The Problem With Seraphine

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I analyze the Seraphine and K/DA social media promotional campaign in attempt to understand what didn't sit right with folks about her.
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  • @FishingLesbian
    @FishingLesbian3 жыл бұрын

    It is astonishing how they managed to make almost every single group of league fans angry with this one character and campaign. One aspect of Seraphine that pisses off yet another group of league fans is her canonical in game lore in which she is one of the only people who is aware of the Brackern genocide. The Brackern being crystal scorpions whose souls exist in crystals, which many human characters have used said crystals and said souls to power their machines. Seraphine can communicate with the souls in the crystals and hears of their sad plight but instead of doing anything about it she shoved the soul crystals in a hoverboard that amplifies her music so she can be a big pop star all while acting like a good guy. How they managed to piss off even the lore nerds with this character baffles me.

  • @AlexandraOrlando

    @AlexandraOrlando

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh god yeah I didn't even get into the lore side because it's just a whole thing on it's own. She exists in three different universes and has a completely different personality for each.

  • @AzureRoxe

    @AzureRoxe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even her voice lines are like that. She ACTUALLY ASKS SKARNER IF HE WANTS TO HEAR THEM. Just imagine asking someone if they want to hear the screams of their people, who are in pain BECAUSE OF YOU, and actually think it's a good thing.

  • @chimpandrilo

    @chimpandrilo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not the chinese fan base though. To quote president Trump "CHINA!"

  • @Lichtschutzfaktor1

    @Lichtschutzfaktor1

    2 жыл бұрын

    this storly line feels really familiar. the crystals that hold souls and can power machenery are a big part of the story of one of brandon sandersons book series. idk if they yoinked that but it sounds so oddly the same.

  • @princessbreeminecraft3821

    @princessbreeminecraft3821

    2 жыл бұрын

    The fact she's another character with another crystal is just baffling. Even after changing it the second time to her not knowing while Camille promoted genocide with the Brackern crystals before the synthetic crystals. We literally have champions that are killing his people without knowing

  • @neptunviro
    @neptunviro3 жыл бұрын

    The mental health issues were... cringe

  • @neptunviro

    @neptunviro

    3 жыл бұрын

    To connect with people today we have to use a psychological forced language about enquadrate yourself in disturbs you think you identify yourself?!

  • @magnuscritikaleak5045

    @magnuscritikaleak5045

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@neptunviro lets not forget the deity imagery that insta Seraphine potrays herself as Aphrodite or better known as Goddess Ishtar whoch is highly narcisstic.

  • @Minihood31770
    @Minihood317703 жыл бұрын

    I saw a tweet calling this account out, and it took me a little while to realise that it was just a branding exercise. For a few seconds I thought "this person seems to be having mental health issues, that callout tweet seems kind of mean" Then suddenly the realisation, "wait, this isn't even a real fucking person?!" It feels so gross. It's like the evolution of #relatable brand accounts like Wendy's. Let's pretend that we're an actual human being with feelings. We'll manipulate you into caring about a fictional person, not for any sort of narrative catharsis, but just so that you care slightly more about the brand. Capitalism caused a mental health crisis, and profits off that further by emulating a mental health crisis. Truly nothing is sacred. Everything is to be refined and extracted for maximal profit.

  • @knight-of-rain

    @knight-of-rain

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful comment I agree 100%

  • @princessbreeminecraft3821

    @princessbreeminecraft3821

    2 жыл бұрын

    The fact Riot is the second company to use mental health issues to sell a skin, the first being Blizzard with negative stereotypes to sell a skin and spray for Sigma. People found it gross because of how they handled it with an Asylum skin and Brain Scan Spray

  • @Slivarito
    @Slivarito3 жыл бұрын

    Hard to put into words just how uncomfortable and... off Seraphine felt by the end of this all, but you did a good job summarizing it. #Blessed is definitely where I started to get annoyed, and the current era of her posting just made me feel gross.

  • @pakothesheep558
    @pakothesheep5583 жыл бұрын

    I think 37 employee from riot watched this video :)

  • @niclasbelrra
    @niclasbelrra3 жыл бұрын

    Marketing and Riot games don't fail to disgust me once more.

  • @magnuscritikaleak5045

    @magnuscritikaleak5045

    3 жыл бұрын

    Manipulative RNG MECAHNICS AND FALSE ADVERTISING from them is lower they could go. Did you lnow there is a Skin Roulette feature coming soon to League onternational servers?

  • @jamesilagan189
    @jamesilagan1893 жыл бұрын

    The thing that bother simple players like me is how her runterran persona doesn't have the effort her k/da version got also her gameplay kit is straight up just a rush didn't even bother for kit uniqueness. On her lore side about her hearing the voices of the brackern but still jamming those soul-bearing-crystals to her amplifier/stage/board is so hypocritical imo, it kinda corresponds to what you're calling out on that seradotwav twitter, it's just feels hypocrisy and ruse, that sera is not somebody who's emotionally real no not just that SERA IS NOT REAL it's just a PR team! and I really can't get over her runterran lore it's just so dirty. Lmao last time I even bothered League lore was like a long time ago damn.

  • @cookiesyruplover
    @cookiesyruplover3 жыл бұрын

    I think what hurts is that I took comfort at the idea of Seraphine, I was so excited for her release. When the realization hit that it's just a brand advertising in an awkward attempt to be relatable, the joy it gave went away and it's all empty. Parasocial relationships have become more relevant in the past couple of years and through the release of Seraphine it's clear how easy it is to exploit and how unaware the masses are about it. Something so clearly wrong hidden in plain sight. It's terrifying!

  • @AlexandraOrlando

    @AlexandraOrlando

    3 жыл бұрын

    It hurts a lot! I've seen the positive impact Seraphine has had on the community. I think there is a lot of value to having a female self-insert character in League especially this year as you point out.

  • @cookiesyruplover

    @cookiesyruplover

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexandraOrlando Thank you for the video. I had a hard time understanding why I felt bad about her. It's sad how people don't want to discuss it. Seraphine makes people happy yes but there is an important issue that needs to be addressed. A character can be good and fun AND still be used in a exploitive way for money. Both are true at the same time. We can take in the good but we shouldn't ignore the bad either.

  • @proxi315
    @proxi3153 жыл бұрын

    This and nickyboy are the most eye-opening videos on the topic and it honestly hurts so much to see the direction league is taking. Not only will they still profit from this nonsense, they won't stop because they basically do whatever they want at this point. As if this isn't enough the skin isn't refundable apparently. Mans chilling smite just bought the skin to make a video and then couldn't get his money back

  • @TyranusRex721
    @TyranusRex7213 жыл бұрын

    The reason why Riot continues to do a disservice of champions who are bipoc is because those champions are not popular in China. China is their #1 market after all. Hell, Seraphine is designed specifically for the Chinese audience in mind. And until China starts to care about characters who's skin tone is not pale as snow, characters with dark skin will continued to be overlooked and ignored.

  • @VaIinar

    @VaIinar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Us north americans must overpopulate our continent!

  • @Zucciniily
    @Zucciniily3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I don't even play LoL or know anything about the lore whatsoever.... But heck, these Tweets make me uncomfortable ;; The mental health ones are a big no no to me. And I really don't understand why some of these replies act as if she's a real person? Anyway, great video!

  • @AzureRoxe
    @AzureRoxe3 жыл бұрын

    The worse part is that this is being done to sell you a virtual skin for a character in a game. Seraphine doesn't exist, she's a dumb champ in a dumb game that has over 100 other champs. Riot is literally manipulating emotions and using self-doubt and depression, in the middle of a fucking pandemic, to convince the k-pop stans to give buy a $35 skin [and this is without counting the fact many will throw money to buy the champion itself]. It is actually disgusting to see this at work in real time.

  • @tidaloctoling715
    @tidaloctoling7153 жыл бұрын

    As much as I really wanted great things for Seraphine, each time she keeps disappointing me, I had a lot of theories about her being a siren from Bilgewater, to being a relative to Sona, but Riot really did combine pop and art yet made a flop.

  • @LastGod99

    @LastGod99

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is an old comment, but, shit, a siren from bilgewater, if done right, would've been great and would've fit in the world.... Shit

  • @nicoleb.5254
    @nicoleb.52543 жыл бұрын

    I think seraphine was just forced to be added, because they were paid by chinese. I guess

  • @2Btoobee

    @2Btoobee

    3 жыл бұрын

    this is true

  • @levi_exiled8579
    @levi_exiled85793 жыл бұрын

    What are they trying to do? make a relatable character? No! This is pure cringe that has nothing to with League. Game itself is overloaded and needs to be tuned down. Season 11 isn't even here and I already know that game will be ruined. If game is playable it doesn't mean that it's good. It shouldn't be about win/lose, but about process. People should be able to enjoy the gameplay. I am disgusted with KDA. I know they are focusing on Korean players, but Key pop? Pure cringe.

  • @musthakila

    @musthakila

    3 жыл бұрын

    pre season 11 is pure mess

  • @levi_exiled8579

    @levi_exiled8579

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@musthakila yep it is. I know things will change but they ruined Rivens main item - Death's Dance and Black Cleaver. Had few games and couldn't find a decent sustain item. Watched Deveyx3 and he is a complete clown like most League KZreadrs

  • @hyberkonawa272
    @hyberkonawa2723 жыл бұрын

    Seraphine is Chinese... why join KDA? all members are Korean.

  • @maxwellbaker1790
    @maxwellbaker17902 жыл бұрын

    Preach preacher preach

  • @princessbreeminecraft3821
    @princessbreeminecraft38212 жыл бұрын

    Riot isn't the first company to use mental illness as a selling point for a skin. Blizzard used it but had negative stereotypes to sell an asylum skin and brain scan spray for Sigma. The movie Glass is another example of mental illness in disguise as it was advertised as a superhero movie. We have a lot of misinterpretations of mental illness out there that are as bad as Seraphine's campaign. Even video games can get it wrong

  • @sprazz8668
    @sprazz86682 жыл бұрын

    THIS IS SO UNCANNY

  • @xxCrimsonSpiritxx
    @xxCrimsonSpiritxx3 жыл бұрын

    this champion existed for reason, "K-pop and skins" bait

  • @nj78572
    @nj785723 жыл бұрын

    I can't understand people that defend or love this character. You think Riot cares about your mental health? You think Tencent cares? They just want you to spend money on their game. I mean for goodness sake, Riot was recently in a multi-million dollar lawsuit for gender discrimination and allegations of sexual misconduct. This is so fucked up.

  • @raylenn4444

    @raylenn4444

    3 жыл бұрын

    yup exactly

  • @msk-qp6fn
    @msk-qp6fn2 жыл бұрын

    My shallow reason for not liking the new kda stuff including Seraphine is that I felt the aesthetic, while well made and shiny, was too typical Chinese 3d plastic. I really wish they kept the animation style for the Pop/stars. Kinda feel similarly about the new songs too. I don't think the kda characters' dancing movement was as good as Pop/star either.

  • @pixelpudding3914
    @pixelpudding39143 жыл бұрын

    But imagine being an employee at Riot and your boss walks up to you and says “Go pretend to be a K-pop idol on Twitter or I won’t give you you’re salary”

  • @hjlee4721
    @hjlee47213 жыл бұрын

    How bad champion it is!!! Just copied Sona's skillset!!! Riot just considered about her appearance!!!

  • @nickraph67

    @nickraph67

    3 жыл бұрын

    Her skills are more similar to neeko compared to sona tho....people lost their shit cuz sona was the only music champ and seraphine also being music champ....her Q and E is copy of neeko, her W kinda like karma shield but with added heal after long time....her ult is kinda combination of yuumi ult and ahri E or maybe sona ult......while seraphine QWE skills are nothing like sona....

  • @LeevinYRon

    @LeevinYRon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Disagreed... For me Her skill is not that closed as Sona The SS is not same. Not at all?

  • @thepancakepower5436
    @thepancakepower54363 жыл бұрын

    Nothing but facts

  • @hasnayaya
    @hasnayaya2 жыл бұрын

    me who plays seraphine watching like 5 video essays on why she sucks

  • @okidoxb4846
    @okidoxb48462 жыл бұрын

    marketing team shouldn't be allowed to drive the bus especially when it comes to making champs. Tell me why KDA sera has more character development and lore written on her than not only her OWN canon runeterran version...but also whole older champs?! Alistar, Malz, Cho, Kog'maw, Shaco, Rek'sai, Bard...the list goes on and on some of these champs don't even have updated bios. Garen has a WHOLE NOVEL written on him and it was barely advertised, at all. But this non-canon skin AU gets the ALL-WORKS?! Come on if thats not marketing driven favoritism idk what is.

  • @knight-of-rain
    @knight-of-rain3 жыл бұрын

    Corporations trying to be hashtag relatable, using memes and sass, and now this. It's revolting and upsetting.

  • @imnova5173
    @imnova51733 жыл бұрын

    This is a sounds good at time, no clue how itll happen idea. The journey of following someone to stardom and fantasy sounds good at base level for a narrative. They follow the theme on Twitter, in game skin, the long hype. Insert manipulation, world issues, less resources into other areas such as other champions. She seems shoved into the world Not even mentioning her kit copy problems, lore problems, ultimate skin problem, popstar to popstar skin problem, no hype/continuation after release problem.

  • @ezekielkashmir5092
    @ezekielkashmir50923 жыл бұрын

    Belle Delphine

  • @jokeen2006
    @jokeen20063 жыл бұрын

    Skarner...I feel bad for him. I hope he gets a "V for Vendetta" moment

  • @VaIinar

    @VaIinar

    3 жыл бұрын

    rEtrIBuTiOn!

  • @princessbreeminecraft3821

    @princessbreeminecraft3821

    2 жыл бұрын

    If he gets his revenge on Camille and takes back his crystals from the other champions with his crystals then yes

  • @felioliver2662
    @felioliver26623 жыл бұрын

    hahahahha

  • @charleouel9012
    @charleouel90123 жыл бұрын

    I didn't follow it but that does sond a bit shity for sure it one thing to comunicate whit your fan but it an other to fake being someone on media whene parth of your persone you add it are kids.

  • @alinafagerhaug2844
    @alinafagerhaug28443 жыл бұрын

    Belle Delphine 🤮

  • @ErinaSato

    @ErinaSato

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ew-

  • @lux1975
    @lux19753 жыл бұрын

    oh no, we don’t talk about ms flop samira. bullshit abilities and a stolen qiyana e 😍

  • @AlexandraOrlando

    @AlexandraOrlando

    3 жыл бұрын

    If we are talking pure kit (which I don't focus on in my video at all) then Seraphine is much more unoriginal 🤷

  • @acesarmiento7838

    @acesarmiento7838

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't ya talk about Latina DMC queen like that

  • @magnuscritikaleak5045

    @magnuscritikaleak5045

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexandraOrlando hey Alexandra if you look closely at Samira's avility kit, you can tell she doesn't really belong on Runettera due to how she interacts with her teammate dialogue and movsets because she fits and resembles more of an OP Dynasty warriors character's offspring aka Zhurong X Xiahou Dun.

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