The Plight of The Wapiti - Red Dead Redemption 2

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  • @Fizhy
    @Fizhy2 жыл бұрын

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  • @reaver1401

    @reaver1401

    2 жыл бұрын

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    @Jumpydaboss

    2 жыл бұрын

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    @ugfpandas007

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @yeetmcson24

    @yeetmcson24

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh he sent with my wapiti idea. Huh. That's actually kinda cool

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    @ryanmcwilliams8784

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @melodicsatisfactionproductions
    @melodicsatisfactionproductions2 жыл бұрын

    "Do not mistake my strength for weakness" is my favorite quote from the game. Rains Fall is one of my top 5 characters from it as well.

  • @markzuckerberg1544

    @markzuckerberg1544

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yo didn’t Conor McGregor say this too lol

  • @chineseobama6043

    @chineseobama6043

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agent Milton has a pretty similar quote to this in Fleeting Joy

  • @luke.griffiths

    @luke.griffiths

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Uncle GOT LUMBAGO

  • @jacobjohns6047

    @jacobjohns6047

    2 жыл бұрын

    Graham greene is a great actor I'm glad they got him for the roll he lives in my hometown humble guy

  • @dutch4260

    @dutch4260

    2 жыл бұрын

    The story of the Wapiti tribe makes me want to cry. On its own it's extremely compelling & draws significant parallels to the real world.

  • @cydude5856
    @cydude58562 жыл бұрын

    I love the instant compassion between Rains Fall and Arthur. Rains Fall is a man who has seen many people senselessly killed, but understands that killers are still people, while Arthur is a man who has senselessly killed before, but understands his past foolishness and understands how Rains Fall is a brave leader despite his lack of violence.

  • @bosunbill9059

    @bosunbill9059

    2 жыл бұрын

    I felt Bronte's quote apply perfectly for Rainfall : "Whoever is stupid enough to get tricked by Americans get what they deserved."

  • @cydude5856

    @cydude5856

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bosunbill9059 Rains Fall's position is one that is really just tragic. He was forced into war at a young age, where he lost and had his entire family aside from his youngest son murdered. He tried to stop the war by making peace, but that just ended up with his people being worse off and not fighting back.

  • @amethystlord

    @amethystlord

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bosunbill9059 alot of twisted irony im that quote

  • @savagegtalks5912

    @savagegtalks5912

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cydude5856 naive people don't know when they being invaded, they just have females and weak males screaming "racist" at you when you try to defend yourself in time...

  • @TheNinja94a

    @TheNinja94a

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bosunbill9059 Yo anime profile pic, they weren't tricked, they were shot, raped, and murdered, with their animals being hunted to extinction in an open attempt at genocide (read quotes from colonels about why they decided to hunt bison to near-extinction). Then they were given treaties they _had_ to sign out of desperation, and the colonizers _still_ broke said treaties. It's all shit. Just murky, wet shit. And I hate to think about it.

  • @puggumpus
    @puggumpus2 жыл бұрын

    The sad thing is how this story about the natives isn't exaggerated at all

  • @ilikepigeons6101

    @ilikepigeons6101

    2 жыл бұрын

    history of the "greatests" lands are always shady af

  • @willieb.haardigan8984

    @willieb.haardigan8984

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ilikepigeons6101 you put it in quotes like empires aren’t built on blood and bones everywhere.

  • @ilikepigeons6101

    @ilikepigeons6101

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@willieb.haardigan8984 yeah true true

  • @EnclaveHater07

    @EnclaveHater07

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@willieb.haardigan8984 His point still stands. America is just the lastest to spawn amongst a world built upon blood feuds.

  • @willieb.haardigan8984

    @willieb.haardigan8984

    2 жыл бұрын

    To a certain extent, war and bloodshed shouldn’t marginalize the accomplishments of a nation.

  • @flowersinawasteland
    @flowersinawasteland Жыл бұрын

    captain monroe has got to be one of the most honorable characters in the game

  • @jackp.richardson6415

    @jackp.richardson6415

    Жыл бұрын

    He served his nation bravely just for his superiors high on their own ego to brand him as a traitor. Were it not for Arthur overhearing & the natives he fought to protect, he would’ve hanged for nothing.

  • @brannoncody809

    @brannoncody809

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jackp.richardson6415 Trying to do the right thing only to be buried under bullshit from your superiors, who are likely making money off the objective wrongdoing being brought to light. A true American tradition.

  • @burninsherman1037

    @burninsherman1037

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@brannoncody809sadly, it truly is one of our oldest traditions. Fucked up country we got, ain't it?

  • @nashzahm

    @nashzahm

    Ай бұрын

    Monroe only wants whats right, he is the example of a pure man trying to fix a broken system.

  • @Anonymous-fw6je
    @Anonymous-fw6je2 жыл бұрын

    Hearing the genuine pain in Rains Fall's voice as he tries to convince his son not to go off and fight is just... Top tier voice acting

  • @falloutghoul1

    @falloutghoul1

    9 ай бұрын

    And the GRIEF over the desecration of the site was heartbreaking to witness.

  • @flufflewarrior

    @flufflewarrior

    6 ай бұрын

    Absolutely agree! One of the scenes that really broke my heart. Rains Fall's probably knew that his son would die. (At least that's what I think). Just imagine watching your son ride to their doom.

  • @Darthdoodoo

    @Darthdoodoo

    Ай бұрын

    Imagine how it would feel. Id rather put an arrow in my own sons arm to stop him from going to get killed then let him go. Get us all killed

  • @Poke-ladd
    @Poke-ladd2 жыл бұрын

    I feel so sad when you see him in the epilogue and he’s at the train station

  • @johnaustin209

    @johnaustin209

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe he came to visit his sons grave.

  • @johnaustin209

    @johnaustin209

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Gamfluent True, hopefully.

  • @ChloeGPotter

    @ChloeGPotter

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Gamfluent unfortunately, they were probably treated badly in Canada too

  • @yeetmcson24

    @yeetmcson24

    2 жыл бұрын

    How to get high honour in the epilogue. Valentine station. The park in Saint Denis. And the station in Annesburg. Stupid ammount of honour gained by talking to someone

  • @applepvw

    @applepvw

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Gamfluent They were probably treated worse in canada tbh

  • @JoeMercersWay
    @JoeMercersWay2 жыл бұрын

    It's the 3rd person view Arthur needed to see of how Dutch manipulates other vulnerable people to realise what he'd done to the gang the whole time. Countless minions killed expendably due to Dutch's grand schemes designed to serve his own self-interest.

  • @CosmicDominator

    @CosmicDominator

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah he’s a narcissist he showed his true self in chapter six he literally left Arthur to die in the factory showing he sees Arthur as expendable and is a loose end with all his doubting

  • @ANNEKE1999
    @ANNEKE19992 жыл бұрын

    13:29 This shows exactly what a type of person Dutch is. He mocks one of his oldest friends, a man who he raised as his son. What a shame Arthur didn't see it earlier.

  • @sharp7079

    @sharp7079

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep. His true self was only hidden behind the noble facade he had.

  • @jackkreanxx2935

    @jackkreanxx2935

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think that fact wasn’t lost on Arthur, but compared to John who though Dutch just became his true self Arthur though Dutch went astray with Micah whispering in his ear

  • @Cody-ps3wy

    @Cody-ps3wy

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do think Dutch did care about Arthur and the others in the early chapter’s but because of his greed combined with a head injury along with Micah manipulating him kinda changed him in away it brought out what he really was an uncaring outlaw he then just turned away from everyone he trusted and only ever trusted Micah in the end and as he says Arthur was like a brother to him he ended up stabbing him in the back over and over again when he wouldn’t listen and by the time he had realised what he had done when confronting Arthur on the hill at the end of the game it was too late and all he could do was just walk away and probably just watch Arthur die on that hill I’m guessing he kinda lost it afterwards as seen in rdr1 and just decided to be a true outlaw since there was no turning back for him

  • @JoeMercersWay

    @JoeMercersWay

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think Dutch saw what he lost when he went with the Hosea plan fot the bank, which he clearly doubted, and it went wrong. The result was he double downed on his narcissistic, solipsistic ego and the whole thing went off the rails.

  • @gregm.stanley8221

    @gregm.stanley8221

    2 жыл бұрын

    A snake crawled into the garden, poisoning him. Not just any snake, but the snakiest of snakes lol . Plus, he lost his counterbalance in Hosea. Also, he took a blow to the head; otherwise, Dutch may have remained the great man he at least appeared to be before that. Like Sadie said, he wasn't the same man that wrapped that blanket around her after her O'driscolls incident. I honestly missed that he maybe got brain damage in my 1st playthrough, as it all just seems like the natural evolution for Dutch. And they don't show enough of him struggling with mental clarity or what have you. Sorry so long.

  • @silaskura
    @silaskura2 жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie, I got teary in the epilogue where John's talking to Rains Fall when he mentions he doesn't really know why he's there

  • @ChibiPanda8888

    @ChibiPanda8888

    11 ай бұрын

    It made me sad too. It seemed to me he might have been suffering from the early stages of dementia. He doesn't really know why he's there and his son is long dead, but he's there for his son... Either that or he's searching trying to find meaning in life again. Either way, it's very sad.

  • @johnaustin209
    @johnaustin2092 жыл бұрын

    The Wapiti story missions do add darkness to the already depressing chapter 6. The whole athmosphere makes me just want to skip the whole chapter. But heck, it's still the most touching part of the story.

  • @charliekoughing866
    @charliekoughing8662 жыл бұрын

    As a Lakota, I gotta say I feel the plight of my Ancestors at the time was respectfully done whilst maintaining the truth of the era. It was heartbreaking for me to see, not gonna lie, but it was supposed to be.

  • @tayzadayzah6681

    @tayzadayzah6681

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry for the past, but hopefully the future holds cooperation and understanding rather than more pain. There's so much different cultures could learn from each other.

  • @anonymusug727

    @anonymusug727

    Жыл бұрын

    I dont even distantly know how things were about your people cause im from Germany but i think one Problem between settlers and Natives was that the natives didnt have a government to represent them against the fully politicised American people , i hope i havent portrayed anything wrong with this.

  • @magnipettersson4432

    @magnipettersson4432

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anonymusug727 no. Its the fact that native americans literally went from millions to just a few tribes left with. And even with 95% of them dead from european diseases they still gave fkn battles still talked about today. Battles wich even sound fantastical. A strong and hardy people. I am scandinavian but i mostly study my own peoples history and yet i still get to learn about native americans since we were in america for 400 years uninterrupted while trading and living next to native americans Skrællingr was the name we gave the people as it means "small folk" Likely because the old norse were units. Or rather we are units but thats treading into anthropology My own ancestors didnt even distinguish between inuit and mainland people wich i find a bit hilarious. If native americans werent destroyed by disease the americas would be their lands still. First of all. You cant fight millions of people by sailing there. Especially when you realise they have no great forts or specific places they stayed. We would never have won just like when the norse were kicked out of the americas the natives are simply way too numerous even if Scandinavians at this point had established martial arts for war and were highly trained to combat other humand and had steel axes and swords of pretty high quality. It made no difference. 400 years of settlement and thriving didnt even make a dent to the native americans. (The norse problaby even married into alot of natives and vice versa as 400 years is more than enough for that) the true victory for the post Columbus settlements was their own resistance to diseases and the natives lack of it. (I know some diseases went the other way too. But seeing as there were always new folk arriving it was just a waiting game)

  • @loganmaddocks4703

    @loganmaddocks4703

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anonymusug727 I believe your opinion has truth in it. Its a piece machine that overcame the Native Americans. The technological, industrial, and population advantage of the settlers couldnt be defeated. They fought back bravely and they should have. Their way of life was in danger. They tried to adapt by learning to ride horses and becoming execellent riders and riflemen. A lot gained arms and tried to be peaceful and trade and live cooperatively. In the end the American government couldnt have another entity within its borders, so they were eventually ground to where they are today. Its a true tragedy of what humans do to each other when pushed to the brink.

  • @nalabatch

    @nalabatch

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anonymusug727 doesnt matter our ancestors stole America from the Native this is sad i never feel in my place here in Canada ...Well what can i do now i support our Natives and respect them

  • @mundanephysics521
    @mundanephysics5212 жыл бұрын

    Rains Fall was such a good guy who really got a bad hand through the story. I can't help but feel bad for him as not only does he lose his entire family through his only son being killed thanks to Dutch's actions, but the reservation as well come the end of the game.

  • @ANNEKE1999

    @ANNEKE1999

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree but Eagle Flies is not his only son but the last son who is still alive. Which makes it even more dramatic.

  • @mundanephysics521

    @mundanephysics521

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ANNEKE1999 Oh yes, I knew that, I suppose I should've worded it as his only son left alive. Poor guy lost his entire family by the end of the game...

  • @ANNEKE1999

    @ANNEKE1999

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mundanephysics521 This was the part of the story that made me so goddamn sad. Rains Fall was not an outlaw or a bad person, he just wanted peace for his people. And all he got was grief.

  • @elperrodelautumo7511

    @elperrodelautumo7511

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also fun fact. I always thought Rains Fall resembled Tupac Amaru II. Leader of the his indigenous rebellion of Peru. Supposed last descendant of the original Incan emperor Tupac Amaru I. He was martyr for pushing Peru and all of Latin America into warring against Spain for independence. At least the hat on Rains Fall adds that Tupac look into him.

  • @burninsherman1037

    @burninsherman1037

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@elperrodelautumo7511I'll have to look into that guy. Sounds like a fuckin chad of history.

  • @mykenzieforbes5125
    @mykenzieforbes51252 жыл бұрын

    The missions with the wapiti were my favorite on my first play through. Seeing how the game shows just a glimpse of the reality natives went through and how Arthur reacts to both them and the actions of his gang.

  • @Jul_Vy_Mdama

    @Jul_Vy_Mdama

    2 жыл бұрын

    We still go through this, but in different fashions..

  • @sonofanarchy6254

    @sonofanarchy6254

    2 жыл бұрын

    if you like native americans id suggest watching the movie “dances with wolves” its about an army lieutenant in the civil war who becomes friends with the nearby tribe and its an amazing movie.

  • @CoolGuy-xf3hb

    @CoolGuy-xf3hb

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sonofanarchy6254 I loved that movie

  • @CoolGuy-xf3hb

    @CoolGuy-xf3hb

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Jul_Vy_Mdama I’d say now things are lax, but I’m up in Canada working under treaties from years ago back from the Indian Act, whereas British Columbia has instilled modern treaties, but then again; we have the situation of mass graves. So yea, it is to an extent, but progress has definitely been made.

  • @hoagiemacintosh781

    @hoagiemacintosh781

    Жыл бұрын

    Weird it didn’t show the reality of native tribes conquering and enslaving other tribes…

  • @Thej611
    @Thej611 Жыл бұрын

    The scene with Rains Falls trying to stop the attack on the oil field always breaks my heart. He sounds so broken and defeated it just kills me

  • @JamesSmith-ny2gb
    @JamesSmith-ny2gb2 жыл бұрын

    The last chapter is mad depressing, Arthur getting terminally Ill, the gang falling apart, Dutch loosing his mind and to top it all off seeing the destruction of a proud Native American tribe

  • @Super-wx6br
    @Super-wx6br Жыл бұрын

    I like how both Arthur and Rains Fall had the same line of "don't die for pride"

  • @MarvinT0606

    @MarvinT0606

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to believe this happened before Arthur rescues Archie Downes from the mines. Arthur must have seen himself in Rains Fall, trying to hold his "tribe" together while Dutch goes out of his way to commit more high-profile crimes which lead to their gang's disbandment.

  • @Bigred6077
    @Bigred60772 жыл бұрын

    I cried when Rains Fall was trying to stop his people from war "As your chief I implore you" "Your words mean nothing to me father" "Don't... stop please... stop" This interaction came from a man with desperation and disbelief. At that moment he felt like everything was out of his control and no one listened even his own son. It hurts and it hurts worse during the fall of his son and the epilogue. The man who did everything in his power to stop his people from extinction only to lose it all. He had more wisdom than anyone else and his words should be remembered forever.

  • @atomictrice4063

    @atomictrice4063

    Жыл бұрын

    When I saw this moment on my first playthrough I shed a tear. I had sympathized with Rains Fall the whole game just to see that

  • @shaheerthekhan

    @shaheerthekhan

    Жыл бұрын

    It's sad to know events like these happend and aren't talked about

  • @uba764

    @uba764

    Жыл бұрын

    not that bad bro

  • @unfortunateson1938

    @unfortunateson1938

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shaheerthekhan both ways. It is actually terrifying how many people survived Native American attacks (including being scalped) and vice versa like it was just an ordinary thing. Same thing with the people that committed these atrocities upon the native Americans. Imagine committing these atrocities and then having to live with the guilt of knowing that future generations will hate you because you’re the tool of the state that has to risk your life for shit treatment and shit pay.

  • @taten007

    @taten007

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean, no shit. That’s kinda what the game was going for.

  • @kirk-careem
    @kirk-careem2 жыл бұрын

    As an aside, in the mission where you retrieve the talisman from the army for Rains Fall, you can sneak in and take it without hurting any of the men. When Rains Fall asks if anyone was hurt, Arthur says no, and as a thank you, Rains Fall gives him a trinket (I think it's an owl feather) which is a unique item. If memory serves, it reduces his stamina drain quite a bit. More importantly though, I prefer playing it that way to honour the request and respect Rains Fall's wishes.

  • @cupcakecomrade2378

    @cupcakecomrade2378

    Жыл бұрын

    your doing it the rtight way is the reason. Killing the soliders just gives more reason to the army, not killing the soliders makes it so now the army seems unreasonable (if the press didnt lie) and at the very least, provides deniability to any lies of savagery.

  • @ntfoperative9432

    @ntfoperative9432

    Жыл бұрын

    Actually, all you have to do is not kill. I charged in and punched everyone's lights out, and still got the trinket

  • @Nzg41

    @Nzg41

    Жыл бұрын

    I tried but screweed up and got spoted

  • @greeneyebear

    @greeneyebear

    Жыл бұрын

    i did too, got spotted as i was taking the items back, i just made a run for it back up the hill. no one got hurt and i was able to get the trinket from Rains Fall

  • @kennyyuliandrika7162

    @kennyyuliandrika7162

    Жыл бұрын

    God damn, after what they done to the sacred place might just kill them. So i did. it doesnt matter if the army in the camp die or live. That bastard Favour is gonna take their land no matter what.

  • @chunkystains8950
    @chunkystains8950 Жыл бұрын

    42:55 Him crying out to his last son and the younger members of the tribe is heartbreaking.

  • @Thecodytree

    @Thecodytree

    11 ай бұрын

    this broke me more than arthur’s death, it’s just so sad :(

  • @Bertaut
    @Bertaut Жыл бұрын

    The epilogue scene where you meet Rains Falls was brutal. That shot of him walking onto the train, a broken, confused old man is one of my favourite moments in the whole game. And by favourite, I mean it was heartbreaking.

  • @goodestpupper9311
    @goodestpupper93112 жыл бұрын

    50:50 that little chuckle the Rain falls gives always gets me. He always saw the good in Arthur.

  • @tanyaflanagan8111
    @tanyaflanagan81112 жыл бұрын

    Through these entire missions all I could think was "I need a wapiti single player dlc....I wanna help them more!!" I was so hoping Charles would mention how they are doing in the epilogue

  • @kix_501st
    @kix_501st Жыл бұрын

    i love how arthur gets more passionate about the situation as it goes on 24:58 you can hear him getting pissed off

  • @Tea_Noire

    @Tea_Noire

    Жыл бұрын

    He probably saw his young self in Eagle Flies, and the father figure he always wanted in Rains Fall, and got pissed off not only because of how royally screwed over the natives were being for no reason, but also because he wished Dutch, his actual father figure, would've shown the same amount of concern for him now and when he was growing up

  • @dem0niker136
    @dem0niker1362 жыл бұрын

    To me this was the best part of RDR2. Rockstar has masterfully woven history into a story of manipulation, deceit and redemption. The way it was setup and culminated into the mission "My Last Boy" where it's Cowboys and Indians charging against the new America, can't get any more poetic than that. So many emotions from goosebumps, hype, anger at Dutch's betrayal to crying towards the end at Eagle Flies' death. To hell with Game of the Year, this is Game of the Century

  • @dying_souls
    @dying_souls2 жыл бұрын

    BTW in mission where you go and return the sacred items for rain falls, if you complete it without killing anyone he will give you a trinket

  • @whiskeybravo91
    @whiskeybravo912 жыл бұрын

    man this quest-line was so epic and I loved doing it with Charles, but in the same breath it's so heart-breaking watching The Wapiti lose what little "freedom" they still had

  • @flowersinawasteland
    @flowersinawasteland Жыл бұрын

    9:56 i like how Rockstar was foreshadowing and planting the seeds for the Wapiti plot line as early as Chapter 1. That’s a detail you wouldn’t pick up on during your first playthough.

  • @MauriceBear
    @MauriceBear2 жыл бұрын

    Casting Graham Greene as Rain’s Fall was a top notch casting by Rockstar which feels like there thing after previous top notch castings from previous games like with GTA. The plight of the Indians has been going on way past this point if you know your American history with the Native Americans it’s not a great history that should be explored more.

  • @jknott1509

    @jknott1509

    2 жыл бұрын

    Whats funny is ive been told by elders from a few different tribes that reservation was one of the worst things done to the natives. Maybe there were better options we couldve made

  • @wetmemedaddy5065

    @wetmemedaddy5065

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jknott1509 real funny to a lackwit like you

  • @amethystlord

    @amethystlord

    2 жыл бұрын

    The native Americans were given a raw deal at literally every turn sadly. And their plight and suffering Really doesn't get as much attention as it should, and not much was done to rectify what happened

  • @burninsherman1037

    @burninsherman1037

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes indeed. I encourage anyone who reads this to take the time to listen to some native people about their history, and the treatment they've received from the government. Growing up in Oklahoma, I've been fortunate enough to know many native people, and one of my best friends is Choctaw. The shit that even he has had to deal with in the modern day is nothing short of disgusting, and shameful. I have nothing but love, and solidarity with native Americans fighting for equity, and justice for what has been done to them for generations.

  • @hostilesavage4299

    @hostilesavage4299

    Жыл бұрын

    "not a great history that should be explored more"... is the very reason that native american history SHOULD be STUDIED and TAUGHT in schools... we still want our land back...

  • @x_HuLiMaKaFLip_x
    @x_HuLiMaKaFLip_x2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve watched several of your RDR2 videos, and this video here is by far my favorite one. Thank you for making this. My prayers go out to all the Native American children who were forcibly taken away from their families and sent to the boarding schools throughout America and Canada. May the souls of these children find peace. 🙏🏽

  • @totallynotalpharius2283

    @totallynotalpharius2283

    Жыл бұрын

    Those churches burning won’t bring the dead back. But it does fell good watching them burn

  • @deckieonlamons8834
    @deckieonlamons88342 жыл бұрын

    Yo Fizhy. Your promptness, thoroughness and overall ability to elucidate is why I keep coming back. I hope you're proud of everything you've accomplished with the channel. I'm proud of you, bro. Be safe and stay well. Cheers from South Florida 😎

  • @Artisticmonkey2
    @Artisticmonkey22 жыл бұрын

    Honestly his is the best mission in the entire game. The chief’s speech trying to stop his son is just so devastating. I’m glad we got to see even a sliver of their struggle, I wish there was more storylines for more tribes of the area

  • @OldQueer
    @OldQueer Жыл бұрын

    There's a book by Joseph M Marshall called The Journey of Crazy Horse: A Lakota History. It discusses the Lakota people from a first hand perspective. Lots of the RDR2 storyline seems to borrow parts from Crazy Horse's story. I listened to it as an audiobook and it had a marked effect on my life. Well worth checking out.

  • @Lampebruder

    @Lampebruder

    Жыл бұрын

    Or Tecumseh-custards last stand

  • @twinzzlers

    @twinzzlers

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@Hannah Stahl Yeah wasn't Custard in charge of that batt le? Tecumseh would probably have lost hard if it was someone competent

  • @emilefragz1885
    @emilefragz1885 Жыл бұрын

    The greatest lesson we can take from this entire game is not to just keep apologizing for past sins and grouping all people as bad or good, it is to not repeat history and look at everything with discrepancy.

  • @ChibiPanda8888

    @ChibiPanda8888

    11 ай бұрын

    Very true. We must look ar history with wisdom and discernment. People aren't totally good or totally bad. Choices are made that impact either negatively or positively. We must look at history, learn from it, and try not to repeat the bad parts (even though we probably will).

  • @Hyper_Kong
    @Hyper_Kong2 жыл бұрын

    The whole segment of Chapter 6 with the Indians/Native Americans and Dutch manipulating them made him see how easy it is which plays further into it during RDR1.

  • @melodysketchdraws
    @melodysketchdraws Жыл бұрын

    "he saved my life, but gave his" "That doesn't surprise me one bit"

  • @adiabeticjedi3278
    @adiabeticjedi3278 Жыл бұрын

    That scene where the chief pleads with his son to not go off and die uselessly always brings a tear to me. Props to the actor who played the chief. I felt the sorrow, the desperation, and the desire behind those words.

  • @corypringleton8454
    @corypringleton84544 ай бұрын

    I always loved the line from Charles “we’re riding with you” after the rest of the gang goes with Dutch. It shows how much Charles respects Arthur

  • @daviejay
    @daviejay2 жыл бұрын

    Stuff actually happened to indigenous Americans. I've been on a few reservations when my father played in a band for social events. It was weird for me to be there as a kid I can't imagine what those other kids were thinking.

  • @reecenotryhs
    @reecenotryhs2 жыл бұрын

    Man, such a sad story. I completely forgot to check the newspapers in my most recent playthrough, so I appreciate you going through those here. Thanks for another thorough analysis/explanatory video!

  • @whatthebeardoin3160
    @whatthebeardoin31602 жыл бұрын

    The early conversation with Charles, where he talks about how in spite of Dutch's speeches, they are killers and thieves all the same. But what always confused me was, why is Charles part of it then? I know he doesn't want to be on his own anymore, but surely someone with as good a heart as his doesn't need to fall in with bandits.

  • @MrOgge50

    @MrOgge50

    2 жыл бұрын

    My theory would be that he found a family in the gang, Charles is mixed African American and Native American, basically at the time, the person with the least rights out of any people group in the US, he wouldn’t be welcome in society like others and that’s why he stuck with the gang, he may not enjoy the lifestyle but at least he is treated as good as any other member

  • @beavers1978

    @beavers1978

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrOgge50 I agree.

  • @WalkBesideMe

    @WalkBesideMe

    2 жыл бұрын

    He saw them as family. He was half black, half Native and resourceful and intelligent but that was during a time where people didn't like people of his skin color and he was DOA trying to live on his own. Most gangs it was people riding with each other but Dutch's gang cared for one another and they all respected Charles (except Micah obviously) and Arthur would end up being his best friend.

  • @flowersinawasteland

    @flowersinawasteland

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrOgge50 he also probably had a bounty on him at that point so it’s not like he could live a normal life that easily. He had 2 options: ride solo or ride with his newfound family and he chose the latter.

  • @nomad155

    @nomad155

    Жыл бұрын

    Charles doesn't deny his actions. He doesn't like when touted as a Robin Hood gang when they take what they want and kill whom they wish.

  • @popsab25
    @popsab252 жыл бұрын

    The part about the young being tired of the ineffective diplomatic way reminds me of Corsica and many other autonomist/independantist nations and movement currently who have settled down prove their projects to be very popular within their people and still get no kind of respect whatsoever

  • @NCR5.56
    @NCR5.56 Жыл бұрын

    As a native my self this was my favorite part of the game it was sad but it turned out good for them in the end love rdr2

  • @SourPatchPuss
    @SourPatchPuss2 жыл бұрын

    The first time I played RDR2 I didnt pay much attention to these parts of the story with the natives and the issues with the US Army because I thought it was boring and depressing. Having played through the game a few more times, I think these are some of the most important scenes and themes of the game. They really show that Arthur truly is a good person despite all the bad things he has done.

  • @juliojuarez4033
    @juliojuarez4033 Жыл бұрын

    I just have a feeling charles went to canada to join the wapiti tribe and officially become one of them eventually starting a family and doing what john could not and go to be a family man and probably rains fall in his death bed name him the new chief

  • @ChibiPanda8888

    @ChibiPanda8888

    11 ай бұрын

    That would be a great story idea

  • @dannywalker8002
    @dannywalker8002 Жыл бұрын

    For new people here, when he sends you in the camp. Do not attack or kill anyone. Sneak in, grab and run. They won't chase far at all. It's easy to do and worth.

  • @Jimmybrianmike

    @Jimmybrianmike

    Жыл бұрын

    What about the medicine wagon was there anyway to do it without killing the guards ?

  • @Edgemasterfr

    @Edgemasterfr

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@Jimmybrianmikejump to wagon then disarm both of them

  • @imlivingunderyourbed7845

    @imlivingunderyourbed7845

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@EdgemasterfrYou can just jump on the wagon and steal the vaccines. The guards won't notice at all.

  • @arxe_d3505
    @arxe_d35052 жыл бұрын

    That epic charge into Cornwall Kerosene and Tar is so underrated

  • @londonfog6654
    @londonfog6654 Жыл бұрын

    When Dutch found out Arthur was helping the Natives it made it clear in his mind that Arthur was the traitor. Crazy and when Arthur said in his dying words that Micah was the rat it just made him go silent. In his last moments Arthur kept saying he wasn't the rat. Dutch just couldn't face it how his son was really only trying to the gang before dying. I love this game 🍻

  • @soggybiscuit1063
    @soggybiscuit10632 жыл бұрын

    Rains fall and eagle flies were some of my favourite characters in the game, it's a shame they had such a tragic end because of Dutch

  • @lorenbeebe5141
    @lorenbeebe5141 Жыл бұрын

    I couldn’t help but notice with that letter found on the train in chapter 2, It seems that Cornwall only had the leyland development company do the first phase of diligence. At that point in the story Cornwall had not yet paid them to continue testing to see if there was indeed oil on the wapiti land. I wonder Cornwall was so consumed with greed that he outright failed to pay the leyland development company and started the events of chapter six despite there being no oil reserves to begin with.

  • @lorenbeebe5141

    @lorenbeebe5141

    Жыл бұрын

    I realise now that the train robbery was chapter 1…. Sorry

  • @ChibiPanda8888

    @ChibiPanda8888

    11 ай бұрын

    He probably was.

  • @MiketheEye
    @MiketheEye2 жыл бұрын

    Love your work. Watched this whole thing and just about fucking cried. A fictional story but it really humanizes the struggles of natives over the history of this nation. And on the heels of the Supreme Court now fucking with Tribal sovereignty over this bad abortion business, this shameful story continues even today.

  • @bertaboy9078

    @bertaboy9078

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great seque into the current thing

  • @ThatsShowbizBabyy

    @ThatsShowbizBabyy

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Supreme Court decision isn’t being talked about enough. God, it makes me so sad.

  • @celestialchronic3572

    @celestialchronic3572

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s getting worse for indigenous people. We’re seeing the possibility of ICWA- the Indian Child Welfare Act, which aims to preserve native families together after the United States government was separating, stealing, and trafficking our babies for decades because of the abortion business. RDR2 is the only game I’ve seen cover our struggles, and our plight as indigenous people of the US historically accurate, not feed into stereotypes, and show our history in truth, grace & for what it is- decades of struggle, assimilation & violence perpetrated against us.

  • @breezy6859

    @breezy6859

    22 күн бұрын

    @@celestialchronic3572you have it better than indigenous in Canada and Australia. Talk about your crooked government, DV and rapid drinking and drug use. The Native government can make everything better for you but they don’t

  • @sonofanarchy6254
    @sonofanarchy62542 жыл бұрын

    Charging into the oil fields was the most badass scene in this game.

  • @ryanfreebody6881
    @ryanfreebody6881 Жыл бұрын

    Very sad, but for those who don't know... when rain falls asks you to get the sacred item back, if you don't kill people he will gift you a dream catcher which is pretty cool.

  • @beccaf262
    @beccaf262 Жыл бұрын

    The actor who plays Rains Fall is just outstanding the anguish in his voice just breaks my heart. I get so irate listening to Dutch scheme right in front of everyone’s faces I despise him more than Micah in those moments.

  • @tallstar513
    @tallstar5136 ай бұрын

    Some of my favorite scenes are from the section of Rains Fall and Arthur going across the mountains. Seeing such beautiful scenery and hearing native flutes and instruments in the background is such a calming and peaceful moment, standing in dark contrast to the current situation.

  • @inquisitor9207
    @inquisitor92079 ай бұрын

    I love that Charles and Sadie stay with Arthur and the Native Americans when Dutch asks everyone else to come with him

  • @IvanIsYda_
    @IvanIsYda_2 жыл бұрын

    After this part of the story, I hated Dutch so much. I was so mad at him I didn’t return to the camp for 2 months worth of game time

  • @devinpaul9026

    @devinpaul9026

    2 жыл бұрын

    Boy, you sure showed HIS character model! 😂

  • @c.o7993

    @c.o7993

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@devinpaul9026 could have just played the first game and get him killed

  • @John-kd2tc

    @John-kd2tc

    2 жыл бұрын

    I shot him twice during the standoff as John.

  • @IvanIsYda_

    @IvanIsYda_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@devinpaul9026 look…😂i’m a petty mfer ok, even with fictional characters 😂

  • @IvanIsYda_

    @IvanIsYda_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@John-kd2tc 👀nice

  • @amiewhitley7231
    @amiewhitley72312 жыл бұрын

    I simply love your rdr2 coverage. Don't stop

  • @OneFreemanC17
    @OneFreemanC179 ай бұрын

    That ride down hill on the oilfield is positively one of the most badass moments in gaming.

  • @teresasalgado8352
    @teresasalgado83522 жыл бұрын

    I swear these video games have better stories then movies

  • @khalidalali186
    @khalidalali1869 ай бұрын

    I have a feeling that the “Flight of the Europeans” on both sides of the pond, has been happening slowly for the past 75 years, since 1948, and they’ll reach the same level of the “Wapiti” by 2075 or 2100, if they’re lucky.

  • @TOFKAS01

    @TOFKAS01

    9 ай бұрын

    Bullshit.

  • @CevicheGato

    @CevicheGato

    9 ай бұрын

    No. It’s not BS.

  • @TOFKAS01

    @TOFKAS01

    9 ай бұрын

    @@CevicheGato Its absolute Bullshit.

  • @meinhausbrennt1426
    @meinhausbrennt14262 жыл бұрын

    Started a new playthrough today because of your channel, hadn't really played the game since 2 years and even though it's my 4 playthrough since i got the game ,it feels new. But i started only to play again because your videos reminded me how great this game was and i love every minute of red dead, it's a throwback to a time where things were easier for me then know and godam i have missed these characters. To make it short thank you

  • @willrogers3793
    @willrogers3793 Жыл бұрын

    8:18 this line has always stuck with me, because Arthur basically just told that guy “I’ll beat the brains out of your skull if you don’t give me what I want”, but his calm tone and his phrasing somehow make him *more* intimidating than if he had just bluntly stated it. That cold-blooded malice doesn’t show up often (in a high honor play through at least), but every scene where Arthur lets that side of himself show is absolutely excellent.

  • @YaBoiYoda
    @YaBoiYoda Жыл бұрын

    Something I thought about that I'd like someone to double check me on real quick. A common theme for the gang being able to flip their scores, is that they are usually able to get ".50 cents on the dollar" meaning they get half of the original scores worth. When hosea tells Arthur the total money gotten from the bonds stolen in the first capture, where the letter from the oil company was detailing a 2k payment was needed, he said he managed to get 1k for them. That means that possibly the bonds were worth 2k, meaning it's highly possibly that train was headed to the oil company to give them payment for the phase 2. Does that mean the Van Der Linde gang might have accidentally stalled the exploration, and consequential inquisition of the wapiti land?

  • @sigsdeath
    @sigsdeath2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's still noteable that if you stay at the reservation for too long in the epilogue there will be natives that are hostile towards you

  • @D0nnyy

    @D0nnyy

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Reservation is empty in the epilogue

  • @sigsdeath

    @sigsdeath

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@D0nnyy Yes but if you stay too long there will be natives that will be hostile towards you. Also they might not be hostile, but I did kidnapp a lawman there so that could have something to do with them either spawning or being hostile. I don't know as I havn't redone this ever

  • @joseybryant7577
    @joseybryant75772 жыл бұрын

    Interesting that the game makes no mention of Wounded Knee or the Ghost Dance. 1890 was only nine years ago in game time.

  • @John-kd2tc

    @John-kd2tc

    2 жыл бұрын

    A lot of the game's history is fictional so such an event might have not transpired.

  • @John-kd2tc
    @John-kd2tc2 жыл бұрын

    I think you get a special reward if you get the sacred objects from the camp without harming the soldiers.

  • @cydude5856

    @cydude5856

    2 жыл бұрын

    if you sneak in and out without violence, you get a boost of honor and extra dialog where Rains Fall thanks you for your gentleness and reflects on how even violent men still have lives, and lives are all sacred.

  • @John-kd2tc

    @John-kd2tc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cydude5856 I remember getting a trinket or something.

  • @cydude5856

    @cydude5856

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@John-kd2tc oh yeah, I guess I never did it by killing the soldiers, so I thought that was for everyone.

  • @ANNEKE1999

    @ANNEKE1999

    2 жыл бұрын

    How do you get in and out without being noticed? I always had to kill them😅

  • @cydude5856

    @cydude5856

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ANNEKE1999 there actually isn't anyone patrolling the open entrance to the camp, so you can quickly maneuver your way through if you make sure to cover your back and watch their line of sights.

  • @unintelligent_strut3048
    @unintelligent_strut30482 жыл бұрын

    I know it's a bad time.. but the music at 45:00 is badass

  • @annavarian8946
    @annavarian89462 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I do love how you manage to approach the characters with a real humanising sense of empathy. Excellent work, mate :)

  • @pekinami7640
    @pekinami7640 Жыл бұрын

    It's sad to say that the natives in this game aren't too different at all compared to real life. They both suffered greatly and their populations diminished by greedy damn settlers taking what they want. This hits too close as I'm Navajo and my people suffered as much as the other tribes...

  • @lonewolfgamingplus379

    @lonewolfgamingplus379

    Жыл бұрын

    A'ho, I'm Navajo too. Yeah, Rains Fall reminded me a lot of my Nali Man. The amount of tears and anger.. I couldn't contain them.

  • @pugachevskobra5636
    @pugachevskobra56362 жыл бұрын

    Goddamn Fizhy; your content has always been good but it seems like you get better and better with every new video you drop, and judging by the number of videos you’ve dropped recently you’ve been working your ass off. And every video is concise and hella informative. Thanks again for your hard work and keep up the good shit dude.

  • @blueevermore
    @blueevermore2 жыл бұрын

    cant wait to listen to this one

  • @DoomerNavajo7
    @DoomerNavajo72 жыл бұрын

    The navajo....ayyy my ppl

  • @branchlineflyer7244
    @branchlineflyer72442 жыл бұрын

    That thumbnail is gorgeous

  • @tireins1072
    @tireins10722 жыл бұрын

    Awesome job, Fizhy, I’ll definitely be taking a look at your history channel! You have a very captivating voice.

  • @ZaleskasConundrum
    @ZaleskasConundrum2 жыл бұрын

    Strangely enough I was just wondering if you made a video on this. On point with your wonderful videos yet again Fizhy

  • @potorius7877
    @potorius78772 жыл бұрын

    one of your best videos imo, you're doing a great job!

  • @Wintertime74
    @Wintertime74 Жыл бұрын

    I just found your videos yesterday and I believe that your videos are very informative and helpfurl. Thank you!

  • @stevetackett581
    @stevetackett581 Жыл бұрын

    You’re videos are top notch, I’m a middle aged man that came back to video games because of Red Dead 2. It’s the most amazing masterpiece I’ve ever seen.

  • @LeonardsParka
    @LeonardsParka11 ай бұрын

    Unrelated but this moment 34:35 when Charles doesn’t have to hear Arthur say anything he just knows somethings wrong gets me. Because we start out the game with Arthur plainly stating “We ain’t never really talked, you and me.” And now they’re confidants in each other to this point it’s, it’s just a beautiful shot and animation.

  • @brandankankel5209
    @brandankankel5209 Жыл бұрын

    What an absolutely awesome video! I haven't gotten to this point in the game yet, but I am genuinely looking forward to it.

  • @DucksterIn_a_Truckster
    @DucksterIn_a_Truckster7 ай бұрын

    The thing that never made sense to me is now eagle flies managed to fire 2 shot with a single shot rifle in my last boy

  • @reaver1401
    @reaver14012 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna love this thanks fizhy

  • @mws3779
    @mws37792 жыл бұрын

    You have done another great job of analyzing a story from a great game.

  • @timmy_ig
    @timmy_ig2 жыл бұрын

    it’s my birthday and you had to drop this banger made my dad a lot better thanks man

  • @TheToiletClogger

    @TheToiletClogger

    Жыл бұрын

    I know im late, but happy bday bro

  • @timmy_ig

    @timmy_ig

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheToiletCloggerappreciate it my guy 🫡

  • @lesternastoga5013
    @lesternastoga501311 ай бұрын

    These long in depth videos from red dead are hands down my favorite content 🙌

  • @saintpatience8426
    @saintpatience84268 күн бұрын

    I’m super late to this but… As a Native American living on a reservation (Northern Arapaho), this really hits hard in a good way. The Red Dead series is one of my favorite games, and the Redemption saga made me love the Van Der Linde gang because they were outlaws in their time, not only in action but also in their views.

  • @x7nilestyle13
    @x7nilestyle132 жыл бұрын

    Them: Why do you detest the United States government? The US government: *Doing stuff like this and more and worse*

  • @cheefqueef6494

    @cheefqueef6494

    2 жыл бұрын

    China and North Korea did worse to their own than we to foreigners.

  • @x7nilestyle13

    @x7nilestyle13

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cheefqueef6494 that's like saying murderers are worse than rapists... so thanks for that

  • @jasont5636

    @jasont5636

    2 жыл бұрын

    no one asked

  • @x7nilestyle13

    @x7nilestyle13

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jasont5636 and no one asked for you to reply but here we are

  • @nopenope6034

    @nopenope6034

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jasont5636 you've already shown how worthless a point that is. I get the feeling worthless bullshit to make you feel better is all you ever say to anyone.

  • @johnnymac42069
    @johnnymac42069 Жыл бұрын

    I thoroughly enjoy your videos brother. Well narrated, explained and a pleasure to hear. Keep ‘em up

  • @xprodigyxgames3296
    @xprodigyxgames32968 ай бұрын

    It really speaks alot going through the natives story at the same time Arthur is realizing what life is really about. Top tier storytelling

  • @MicahBell_1860
    @MicahBell_1860 Жыл бұрын

    I was surprised at the length of this video when I clicked on it, but there definitely was a fair bit to cover. Well done

  • @ayoubmonno9662
    @ayoubmonno96622 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this great video, you're doing a monumental job.

  • @Malevolence460
    @Malevolence4607 ай бұрын

    Every single line of dialogue from Rains Fall makes me want to cry. Such a phenomenal delivery, definitely my favorite character from the game

  • @That_0ne_Dev
    @That_0ne_Dev Жыл бұрын

    26:21 - We must do it *discreetly* .... So anyway I started blastin

  • @breakingbenjamin555
    @breakingbenjamin555 Жыл бұрын

    These videos are great. Your voice makes this video seem like a documentary. Good job.

  • @sonofanarchy6254
    @sonofanarchy62542 жыл бұрын

    its gonna premier on my break at work hell yeah

  • @Lumoskor
    @Lumoskor9 ай бұрын

    I almost stopped playing at all during the mission with Dutch when he said he would throw the native Americans under the bus just to save his own pathetic ass. The entire Wapiti plotline was hard to play and made me angry and devastated that this is a reflection of reality, but I'm glad R* included it because people need to know just how fucked up it all is. Despite the fact I cried on two separate occasions, I have to say they were probably my favourite missions in the game.

  • @deepk7756
    @deepk7756 Жыл бұрын

    I love all of these videos man. great job

  • @C_Shanty1993
    @C_Shanty1993 Жыл бұрын

    About the killing of the bison: in real-life, there was a tribe of natives that held ownership of their land until there was no bison population left. I can’t remember the details, but I always thought this real life info made it into the game: if all the bison are dead, the natives have no right of ownership anymore so the americans can just take the land without any issues.

  • @lonewolfgamingplus379

    @lonewolfgamingplus379

    Жыл бұрын

    The Bison were the primary source of food, clothing, materials for medication and housing. The US Government wanted to starve the tribes of the Great Plains, for railroad companies and petty politicians, bills signed by President Abraham Lincoln which he signed the execution of thirty-eight Sioux warriors which is labed the "largest mass execution in US history" Yeah Lincoln did a lot of sh*tty thing to native people..

  • @nashzahm
    @nashzahmАй бұрын

    Rains Fall is probably one of my favorite characters in the game, his plight is one that only strong men can handle and he is brave knowing that fighting wont help his people.

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