The Perfect 22 For Small Game

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I finished setting up my 22 and this is the perfect 22 for small game. At least it's the perfect 22 for me. The trigger has been changed, sling studs added, scope changed. Now all I have to do is check and see how it groups, set zero, and find the trajectory of the bullet.

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  • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
    @CumberlandOutdoorsman2 жыл бұрын

    I would tend to agree. The Remington 581 IS in my opinion the best choice in a small game rifle. The reasons are many. Extreme accuracy, very strong locking system, sleek stock design, super fast lock-time, perfect weight, and an advanced trigger system that can be made adjustable (if you know what you're doing), and a 60 deg. bolt throw. What's not to like?

  • @samhunt9380
    @samhunt93803 жыл бұрын

    You're a good man Tom. I appreciate the thought that you put into each video. God Bless you.....

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sam I appreciate that.

  • @slickdazzler7330
    @slickdazzler73303 жыл бұрын

    The Rifle really shoots well, the way you set it up. Great job on the upgrades. I had an uncle that wouldn't head shoot his squirrels. He would save the heads, and fry them up in the skillet, crack them open, and have them with eggs, biscuits an gravy. He would always tell me that I was throwing away the best part. Haha

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would guess at one time the brain was the favorite part for many? Back when people we're really trying to get all of the nutritional value they could out of game the organs were the most prized parts including the brain because they are the most nutrient dense. But I have to admit I've never tried squirrel brain. I remember my grandparents liked pig brains and eggs when I was little but I don't remember squirrel brains! Thanks for sharing that.

  • @lipshitz2012

    @lipshitz2012

    2 жыл бұрын

    He was correct , the brain is good but the cheeks are a pure delight.

  • @tromxuasnoc5511
    @tromxuasnoc55113 жыл бұрын

    A thumb up from France. I enjoy very much your videos for your knowledge and wisdom. Thank you sir.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    And thank you very much for your comment.

  • @matthewcrossman4029
    @matthewcrossman40293 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Tom. You have yourself a real tac driver. Looking forward to your upcoming videos

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @paulsimmons5726
    @paulsimmons57263 жыл бұрын

    My grandfather's old Stevens 87A has a 4lb trigger; I've been shooting that rifle since the 70's, kinda used to it nowadays... I've taken that ol'rifle apart to fix it so many times so I really enjoyed your perfect rifle story. There's nothing like learning a bit when you get an old "shooter"! My other 22, a Remington 40X with Redfield Olympic sights, has a 6oz trigger that works great for paper targets. Besides, it's just fun to shoot paper as a personal challenge. Relaxing too! Great video series, thanks for sharing!

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    And what we learn from those old shooters carries over into the new ones and just us makes us that more knowledgeable.

  • @bryanmatthews8337
    @bryanmatthews83373 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad your channel is growing. Been here since under 200 subs. Your doing a great job.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bryan, I really appreciate that.

  • @mattedwards4533
    @mattedwards4533 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos! You are down to earth which is not what I see in most video. My hats off to you!

  • @waynejenkins6259
    @waynejenkins62599 ай бұрын

    I happen to agree with you on this one. Although you didn’t mention the make and model, I immediately recognized that it is a Remington 581. I am a follower of the Cumberland Outdoorsman, and it was through him that I became interested in the 580 series. I currently own two 581’s, one 581S, two 582’s, and a smooth bore 580. So yeah, I’m convinced, they are top notch little rifles. Enjoyed you video!!!

  • @DavidJones-lw2lp
    @DavidJones-lw2lp3 жыл бұрын

    Yet another quality video. Thank you. 👍🏻

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @berrylawncare4890
    @berrylawncare48902 жыл бұрын

    I love this guy👍🏼

  • @josephr2766
    @josephr27663 жыл бұрын

    Great to hear your perspective on why it’s the best one for you.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @raymondhall7192
    @raymondhall71925 ай бұрын

    I really enjoyed your video. You do a good job!!

  • @edwinclark5041
    @edwinclark50413 ай бұрын

    It is PERFECT. And this is such an American Heritage Video. Awesome Rifle.

  • @terrycalvert7812
    @terrycalvert78123 жыл бұрын

    Great video Tom. Cant wait to see how the Mauser comes out after you refinish that stock and curious to see what your going to do with the 270. Always a pleasure to watch your videos.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, and I'm wondering how they're going to turn out myself? The Mauser is the one I'm really excited about doing but I know I'll enjoy refinishing that stock a lot more after the weather warms just a little bit plus I need to get some checkering tools and learn a little bit more about that. And that's why I'm going to do the 270 first. It should be a little more straight forward. Not to mention I do want to see just how accurate that 270 is? I've got a feeling it's going to be under 1/2 MOA with the right load, but that might be just wishful thinking on my part. But we'll find out soon enough!

  • @terrycalvert7812

    @terrycalvert7812

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving I’m sure the Mauser will look great when your done with it! I recently got a Winchester model 70 super grade maple in 264 win mag been eyeing it since they came out with that maple stock gun is beautiful. But anyway I worked up a load for that gun with the 140gr nosler accubonds and it will shoot 5 through the same hole and was amazingly easy to get it that accurate. That seems to be my luck with the model 70 they always shoot very very good much more accurate than what is needed for hunting deer out to 5 or 600 yards. Well thanks for the reply and I’m looking forward to your upcoming videos

  • @tomjones7593
    @tomjones75933 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again from the UK; that was an impressive group though at short range; I have a CZ bull barrel and an after market trigger made a world of difference; good all round weapon. Take care and good hunting!

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tom. Before others showed up I did get to film a shot group at 75 yards that was almost identical. I started to include it but I didn't want to have to explain why the group after that wasn't so good! I figured just leave it there and move on. LOL And I have no doubt that CZ of yours is a tack driver. I've only heard great things about those CZ .22s.

  • @Cloggie1967

    @Cloggie1967

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving I've also got CZ rifles. A CZ 455 in .22LR and a CZ 452 2e ZKM American in .17hmr. CZ are very popular here in the UK for their quality, accuracy and price tag. Greetings from Scotland !

  • @Thirsty_Fox
    @Thirsty_Fox2 жыл бұрын

    I have a question about sighting in the 22LR rifles. Do you let the barrel cool down after each shot? I find my point of impact changes about an inch at 50 yards as it warms up compared with when it's cool. Of course, when hunting, the shot will always be from a cold barrel. Appreciate any advice.

  • @kalicom2937
    @kalicom29373 жыл бұрын

    Another great vid. My range rifle of choice is a 22 for a lot of the reasons you give.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. And I suspect 22's are about to become a lot more popular at the range for everyone?

  • @user-bn3zo3mh5v

    @user-bn3zo3mh5v

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving Definitely

  • @douglashelm1587
    @douglashelm15879 ай бұрын

    What trigger did you put in? I have one I’d love to change triggers in.

  • @guns4funfreedomkeeper999
    @guns4funfreedomkeeper999 Жыл бұрын

    I like the way you go about.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Guns4Fun

  • @markhoyt8643
    @markhoyt86433 жыл бұрын

    It was a good video. Thank you

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    And thank you

  • @donaldblankenship510
    @donaldblankenship5102 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @aircommando505
    @aircommando5053 жыл бұрын

    I have the 582 (tube fed). Great woods gun and very accurate.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have no doubt that I would love the 580 single shot as well. All of the rifles in the 580 line are shooters and with a rifle this accurate you don't need but one shot. But the magazine and tube are a convenient place to keep your bullets so you don't have to dig them out of your pocket!

  • @paulcondie2520
    @paulcondie25202 жыл бұрын

    Like to see some of the squirrels from the upcoming season in a future videos. Nice .22 for sure!

  • @twolak1972
    @twolak1972 Жыл бұрын

    I owned a little black clip fed 581 years ago and felt the same way ,UNTIL I MET MY 541 T. The 581 was very accurate but my 541 is as close to the perfect rifle as I have ever found. 7 lb weight like my deer rifles, Outstanding trigger and super accurate barrel not to mention the BEAUTIFUL black walnut stock just makes it a joy to take into a woods and shoot a mess of squirrels.

  • @guns4funfreedomkeeper999

    @guns4funfreedomkeeper999

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a little 541 I bought about 26 years ago. It is still the most accurate 22LR I own.

  • @twolak1972

    @twolak1972

    Жыл бұрын

    @@guns4funfreedomkeeper999 Dont sell it. 541,s are really hard to find and command premium.prices. I've had mine 30 years and except for a little blueing see through on the barrel is in mint condition and I know I've shot over 700 squirrels with that little Jem.

  • @bullseyedixon5660
    @bullseyedixon5660 Жыл бұрын

    GREAT VIDEO SIR

  • @stevedouglas5443
    @stevedouglas54433 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna do a trigger job on my Remington 341, and drill and tap for a scope. Nothing beats these old 22,s. Beautiful, accurate, and they don't make em like that anymore. I'm a bit nervous about sling swivels, but gotta have them as well.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    The sling swivels are pretty simple. Just take your time and mark your spot with a nice big punch. If you have a big punch mark the drill will stay centered in it and won't walk all over the place on you when starting the hole. And it's best to practice on a couple of scrap pieces of wood. Good luck

  • @stevedouglas5443

    @stevedouglas5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving yes, I'll get up the nerve,. I just don't want the wood to splinter. It's a 1937. Thanks!

  • @squirrelhunter4life909
    @squirrelhunter4life909 Жыл бұрын

    Tom, I have a remington 582 , what after market triggers are there for this gun ??,

  • @edjett2631
    @edjett2631 Жыл бұрын

    I bought my 581 in 1968. Still have it. It shoots good enough, but needs some work. They are "the perfect squirrel rifle". They typically shoot well above their pay grade.

  • @fawnlliebowitz1772
    @fawnlliebowitz1772 Жыл бұрын

    First rifle I ever bought used for 22 bucks a a gun shop....... Rem 582 same as yours but tube magazine, EXCELLENT gun and stupid ass me parted it out on ebay. Still kicking myself.

  • @charleywalker2982
    @charleywalker29827 ай бұрын

    I have the 582. Good guns for sure.

  • @johncampbellsr3010
    @johncampbellsr3010 Жыл бұрын

    What kind of replacement trigger did you find to replace the stock trigger with?

  • @donaldanderson4139
    @donaldanderson41395 ай бұрын

    I’ve got a model 580 and would like to update it with a adjustable trigger like the 581&582 have. What do you suggest?

  • @ronkay1573
    @ronkay15739 ай бұрын

    I customized my Rem 581 with a match Broughton barrel and a Canjar trigger set at 1.2(lbs. I also put an AA+ black walnut stock with a second action screw.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    8 ай бұрын

    Nice!

  • @user-ds1ew6wp4l
    @user-ds1ew6wp4l Жыл бұрын

    What do you think of the Winchester model 75 22lr thank you J T

  • @patnoble1914
    @patnoble1914 Жыл бұрын

    Nice group.

  • @Oneofthetwelve
    @Oneofthetwelve3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tom. I’m on standby to help with the L.E. restoration. Cheers to the viewers. Wish we could all get together for a pint or a coffee

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm going to send you an email this week. I want to get your thoughts on a few things.

  • @Oneofthetwelve

    @Oneofthetwelve

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving Sure. Very good. I’ll put the percolator on. Cheers

  • @bryanmiller963
    @bryanmiller963 Жыл бұрын

    If i may ask Tom...what trigger did you instal...thanks

  • @markhansen8078
    @markhansen80782 жыл бұрын

    TY for yet another fun video. The trigger is super important to me. The trigger is the main interface between the shooter and the rifle. To me this is the most critical point. This is true with any devise. Determine the critical interface point and make it as good as you can. I recall a tour of the Ferrari plant in Italy that I watched on TV. Enzo Ferrari was giving the tour. At the end of the tour the guest asked Enzo what is the most important part of a car? Enzo surprised me with the answer.... The tires. That is where the car interacts with the road. TY MH

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mark it's funny but in the past I never really worried that much about triggers but then I stumbled across a couple of rifles that the triggers were really bad. At this point I think the weight of a trigger needs to be proportional to the weight of the rifle? A heavy trigger on a heavy rifle isn't an issue but a heavy trigger on light one sure can be.

  • @markhansen8078

    @markhansen8078

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving It makes sense to me. I try to keep the trigger pull on my rifles and carbines around 3-4#. Some are less.... around 2.5. I have a few 22 rifles and they are about 2-3# trigger pull weight. My favorite is a Marlin 981T. I put a Rifle Basix trigger in it. It is a tack driver. No squirrel safe with that rifle in my hands. lol... MH

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@markhansen8078 My FN49 has an extremely heavy trigger at about 8 or 9 lbs. I never realized it was that heavy until I measured it. You just don't notice it because the rifle is over 12lbs.

  • @markhansen8078

    @markhansen8078

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving It is interesting this subject came up when it did. I just purchased a set of various shaped honing stones to use on my rifles for polishing critical points.

  • @johnl5974
    @johnl59743 жыл бұрын

    Another nice thing about 22 is it's not so loud to annoy the neighbors. once or twice a week, i go outside and shoot 10 rounds, practice improvised hunting positions. Don't have to drive to the range either. Thanks for the video.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is a great point that I wish I had in the video!

  • @stephenland9361
    @stephenland93613 жыл бұрын

    At my local gun club, there is a designated range for rimfire. Over the years I've tried a large number of .22 rifles, from very inexpensive to high end German rifles from Anschutz and Walther. Besides fit and finish, the single most obvious difference has always been triggers. With some bargain basement rifles, the triggers felt like two pieces of rusty iron were grating against each other. Trigger pull was inconsistent, travel was a guessing game and accuracy suffered. Shooting offhand was always a pain. The "unconscious shot" was impossible. On the better rifles, like my own Krico for hunting and my Anschutz target rifle, triggers were fantastic. All were crisp, consistent and broke like the proverbial glass rod. When shooting my own .22's, I never even think about the trigger. I don't need to. I aim and the shot follows.

  • @user-bn3zo3mh5v

    @user-bn3zo3mh5v

    3 жыл бұрын

    Got a couple of those Mod 54 Anschutz with some Unertyl scopes to match. Good stuff for back in the day. Talk about friggin heavy! Can take a little Savage bull barrel in 17HMR and shoot as good or better for way less nowadays, but that's because the cartridge really. Dad used to show up to rimfire matches with the Mod 54s and people would start filing out. Dad would relent and use other stuff, or shoot person X's rifle against persons TUVWXYXZ and still win. They hate getting outshot with their own gun, hehe. In my 40 plus years I have never outshot him off hand. Many folks have told him that they can't shoot as well as him on a bench and him offhand. He is as good of a bass tournament fisherman as he is a shooter. Several times when the bass are not biting well, he has won 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and big fish,hehe ,when no one else had any fish big enough to weigh out of 30 boats. . He is an even better Dad than he is a shooter or fisherman ❤️

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Those details like the trigger all add up on the nicer rifles and that's why they cost more. You can modify less expensive rifles and upgrade them like I did but by the time you finish you would have been better off financially finding a good deal on a higher end rifle to start with.

  • @CuttingEdgetools
    @CuttingEdgetools Жыл бұрын

    I always and still regard the 22 rifle as a Handy tool. Lightweight. Breakdown capability. Iron sights. A survival Tool that doesn’t have to be pretty-just well designed and reliable. 2” groups at 50 yards. Just one example would be a Early Marlin papoose ! They are amazingly accurate and fit in a Day pack. If I’m going to scope a 22 rim fire sniper capabilities. Step up to something like a CZ 22mag. My brother picked up a old Winchester Bolt 24” barrel made 1960’. Nothing fancy but that plain Jane rifle shoots Dime size groups iron sights at 75 yards. That was 10 years ago. My eyes may not pull that of now, but I bet pretty close🇺🇸. I have found that 95% of the old 22 rim fire rifles from Mid 1930s thru Early 1960s are tack Drivers. If they’re not- then it’s Barrel is bad or sights jacked up.

  • @richardphelps5041
    @richardphelps50416 ай бұрын

    Savage- Winchester- all good little rifles

  • @kentowens2179
    @kentowens21793 жыл бұрын

    Good video. Nice shooting! You have a fine squirrel rifle there I have a AAA curly maple stock, with a shadow line cheek piece, for a 541, been on the lookout ofr a 581 like yours. LOL

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Kent. And I suspect that 22 of yours shoots as good as it looks, and that's saying something there.

  • @swkohnle08
    @swkohnle083 жыл бұрын

    Great video Tom. Nice shooting at the range. Your last video on having a set of hunting rifles and small game with a .22 got me to pick up my first .22. That was the Winchester 69a I mentioned in my comment to your last video. It has factory iron sights and is in great condition considering it’s probably 60 years old. Your comment about trigger weight makes sense for accuracy with a .22. All the guns in my collection have factory triggers as I always just adapt to the gun. But I checked the trigger on my Winchester after your video and it’s lighter than the weight of the rifle so probably good to leave that alone. I’m on the fence about whether to put a scope on this Winchester as I prefer shooting with iron sights. What do you think Tom? Should I reconsider? Thank you again for this great video series. Stay well.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    For me a scope really helps but that's because I can't see up close like I used to. Iron sights were all I needed on my 514 for many years. If your eyes are sharp and you enjoy iron sights then don't change a thing. And the best approach would probably be to just go hunting with it as is. If you ever find in the future that you had trouble making a shot at distance then you might want to consider a scope, but I doubt that will ever be a problem. Plus the iron sights really help with needing to make a quick shot like a rabbit on the run. I even used my 514 to shoot skeet years ago. I bet that's something I couldn't do with a scope!

  • @swkohnle08

    @swkohnle08

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving Thanks Tom. I’ll try squirrel hunting just as is.

  • @emmettperkins844
    @emmettperkins8443 жыл бұрын

    Hey Tom,I just ordered a Caldwell shooting rest just like the rest in your video. I’ve used different rest over the years but not as nice.Would you give viewers some insight of its stability and capabilities?Thanks.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    I will be happy to, And I just got a Protektor rear bag and tried that out this weekend. That bag was pricey for a bag which is why I waited so long to get one but it along with that rock is the moat stable platform I have ever shot of off. And I'll be talking about both in the next video.

  • @pawcrawlowens8730
    @pawcrawlowens87302 жыл бұрын

    I have a 581 and 582, and live them both

  • @johnnyellison9797
    @johnnyellison9797 Жыл бұрын

    I have a old Stevens 22 buckhorn have you heard of the rifle

  • @timmay1154
    @timmay11543 жыл бұрын

    Great content Tom. That range looks exactly like Candy Branch in Abbeville SC. You happen to be local?

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    I sure am.

  • @user-bn3zo3mh5v
    @user-bn3zo3mh5v3 жыл бұрын

    Partner, I just enjoy hearing you talk....,but especially when it's fun stuff. What gun is that? Marlin 782? I get my Marlins mixed up between my Glenfield 25, Marlin 783, 781, and Mod 60 I think it is. I know the 60 is a 22 auto, 781 I think is 22 bolt, Glenfield 25 is 22 bolt, and then the 783 I think is a 22mag bolt. Not pulled those out in many years, I just can't keep my models straight.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    This one is a Remington 581. I talked about it so much in the last video that I forgot to mention what it was in this one. And I'm the same way on getting my Marlin and Remington models mixed up. So many are so close to each other with this model being a single shot and the next being tube feed. It's hard to keep up with all of them.

  • @user-bn3zo3mh5v

    @user-bn3zo3mh5v

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving I don't know that I have ever shot a bolt action Remington other than a Mod 700. I like those 60s and 70s Remingtons in every model. They made some great stuff back then. If it's anything new I stick with Savage.

  • @cpprcrk1833
    @cpprcrk18332 жыл бұрын

    Is that a Remington 581 ? Reason I ask is because I have a 541-s , which is basically a deluxe 581 to my knowledge . I've owned mine since 1983 , a gift from my Papaw , and I think that the trigger is pretty good and I've never had any work at all to it . My only complaint is I wish it weighted about a pound and a half more to make standing shots easier .

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    2 жыл бұрын

    Congrats on the 541! Mine is a 581 and I would have put a 541 stock on it but those are hard to come by these days. I always thought the 541's weer just a great looking rifle. And if I'm not mistaken the 541 came with an adjustable trigger? And even if it didn't the extra weight of your stock would make the trigger pull not near as much of an issue. As light as your rifle is this one is even lighter because it doesn't have the walnut stock. And it's not so much that the trigger was that bad but that the rifle is so light with this beech stock and the trigger pull was actually more lbs than the rifle weighs. For me I've never been too particular about triggers but trigger pull weight as a percentage of rifle weight is important. This same trigger on a heavier rifle would be fine. And I have to say the new trigger on this one made a world of difference. With all of that said I do love it being so light when it comes to carrying it in the field hunting.

  • @travisrains3659
    @travisrains36593 жыл бұрын

    I made the mistake of letting my model 52 go for a nice profit. I now have a Ruger 77/22 stainless steel and boat paddle stock with a trigger job. Wonderful Rifle

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Those 77/22's are nice. I missed a great deal on a 77/22 with a wood stock not that long ago. I thought about whether or not to buy it for a couple of hours and by the time I decided to get it it was gone. Really nice rifles. As for the model 52, I guess you could call that one of my bucket list guns. I really hope to own one at some point in the future, but I don't think it will be any time soon! I've never shot one so I can't say it's the best 22 ever, but a lot of people I trust say they are and I want to find out one day.

  • @travisrains3659

    @travisrains3659

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving Winchester model 52s are the standard everything else is measured by. And I let mine go! My mistake but for what I use my 77/22 for it’s hard to beat!! 77/22 are AWESOME

  • @user-qi3fo9tz5g
    @user-qi3fo9tz5g9 ай бұрын

    The best out of the box 22 Remington was the 541S. At 50 yards it would shoot almost hole through hole and the trigger was the best I ever had in a 22. Remington stopped making them.

  • @justindavis4897
    @justindavis48973 жыл бұрын

    What trigger did you use? is it a Remington 788 trigger? did you have to modify anything more than stock?

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it is the 788 trigger and yes I did have to modify the stock. I had to remove some wood for clearance for the safety and do some fitting. If you're ok with wood working it's not to bad but other wise you might want to get a gunsmith to do the fitting?

  • @clapton924
    @clapton9243 жыл бұрын

    A nice trigger can make a big difference. 3-4lb is what I personally like.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    And that 3 to 4lb range is usually perfect for me to but I have a couple of rifles with much heavier triggers in the 6 to 8lb range that I don't mind at all. But those are both really heavy rifles. The factory trigger on this one was around 6lbs but the rifle is barley over 5 and thinking about this rifle and those heavy ones is what got me to thinking about the trigger pull weight as a percentage of the rifles weight. That 3 to 4lb range is generally about 1/2 the weight of most rifles. So I'm thinking a trigger at or just under the weight of the rifle it's on is right about where it needs to be?

  • @myparceltape1169

    @myparceltape1169

    3 жыл бұрын

    A few words in to your video and you have got me laughing. It's the idea of the trigger pull heavier than the rifle. And the thought of someone who knows no better walking along supporting his loaded gun with one finger through the guard. At the end of his walk the factory has ensured that he did not make a mess. Well OK for cartoon living, I suppose...

  • @davidsallee8584
    @davidsallee8584 Жыл бұрын

    I have an old Model 580 with an extremely heavy trigger

  • @dantyack1059
    @dantyack10595 ай бұрын

    i’m guessing that rifle is a 581.. inch had the same rifle when i was a kid 45 years ago.. i messed up the factory trigger trying to lighten it up and for some reason my dad had the barrel cut off and re-crowned at 18” …. like yours mine shot awesome.. but it was a very plain jane looking rifle.. not like the 541 which was really nice

  • @timothymcvay7286
    @timothymcvay72863 жыл бұрын

    Great video love my 541 T....

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    The 541's are nice! And I know that 541 T has to be a tack driver.

  • @timothymcvay7286

    @timothymcvay7286

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving it is..change my trigger out to. 2.5 lbs now big difference

  • @thomasshive3767
    @thomasshive37674 ай бұрын

    What trigger did you put on the 581? I own 2 of them.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    4 ай бұрын

    Thomas, it was the Timmey trigger for the Rem 541. I had to relieve some wood in the stock for the safety but it was a perfect fit on the action.

  • @craigleibbrand7761
    @craigleibbrand7761 Жыл бұрын

    The best twenty two is Weatherby or Browning T-bolt or automatic or leeever action.

  • @dalanwanbdiska6542
    @dalanwanbdiska65423 жыл бұрын

    My nephiew has a single shot cooey 22lr set for 100yards and it shoots perfect. I got me a mossberg 702 plinkster using iron sights and the 25shot magazine. The bullets Im using is cci quiet semi auto 45 grain lead bullet at 835 fps it says on the box. The bullets trajectory is set at 25 yards zero close and at 50yards far zero and thats how its set for close range gopher hunting. I might order a red dot sight

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've been wanting to try those quiet CCI's. You get a little more drop at distance but you see more squirrels making less noise.

  • @dalanwanbdiska6542

    @dalanwanbdiska6542

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes they are good for squirrels. Since im running iron sights i keep my close zero to 25 yards . If i had a quality scope id mount it and zero it at 75 yards.

  • @Thatblacksilverado31
    @Thatblacksilverado313 жыл бұрын

    i wish i had a range like this close to WNC

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've always been lucky to have this range close by. I grew up just a couple of miles away from it and every time I go there it's a trip down memory lane, literally.

  • @jimmieburleigh9549
    @jimmieburleigh95493 жыл бұрын

    Talking triggers do you prefer single or 2 stage triggers or do you really care?

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    I prefer 2 stage triggers in the field hunting but those are hard to come by these days. It seems like everyone has gone to single stage triggers. For me a single stage trigger is a target trigger and they do help you shoot smaller groups from supported positions like the bench or in the prone with a bipod. But from unsupported positions like most of the shots in the field I shoot much better with a 2 stage trigger.

  • @jimmieburleigh9549

    @jimmieburleigh9549

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving 👍

  • @JEbert-ez2wb
    @JEbert-ez2wb Жыл бұрын

    The 581 is an admirable little rifle. The triggers might be less than ideal but what really irked me is the crummy magazines. I sure wish someone made a decent, 4-5 round steel magazine for it. The rifle deserves a better magazine than the OEM junker. Nevertheless, I still have my 581 and use it more than any of my fancier rifles.

  • @creeker6422

    @creeker6422

    3 ай бұрын

    Ask on rimfire central. You will find a man there who manufactures steel magazines for the 581.

  • @michaelhubbard1711
    @michaelhubbard17113 жыл бұрын

    What would be a fair price for a 581 ? Enjoyed the video too! Thanks

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree wth Jeff about them being kind of hard to find now, but it seems like everything is kind of hard to find right now and expensive. I just checked Gun Broker and I saw a few but the prices have really gone up. It seems like I paid just a little over 200.00 for mine? I think 300.00 for one in really good shape would be a fair price right now but I'm not seeing what I would call fair prices on them at the moment. Once you start getting past 300.00 you're getting into a higher grade of 22's and there are so many great choices in that price range.

  • @michaelhubbard1711

    @michaelhubbard1711

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the recommendations and I’m certain they would all ..... I enjoy fixing up the older ones I’m an old varmint hunter coyotes and ground hogs . I looked these 581 rifles up they were built later in the 60’s to 1999 . I enjoy finding some of the old 511’ s and matching a hobby . Takes too long for me to type but I

  • @michaelhubbard1711

    @michaelhubbard1711

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jeff Scuderi Thank you Sir, I don’t know what neck of the woods you’re at in this Great Country May stop by the place if I’m ever out that way ! I enjoy the older ones then I’ll get it pretty good shape and sell or trade for another . Don’t ask me why I generally lose money on them . I just like piddling with them .

  • @michaelhubbard1711

    @michaelhubbard1711

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tennessee

  • @dalanwanbdiska6542
    @dalanwanbdiska6542 Жыл бұрын

    What kind of trigger did you get. And can I order 1?. you canadian?

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    Жыл бұрын

    Dalan it's a Timney trigger. It's for the 541 but the 581 and 541 are the same rifles the 541 just has a better stock. And you will have to relieve a little wood in the stock to make room for the safety.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    Жыл бұрын

    And nope, I'm a long way from Canada! LOL South Carolina.

  • @comodice905
    @comodice90515 күн бұрын

    Bloke that's the perfeckt glizzey fir chummin

  • @Josef_R
    @Josef_R7 ай бұрын

    9:45 Finally names the gun.

  • @hammerheadms
    @hammerheadms3 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing that rifle is between 6-7lbs.? Man... I cannot imagine trying to shoot a .22 off hand with a trigger heavier that that. Looking sweet now though.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's 5lbs 4oz and the trigger was around 6lbs. I have a target rifle with a 6lb trigger that shoots great but it's a 13lbs rifle and that's what got me to thinking about the trigger pull weight as a percentage of the weight of the rifle. It seems like any trigger around half of the weight of the rifle is perfect. A 3 or 4lb trigger on 7 or 8lb rifles is perfect. A 6lb trigger on a 13lb rifle still works well. But a 6lb trigger on a 5lb rifle was not working so well.

  • @hammerheadms

    @hammerheadms

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving for sure. I can't imagine trying to snap off a quick shot under those kinds of conditions. I really like what you've done with that gun. That shot group is short of only perfection, but I don't expect any of us would ever have the shooting acumen of the Almighty. Fine work, sir👍

  • @snipermezzakat5707
    @snipermezzakat57073 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍😎😎😎

  • @lonnieanderson8495
    @lonnieanderson84956 ай бұрын

    Anshutz is a accurate 22 thats hard to beat.

  • @BigT27295
    @BigT27295 Жыл бұрын

    Dang She's a ringer..

  • @ranchodeluxe1
    @ranchodeluxe15 ай бұрын

    Well. Since Model 52 Sporters are $3000 now. Ya.

  • @johnwilburn8319

    @johnwilburn8319

    4 күн бұрын

    Yes ain't that a joke!

  • @ranchodeluxe1

    @ranchodeluxe1

    4 күн бұрын

    @@johnwilburn8319 Cruel joke in that I can't afford one.

  • @kenlansing1216
    @kenlansing12163 жыл бұрын

    Is that rear sight missing? . . . Heresy!

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is missing. It was missing when I bought it. I thought about getting a replacement but I want to get this scope a little lower and I suspect that rear sight would interfere with that?

  • @kenlansing1216

    @kenlansing1216

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TomRiverSimpleLiving It might. But woe betide the man that tore it off. I have this thing about rifles-- I think every one should have iron sights at least as a backup. My own eyeballs are no longer in the bloom of youth and in recent years I find myself driven by necessity to use scopes. With the BRNO's and CZ's I shoot the long bolt throw forces me to mount the scope high anyway. Cheapskate that I am I buy mostly used scopes, some are long and some short, often enabling me to mount them so the front bell comes down ahead of or behind the rear sight. Everyone needs to do what works out best for them. But the fact you were looking for a replacement sight shows your heart is still in the right place.

  • @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    @TomRiverSimpleLiving

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kenlansing1216 I'm definitely of the same opinion on iron sights and I had to laugh when I read your comments. A friend called me not long ago and said he saw a rifle that he knew I would like. He knew I would like it because it had iron sights and he knows just how much I appreciate a fine rifle with good iron sights. That was one of the reasons I couldn't turn down that Winchester Westerner when I bought it.

  • @michaelbradford114
    @michaelbradford1149 ай бұрын

    Steve I have a 510 targetmaster it will drive nails at 100 yards

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