The PERFECT vs WORST Manager in FM23

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  • @tthaas
    @tthaas Жыл бұрын

    Give 2 managers (one perfect, one terrible) identical teams (say, everyone with a 13 rating in everything) in the same league, lock everyone into long contacts, and see how things go from there.

  • @noddyjoe

    @noddyjoe

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe duplicate the same club (eg two Liverpools) and lock the managers to each club and see how they go

  • @fishead3448

    @fishead3448

    Жыл бұрын

    @@noddyjoe or they could give the worst liverpool and then the best everton or leeds

  • @bighandsome9165

    @bighandsome9165

    Жыл бұрын

    I think by the end it is pretty clear that the manager attributes just do not really do anything.

  • @DanielPandaYT

    @DanielPandaYT

    4 ай бұрын

    You can't have 2 managers on the same team

  • @Frasbul
    @Frasbul Жыл бұрын

    Can you do a similar experiment with a perfect manager + perfect staff vs worst manager + worst staff?

  • @Leosch633
    @Leosch633 Жыл бұрын

    Hey if you do these experiments again can you please edit their hidden attributes like preferred formation and tactical stats (pressing, offense, Defense etc.). From my experiences those stats have a huge impact on the team performances. For example if you change the preferred formation of pep to a 424, Man City are going to turn rubbish.

  • @footballoracleai
    @footballoracleai Жыл бұрын

    I love your videos my friend! How about a video about two 15-year-old players whose current skills are at 0, but the potentials are at 200. One on a bad team, one on a good team and then watch the development.

  • @mojdisco2
    @mojdisco2 Жыл бұрын

    Di Matteo winning UCL with chelsea was basically this video but in real life

  • @trevorphilips5252

    @trevorphilips5252

    Жыл бұрын

    Then he got sacked during the Napoli game

  • @canihasfreeusername
    @canihasfreeusername Жыл бұрын

    "This worst manager is incredible" 😄

  • @TinchoAthleticArgentina
    @TinchoAthleticArgentina Жыл бұрын

    6:53 Port Vale went from playing the Fourth division to being relegated to the 6th

  • @shawnbordenfifa

    @shawnbordenfifa

    13 күн бұрын

    I wasn’t the only one that noticed that

  • @Writeous0ne
    @Writeous0ne Жыл бұрын

    My guess is the managers act on advise from the other staff when simmed, so like when we get all of the pre match advise and such, i guess the manager does and he will be acting on advise from the other staff. Maybe try it again but make all the worst managers staff bad too.

  • @JeddRelleen
    @JeddRelleen Жыл бұрын

    Loved the video Tom! Keep up the solid work mate!

  • @philstansfield
    @philstansfield Жыл бұрын

    It's actually really disappointing seeing the results of all these experiments with staff/facilities/stadiums etc. Almost confirms that it all makes such minimal difference that it is completely pointless. The only thing that actually makes a difference is the players.

  • @acarith8494

    @acarith8494

    Жыл бұрын

    Only the manager was changed, if you have poor facilities and staff your players won't develop as well etc.

  • @philstansfield

    @philstansfield

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@acarith8494 He has literally done videos on all of it. That's why I brought it up. Best facilities against worst facilities....best facilities didn't pull ahead. Same with managers etc. Stadiums....all sorts. None had an effect. So....as I said.....the only thing (other than tons of money) that really makes any difference whatsoever in FM is the players. Sont need to bother improving facilities or getting better staff etc....as it's been proven with all the different videos....that they make very little difference....if any

  • @acarith8494

    @acarith8494

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philstansfield I dont know, I can tell a difference in how my young players develop when I have great youth facilities and staff compared to below average for example. For many people it's about min maxing. If I have a wonderkid with 5-star potential but I have shit facilities, then he most likely won't reach that potential.

  • @philstansfield

    @philstansfield

    Жыл бұрын

    @@acarith8494 but watch the videos. He did one with two identical wonderkids. Locked into clubs. 1 with perfect facilities....and one with awful. Practically no difference. People forget that most players have a "potential range" so they are different every game. When you think that guy grew better because of facilities....it was probably just him at the top end of his range. Same with staff etc....they make very little difference. I have watched loads of different content creators do these little tests. Results are always similar. Facilities and staff have very little effect.

  • @lachlanhines7644

    @lachlanhines7644

    Жыл бұрын

    @@philstansfield Youth made a difference. Give a team perfect youth facilities and recruitments and they'll eventually climb to the prem.

  • @GetStuckInThere
    @GetStuckInThere Жыл бұрын

    at 4:21 you csn see that current leeds forward sam greenwood dropped all the way to national league for Boston utd crazy how some sims end up

  • @adrianodesantos4807
    @adrianodesantos4807 Жыл бұрын

    Sooo. With you beeing a full professional youtuber.... Does that mean we get even more FM content here? Found your cannel some weeks ago and nearly watched every FM Simulation yet. LOVE IT!!!

  • @maxxp3728
    @maxxp3728 Жыл бұрын

    Managers and manager attributes are completely irrelevant in fm . All AI managers are exactly the same barring there preferred formation the stats are there to try to make u think they mean something and that the game isn't as shallow as it is

  • @aries666dc

    @aries666dc

    Жыл бұрын

    You are right. 2 managers with similar stats and formations will somehow do completely different, regardless of their team and players as well

  • @andreasmller-srensen7255

    @andreasmller-srensen7255

    Жыл бұрын

    Knowing fm its probably supposed to work, but they just haven't bothered fixing it for like 6 years

  • @zarovich9397

    @zarovich9397

    10 ай бұрын

    I think it’d affect general player unhappiness, in match happiness and youth players getting bad traits, but that’s it. I don’t even know if touchline talks are simmed if you’re not in a match and even the ai struggles to make more than one or two players unhappy at a time. Really think that transfers are done thru the DoF or the board as well (to fit a managers tactic,) you never really get player biases when managers move clubs, only the club biases (like Portuguese players for Wolves.)

  • @festiveboi6753
    @festiveboi6753 Жыл бұрын

    Since Scarborough have been doing so well in these simulations, might as well give them the biggest stadium and attendances. Change nothing else, but those two, and see how they go. Go the Seagulls!

  • @georgedarbyshire5222
    @georgedarbyshire5222 Жыл бұрын

    Give the Welsh league one billion but bring back teams playing in england Attempt 3

  • @chriswinter8511
    @chriswinter8511 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know what you were expecting XD Worst manager has scouts to scout the best players, perhaps a director to buy the players, he just needed to play a basic tactic. They had the staff and money to not struggle. The best manager had a club with very very poor finances, poor staff and not a very good squad. can't vastly improve the squad with no money and poor staff. if you look at the league finish graph it shows that Arsenal overall Arsenal are gradually doing worse, and Scunthorpe was gradually doing better. It just took some gradual time rather than being quick.

  • @mrtats6590
    @mrtats6590 Жыл бұрын

    You know what that ad transition was perfect, I haven't realized it was an ad till mid point.

  • @lcfootballmanagementagency9606
    @lcfootballmanagementagency9606 Жыл бұрын

    Your are a good entertainer. Well done done and governo on! 👍🏼

  • @bentarbuck6161
    @bentarbuck6161 Жыл бұрын

    I tried something similar, i used the IGE to find managers with overall of 1 and put them in charge of city and utd. made zero different. their overall never went up, but they were both there 10-15 years going back and forth with league wins. in the past ive put wenger and ferguson in the national north and they both were treading mid table water before moving on

  • @md.abdullaalwailykhanchowd3974
    @md.abdullaalwailykhanchowd397410 ай бұрын

    3:02 This worst manager is incredible!!

  • @Impah97
    @Impah97 Жыл бұрын

    Let’s gooo you’re a Lincoln fan!! Up the imps!! Going to the game vs burton on the 21st

  • @hollychope
    @hollychope Жыл бұрын

    another banger video! go on tom!

  • @TinchoAthleticArgentina
    @TinchoAthleticArgentina Жыл бұрын

    3:04 aupa athleticccc

  • @Alphoric
    @Alphoric Жыл бұрын

    Can we just appreciate how this game thinks haaland would score 22 goals in the season he’s on 21 in real life right now after just 15 matches

  • @BriswallYT
    @BriswallYT Жыл бұрын

    How did Tom not notice Birmingham City sitting midtable in National League?

  • @lowencraft1404

    @lowencraft1404

    10 ай бұрын

    Port Vale getting relegated from the VNL too

  • @jamesbraynion846
    @jamesbraynion846 Жыл бұрын

    when will the next part of the lincoln series come out? keep up the good content

  • @cm-rtv8259
    @cm-rtv8259 Жыл бұрын

    Do some challenges with Scarborough Athletic and see how far they go

  • @barts.8336

    @barts.8336

    Жыл бұрын

    Fully agree, they deserve it! ;-)

  • @theengelby
    @theengelby Жыл бұрын

    Hey I like you video! Pleas make more! I having proposals swap the team from Allsvenskan with the Premier league clubs

  • @longlifetometal1995
    @longlifetometal1995 Жыл бұрын

    3:42 like Domenech bringing France to World Cup Final in 2006 ?

  • @Thorfinn175
    @Thorfinn175 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do an experiment with the perfect manager with worst staff vs worst manager with perfect staff

  • @carrollnir2804
    @carrollnir2804 Жыл бұрын

    You should do an experiment where you simulate both Messi & Ronaldo’s careers but the twist being that the other doesn’t exist in their respective universes. To see who wins the most Ballon D’ors without the other there as competition

  • @zarko364
    @zarko364 Жыл бұрын

    can you create development of player based on all personality so we can see does them really count in development as they say they would

  • @nxbula6227
    @nxbula6227 Жыл бұрын

    This challenge is very fair though because Scunthorpe start with Taft and Nutall whereas arsenal only has Jesus and Gabriel

  • @polskasausage762
    @polskasausage762 Жыл бұрын

    Start 2 identical teams with two managers in the conference , one good one bad see how far they can get

  • @moncefecw3131
    @moncefecw3131 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting idea

  • @phathutshedzomuvhango6013
    @phathutshedzomuvhango6013 Жыл бұрын

    mate, on my saves, if i sim through an entire season[holiday ]. i come back to read emails from other staff, board or squad members praising the 2nd in command not me for the teams success.. makes sense cause i was on holiday whilst the fella work the team.. Although im not familiar with rigged or controlled simulations, I'd say and do say, it may be that worst and best manager were on holiday all the time

  • @bostontaylor8734
    @bostontaylor8734 Жыл бұрын

    As a loyal sea dogs fan, watching us do so well means you have to do a save with us please 🎉

  • @ViteK-33
    @ViteK-334 ай бұрын

    5:22 Tod Boehly in a nutshell

  • @diogopereira4436
    @diogopereira4436 Жыл бұрын

    What view do you use to see Current and Potential ability in the squad views?

  • @serdara3500
    @serdara3500 Жыл бұрын

    Tom what is your main camera? It looks great though.

  • @mickmccarthy8219
    @mickmccarthy8219 Жыл бұрын

    Scunthorpe probably strugged due to their terrible finances in real life if im right?

  • @havokuk6848
    @havokuk6848 Жыл бұрын

    That's crazy!! I'm from scunthorpe and support arsenal

  • @explosive68
    @explosive68 Жыл бұрын

    Birmingham were in the National League at one point!

  • @thomascope166
    @thomascope166 Жыл бұрын

    Can u do another perfect wonder-kid experiment and have one from each of the home nations

  • @ironzone5866
    @ironzone5866 Жыл бұрын

    Sounds about right 😂

  • @jordanh5787
    @jordanh5787 Жыл бұрын

    Could you put all staff at a club to 1 and all staff at another club at 20?

  • @fusixnrwicnwiejciwj8925
    @fusixnrwicnwiejciwj8925 Жыл бұрын

    RIP Pelé

  • @blzdCoockie
    @blzdCoockie Жыл бұрын

    Should be tried out with all staff too, the lesser team given as many staff members as the higher team

  • @ParksandPosh
    @ParksandPosh Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to Peterborough under Darren Ferguson

  • @fitrivanpersie5928
    @fitrivanpersie5928 Жыл бұрын

    For what i know if simulated till end of season, its the assistant manager that take control the squad right since the manager is on holiday? Pls correct me if im wrong.. so being worst manager is doesnt matter since the assistant takeover..

  • @indianbossman606

    @indianbossman606

    Жыл бұрын

    This is facts

  • @SkylineDG
    @SkylineDG Жыл бұрын

    Man became Ted Lasso 💀

  • @danhayes1317
    @danhayes1317 Жыл бұрын

    Up the Scarborough ❤️ 🌊🐶

  • @Kylec0pezTR
    @Kylec0pezTR Жыл бұрын

    Fuck yeah Scunthorpe represent!

  • @luccasilva1932
    @luccasilva1932 Жыл бұрын

    Ted Lasso!

  • @fifaprofeshunalxxx719
    @fifaprofeshunalxxx719 Жыл бұрын

    Are you still doing Lincoln loco?

  • @zikku004
    @zikku004 Жыл бұрын

    so like ted lasso

  • @Pikachu0071000CS
    @Pikachu0071000CS Жыл бұрын

    What if you gave a team 10000 reputation but the worst players and another team 1 reputation but the best players?

  • @Jacksracingprojects2
    @Jacksracingprojects2 Жыл бұрын

    is this expierement affected by manager reuptation? if he didnt have reuptation why would players sign for him?

  • @muhrominfajar4414
    @muhrominfajar4414 Жыл бұрын

    Please do some experiment to indonesian' liga 1 to improve our national team

  • @johnouweheer2391
    @johnouweheer2391 Жыл бұрын

    Whens the Lincoln city coming again mate?

  • @dexterevans0187
    @dexterevans0187 Жыл бұрын

    In honor of pele can you simulate his career in fm 23 and see how his career turns out and if he wins a world cup

  • @tylerlang6157
    @tylerlang6157 Жыл бұрын

    I signed Pedro from flamenco in my first season as arsenal manager and he scored like 20 goals in a front 4 with Saka, Jesus and Martinelli with ø behind them

  • @gante2024
    @gante2024 Жыл бұрын

    Should have started in league 2 something which is easier to get promoted

  • @pillwolak
    @pillwolak Жыл бұрын

    RIP Pelé 🕊

  • @jackspnc
    @jackspnc Жыл бұрын

    The terrible manager signing Fireball, he knows what he's doing!

  • @joshjohnson9976
    @joshjohnson9976 Жыл бұрын

    Scarborough athletic save? 👀

  • @tomashalusek9181
    @tomashalusek9181 Жыл бұрын

    Now I see why Leicester went for Ranieri.

  • @user-ib7bc5vv2g
    @user-ib7bc5vv2g Жыл бұрын

    監督だけではなく会長や取締役、スタッフを含めたスタッフ全員、トップチームもアンダーチームも含めて最高、最悪な能力にしたらどうなるか実験をしてみてはどうでしょうか?気になっているのが獲得選手の質、クラブ知名度が高いクラブでスタッフ達が最悪な能力なのにも関わらず良い選手を連れて来ていた場合、それは能力は軽視して選手の知名度を見て獲得しているという事になります。そこに興味があります

  • @thetr8r469
    @thetr8r469 Жыл бұрын

    My pitch for a video idea is swapping the best player from the best team with the best player from the worst team in a league. Can do it for all the teams in inverse order (i.e 1st and 20th, 2nd and 19th, so on). I think it would be fun to see how differently players would excel given a totally different environment

  • @mohammadrizaii6154
    @mohammadrizaii6154 Жыл бұрын

    Wait a minute mate, are you from Lincoln?

  • @ericflorentiano971
    @ericflorentiano971 Жыл бұрын

    That perfect manager is so average without 'Tends' , he need at least 'fit players into the tactic' in order to be good or they will buy an average player that suits his tactic.

  • @prophetXCIII
    @prophetXCIII Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious to see if a perfect wonderkid would still progress if he had 1 in his hidden attributes.

  • @archibucaszn1699
    @archibucaszn1699 Жыл бұрын

    Put a perfect team in the national league south and a terrible team in the prem and see who does better in 20 seasons

  • @jeffreyboggleton
    @jeffreyboggleton Жыл бұрын

    MY TEAM WON LEAGUE 1 RIGHT AT THE VERY END!

  • @briangroothuesheidkamp9823
    @briangroothuesheidkamp9823 Жыл бұрын

    This is actually typical York, sacking a good manager for one of the worst🤣

  • @reborngamers2k10
    @reborngamers2k10 Жыл бұрын

    Really thought Bruce would of done worse at Arsenal

  • @abparker9971
    @abparker9971 Жыл бұрын

    Worst manager> Arteta then, the Arteta Outers must never find this video

  • @makb_the_striker
    @makb_the_striker Жыл бұрын

    It's obvious that Arsenal became yo-yo team. Worst manager ruined the squad. The experiment could be more relevant if the second part start in 2022

  • @Skegnes
    @Skegnes Жыл бұрын

    Ted lasso at arsenal

  • @MartiniScreamz
    @MartiniScreamz Жыл бұрын

    I think managers make difference but they can't make up for years of mismanagement at board level.... Kinda like in real life

  • @yolomax
    @yolomax Жыл бұрын

    Rip Pele

  • @KingFahtah
    @KingFahtah Жыл бұрын

    You should know by now Tom, AI staff mean diddly. It's all rep and resources.

  • @benb2157
    @benb2157 Жыл бұрын

    I think they listen to much to the assist manager, so perfect assist manager would bring up the club for llc.

  • @oliverspencer5495
    @oliverspencer5495 Жыл бұрын

    Sol e hull is how it is pronounced

  • @jackzyrl
    @jackzyrl Жыл бұрын

    Sunny Scunny for the win

  • @Baldii99
    @Baldii99 Жыл бұрын

    It’s mostly the same in real life too, read soccernomics….

  • @Arcanine-od7fc
    @Arcanine-od7fc Жыл бұрын

    Put the asian Uefa members in the Asian Cup of Nations.

  • @therealMeastro
    @therealMeastro Жыл бұрын

    If im correct managers dont really matter

  • @hanzosiku
    @hanzosiku Жыл бұрын

    "The worst manager is incredible" .... i never thought I would hear these words in the same sentence 😅😅😅

  • @donaldleroi9544
    @donaldleroi9544 Жыл бұрын

    Lincoln locos is dead isn't it

  • @aiezal1607
    @aiezal1607 Жыл бұрын

    lowkey the worst manager living ted lasso's life 😂😂😂😂

  • @KingFahtah
    @KingFahtah Жыл бұрын

    Give the worst manager to Man U. Oh wait....

  • @pugzy5456
    @pugzy5456 Жыл бұрын

    What happened to Lincoln loco

  • @wildmanmountainjack3725
    @wildmanmountainjack3725 Жыл бұрын

    I guess AI managers aren't that important to club success.

  • @bub-e2592
    @bub-e2592 Жыл бұрын

    First!

  • @randomidiot3177

    @randomidiot3177

    Жыл бұрын

    Congratulations

  • @roseodonoghue8911
    @roseodonoghue89114 ай бұрын

    Why he kinda…

  • @Noipara38
    @Noipara38 Жыл бұрын

    This is our closest season in 19 years to win the prem and YOU gave us the worst manager 😡 Jokes aside this was so fun

  • @krisr3868
    @krisr3868 Жыл бұрын

    Just for context: People Management of 3 means bullying your own players for medical problems, and telling the club doctor which medical procedure to perform (e.g. Peter Hyballa's stint in Esbjerg), as well as other mismanagement to a level where you'd get the Danish labor authorities to threaten sanctions unless you get your shit together. That's violation of common sense level bad. The worst manager is even worse than that in every aspect of being a manager.

  • @theintegral7374
    @theintegral7374 Жыл бұрын

    Even that proves how bs this game is.

  • @itslydiabxtch
    @itslydiabxtch Жыл бұрын

    How dare you give the worst manager to Arsenal

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