Dutch disgusted by the fact O'Driscolls turned Sadie into a widow, but by the end was willing to make Jack an orphan.

@BigPat6521

Жыл бұрын

When they become an enemy in his eyes he'll kill them without hesitation.

@danmace6456

Жыл бұрын

I think it was ment to show how much he changed

@loves2smooch384

Жыл бұрын

He did the same in the blackwater heist

@loves2smooch384

Жыл бұрын

@@CrungleFunk RDR3 we will find out the truth , I believe he was a good man until Anabel was killed that's when he lost his mind

@loves2smooch384

Жыл бұрын

@@CrungleFunk nah the RDR3 prequel is going to be the best game of them all it's the start and high point of the gang

In regards to how Kieran disappeared, if you wait a LONG time at the party when Jack is rescued, Kieran will initially refrain from joining in saying he doesn't want to get in the way. Later, he will start drinking and tell Arthur how much he appreciates the gang taking him in. He will then wander off into the woods and pass out drunk. Presumably this is where he gets grabbed, meaning the O'Driscolls already knew where the gang was, which isn't surprising given how unstealthy they were and the Pinkertons tracked them down multiple times. Gives me some relief that Kieran didn't intentionally sell out the gang.

@chrishilton3626

2 жыл бұрын

And how do you know this every time I’ve ever seen him he goes to sleep on the floor in shady bell. Secondly they tortured him so I’m pretty sure he did sell them out just to get them to stop torturing him And when they got what they wanted they killed him by taking his eyes out and chopping off his head

@francismartial6427

2 жыл бұрын

At said party you can actually hear him shouting in the distance you can find clips on KZread of this

@krokodil7057

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrishilton3626 there is literally zero evidence that he sold the van der linde gang out at any point. the lemoyne raiders knew who took over shady belle, so did the pinkertons. kieran rarely left the camp so we can assume he probably got picked up around shady belle so if by some insane set of circumstances the o'driscolls didn't know where the van der linde gang was they definitely knew just by being in the area they took kieran from

@BG-iu1mv

2 жыл бұрын

@@krokodil7057 that's right everyone knew where they were. But given the extent of torture the O'Driscolls inflicted on Kieran, I always assumed he finally cracked & gave them up. Everyone would under those circumstances

@theoutsiderjess4869

2 жыл бұрын

@B G personally I didn't think about it I felt bad about Keiran and wanted to wreck all the O'Driscolls there. But after i always assumed that the Gamg was just loud because after all if the Pinkertons could easily find them then so could the O'Driscolls

The absolute fear in Colms eyes when Arthur salutes make me happy

@GrizzTheShaman

2 жыл бұрын

Add on it the pure terror the VA was able to display without saying a word you could HEAR the terror in his breathing now that is fucking incredible

@victorjc5229

Жыл бұрын

@@GrizzTheShaman I wouldn't say Voice Actor, as they also do the motion capture, literally acting and voicing the character

@elisarosales-solis5999

Жыл бұрын

The only thing that made me happy during that chapter.. everything else made me depressed.

@elisarosales-solis5999

Жыл бұрын

@@victorjc5229 We have to give credit to all parties involved for making such an incredible experience.

@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134

Жыл бұрын

Me to fam 🔥🔥

If you go fishing with Javier in Chapter 3, Arthur mentions that the gang refrains from robbing a stagecoach in Nevada, realizing that the passengers are mostly women and children, but the very next day, the O'Driscolls end up massacring that very same stagecoach.

@adamjohnson672

2 жыл бұрын

wanted to also add that last guy killed has a "Letter to Tom from Colm" on him that can be looted. Other than that I think all the points were hit pretty well.

@jare2067

2 жыл бұрын

literally just had that interaction w javier earlier lol

@alexm.h.8270

2 жыл бұрын

just got fishing with Javier to, Arthur telling Javier that Colm and Dutch where sort of friends and having a dispute over living ideas of Dutch. After that Dutch leave.

@captaincrunch6113

2 жыл бұрын

@@jare2067 same

@elisarosales-solis5999

Жыл бұрын

@@adamjohnson672 Do you remember what the letter could have said?

Micah's reaction to discovering Jake's body, and telling Arthur what he's found, and actually calling Arthur by his first name almost makes him seem human for a bit.

@lowlylad3457

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly was just about to comment that lol. The way he pulls away from it in disgust/fear and the scared tone in his voice. Also the fact he senses that the same thing may happen to Dutch and he immediately pulls out his revolvers to defend Dutch makes me thing he truly did admire Dutch and care for the gang. Maybe although he isn’t a great person (he is racist and sexist) he may have just been like John in rdr1; forced to betray his gang (although the gang had already betrayed John and the government would kill John and his family if he didn’t co-operate. Micah truly is a fascinating character

@Assassino275

2 жыл бұрын

@@lowlylad3457 I think they changed direction midway through development. First half of the game Micah was crazy but he didn't seem like a rat/traitor

@traveller400

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it seems like a fault on the developer's part, just to make the player not see all the writing on the wall from the very beginning.

@joaogomes9405

2 жыл бұрын

It's possible Micah wasn't a traitor at that point. He could have turned some time around chapter 2 after Strawberry, probably because he was approached by the Pinkertons the same way Arthur was. Micah was one of the few members out there and away from camp at that point, besides Arthur. Early on in chapter 2 he seems a lot more interested in the Blackwater money than anything else, but after Strawberry and returning to the gang and Dutch, he forgets about it entirely and starts cosying up to Dutch more and more and trying to be in Dutch's ear. That would mean the ferry job, which we know was Micah's idea, wasn't a set-up but instead just a poorly planned robbery that went sour, which would be entirely possible since we know it was Micah who planned it and we know he's not great at planning robberies, both from the stage coach robbery Arthur does with him and the failed bank robbery he mentions.

@Jimbarleyy

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah same with the stagecoach robbery, he actually tells Arthur to take cover and asks if he is ok.

Fun fact if you spare that O'Driscolls who jumps on you in the stables he'll be at the next shootout and has custom dialogue like "you should've killed me when you had the chance"

@max_vtv

7 ай бұрын

Woah blew me my mind

@LisaAnn777

5 ай бұрын

What?! Where is that at?

@juaquintiscareno

5 ай бұрын

@@LisaAnn777he’s the one the most right under the shed closet to Arthur

@carsonbrown5366

2 ай бұрын

@@max_vtvand we blew his

Dutch really did become Colm. Look at his gang in rdr1. It's an army, just like the O'Driscolls. Dutch clearly only cared about numbers at that point

@simsdiver5201

2 жыл бұрын

Nah. Happened well before that when he abandoned the non fighter gang members like Abigail. And attempted to abandon once close/trusted fighters like John & Arthur. Then took in Cleet & Joe Micah's buddies without vetting either of them. Dutch didn't show any mourning over Susan Grimshaw's death later on, despite her once being fiercely loyal to him and his gf before Molly. Dutch didn't say a damned thing about Molly's death either. The male chauvinistic part of his nature wouldn't permit him. His psychopath behavior became second nature by the time he murdered that old woman on Guarma. TBH Dutch's rapid descent transforming into a psychopath really began with Hosea's death. After that, Micah worked on him until he had Dutch convinced at that point their gang had way too many mouths to feed. The rest is history.

@thexylophone

2 жыл бұрын

@@simsdiver5201 Nah Dutch was always a physcopath tbh

@dutchvanderlinde5004

2 жыл бұрын

The Natives fought well for my dream.

@Super_Broly

2 жыл бұрын

@@simsdiver5201 Dutch shot an innocent woman on the Blackwater Ferry before the events of RDR2, he was on the crazy train long before Hosea is killed.

@michaelbell1070

2 жыл бұрын

@@dutchvanderlinde5004 Yes they did.

There is some hidden dialogue during the attack on Shady Belle you missed that is quite useful: If, after retreating into the mansion, you do not immediately walk to defend the other side of the house, you go where John is standing, John can be overheard mentioning that he suspects Kieran betrayed the gang to which Arthur replies something like "No way. Did you see what they did to him!".

@shinyentree225

2 жыл бұрын

Wonder if Arthur’s dialogue is different depending on honor

@kanyesouth1243

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinyentree225 Im pretty sure it is, But you can look it up to make sure.

@theoutsiderjess4869

2 жыл бұрын

@Shiny Entree yes his dialogue and tone is completely different since I played Arthur with high honor based on how he acted in the first mission. I always heard that dialogue with Arthur defending kieran. Which is why the thomas downes mission always felt so out of character to me

@americansheep4276

2 жыл бұрын

@@theoutsiderjess4869 Arthur is an outlaw out to make money for his gang. He doesn't feel right about debt collecting, but at the time he sees it as something for the good of the gang.

@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896

2 жыл бұрын

Well, if the o’driscolls picked him up after he wandered out into the forest after the party drunk, Then he probably told them.

Obviously Sadie wanted revenge for Jake, but you can only imagine what kind of hell they put her through those 3 days they held her captive, why they kept her alive in the first place. The game is very subtle about it, but it makes sense why she is so filled with rage to the point it’s suicidal.

@mariemorgan7759

Жыл бұрын

I think she talks about the treatment she received from the O Driscoll gang members. They probably raped her and kept her in the cellar those three days?To me, it would explain the hatred and why she dressed in men's clothing. I think Sadie was never going to be another helpless victim again, and was going to fight like a man to get her revenge on the O Driscolls.

@kaylastarr7863

Жыл бұрын

Especially at the mission when she says a particular guy is "hers" to kill off.

@John.McMillan

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Somehow alot of people miss that. There is only one reason she would still be alive and held in the cellar after 3 days of that many being there.

@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that sounded gruesome, I have no respect for that “R*pe” stuff it’s disgusting ⛔️⛔️⛔️⛔️.

@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134

Жыл бұрын

@@John.McMillan Right John & that’s why when I played RDR2 I helped Sadie to the very end ✅.

I love how every once and a while you can hear Arthur pronounce Colm “collum” on account of Rodger Clark being Irish

@blakecacini8016

Жыл бұрын

Maybe he's taking Sean's advice

@dirtyshinobii

Жыл бұрын

gollum

@TheTimbs_

Жыл бұрын

Comb O’Driscoll

@obamagaming69420

11 ай бұрын

Lenny O’Summers

@Model3140digitalalarmclock

6 ай бұрын

@@obamagaming69420found the edgy kid

I genuinely liked Kieran. He was kind, innocent and genuine. Almost like he just joined the O'Driscolls for a sense of company but knew better after a day or two. I was speechless and my jaw dropped when that horse came trotting down Shady Belle

@fakename2212

Жыл бұрын

I could be misremembering, but I think he says something about being pressed into the gang in the first place.

@brandisdreamland

Жыл бұрын

I was shocked when they killed Sean i knew something was going to happen Arthur kept complaining it didn’t feel right but when they shot sean i was like got damn!!!!! 😮😮😮😮

@Jimmothypiddler

10 ай бұрын

I always felt awful about how Arthur and the gang treated him, especially after he saved Arthur like cmon he’s a cool guy

@brandisdreamland

10 ай бұрын

@@Jimmothypiddler they didn’t trust him and we have to admit you have to earn it and coming from a gang they want to kill lol you can’t be mad at them🥴 at least they turned around and everyone liked him.. his death to me was weird i was like who the hell is that i kinda forgot about him i had to think about it hard and was like omg 😱

Kieran's death was so upsetting to me, I grew to love his character he was such a flighty anxious kind of guy but super sweet and friendly at the same time. O'Driscolls tortured the poor bastard something cruel before decapitating him.

@hadeskingoftheunderworld7010

Жыл бұрын

I just got to that part a bit ago, pissede right off when his body rode in

@brandisdreamland

Жыл бұрын

@@hadeskingoftheunderworld7010 😂 this game had me all the way fucked up.. they did an amazing job with the story but it will hurt your feelings and piss you off

Fun fact about Kieran his death is likely a reference to the real pope saint Denis who was decapitated. It was said he walked around for several minutes while he held his head.

@AwangKhairunnas

2 жыл бұрын

He walked around? Sheesh...

@theduckking5720

2 жыл бұрын

@@AwangKhairunnas yeah I know but in medieval times it wasn't uncommon for people to believe that popes did something strange when they died.

@doogsniffedcocaine

2 жыл бұрын

dude!

@grapefruitjuice9473

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a reference to the mythical headless horseman

@sergeantkreelTF99

2 жыл бұрын

@@AwangKhairunnas Yeah, you can live for a short time after a beheading if it’s done right, a French scientist tested this when a man was gonna be beheaded by the guillotine, when he was beheaded the guy made eye contact with the scientist after hearing his name and was responsive for 20 to 30 seconds after death.

Baby Arthur: Go-go Daddy Dutch: He's about to say his first word! Baby Arthur: *GODDAMN O'DRISCOLLS* Daddy Dutch: *YOU'RE RIGHT ORTHUR*

@ChrisMathers3501

2 жыл бұрын

Proud dad: Gangster shit, son. Here, have a revolver. Baby immediately accidentally shoots self in head, because, you know, baby. His badass little skullet deflects the round into a wall. Baby: Aaaaawwww, it's only a .38! Dad: When your nuts descend, and you prove to me that you can dig a trench, milk a cow, put in a fence, shovel shit, build a house, rob a train, paint the house, and distill moonshine strong enough to strip the paint off the house, THEN. Then you can have a real man's gun.

@jackob3103

2 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisMathers3501 💀

@SorryBroIDontPostAnymore

2 жыл бұрын

Arthur’s first words

@bekleedee

2 жыл бұрын

my daughter is 6 months old atm. I can see her saying something like that given how often I play rdr2 with her sitting with me 😅😅

@SorryBroIDontPostAnymore

2 жыл бұрын

@@bekleedee raise em young and raise em right

Pretty sure Sadie had a more uncomfortable experience than simple detention in the basement.

@dirtyshinobii

Жыл бұрын

Definitely

@ciyy4176

Жыл бұрын

sadly 🥺

@justanotheranimeprofilepic

7 ай бұрын

Heavily implied but not confirmed

@Valitorbjorn

5 ай бұрын

Yeah

@ZetsuboNoShima

5 ай бұрын

In Rdr1 they’d mention that act happening all the time, especially when dealing with bill williamsons gang, and they don’t shy away from the word

Arthur: "One more word and I'll break your bones" Kieran: "Ok, ok!" Arthur: "That's two bones, right there".

@victorcharles27

6 ай бұрын

Yes😅

“We’re bad men but we’re not them” Arthur is always honest

I liked Kieran. I always go get the lure to catch the legendary bluegill before I go fishing with him so he can see it.

@tz_saints

2 жыл бұрын

how do you get it

@tonyelgoatferguson809

2 жыл бұрын

He was a good kid

@queenfopsie5442

Жыл бұрын

@@tz_saints there's a lady in lagras that sells all the special lures

@SirRobertTheGreen

Жыл бұрын

Actually she doesn't sell them until you do the quest at the professional fisherman's house on the shore south of valentine

@jackharland2022

Жыл бұрын

Me too

5:13 I think it’s funny that the gang member said he was gonna “Break Arthur’s neck” and Arthur proceeded to just super punch him out of existence.

@thatoneguywiththevoice328

Жыл бұрын

He literally flew upwards like a Popeye skit

@cheefqueef6494

Жыл бұрын

lore accurate Arthur Morgan:

@ConnieRavenlight

9 ай бұрын

Dutch’s legs at 1:14:05 is just hilarious

@daikimizu9324

8 ай бұрын

@@thatoneguywiththevoice328 Bruh, Arthur became Popeye right at that moment, and without any spinach

@Jesus.saves0174

5 ай бұрын

5:35

Never noticed that, Dutch and Colm wear similar clothing. This truly does show that despite appearance, both are 2 sides of the same coin. This game's attention to detail is beyond amazing

@assassingamer5983

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly i like to think in the end dutch was worse then colm

@annetteadcock1848

2 жыл бұрын

@@assassingamer5983 yea, while colm is a bad man he at least dosent hide behind some 'cause' to justify his actions while dutch commits atrocities and always makes an excuse for them

@assassingamer5983

2 жыл бұрын

@@annetteadcock1848 dutch became worse in the end

@annetteadcock1848

2 жыл бұрын

@@assassingamer5983 sadly yes

@comandantethorn9929

2 жыл бұрын

@@assassingamer5983 Dutch became worse but its hard to say if he was ever better, his morals were all bullshit, in the end the only times when he restrained from something evil was because someone close to him called him out on it.

37:02 That's the most caring tone of voice I've ever heard Micah talk in.

@FlymanMS

2 жыл бұрын

Micah didn't seem too bad or dickish in the beginning.

@justinl4412

2 жыл бұрын

It's probably because he knows he needs Arthur's help to get him through the fight alive.

@skullsalt

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinl4412 lmao

@datingwiafusexclubdatingwiDOKI

6 ай бұрын

I absolutely love it the most caring voice that we’ve heard Micah talk you OK

@tabaki3099

4 ай бұрын

Mainly because Micah’s voice makes him always talks like he’s sarcastic 😂

I hope you end up doing one on the Laramie Boys they were always kinda unique and interesting to me due to the fact they’re a gang for hire

@payne267

2 жыл бұрын

Brotha!

@MaxMikescrool1

2 жыл бұрын

Mercs basically. Very interesting

@privateerbouncher9622

2 жыл бұрын

Guns for hire, just like your RDO posse

@masonb6768

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh but idk if there'd really be much lore on them considering what was said about them in the game, they only recently started getting a serious reputation and then lost a ton of men in one fight

@pineconebeaver2499

2 жыл бұрын

That would be a short vid cuz there isn't a lot of info on them

Calm’s execution scene is unforgettable. From a confident and spoiled criminal to a man realising it is his last moment in this world. First class story telling. My favourite game of all times.

Honestly I love rewatching Colm O'Driscolls Execution, for him to go from Cocky to panic after realizing he truly is going to die was amazing, bravo to Rockstar for the amazing Animation in that scene

After I started to really like Sadie in game I stopped wanting to just kill random guys cause my brain would always go "But what if they're married and you're making their wife sad?"

@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896

2 жыл бұрын

more Sadies

@assman3862

2 жыл бұрын

@@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896 and that's always a good thing

@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896

2 жыл бұрын

@@assman3862 more sadies means more dead jakies.

@Cryo_the_Proto

2 жыл бұрын

@@assman3862 not when your the Colm O'Driscoll of their story

@AR7271

2 жыл бұрын

My dog's name is Sadie.

Dutch calling them animals for making Sadie a widow, when he has no problem gunning down who knows how many married men just because they're police... the hypocrisy that is Dutch, am I right

@notsocrabby9961

2 жыл бұрын

The better example would be the old hag of Guarma and Hedi McCourt. With the police it's known as a difference of war. You see a soldier not an individual it's a state of psychosis that allows a soldier who has killed to say that he's never murdered. He's at war with The Marshals, The Pinkerton's, The Feds and the Police.

@chrishilton3626

2 жыл бұрын

@@notsocrabby9961 yep

@user-vh2pb7qx6b

2 жыл бұрын

Same with Arthur.

@chrishilton3626

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-vh2pb7qx6b at least the Van Der Linde gang were little bit better than the O’Driscolls with the exception of Micah Of course

@user-vh2pb7qx6b

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrishilton3626 Yeah you are right but Arthur is still a bit of a hypocrite like Dutch.

The mission where Micah and Arthur rob a coach is the most friendly moment between them. Makes me wish Micah wasn't a rat.

@DarvinostheGreat

2 жыл бұрын

OnlyPVPCat made a video on it theorizing about why Micah isn't a rat. It's worth watching, I believe him

@hummuscrow1401

Жыл бұрын

I genuinely liked Micah at first. If he wasn't the villain, I think he would still work as a character with a "bickering brothers" dynamic with Arthur.

@MyaB1986

Жыл бұрын

@@DarvinostheGreat he is wrong

@boybillythebutcher4575

8 ай бұрын

If Micah were exactly the same, but being a "good" character instead of the villain, he would be a way better character. At least, I'd like his characterization a lot more.

@boybillythebutcher4575

8 ай бұрын

@@hummuscrow1401 Absolutely agree

O'Driscoll: I'm gonna break your neck. Arthur: literally breaks O'Driscolls neck

I think the weirdest part of the O'Driscolls is that in Valentine, if your in a fight with them in front of a Townsperson they will become a witness for unarmed assault or murder. Maybe the O'Driscolls have a grasp on the town somehow.

@arthurwoah

2 жыл бұрын

That could be an interesting theory, but I think its just the games annoying law system.

@JMS849

2 жыл бұрын

@@arthurwoah like when you knock someone out and stomp them 3 times its ok no one cares. But 4 stomps u will instantly have 20 witnesses for murder

@phil7144

2 жыл бұрын

They do. You can witness a valentine deputy picking up or dropping off something to the back room of the doctors office wich is run by the odriscoll gang

@XcxrpseX

2 жыл бұрын

I think you have to click the intervene option if not then it seems they do have a grip on the town

@Sinn0100

Жыл бұрын

They definitely have their hooks in Valentine. The very first time I encountered the O'Driscolls not in a story mission was in Valentine. Two members of their gang were beating and robbing a man in broad daylight. Even with their victim screaming for help no one batted an eye or intervened on his behalf and the streets were crowded. That is until I got involved and once I beat both men down the sheriff came after me...for disturbing the peace.

Everytime i clear the camp of O'Driscoll, i hear from arthur. "IS THAT IT YOU BASTARDS. SH*T." all the time.

@antthomas7916

2 жыл бұрын

I also get, "So you call yourself O,'Driscolls? Shit". Or something to that effect.

@michaelmira-lopez1660

2 жыл бұрын

I think we're all just too good at mowing down O'Driscolls quickly, hardly even a threat to our boah Arthur

@bekleedee

2 жыл бұрын

sometimes I get him saying "you're a dumb old bunch."😊

@zyern2822

Жыл бұрын

No stories for you.

@SasukeUchiha-xy4vj

Жыл бұрын

Say your were o'driscrolls were ya?

The fact the O'Driscolls knew exactly where Arthur was during the sniping mission makes me think Micah was indeed a rat, but not for the Pinkertons. He was passing info along to the O'Driscolls. Then they, already in contact with the law, passed it to the Pinkertons.

@Aragorn1a1

2 жыл бұрын

you literally can see O'Driscolls watching them before they arrive they knew where Arthur was simply because they scouted ahead Dutch is dumb for not choosing where the meatting should happen

@idmd2610

Жыл бұрын

That was my initial thought on it. First thing he does is lead you to Adler ranch being held by O'Driscolls. Then he is imprisoned with an O'Driscoll he then kills I assume to keep him from telling on him. He still refuses to go home and then tries to lead Arthur into another O'Driscoll ambush after before finally returning only to further push dutch into colm further and further I figured he was working with the Pinkerton's to bring them both together and make it easier for the Pinkerton's to pick off or at least help colm weaken dutches gang by getting rid of Arthur so cool could get close enough to Dutch to take him and hand him over to the Pinkertons. I still have a hard time seeing what he gains helping colm but it made enough sense to me

@idmd2610

Жыл бұрын

Also I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure when in chapter one up in the snow Micah wears a green scarf and then again in the epilogue he is wearing a green shirt under his coat. Little thing but sticks out to me

@MrDandy241

Жыл бұрын

When arthur comes to lay down on the perch, some of the birds that were sitting there fly off. I believe that the o'driscolls saw this and put two and two together and figured out that someone must be up there.

@braize6279

Жыл бұрын

Except Micah wasn't the one who set up the meet. Pearson did. Micah didn't even know about it until it was brought up at camp, so this is wrong. Colm also knows all about Arthur and Dutch's gang. Obviously Arthur is going to be covering Dutch at the meet. I mean I could keep going on and on here. Dutch is sloppy af on top of it all, and Colm has the numbers. I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that Dutch and the gang was never out of Colm's sight at any time.

Arthur's wave on the roof when, Colm looks up there is one of the most satisfying things in this game. Or, maybe it's the absolute look of terror on Colom's face a split second after seeing, Mr. Morgan and coming to the conclusion that he's dunzo

@mutilatedpopsicles

Жыл бұрын

Colm and Micah, those two deaths made me feel really good, I was thrilled to unload a clip on micah

@Takaichi666-

Жыл бұрын

His wave I feel is a great smack to the face

I think when Dutch mentioned that they widowed Sadie and he called them animals even though he has probably widowed hundreds of women I think he meant them intentionally windowing her without it being necessary

1:14:05 Dutch when he's walking to the wagon, his legs all bug out

@justsomerandombirdwithinte5896

2 жыл бұрын

hes doing a traditional dance

"you've got yourself a gun, or what's left of one." Arthur's self awareness in the end of his life is so heartbreaking...

Over an hour long Fizhy’s got a set of bollocks on him unlike me

@lobaandrade7172

2 жыл бұрын

Unlike Kieran in chapter 2

@frankthefkintank

2 жыл бұрын

50% of it is him reciting the dialogue we just watched.

@CaseyAvalon

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankthefkintank I love Fizhy but yeah. Just a summary. Of stuff we already know. Thought itd be documentary style.

@zh2266

2 жыл бұрын

Yh i like this guy but I fast forward a LOT of his videos

@dand4139

Жыл бұрын

You can compliment people without ass kissing

I think it would’ve been a nice touch if The O’driscolls had distinct members of the gang, like how the Van Der Linde gang has Arthur, John, Javier, and etc. obviously Colm would still have the insane number of members he does but with a few high ranking ones that could be killed off or kill Van Der Linde gang members from time to time, I think it would make the rivalry stronger for the distinct members in Dutches gang and it would add more challenges facing the O’driscolls, plus instead of unknown low class members doing things such as kidnapping Arthur, attempting to free Colm from the hanging, killing Sadies husband, and killing Kieren, it would be done by higher class members to add more hatred make more infamous rivals to the Van Der Linde gang, just an idea though of course.

@B2KTJ

Жыл бұрын

Like the ac Valhalla Templar tree that would be cool

Can't wait this is the one I've been waiting for thx fizhy

@campbellmackintosh6446

2 жыл бұрын

(As in fuck Dutch Vanderlinde) (I’m sure you are a cool person (: )

@dutchvanderlinde4916

2 жыл бұрын

Wait what

@dutchvanderlinde2964

2 жыл бұрын

Hold up

@Retrogaming2008

2 жыл бұрын

What’s the next big score

@dutchvanderlinde2964

2 жыл бұрын

@@Retrogaming2008 a train

Does anyone else think Micah was an Odriscoll the entire time? He always seems to lead Arthur to them throughout the entire game!

@AwangKhairunnas

2 жыл бұрын

And the Pinkerton as well. I always thought of micah being a double agent who went rogue. I hope we get to see or if it ever explain in the future game who the hell Micah really is.

@raybthaboss

2 жыл бұрын

@@AwangKhairunnas Black coat like an Odriscoll with red shirt that matches the Pinkerton color scheme. I always thought it the same. 😂

@JaKingScomez

2 жыл бұрын

@@AwangKhairunnas makes no sense to think micah is a double agent

@ReaIly

2 жыл бұрын

@@AwangKhairunnas nope, he’s just psychotic as fuck

@comandantethorn9929

2 жыл бұрын

@@AwangKhairunnas i remember i saw a video not so long ago explaining that actually from the evidence in the game theres not really a good lead to point to Micah as a traitor and actually (there were multiple other suspicions but) there was a good point against Bill Williamson drawing them on accident or on purpose to them

What's worse, Jake probably wouldn't have wanted Sadie to become the way she was.

Seeing the joy and smirk on Colm O’Driscoll’s face quickly turn to terror, with him breathing heavier and harder each huff as he sees that no one is there to save him from his fate is… Honestly, I don’t know, I’m glad he’s gone for good, but knowing that he realizes his fate is sealed, it scares me.

@hippyjoe

Жыл бұрын

You know it's a video game, right?

@brodyking7095

Жыл бұрын

@@hippyjoe So, why are you here?

@oldman6916

7 ай бұрын

@@hippyjoe no way! I thought it was a netflix documentary.

11:46 Dutch: “They were talking…” Also Dutch: “They were talking!?” ahh love the little subtleties.

@marloncarbajal5492

2 жыл бұрын

THEY WAS TALKING

@ANNEKE1999

2 жыл бұрын

@@marloncarbajal5492 I read this, heard Dutch saying it and Micah shaking his head and felt the frustration of Arthur. Maybe because I just went through this mission again.

@bigt100

Жыл бұрын

Dutch was begging arhtur to get micah becuz tthey was "talking" about hanging him. 2 but when it happens to John he takes his time

I like to think Dutch never went after Arthur because as you play him he’s gone for days at a time snd he just thinks you’re off finding cards or fist fighting a legendary beaver

@ieatpeopleand

Жыл бұрын

Dutch: Has anybody seen Arthur? Tilly: He was here a few days ago, he said something about finding five cigarette cards, then he dropped off a half dozen perfect deer pelts, did some chores, spent a good ten minutes petting Cain, played a game of Five Finger Fillet, sang a song at the campfire and then took off again mumbling to himself about finding a set of giant bones or something. Bill: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I heard Arthur saying something about killing a vampire!

@TARDISTIMEROTOR

Жыл бұрын

@@ieatpeopleand arthur Comes back:I told you it was a setup DUUUTCH

@maestrovon_r5108

Жыл бұрын

@@TARDISTIMEROTOR Then Bill expresses his disappointment that Arthur didn't fight a Vampire.

If you really think about it keiran is the most tragic character in rdr2, his parents died from disease when he was young, then the stable he was at threw him out, he tried it with the army but it didnt work out, he was then captured by the o'driscolls and was basically told to ride with them or be killed, he then captured by the gang and just when he feels hes starting to fit in and that hes found his place in life, he gets kidnapped and tortured to death, then has his body brutalised, while the gang he was finally starting to be apart of doesnt even realise

18:09 if you fishing with Javier, Arthur would talk about Colm and Dutch, saying that they weren't allies but they understand one another. Until Colm developed a meaner streak and Dutch wanting a different life than what they were doing

Whenever talks of the next game and where it should go next happen I noticed a lot of people gravitate towards Jack Marston, since we got a brief snippet of his young adult life in the first game. This is a story I want to see told, but first, and I think logically speaking, it makes the most sense for the next game to be played as a young Dutch, meeting up with Hosea, the creation of the gang and its culmination to where the second game begins, as well as finding Arthur, John, Charles, Bill, and Javier. Also his relationship with Colm, their adventures, and their eventual falling out. Maybe even some of the other influences in Dutch’s life that helped shaped his anarchist philosophies and developed his hatred for the government. Didn’t he serve in the military briefly? Dutch’s love interest Annabelle, whose life and death I think had a huge impact on Dutch’s slow burn into a callous, vengeful man. The Blackwater job, the Ferry job gone wrong. There is so much to explore there, and the way they divulged so much of this information in the second game (literally even the smallest details like a picture of Arthur’s dad, his dog, etc) I’m pretty sure this is the direction they plan on going. Anybody else feel this way? For some reason I feel like most of the time people want to see Jack’s story next, but for me it’s Dutch all the way. I want to play as Dutch and experience his souring.

@PaulRodriguez9

2 жыл бұрын

Nah. The story is over for this gang. Plus if you do the Blackwater's mission or ferry mission. That wouldnt be a smooth transition to RD2. And it's called Red Dead "Redemption". Knowing Dutchs choices and fate. How the hell will he even have a Redemption? He dies a villain.

@ANNEKE1999

2 жыл бұрын

Yes but maybe more as a spin-off and less as a "Redemption" game. For that, I'd love to see Hosea as main character as he could have a redemption in the end. He even said to Dutch that he want noone more to die and that he wants all of them safe before he passes as he felt that he doesn't have much time left. It would be really interesting to see the formation of the gang from his perspective.

@biohazard724

2 жыл бұрын

With the caveat of NOT playing as Dutch, yes. Introduce a new character who either bails or dies before the Blackwater job

@BaseRealist

2 жыл бұрын

@@PaulRodriguez9 the next game could be called “Red Dead Rising” and the one after, Jack’s story, could be Red Dead Retribution, and it’s all about Jack trying to sabotage the American government for the way they used his father and then dispensed of him like cattle. Also as I stated, there’s a crap ton left still untold in terms of the gangs creation and everything else I listed, so I’m not sure what you mean by the story is over for this gang. A game about Jack would be a continuation of the story but with Jack, possibly starting his own small gang to fight the government. Sounds like a lot more to tell to me. As well as Dutch’s childhood. And the game would end with the gang bitching the Blackwater Job, fleeing north, and losing the last few people before the second game begins. Smooth enough for me lol.

@BaseRealist

2 жыл бұрын

@@biohazard724 why do you specifically not want to play as Dutch? Just curious. That’s personally who I want to play the most after the last game. I want to experience his mind, his thinking first hand. Plus his childhood and teenage years/young adult years were crazy eventful.

Sadie is 100% my favorite character, her transition from Sad Bitch ™ to Bad Bitch ™ is one of my favorite arcs of all time. I like to believe that she put up one massive fight when the O’Driscolls came down on her home, especially judging by how strong she was in the RDR online missions.

@MyaB1986

Жыл бұрын

It's a little bit shoehorned imho. She was never a "sad bitch" she was dealing with death of her husband and suddenly becoming an outlaw, but she was always headstrong, just avoidant.

@shroomshroom5945

Жыл бұрын

I adore her. She is a fearless warrior.

@hippyjoe

Жыл бұрын

There wasn't an arch at all, she was "sad" for like, a chapter, and then turned into a one dimensional permanent temper tantrum of a character. Or maybe caricature would be a better word. She wasn't even all that affected in Chapter 2. She doesn't act like someone in mourning. At best she just seemed bored.

@hippyjoe

Жыл бұрын

@@shroomshroom5945 She's a suicidal midwit

@warlordofbritannia

Жыл бұрын

@@hippyjoe That’s called depression my friend. It is an empty feeling, so deep and numbing that you can’t even feel sad. It only seems like boredom, which at least implies the desire to do something more. Depression strips away even the desire to live at times.

Most O'driscal camp i found i sneak up and listen to them and they usally talk bad about Colm. Even once i started shooting one yelled "Another gunfight and Colm aint nowhere to be seen!"

Kieran didn't lead the O'driscolls to the camp, they found them

16:10 Can we take the time to notice the fact that this O'Driscoll took a bullet in the noggin for one of his fellow members.

@Fizhy

2 жыл бұрын

A meaningless sacrifice

@anotherrandomguy8871

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad Fishy had high velocity ammo I think. His sacrifice shall be remembered, despite being very meaningless, and maybe on accident too.

@AwangKhairunnas

2 жыл бұрын

@@Fizhy lmfao dude was trying to get out of sight and accidentally ran in between the shooting range. Poor man

the most important thing is that Arthur kinda liked Arturo Bullard (the flight instructor)

Great video. I’m sure Sadie used to say “Besides my Jakey, you’re the best man I’ve ever known” instead of “You’re my best friend” at the end of the Hanging Dog Ranch mission. I noticed they changed quite a lot of minor dialogue in the game

@JFK.Robot.Knight

2 жыл бұрын

Sadie's dialogue in that scene changes depending on Arthur's honor.

@kiroxdem5703

2 жыл бұрын

@@JFK.Robot.Knight what's the high honor version?

@Ignaciofinger

2 жыл бұрын

@@kiroxdem5703 If you have high honour, Sadie calls Arthur the best man she’s known besides her husband.

@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK

2 жыл бұрын

Actually they didn’t change it, they just have alternative certain lines to spice up replay and they change at random

@ianp1986

2 жыл бұрын

@@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK Oh well, guess I’ll need to start my seven millionth playthrough 😂

I do enjoy breakdowns like this. Over an hour and I wanted more by the end. Thanks and good work.

Arthur super punching an O'Driscoll 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@MCKSAINT

2 жыл бұрын

Fr🤣

@timmyd151

Жыл бұрын

"You bastards shot my cousin!!"

@fiercedezy3114

2 ай бұрын

@@timmyd151 "Well he started it"

One of my favorite videos of yours I've seen. Just started a few weeks ago watching your old ones. For sure you spent a good amount of time on this . Well done.

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd like to see the next game have us play as, or at least heavily feature, Sadie. Total badass.

@Mac.Aodhagain

Жыл бұрын

There’s no redemption in her story, so you wouldn’t be able to play as her

@TheDownrankTrain

Жыл бұрын

Personally I think Sadie should have been the prologue character, but that would have caused neckbeard rage

@Mac.Aodhagain

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDownrankTrain I hope you mean because she’s a terribly written character, not because she’s a woman.

@mitrion301

Жыл бұрын

​​@@Mac.Aodhagain also, Look at how Sadie was behaving during Chapter 1,2 and a little of 3, that would have been one boring Prolouge. But yea, I also don't really like her, I think she is fine but very boring.

@potatomanagement_5770

Жыл бұрын

@@Mac.Aodhagain lmao how is she a bad written character, has the same motivation as half the gang members 💀

Congrats mate. You’re nearly at 300k subs. Keep going. 👍

Just watching the beginning of this and never thought about the fact that the horse in the stable (Arthur's starting horse) could likely have been Jake or Sadie's horse

I find that the most distinctive article of "O'Driscoll" attire is the green neckerchief. There are many NPCs in the game that wear a long grayish colored riding coat, but the O'Driscoll's are the only ones who wear a green neckerchief. Some of them even have green bands around their hats..

5:12 The way he went flying had me crying of laughter... XD

The fact that the O’driscolls and the Van Der Linde gang being allies was actually a true fact This can be heard from in one of the side missions in chapter three when you go fishing with Javier

Sadie was viciously abused in front of her husband before they killed him. Don't remember where you learn that but it's in the game. The last O'Driscolls you go after with Sadie is the man who killed her husband.

I’ve been catching up on your videos and absolutely love these in depth documentaries. Amazing amount of detail and explanation and the amount of research that goes into them is very much appreciated. Keep up the fantastic work you are doing!

So happy to watch this. Thank you. I'm new to the game. Only had it a month. But I'm addicted. I'm sorry I spoiled myself but it's all good. I had to restart the game from chapter 5 to get everything done with Arthur that I could before he started coughing. Beat it with high honor

@elisarosales-solis5999

Жыл бұрын

Good for you my dude, very worth it imo.

Kieran is quite possibly one of the best characters in video game history. He went through hell, back, and back through hell throughout his life, and he stayed loyal to those who treated him like someone who wasn't expendable. He needs his own game.

@OakNuggins

11 ай бұрын

Why does everyone think every character needs a game lmfao. His entire life has consisted of ranching, joining the O'driscols, joining Dutch's gang, then being tortured and killed. I love his character too, but goddamn let's think a little bit, does that sound like a fun game?

@CommanderNoob

11 ай бұрын

@@OakNuggins Not saying that every character deserves their own game. I'm talking about before he ended up getting involved in gangs.

@delshonrosnorc8442

5 ай бұрын

Fuckimg Rockstar prevents Kieran ranching stimulator sounds fun to you bro? Like you get your ass beat and whine like a bitch then u join the odriscills get smacked and the game ends. Idk what kinda games you have played bu im ood on ranching as a character that has like three moments before he dies years before his death

In the beginning of the game, it makes me wonder what would happen if the gang found the Adler homestead before the O'Driscolls. Would they too have killed Jake, widowing Sadie so they could stay at the homestead to wait out the blizzard? While Dutch's gang has morals unlike the O'Driscolls, they still are a gang of criminals who I feel would do the same as the O'Driscolls did.

@franpham9455

2 жыл бұрын

micah probably would… he was the one who found the house for dutch, if the o’driscolls weren’t there then he probably would’ve killed the adlers then hide their bodies from the gang

@mrdr0161

2 жыл бұрын

No. The only reason they went there was to ask for help. They weren't there to kill the owners and rob them

@JamesJJSMilton

2 жыл бұрын

It's unlikely. They might have robbed them, but they probably wouldn't have killed them.

@Splunkster

2 жыл бұрын

They likely wouldn't. At worst they would of held Jake at gunpoint and made him give them supplies, but they wouldn't of killed him.

@pain27k

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree with all of you. You forget that Dutch and Hosea kind of had a moral path that they didn’t stray from (Dutch did in the end, so there’s that lmaoo). They would’ve probably just asked for help, tried to con them or something. Idk, don’t know if violence was gonna be the answer

“I’ll break your neck!” Proceeds to have every bone shattered to a sonic boom

@silencerrosalind

Жыл бұрын

Get's me everytime lol

@timmyd151

Жыл бұрын

"you bastards shot my cousin!"

I love Sadie so much, her character might be the best side character that stays in the picture ever like oh my GOODness

@The_Real_colm

3 ай бұрын

Yes, she was a good partner.

Brilliant….thanks for taking the time to put the O’Driscoll story together and explain it in such a detailed & compelling way…. #Blockbuster

the way Dutch left Arthur for dead instantly made me hate Dutch

Dude this was a fantastic video. Even though RDO is dead, RDR2’s story is one of the greatest video game tales ever made. 👍🏽

1:18:12 probably isn't the first cut in the video to save people from spoilers but it's the first one I noticed and appreciated

I love the way that rockstar animated Colm oDriscolls face as he was about to die the amount of fear

This is what I love about open world game or sandbox type games, there's always a ton of really good lore behind just about everything

That pride and confidence on o'driscoll face changing into fear as he realises he's about to die is just muah

I love O’Driscolls for all the reasons of being the enemy. The one thing I think that is really cool that the Van Der Linde gang does do is have a color code. I love that they all rep the Color green. Gives more of a gang feel and more stereotypical of outlaw gangs.

Damn O'Driscolls

Thanks for going over the whole first chapter of the game. When I played I didn't know what was going on until I got the hang of controls.

The whole playing in game audio then repeating everything they said word for word is pretty spot on. Really good work buddy.

In reference to what Kieran said when explaining the similarities between the O'Driscolls and the Van DER Lind gang during the horse ride to "Six Point Cabin", you said that once you strip all of Dutch's "philosophy bull$hit" away, that the O'Driscolls and Dutch's crew aren't that different. But then later, you accurately pointed out that the O'Driscolls have no problem "looping the innocent into their schemes". And that's it! THAT is the difference between the two. At least it was up until the "Blackwater incident", and then everything began to unravel. In all of the newspaper articles and other RDR2 lore, they're described as the "Robin Hood types" - robbing from the rich, and giving to the poor and destitute. Colm and his cutthroats are no such thing, and only ever seem to look out for themselves.

Funny how Colm expected his men to fight things he didn't want to face himself. And the only time he was forced to face something himself was his own death

The burning of the Adler Homestead was the first clue that Micah was a traitor. It denied the gang adequate shelter and the huge fire might have been seen by pursuers.

@xshme

10 ай бұрын

I thought about that too, but at the same time, the O'Driscolls know about the place, so idk if its really safe

13:22 | "The feud started when Dutch killed Colm's *brother,* and then Colm killed Dutch's *lover,* and now they have a bitter hatred for one *another."* ... ...that rhymed when it shouldn't of... XD

Well worth the wait, this was amazing. Thank you fizhy 😊👍

I always loved Arthur's "Thank You" when he gets saved by duffy

Thanks for the view of the gang and the reminder of how great this story is as a western. I do have to play it again. So much I haven't done outside of the main story. One has to wonder how many members the O'Driscolls have. Sadie brags about hunting and killing a few but I killed dozens. I even hit their ranch before a story mission. Found the knife behind the compound and went from there. Seems the machine gun goes missing later in the game.

I remember a mission where Arthur goes fishing with Kieran. While fishing Arthur tells Kieren says that Dutch and Colm used to work together.

Kieran was pretty alright for an O'Driscoll... 😔

@iristhundercloud9684

2 жыл бұрын

Rip Kieran

Your RDR2 videos have been the next best thing to replaying the game. Thank you for all the work.

That super punch killed me 😭

Love these dude. Really good series!

Colm was trying to recruit Arthur. It's how he got Kerian too, he killed the people he rode with and gave him a choice, ride or die. I think Dutch wanted Colm to recruit Arthur so he could say he betrayed him. It's basically a sacrifice of your best man. Then he could have Micah and the dutch boys go kill him. But it's more like Arthur would of ended them. Colm even tells Arthur I missed you, references the ole days.

@twinzzlers

Жыл бұрын

Nah, not at this point.

i love this long evil. i could watch more of these from you.

"You got yourself a gun... or whats left of one" Bro idk why but that hit so hard

"i dont belive it. ..its god damn dutch van der linde" My favorite line

Love that you're still making this. Breathing interest into this game that rockstar seems hellbent to squander.

Amazing video! I love these in depth videos on the gangs

So excited when I saw this vid is over an hour. Amazing content always & an amazing creator

Yessss I have been looking forward to this one for awhile now! This game will always remain relevant to me. Thank you Fizhy🖤

I’ve played rdr2 5 times, and everyone has already said it, but the dialogue from Roger Clark in this is awesome.