Mark, I have made several comments on this before without your commenting. The first comment was in more detail. I have 2 Canon R3s and both have had similar AF issues, but this has to do with menu settings. Added to the note will be to disable Subject Tracking and Eye detection. I use the R3 AF setup just as I had my 1DX2s, and I have had no issues. However, I have encountered the same on the iDX2 when shooting night games and the players are wearing dark jerseys and no number on the chest for good contrast detection. I have also disabled Preview AF and be sure to pre-focus on the far goal, so that if there is action there, the R3 will not hunt for focus.when using a 400mm. In that perspective, set the R3 to Lens drive to ON when AF is impossible and then hit the BF again and repeat until focus is regained. Also, do a half shutter press to wake up the camera as you bring the viewfinder to you eye,particularly if the camera settings are in a sleep power mode.

@georgedavall9449

3 ай бұрын

Solid 👍

@emu256

3 ай бұрын

Use a DSLR and you won't have this problem

@Van-Life-The-Great-Outdoors

3 ай бұрын

He won't comment, head in the clouds lol, dreaming of why Canon is so crap now. Photography has changed, from quality cameras to gimmicks that don't work. Overpriced junk. My R6 never worked right until it got flooded out by rain; it was under warranty. Canon told me all the top sealing was missing, though it had faults elsewhere. They fixed it, and they fixed the focusing issues. Look at Canon's firmware updates, mostly fixing faults. Canon produces junk that works when it feels like it. It's not photography anymore but a thing to keep its fans happy. 'Hey, we just brought out a new camera with a new shiny button,' and shock horror, the kids will flock to buy it. I don't normally comment on photographers' channels due to that clicky nature they have, and very sure this one fits that bill, but had to on this one.

@sportsshooter2574

3 ай бұрын

Why buying a 5K camera when you have to disable Subject Tracking and Eye detection? I use the R6 along the 1Dx MKII and the AF on the R6 with Subject Tracking and Eye detection is fantastic. Value for money the R6 is much better than the R3.. and I have been using it shooting pro - football for almost two years

@contentm3893

3 ай бұрын

You shouldn't have to disable subject tracking and eye tracking. Mark needs to send the camera and lens to Canon and have them verify that everything is on spec.

This exact same thing happened to me with a shoot on March 28th with my Canon R6 with the 70 - 200 f.2.8 Mark II. Went into manual mode to finish because it was being reliable. The red box issue happened and the it might eventually work, but it didnt occur until I was halfway done for the day.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Ah no way! Well keep an eye out on here as think I’ve sorted the issue now with a simple setting change! So annoyed but we live n learn!

@CliftonOubre

3 ай бұрын

​@@MarkKertonI was thinking my autofocus on the lens was done for. I will be trying a few different things too, so as to see if there are other fixes. Appreciate the video and you have a subscriber.

Getting lucky is just as good as taking a great shot on purpose. Great job Mark!

Great vid as always Mark . sorry to hear your focusing problem nothing worse. Great set of pics from Chesterfield . Mmmmm the weekend its got to be Toon Army.

Same issue here. Even with my 100-300 RF and 400mm. I’ve been using Nikon Z8 for my games because so far it hasn’t let me down. I bought two R3 specifically for sports but the AF has let me down in crucial moments.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Top video. Love your work.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Thanks, appreciate that👍🏻

No issues with my Z9! 😉

@tedshillitto6886

3 ай бұрын

Likewise I have no problems but I do feel for the Canon guys. Hope they soon get the antidote....GPS does sound promising !! Nice vid Mark.

@michaels8607

3 ай бұрын

Z9 is not CaNON...????????????????????????You better not have an issue with a $39,393,939,393,939.67 camera..

I had the same problem with my canon R7..It was the adaptor that caused all the problems for me..hope you get it sorted..

Hi Mark. I feel your pain I have a R6mk2 and to say I am having issues adjusting to it..last week after watching your tutorial I thought I would give it a go with the EF 70-200. Initially I had the same issue when lifting the camera to my eye it would not Bl**dy focus and you have to hunt around looking for something for it to catch… I found in the AF settings purple courted ones on the R6 it’s option 3 “Lens Drive when AF impossible” change to “ON”. Covered a game on Sunday worked a dream.. still not sure on the auto eye detection possibility of going back to old school on that

@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision

3 ай бұрын

Ever tried the 3 button focus approach ? Work wonders on my r6 2

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Old school is defo best when trying to out the eye detection a people tracking at football! Just to much going on for the tech to keep up with! Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Nice one mark, glad its all going well, apart from the focusing problems..I have same issues with my 5D mk4 with the sigma 150 600mm lens from time to time..very frustrating when it happens just as nice owl dives onto some prey or the like..not quite as important as you missing a goal mind as that is a potential money shot..hope you can get it resolved..

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Martin. That’s a pain with your missed owl action! Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Good luck. 🤞🏻

I had issues some time ago with a brand new 1D4 , trying to convince Canon that I had a duffer , any I sent it in to CPS ,then they sent a loaner , a really knocked about body , but it worked brilliantly , so I now know it was not me . CPS replaced much of the internals and sent it back , and it was as it should have been . I have used my 70-200 2.8 mk2 for many years and will change it when they get RF version right ( internal focus and short zoom throw ) .

I did sports photography as a hobby and for high school yearbooks in the 80's. I think it's still easier to use manual focus than to rely on auto focus for anything other than quickly locking in on an area in the frame.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Issue now solved, hopefully! One final test at today’s game, and I will knock up a quick video on what I have changed settings wise! I can imagine you were busy with manual focus. That is an art in itself with sports photography.

I have the r6 mk2, and when shooting events (non-sports), the focus randomly jumps around when there are multiple people (when they are standing still), like 30 times a second, until i repress the shutter...I feel like all this new tech isn't quite there yet sadly. Myself included, may go back to a simpler camera now!

Which focusing mode are you using? On my Z9 I can set a box area for it to focus. When that doesn’t work, I use single point or 3D and lock it on the subject. That’s prob what I would try for your circumstances.

I have had exactly the same issues with the R5. I have lost no end of shots after the camera has been on standby and I pick it up to take the shots of low flying aircraft. I only have a couple of seconds to pick it up and get the thing in the frame and press the back button....then nothing. now, if I think an aircraft is about to appear I take the battery out to Re-boot the camera. That seems to work.I originally thought it was a lens issue. I use the 500 f4 mk2 but tried a 100-400 mk2...same issue. I have just updated the firmware to 2.0 and there is supposed to be a fix for the standby mode response. Fingers crossed.

Any possibility manual focus ring is knocked - I experienced something like this on a Nikon - and until I released BBF - it wouldn't snap out of it and resume AF, IF the focus ring was nudged when focused and BBF active or during acquisition the ring was being moved.

I'm having a focus problem with the Canon R7 + Canon EF 70-200 2.8 USM I. It doesn't focus well and some images simply lose focus in the sequence, even though the subject appears in focus on the screen. I've already tested it with the II version of the lens, it improves a little, but unlike DSLRs, I don't feel like it focuses well. I use a Canon EF/RF adapter.

I had same kind of focus issues last summer on the R6 / RF 70-200, shooting orienteering. It was sunny and bright day and enough contrast for my subject. Perhaps there was too many faces for the algorithm to control the sitiation? I was similarly frustrated.

This same autofocus problem appears in my EOS R8 and (EOS 250d/Rebel SL3 depends where you live) just for no reason it just stops taking photos

Heh, I returned an r3 Immediatwly after buying one. Still love my 1dx going strong at 1 milllion plus clicks

Ive had issues with adapters with all the brands so i definitely think its an adapter issue.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Since this video, I have changed one simple setting, and it seems to have solved the issue! One final test at today’s game, and I will knock up a quick video later on

I created a shortcut in the green area for fast disabling subject tracking, in certain situations helps. I own rf 85mm f/1.2 and multiple EF mount lenses, native and 3-rd party, with a ring adapter version, i see no difference of focusing between lenses. The only difference i found was that with EF glass images are darker with the same settings, probable because of the closer distance of the RF glass to the sensor.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Very interesting that. Has to be some sort of difference with the extra distance between sensor and Lens definitely! Hopefully, my problem is now solved with a simple settings change! Quite annoying but good all the same. One last test at today’s game and I will put a quick video out.

Here i thought it was my lenses. Both my 70-2002.8 II and 24-70 2.8 II ef adapted to rf just inexplicably stop focusing. Just see the green square mid frame and no response. Restarting the camera solves it. I shoot fashion, between 3000-6000 frames a day on a busy shoot.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

This sounds exactly like my problem! Hopefully, now all solved with a simple settings change! Quite annoying but glad I’ve come across it. One last test at today’s game and I will put a quick video out later on

Hi, No issues with my R3 using RF lenses, such as RF 100-500. However last weekend I was using the R3 with the adapter and EF500 F4 , and it struggled to lock on to my subject.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

This is way I haven't moved to mirrorless yet. Heard many good things about it all but also some things not so good. Absolutely love my 1DX's, they're brilliant. Suppose at some point I will have to move over but not just yet. Great video though Mark - hopefully see you at another game before the season ends 👍

Two things other than the rant with the camera. 1: He looked offside in the first out of focus shot, what do you think? 2: Celly? Widey? Major blessing? Abbreviations or just local banter? Also I've watched our local teams from the sideline's after shooting from the field, hated it! 😀 All in good fun. lovely cover image .

Just a quick note to my previous post - have you added lens firmware on the cameras? - I don't know about EF lenses but on RF lenses you can - also not aware if this makes a difference? Cheers

You should try the Canon R7, the autofocus is awful as it keeps jumping on to and off the subject. KZread: CANON RESPOND, THEIR ADMISSION SURPRISED ME!

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Try back button focus as a test Mark, I know your hand doesn't gel with that but try it in the garden. But yes there is a gremlin with the AF tracking square going red and locking.

@dbenedict357

3 ай бұрын

I second this. Behind The Shot podcast does a good job explaining double back button focus it in their full review of the Canon Autofocus System.

@dbenedict357

3 ай бұрын

Also David Bergman thanks Steve for explaining it in one of his videos.

it happened with my R5, R& and R10. i sold all (after 10 years with canon and bought Olympus. It also happened in single shot. I needed to power off, get the battery out and start again, then it worked for about an hour. terrible.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Oh dear, sounds like you had a bad time of it! I have been Canon all my photography life and I’m very loyal now so would find it very hard to swap! Hopefully, I have solved the issue now with one simple setting change! Quite frustrating but will explain everything in a video later on this week.

I am at Peterborough as well :)

As I have stated in a previous comment on your last video, I have experienced some issues but not like you describe. In this video you mentioned something about holding the button down and it not working correctly. Are you using back button focus? If not, try that. All my bodies are set up that way, to include my R3.

I don't shoot Canon but if you having issues don't you just focus to infinity until you get it sorted out?

I have experienced freezing when using the adapter and an EF300mm lens, but no freezing with the RF70-200mm. It is surprising to hear people say they have freezing with an R3/RF70-200 combo. As far as subject tracking and staying on the primary subject when shooting soccer is an issue. Seems to have trouble reacquiring the primary subject if a person crosses in front of them. I use back button focus, and I always have to release & press the button again.

I am not in the canon camp , but I may suggest to try and rent an RF lense see if it locks out, then maybe it's time to switch, but that's up to you. Otherwise it's wait for R3 MRK II, canon are not strong on FW updates ( or the upcoming R1) or Sony / Nikon :)

From what I gather, there are more pins on the mount than the adapter, those additional pins (not being used by the adapter) are AF specific for native glass, so to use adapted glass on a body like this should be thought of as a intermediate solution and not the full experience. Rant when the camera fails with native glass, and yes these are incredibly expensive combos but that's where we're at with it all. Still sucks though.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

I have tried the RF 70-200 and absolutely hated it! It definitely needs to have an internal zoom like the ear version, for sport anyway. The twist movement from 70 to 200 is so much more than on the EF version and the telescopic movement was offputting as well! I have heard that Canon are reevaluating The RF lens to copy the internal design of the EF Lens, so hopefully that should be out later on this year. Anyway, hopefully I have now solved the issue with a simple settings change! Annoying but good all the same one less test at today’s game, and I will pop a video out later.

It definitely Canon problem

I have very good results with my 2 R5's shooting an old 600 f4. Glad I didn't go the R3 direction.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Hopefully I have solved the issue with simple setting change. Very frustrated, but glad to have sorted it! One final test at today’s game and I will knock up a quick video.

@dons_trains

3 ай бұрын

@@MarkKerton I'm keen to see the result as I have been thinking an R3 may go well in my kit. They are a reasonable price now.

As the old saying goes, if it's not broken, don't fix it. Maybe best to get the cameras that work better in that setting out.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Hi Mark - Is your Multi- Controller button set to AF point movement ? The AF point may have been shifted down the screen slightly in error and focused on the grass in the foreground. It appears that the camera was lifted up slightly on the last photo which was in focus. Obviously pressing the Multi-Controller re-centres the AF point back into the middle of the screen. Where was the Red Box focus point showing on the images when viewed in the camera ? Or could it be that your R3 is telling you to use Back Button Focus 😂

I had a lot of initial AF issues with my R3 that absolutely frustrated me for ~2 months and they were ALL MY FAULT. Both setup issues and unlearning DSLR and learning the MLC way of doing things. Once I adapted and fixed my settings, the R3 performed and has continued to perform for a year now. What did I do wrong? 1. I had the AF controller enabled to move the AF point. As I was back button focusing, my finger was moving the AF point around, so the camera wasn't focusing on what I thought it was/wanted it to. Disabling this solved 1 issue. 2. I had the eye control AF enabled via a 2nd back button. As I was new to the camera, and still relatively new to back button focusing, I kept pressing the wrong back button, accidentally enabling the eye controlled AF and again not focusing on what I wanted. I disabled eye control AF completely and re-programmed the 2nd back button to its original intended action. The last solution wasn't a setting issue, but an AF method. Single focus on a subject works differently between DSLRs and MLCs. I kept using the AF controller button to gain focus on the bird, and then enable the eye detect AF. The camera didn't really want to focus on BIFs, but did perform OK with perched/static birds. Anyway, fellow photographers told me to pre-focus to a similar distance to my subject, then engage the eye detect AF. Et voila! These 3 things fixed ALL of my R3 AF issues. Caveat: I am using an older mark 1 EF 500f4 prime. It's AF performance is much slower than the mark 2 version of this lens, and it's AF accuracy is a tiny bit worse too. The mark 2 version has dual AF motors (and these motors are more powerful than the mark 1 unit's single AF motor). I am also using a mark 3 1.4x TC. I am saving up to upgrade to the mark 2 version as it's initial AF acquisition is significantly faster and more accurate than my mark 1 unit. Once the mark 1 lens is locked on, it's actually very good at tracking the subject (the mark 2 is better, but not by much imho). Note: the 1.4x III TC has a AF chip in it that has been designed to work with all of the mark 2 super telephoto primes and provide better performance when using the TC. My mark 1 lens gains no benefit from this AF chip sadly so I am losing performance. The mark 1 lens is still very good, don't get me wrong and I highly recommend the unit to those who want a big White prime for birding photography but can't afford the mark 2 version or a RF600f4 (don 't go with the RF600f4 anyways, the mark 2 EF 600f4 is optically sharper). The R3 is superb. My only current issue is balancing the brightness of the EVF to the rear LCD screen and both to being accurate to the actual exposed image. Canon CPS Australia have also kindly assisted with my issues and have made some recommendations to AF tweaks that may improve initial AF acquisition for those of us using the older mark 1 lenses or 3rd party EF lenses. I have not tested these amended settings yet but I trust my contact at Canon Australia CPS (he is also a birder, and also personally owns a R3).

Although I've had this happen with a 400D and a much cheaper lens, I think it might be the same thing: The camera didn't register the change between M and AF modes. When I changed modes, I had to loosen the lens from the bajonet and click it back, only then would the camera "know" what mode I was in. The lens works in a 90D without problems. I suspect a communications error of the interface. Funny thing is, that this error only developed after a couple of years, it was okay when the camera was new.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Just wondering if you had a loose screw on either the body or lens bayonet plates? I suffered this once on my 400 and it was a couple of loose screws on the bayonet cap. Tightened them and the issue went. Worth a quick check. Hopefully, a simple settings Change has solved my issue now. One last test at today’s game and I will knock up a quick video.

Must be an issue with the Camera body or a batch of Canons have an issue.

Hi mate same big problems with my r3 and r5 can you let canon know as they Don't listen to us good luck

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Think I’ve fixed it today! Video out early next week👍🏻

I’ve had quick focus issues on the R6 version 1, 70-200 II, never noticed it when attached to the 7D MKII

@stubones

3 ай бұрын

I've never had an issue with the ef 70-200 ii on my R6 ii (in fact its been spectacular), but the ef 100-400 ii has been erratic to say the least... On Sunday I was shooting football and at the start of the day I was getting maybe 60% in focus (the rest were, as Mark describes, Muzzy... but not totally off, just soft), but surprisingly as they day went on it became better and better to the point it nailed focus 9/10 times. I'm wondering if it isn't ef lens IS fighting the IBIS that might be the issue.. Not sure, but I'm going to make sure I keep the IS off from now on. Don't need it anyway when shooting at fast shutter speeds...

@jamesr5564

3 ай бұрын

@@stubones good suggestion. Going to have to turn off the IS and see what happens.

Found this online as a guy who had his R3 replaced fully too....1) I experienced freeze-ups with my Canon R3 the first week I received it. 2) Canon CPS took the camera in for repair, replicated the issue, reinstalled the firmware, reset it to factory settings, tested it, found no more freeze-ups, declared it fixed and returned it to me. 3) I restored my settings manually and the freeze-ups still occurred. 4) Canon replaced my original R3 with a brand new R3 5) I updated my firmware to V1.1.1 and restored my settings from a CSD file this time, and the freeze-ups still occurred. 6) In all cases my freeze-ups were such that the buttons and dials would not respond (including power switch), yet touch functions still functioned including the smart controller. It would also freeze-up, at times, while asleep and could not be awakened. Of course, since the screen was black (asleep), no touch function could work. The only way to restore the camera was to pull the battery and then reboot the camera. I have since, of course, contacted Canon and am awaiting a response, as Canon's engineering department seems to be in a denial mode, despite a Canon repair technician in Virginia having replicated the freeze-up issue when it first went in for repair. I advised Canon that while I await their response, I was going to, one by one, change my settings to default and see if any particular setting eliminated the freeze-ups. My first setting change was to restore the aperture and speed change dial settings to default, as I had them reversed. No change. I still had freeze-ups, so I restored my setting. Next, I reasoned that, since the freeze-up even occurred while the camera was asleep, the only function I had changed that would involve activity during the sleep mode would be the GPS setting, which I had set to Mode 2. I disabled the GPS altogether. Since I have done so, I have left the camera on 24x7. Not once has it failed to awaken from sleep mode nor has it frozen at all while awake and being used. I have been testing for a solid week now (on 24x7) and I'm optimistic that this is the cause of the freeze-ups, as before I could rarely go a day without a freeze-up. I'm asking that some of you who are experiencing freeze-ups with the R3 such as I have been experiencing to check this setting and 1) verify it is enabled on your camera and 2) verify that by disabling it that the freeze-ups no longer occur. Similarly, those of you who have an R3 and have experienced no freeze-ups, can you verify that your GPS is disabled.

@MrModerate_kane

3 ай бұрын

on most cannon sites now about it

@martinsvoboda1541

3 ай бұрын

Hi from Czech republic. I've had my EOS R3 for less than two weeks. Yesterday, while shooting with the RF 28-70/2 lens, it froze for the first time - I had to remove the battery, exactly as you write. I will try your setup with GPS, thanks!

@Severisj

3 ай бұрын

I have had all the same problems with R3s. There is a new FW 1.7.1. Lets hope it resolve the issues...

Had the R3 for 2 years and had freeze-ups with GPS on and old EF lenses with Canon connecter. Since turning of f the GPS setting which I read about over a year ago and changed to RF lenses only, it works perfectly every time. I now have the RF 100-500 L, RF 70-200 2.8 L and the RF 24-70 2.8 L and have never had a problem since! I have shot Ice Skating - wildlife (Birds mostly) - Cars - Bikes - People etc. with no issues at all. I had a EF 70-200 lens after a while of shooting seemed to cause the problem or only seemed to freeze on this lens. Now I only use native glass and have no problems at all - The RF lenses are amazing. I ALWAYS USE "CASE 2" WITH -2 AND +2 TRACKING (AF - 2 in menu) with Subject Tracking set to "ON" for everything and only change the "Subject to detect" when the subject changes. It now NEVER MISSES. I hope you solve the problem Mark cos i enjoy your channel and know it's so frustrating when it goes wrong at the worst time. All the best mate.

@NTKJ909

3 ай бұрын

I had the same issues with R6 and EF70-200 using electronic shutter - it had locked up many times during the game to the point I had to pull the battery. Fixed by switching to airplane mode, not a single lock-up since then. Someone (I think on reddit) mentioned that it tries to refresh GPS data, then tries to search for phone (R6 doesn't have onboard gps) and when in crowded areas, it can lead to lock up. I use back button focus, in fact I have 3 different focus modes mapped to rear buttons (person af, eye af, fixed point trade-off for quick recall for panning shot - I have that mapped on different custom mode on the mode dial, if I feel like trying panning shots, I flick to C3 and then back to C2 for normal use)

I also shoot with an R3 and an R5 but have had the opposite to you Mark. My R5 misses focus now and then but my R3 has never missed a beat. I shoot running and cycliung events, so people coming steadily towards me and not eratic like football, but I switch from person to person quickly and when it's busy it can get pretty crazy. I do have two observations... 1 - I have found both the R5 and R3 to be more resposive and reliable when using RF lenses. I used EF lenses with an adapter for a while and whilst they were still as sharp as ever, they were slightly slower then the RF counerparts and would miss a little bit more. 2 - I know you aren't a back button focus user, but it mighht be worth tryingl. I have a feeling (and this is just a feeling wirth no evidence to back it up whatsoever) that my R5 and R3 both focus betetr and more reliably with back buttoin focus. It also allows me to have three different focus modes on the back of the camers (AF-ON is for face tracking with Eye-AF, * is for old scholl single point focus, and the third option is the same you have for panning). I hope you get it sorted as the R3 is (in my opinion) by far and away the best camera for sports and leaves old DSLRs for dust.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

@OliverMay1

3 ай бұрын

@@MarkKerton I hope it works for you and I'm very interested in seeing what your fix is 🙂

So an R3 with a EF lens? Basically you have a mirrorless 1DxYoydont get the fullbenfits of the rcamerasAF using adaptedEFlens.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

I have tried the RF 70-200 but did not like it at all! Hopefully, Canon have listened to us, and will be redesigning the RF lens to the same specifications as the EF internals fingers crossed! Saying all that, hopefully I have solved the issue with a simple settings change, video up later on

I always thought or heard (from a lot of the vloggers) Canon and Sony had the best/reliable auto focus.

I don't shoot canon but possibly a focus limiter setting?

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Try different Case settings for tracking.

Do you have the focus point position showing on review to see where it focused ? What case no. were you using ?, try using Case Auto mine has never missed a beat

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Was on auto, changed from case 4. Focus point was bang on the player in play back. Hopefully sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

@dcurleyifa

3 ай бұрын

@@MarkKerton ok, looking for to next vid 👍🏻👍🏻

I have the same issue with my R6.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

I’ve had that happen on the Nikon Z8

From what I can see, your lens is about to fail the autofocus system. Exactly this happened with a 70-200 F2.8 here in Brazil. It is not the autofocus motor, but the integrated circuit that controls the motor. Look for the CPS in your region and if they have questions, ask them to contact the CPS in Brazil for help. Hugs.

Same issues with the R7, locks up, dose not matter if im out doing macro with the 100mm macro lens or using the 70-200mm lens same will happen and it struggles big time in certain areas in finding subject also, i am so dam frustrated with canon with this and other things, thankfully i cant afford the R3 as if i could i think i would be looking at a new brand sadly, i have been with canon my whole photography journey but starting to have a few regrets.

@jameslewisphotography431

3 ай бұрын

Oh and another focus issue is when doing portraits I have had issues with back focusing, it locks the eye then within 2 seconds it back focus and hunts again very strange and annoying

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like you’ve had a bad run of it like myself! Well, keep your eyes peeled as I think I have sorted the issue with a simple setting! Tested it on Friday and it did not miss a beat! Another test today at my game, and if all goes well, which I am confident it will, I will pop up a quick video later on. Hopefully, it might sort your issues too.

@jameslewisphotography431

3 ай бұрын

@@MarkKerton sounds good shame it takes the community to sort through issues you think canon would have a Facebook and Instagram for all their camera systems and have work arounds and issues brought up by users so we can eventually end up with a robust system, canon needs to start to realise that it's the community of canon users that keeps their pay checks coming in, just to get support from this company is a headache, not just a canon issue but if canon can be more engaged in their users we may actually get a robust system with work arounds and faster updates for our gear, they just seem they care about the top 1% of photographers and the rest have to go through so much research and red tape to just find a work around for issues that is a easy fix with firmware updates or just being honest with users of device shortfalls

You should try shooting swimming if you want AF issues. I’ve shot enough swimming that I can usually get a 60-70% hit rate depending on swim stroke, sun glare, and water splash.

I was told this is an issue with mirrorless bodies when there is a big shift in focus distance and as a result I have set my camera up with double back button focusing, one is set up on spot AF in the centre, the other on eye AF. I tap once to acquire initial AF then hold to get eye AF on the other. Works every time.

@davepastern

3 ай бұрын

if you're going to use the eye controlled AF, this is the way to go. That's if the eye controlled AF works well for you - it doesn't work well for everyone, especially those with Blue/Green eyes that have a paler retina.

@guydunn7414

3 ай бұрын

@@davepastern to be fair I do more wildlife than sports and have to use BBF as the focus won’t shift when something moves either really close to or far away. So I need to get the AF in the right area by quickly tapping on spot AF followed by Eye AF to then track and lock on the eye.

@davepastern

3 ай бұрын

@@guydunn7414 same here (birding). That's what I do btw. spot AF, then eye AF.

Sony A1.

I hope the issue is solved with the new firmware but I do know the R3 is one complicated detailed camera . Lol 👍🏻✅🇨🇦📸

This is one of the major reasons I switched to the OM Systems OM1 MkII. The focus is state of the art plus weight, cost savings, and image quality, make the switch a no brainer.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

I’m afraid I am too loyal to Canon, having been with them all my career! Hopefully, a simple settings change has solve the issue. Video out later after the final test today.

Not perhaps card issues, struggling to write to it or buffering? Try a different brand

I'd cut my losses and sell the R3 whilst values are still high. What actual benefit are you getting from it at the moment? I guess only you can gauge that, but it seems it's more of a liability than an asset at the moment

Hi Mark, I have had my R3 from day 1 of release. I have not had any issues with the AF on both EF and RF lenses. Its on the latest firmware. I use both Canon and 3rd Party Adapters with no issues. I use AF Servo, Expanded AF Point, Eye Focus, Case 4, electronic shutter and a Mk3 EF 400mm F2.8 and RF 70 - 200 F2.8 and the 24-105 F2.8. I feel your frustration. If you lived close I would lend you mine for a week to see the difference. Hope you get it sorted soon. It is a beast when it works I guess.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the positive comment👍🏻 Now all sorted thankfully! One simple setting change and boom, all is good. Video up later today👍🏻

If you haven’t wiped the card … replay the sequence on the LCD screen… u will see where the focus points are… I had a problem on a fast flying bird … on my r3 and worked out it was my fault… I use back button focus ..3 buttons…one spot .. one eye.. one partial…I accidentally used spot.. but the bird was so erratic I couldn’t keep up

Give Frankie Jim a call at Canon UK, he is part of the CPS/Canon club team, he will sort the R3 for you , he can make most R cameras sing 👏👏👏

Have you tried firmware 1.7.1 yet?

The moral of this story is: If it ain't broke don't fix it. If nothing wrong with 1dx's why change?

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

It’s the extra tech that persuaded me Keiron! Think I’ve sorted it now. Video up soon👍🏻

If I were a camera, I wouldn’t want to focus on Spireites either. Jus’ sayin’.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

I photograph wildlife, and I've no experience with doing sport but there are some similarities... With wildlife, a common problem with mirrorless cameras is getting the focus locked onto the background. Once that's happened, the camera can't "see" a subject that's closer to you and so subject detect is useless. What you've experienced is different - the focus is actually locked on the foreground, but the camera is still struggling to identify a human shape. Anyway, I and a lot of wildlife photographers work around the dreaded "background lock" by using two or even three back buttons for focus. Personally, I use two - one of them for my main settings, such as a large area box or whole frame, and the other set to spot AF. If my camera refuses to grab a subject with my main button, I use the spot focus button to grab the subject (or at least get pretty close) and then hand back to my main setting, which will work as it should 99 per cent of the time. It's clumsy at times and it helps if you have fast focussing lenses, but it's dug me out of many AF holes since I started using mirrorless bodies. Good luck.

Almost 100% hit rate with my K3-III with the lastest frmware

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

1.7.1 firmware now loaded, combined with a simple settings, Change has solved the issue! I am thinking it is more the settings change that has cured the problem. One last test at today’s game and I will pop a video out later.

Leaving out the 1Dx was a mistake. Being a hobbyist, I could have done so with my 1D Mark IV + EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II USM.

Same for me Mark, the R3 focusing has let me down a few times. Im now trying the R3 on the 400mm and the R5 on the 70-200. It's not ideal tbh. Im considering going back to the 1DX mk 2or3

And this is why I will never replace my 1DX DSLR are proven to me, mirrorless aint. Good luck.

@HeathBlythe

3 ай бұрын

You remind me of the people who refused to move from film to digital.

@EnidAgnusDei

3 ай бұрын

@@HeathBlythe Film is better, Digital fair more easy to use and faster to process, so for work digital, for pleasure film.

Thats weird my friend has the same camera and never had any issue but maybe its because Höje has some other changes

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

@Herkulez1981

3 ай бұрын

@@MarkKerton keep us updated :)

That has got to be very frustrating!? Hmm, ‘R3,’ to ‘1D3?’ Did you catch my daft comparison there? 😆 There must be something You have missed, I don't know? Some good comments in here, and good luck getting er sorted! Some great shots nonetheless! Cheers!

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Oh I missed something all right! Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

I've been fighting with my R6 ii and ef 100-400 ii when shooting football. Only about 50% of images have been critically sharp and sometimes it just doesn't focus. Just does nothing. I think I might have sussed it though... I might have mistakely left the IS on the lens when using a monopod and I think it's been fighting with the IBIS. Focus with my 70-200 ii has been insanely brilliant (IS is always off when shooting off a pod.) Playing around with the R6 ii and 100-400 ii at home shooting fast moving birds, focus has been quick and accurate.. with the lens IS off. Also 100% do not use eye tracking when shooting field sports if you work quickly. Its fine if you let it settle and track for a second or so, but if you snap onto a subject and shoot, you're going to be disappointed.

@enri_1986

3 ай бұрын

Yup, I also had the 100-400 II on an R6 II. AF on contrasty subjects was perfect but I felt like erratic movements across small portions of the frame threw the AF out of balance. Never an issue with my RF 70-200 2.8 and I’ve since sold the 100-400 II. It was a spectacular lens but I’m embracing the size and weight benefits of mirrorless now.

@stubones

3 ай бұрын

@@enri_1986 I was very close to packing in the R6 ii and 100-400 ii and just splurging on the R3 and RF 100-500 but I can't justify the cost. I think I got the problem sorted but the true test will be the next job. My ef 70-200 ii has never given any hassles; its super sharp and focuses very quickly and accurately on the R6 ii. If I go fully mirrorless, obviously then the EF glass has to go. 👍

Imo you're using a zone AF too much of the time. You can't always rely on zone AF with distractions in the frame, it will hunt and get confused at times. It would help to use back button focusing, and assign a secondary focus button for one of the single point area AF.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Interesting 🤔 let’s compare notes at Posh on Friday not had the issue using bbf

I have 2 R3's which are hectic work horses for the field of work I do. Intensely fast paced, up to 10 hrs a day about 4 days of the week and have never had an issue with the focus . The quality and capabilities of this camera far exceed the other brands used by others at the same events I attend. I do however only use the new RF 70-200, 100-300 and 400 lenses which I feel does make a big difference in performance.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

I’m hopefully converted again🤪 Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Nikon Z8 and Sony A1 focus perfectly.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Afraid I’m too loyal to Canon! Hopefully, the issue is now solved with a simple settings change. Quite annoying, but good at the same time! One last test today and I will pop a video up later.

This is one of the best You Tube channels for sports photography. I love the format. I love seeing the great pictures, but I like hearing how to fix the issues you encounter as well. Keep up the great work for the profession and those who want to get better at it.

Stick it in manual and pre-focus - just like we did before digital made us lazy. It ain't rocket science. If the subject is more than 19metres away there is no problem.

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Be sure your thumb isn't on the back focus button. That will make it not focus

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Sorted now I think🤞🏻One more test at Mondays game then I’ll pop a video up with the fix, a simple one too🙈

Happens twice as bad with anti flicker....

You need to throw it away, My way!!!!

Time for a Z9 m8,mines never misses a beat with or without the FTZ. Just a thought, when you updated the firmware did you uninstall the previous ones?

@stubones

3 ай бұрын

That's not how it works.. You can't uninstall firmware, its an automated process.

@markk1873

3 ай бұрын

@@stubones With my Z9 I reset the camera and them install the new firmware,installing the new firmware on top of the old . Causes problems

Mark, you ned to switch Nikon Z8/Z9 grüße Patrick

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

All sorted now👍🏻

Just go for a Sony. A1 for Example. Problem solved

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

I’m afraid I am too loyal to Canon, having used them all my career! Hopefully, the issue is now solved with a simple settings change! Annoying but good at the same time. Video out later on

Try back button focus. Actually I was a bit surprised when I realized you haven't set your camera up this way. Back button focus makes the camera do exactly as I expect, when I'm shooting sports and fast paced action. Even my fuji x100vi is set up this way for street and recreational photography. Can't imagine going back! I believe it's the same feeling trying to race a car with a fully automatic vs manual transmission - one is more user friendly the other offers superior control. I think mirrorless are ment to be shot w. back button focus, since tracking, dynamic zones and hundreds of focuspoints differentiate them from dslr's.

@davidairey963

3 ай бұрын

Same issue with the R6 Mk 2 away for repair exact same issue. Just about to get another 1DX2. Great camera but clearly an issue in auto focus system

Mark, I shoot Z9 the change in tech required a change in applying the right setting, tracking is ok in the right circumstances, but don’t let the hype and promotion get ahead of the fact you control the camera. Don’t let it control you!

1DX Mark III >>> R3

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

If the Mark three had the EVF, I would probably have gone for it!

Why not try the Nikon Z9

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

You will be surprised, but I did mutter the words Nick on last week, when it failed me! Hopefully, a simple settings Change has solved the issue one last test today, and I will pop up a video later on

Instead of crying there is a Sony...i just saved almost 16 minutes

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Haha! I’ve stopped crying now! Thanks to all these comments I spotted a setting change to make and all is sorted, I think! Final test at today’s game and I’ll pop a video up with the changes. Sony wise, great bit of kit I know but I’m kinda loyal to Canon as been using them my whole career!

@michaels8607

3 ай бұрын

@@MarkKerton See how easy it was to actually find a solution?That's exactly why I take the camera out before critical work,put it through the paces as soon as I get it. I also can care less what brand it is as long as it does it's job. I use Canon,Pentax, have used Chinon,Nikon, Olympus,and bought a few Sonys recently.

@cjm9700

3 ай бұрын

@@michaels8607 You come across like a complete bellend. Why don't you put up some of your "critical" work instead of jumping on Mark

Blimey! The R3 fanboys will be on you by the thousand! I thought the focus was the R3’s main selling point?

I'll take it off your hands, got no money but if you don't want it haha just joking! I'm debating on waiting for the R1 but I don't think it's gonna be for me so I'm gonna get the R5 and use my R6 as my back up

Steadycams are the worst. Players, fans and clubs will want stills of promotion and cup celebrations of the team in years to come. Can guarantee that video footage will collect dust in the archives

@MarkKerton

3 ай бұрын

Us photographers seem to be getting thought of less and less just lately! Stewards standing up in front of us, ball boys and girls, ground staff, it’s like we’re not there some games!

Come on you hammers? I think you meant toon toon black and white army mate 😊😉⚫️⚪️