The Radical Left Need Cancel Culture | Konstantin Kisin

Konstantin Kisin discusses the radical left's inability to substantiate woke ideologies, leading them to shutting down debate and smearing those who disagree.
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  • @malcolmnicoll1165
    @malcolmnicoll1165 Жыл бұрын

    “As I'd seen over and again, people who see themselves as victims sometimes don't notice when they become oppressors.” - Souad Mekhennet

  • @ThresholdGaming

    @ThresholdGaming

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes, the Repubs are forever crying about being victims, so try to take away everybody elses rights in their anger.

  • @williamleadbetter9686

    @williamleadbetter9686

    11 ай бұрын

    Sounds like the old stoic expression, " Slaves would-be tyrants at the Choice was theirs"

  • @undeadwill5912

    @undeadwill5912

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@ThresholdGaming great projection

  • @finflwr

    @finflwr

    11 ай бұрын

    'We become what we hate'

  • @jeremyanderson3819

    @jeremyanderson3819

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@undeadwill5912 you'd have to be blind not to see how Republicans constantly tell each other what victims they are.

  • @wandaloxton8167
    @wandaloxton8167 Жыл бұрын

    Two people with such different backgrounds talking so much sense gives me hope for the future. Please do not stop putting out the message, the world needs you.

  • @johngawrylash7732

    @johngawrylash7732

    Жыл бұрын

    I think we can all agree that the radical right means too much hate, so , radical left must mean the opposite. See the difference ?

  • @leonharrison800

    @leonharrison800

    Жыл бұрын

    Kicking the Left and progressive values is not sense! Defending bigotry and hate is not "sense"!!!

  • @JamesBond-uz2dm
    @JamesBond-uz2dm Жыл бұрын

    " Those that can make you believe absurdities , can make you commit atrocities. " ------ Voltaire

  • @TNO73

    @TNO73

    Жыл бұрын

    Their reaction would merely be he was wring simply because he was a white guy

  • @TarsonTalon

    @TarsonTalon

    11 ай бұрын

    Once you commit atrocities, you're fair game.

  • @leonabarkell1809

    @leonabarkell1809

    11 ай бұрын

    Excellent!

  • @ddoherty5956

    @ddoherty5956

    11 ай бұрын

    Like transing/sexualising kids! Glad I see 🐂💩 for what it is.

  • @thechh8297

    @thechh8297

    11 ай бұрын

    @@TarsonTalon so it becomes a matter of when, and when we can then make a legitimate case of self defense

  • @strafe155
    @strafe155 Жыл бұрын

    Without gaslighting and censorship, these people would have nothing. Their political worldview simply cannot stand up to scrutiny.

  • @dixonpinfold2582

    @dixonpinfold2582

    Жыл бұрын

    Nor can their funny haircuts, unusual eyeglass frames and wide socialist faces.

  • @robertholland7558

    @robertholland7558

    Жыл бұрын

    We need to learn to stand up against those that use guilt and emotional manipulation, ie gaslight, and call it out as offensive! I owe no one nothing, and no one owes me anything. Off course general well wishing and May no harm become on any one, but other then that do we really care what happens to others outside our circle?

  • @indigochamber

    @indigochamber

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dixonpinfold2582 'socialist faces' 🤣thank you you made my day

  • @TheBloodyKnuckle

    @TheBloodyKnuckle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the laugh!😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ThresholdGaming

    @ThresholdGaming

    11 ай бұрын

    Let's see...canceled Bud Light, canceled Disney, canceled books in schools, canceled abortions, canceled drag shows, canceled full history in school, canceled LGBT rights, canceled birth control pills, canceled student loan debt relief, canceled veteran care bill, canceled environmental protections nation-wide......you guys really need to recognize your hypocrisy.

  • @OJB42
    @OJB42 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I always thought people whose only debating techniques are cancellation and name calling probably didn't have much of an argument on their side.

  • @julianmarsh8384

    @julianmarsh8384

    11 ай бұрын

    I am in full agreement. All those people who equate liberalism with socialism with communism...all the years I've viewed anyone disagreeing with Israel must simply hate Jews....the Left sucks, doesn't it?

  • @miketackabery7521

    @miketackabery7521

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@Swan F the problem with the center is that it believes nothing. It just wants to get along.

  • @Derek_Gunn

    @Derek_Gunn

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes, you know when someone starts swearing at you - they've run out of ammunition.

  • @daniellesomerfield8799
    @daniellesomerfield8799 Жыл бұрын

    If you don't have a foundation of truth you're left with situational ethics.

  • @Chris-hq7nl

    @Chris-hq7nl

    Жыл бұрын

    Postmodern frameworks of thought deny the existence of objective truth and even go so far as to describe objective truth as oppressive.

  • @rimasmolis8288

    @rimasmolis8288

    Жыл бұрын

    LEFT...with situational ethics...

  • @daniellesomerfield8799

    @daniellesomerfield8799

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Chris-hq7nl Jesus is The Truth and He's far from oppressive.

  • @_nebulousthoughts

    @_nebulousthoughts

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@daniellesomerfield8799 no it's not.

  • @daniellesomerfield8799

    @daniellesomerfield8799

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_nebulousthoughts Do you think that people should run a red light?

  • @kaylenehousego8929
    @kaylenehousego8929 Жыл бұрын

    Simple clear clean truth....thank you both. Blessings from Sydney.

  • @fredorman2429
    @fredorman2429 Жыл бұрын

    Working for something is harder and not as much fun as tearing down and rioting.

  • @andrewgreeb916

    @andrewgreeb916

    Жыл бұрын

    The issue is that nobody wants to rebuild after riots, they'll take their business elsewhere and leave the place destroyed

  • @markcritic2409

    @markcritic2409

    11 ай бұрын

    @@andrewgreeb916 I wonder if these Wokey McWeirdos keep walking past the boarded-up, burned-out buildings and think proudly, "Yup! I did that! Take that, capitalism!"

  • @r0ckworthy
    @r0ckworthy Жыл бұрын

    Great interview. Two intelligent gentlemen having a respectful, good-faith, unscripted conversation.

  • @autumndelicious4998

    @autumndelicious4998

    11 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂 “intelligent gentlemen”😂😂😂😂

  • @FactsOverFeelingz

    @FactsOverFeelingz

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@autumndelicious4998ad hominem 😂😂😂 you prove this video

  • @chriscunningham8807
    @chriscunningham8807 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing this discussion. Konstantin Kisin offers valuable insight and social commentary. John Anderson provides clear and stimulating commentary as well.

  • @castelodeossos3947
    @castelodeossos394711 ай бұрын

    ‘I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.’ Thatcher, Margaret

  • @TarsonTalon

    @TarsonTalon

    11 ай бұрын

    One small issue: Whether or not you win the argument has no bearing on whether or not your genes will survive natural selection. So what if you win the battle on the debate stage, if they win the war by infiltrating the government and then use it to dispose of you?

  • @tommore3263
    @tommore3263 Жыл бұрын

    Keep up the solid work Mr. Anderson.

  • @bwalker4194
    @bwalker4194 Жыл бұрын

    I believe one has to add our current culture’s need for immediacy into the conversation. Sure, young people can’t afford London but instead of educating them to go where they can afford to start the acquision of wealth and work their way up the socioeconomic ladder, they are being taught to hate those above them and burn the ladder itself.

  • @landsea7332

    @landsea7332

    Жыл бұрын

    From the Depression right up to the 1970's countries followed Keynesian economics . Then the era known as stagflation gave snake oil salesmen the excuse to bring in their faux version of Neo Liberalism . Margaret Thatcher was a key component of this in Britain . She privatized every public asset she could get away with , deregulated the financial services sector and ushered in the great hoax of Trickle Down Economics . As a result today , Britain has one of the lowest levels of intergenerational economic mobility in the Western World - along with the US . While at the same time "The Square Mile " is one of the financial capitals of the world . The economics world is full of snake oil salesmen - but here is real economist , Thomas Pikitty Two types of wealth inequality ( income and asset ) Asset Growth > Income Gworth kzread.info/dash/bejne/fH-nqsqRp9SqobA.html Also , Britain's electricity prices are sky rocketing due to privatization - politicians falsely blame Putin . .

  • @mikearchibald744

    @mikearchibald744

    11 ай бұрын

    You say it all about how messed up the system is when you claim young people need to be educated on the fact they can't afford to live in London. That literally takes five seconds of looking at apartment rents and your bank statement. Meanwhile those on the right scream about all the foreigners taking all the houses. And meanwhile those young people, MOST people are simply stating a simple fact. Housing is a human right.

  • @nnglnd

    @nnglnd

    11 ай бұрын

    And if you burn the ladder the ones at the top have nothing to fear

  • @nnglnd

    @nnglnd

    11 ай бұрын

    More shadowbanned comments

  • @craigallmendinger8404

    @craigallmendinger8404

    11 ай бұрын

    There are millions hard working people with good values who have been economically left behind. The unbridled greed, which has become preposterously out of control at the very top of the economic ladder is actually the cause of most of the problems.

  • @TXKafir
    @TXKafir Жыл бұрын

    Remember the famous photo of Stalin standing by a waterway with a couple other people. Later on, the photo was altered to remove one of the people. Cancel culture was quite vicious in the USSR.

  • @karanaman68
    @karanaman68 Жыл бұрын

    Another excellent podcast from Jon Anderson and his guest Konstantine

  • @bradchellingworth5973
    @bradchellingworth5973 Жыл бұрын

    One thing I find frustrating with society today is that people either move to or are born in a place where they either can't afford to live/buy a home or on the flip side can't find work and instead of doing what our ancestors did which is to move to somewhere with more opportunities, they dig their heels in and then complain. How can you expect to move to London, one of the biggest cities in the world and then be angry that property prices are too high for your 30k a year salary.

  • @AngryVet44

    @AngryVet44

    11 ай бұрын

    So the Mcdonalds & Starbucks and Marks and Spenser’s employees are supposed to live Where? to get to their jobs in inner London where the wealthy demand their services and conveniences.🤨 how much more wages do they all get for having to commute in from at least Richmond, Epping, or Watford?

  • @BrockOhhhh

    @BrockOhhhh

    11 ай бұрын

    Exactly.

  • @happinesstan

    @happinesstan

    11 ай бұрын

    It's ironic because London was once the place people moved to for the work.

  • @badass6300

    @badass6300

    9 ай бұрын

    Or like our ancestors did for thousands of years, love communally with your parents and extended family...

  • @jockmoron

    @jockmoron

    8 ай бұрын

    Excuse me, please. So all the pretty wealthy and the seriously rich can afford to live in London. That's great, but are the rich going to sweep the roads, deliver your Amazon goodies, clean the businesses, police the streets, teach your children, serve you in the shops, wipe your failing grandmothers bottom? Didn't Covid convince you of the true need for workers like this and don't they deserve to be able to live in modest comfort where they're needed?. Did the CEOs of any of the great business prove worth anything at all during Covid? Did they heck, just demanding massive handouts from conning an incompetent government and strong-arming a stressed society. With opinions like the ones you express here, no wonder our society is seriously fraying....

  • @dangaines405
    @dangaines40511 ай бұрын

    Kisin is a communications god! Thanks for this content!

  • @gregallan2842
    @gregallan2842 Жыл бұрын

    I'm sick to death of a world which makes heroes of fools and fools of heroes.

  • @knpepper6409
    @knpepper6409 Жыл бұрын

    Spot on guys, this is a very accurate analysis, the big problem is how to turn it 'round, the power brokers don't want to relinquish any of their power and will fight like wildcats to keep it. Certainly though if change isn't forthcoming it'll likely end in tears for us all.

  • @oneildop5729
    @oneildop5729 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely right on target but the downstream consequences of the lack of housing opportunities are only just beginning to be recognised. Lack of family formation a disastrous fall in the birth rate and disintegrating social cohesion. Conventional politics do not appear to offer any solutions to these problems.

  • @JohnWilliams-iw6oq
    @JohnWilliams-iw6oq Жыл бұрын

    One of the tools used to destroy our culture was and still is multiculturalism, in itself it's a wonderful way to enrich our culture and our country but when done on far too great a scale you end up with a fractured society where suburbs become enclaves of foreign culture, their own schools, their own shops and even their own laws. We have become a fractured society and it is going to take a very determined people (not politicians) to overcome this. The whole point is that sensible integration of newcomers is never a waste of time and effort.

  • @32shumble

    @32shumble

    Жыл бұрын

    The Radical Right Need Cancel Culture too!

  • @32shumble

    @32shumble

    Жыл бұрын

    @Jota Efe So what's your solution? Throw out democracy or expel all non-whites?

  • @chriscunningham8807

    @chriscunningham8807

    Жыл бұрын

    This regret at being programmed to embrace multiculturalism from the 1970s onwards without foresight about the potential problems caused by inviting people with divergent beliefs, languages, backgrounds, prior feuding and grudged and conflicting values to live in Australia has begun to morph into a major problem already erupting in many places across the country. Over 50% of people living in Australia do not identify as primarily Australian. Culture wars have been exacerbated by actual and impending war across the globe to cause further friction and fractures. Resentment at a government prioritising and offering more support to migrants than native born Australians has caused outrage, indignation and simmering fury at those who made decisions from a white base in Canberra without considering the implications on Australian identity and native people. The second invasion happened surreptitiously and engulfed chunks of Australian property, space and resources. Accommodating multiple voices and preferences while ignoring valid complaints and warnings from the locals is creating a literal nightmare on a par with The Tower of Babel parable.

  • @andrewgreeb916

    @andrewgreeb916

    Жыл бұрын

    There's a reason why a lot of countries don't just hand out citizenship, they have requirements based on your ancestry

  • @theant9821

    @theant9821

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly, it takes atleast 1 generation or more to fully integrate a family into a different culture. Someone emigrates and its their children and grand children who become at one with the new culture. But if it happens soo fast, if they are isolated from much of the existing culture, they cannot integrate with something they aren't exposed too, so develops the subculture. On a smaller scale thats why different areas have different accents, different slang, etc. Because they're isolated so these attributes never become amalgamated into one.

  • @PennySmart
    @PennySmart Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting and so true about the reason for cancel culture. When it comes to young people not being able to afford to own their own homes being a reason for their radical leftism, it doesn't seem to me pertinent. I lived in London 40 years ago, the problem was already existent but radical leftism was taken up by a tiny minority. OTOH, in France where about 1 out of 2 persons is a home owner, communism never stopped being popular. I blame the erosion of Christian values, which were still present 40 yrs ago in England while France has always been very secular with nominal Roman Catholicism. I believe the 2nd reason is the leftism of teachers who indoctrinate children and teens.

  • @landsea7332

    @landsea7332

    Жыл бұрын

    Interesting comment . There is a strong connection between marxism and atheism . During the cultural revolution , Buddhist temples were smashed . .

  • @danielyounker5371

    @danielyounker5371

    Жыл бұрын

    Catholicism is the truth

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielyounker5371 * CITATION REQUIRED *

  • @ThresholdGaming

    @ThresholdGaming

    11 ай бұрын

    Let's see...canceled Bud Light, canceled Disney, canceled books in schools, canceled abortions, canceled drag shows, canceled full history in school, canceled LGBT rights, canceled birth control pills, canceled student loan debt relief, canceled veteran care bill, canceled environmental protections nation-wide......you guys really need to recognize your hypocrisy.

  • @godsowncountry3605

    @godsowncountry3605

    11 ай бұрын

    So priests don´t indoctrinate our children, or what ?

  • @kiljoy3254
    @kiljoy3254 Жыл бұрын

    If that distinction between the left and radical left has any truth there’s far more “radical” left than left

  • @ThresholdGaming

    @ThresholdGaming

    11 ай бұрын

    Let's see...canceled Bud Light, canceled Disney, canceled books in schools, canceled abortions, canceled drag shows, canceled full history in school, canceled LGBT rights, canceled birth control pills, canceled student loan debt relief, canceled veteran care bill, canceled environmental protections nation-wide......you guys really need to recognize your hypocrisy.

  • @ambhaz8599

    @ambhaz8599

    11 ай бұрын

    I disagree, the new generation of radical leftist use the internet to shout loudly and adopt a higher profile. Many people with left wing views over 40 who don't buy into gender and identity politics.

  • @nl5455

    @nl5455

    11 ай бұрын

    Or, you only think there are more radical left because they are the most loud. The left are less loud

  • @adoreslaurel
    @adoreslaurel11 ай бұрын

    Whilst they say "Power corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupt absolutely' BUT "A total lack of power corrupts also," and we are seeing something like that today.

  • @sa9861
    @sa9861 Жыл бұрын

    Love your program John Anderson ~ watching from Lutruwina (Tasmania), Australia. [I use the First Nation name for this little Isle because it is such a beautiful sounding word, and for no other reason, except, I do want to know what they they named this place].

  • @julythrunov
    @julythrunov11 ай бұрын

    that part about owning a home is huge. People need to be able to own real estate, own a home, a part of their country, so they can feel invested in it, and be part of it.

  • @leonabarkell1809

    @leonabarkell1809

    11 ай бұрын

    But you might not be able to live in a big city. Houses are often overpriced there.

  • @julythrunov

    @julythrunov

    11 ай бұрын

    @@leonabarkell1809 what?

  • @ddoherty5956

    @ddoherty5956

    11 ай бұрын

    People will never tolerate WEF living while they have the option of owning their own home. This is why the rental stocks are being taken away with illegal immigration, in order to inflate house prices out of reach, suddenly communist shoeboxes don't look so bad.

  • @tracy3364
    @tracy3364 Жыл бұрын

    Great conversation

  • @briangriffin928
    @briangriffin928 Жыл бұрын

    Their seems to be so many people who share the same views on society and media etc, how can we get this thought process into mainstream politics?

  • @rep3e4
    @rep3e4 Жыл бұрын

    Nice to hear good common sense

  • @muskduh
    @muskduh7 ай бұрын

    This guy's voice reminds me of Jake Kotze, a visionary from Winnipeg, Canada. Thanks for the interview with Konstantin Kisin!

  • @andrewnorris1
    @andrewnorris111 ай бұрын

    How civilized these two gentlemen are, a joy to hear. Thank you.

  • @laffing_hwhitee
    @laffing_hwhitee11 ай бұрын

    Excellent as always!!!

  • @yankeecornbread8464
    @yankeecornbread8464 Жыл бұрын

    Well darn, the video just stops abruptly when the conversation is blossoming.

  • @buildmotosykletist1987

    @buildmotosykletist1987

    Жыл бұрын

    then go and look at the full interview.

  • @mcgregorpiper

    @mcgregorpiper

    Жыл бұрын

    You can listen to it on his podcast Actually they both have podcasts

  • @richhill9064
    @richhill906411 ай бұрын

    I just found you!! You give me hope for our future!! Please come to the USA Mississippi

  • @rushelm8101
    @rushelm8101 Жыл бұрын

    If you raise people's awareness of their "bad lot in life", then you can show them an alternative and market it as "correct" and "workable", even though it clearly can't be.

  • @rushelm8101

    @rushelm8101

    Жыл бұрын

    @Conservative Holocaust Siberia has a "chilling effect" on peoples sensibilities. That's where your communist budies sent people who disagreed with them. On-board with that are you? Look out, there's glass in the grass for the short-sighted Left!

  • @johnandandreacampbell2974
    @johnandandreacampbell2974 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent

  • @garryrichardson4572
    @garryrichardson4572 Жыл бұрын

    Wow I haven’t heard your name for a while John. I have liked and subscribed and look forward to your content.

  • @CharlieTWilbury
    @CharlieTWilbury11 ай бұрын

    What he’s saying is true for both extremes. Any honest person will admit that reality; partisan ideologues never will.

  • @celina3042
    @celina3042 Жыл бұрын

    I just wish that all the comments on here were available because it seems some are missing 😮

  • @JS-wy6uw
    @JS-wy6uw11 ай бұрын

    Easiests ways to win an argument is to change the language and to keep the opposition from speaking.

  • @reneemac111
    @reneemac11110 ай бұрын

    John Anderson has a beautiful voice

  • @JohnSmith-sj2dk
    @JohnSmith-sj2dk11 ай бұрын

    Proud of Ya John.

  • @andresanguianozuniga6798
    @andresanguianozuniga6798 Жыл бұрын

    Someone once called Cancel Culture "Consequence Culture"... Well, if we want to be "equal" both Right and Left needs to be judged.

  • @Hypestrike1

    @Hypestrike1

    10 ай бұрын

    And by "consequence", they really mean punishment.

  • @casusolivas
    @casusolivas Жыл бұрын

    Ironically the radical left need to be cancelled, lol... however we actually need them to speak so we can prove them wrong.

  • @ThresholdGaming

    @ThresholdGaming

    11 ай бұрын

    Let's see...canceled Bud Light, canceled Disney, canceled books in schools, canceled abortions, canceled drag shows, canceled full history in school, canceled LGBT rights, canceled birth control pills, canceled student loan debt relief, canceled veteran care bill, canceled environmental protections nation-wide......you guys really need to recognize your hypocrisy.

  • @TheGreySage0

    @TheGreySage0

    11 ай бұрын

    Radical Left that supports Censorship

  • @sdrc92126

    @sdrc92126

    Ай бұрын

    Censorship is one of the main indicators that you are dealing with a cult (really). People need to learn how to recognize cults.

  • @dangaines405
    @dangaines40511 ай бұрын

    Liked and subscribed!

  • @futurerush2560
    @futurerush2560 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting! To the final point about crony capitalism emerging through selfishness/corruption/greed of bankers for example, could it not be argued that, as noted with communism earlier in the video, this failing is also due to fundamental human nature and therefore inevitable?

  • @brettweary8491
    @brettweary8491 Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely Guys

  • @williamwoolcock
    @williamwoolcock Жыл бұрын

    Read Marvin Harris, infrastructural determinism vs superstructural determinism.

  • @williamhensley8698
    @williamhensley869811 ай бұрын

    This Anderson fellow is brilliant...

  • @ambhaz8599
    @ambhaz859911 ай бұрын

    I think one of the issues with the discontented younger generations is that they've been encouraged by the education system to dream big and be who you want to be. Reality bites and the need for compromise becomes apparent for those who don't have the skills, knowledge, drive or ambition to achieve their goals. Life is a constant struggle for most working people and accepting that is a challenge to most people's self worth and mental health. Ultimately, we cannot be who we want to be, merely who we are capable of being.

  • @mikegalvin9801

    @mikegalvin9801

    10 ай бұрын

    Also the young generation are not well educated although they are intensely obsessed with credentials. Even, indeed especially, young people from "Elite" schools know virtually nothing about the history of humanity before the I Phone 1 dropped and they are functionally illiterate in economics as well as art or literature or philosophy. At the same time they've been told since preschool they are all uniquely brilliant and accomplished. Thus when they finish school they are convinced they should be entitled to start at the top or least close to it and are shocked to discover that is not happening. Thus the quiet quitting and lofty talk of "knowing my worth" as they wait for "late stage capitalism" to be replaced with a new socialist paradise where they all get six figure salaries and don't even have to get dressed and leave home in the morning.

  • @peterclark6290
    @peterclark6290 Жыл бұрын

    Only silence can make the extremists ever sound plausible. E.g. 'White Rabbit' without the music is a vastly different (marginally excruciating) experience (on KZread somewhere).

  • @dcissignedon
    @dcissignedon Жыл бұрын

    It's an excellent discussion. But the claim that communism conflicts with human nature is only partially correct because it doesn't go far enough. Communism doesn't only conflict with human nature, it conflicts with all nature. Every animal favors it's own, starting with its own family, then its friends, its clan, its tribe, its race, its nation, its species. Communism isn't just anti human nature, its anti life.

  • @clairewarner5704
    @clairewarner5704 Жыл бұрын

    I'd actually disagree on the home owning bit. People owning their own home has only really been in vogue since the 1970s in this country. For most of our history the working class rented. They had tithed cottages on large estates, they shared a two-up, two-down house with 2 other families. It wasn't until the early part of the 20s and 30s that the government began working towards a single house for families and then they were rented. My parents didn't buy their house until the 70s and when my dad was offered to buy a place in the 60s by his landlord, he didn't go for it because it wasn't for the likes of him. This idea that everyone could buy their own home is very recent and most of it generated by Thatcher and her right to buy. The issue with buying property these days is simply supply and demand, there's too few houses for the people that want them.

  • @michaelwarenycia7588

    @michaelwarenycia7588

    8 ай бұрын

    That's for England, maybe, but not true for Canada (where I grew up) nor Ukraine (where I live now) before communism.

  • @EmergingEvents
    @EmergingEvents Жыл бұрын

    Agreed that gummit is downstream of culture but economics is embedded in culture as it is natural law from which all society is possible. Destroy the pricing mechanisms of the market and the economic fabric of a society falls apart.

  • @mr.bright_side
    @mr.bright_side Жыл бұрын

    We can own the clear and present issue of being excluded from property ownership by connecting it with government interference in markets (i.e. capitalism) where it belongs.

  • @chriscunningham8807

    @chriscunningham8807

    Жыл бұрын

    Overseas investors have often bought up Western properties using laundered money or dirty money from drug/cigarette trafficking, human trafficking, the black market, prostitution and slavery, corruption and crime. Western governments and local people have sold off land and resources for immediate gain without considering the long-term implications. Blame human greed and folly. Communist capitalism and expansion are essentially rooted in crime and corruption. Western rules and regulations do not apply to power-hungry and property-hungry people from Communist regimes or corrupt and impoverished countries.

  • @markrobinson4982
    @markrobinson498211 ай бұрын

    This is an excellent conversation because, unlike in many cases, the open Capitalism we've practiced gets taken to task too. The leaders of our system have made terrible decisions for the sake of their own profit - we need to recognize that while Marxism / Communism is unworkable, the way things currently are isn't that great either.

  • @neddyladdy
    @neddyladdy Жыл бұрын

    What is cancel culture ? I have heard the term many many times, not once have I heard it explained. Is it a US phomonem?

  • @bobwhite2
    @bobwhite211 ай бұрын

    Unhappy the whole way through…life.

  • @richardglover314
    @richardglover314 Жыл бұрын

    I don't buy this argument that young people cannot now buy a property in the area they were brought up in, I am 74 and we couldn't do that either in our youth, so we bought something elsewhere. The big difference now is young people have a much higher expenditure to maintain the life style they have come to expect whilst supported by their parents that they then have no willingness to save before breaking away from their parents. The expenditure we had was associated with our pursuit of a partner (hopefully for life) which once found was then saved for a deposit to purchase a property. The question now is what should young people sacrifice to get on the property ladder?

  • @bennichols1113

    @bennichols1113

    Жыл бұрын

    There is a difference in the price of property v income. The problem I see is the govt protections that have removed most of the stepping stone properties. The expectation that you leave school and buy a million dollar house is nuts.

  • @JohnnyAmerique

    @JohnnyAmerique

    11 ай бұрын

    Sure it depends on the area, but the good jobs have increasingly become concentrated in a relatively few urban areas, so the practical options for most people are either renting close by work, or buying and commuting 3+ hours a day. For example, in the Greater Toronto Area, you can’t buy a starter home - not some ostentatious McMansion, just your basic starter house - for less than $1 million anymore. It’s an untenable state of affairs.

  • @hermesten1000
    @hermesten1000 Жыл бұрын

    Decades ago Hillaire Belloc spoke to the need for capitalism to have both and ethical basis and for the majority to have an economic stake in it. It seems those who seek to destroy it understand this far better than those supposedly seeking to preserve it.

  • @maryl5567
    @maryl55677 ай бұрын

    Could another reason these theories are having a notable comeback currently also be due to the chaotic state of existence we are dealing with largely due to the current administration’s stance and unwillingness to even trybto fix open boarders, mass immigration, homelessness, inflation, recession, etc?

  • @deplorablecovfefe9489
    @deplorablecovfefe9489 Жыл бұрын

    In the U.S. the government has strangled the power from the labor unions. Without strong unions corporate has been able to artificially keep wages down for 3-4 decades now. The working class has been wiped out.

  • @sw.7519

    @sw.7519

    11 ай бұрын

    Nope

  • @CFkatehudson
    @CFkatehudson Жыл бұрын

    i need my time machine to look at the west in 50 years. i just want to know if get past this moment and to find out what foolish the left has started up by then.

  • @erpollock
    @erpollock11 ай бұрын

    I lived in the Upper West Side of Manhattan for years, and sometimes went to a synagogue known for being a meeting place. As you left, men would approach you and ask where do you live. If Upper West Side was the answer, they continued. "Do you own or rent?" Like a fool, I answered such a question - rent. They dismissed me and went on to the next woman. These men were looking to own a condo or co-op by marrying one of the women who owned one. These types of men are the type who expect me to finance their fortune-hunting. How fortunate I said "rent" and got rid of them. This is how they expect to "own" a condo or co-op. When I moved out of Manhattan to a modest city, no one ever asked me about my possessions.

  • @brobsonmontey
    @brobsonmontey Жыл бұрын

    I view the " is downstream of " is an attempt to avoid personal responsibility and place responsibility on the other thing. Yes, politics is "downstream" of culture, but culture is also "downstream" of politics. It's a feedback loop, the involves a number of societal contributors (culture, media, politics, governance, societal morals & ethics, etc.) Saying one is downstream of the other is too simplistic and attempt to deflect blame to an origin more convenient for the speaker's position.

  • @Tijuanabill
    @Tijuanabill11 ай бұрын

    The side that has to lie and name call is the side that can't win on the issues.

  • @drwhatson
    @drwhatson Жыл бұрын

    Herbert Marcuse and 'Repressive Tolerance' (aka. Cancel Culture) Marcuse called for the "withdrawal of tolerance from regressive (ie. non-Marxist) movements before they can become active; intolerance EVEN TOWARD THOUGHT, OPINION and WORD and finally, intolerance in the opposite direction, that is, toward the self-styled conservatives, to the political Right."

  • @avus-kw2f213
    @avus-kw2f213 Жыл бұрын

    0:53 no it’s just smart politics as every argument is a good argument without a counter argument

  • @barryfaulkner7032
    @barryfaulkner703210 ай бұрын

    I think that letting foreigners buy real estate in your country is what is driving the price of housing up. It’s only the very rich from developing countries that can afford to move here and buy property. There are a lot of countries where you can’t buy property without giving up your citizenship of your home country and becoming a citizen of the country you want to buy property in.

  • @shaneashby5890
    @shaneashby589011 ай бұрын

    I love people and conversations like this because it forces us to think.

  • @jkbrown5496
    @jkbrown549610 ай бұрын

    "This is the necessary unavoidable consequence of the fact that, according to Marxist doctrine, you do not consider the possibility of dissent among honest people; either you think as I do, or you are a traitor and must be liquidated." --von Mises, Ludwig (1952). Marxism Unmasked Just watched an old LibertyPen video "Thomas Sowell - Progressives, Liberals and Race". He discusses the evolution of those who took up Marxism from race to racism after the 1920s.

  • @dcissignedon
    @dcissignedon Жыл бұрын

    No theory that doesn't work is a great theory. If it doesn't work, it's wrong, and if it's wrong it's a bad theory.

  • @bennichols1113

    @bennichols1113

    Жыл бұрын

    Bad is subjective.

  • @andrewgreeb916

    @andrewgreeb916

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@bennichols1113 in a broad sense maybe, but there are specifically wrong theories that when implemented went rather badly and people still want to try to reimpliment those theories

  • @bennichols1113

    @bennichols1113

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andrewgreeb916 this is true.

  • @Dethred1
    @Dethred111 ай бұрын

    Delighted to hear someone differentiate between the left and radical left. When someone from either side disingenuously frames the other side as homogeneous, it's immediately self-defeating.

  • @djmech3871
    @djmech387111 ай бұрын

    The right uses reason and facts the left uses emotions and name calling.

  • @matthewstavrowsky2393
    @matthewstavrowsky239311 ай бұрын

    These men are speaking truth. The world is in trouble now. Serious trouble. We must resist.

  • @Pseudify
    @Pseudify11 ай бұрын

    As to Anderson’s final point, much of the problem with capitalism that he mentions would likely be ameliorated by having less govt influence - or perhaps, better govt influence with a little forethought and rationality thrown in with policy changes. When you create a policy juggernaut for capitalists to function within, you are obviously going to create an incentive environment that has many undesirable outcomes.

  • @julianmarsh8384
    @julianmarsh838411 ай бұрын

    So true! When I think of all those books being banned and anti-transgender laws, etc., the Left just makes me want to throw up!

  • @SpoonFruit
    @SpoonFruit Жыл бұрын

    I suppose it keeps them occupied

  • @mdelcb9915
    @mdelcb991511 ай бұрын

    It's called repressive tolerance, developed by H. Marcuse (Frankfurt School)

  • @Mindyourbusiness385
    @Mindyourbusiness38511 ай бұрын

    It’s the entire plan. To create a social credit system.

  • @ClayWeblogistics
    @ClayWeblogistics Жыл бұрын

    Communism does not get us to a better place. A individual where individualism in not valued. Huge system and since the state takes care of all no collective barganing.

  • @kaylenehousego8929

    @kaylenehousego8929

    Жыл бұрын

    May God protect us from such evil .

  • @glennweber9290
    @glennweber929011 ай бұрын

    Gotta love that Konstantin's gripe with younger generations' critique of Soviet Russia ("That wasn't real communism") is considered insubstantive, meanwhile Jon Anderson's critique of modern capitalism ("That's not capitalism, that's crony capitalism") is taken at face value as if it were somehow self evident. There's a lack of self reflection on display here that is at least equivalent.

  • @danielmeadows3712
    @danielmeadows371211 ай бұрын

    The inability to buy a home was mentioned as the number one grievance among young people today ,but this has been a problem throughout history. The fact that the working class can hope to afford personal property is a relatively recent ideal. To hold up socialism as a model to follow is ridiculous considering it the state that allocates and decides where you live and what is best for you and your family.

  • @BDub2024
    @BDub2024 Жыл бұрын

    Anderson was called the most handsome man in Parliament by one of his detractors when he was Deputy PM. He's not a political ideologue, or a numbers man. Just a decent guy that headed the Nationals, who were in coalition with the ruling Libs making him Deputy PM. A vocational PM. I would also say that most people entering politics do it for the right reason.

  • @BillieJolene1
    @BillieJolene1 Жыл бұрын

    I agree, there is an extreme left but there is also an extreme right. Both are INSANE. Pretty much we have children in control of our lives.

  • @NeoN-PeoN

    @NeoN-PeoN

    11 ай бұрын

    The extreme right has no power. The extreme left does.

  • @junevandermark952
    @junevandermark95211 ай бұрын

    Whether left or right ... those who join any group ... believe that their personal choice of politics should rule the world. Those in religion were and are of the same mentality. It's an ego problem. Example as follows ... From the book ... Guide for Living … Pope Pius XII … Selected Addresses and Letters of His Holiness World Government Address to members of the Universal Movement for World Federation, April 6, 1951: Your movement gentlemen, aims at bringing into being an effective political world organization. Nothing is more in line with the traditional doctrine of the Church nor more adapted to her teaching regarding just and unjust war, particularly at the present juncture.

  • @Eliezer-ec1bx
    @Eliezer-ec1bx10 ай бұрын

    The minute labor is framed as a "cost of doing business," is the point at which one is no longer in a capitalist economy. When labor is denied its claim for just compensation in its own right, this is a feudal, not capitalist economy. CORPORATISM, is the modern feudal interface.

  • @kirkbrooks9447
    @kirkbrooks9447 Жыл бұрын

    Back when Obama was POTUS he encouraged young people to build wealth via home ownership. The problem was that too many of us Americans weren't raised to start small and build up. The "Starter home" idea seemed to fall to the wayside and people were buying expansive homes with multiple bedrooms and they hadn't even started a family yet. On top of that the mortgage lenders were lending up to 125% of the homes value. All so people could pay off heavy debt and buy a home and start building. The problem became real when people would rack up massive credit card debt and then refinance their home at 125% again. And they would do it multiple times. When the bubble eventually burst these people were so far under water it cooked them. Foreclosures went through the roof and property values tanked for several years. Bankruptcies skyrocketed and the economy tanked. All because of people who had no discipline and their materialistic thirst for instant gratification.

  • @m444ss
    @m444ss11 ай бұрын

    "fascist" also being used incorrectly and inappropriately

  • @projoebiochem
    @projoebiochem11 ай бұрын

    That point that Mr. Anderson makes at 6:57 until the end may be the most important of the clip. Capitalism depends on a higher sense of morality and ethics, not lower. It’s what Milton Friedman got wrong. It goes back to the most under appreciated lesson of Christianity - If you are doing something that is technically within the law, but you do it knowing you are harming others, it is still sinful, even if it is legal.

  • @Trid3nt861
    @Trid3nt86111 ай бұрын

    *Yuri Bezmenov spoke out about leftists in the 80s*

  • @MS-sb9ov
    @MS-sb9ov Жыл бұрын

    The house ownership point is key. On the face of it it’s supply and demand. But take Colorado for example, there are massive empty plots of land with some house building taking place. BUT prices are still high. S&P is not the issue. It’s greed of those in control of the process. Greed of construction companies, greed of banks, greed of government. Marxism wouldnt see the light of day in the West if greed wasn’t king. But it is, and it’ll probably be it’s downfall.

  • @Puzzlesocks

    @Puzzlesocks

    Жыл бұрын

    The house building is complicated because of things like lumber limits and a consistent lack of people in construction and industrial trades. We've been convinced that supply and demand is simple greed, but really the biggest thing to change is regulation on where, what, and why you can build housing. Building a tree house is illegal in some states without governmental approval, and such kind of regulation along with a long running campaign convincing kids that trade jobs are bad has led to shortages in supply. Many other reasons go into it, but the housing crisis is absolutely not as simple as greed, that's just the simplified Marxist view of the problem.

  • @victoryoneable
    @victoryoneable11 ай бұрын

    With the demographic cliff rapidly approaching, it will be increasingly affordable for young people to own their own houses. Maybe not in a big city like London, but certainly in the outer suburbs and towns.

  • @johnl5316
    @johnl5316 Жыл бұрын

    WHAT is a "White Supremacist"?

  • @sarahhale-pearson533
    @sarahhale-pearson53311 ай бұрын

    Ooooh… this must be an intelligent discussion, yt have blacked it out

  • @jamesharmon3827
    @jamesharmon382711 ай бұрын

    Ole Britney Griner got a lesson in what oppression means

  • @forestgump99
    @forestgump99 Жыл бұрын

    Diversity is our strength...baloney!! An identity we can all coalesce around, shared beliefs, outlook, shared vision for the future, these are the things that create cohesion and positive outcomes...

  • @getlost3346

    @getlost3346

    Жыл бұрын

    Europeans (white) didn't need diversity to accomplish great thing in history. Pioneer space craft is testimony to that.

  • @thomashutter5499
    @thomashutter549911 ай бұрын

    You should look into the past to see the future. Most big Empires fall after they started messing up with the „truth“. I don’t know enough of the South American empires but you see it clearly with the Greek, the Egyptian, the Rome Empires, their middle class and upper class did not have any problems anymore, so they started with woke ideas and shortly after the empire falls. So, I think we as humans did not evolve continuously, we build empires, and they last 200 to 400 years, than we have so much comfort, that we don’t feel comfortable anymore and we destroy everything we have, fall back, feel bad, evolve to the next level, work hard to reach the next level… and that goes on and on.

  • @jensphiliphohmann1876
    @jensphiliphohmann187611 ай бұрын

    I disagree with 02:52: _The theory was wrong because there was an assumption in it that people would have a loyalty and the state ahead of their family and those they loved._ No, that's not the point, for two reasons: ▪︎Marx's theory wasn't about loyalty to the state or the party in the first place. It was about capitalism leading to ever more concentrating monopolies, furthermore impoverishing the working classes in the process which would lead to revolution because the revolting masses have nothing left to lose. And it's about the development of first a socialist state which supposedly would evolve further into a society without a state or more accurately a government where people share the means of production and freely work together, without anyone bossing around. This at least is the idea. ▪︎Loyalty to the party or the state above that to family and friends _was_ a thing in so-called socialist states but in other kinds of dictatorships as well, and it lead to the demise of many people who ended up imprisonment or death, and I bet in modern day China and even more so in North Korea, this kind of oppression works _horribly_ well.

  • @Lorenzo1972.
    @Lorenzo1972.11 ай бұрын

    Crony capitalism is a symptom. Government fiat is the problem.