More pulp, please. I can never get enough of it. Also cartoonish goblins. Love 'em. 🙂

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for the comment. More pulp artists will be featuring in the unsung heroes series when I get round to starting it again.

Mr.Beard - I just happened on your channel, and I'm excited to watch every single one of your videos. You've created a public archive of gold.

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot. I'm glad our paths have collided and I hope you will find plenty on the channel that;'s of interest.

He's baaack! Thank you, I enjoy these very much.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for your continued support.

One never knows where you will go in the profession of illustration. I started out as a product illustrator and graphic designer. I wound up designing exhibits, shooting and editing product instruction videos, print buying, and web design. It is very possible Edd Cartier's professional path led him to being an art director. Regardless, you have added another unsung hero to your wonderful series.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for the comment. I had a similar journey, but when things went south for me in illustration my liferaft was education. Like Cartier the regular income for nothing like as much work saved my bacon.

@gabrielerosa665

7 ай бұрын

Hi Pete, you've added another unsung hero! I have two reflections to this video: 1: passing through/by a world war is just a saddly event, and we don't how early have had parkinsons sympthoms - a hard issue to a man with his subtle line's drawings - manifested, and how he - managed or not -to bé hidden for the others. And this...could be, the reason of a redirection of his professional Life. 2: productivity/ earnings? May be... that is the reason why he didn't explore to continue color ilustrations.... But all of this are especulations....great work Pete!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

@@gabrielerosa665 Hi again, and who knows what the actual situation was for Cartier? Not me, that's for sure. He's another who very little seems to be written about. Which is why I generally concentrate on the work and what it was created for. The pictures speak clearly.

@MicahMicahel

7 ай бұрын

art director was a great job when print was king.

A VERY talented artist! Artists of this era had to be damn good, as well as speedy, something rarely seen today with computers and AI. Thanks for the presentation.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation.

I could never tell you how much pleasure your series profiling the great illustrators is giving me. I’m so grateful for the careful research and exquisite presentation that marks every installment. Thank you.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello to you, and although you say you could never tell me, you have nevertheless done just that, and your kind words are greatly appreciated. It really is good to know that viewers such as yourself really enjoy what I'm trying to do.

Thank you yet again Pete for introducing us to a lesser known yet brilliant illustrator. I absolutely love his work and particularly like his more detailed pen and ink. I wouldn't be surprised if Bernie Wrightson had been influenced by some of Cartier's work.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi and thanks for the comment. And yes I noticed that similarity.

@blackcatgraphics1483

6 ай бұрын

I was going to make the same observation about Wrightson, but you beat me to it. Definitely stands out in Bernie's early figurative design sense, and his style of weighted line use. I'd noted his Frazetta influences, but these works seem even more of an influence.

Your channel is a gift that keeps on giving Mr Beard, thank you again.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi and many thanks for your ongoing appreciation of the channel.

thanks for showcasing this, until now unknown artist, to me. I do like his style a lot. it is a shame he wasnt more widely recognized. In my opinion, art is the pinnacle of human achievement. it is the best thing we have to offer.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for your comment. And that's a sentiment I wholeheartedly agree with.

A short career but what a fantastic folder he produced in that time. Thank you for bring him to my attention.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for the appreciation.

"Who knows what talent lurks within the hearts of men? Pete Beard knows!!' Yet again you have pointed out a very talented artist, who could not only illustrate, but paint as well! I've seen some of his covers in books, dedicated to the pulp- and Sci-Fi era, but his drawings are a lovely surprise! High quality and you can see echos of inspiration - maybe - in the work of Berni Wrightson, Alan Davis, Feldstein and Wood of EC- comics fame, and maybe even Frank Frazetta! It wouldn't surprise me!!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and many thabks for your comment and observations about stylistic influence. I must say Ive never read anybody actually declaring him as an inspirational source but that of course doesn't mean he wasn't.

Thanks Pete, although a fan of Pulp illustration I was not familiar with Edd Cartier's work so thanks again for introducing me to him. Fantastic as always

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi and I'm very pleased to have introduced you to his marvellous work.

I've loved Cartier's work since I stumbled upon him in Astounding in my youth!!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

I envy you - I only discovered him a couple of years ago, but that's better than not doing.

Thanks again Pete - Amazing work from Edd Cartier! I think the only piece of his I'd seen before your video was the "I, Robot" cover at 8:50. He's so good, so accomplished, it's hard to believe he spent most of his career as an art director… Unsung Hero indeed!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and yes it's a geat shame he threw in the towel as an illustrator. I can;t help thinking he could have had great success as a book illustrator for kids especially.

Another fantastic video Pete! Edd had a real talent for monocrome drawings and the way he drew hands and fingers is fantastic! Much of his drawing style reminds me of Will Eisner when he drew the Spirit comics, wich I read as a kid! Really paying attention to the style and movement he could make the characters do! Just encredible! Thanx again for a great video Pete! Love from Denmark..

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and many thanks for your appreciation of this video and the channel content in general.

Your narrative always brings interesting insights into the artists techniques, as well as their career and their life. Thanks for another excellent episode.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and your appreciation is always welcome. Many thanks.

I really enjoyed this one! Often comic books are looked down upon by illustrators, but many comic book artists could draw rings around most illustrators that I've seen. As a comic book artist and an illustrator of childrens books, action figure packaging, and role playing game illustration, I can tell you that you have to have tremendous drawing skills to tell sequential art stories, because you're asked to draw just about anything and everything on monthly basis, and it's all on a tight deadline. You have to complete 22 pages in a month, and do it to the best of your abilities. You might be asked to draw crowded street scenes, a battleship, a famous bridge, an WWII fighter plane, and men on horseback all in the span of a single page. It's a rough and tough field to produce work in. It pays okay these days if you're working for Marvel or DC, but otherwise, not so much. The thing is, sequential art, and illustrating the fantastic gets in one's blood. Perhaps Edd Cartier didn't expand his career in illustration because he didn't want to do anything else. Sounds silly, maybe, but it's very common in modern illustration, comics, and animation. We artists are sometimes a stubborn lot, and we all see and understand "success" differently too. Anyway, if you're curious about my own work, a google search of my name will show lots of my work. I'd love to see you cover a few more recent artists like Mark Schultz, Gary Gianni, and Bernie Wrightson. All three are amazingly talented illustrators, and worthy of attention. I love your youtube channel, and I'm always looking forward to the next one!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and firstly allow me to thank you for pointing me at your own work - a real pleasure. And you are right about the 'stubborn' bit. A friend of mine was an animator whose career was going rapidly down the toilet and I suggested he tried illustration. Wouldn't even consider it and apparently preferred to just wither on the vine. I'm sorry but I generally don't do 'recent' as in still alive. But I did feature Wrightson briefly in 'between the lines' a video about black and white I did some years back.Thanks a lot for your appreciation - now get back to work...

Congratulations to Pete Beard - I've looked at many of these presentations and found it all very interesting and a pleasure to watch.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Many thanks for your comment, and it's very rewarding to know the channel is appreciated.

I really enjoyed the artist's line work and composition and imagination. Thanks again for an excellent video and series.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and many thanks for your appreciation of the video and Cartier's work.

I would be surprised how many illustrators there are worldwide. there seems to be no end. as always great! Thanks

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and it sounds like you are robably assurprised as I wa to realise how many illustrators I didn't know about. The list of those still to feature is terrifyingly long.

@VITA_AMOR_MORS_PAX

7 ай бұрын

yes, exactly. the same with the painters. You know Picasso, Monet, Dali, Braque, Dürrer, etc. but there are thousands more besides these. It almost drives you crazy. and the question is why these few are so well known and the others are not. I think with your work you are helping these unknown artists become better known. That is a big contribution.

As always: Loved it. Your report on the artist's work and life is very enriching. Thank you.💛

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi and my gratitude as usual for your appreciation.

Excellent little film, and sad Ed Cartier was not rewarded well for his superb pictures. Heading over to see your film on Virgil Finlay now, and looking forward to seeing more films about the pulp era!

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your appreciation, and there is a video on the channel devoted to pulp you might enjoy.

Thanks, Pete, another wonderful and informative video. Cartier produced amazingly high quality work considering the time it took to do them and the money he got paid. A wonderful artist.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi again and thanks. Amazing just how little reward tgose pulp artists recieved for their work. I wonder if the publishers were as tightfisted with the writers...

@simonward-horner7605

7 ай бұрын

@@petebeard I'm pretty much sure that they were.

Incredible draftsmanship, amazing compositions, and just stunning imagination. It was clear he loved to draw! I hope that even after he left drawing professionally, he continued to do it for fun. Thanks for another awesome video.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot for your comment. I hope he continued to draw too, but I still can't get a handle on why he didn't put his undoubted skills to more classic book work and kid's books when he packed in the pulps.

This video really inspires me to go back to my black crayons. Lovely and amazing tone work.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for the comment. I'm glad his work inspires you.

Another brilliant illustrator to be discovered.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for the comment.

I like the contrast of the pleasant music and the groteque horror illustration in the opening.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks. I did wonder whether to change it to something less jaunty but figured Cartier and his sense of humour would have approved.

Those two illustrations of Poul Anderson's stories about the Hokas really made my day. I loved the stories and the illustrations!!! Yo Ho, Hoka!

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I must admit I'd never heard of them, although I've read a couple of Anderson books in my time.

@captcardor

6 ай бұрын

Poul Anderson wrote the five collections of "Hoka" stories with Gordon R. Dickson. This video has inspired me to obtain two of them from my state library system. The first of the series is "Earthmen's Burden" and the next is "Hoka, Hoka, Hoka". Thanks for the inspiration! Some fun holiday reading is ahead...

Your videos are always an education and interesting! Thank you!🍂

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello to you, and many thanks for your appreciative comment.

I love watching these videos, but I am very envious of the skill and imagination of the illustrators. It also amazes me that people with this amount of skill weren’t paid a fortune.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot for your comment. It's hard not to envy such talent but for what it's worth it can be channeled as inspiration too.

Another thoughtful and insightful review. Good work Mr. Beard.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Thanks as ever for your appreciation.

Thank you for putting this together. His work is amazing and inspiring!

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

You are more than welcome. Thanks for the comment.

Thank you for creating this absolutely wonderful content.

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot for your appreciation.

BTW: I'd suggest you look at Wally Wood; he had a *_much_* more varied career than just drawing comics. He also worked in the pulps, Mad magazine, the early EC line, and self-published various illustrated fantasy books. In the world of comics, he worked on newspaper strips and books of every genre: sci-fi, horror, crime, mystery, western, and yes, superheroes, all done for every major publisher in the business, as a writer, penciler, and/or inker. He was the creative director and editor at the short-lived Tower line of comic books. *_Hey!_* Pete, never mind: I just did the video *_for_* you! All you gotta add are some pictures, And there's no shortage of those where Woody is concerned!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello again and thanks for both your comments about this video and related subject matter. As it happens Mr. Wood is already on the list, although quite way towards the back. If its any consolation Jack Davis is now very near the front of the queue. If I live long enough I'll get to most of them eventually.

My mind has expanded greatly due in part to your videos. Thank you!

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot for your recent comments. And as far as mind expansion goes I know that making these videos has opened me up to images I previosly didn't know existed. And I'm grateful for the knowledge.

These were wonderful! I know you did a video on Pulp Magazine illustrators, but it might be fun to do a Volume 2. More and more, I'm impressed with the quality of art in these "cheap, throwaway" magazines which, in truth, were wonderful training grounds for both artists and writers. As for Cartier, I seem to have focused on his drawings of hands; for some reason these popped out to me as a the focus of his emotion and expression. And, as always, his craftsmanship with composition, line work and drawing is superb. Thanks again, Pete, for this tour of another unknown (to me at least) pulp illustrator. I know I'm romancing the era, but what a time it must have been for illustrators what with the giant markets for art with the pulps, magazines like Life and and Sat. Evening Post, covers and interior illustrations alike. Stay safe and warm (it's miserable here in Provence now, cold rain and gray skies). Cheers, my friend!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi Doug and thanks again for your appreciation. I must say I've never really understood why there has been (and I assume continues to be) such a disparity in the fees paid, between the worlds of Cartier and Finlay, and the mainstream magazines. I know that mags such as the Post and New Yorker pay (or used to at least) very high fees. Mind you, some of the lowest paid work I ever did was for the Radio Times in the 80s. Tightfisted BBC...

@wemblyfez

7 ай бұрын

@@petebeard There's always been a disparity in levels of payments and remuneration for illustrators, even today. Historically, illustrators were never considered "real artists" as they worked by and large on commissions, e.g., getting a text or theme from a magazine or publisher and working up something to match the text. Us "hacks" were commercial, not real artists. Long story short, I taught illustration and graphic design at a university in the States for a couple years while I was involved with my writing and illustrations with children's books. The other instructors taught grand theories of art and painting and pooh poohed commercial art. I also painted my easel paintings along the way. I finally got my vanity show at a local gallery and showed my large canvases of semi abstract figures and flowers but, just for laughs, in a small room, I exhibited a dozen of my children's book illustrations which included anthropomorphic animals in clothes, hats and whatnot. Need I tell you which pictures those professors were more interested in and more questions about how I got into the business? The attitude still persists today that whipping up a small painting for a client is not considered a real job, at least in many cases in the States, at least from personal experience. Not all publishers and companies, I will hasten to say, but many. That's one reason why I'm in France. Curious; is the UK any different? Anyone else wanting to chime in and correct me?

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

@@wemblyfez Me again, and I couldnt resist the opportunity for an in-depth moan about the poor cousin status of commercial art. It was my own experience in the groves of academe that really made my blood boil, with the ludicrous notion that a pile of bricks or half a shark was of significantly more intrinsic value than an Ernest Shepard or Heath Robinson illustration. When summoned before a star chamber of academics to account for my contempt for academic practices such as the obligatory use of the harvard method of referencing, or for that matter making students write anything at all, I was told in no uncertain terms that we were not an 'employment agency'. Just as well, considering that less than 10% of our students went on to make a living making pictures of any kind.

Thanks Pete! His ability to fill a space is remarkable, as always you did a great job of bringing his work to life.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and many thanks for your continued support and interest.

Thank you. Just lovely.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Thanks as usual. Glad you liked it.

Was hooked the moment you said he worked on the Shadow , I’ll have to take a long look at Ed’s work (looks fabulous) 😉

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation.

Great job, Pete! Ed was a truly distinctive artist. Even his duotone works stand out. I was interested to see a number of illustrated stories by L. Ron Hubbard, the sci-fi writer who dreamed up his own crazy religion!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello, and yes crazy Ron was a regular in the pulps.

Loved his work as a kid.

@wynnschaible

7 ай бұрын

Ditto, and i love seeing the names of the sci-fi writers from back then too!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and being British I wasn't aware of his work (or Virgil Finlay) until fairly recently. But I'm delighted to have made their aquaintance.

Thank you again. Wonderful

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and you are very welcome.

Ohh my goodness, such a outstanding man. Pete you do a wonderful job 👍🏼 of profiling these Artists, I take my hat off to you.

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Always welcome.

Wow! What a hidden gem of an illustrator I discovered from your video. Thanks for bringing him to light. I cannot help but think Frank Frazetta and other greats in the comic industry were influenced by Cartier, as there similarities between his whimsical characters and Frazetta's, not to take anything away from Frazetta. I even see a bit of Cartier in Kelly Freas sci-fi and fantasy cover work--if that is not considered heresy to say that. Unless everyone back then produced illustrations in the same style.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot for your comment, and you are spot on with regard to the influence - although I suspect it flowed freely in both directions. I must admit I don;t really know who was aware of who in that community.

Love the vertical composition at 0:37. I'll definitely look more into Mr. Cartier.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot for your comment.

This both delights me and sorta breaks my heart! In my teen years, by the 80s, I discovered a lot of "The Shadow" pulp novels on a second hand bookshop and immediatly became a fan of the interior illustrations, that albeit poorly reproduced, were outsanding and unfortunately, unsigned (I only had translated reprints of the original magazines). I guess i have about all the Spanish translations of "La Sombra" as I could find then. Just now I can find who was the artists responsible for those incredi ble images that suited so well the misterious character. Seeing that he was still alive in a date so recent as 2008 also breaks my heart, havbing access to internet and knowing English well enough how to write at least a fan letter and saying him how much I appreciated his work and how much had influenced my young years!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and many thanks for your comment and personal take on the marvellous work of Edd Cartier. It's a pity the money he was paid was not a reflection of the success of the Shadow series.

Very good presentation. Thank you!!

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

Este canal es único, su trabajo es muy concienzudo. Le agradezco, no sabe cuánto lo disfruto. Un saludo desde Colombia.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hola desde la fría y húmeda Inglaterra. Muchas gracias por su apreciación de mi trabajo y el contenido del canal, señor.

Great video! Wow, Cartier was a 'giant' in both artistic imagination and execution. I have the greatest admiration for that age of illustrators from the later 19th century into somewhat past the mid 20th century (both North American and European). So, so many of them (a number of which you've had presentations on), whether in comics, book illustration, magazines, etc., seem to have set a standard of beautiful imaginative works that even the technology of our digital age has not rivaled...at least in my opinion. As always, wonderful job!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and many thanks for your comment and welcome positive response to the channel. It sounds like we are in complete accord about the illustrators who went before. I've been pleasantly surprised to uncover some contemporary examples who seem to want to follow in more traditional footsteps too.

Great video! Has there ever been a book printed with a collection of his illustrations?? Very informative and enjoyable video, thank you! ♥️

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and if there has been a book I don't know of it. A google search reveals nothing. Thanks for the appreciation.

Now that's some impressive line work and show of emotions through poses and expressions! Some of these reminded me of the works of Bernie Wringtson. Thank you for giving us yet another insight into a otherwise mostly forgotten illustrator!

@johnplatt3704

7 ай бұрын

I believe Wrightson counted him as an influence.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and I'm glad to have made the introduction.

Wonderful video!! Edd Cartier is my favorite of the pulp interior artists. His line work was superb. His sense of design extremely creative, and his use humor was wonderful. There was never another like him in that field. And although some would argue that Finlay was the better illustrator, I'd dispute it. Finlay's ink marks were regular but not creative. Cartier's line work, on the other hand, harkened back Golden Age illustrators such as W. Heath Robinson's early work. Another fantastic video! Thank you for creating it.

@petebeard

2 ай бұрын

Hello and welcome to the channel. Thanks for both your recent comments and insights and it's always nice to hear from someone who is also immersed in the world of illustration. As I'm sure you have worked out by now I'm nothing like as invested in the pulp genre as you are, but I hope when I do deal with it I do so with reasonable authority. Among other subjects I'm currently working on a tribute to Emmett Watson which I hope to upload in a few weeks. I wish you the best of luck with your own endeavours and thanks again for the comments.

I really enjoy your videos. They make me simultaneously want to get better at my art, and throw in the towel. LOL

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and I hope they serve better as inspiration than a deterrent. I do know what you mean, though.

@paulvincenti2

7 ай бұрын

They do. I am just awed by all the talent. @@petebeard

Fantastic!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Glad you think so.

Beautiful work! Edd was truly gifted with a unique style. When you mentioned what he was getting for art for the pulps in his heyday that was disheartening to say the least.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your appreciation of this video, and I agree it's shameful how little such talent was rewarded.

@boris1932

7 ай бұрын

You're welcome. I just want to say you make some of the best content on the history and background of illustrators and artists on here.@@petebeard

Another excellent article, I appreciate you sharing. All the best.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Many thanks!Hi and thanks a lot for your comment.

Awesome channel, thanks for these videos

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for your appreciation.

Another PERFECT video, Mr Beard, and a wonderful follow up to Finlay. Thank you. Sadly, publishers were and are hopeless at 2 things: 1 - recognizing the power and strength and eternal worth of the talented illustrators who were forced to work for them 2 - remunerating their illustrators to anything near their worth and that of their art Your series has brought illustrators and their enduring accomplishments to the limelight and front of stage they deserve. Well done.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi again and thanks for the appreciation, as usual. From my own long and frequently bitter experience in publishing it seems to me the only way to make money from books is to write your own material and get paid royalties. A friend of mine did just that and is worth spectacularly more than I am. Resentful? - you bet.

Wonderful as always, thank you!

@petebeard

5 ай бұрын

Hello and I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Marvelous! Thanks, Pete.

@petebeard

3 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

Great video thanks very much

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for your appreciation.

Amazing work.

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

How very true.

Great stuff, Pete.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot.

another excellent showcase mr. beard 🦒

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your appreciation.

Very cool. Great artist.

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for your favourable comment.

Very much reminds me of Virgil Finlay [who I see you've also done a video on]. Also, I've never seen Cartier's Hokas before. Love 'em!

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your comment. I'm glad you enjoyed his work.

Great stuff as always - thanks!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi and I'm pleased you enjoyed his work.

Ed Cartier was one of those artists whose drawings simply jumped out at me the first time I saw them illustrating fantasy collections of Unknown Worlds. Having seen the variety you presented here, my own personal opinion is that the grotesque and the comical was where he excelled. I also prefer the clean line ones without tonal effects, although his colour ones are sumptuous.

@petebeard

4 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your comment, and observations about Cartier's work.

Muchas Gracias!!!!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Es un placer para mí.

Great stuff. The pulps hid a lot of under-appreciated talent and Cartier certainly was talented. His livelier, brush cartoons remind me of Al Capp and some of Frank Frazetta's humorous sketches (also Capp influenced). With some illustrators we have to be thankful for what we got, rather than what might have been. The constraints of earning a living proved a barrier for too many, I think.

@petebeard

5 ай бұрын

Sorry for taking so long to reply to your comment. Somehow I missed it until now so I hope you will accept my very overdue thanks.

Thanks, Pete. It's a pity he never got the rewards his talent deserved. I can understand why he gave up illustrating to become an art director. A secure job with a decent income. It's just a pity he could not get that for his art.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and I must confess I ended up doing similar to Cartier, except my life raft was in education.

MAGNIFICO Material. Estupendo canal. Saludos desde MEXICO

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hola, y muchas gracias por tu apreciación de este video y el canal.

😎 When I first saw Mr Cartier's work a few years ago , Pete, "Eye " (I) was hooked as a fan! I completely agree about the disappointment of his not getting into the Childrens Book field ; his style is reminiscent of Robert McCloskey author / artist of the very popular Homer Price series of books as well as the Henry Reed ones. His touches of humor would have been perfect for that genre. I had to give this episode repeat viewings.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and many thanks for your appreciation of the video. I wish more viewers would watch more than once.

Soooooo Talented!

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

No argument from me on that score.

Fantastic video as always, I really find interesting all this early pulp and science fiction artists but it's a shame that Cartier seems to have lose his creative drive by the end of his time as illustrator. As you said, probably a result of the low pay, the end of pulp publications and maybe Cartier himself thinking that his style and humor wouldn't be suitable for other types of genres.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for the comment. I do find it rather sad that he threw in the towel.

Another amazing artist... would have been cool to see what Cartier could have done with characters like The Hulk, and the Joker.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot for your comment.

Συγχαρητήρια για την ματιά σου στο Pulp fiction που ήταν μια μεγάλης κινητήρια αισθητική δύναμη, ιδιαίτερα στις Ηνωμένες πολιτείες,για τόσες δεκαετίες. Χτυπήσεις φλέβα χρυσού αν συνεχίσεις να εξερευνάς τον φανταστικό κόσμο του Pulp fiction. Καλημέρα και ένα μεγάλο ευχαριστώ για την ανάρτηση σας.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Ευχαριστώ και πάλι για το θετικό σας σχόλιο σχετικά με αυτό το βίντεο και το κανάλι.

thank you for casting a light into the dark past

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

And thank you for such a very nice comment about my work on the channel.

Reminds me of his contemporary, Basil Wolverton. They used different techniques but seemed to have a similar vibe and worked for similar publishers.

@wemblyfez

7 ай бұрын

Funny, I flashed on Wolverton as well. I loved his Space Hawk especially. And I'm surprised Cartier didn't do more in comics like Wolverton; his art style and (I'm guessing) his speed at producing a page would seem to be a perfect fit.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for your comment. Interesting connection too.

Wonderful expose'! LOVE his work! Reminescent of Mad Magazine illustrations? Tnx!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi Mike and you have a point about his work. Not many pulp artists exhibited a sense of humour.

Thanks Pete

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

And thanks for watching and commenting.

Very Nice

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks.

wow this guy was incredible!

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

I'm pleased you are impressed with his work.

@alltheserobotsshallfall

7 ай бұрын

@@petebeard as I am with yours, one my favorite channels. By far the favorite when it comes to arts. Warm cheers from Brazil!

yeahhh

The guy was really good. I had no idea.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

He certainly was - and so undervalued.

His best pulp work looked a lot like _good_ comic book work from the '60s-'70s. His (mostly) unreferenced figures are very typical of comics artists from that time; anatomically competent but without that patina of realism that photo sourcing would bring. As for low-paying work; if he thought pulps were bad, comics must have been shocking. In fact, many comics artists today don't get that $170 you mentioned for a single illustration, when usually executing 5 or more panels at a time. I would consider many comic artists of roughly that period to be much better than he: Al Williamson, Wally Wood, Will Eisner, and oh yeah, some guy named Kirby. Cartier *_was_* very accomplished with the litho crayon.

Like all Pete Beards videos, immaculate. I am not an artist or graphic designer but l greatly enjoy visual images in two dimensions of all types. If l ruled the world the illustrators Pete champions would be way more known and appreciated. In respect of Cartier you can see his composition becoming freer over time. I especially like his earlier noir work. Masterly use of shading for dramatic effect

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for your glowing appreciation of the channel, and this video in particular.

@jontalbot1

7 ай бұрын

@@petebeard Hi Pete you don't have to thank me. Yours is one of the best channels l have ever viewed on KZread. If l was a BBC commissioning editor yours is exactly the sort of content l would be looking for- low cost, authoritative, of interest to specialists and the general viewer like me and genuinely informative. You have opened my eyes to something l was not really aware of and made me wonder why we laud painters over all other producers of images.

great channel, but I can't believe you haven't done Šašek, one of the most beloved of 20th century illustrators

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks a lot. But you left out the word 'yet'. Mr Sasek is just one on a frighteningly long list (given my age) who is waiting patiently in line to appear on the channel. He will get his turn unless I fall off my perch in the meantime, but I couldn't say when with any accuracy.

Over 800 illustrations for The Shadow !

@petebeard

5 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your comment and appreciation.

Wow

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi and that's the kind of reaction his work provokes I think.

Some of his more grotesquely whimsical stuff reminds me of imagery that would become popular later in the 1960s such as Rat Fink. I wonder if those artists weren't partly inspired by his earlier work, consciously or not?

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello and thanks for your comment. And regarding his influence I suspect you are probably correct, but of course it might be coincidental.

I read where the writer of the story for Unknown "Lest Darkness Fall" 4:06 (L. Sprague De Camp) bought the original cover illustration and it hung in his living room for years. (What he paid for it and whether he paid Cartier, I don't know!)

@petebeard

6 ай бұрын

Depresssingly I doubt he would have seen any money for it. The illustrators had to assign all rights to the publishers so it wasn't his to sell. Years ago I did a caricature of a TV celebrity, and was flattered when they phoned me to say how much they liked it - until they revealed they expected me to give it to them for nothing. The life of an illustrator can be a rocky path.

There are many more modern tongue-in-cheek sci-fi series -- try "Ringworld" -- that Cartier's humorous illustrations would have fir to a T! But as for the whole pulp corpus, it's like the motto of the old Mystery Writers of America: "Crime does not pay -- enough!"

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hello again and thanks for the comment. I always thought I was overworked and underpaid until i found out how little these fellows were paid. Scandalous.

Perhaps Cartier was struck by the curse of L Ron Hubbard.

During this time, men were supporting families by making $1 per day. $8 per drawing doesn't sound bad considering his speed and talent. I would think he'd be able to get advertising work being so close to New York City (probably working there with the pulps.) What a loss losing at least twenty-five years of his enormous artistic talent. Could he have started using a pen name during this time? Illustration can be done at home after work and talent and creativity is hard to keep bottled up. I sure hope so. Thank you once more, Pete, for another name to search.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

hello and that's what I meant about not doing better paid work. The occasional press ad or poster would have greatly impacted on his income.

I like these Thanks *Pete* getting paid anything to sit & draw I think is not so bad a deal🤔although I do see his point

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

Hi again and thanks for the comment. I struggle to understand why he didn't try to get into other areas of illustration that are better paid. Books in particular.

@mijiyoon5575

7 ай бұрын

@@petebeard maybe his Parkinson's had something to do w/ his decision as this condition affects the hands. As time passed he would not have been able to hold a pen or brushes, whatever he used. It is a progressive condition. Maybe he wanted to secure a better long term job while it was available. I'm just guessing b/c he seemed to really enjoy his work

I see a lot of Star Wars alien lookalikes. Half of Yoda in one picture and the other half in another. Plus Ents, the walking trees from the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

@petebeard

3 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for your comment, and observations about his influence on others.

Please do Lee Brown Coye

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

He's in the pipeline, but there isn't enough material for a solo video so he will appear in the unsung heroes series.

@8:17 Looks like Dave Stevens work on Rocketeer. I wonder if Dave was influenced by him? It wouldn't suprise me.

@petebeard

7 ай бұрын

I haven't read so but who knows, when it comes to people's influences - unless they actually say so? The timing would be right though.

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