The Cult of Chelonia, Re-Visited - Red Dead Redemption 2
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"TURTLE'S... you love turtles... I love em too... TURTLE'S" -Arthur Morgan
@Version0111
2 жыл бұрын
🤠 ❤️ 🐢
@javieresquella1899
4 ай бұрын
i love that line
@SirDankleberry
2 ай бұрын
It's like a low intelligence conversation option in Fallout.
@RandomPersonsURL
7 күн бұрын
“well thats dead in the water..” -jamie “with the turtles” -arthur
Jamie is a true MVP. The first time I was taking back to Mary I ran into a wagon and they started shooting...Jamie whipped out a gun and just laid them full of bullets.
@sapphiccharlotte1818
2 жыл бұрын
man always stays double strapped, what a chad
@tommytaylor2084
2 жыл бұрын
And the Lord said unto thy people "Thou shalt stayeth strapped, or thou shalt get clapped"
@tanyaflanagan8111
2 жыл бұрын
@Tommy Taylor That’s amazing, I want that quote framed lol
@ewanfarley
2 жыл бұрын
@@tommytaylor2084 amen, amen
@zombi_slayerz06
2 жыл бұрын
@@sapphiccharlotte1818 he gave him back his gun after tho?
If you didn't hesitate before jumping after them, John will actually scream "ahhhhhhh Cheloniaaaaa!!!"
@thenexus8384
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't Arthur do the same thing
@rojax_thevoicetm2385
Жыл бұрын
@@thenexus8384 can Arthur even see them doing this, pre-time skip?
@thenexus8384
Жыл бұрын
@@rojax_thevoicetm2385 if John can than most likely
@mapleflag6518
Жыл бұрын
@@thenexus8384 I take it you haven’t played up to the epilogue yet.
@zackfair1868
Жыл бұрын
@@rojax_thevoicetm2385 no arthur cannot see this event to jump and shout chelonia.
Arthur becomes so adorable when he says he loves turtles
@user-vl2mr8mr5u
2 жыл бұрын
I love how he says it right when I read this👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@hailarwotanaz5848
2 жыл бұрын
Tuddle 🐢
@user-mu8dm4rk7g
Жыл бұрын
HUH AUUUUGGGH 🐢
@cg_bones
Жыл бұрын
Commit war crimes no balls🐢
@Pangloss6413
Жыл бұрын
@@cg_bones shoulda seen me in Serbia in the 90s boi
No one gonna talk about how Arthur said "yea turtles!" And there was an Awkward tension between him and the Chelonian group.
@neoxastro2407
Жыл бұрын
The hand motion he did fucking killed me 🤣
@acewxllyt6171
Жыл бұрын
Ikr lol
@jordanflores6174
Жыл бұрын
@@neoxastro2407 turtles ✊😅✊
@thevvraith
Жыл бұрын
Also felt referential to the classic "i love turtles" video hahahahahahaha I'm dead
@BabyDigi
Жыл бұрын
It’s the way he put his hands up like “yea …turtles” that for me 😭😭😭
14:24 "Am I boring you?" "A little." Always charming, Arthur.
@Badookum
Жыл бұрын
oh god another freak
Jamie’s story with the cult seems to mirror Arthur’s relationship to Dutch’s gang. Probably intentional.
@jordanflores6174
Жыл бұрын
Jamie seems to be around the same age as Arthur would've been when he joined too. Impressionable kids getting swept up by con men
@80VAIN08
Жыл бұрын
That would explain dutches love for jumping off cliffs
@tankdogization
Жыл бұрын
No shit. They made Jamie look like how Arthur looked in those framed pictures when he first met up with Dutch and Hosea. It was definitely intentional.
@southernbrain691
10 ай бұрын
@@80VAIN08dutch was a chelonian in disguise all along,thats why he didnt shoot himself in rdr1
@iceluvndiva21
7 ай бұрын
@@southernbrain691 Yeah...Dutch just favored horses to turtles.
The chapter 2 mission really just gives you the nugget of the Van de Linde gang being a cult. Only "he's chosen a path" is replaced "I've got a god damn plan". Really, once you've played it, you can see how Rockstar was telling Arthur and the player the whole time what he was really trapped in the whole time.
@elderliddle2733
2 жыл бұрын
Yup. If you read the bits of Dutch’s book by Evelyn Miller and do the missions with him, you find Miller is a man who was born into wealth and has a chip on his shoulder. He complains whenever things don’t go his way and attacks people he thinks are bad. We had no reason to attack the “poachers” during his missions other than Miller not liking them. He’s basically an American Karl Marx. Dutch is fascinated with Miller because he recognizes a means to control things he doesn’t like.
@optymalna8699
2 жыл бұрын
@@elderliddle2733 pulled karl marx out of your ass
@boobiedefloop6097
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@fatman1288
2 жыл бұрын
Arthur should of left with Mary but he's too loyal
@crazybread5511
2 жыл бұрын
@@elderliddle2733 Anti communist propaganda in the comments for a Fizhy vid?! Ftfy. The entire world can't be 4chan. Can an old troll just watch Fizhy in peace? Your way out of line here buster.
John was supposed to say "Chelonia" as he feel to his death during the encounter, you can look it up.
@guu3528
2 жыл бұрын
I think he had to be running, but yeah, he says it too. I expected it.
@adamware2103
2 жыл бұрын
@@guu3528 True
@shawnwebb4594
2 жыл бұрын
I was harribly disappointed that he didn't
@vinny1883
Жыл бұрын
I love the implication that he's so stupid he immediately bought into Chelonianism.
@megakillerx
Жыл бұрын
I think it’s because he fell off instead of manually jumping off that it didn’t trigger.
Hearing Arthur's voice break as he told Jamie to put the gun down thinking he was about to have to kill him is so sad
@reedog1811
Жыл бұрын
Bro that’s not what he was trying to do
@Themunnyman
Жыл бұрын
@@reedog1811 he meant that Jamie had a gun and Arthur thought Jamie was gonna try to shoot Arthur so Arthur was gonna have to shoot Jamie
@reedog1811
Жыл бұрын
@@Themunnyman no if you play the game yku see him also Am the gun at him self he was sad/scare cus he didn’t want him to kill him slef
@haka-katyt7439
Жыл бұрын
@Santa yet until that happened Arthur would realistically not know if Jamie is going to shoot him or himself, after all you can see Jamie's hand shake heavily making it hard to see what Jamie will do with the Cattleman.
@maestrovon_r5108
10 ай бұрын
@@Themunnyman I think it's more that Arthur saw Jamie holding the revolver and not knowing what Jamie was gonna do. So he started briefly worrying, because he sees Jamie as a young man with a quite sporadic mind, so naturally he'd worry that anything he tries to do with that revolver could hurt him or worse.
"Visiting this house proves Arthur has a greater drawing ability than John." Important to know.
If you replace Chelonia with Tahiti and made it a bit less flowery and more coherent, it does sound a bit like Dutch. The core ideas are there.
I’m shocked that there are such a volume of hidden points that I never saw like going to the wrong room during a mission and finding a Chelonian?! That’s nuts
Always hyped whenever I see a new RDR2 video from you. This game (Story) has set a new standard of what an open world game should be.
@ScottyDoesntKnow69
2 жыл бұрын
I Like Turtles.
@barebonesjones
2 жыл бұрын
@@ScottyDoesntKnow69 turdles
@tiddy671
2 жыл бұрын
“new”
@MarcusCollins69
2 жыл бұрын
I just hope gta 6 isn't *too* realistic
@lillemon1873
2 жыл бұрын
It’s sad you have to specify just story mode.
Ahhh I was hoping you’d run and jump, you can hear John shout “Chelonia!!!” It’s great XD
It’s funny how a lot of people seem to find safety in Arthur. Jaimie just wanted someone to fight for him. When he had a gun shot out of his hand by a man who could have killed him for the trouble or just watched him off himself, then immediately handle him with a well adjusted fathers patience. That was surprisingly deep.
you can actually find gold inside that hill home if you follow one of the hidden side quests that helps you find quite a few gold bars. maybe this suggests the leader was, even then, manipulating people for money? or that they were hoarding gold for the “new world” or something? dunno, but that’s how i found the hill home
@TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsCunt
2 жыл бұрын
You don't find gold there, you just find the next map on the quest and a random valuable to sell at the fence
@ChibiPanda8888
Жыл бұрын
....hidden side quests? How did you find out about them?
@Dwynmal
Жыл бұрын
@@ChibiPanda8888 It’s a treasure map
@Dwynmal
Жыл бұрын
@@ChibiPanda8888 Search up Landmark of the riches rdr2
I just played the Jamie mission a few minutes ago and selected different conversations this time. When Arthur double fist pumped the air and with sarcastic enthusiasm said, "turtles!" I about split my gut laughing.
I wonder if the Chelonean cult's obsession with Turtles is a reference to "Turtle Island", an older Native American belief about North America being a landmass situated on the back of a giant turtle? It certainly seems to be the case, given Cheloneans place great emphasis on North America being special. This could be a case of Native beliefs being twisted by people from another culture, possibly by a cult leader looking to take advantage of people who wish for a more mystical belief system than Christianity.
@BellaVita1890
Жыл бұрын
Except Christianity is extremely mystical. Read the "old testament" sometime. It's just a mythology like any other.
@cybercatgaming6052
Жыл бұрын
Christianity is nothing but myths lmao
@stuglife5514
Жыл бұрын
@@BellaVita1890 Old Testament is an actual trip (and revelations, revolutions reads like a reallllly fought acid trip)
@operleutnant7235
Жыл бұрын
@@cybercatgaming6052 kzread.info/dash/bejne/hnisypmkg8S_n7w.html
@jakeboehm5267
Жыл бұрын
@@stuglife5514I believe it’s more tied into DMT. The burning bush is an acacia. That plant is very high in DMT. Lsd wasn’t invented until a couple thousand years later
I love the mix of seriousness and every now and then, a bit of humour. The quick cut after Arthur falls off his horse.
if you jump with them as john (faster than you did) john says “uh…chelonia”
Here is an interesting fact, that some birds of prey when they kill their prey, whether it be a turtle or something else, they will drop it from a great height to kill it, sure if a turtle was dropped from a great height, its shell would be cracked, allowing the predator to open it & devour it... Might put some perspective as to why the Chelonians jumped off the cliff to break their own shell, which also leads to their actual death
Great video as always. Btw fun fact "Cheolna" actually means turtle in Greek.
@swampman543211
Жыл бұрын
Modern greek or ancient greek
@lunabork5909
Жыл бұрын
Modern
@anestisparastatidis3714
Жыл бұрын
*Chelona
This madlad really sat and grinded out all all the gold metals for the missions... Even I ain't crazy enough to do that, and I have the game platinum! Well done my friend
The way Arthur fell off his horse at 13:17🤣🤣🤣
This game has really made it hard for me to enjoy other open world games... the graphics, gameplay and interactions with NPC’s are unmatched
@wiwysova
Жыл бұрын
Gameplay? It's a glorified rail shooter with pretty looting animations. NPC interaction? "Greet" or "Antagonize". Graphics are great tho.
@wittafa
Жыл бұрын
@@wiwysova like I said unmatched
@steele_heart77
Жыл бұрын
@@wiwysova L
@wiwysova
Жыл бұрын
@@steele_heart77 N
@skulduggerybob1938
Жыл бұрын
@wiwysova have to disagree with ya but to each there own. The world is so well made, packed full of secrets and things to do. Plus greeting or antagonising is still more interaction with every npc than most games allow you (shoot or ignore) but if you don't enjoy it fair on you.
Are you always this antagonistic sir? Low-honor Arthur:You wanna find out?
GOD, it'd be so creepy if in playthroughs where Mary's little brother died, he "respawned" as an npc cult member/one of them for John Marston!
Can you do a re-visited video about Josia Trelawny? It's hard to find good videos about him and what happens to him after the main story
@Rav3nnn
2 жыл бұрын
He's a con man and not really a known member of the gang. He peaceful left and got back to his family in Saint Denis.
@JammyGit
2 жыл бұрын
I've been back to Trelawny's house in Saint Denis during the epilogue, and he's not there anymore. During the main story Arthur would rattle his door and say 'Trelawny? You in there?' or something like that, but John doesn't do anything. I know this because I'm on the epilogue and went to Saint Denis as John just to see if I could trigger something with Trelawny but nothing happened, so I'd say that Trelawny doesn't live in the area after the main story 👍
@calliecalamity8787
2 жыл бұрын
@@JammyGit I'm not sure about that. As there's an event where Trelawney asks Arthur not to mention his family after he visits his house, so where he lives is a secret from the gang, John wouldn't check if Trelawney lives there as he doesn't know he lives There. Trelawney not answering Arthur might indicate his family leaves after he leaves the gang so no one can find him, might. But I don't know.
@chineseobama6043
2 жыл бұрын
@@JammyGit you can have the same encounter as John at his house if you don't as Arthur
@JammyGit
2 жыл бұрын
@@chineseobama6043 I don't know if that's true or not, but I'm just going on my current play through as of a couple of days ago. If the previous comment is correct then I can't see that John would experience the same thing as Arthur if he didn't go to Trelawny's house. It doesn't make sense. Did you do this in the epilogue yourself?
Last time I saw Anders I made sure he reached Chelonia…😂
*pokes a turtle with a stick* I guess you could make a religion out of this
“Would you throw your wife off a cliff? No? Well, we can fix that!”
FIHZY KEEPS COMIN THRU WITH THESE BANGERS
It always annoys me in this game-- most of the campfires look ridiculously small and weak, and most of the characters are sittin' like a full on foot and a half back from the damn thing!
@user-vi3mj1gm6w
8 ай бұрын
Ii
Honestly the entire cult is honestly hilarious
@goatcar4599
2 жыл бұрын
lmao I cant see how people take this shit serious. Like how do you not break down laughing when your talking about a suicidal turtle cult
@samsizer2919
2 жыл бұрын
literally honestly, honestly literally
@PotentSenzu
Жыл бұрын
@@samsizer2919 honestly tho
@protisteos9778
Жыл бұрын
non facetiously, they fill me with glee
@shawnbergmann2638
6 ай бұрын
Most are
"Great teachings of our Master ... And Preparation for the Great Journey" im getting Halo PTSD here..
@TheVoidOfHalo
2 ай бұрын
I fuckin love you (no homo)
4:22 | "What do I dream about? What do I love?" "Uhh...." "Turtles! Yeah, turtles, I mean- yeah, turtles..." 4:39 | "T U R T L E S !"
If you run off the cliff with john. He will scream celonia too
i feel really bad but when i first played this i started laughing when he was pointing the gun at himself
I gotta admit, this is by far the best channel I've found about RDR2. The detail is incridible! So that sort of a double handshake I suppose, 1 to you and 1 to the developers for making such an indepth story. The casual player could easily brush over these things, but the persistent player such as yourself can uncover a treasure trove of hidden secrets. Which is why I believe RDR2 is an absolute masterpiece of gaming. and we're priveledged to have you making videos about it. Keep it coming! you're doing a fantastic job! 😀
@RichardHunke
10 ай бұрын
This channel and the Strange Man Channel has some great content and explore the variety of random or established events.
the shell of safety scoot they do always makes me chuckle
You should do a video on the Grays, Braithwaites, and Brontes gang.
@M3TA763AR5071D
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, please!!! They're still a a gang
North America is called the turtle continent by various Native Americans
It has occurred to me that bullshit of safety and then jumping off the cliff's edge is metaphorically similar to Dutch's proclamations and his downfall.
- I love how he runs right away, just knows there is no reasoning with you and no matter what if he lets you close, you are taking him home no discussion. totally shows he for sure knows and understands you, and gets that running is his best hope.
Arthur: you’d fall for that? Jamie: yes, quite literally
@xx-footcmpsf.c3693
Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on the n word
What’s cool is that if you jump off the cliff as John along with the rest of the chelonians, John actually will yell “CHELONIAAA” as he falls, the same as the other members
I remember as a kid I used to hate reading in game notes but over the last 10 years since graphics have improved and everything looks amazing i find myself searching for notes in every nook and cranny in RDR2 and every other game now days. I love written lore now days I find it festinating
I thought that Chelonia spokesman in the park was gonna try to sell us a spot in a Vault Tec vault. “A better future: …VAULT TEC.” 😂
The Pamphlet sounds like it is written with prediction words from a smartphone keyboard and later on adjusted, edited and modified by the dev team in places where necessary.
I mean... blue and white robes is clearly a reference to the cult from GTA, right? Same as the time travel stranger.
What did I learn from this video? Arthur loves turtles.
Whenever Fizhy uploads a new video I always form a shell of safety to truly enjoy it
When Arthur talks to Jamie and tells him to put the gun down, you can hear he truly cares about him
i havent seen anyone else comment on it but i like how one of the "do you get scared when you see a _" is "cripple" saw a guy with a limp and got scared saw a lady in a wheelchair and pissed my pants immediately
Twist ending: the most faithful of the cult are reincarnated as teenage mutant ninja turtles after they jump off the cliff....the rest are reincarnated as candy company executives and created the turtles brand of chocolates
When I jumped as John he yelled "Chelonia!" I respawned down the road with full cores and full health lol
If you jump with them as John he will also yell chelinia.
Don’t think they worship turtles outright. If you know about certain “old” religious practices. You’ll find that “magic squares” exist as powerful symbols/tools for certain peoples. Turtles naturally display a “magic square” on their back/shell pattern. It’s considered powerful and a conduit of sorts. See ancient Asian practices that believe in dropping coins in empty turtle shells to promote financial luck, they’re also common throughout the Middle East in Islamic, Christian and Jewish traditions. Interesting stuff. Look it up
I have a couple of theories that maybe you guys wanna tinker with after endlessly searching for what I think is a way to unlock another secret about the chelonians. Firstly if you inspect the corpses of the fallen chelonians the one in the turtle shell is labeled master and one of the others is labeled chelonian while the rest just say stranger which makes me wonder if there’s a significance to those two bodies. You can carry both corpses on your horse with no bounty or reports of any kind from anyone who sees you carrying them around (I’d recommend bringing a spare horse to carry both bodies). I’ve tried taking them to the hill home hoping to unlock something but after hearing you read the pamphlet I noticed the passage about evil women and birds of prey and there’s a witches cauldron which you can drink from only one time. The cabin is full of herbivore bait and you can use that to lure rams nearby into the tent and use the lasso to sacrifice them rather than shoot them if you wear cover scent. I think a mask may be required. Also we have two bodies and two known UFOs which we all know must mean there’s a third. Inn wondering if taking one body to one location as an offering or something may unlock another ufo or possibly taking the master to the cauldron and drinking the brew may unlock something. Has anyone tried or noticed any of this stuff? The pamphlet also talks about swimming during the wrong moon and there’s a pond outside one of the UFO locations as well as mentioning the frozen north which is where the second UFO can be found. I think it’s worth tinkering with but the chances of one person figuring out the exact variables to unlock something is slim. We’d need a lot of people trying different things like masks or perhaps bringing an alligator snapping turtle to the chelonians to see if that might do something? What do you think?
Every rdr2 video you make is always a banger 🙌🏼🙌🏼
OMG YES still can't believe so.many re-visits (coincidentally after I asked in stream, fizhy read it and I almost passed out lmfao)
@StrayKisswHobyStrayKids
2 жыл бұрын
I legitimately shrieked upon the notification hahaha
The music in this mission is beautiful
"i really hope that youve enjoyed" man i dont think ive ever finished a fizhy video and thought, "man that was awful" or even "meh", always satisfied
12:11 they gave them everything they had and followed them off a cliff? sounds like arthurs death "i gave you everything i had" before he launches into heaven off that cliff.
Legend Fizhy, keep the vids coming! Enjoying the playthrough of LA Noire too
just woke up to another gem of a video, thanks Fizhy!
13:17 best way to arrive at any place
Just four turtle bois and their big eared, rat face master.
I'm way behind the times, but I'm really enjoying these videos. Been listening to them at work for a couple weeks now.
Fiz never disappoints his videos. #GoTurtles
@thenexus8384
Жыл бұрын
#GoTurtles is the best #
It was mighty nice of you to send that feller to Chelonia at the end.
These videos are in depth. You do a great job thank you.
3 playthroughs and I've never see the dude by the fire. Unreal
@landomcbride2373
2 жыл бұрын
Hardly. Your grasp of reality must be pretty tenuous
Anyone notice anders looks like kernal sanders when arthur meets him but the strange man when john meets him maybe symbolizing arthur is the good and john is the evil since they where technically brothers
i like how this game demonstrates that cheloniasm, lemoyne raiders, the van der linde gang, they are all the same, groups of people, lying to themselves about their purpose.
*kills crazy cultists “Hmm I wonder if there was something to this whole turtle shell theory…” *proceeds to ignite Molotov for good measure
Watched a few of ya videos about RDR1/2 and you made me redownload and redo the RDR2's story again. lmao now I wana see all this shit i haven't seen yet and i got a new hype again. And for that ty Fizhy!
Top tier content as usual!
Arthur and the gang has no right to make fun of chelonians. He’s just as deluded and lost as they are.
@carven_chr9715
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
Thank you! I loved the end of the video! 😄😄😄
You're the best, Fizhy! Deep dives into all the nooks & crannies in RDR2 with great humour in both the dialogue & those little touches of your own style of game play.
Was hoping to hear John yell “CHELONIA!” ✊🏾 turtles!
@mapleflag6518
2 жыл бұрын
He does if you jump with them
I never knew Chelonia was so useful 🤣 great video Fizhy!
I find it funny the connection between the cholines and the van der Lin gang at the end
A cult can also be ideological. Not strictly religious. Want an example? Twitter
@Fizhy
2 жыл бұрын
ah yes, twatter
@LulJim
2 жыл бұрын
@@Fizhy as soon as I saw you had a twitter I un-watched all your videos
@pizzamozzarella2786
2 жыл бұрын
@@LulJim I doubt he cares
@LulJim
2 жыл бұрын
@@pizzamozzarella2786 damn bruh ain’t no way you missed that dumbass joke
That bit in the pamphlet talking about the old people dying and unburdening their families and then the chelonians jumping off the cliff reminds me of the ettestupe from Norse history
Love your videos. Very entertaining
The blue robes are kind of a baby blue...just like the Epsilon uniform
The ending had me laughing quite hard. Thank you for that.
Love how you did a Silent Hill 4 style intro changing from title to moonlight
Main man for red dead content love it
im amazed after all the hours i put into this game, all the analysis videos, all the reddit posts, and there's still something i never knew existed. i've never seen that Chelonian guy in the Valentine's hotel before. what a remarkable game.
That first part where you rode up on your horse and fell in the mud was hilarious
It sounds like whoever wrote that pamphlet needed a new wife.
Bruh I'm addicted to these vids 😭😭😭
I like the music when you first meet then up the mountain
Yo love your videos fizhy
Eyyy this game is too good And thank you Fhizy for your video's
4:28 I love all of this so much and I'm so upset that I'd never seen this until today