Hilarious that the conservatives vote for their leader with what amounts to a transferable vote, and the public only gets first past the post. Shows what system is better, and who would lose out if the people got their say haha.

@MerrickKing

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing 🤣

@Amelia-vk4jt

Жыл бұрын

Fucking hate first past the post so unrepresentative

@SantomPh

Жыл бұрын

Remove "local" MPs and fill the Commons based on proportional vote. Then you have democracy.

@SantomPh

Жыл бұрын

@@NadirAgha Nigel Farage's UKIP had 12% of the total vote share at one point. FPTP kept him out of Parliament-but unfortunately allowed so many others in.

@danielwebb8402

Жыл бұрын

We voted against a move to an alternative vote system. The Tory vote for leader is first past the post to the members. The wider constituency. You are drawing the wrong comparable. You are saying the general election ballot paper should have all the candidates for the seat from Labour. And all from the Conservatives etc. Rather than the party choose 1 candidate. Then the public choose from between those candidates of 1 per party.

This feels more like a friendship contest for prom instead of a serious political decision.

@Kathakathan11

Жыл бұрын

Pseudo democracy

@GhostOnTheHalfShell

Жыл бұрын

feelings can be accurate

@dannyarcher6370

Жыл бұрын

How else should it be done?

@dannyarcher6370

Жыл бұрын

@@Kathakathan11 Democracy is dumb.

@Kathakathan11

Жыл бұрын

@@dannyarcher6370 well but Britain claims to be perfect democracy

It boggles my mind anyone can support Truss, even more that she gets that many votes. At least Hunt crashed and burned.

@Cunnysmythe

Жыл бұрын

She seems like the only one running who is actually a dunce

@Da1Dez

Жыл бұрын

@@Cunnysmythe Hence why we want her to win to ensure the Tories fail more.

@kimsanghyuk97

Жыл бұрын

@@Da1Dez Having Boris and imbeciles like JRM in power have already caused so much destruction, I don't think we should be looking for more suffering...

@Sam-sc6rr

Жыл бұрын

I can't get over how she boldly claimed to join the party that let her down as a child. 😂😂

@jimmahgee

Жыл бұрын

The Tories are the party of “swivel-eyed loons”, who chose BJ as PM. What do you expect???

Mourdant did not serve in the Royal navy, she became a reservist after becoming an MP to puff up her empty CV. based on your synopsis of her its working.

@ricardomartins286

Жыл бұрын

Not even a reservist she is a honorary commander. She never served in the navy. One minute. This is according to royal navy.

@krisdaschwab912

Жыл бұрын

Having an empty CV is still better than Sunak and Truss.

@SE1Deadaim

Жыл бұрын

@@krisdaschwab912 climate denier and homeopathy aren't cv worthy but are there. She's a nutter who'd be woefully out of depth in office. Sunak would be best in that he'll cause minimal damage before a next GE

@00dude3

Жыл бұрын

She was also on Splash

Жыл бұрын

How comes nobody is picking this up? I mean after BJ, the pathological liar, one should hope that the next PM is more... honest? Or at least basing his/her CV on actual facts and not well sounding fantasy. Hey TLDR! Any chance for you guys to fact-check this? Would be greatly appreciated! ;)

This Tory election process looks suspiciously like Alternate Vote... Weird, I remember they telling us that First Past the Post is the best way to elect a leader!

Regardless of who wins this, the British public end up losing

@nathanaelsmith3553

Жыл бұрын

That's the tag line for AVP - sort of

@Rolando_Cueva

Жыл бұрын

Time to start a revolution maybe?

@undeadwerewolves9463

Жыл бұрын

%100

"I became a Tory because I saw the school kids in Leeds being let down" The fuck? So I joined the party who gives zero fuck about kids in Leeds?

@bujin1977

Жыл бұрын

Reality: She became a Tory, and a Brexiteer, because she's a political opportunist and that's the way the wind was blowing. She's only interested in furthering her own career rather than doing any good for the country. Just like Boris Johnson.

@vanbaguette7368

Жыл бұрын

Relatable to be honest

@yagamienjoyer4408

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@evannibbe9375

Жыл бұрын

She was inspired to let them down even more.

@tabbymoonshine5986

Жыл бұрын

She's a clear case of rebelling against her mummy and daddy. Sounds like they were decent people, they must be deeply embarrassed

You ever seen that Simpsons episode where they try to recall Mayor Quimby because everyone hates him and Homer dresses as a Salamander. But no candidate gets any support, so they're stuck with Quimby?

"I believe the Ronald Reagan dictum..." The UK is worse off than I imagined.

Really wondering how Tories under Tugendhat would look like, minus any Boris-style instabilities

@Brizlebird

Жыл бұрын

Look at the Liberal Democrats. Tory grassroot members wouldn’t vote for him because he is far too liberal.

@iAmTheSquidThing

Жыл бұрын

Maybe quite similar to the Cameron/Clegg coalition government?

@rakaalcuzaadnankadar6719

Жыл бұрын

I do support Tugendhat... He seems to be a very sensible and responsible person. But he, unfortunately, lose out in the second round.... I could see that Mordaunt have the same air, but still.... I really hope it is not Sunak, Truss, or Badenoch. As an outsider, they seems to be.... subpar, to say the least :')

@theuglykwan

Жыл бұрын

He'd probably get sabotaged like Corbyn.

@beardedjb2273

Жыл бұрын

@@iAmTheSquidThingso, not great, but almost certainly better than our madlad Boris?

Sunak is more well versed in the economics aspects of how the economy works compared to the other candidates

Honestly I think Sunak's approach of not cutting taxes is the most responsible, whilst its always nice to have tax cuts its the wrong thing to do during large periods of inflation.

@daBuzzY90

Жыл бұрын

It's also patently stupid, right now. It would've been more prudent to have higher taxes during when the economy was running well, and now duck them a bit to give breathing room for the cost of living crisis, but well, tories are mongs. Rishi and Tugendhat seem to be the only ones with their heads actually attached to their bodies.

@simonb2109

Жыл бұрын

People are struggling now, we had 10 years of tory austerity long before covid and with costs at an all time high just taxing us even more is cruel. We're one of the most highly taxed countries on earth and the reason we still have any wealth, rubbish.

@demstaincanada

Жыл бұрын

That'd be okay if the tax money is reinvested by the conservative government and put towards higher growth but they'll likely continue to stripe public services while still taking higher taxes

@alvinoze

Жыл бұрын

We’ve had 15 tax increases under the tories and a N.I tax increase during a living cost crisis & post pandemic. How is tax cut not a good thing, people and I mean real people are struggling with all these taxes and this ever-increasing living cost..

@ElHipokondriako

Жыл бұрын

@@alvinoze because the most direct way for the government's to reduce inflation is to increase taxes and use the money to pay back previous debts with the Bank of England. That way, money is removed from the economy. If inflation is 10% you lose 10% of your savings and wage in one year. Landlords, on the other hand, will be more than happy to see the price of their assets bumped a 10%, and the icing on the cake would be to have their taxes reduced too.

No one is winning, this is one of those contests where everyone involved is a loser and the British people will lose most of all

The only good thing that came out of Boris was the satire. Since the tories are still in charge, that will probably only be the good thing that comes out of the next government

@tysonchurcher1736

Жыл бұрын

M

@timisunder1404

Жыл бұрын

Not really all the good Boris memes are from before he was prime minister.

Oh look. The contest for the person who's going to get kicked out of Downing Street after the next general election.

@alexties6933

Жыл бұрын

lol

@ryledra6372

Жыл бұрын

We can only hope

@Marcusjnmc

Жыл бұрын

fingers crossed

@GOLDSMITHEXILE

Жыл бұрын

more like a cat fight to discover who was previously selected to be the next supine governor general of uk plc. The rich twatts couldnt care less wether its rishi, keir or uncle fanny as long as their trans national open borders business interests arent threatened

@ShrunkedDude

Жыл бұрын

Just hope the voters don't forget about this in 22 months time.

The basic problem, as I see it, is that the different “factions” inside the Tory Party are *still* openly arguing each other and trying to out-do each other. Want a “unifying” candidate? Forget it.

@istherenofreename

Жыл бұрын

I thought Brexit was meant to be the solution to unite the party!

@KingBobXVI

Жыл бұрын

@@istherenofreename - Turns out, half-baked shit ideas that fuck everyone over aren't conducive to promoting unity. Who knew.

@XIIchiron78

Жыл бұрын

Almost like it's not really one party but is only held together by the spoiler effect of FPTP

She has not served in the Royal Navy - she joined the RN Reserve in 2010 when she became an MP. She claims to have become inactive in 2015, but I have seen claims that she has never done any RNR training.

Morguant has not served in the Royal Navy! She joined theRN reserve but has never been to sea.

@anthonyclegg1511

Жыл бұрын

I thought so, she hasn't got a load of medals on her chest.

@nuriben7910

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyclegg1511 there a joke about seamen there somewhere

@sanjivjhangiani3243

Жыл бұрын

It sounds like Gilbert and Sullivan.

@anthonyclegg1511

Жыл бұрын

@@nuriben7910 it does sound like, a sherman tank to me.

@InternetMameluq

Жыл бұрын

They also serve, who only stand and wait.

Why do they make the debates look like a bad episode of The Weakest Link? I would love it if they voted off each other with those blue oval whiteboards being absolute snakes to each other.

Tugendhat was the only candidate who wasn't spineless. It's a shame the conservative party seem to have a policy against members with functioning spines and lean more in favour of people who have a loyalty to themselves over their country

@johnroach9026

Жыл бұрын

Given the average age of the British conservative, I think most of them feel a bit jealous

@corradomancini3271

Жыл бұрын

Any one can be a Tory member. There’s no policy whatsoever against anything. You definitely don’t live or work in the U.K…….. Because your comment indicate you don’t have a scooby.

Pulling out of the debate seems like a bad move. I think it would be better just to approach the debate with a less combative tone.

@Marcusjnmc

Жыл бұрын

a third televised debate wouldn't have made much difference , they've already had 2 & none of their policies or personalities are liable to change , I was surprised they were even having a third, on top of that sky broadcasts won't even reach as many conservative members voting in the final round as the channel 4 & itv debates, aside from money from sky there was basically no benefit

@theuglykwan

Жыл бұрын

Smarter to pull out. They've said all they had to. Plus the 2 strongest candidates pulling out at the moment would hopefully make the other ones look irrelevant. They are far enough ahead to be relatively safe so they have little to gain. Just let the stragglers whittle themselves down. Attacking them just harms them gaining their supporters.

@JevansUK

Жыл бұрын

Labour won the first 2, who the hell thought these were a good idea, virtually none of the viewers will have been able to vote in this race so where the benefit?

As someone from the otherside of the world who's been following this fiasco, I still can't fathom out how a person like Sunak got any chance in this, but here we are...

@Fleeb-pb7zo

Жыл бұрын

Why wouldn’t he?

@superhumantrueman

Жыл бұрын

@@Fleeb-pb7zo Because he is a tax dodger and Eat Out To Help Out was a really dumb idea.

@Andrew-ob5ij

Жыл бұрын

As it’s currently just mps voting, not any normal person

@harrytan5579

Жыл бұрын

Which otherside of the world are you from, surely not America.

@anustubhmishra

Жыл бұрын

@@harrytan5579 probably australia

Have you had your highlights done?

Thanks for the explainer section on each of the candidates. Found out some things that I didn’t know that have realigned my preferences a bit. Not that I have any say in who gets the job

As someone who couldn’t be bothered to watch the debates, this was a great summary video. Keep up the amazing work guys

Was going to bed, but now I must learn about the British PM race. (I'm American.)

@Jimmy-vm5wj

Жыл бұрын

omg same lmao

@andreasarnoalthofsobottka2928

Жыл бұрын

This is technically not the race for PM, but for the leader of the conservative party. It just happenes to be the largest party in the house of commons commanding a large mayority. And traditionally the mayority leader is appointed PM by the queen.

@WelshLefty26490

Жыл бұрын

I'm Welsh And no I'm not British

@leonardoflorentin

Жыл бұрын

@@WelshLefty26490 what??

@WelshLefty26490

Жыл бұрын

@@leonardoflorentin Wales, a Country in the British Isles, A Proud Nation 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

"Is Boris Johnson honest?" (candidates bicker against each other)

12:20 tory brain rot. My left wing parents want more funding for education, but let me join the political party that saves money on education every year and who is responsible for those kids in Leeds not having a future. 🧠

Tugendhat was the only one to answer the Yes or No Question with a simple No

@joshuataylor3550

Жыл бұрын

That was refreshing

This is an excellent process as the Tories are showing themselves for what they truly are I.e. not at all good for the country.

@SevenEllen

Жыл бұрын

But we all knew that decades ago.

choising one of them is like choising a toilet on day three of glastonbury

TLDR News is a god send for us ex pats, cheers for keeping us in the loop

@awesomeguy3211

Жыл бұрын

Hate the word ex pat. You're an immigrant

@liamcollins9183

Жыл бұрын

Yep, living in NZ, TLDR is the best (and pretty balanced) way to keep up to date with UK politics

@lulzyboy

Жыл бұрын

@@liamcollins9183 same in Estonia. Good job TLDR!

@allliquid6320

Жыл бұрын

Ex pats ? You mean immegrants 😉

@lulzyboy

Жыл бұрын

@@allliquid6320 yep. i should have corrected that too. i am an immigrant in estonia and it's nice to be kept up to date

Truss "my parents were left wing activists' I hope they are disgusted with you

@olsenfernandes3634

Жыл бұрын

Was the disgusting thing the fact that she chose to join the party that actually has power to change the country instead of a powerless one on the decline?

@adrianevans263

Жыл бұрын

@@olsenfernandes3634 no it was the fact that she has forsaken everything her parents stood for, and some herself given her stances pre Boris. All whilst managing to accomplish nothing

@bertverhoosel7437

Жыл бұрын

She is not precisely respected in the western world due to some very dubious statements she has made in the near past questioning her general knowledge of what is happening in the world.

Tugendhat may just flip the board to annoy the Conservative party by backing Kemi. It's clear most don't actually want her in the final two, but Tugendhat's voters would help her knockout Truss and have a run at the final two.

"my liberal values made me a conservative but I'm totally not inconsistent" hmmm, okay

@undeadwerewolves9463

Жыл бұрын

British politics is the biggest joke on earth.

Really good summary, thank you.

We should be getting electoral reform through, instead of taking part in this circus.

Sunak seems like he's the most economically literate but Tugendhat felt like a genuinely good guy

The only suitable candidate for PM is Waldo from Black Mirror

The tories seemed to have realized that them talking does more damage than anything else, why else would Sunak and Truss have pulled out of the third debate.

does anyone think Tom Tugendhat looks like a sensible guy that actually can get more moderate and centrist voters, plus that he can negotiate with both lib dems and labour in terms of policies

@Thermalions

Жыл бұрын

What, negotiate to get things done for the good of the country? That's not how party politics work.

@Kathakathan11

Жыл бұрын

You definitely need conservative giver as per global situation

Ben Howlett gave a completely implausible reason for the Tory voters kicking Tom T. out of the running…Tugendhat called the others out on honesty and was completely truthful about Boris Johnson, Tom T. not far enough to the right for their blinkered mind set despite his popularity with swing voters and others, however, there is little doubt that all contenders are unworthy candidates. The Tory party will always represent the Tory party beyond all other considerations, whomsoever wins the job the U.K. will undoubtedly face another two years of hardship.

Cameron - Quit Teresa May - Quit Boris Johnson - Quit I struggle to see why anyone would put their faith in this broken party. Now our next PM looks to be a beauty pagent rather than a good political candidate. Of course the guy with the fucking Colgate smile is going to win.

This one aged well.

I'd love to know Sunak's inside thoughts when Truss was talking about school

Lets go Lizz Truss! "A clean break from the war economy... Well, some of us liked that war economy! How's an honest warmongers supposed to make a livin'?

I love everything about the chiropractic retreat joke. So unenthusiastic but so good

Well I don't know much about TT or really what his main policies are. But out of all of them, he's the one who seems the most honest, which goes a long way to gaining support because people are sick to death of being lied to on a daily basis.

She didnt 'serve in the Navy' she was a Reservist who failed to complete her training.

I'm not a Brit but this was entertaining as hell

@nathanaelsmith3553

Жыл бұрын

Cringe comedy not my thing

@auto_revolt

Жыл бұрын

I'm a Brit and it would be funny if it wasn't happening to us :|

@Thermalions

Жыл бұрын

I really don't get why they would have any broadcast debates for an internal leadership challenge. The public aren't the ones voting for leader and it just puts internal faction conflict and bickering in front of joe average. There's literally no upside and plenty of risk at the next general election, gift wrapping plenty of sound bites from these debates for the opposition to criticise the government with.

@HG_1879

Жыл бұрын

@@Thermalions finally some sense

@PeterNjeim

Жыл бұрын

@@Thermalions what? Why do people who know nothing talk as if they know anything. The next leader will be determined by the 180 thousand Conservative Party members, so obviously they have to broadcast it so that their members can make an informed choice...

In the last hour we've had Tobias Ellwood kicked out of the Tory party out of some form of petty revenge from Boris (Ellwood was one of Boris's chief critics in the Tory party as well as one of the first to call for his resignation over Partygate) as well as an attempt by the government to try and sabotage Penny Mordaunt's campaign (Ellwood was a major supporter/backer of Mordaunt, plus Liz Truss who's behind Mordaunt in the leadership race is the closest thing Boris has to a 'chosen successor' so Boris will want to hurt Mordaunt's campaign). The truth is the Tories are at full civil war with themselves, unless Kier Starmer does something stupid that destroys his reputation, Labour have the next general election won.

My picks from all the them have always been Penny Mordant & Tom Tugendhat I hope one of these 2 win the PM job

@Marcusjnmc

Жыл бұрын

Penny needs to capture vote share from whoever goes out next out of Liz & Kemi &/or some from Sunak or she won't reach the final 2 even with Tom's votes added to her's

@danunpronounceable8559

Жыл бұрын

Bloody hope not, she's not fooling anyone that she wasn't for a policy of self ID. I've been hoping for badenoch, but this race will probably be sunak/truss

@krisdaschwab912

Жыл бұрын

I hope the Tories collapse.

@kimsanghyuk97

Жыл бұрын

@@danunpronounceable8559 Badenoch said that she'll 'bring down immigration to reduce the burden on the NHS and housing' - I'm not sure why you'd support that given that the whole point of brexit was to reduce immigration. So now suddenly brexit hasn't worked and they want to cut more immigration through other means? Why don't they just give the funding to the NHS to 'ease the pressure' instead of looking to blame others all the time ffs

@danunpronounceable8559

Жыл бұрын

@Alexander Hendry uh, yea, it's important that our leaders have a grasp on reality instead of falling for some fantasy that a women can have a penis

Tax cuts during this time of inflation is a awful idea. Experts are saying a recession is coming too.

Anyone but liz truss, anyone but liz truss please

@josephbrennan370

Жыл бұрын

Lol

Sunak is guaranteed to be in the final 2. I think he'll probably walk the membership vote as well. He's a good candidate tbf, we do need to be careful with the economy following the enormous amount of borrowing we've had to take due to Covid. It's 100* better to have him than Johnson anyway.

Tugendhat may poll well with the public, but it seems he may be too unknown and risky for the party to elect as leader. He also doesn't have any experience leading a big Government department, which would have helped his ambitions.

One thing that is weird is that UK seem to have more PM changes in general than elections for electing PM.

So, as an immigrant in the UK, my partners family are UK natives and are heavy Sunak backers; trying to tell them what he did under Boris is being met with "He's trying to rectify his mistakes now"...

@sfp2290

Жыл бұрын

It is easier to convince someone of an obvious lie, which they wish to believe in. Than to convince someone of an inconvenient truth. That's my understanding of it all, and yes, this goes for absolutely everyone.

@natenae8635

Жыл бұрын

Are they Tory members?

thanks for the chiropractor joke, i'm stealing it

If you want to see how little the chancellor understands the world of economics, just listen to the drivel Sunak came out with about the Bank of Englands' "Independence" and it's fabulous track record on inflation. For bonus giggles, listen to Truss praise the Bank of Japan for policies that have created two "lost decades" of stagnation. A world of their own.

@olsenfernandes3634

Жыл бұрын

Japan's economic stagnation is mainly because they are losing population and don't have a big enough workforce not because of their economic policies.

@pbkeyi

Жыл бұрын

@@olsenfernandes3634 While workforce is definitely a problem it's a long-term problem. The Japan's stagnation started ages ago and was caused almost entirely by economic polices. The country got into ZLB trap with deflation and the Central Bank of Japan completely failed to do anything about it for decades losing all trust in the process. And trust is the main resource of any central bank. Late Abe's economic polices were also half-baked with not enough political will to go all the way resulting in only a mild alleviation of Japan's economic health.

@olsenfernandes3634

Жыл бұрын

@@pbkeyi Sorry, can you explain what the "ZLB Trap" is? I never heard about it.

@pbkeyi

Жыл бұрын

@@olsenfernandes3634 The Zero Lower Bound where you have interest rate near zero and central banks can't go any lower w/o quantitate easing (which Japanese CB did end up doing but too late and not consistently that is stopping it as soon as they hit some 1% inflation or so) or going into negative interest rates (which no one knows if it's even going to work and how it would affect the economy in the long term). The Fed and ECB also hit ZLB in 2010s but did a far better job dealing with it (tho still they would be far better off with higher inflation target at around 4-5% and not 2% in case of the Fed). Global inflation is actually helping to alleviate this problem quite a bit cause everyone is hiking interest rates now, hopefully it would last.

@ASLUHLUHCE

Жыл бұрын

Ok but what insane person would hand over monetary policy to the cabinet

i think sunak can get the leadership but well lets just hope they get the right leader in charge

@barrycooke2360

Жыл бұрын

Instead.

I liked Tugendhat as a veteran for his speech on the fall of Kabul he seems more human than the rest of these parasites

I should've got me some popcorn before watching this xD

TLDR for life!

I think it’s quite fascinating the fact that in the referendum for change of election procedures and the introduction of AV , The entire Tory party and government voted And campaigned against it . Now how do they appoint the new leader , yeah that’s right basically it’s AV .

@corradomancini3271

Жыл бұрын

Nope you’re wrong. The government did not campaign against it. It was a coalition government

Shame that Tom is out now Brits are stuck with some pretty slimy candidates. But that's what happens when those in power get to decide who gets more power.

@Minimoshi

Жыл бұрын

Why is Kemi slimy in your opinion? To me she seems like the only real conservative with her own opinions left in the race. She polls well with voters too

Sky should have kept the televised debate and empty-chaired anyone who declined to show.

@PianoKwanMan

Жыл бұрын

Stand ins like: Lloyd from Henly standing in for Rishi and Judith from Rugby standing in for Liz.

Rishi Sunak reminds me of that one character in Now you see me.

Only Uncle Rupert, and the consortium of business concerns he influences on the behalf of, know who the winner is.

It's hilarious that the debates are done at a time when the only ones voting already know the candidates and are voting based on trades on appointments and policies made for support.

@Marcusjnmc

Жыл бұрын

the people voting later are still watching here & also the more politically aware & active are communicating with their local MPs , both within & outside the party, this weekend was the right time for the debates imo, it allows for democracy via representation to at least have more a chance to function

@bearcubdaycare

Жыл бұрын

Well, it does allow MPs to see how the candidates perform in a debate. Looking at post debate polling numbers might give insight to how well each candidate would lead the party through an election down the road.

@Kathakathan11

Жыл бұрын

How is this a democracy, without direct vote?

@terriblej6107

Жыл бұрын

@@Kathakathan11 there’s a few “democracy” that really aren’t democracy. Like the USA with the president

Hi T D L R, have I missed something? I thought that the process of selecting a new leader is one that is the business of the party and the members go through a voting routine in which the least favoured are gradually eliminated, I cannot see where there is any contest, you either get enough votes or you din't!. The gesturing and posturing that they play at to try to persuade the undecided is a performance not a competition. Cheers, Richard.

honesty is the best policy and it opens the gateway for integrity and trust 👌

Looking on as someone from a former part of the empire (left in 1776) I think I know who the big winner will be - Labour in the next general election.

As a non-UK citizen, I took my popcorn. I do admit that the squabbles were rather petty but still miles above the usual political quarrelling in my home country. If nothing else for the lack of screaming. The points debated were at least in part about policy and that's also a difference. All in all, a disgrace, but with a modicum of manners.

@billcipherproductions1789

Жыл бұрын

As a UK citizen I also took my popcorn since I know that none of them would change any actual shit.

i find it insane how half of them can openly be transphobic and still receive lots of support

He keeps saying "Voting for their favorite." That's not how this works. Why isn't there any discussion of strategic voting, something we know happened in 2019 in order to give Boris a favorable matchup when facing the whole party? Thin stuff guys, even for TLDR.

@Kathakathan11

Жыл бұрын

There shouldn’t be such voting, one citizen one vote

So this is essentially ranked voting. Why can’t we have this for the general and local elections

@Kathakathan11

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t this wrong? Should leader of the country be directly voted for?

@TheJaredtheJaredlong

Жыл бұрын

@@Kathakathan11 In a parliamentary system you vote for a political party in general elections. So the people vote for which party will lead the country, and the party then votes for who will lead the party. Ipso facto, the party leader is the leader of the country, but just because the people no longer support the party leader doesn't necessarily mean they want to see the ruling party deposed. This indirect system helps maintain national political stability separate from inter-party tumult.

@Kathakathan11

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJaredtheJaredlong okay, well explained & thank you. SP when parties are elected, do people vote in Britain, 1 citizen 1 vote? I should rather just google entire system, sorry for bothering you.

@iapetusmccool

Жыл бұрын

@@Kathakathan11 Yes, one person one vote. The country is divided into 650 constituencies, and each constituency elects 1 MP to represent them in parliament. (Most) MPs are a member of a party, and the party that gets the most MPs forms the government, with the leader of that party becoming PM.

The least worst option right now is Mordaunt.

@leonardwimbelton8920

Жыл бұрын

Sunak seems like the least worst, the very, VERY worst option has to be Truss, she'll end up starting WW3

this nightmare feels forever ago yet we still haven’t woke up

I reckon it'll be either Mordant or Truss, the membership are wary of Rishi and another woman pm promising tax cuts just feeds into the nostalgia, besides the membership have a track record of picking a terrible candidate ( for the country )Hague, IDS, Howard, (Cameron, Boris...)

I wanted Tom, but I think Sunak is my second choice

@bowiemcgrath8180

Жыл бұрын

Sunak does seem like the most competent and well versed on economics. Tom was a bit weak and an outsider so it makes sense he got eliminated.

@kedbacon3832

Жыл бұрын

Oh great, we end up with all the cockroaches from johnsons cabinet, great

@davidty2006

Жыл бұрын

@@bowiemcgrath8180 yet again sunak is the corrupt tax dodger and has backed boris throughout all the scandels. and the public hates him

While I'm not particularly thrilled for any of them to be PM, I'm hoping for either Sunak or Mordaunt. Truss and Badenoch are much too right for my liking, and they've put too much focus on this imported American-esque "Woke" bullshit. Not the kind of thing we need to be putting energy into at the moment...

@danunpronounceable8559

Жыл бұрын

Why not? Woke mentality is literally destroying our institutions. I mean, people can't even agree that a women is an adult human female and people are still afraid of limiting immigration for fear of being called racist, which would sort many of the problems we are currently facing *cough* housing crisis *cough*...more energy certainly needs to be put into it.

@MrWasjig

Жыл бұрын

@@danunpronounceable8559 Immigration is causing the housing crises? That's a weird way to spell "foreign money laundering".

@danunpronounceable8559

Жыл бұрын

@@MrWasjig demand for housing is primarily caused by population increase, and a limited extent by money laundering, which is mostly focused in London property. This is why limiting mass immigration is a policy which advantages the working class across the nation.

@jackb0nes13

Жыл бұрын

@@MrWasjig Immigration is causing the housing crisis, just no one will talk about it except Kemi. More people mean lower wages, it also means we need to build more houses, our population is a declining one, if it wasn't for immigration it would be a buyers market. No one is saying that we should stop all immigrants either but we are taking in far too many than we can handle. It is without a doubt keeping wages low and house prices high. If you look at the graphs of immigration and house prices they scale together.

@ricardobarahona3939

Жыл бұрын

You must be an idiot to think immigration is causing the housing crisis, no white paper supports that except conservatives who need a boogeyman to defend their handlers, such lazy thinking. Also the same BA on immigration lowering wages just shows how weak labour is because it shows that employers are lowering wages without any pushback or solidarity.

Does anyone know when the next debates are?

why does this guy never blink

Picking the minster who raise tax when he was in charge….

Of course the Tory MPs threw Tugendhat away, he set himself aside from the circlewank. The circlewank is everything. Wankers watch out for wankers.

Interesting that the selection process is a sophisticated form of PR, not simple FTTP.

Keep in mind, this is not of the people, but within the MPs. The polling doesn't really reflect what the MPs were thinking, but the electorate generally. From the American perspective, the more a candidate represents the people the more the political establishment tries to crush that candidate. Makes sense they would get rid of Tugenhat now.

@benharis1956

Жыл бұрын

Same with voting of issues like LGBTQ, abortion, cannot people have referendum on them issues?

badenoch has been impressive.

Kemi badenoch 🔥

I thought some people said Mordaunt hasnt been in the navy - only trained in the naval reserves

Do you have a TL:DR version 😂

4:00 so the only conservative who isn't a homophobe or transphobe is forced to become one to have any chance in the party. How disgusting.

@RCEASTMIDLANDS

Жыл бұрын

People disagreeing with your opinion doesn't make them "transphobic". You're alienating the public and have reduced public acceptance of LGBT people, making us all less safe, for the first time in decades. That's your fault for being an extremist. New polling from today even shows that less than a quarter of people in the UK even support your extreme arguments for language policing and far-reaching Self ID laws. You're losing and you're dragging LGB people down with you.

@atwarroyal8770

Жыл бұрын

Because conservatives are more 'likely' to be against LGBT stuff, and they tend not to like it. So it was expected for them to elect people who take hard conservative stand against that nast* stuff.

@RCEASTMIDLANDS

Жыл бұрын

@@atwarroyal8770 The conservative party isn't against LGBT stuff though - there's a pushback by society against extreme things being largely pushed by the left (drag queen story time and using kids as guinea pigs for irreversible and dangerous hormone treatments for example), and this is being reflected by the Conservative party, while Labour MPs bury their heads and pretend they don't know what a woman is.

@atwarroyal8770

Жыл бұрын

@@RCEASTMIDLANDS but it isnt a crime to be aainst lgbtq

@wile123456

Жыл бұрын

@@RCEASTMIDLANDS not supporting trans people isn't an opinion issue. They deserve equal rights and Healthcare like everyone else. Simple as that.

As a Dane, was there a particular reason you got rid of May? I mean, maybe her awfulness has just gotten overshadowed by Boris but the only bad thing I remember about her was that she tried to deliver on Brexit's impossible promises and thus knew nothing but failure.

@TheMoonRover

Жыл бұрын

She couldn't get her Brexit deal through parliament. The Conservative party decided a new leader might have a better chance. Otherwise, she was probably the most competent Prime Minister we've had in quite a while.

@oskarrasmussen7137

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMoonRover Sounds like I remembered her well then. Although maybe it was only because she wasn't PM long enough to fuck up.

@baronvonlimbourgh1716

Жыл бұрын

She refused to do what boris did. Split off northern ireland to get brexit before the deadline.

How did Hunt get 18 votes when 20 had to back him to get in... Real confidence being shown there.

It may have been said before, but it feels like Conclave. Awaiting the Sr Tory whip to announce "Habeus Papam"

I was wondering is Critical Race Theory (CRT) a real thing in the UK?

@GeordiSteve

Жыл бұрын

No it isn't. Which doesn't stop various unscrupulous right-wingers manufacturing hysteria about it in a frantic attempt to distract from the utter disaster they are making of every other aspect of the economy and society. So in that aspect we are just like the US.

@danunpronounceable8559

Жыл бұрын

No, but leftists want you to think it is a problem that needs to be solved (it has no solution). That's why the anti-woke candidate badenoch is good for the leadership

@SplashTasty

Жыл бұрын

No and it's not even a real thing in the US. It's talked about in highly academic fields and not in elementary schools. Same in the UK. It's a fear mongering tool. CRT was NOT a thing people talked about within the last few years, and the Tories have been in power the last 10 years. If CRT had been introduced to the curriculum, it would have been the Tories who did it lol

@baronvonlimbourgh1716

Жыл бұрын

Sure, it can basicly be whatever you want it to be. Like all the other meaningless words they use.

Soon Liz will not only promise to cut all taxes, but also refund the taxes from previous years.

It's time for Lord buckethead to step up.

@baronvonlimbourgh1716

Жыл бұрын

That would be easilly the best option.

Anyone else find it suspicious this video only showed Badenoch speaking for like 3 seconds?