "Muscle" in Season 5 when he got caught w the re-up.. My buddy was the driver. He was out there with no muscle because my character was still locked up. They shot a scene where me and Chris Partlow's muscle were running the yard... but it got cut.

  • @leondreamcast
    @leondreamcast Жыл бұрын

    It’s simple Cheese went against his own blood for points in a package under Marlo. Slim has a code.

  • @Striperbass2
    @Striperbass2 Жыл бұрын

    I think a character named "Cheese" is predisposed to a negative outcome..lol...The Wire is in my top 5 best series of all time, watched it many times. What makes a show timeless is that the characters play their rolls so well; you don't see an actor u see the character. Seems logical, but it's not always the case. Every actor in The Wire, in my opinion, played their characters perfectly. The theme/ topic almost doesn't seem to matter. In All In The Family, I still see Archie and Michael Stivic....brilliant. Accolades to the casting crew! (And Snoop? brilliant, yamean??)

  • @Toasted1337
    @Toasted1337 Жыл бұрын

    4:37 He manuged to get the drip on him.

  • @Brandon-a-writer
    @Brandon-a-writer10 ай бұрын

    CR -- rewatching these videos after seeing the wire is a joy. It's without flaw man, so good

  • @jsull81
    @jsull81 Жыл бұрын

    I always like slim Charles but this video makes me like him even more, nice work!

  • @ej11481
    @ej11481 Жыл бұрын

    Slim having the safety off his gun before the meeting started is a clear sign that he was planning to kill Cheese, or at least was considering it. Think it was a mixture of payback for Joe and (as this video spells out) not wanting to have someone like Cheese as a partner. Also, though the show never spells it out, Marlo probably accepted less than $10M for the connect, because he really didn't have any other options. And Slim might've suspected he would.

  • @seanyoung9014

    @seanyoung9014

    Жыл бұрын

    You'd be surprised how many street dudes don't use the safety like ever.

  • @prophyt605
    @prophyt605 Жыл бұрын

    You broke it down so well 👌🏾

  • @Michael-jr9vu
    @Michael-jr9vu Жыл бұрын

    Slim knew cheese alive would create more problems later on, slim is very smart killing cheese was a business move but was also payback for joe.

  • @murfdog19
    @murfdog19 Жыл бұрын

    Say what you will, but if the Barksdale/Stanfield war happened during Avon's prime, the war would've ended quickly. Imagine Wee-Bey, Stinkum and Bird going after Marlo and his crew.

  • @nevermindme8922

    @nevermindme8922

    Жыл бұрын

    I have to disagree. Omar tried his best but couldn’t get to marlo , snoop, or Chris. Wee bey was a soldier no doubt, but marlos crew was much more calculated. But then again, if stringer didn’t snitch, marlo and crew would have been dead at the end of season 3

  • @darrellglover493

    @darrellglover493

    10 ай бұрын

    Had Stringer not ratted on Avon, Avon would've BEATEN Marlo. Like Slim Charles said, "we missed our shot!"

  • @jonforris
    @jonforris Жыл бұрын

    "Pandemic! WMD!" Foreshadowing

  • @pericopacino
    @pericopacino Жыл бұрын

    Very good analysis my brother 💯💯💯

  • @fredishoes
    @fredishoes Жыл бұрын

    Slim respected prop Joe's ambition, cheese was just after a bag plain and simple.

  • @JimiMagnificent
    @JimiMagnificent6 ай бұрын

    Slim is NOT a relatively minor character. He's a glue character. He's ambitious. He's noble. He's verbose without words.

  • @jameshorton8545
    @jameshorton8545 Жыл бұрын

    If you watched the series you would know that Mr slim Charles was always drop-in jewels but unfortunately NOBODY 👂 listened to him when his advice coukda either saved your life or saved you from doing an all day bid ( life sentence) he warned proposition joe off top about Marlo and because of him not listening sure enuff got joe smoked and he even warned Brodie but the youngbuck was hard headed and ended up getting smoked too!! The list goes on

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