A vary interesting opinion, based obviously on some evidence, on the increase in Christian belief. The change from ancient belief systems to Christianity has always fascinated me. Thank you.

The description by Saint Cyprian, as he understood of the symptoms, points to a hemorragic fever, similar to Ebola or Marburg. The Plague of Antonine, one century before and less deadly per case though it killed a higher number and was much more contagious, according to Galen's (an Imperial Physician) was apparently Smallpox. The Plague of Justinian was the Bubonic Plague. There was another less extensive epidemic between the Plague of Cyprian and the one of Justinian, similar to cholera or typhoid.

@user-cw3wm9lx7w

5 ай бұрын

the cyprian plague is unknown.

@roverworld7218

4 ай бұрын

@user-cw3wm9lx7w We may never know for certain due to the lack of clear evidence or descriptions, but the bloody "fluxes" (old word for flow, in other words outpouring of fluids out of the body) via the gastrointestinal tract and hemorragic conjunctivitis like symptoms sound very similar to Ebola or Magburg, though could had been a different virus. Also forensic evidence in other similar ancient "plagues" describing bleeding that to typhus or other usually lesser affecting pathogens that we know may have been the left over from secondary infections since Microbial DNA from bacteria is easier trace than viral DNA which sometimes leaves no clear trace, especially after over hundred of years due to decomposition, which in the case of viruses takes only hours.

The other explanation I read regarding the same circumstances, was that the Pagans viewed Christianity as the "DOOMSDAY" religion, because of the 2nd coming and all that stuff. To the Pagans, the wars, and the plagues and the decline of the empire felt like the stuff Christianity was preaching and thus it gained their interest. So a different perspective on that same circumstance.

@Stephenvguerra

4 жыл бұрын

That is interesting. If you see the world going to hell in a hand basket, why not go with someone who is throwing a life line.

@Itsatz0

4 жыл бұрын

@@Stephenvguerra Unfortunately, those throwing you the life line are the ones who caused the world to go to hell in the first place. Nothing like ignorance and superstition to drive a society into stagnation.

@Stephenvguerra

4 жыл бұрын

@@Itsatz0 ignorance and superstition was what was destroying Roman society in the 200's and it had nothing to do with the Christians. The Crisis of the 3rd Century was the dark ages come early.

@DEMcouver

4 жыл бұрын

It’s not either/or. It could be both.

@Itsatz0

4 жыл бұрын

@@Stephenvguerra No, it was Constantine making Christianity the state religion that brought the dark ages. The pagans were superstitious alright, but they weren't ignorant and pathetic.

I bet you can imagine it now....

@ricardolopez7059

3 жыл бұрын

Sup

@ricardolopez7059

3 жыл бұрын

Brutally

@4IN14094

3 жыл бұрын

EXPERIENCE it.

What a difference between the kindness and charity of Christians during this plague, and over a millennium later during the Black Death when they slaughtered Jews, threw their own dead onto the streets, and some priests refused to give last rites to the dying. Success doesn’t seem to have led to improvement.

@histguy101

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think that was generally the case, but people do panic. By the time of the black death, there were hospitals everywhere, and they were all quickly overwhelmed, but temporary hospitals were set up all over in public buildings, churches, monasteries, etc. Archeologists have found graves of bubonic plague victims where half a town died within day, and mass graves had to be dug, but within those mass graves, victims were given funerary rites, places within funerary shrouds, and spaced nearly apart.

12:40, the problem with this assumption is medical treatments at the time were either ineffictive or dangerous. The idea that using treatments that problem didn’t work would reduce the death toll, is unlikely.

I had the mumps. They said you can still rarely get them if you had the vaccine. When you consider it in these terms, we have it easy with just the coronavirus. Stay strong everyone

So it goes on

There have been recent theories that the Cyprian plague was caused by haemorrhagic fever.

10:15, i dont believe that for a second.

Honestly the only thing that nursing could do, is remind you that someone cares and would take care of you.

This came out 6 months too early

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Seems unlikely, I doubt these statements. Christian scholars often engaged in revisionism

too much unlikely or unprovable speculation.

it was too old

no offense but u kind of jinked us.( covid-19 )

I am curious but the voice is intolerable. Get speech lessons and stop vocalizing through your nose.