"The most evil people take the highest good and invert it". 🤯

@frededwards4904

Ай бұрын

Yes, have you noticed how the most convincing lies are the ones that technically tell only the truth but leave out the other facts that encompass the whole truth?

@elderberry63

Ай бұрын

​@@frededwards4904yes! Or they lay down a lie along with the truth, that calls that very truth into question. IE: Satan says to the woman, God did say, you must not eat of the fruit of the tree, but you will not die.

@sarahalderman3126

Ай бұрын

Yep. This is most evident in all religious groups, charities, or any "do good" groups. Basically found in any human group that defines itself as good.

@Innuendos06

Ай бұрын

I agree, it's all about the power of deception for these leaders....and they do it well! They've made me think or feel the way they wanted, then they go in for the kill or try and get me to serve or even worship them!

@WeknowhoUR

Ай бұрын

@@frededwards4904YES! Like the lies that the once great USA (the principles underlying its greatness) was no different/better than any other country. And that one culture is not better than another!!

I appreciate Jordan's saying: "You have to recognize that real evil is something that could attract you". Scott Peck's "People of the Lie" was written by a therapist who realized, many years ago, that the therapeutic world had lost its recognition of evil. It's well worth a read.

@tyree9055

2 ай бұрын

That's what evil does. It clouds your view and perspective so that it can continue to grow and spread in the dark. The problem is, once hyperintelligent individuals choose the dark side, they'll stop at nothing to justify their actions. It takes someone equally knowledgeable and skilled enough technically, as well as knowledgeable enough in philosophy, to point out their transgressions and errors in judgment and their arguments justifying those beliefs / actions.

@rosannerossi6376

2 ай бұрын

@@tyree9055I’m not convinced that “Covid Vaccinators” are very smart. They were just medical professionals that thought they were “Compassionate!” I think they should be ashamed of the financial benefit they made. But they live and pretend it never happened. This is a silent evil that will continue in any form. It’s just pure evil.

@LouisaWatt

2 ай бұрын

Common, everyday, socially acceptable evil.

@peterjs007

2 ай бұрын

4:15 'you don't understand evil until you understand how you could be enticed by it'

@neovxr

2 ай бұрын

@@tyree9055Education about some principles helps a lot. Something like: Jesus went to the camp of Leprosis, preaching and healing. To Him the people there were not "unclean". But today, the non-vaccinated get treated like back then, like those who had a disease, and had to live outside the borders of the city. Success of Christianity in Europe meant also to build hospitals *in* the center of cities. Today, Puritanism got over-inflated. It has an ancient smell. Similar about the wars. Arch enemy is being demonized beyond all reason, negotiation impossible, all guilt has to be punished and compensated fully (violating the Westphalian Treaty that recognized that consent about that will be always impossible), it may end like Sparta versus Athens.

The line between good and evil runs through heart of every man and woman

@davidmiles-hanschell

2 ай бұрын

For sure.

@azaleaslightsage1271

2 ай бұрын

We all have Both within us & to OWN that is living balanced Authentic you its accepting of your whole self, not blocking out parts of yourself because they don't fit your own story of yourself that you tell yourself about yourself The story of how good you are, how much better you are how your more above the evil ones. But if don't Own your darkside your darkside owns you!

@PrivateSi

2 ай бұрын

What does that mean when (the) most evil is done in the name of some greater go(o)d? See Lefties & Righties, Commies, Libs & Cons, Abrahamics, Hindus, Buddhists for countless examples.

@Imitatechrist

2 ай бұрын

Alexander Solzhenitsyn knew some stuff indeed.

@tuckerbugeater

2 ай бұрын

He didn't know how to stop it. @@Imitatechrist

This is one reason I loved Lord of the Rings so much, both the books and the movies. They depict how the potential to do evil is in all of us, and at some points in the story, the battle between good and evil is an internal one, for example the scene of Galadriel's mirror, where she's incredibly tempted by the Ring, but ultimately declines it.

@clarkwatson3217

2 ай бұрын

You are right

@piehound

2 ай бұрын

You are right . . . AGAIN. That's two who said you are right. Like it ???

@atlasfeynman1039

2 ай бұрын

WRONG. The lines of good and evil are clear: Orc = irredeemably evil, Hobbit = incorruptibly good. Smeagol started pure and saved the world.

@piehound

2 ай бұрын

@@atlasfeynman1039 are you saying WRONG simply to be different and inflammatory ???? Seems to me so. I see no contradiction between (1) an internal battle between good and evil on the one hand . . . and (2) a clear delineation of good and evil as represented by Orc and Hobbit as you point out. Both make the point elegantly.

@johnnychopping3655

2 ай бұрын

You know LOTR was something special on an almost religious level when the British government put it on its list of 'books that might indicate terrorism'.... I swear to God thats not a lie look it up

Peterson’s explanation of things and communication skills are something of a wonder. Here is a man that thinks.

@bipslone8880

2 ай бұрын

He's the right wing version of Deepak Chopra. uses a lot of words that mean very little.... but impresses the simple minded.

@jarrettjb

2 ай бұрын

@@bipslone8880 and what have you actually done in life that would drive up the value of your opinion?

@bipslone8880

2 ай бұрын

@@jarrettjbIt's not necessarily what I've done but what I haven't done. I haven't spread hateful and bigoted bs.

@jarrettjb

2 ай бұрын

@@bipslone8880 at what point or points in your life did you become overwhelmingly cynical?

@bipslone8880

2 ай бұрын

@@jarrettjbI believe that Jordan Peterson is a hateful bigot and that makes me cynical?

" the devil prowls like a roaring lion, seeking to devour souls."

@incaseinever

2 ай бұрын

The idea of the devil is something alien to me

@coastalwoman19

Ай бұрын

I read somewhere "the devil can't enter your house unless invited in" - maybe it was a biblical interpretation

Absolute truth. Teach children to recognize and understand evil because by the time they’re able to read the books you suggest it might be too late.

@ravenillusion2596

2 ай бұрын

We all have to realize. It goes beyond those books. Ask why Vatican and other religious entities hidden scriptures and knowledge.

@jaywoo5545

2 ай бұрын

Can you give an example of an absolute Truth teaching you are thinking of?

@kathleenphillips6445

2 ай бұрын

@@jaywoo5545 absolute truth is that good and evil exist.

@PrivateSi

2 ай бұрын

GARBAGE when their is no Absolute Evil because so many cultures define good and evil differently, and as we all know, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. One man's evil is another's good/fun deed. Most of the very few observable absolute truths were/are still denied by religions steeped in BS and debased, morally inconsistent, unnatural ethics that get pettier and totalitarian the more powerful they get.

@Julie-xo9et

2 ай бұрын

Have you heard of Howard Pittman he has a great Testimony on this.

The first clip I ever saw of Jordan was from a lecture where he talked about meeting a cold blooded killer in a prison. The conclusion to the story was that he discovered within himself how he could become a killer. It was so wise I have been hooked on his word ever since.

@Innuendos06

2 ай бұрын

Well said! Wow is that available to view? Humbling reality stated by Jordan...

@NMemone

2 ай бұрын

​@Innuendos06 I don't know where to find that clip, but have you seen the interview Jordan did with Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel last year? Jordan's insights about the nature of evil in people were extremely interesting, and he did mention his visit with the killer in prison. It was a fascinating discussion.

@robertmcginness4610

2 ай бұрын

Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen visited a convict in prison, & said to the convict is: the only difference between you and I is: I didn't get caught.

@afit5341

Ай бұрын

Or how fast a seemingly normal person can be turned into a nazi soldier. Think of fast food workers and store clerks when one entered without a mask during Covid. Pure dictatorship mentality for no personal gain other than the authoritarian right given by government idiots

It's coming back into the light (again), that the darkest, scariest people in the world are those with a savior's complex without a relationship with the Savior.

@Innuendos06

2 ай бұрын

It's even scarier how intelligent and manipulative they can be! A couple of them really had me going there for a bit, until the nature of the beast finally revealed himself through his dastardly actions.....

@mtlicq

2 ай бұрын

Winston Churchill

@CMA418

2 ай бұрын

Trump😭💀

@hrabmv

2 ай бұрын

​@@CMA418😂Biden?

@marcanton5357

2 ай бұрын

Jews.

"The Screwtape Letters" by C.S. Lewis tells a story of how evil works in a normal, average daily life. Eye opening....

@williamerickson520

2 ай бұрын

That with "Screwtape Proposes a Toast".

@AndyLabaj

2 ай бұрын

It's a difficult read in Lewis' English language of the day so, it is good to have a study guide while reading but, oh so true of how satan and his demons will do anything to decieve, lie, twist truth to capture the heart of man.

@michellemonzingo5357

2 ай бұрын

Lewis was brilliant when he wrote that piece. He describes Satan's tactics perfectly; along with man's blind falling into his traps.

@williamerickson520

2 ай бұрын

@@AndyLabaj I listened to it on audiobook and I had no trouble understanding it. But I'm used to reading 18th, 19th and early 20th century literature.

@michellemonzingo5357

2 ай бұрын

@AndyLabaj I had no trouble with his language at all. Indeed, it was a delight to read something with no profanity, sex, or other modern-day trash.

“People of the Lie” by M. Scott Peck… Best book I have read on the nature of evil, both human and demonic. Chilling. Provoking. Relatable.

@reginawilkes5100

2 ай бұрын

Yes. The subtitle, in fact, is "The Problem of Human Evil." I wonder why Peterson did not mention it; surely he is aware of it.

@tuckerbugeater

2 ай бұрын

Because he's serves the evil for good. @@reginawilkes5100

This is what I like the most about Jordon Peterson, he's adle to articulate the views and opinions that I am unable to adequately express.

@bipslone8880

2 ай бұрын

He's the right wing version of Deepak Chopra. uses a lot of words that mean very little.... but impresses the simple minded.

@AgentSander

2 ай бұрын

@bipslone8880 I find it difficult to agree. Yes, Peterson uses a lot of words, but not without meaning. And his thoughts aren't simple. They're complicated thoughts expressed through delicately selected words, which is why he's an effective communicator. I also disagree that his messaging is for the simple-minded. I thought that to be true at first, but the simple-minded people in my life struggle to listen to him, claiming he's "hard to follow."

@mtlicq

2 ай бұрын

able, not addled 🤭

@zoran69ser

2 ай бұрын

simple question,on " destroying posters " didnt answer . if i am a intervjuer i will insist.

@MeanOldLady

2 ай бұрын

That comes with reading a LOT of books about worthwhile subjects that affect societies throughout history. Ignoring sports, fantasy & other useless knowledge makes room for useful, good knowledge instead. How JP speaks today is how most teachers would speak at the high school level back during the 80s. Go back & watch lectures or even news programs of the day & see how articulate & intelligent people were on a basic discourse level compared to the idiocracy today that's full of "like" & "umm" that started rearing their ugly heads during the late 80s onward as well as the glorification of the stupid in order to dumb down & distract the plebs instead of educating them - making them easier to rule over by corrupt governments. George Carlin's rant on the American Dream is a decent summary of what's been going on since the 1960s - starting with dumbing down the boomers.

Evil seems to be the ego protecting the self from emotional trauma, using whatever it takes to hide reality. But ego flees when death is impending, leaving the years of unresolved events to attack the self, one after the other - the entrance to Hell. Peace be with you.

@glenliesegang233

2 ай бұрын

Agreed! I believe part of our psyche is always recording the responses others have to our actions, with the key emotion of guilt when we cause harm. I believe the narcissist needs the chaos and self seeking attention to continually keep themselves from becoming aware of how they have damaged their lives and relationships. Were they to ever stop projecting and blaming, they would be flooded with emotional pain. Pity them, pray for them, but stay away from their need to enmeshed you.

@andrewwitchell2708

2 ай бұрын

Sin of pride. Too much is not good. It's always better to even it out with grace and humility

@jimmyboeingbeep

2 ай бұрын

Profound truth to be sure.

@jaywoo5545

2 ай бұрын

This is great thank you. At this point in my life I feel like I am constantly on my guard and fending off psychological attacks from personal relationships to the work place. I feel like I don't have the luxury to fully process the trauma at the moment. It's taking a lot to stay strong and work towards a better future. I think I'm better at "seeing" Evil now but finding the line between projecting or opening one's Self to others is not clear. Will it ever be...

@jaysmith3361

2 ай бұрын

@@jaywoo5545" Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres." - Paul

Accepting personal responsibility for one's narratives and behaviours can present some of the deepest learning of the self and others.

Evil is the deliberate intention to harm, deceptively hidden behind a pretense of altruistic compassion. The root of evil is deception.

@user-dd3gl4rl9q

2 ай бұрын

$ - And the Love of Money is the Root of All kinds of Evil ; $

@wickedfrigginryan4645

2 ай бұрын

I would imagine that the root of evil is hate, but what do I know? Probably about as much as you do, so I'll give my dumbass two cents as well

Willingness to sacrifice others seems to be a decent metric for determining evil.

@rubandanmusic

2 ай бұрын

Bless vs consume

@patrickpantea2037

2 ай бұрын

That is a very good point!

@Projectj4

2 ай бұрын

shut up

@schalkvandermerwe3838

2 ай бұрын

Not even bodily, but also misapropriating taxes you've paid that they then use to better suit their apparent interests and not yours.

@ShiniGuraiJoker

2 ай бұрын

I guess I would have to ask what sacrifices are you talking about? How are they potentially evill

Very true. Time and again, I see individuals, especially on the comments section, weaponize compassion. It's most obvious when they're much more busy telling you what a horrible person you are than to show you a way out.

@jimmoefoe1471

2 ай бұрын

This comment just blew my mind. I really loved the last line. Thank you for this.

@JiraiyaSama86

2 ай бұрын

@@jimmoefoe1471 you're welcome

@Polimuni

2 ай бұрын

Whatever, Jordan's suit jackets suck.

@treheron

2 ай бұрын

That’s fair.

@mindhunter8772

2 ай бұрын

​@Polimuni 👈 Exhibit A

"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either - but right through every human heart…even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains…an uprooted small corner of evil." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago

@CaptainBob42

2 ай бұрын

Everyone should read the Gulag Archipelago to see how evil can overtake a society. The stories are breathtakingly horrible.

Evil has to present itself as good and fun and exciting, or else there wouldn’t be any buyers. A trap without bait catches very little, if anything at all.

I doubt that anyone fully understands evil. I’m sure Jordan has a deeper conceptualisation than most of us, but never underestimate the collective wisdom of your community. I recall a story once, the basic premise of which was that the devil was watching someone and that someone picked up a piece of the truth and the devil delighted in this. At the time I thought that sounded very odd, but listening to this reminded me of the story. It seems to me that just when we think we understand the nature of evil or even when we think we have taken another step on the journey of that discovery….we find ourselves being led down another dead end in a seemingly endless maze. The old saying, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil comes to mind and I think the wisdom of this is that we can’t understand evil by investigating it, it’s not like other things, the more we look at it, the more it draws us in and captures our minds in its prison. I think it’s better to focus on good, on God and higher things, then from that lofty place you can look down from the mountain top and see the dark swamp where evil dwells…..far, far away from heaven. Evil lurks in the darkness and if you go into that darkness you will in all probability get lost and never find your way out again. The more you become enmeshed with it the less clearly you will be able to see. Better to back up from something at times and then you can gain a clearer perspective….this would be one of those times. So if you want to actually understand evil, set your mind on higher things, on Godly things, things that elevate the mind, the heart and the soul and take us to a healthy place, one where actual compassion, loving kindness and real humility dwells. But then maybe I am actually in the dark place and someone is holding a match in front of my eyes to trick me into thinking that I am dwelling in the light…….you will have to decide this for yourself. To put the message simply, I think evil is just a lack of light, a lack of good. It’s something that has no reality in and of itself. So it would make sense then that if we try to study it, we are trying investigate something that has no reality to it……not surprisingly many who have gone down this path have gone insane…..after all insanity is a disconnection from reality.

@hopefull61256

2 ай бұрын

Excellent comment, I think the way trun away from evil not to haze into to it, but it is to keep your eyes fixed on the light and constantly work towards it. Choose to be better and pick oneself up and try again.

@miklosfabian4722

Ай бұрын

Jesus had shown us how to talk to the Evil One - while he was in the desert. Jesus answered Satan only with quotes from the Bible

This discussion is so important. I had to learn it in a very traumatic way when, at 58, I singlehandedly discovered my brother and sister were abusing my out-of-state elderly demented mother physically, financially, mentally, and emotionally. Facing their capacities for such evil and personal / familial betrayal almost ended me; I had to climb out of a black, seemingly bottomless abyss. Very very thankfully, with excellent trauma-focused mental health support that included learning about and understanding Cluster B personalities, I now stand outside that abyss. It took seven long years to get here. I now fully comprehend evil.

What I love about Jordan Peterson is his anchoring in classic texts, stories, research. By contrast, today’s woke revolutionaries reject previous learning and imagine one can be “rational” (like they imagine themselves to be) and cure mankind’s ills. The latter requires no work, no intellectual depth, no research, no reading. It does require rather sophisticated rhetorical distortion, however, which some excel at. They distort and argue like Sophists but know nothing. Peterson says look to the past, find the truth therein. They say, reject the past, look to a utopian future in which they are gods.

@kimlersue

2 ай бұрын

The rejection of previous scholarship and the great thinkers of the generations is necessary to sell an ideology. When most closed ideologies are allowed the light of scrutiny by the giant thinkers in history..the lie is always exposed.

@miklosfabian4722

Ай бұрын

When most closed ideologies( ideology of Hegel, Goethe, Kant, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer )are allowed the light of scrutiny by the giant thinkers in histor y (St. Thomas Aquinas, St. Augustine )..the lie is always exposed. And why the liberated German nation from the Church of Christ became the murderer of 100 million people.

“You don’t understand evil until you understand how you could be enticed by it.” This is really what the doctrine of original sin is getting at. Not that we are evil as we can be, but that the worst evil we can imagine is just a series of possible decisions we are capable of making.

@Projectj4

2 ай бұрын

god is here

Jesus was unfairly crucified due to tyrant's lies... and it's still happening to this day. So concerning and so sad.

@KG-gv7qy

2 ай бұрын

Jesus fulfilled God's plan for humanity. He loved us so much that He gave his only begotten son that we could believe in Jesus and have every lasting life.

@Srpski_inat1984

2 ай бұрын

​@@KG-gv7qynot his only begotten son. We are all equal to Jesus that's the biggest misconception and contextually generated falsities and heresy in the Bible..

@Srpski_inat1984

2 ай бұрын

​@@KG-gv7qywe are as much gods children as Jesus was because jesus was a MAN who WALKED and people just can't get over that he had a dark side in him too. Like the holy spirit itself

@Srpski_inat1984

2 ай бұрын

​@@KG-gv7qythat's why Jews along with all the neocon FILTHS repulse when you mention Jesus the father son and holy spirit amin

@TheDallasDwayne

2 ай бұрын

@@Srpski_inat1984- Let us be clear that this is not the historically accepted Christian position.

My god, this was beautifully talked out.

Thank you Dr Peterson & Ms Shrier❣️🙏🏼

I have experienced many modern-day pharisees using the highest form of Christ's love and compassion to manipulate me on the psychopathic level, which Jordan talks about. This kind of hurt and damage is serious and needs to be talked about more so people can be free and heal from it.

@danielvalderrabano9566

2 ай бұрын

I reccomend you to chek out "The New Revelation" by Jakob Lorber. Peace, my brother.

@CMA418

2 ай бұрын

If Christ came today instead of then many Christians would stand in line to crucify him for going against the religious authority of today.

@nyagrateful

2 ай бұрын

God bless you for sharing this. I feel the same way. Soo many modern day Pharisees. I’ve been hurt so I get it for sure.🙏🏽

@bradthompson5383

2 ай бұрын

You are worshipping the most damaging thing in the world, a demonic ideology called Christianity, which is a lie.

@classygary

2 ай бұрын

What does Christ have to do with anything that truly good .

There's a series of books by Paul Levy on *'Wetiko'* which is an indigenous term for a non-local consciousness, "spirit of evil" that can possess a person to do evil things to oneself & others. It caused me to realize that spiritual house-cleaning is an essential component of sealing the doors to evil in oneself. That involves facing whatever illusions one has about oneself; to become aware of inner weaknesses within the psyche that can be used to seduce one into lines of thinking/actions/attitudes toward others that over-compensate for perceived insufficiencies. If the falsehoods within us are put under our scrutiny, they dissolve for lack of true justification for them. Give no foothold for evil to enter & squat in your house.

I wonder if I'm evil, trying as hard as I do to fight for professionalism in the workplace, especially when I work in a school. It's crazy to me to see time-serving teachers who don't care to do a good job. Children aren't a reflection, but a lens that can be warped, broken, and harmed if teachers aren't attempting to be their best. I think about my pride, wrapped up in their achievements, in their understanding, in their enjoyment of learning. And I can only pray to do more good than harm as I fight for what I know in my soul to be right.

@janethollinhead1874

2 ай бұрын

Hey spacecentergames you the proverable salmon swimming. Against the scream keep it up God never told to win the war but to pray show up for the fight the fight his he will absolutely will conquer acknowledge him he’ll direct our path good night my friend

@CaptainBob42

2 ай бұрын

Thank God you are there to help the kids. Most of us had that one teacher who stood above all others. You will be that teacher for someone.

Paul's warning to the leaders of the church at Ephesus as he parted from them. ". . . I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. . ." Acts 20:29-30

"It comes most effectively in the guise of benevolence". So true. We must be so careful...

I have had discussions with people who say evil doesn't exist, and whenever you talk about why people do mean things to others it is either that they have missunderstood or are mentally ill, never conciously doing things they know are wrong. Those people who say this I also have noticed tend to be mean, but passive aggressively mean. They don't want you to crack the code.

@hrabmv

2 ай бұрын

❤ passive agression is the highest form of evil!

@spashia7028

2 ай бұрын

@@hrabmvYeah. Sophisticated evil knows that people look down on it so it tries to be stealthy, through lies, deception and manipulation. Which makes it even more evil.

The greatest trick the devil ever played was to convince the world that it doesn't it exist, the 2nd greatest trick is convincing you that they're the good guys...

@11-AisexualsforGod-11

2 ай бұрын

He convinced yourself that you where smart.. Petersons pet genius

@areuaware6842

2 ай бұрын

That is not his greatest deception.

@Projectj4

2 ай бұрын

dont spread the devil spread the gospel

God bless Jordan Peterson....

@bipslone8880

2 ай бұрын

Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions

@mtlicq

2 ай бұрын

@@bipslone8880 yeah they do

Thank you thank you thank you sooo much for this little abstract. What you have just said about how evil has to first appeal to you to attract you..... how evil [people] have to first appeal to you to attract you.... pearls of wisdom!!! The challenge for us is to be able to spot/realise them before it's too late. We should not be distracted (in whichever form distraction manifests itself for you individually) so much that we do not see evil [people] coming... Thank you Dr. Peterson.

We see sins committed on every street corner and in our own homes, yet it no longer bothers us. We've learnt to tolerate it, or worse still, accept it

@MelissaR784

2 ай бұрын

That is so true. We've become numb to it.

@Innuendos06

2 ай бұрын

There's still a conscious in the world, but not of it... but it does seem more rare these days.

@mtlicq

2 ай бұрын

@@Innuendos06 conscience

@crankybanshee3809

2 ай бұрын

@@mtlicq consciousness maybe?

@mtlicq

2 ай бұрын

@@crankybanshee3809 LOL We don't know based on that prose.

Once again, JP examines the implications of Kant's Second Categorical Imperative: "So act that you use humanity, in your own person as well as in the person of any other, always at the same time as an end, never merely as a means." E.G, those masquerading as benevolent for the purpose of using you. OR, as Denzel Washington says: "When you're at your peak, that's when the Devil comes for you". Betrayal is the most common form of the Devil coming for you; betrayal of yourself is the worst kind.

@glenalguire6960

17 күн бұрын

Holy shit , as some one of limited intelligence who 0:10 has no idea what your talking about , but it’s just a bunch of bullshit , talk English , instead of trying to impress the rest us With your mightier then thou attitude

If you want to read a book about the spiritual warfare and psychological battles of the human soul without the danger of morbid curiosity and perversion of heart that can occur with sensitive souls reading the ones Peterson listed, read the ladder of divine ascent by St John Climacus. He is a desert father that lived a monastic life to discipline the self. This book is hard for modern men to stomach due to its austerity, but it is a fundamental truth of human nature and interior evil well worth the read for anyone with an ounce of spiritual maturity.

@JR-xs1yh

2 ай бұрын

I am on the path of prayer & diving deep into my faith right now. I thank you for bringing up the point that it may pervert the heart to read those books for those that are not yet strong. Do you happen to have a list of books or media I can look into? Thanks

@BindingTheYoke

2 ай бұрын

well I am not sure what your faith is@@JR-xs1yhbut either way regardless, I can only recommend ones from a Catholic/Christian viewpoint. I would perhaps start with Guardini's book learning the virtues, Maturin's book on Christian self mastery, Kreeft's book on practical theology, and one of the saints like St Ignatious spiritual exercises or Sanit Teresa of Avila's interior castle.. Anything by CS Lewis or GK Chesterton is always good. But when it comes to books and authors find one you enjoy to start with that will keep you reading, if you're slogging through and find it drudgery it may be a sign you're not spiritually, mentally or emotionally ready to read it and find something more uplifting. There are plenty of good authors out there. Delight yourself in good literature while learning the faith. Hope that helps.

Thank you for the book proposals, Dr. Peterson!

New book list for reading. Thanks.❤

Thanks for bright and useful insights Dr. Jordan Peterson. It's serious to know, study and aware of evil and develop appropriate real life base concept of evil.

The nuts & bolts of this conversation need to be spread LOUDLY far & wide, for all the people who haven't connected the dots yet.

I think clips of this length are very useful for viewers, because sometimes it's difficult to get into a 1,5h hour video, but when I see a discussion like that it makes me want to seek out the full format interview.

You need the bad guy. If you didn’t have them, you wouldn’t know you were good guy. “Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm; but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.” ― T.S. Eliot

This video is more about religion than anything I've heard on my church

@Innuendos06

2 ай бұрын

Do you mean in my church? I've seen this kind of deception inside the leadership many religious organizations, so be careful!

@danielvalderrabano9566

2 ай бұрын

I reccomend you to check out "The New Revelation" by Jakob Lorber. Peace, brother.

Well said Mr. Peterson❤

The SCREW TAPE LETTERS by CS Lewis gave me a window to evil as well

Thank you Jordan Peterson, you've no idea how much you've helped me understand not only myself but those who have forced and manipulated their way into my life to do harm and to manipulate me to get what they want. You've explained them so well here and in other posts, I'm stronger because of your brilliant mind and I will not be broken by the negative forces in my life.

Brilliant again, my brother!

The tibetan buddhist monk. Chogyam Trungpa wrote a book called, 'Cutting through spiritual materialism'. It explains in great detail how ego grabs hold of spiritual tenets and twists them to appease the ego or self-cherishing mind. This problem has always existed. It will continue to proliferate until the ego or self-cherishing is destroyed within the consciousness. Also, we can't just blame denonic beings for the faults of people.

I love this! "I'm compassionate!" No you're not, you're a psychopath! Love it!

Dr. Peterson is always spitting out knowledge and wisdom.

Another great analysis of evil is in the novel Perelandra by CS Lewis.

The hypocrisy begins with our own misused human will divorced from the Divine Will. Your presentation is excellent, Thank you!!!

I needed to hear this today !!!!!

“Whatever is done out of love is beyond good and evil.” -Friedrich Nietzsche

JP back at it with the unique suits

A perfect description of Trudeau. "Wearing is caring" and other evil slogans. I read Dantes Inferno in highschool. Since then, evil is relatively easy to spot. Since dedicating life to Vipassana, and more specifically the Sila, everything is far more obvious. The downside is that, once you're cleansed of most of your own darkness, you're pretty much surrounded by it.

Utterly profound!

betrayal. yes. 🔥

i would have added the screwtape letters to that list, as well as the works of the marquis de sade.

I love, love, love, Dr. Jordan Peterson. His truths …I’m sorry they are so clearly seen!

Amazing analysis.... thank you.

What most get wrong is the opposite of evil is not good, it's love. That is why Jesus said that God is only truly good, love is only truly good. Relationship is the key to all, respecting and cherishing the inherent creation in all that God called very good even if they can't see it in themselves. The second creation story in Genesis is what creation would look like without the heart and what happens when decisions are made without love. Without the heart one is easily tricked as one uses other ways to assess, good for food, pleasing to the eye, make one wise. Basically using the ego to rationalize.

Evil wins when the person it victimizes seeks chooses to seek vengeance rather than forgiveness.

@sebastiaanstok

2 ай бұрын

That's how it spreads, like a virus it infects new hosts. It's not the person who does it but the evil that posses them, and the person letting it happen.

@clarkwatson3217

2 ай бұрын

I can give you forgiveness with words and thoughts while seeking revenge with actions and spells. You are evil since birth

@JiraiyaSama86

2 ай бұрын

@@clarkwatson3217 No. You are not evil since birth. You have no concept of morality when you're born. Your ability to perceive morality doesn't start when you're born. You don't even have a real sense of self till after. So, you're wrong about that one.

@clarkwatson3217

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@JiraiyaSama86its in your dna. You are not an animal, you are a vessel of evil which is easy to fill. Ok lets pretend you are unaware of morality until you lie, steal, or hit your tinny brother when you are 3…. If your parents are rapists with a criminal super mind, does they pass such evil traits to you when you are conceived as a human, like they do when they pass their dna to you ?

@JiraiyaSama86

2 ай бұрын

@@clarkwatson3217 You're right. I'm not an animal. I'm a human. Made in the image of God. Who has sinned. And need forgiveness. I don't think you understand what evil truly is.

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12

That just opened my eyes to a lot of the people who either are or have been in my life.

Is it though that it’s all the more striking the supposed good among us turn out to harbour as much menace as the ones who never claim to commit to a goodness of heart. So that in itself ratchets up the degree to how much evil those individuals possess …As in; let’s say, you never display acts of overt compassion, so the fact you don’t care is normalised among the group - the ones who claim to care will often add a certain level of deceit to the mix which heightens the evil we perceive of them, a betrayal of sorts.

So many great book recommendations in under 10 minutes, thanks for that

The real problem is people who imagine themselves to be “good people”, full stop. How can such people be wrong about anything? How could they ever consider that maybe they have evil inside of them and it is a battle as to which inclination you nurture? How can I ever see that the real outcome of some of their well-meaning intentions is actually just as evil as those with evil intentions?

Its the true definition of “insidious”

I know from my own experience that you can't fight Satan with your own strength I rely on Jehovah and his son Jesus to help me transform internally the bad potential desires within me it's not easy at all

Fun fact, most religion hi-jacked (religious) moral authority themselves. Like it's some power besides ourselves which only they truly know all about.

James Russell Lowell's poem The Present Crisis highlights these ideas, and shows them as an easily manipulated, cyclical part of society.

Thanks

This is a very profound clip for only being 6 mins long. I think a major failing of people today is staying ignorant to true evil. In JP’s interview with Jim Caviezel and Tim Ballard, Jim made a comment that people look to the devil to learn about evil, but he looks to Christ to learn about evil. Because, the devil will always deceive you, whereas Christ is truth. What better way for the devil, or the great deceiver, to mislead people, than to hide what the true nature of evil is? Very thought provoking topic.

1:47 hits hard experiencing all those phoney people using religiosity to look good but possess 0 christ like traits in my old catholic school

This is so good.

We call betrayal of the truth a lie. “Thaw shalt not bear false witness” (the Ten Commandments) and “do not participate in lies” (Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn).

Iranian government uses Islam, Israeli government uses the Judaism, America and the West uses democracy, and human rights....

eye opening. Story of the Pharasees more relevant than ever now

@danielvalderrabano9566

2 ай бұрын

I reccomend you to check out "The New Revelation" by Jakob Lorber Peace, brother.

@dianetm8557

2 ай бұрын

Yes. Like the “white washed sepulchre” comment. All lovely on the outside but full of rot and corruption inside. God help me to allow Him to shine the light into my hidden rooms.

It is inspiring how you see nonobvious sense in these ancient books. The true sense cause that was the way of thinking of our ancestors, through methaphors. Today people are much more direct therefore they lost a part of their soul.

Jordan has articulated that his attention does not experience the feeling that he is tired, he just suddenly falls asleep. This means that Jordan's attention is rogue-- it is not participating, predicting, and preparing for his internal biological, systemic, and developmental needs. In the video "How to handle a rebellious child kzread.info/dash/bejne/oZ56p7ybhs6nfM4.htmlsi=IpTpCgPff3KDVPtb" Jordan describes forcing his children to sever all connections between their attention and their homeostasis. Homeostasis is the regulating and balancing of internal biological systems, in a changing external environment, through translating internal feedback into relevant predictions and adaptations. (Jordan's daughter) Mikhaila's internalization of Jordan's rogue attention forced her biological systems to become severely imbalanced due to Jordan's relentless contradiction of homeostasis and human development needs.

@RobertPlatt-hd7go

2 ай бұрын

That's pretty deep bud not sure if you know but 🎉

_"Jesus accused the Pharisees"_ -- and Jesus was 100% right!

The most evil people take the highest good and invert it. 👍🏻Yes.

If you have to go out of your way to be kind or good or "help others" to just be a "good person", your intentions are not pure. Should not have to try to be good, just simply be it.

This clip is very helpful to understan the flame🔥 of evil darts

I don't understand the connection between using benevolence as a facade to do evil and tearing down the posters of kidnapped Israelis captive in Gaza. The people who are tearing down the posters don't seem to even be trying to portray a facade of goodness or benevolence. The only way that would be plausible is if the people tearing down the posters are doing it bc they are the victims or defending a more "oppressed" group of people. I wish Shrier would have elaborated more on this point. Even as someone who thinks 🇮🇱 war in Gaza is justified after the horrors hamas committed, I still think it's tragic the civilian deaths in Gaza. Yes, hamas provoked this war and are fully responsible for the carnage that has happened, but I would never tear down the poster of a dead palestinian child or civilian who was killed or hurt in the conflict. The deaths of everyone in this conflict is an absolute tragedy. Even the terrorists who deserve it. Once I spoke with an Israeli navy seal who was telling me about his experience in combat. He said I killed bad people who deserved to die, but it still pains me because that person I killed has parents, siblings, family, and friends. Taking the life of someone even if they deserve it is hard and painful.

@RobertPlatt-hd7go

2 ай бұрын

True🎉

I pray he accepts Christ

@barbaramoore6111

2 ай бұрын

How do you know he hasn't? You do not.

@cutiepiebb

2 ай бұрын

@@barbaramoore6111 I don't know, that's why I pray lol

Loved this. Played this map all the time back in the day. Even titan ai got bamboozled by the skraelings lol, had some gnarly ffa's. GGs keep up the grind

Another great book on this subject: The People of the Lie, by Scott Peck, who also wrote The Road Less Travelled.

My ex psychopath husband of 30 yrs. Double life. Who knew?

Evil is also a kin to “ ignorance “

@clarkwatson3217

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 No. Is bill Gates ignorant ? Hitler ? Drug cartels ?

@areuaware6842

2 ай бұрын

Religion is evil and demands ignorance.

@sarabavota

2 ай бұрын

​@@areuaware6842Cults are evil, not religions

@clarkwatson3217

2 ай бұрын

@@areuaware6842lol what ? You know religion demands the creation of its own philosophy which must be written in hundreds of books. Can You read a paragraph, kid ?

@kennorthunder2428

2 ай бұрын

Evil has "tells" to it: Ignorance, willful blindness, irrationality, double standards, faux virtue, haughtiness, rashness, unwilingness to be examined/critiqued/damned.

I can’t help but think of Denis Villeneuve’s variant portrayals of evil in Dune Part II as I listen to this. Can’t wait to see Peterson’s reaction to it.

We love Dante's Inferno, Milton's Paradise Lost (both with Gustave Doré's illustrations), and of course Goethe's Faust. ❤

He forgot the deepest taxonomy on evil - The Bible.

@josuejimenez3562

2 ай бұрын

In fact, the Bible briefly touches upon the nature of the subject and its moral implications. However, it does not delve into a comprehensive taxonomic analysis, which involves a detailed examination of the existence and characteristics of evil.

The worst psychopaths manipulate you with compassion, the most evil people take the highest good, and invert it. J U S T I N T R U D E A U

I know that line between good and evil runs in my own heart ; I have been conscious of the weight of that ever since; the power to make the right choice was mine in every moment of my existence; sadly I would have no regrets today had I made the right call then.

I found the texts Dr Peteson suggested helpful. He is spot on with Dante. Dosteoveky's Notes from the Underground is a tragic story about evil's indifference. I also found this book very good: Roy F Baumeister's "Evil: Inside Human Violence and Cruelty."

This is surprisingly ironic..