“Throws stick” “Run away” “Refuse to elaborate”

@samtheman3633

Жыл бұрын

Gigachad

“Soldier what battalion are you with” “153rd Harassment Corps, Sir!”

@lilpink8463

Жыл бұрын

165rd annoying spec op sir

AKA the "yeet" infantry

@tio884

Жыл бұрын

Truly a formidable opponent

@howdycrusader355

Жыл бұрын

The YEETfantry

Infantry:Use looser information to avoid javelins Cavalry: hello good afternoon gentlemen 😊

@HumanoidEyeball

Жыл бұрын

poke horse with pokey thing

@dragon12234

Жыл бұрын

@@HumanoidEyeball To be effective howerver that forces you to bunch up again. It was really a rock paper scissors: Loose Formation to beat ranged troops, Tight and Deep formation to beat Cavalry, but you can only be in one at a time.

@martytu20

Жыл бұрын

The saddle tree weren’t invented yet and horses were still too small for shock use.

@Ariaelyne

Жыл бұрын

​@@martytu20Phillip II and Alexander both used shock cavalry against loose formations. It wasnt impossible at the time.

@_unknown123.

Жыл бұрын

​@@martytu20Nubian cavalry literally not use saddle...And they are still effective for 4000 years

Feel like these guys are the absolute chads of foot soldiers

@MarcusVance

Жыл бұрын

They were well regarded

The ancient equivalent of farting and walking away.

@PedroOozeMan

Жыл бұрын

💀

This is part of the reason why i love the Age of Empires games. They are historically accurate and introduce you to different classes of soldier that you might never otherwise encounter.

If a particular unit forces a general to change strategies its worth talking about imo

In mount and blade banner lord since I tend to mix my armies units for maximum efficiency and to ensure a well rounded army , I will have peltists and crossbow men as well as horse archers and heavy cataphracts all mixed about so there are some who still appreciate them 😂😂😂

@Scoottheboot670

Жыл бұрын

What units do you use for javelin throwers? I've not come across any so far.

@guyunknown6224

Жыл бұрын

@@Scoottheboot670 i usually use the hastati from the legion of the betrayed faction for the empire but since they’re mercenaries they can be expensive but essentially you wanna look in your army menu and you can further breakdown your units into groups such as heavy infantry and the like and there’s specifically one for skirmishers and so I look at what my units have and put them into their appropriate grouping . For the skirmishers as normal you want lightly armored units with good athletics , throwing , if you can find any hastati , the aseri have skirmishers for their regular archer line and the sturgians do too I think for the regular soldier line and the khuzaits, aseri , battania and the sturgians all have units that use javelins but I forget the specific ones other than the few I mentioned

@guyunknown6224

Жыл бұрын

That fit the role of skirmishers better than using legionaries or anything else that costs more money and supplies

@Scoottheboot670

Жыл бұрын

@@guyunknown6224 thanks that's quite helpful, i recently got bannerlord after playing warband for years so everything is still very new

@guyunknown6224

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@@Scoottheboot670 you’re welcome and it’s no problem , I started on fire and sword so I understand completely plus it genuinely doesn’t mention that there’s more sub groups for you to allocate units into

Is that where we get the word pelt from? As in to throw things at someone. “ she was pelted by the snow”

@ydem1se

Жыл бұрын

Ultimately yes! It is thought to derive from Proto-Indo-European “*pel-“, which has several meanings, two of which are relevant here. The first is “skin, hide, cloth”, which is where the word peltast comes from, given than their shields were covered in hide. In Latin, “pellis (hide)”. πέλτη (pelte) means small leather shield in Greek. The other is “to strike, beat” which, through Latin “pellō (I strike)”, becomes the English verb “to pelt”. So while the two words come from different Greek and Latin terms respectively, they ultimately still come from the same root!

A personal favorite of mine! Large stick go thonk!

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The Spartans disliked this.

@danielmyers-cowan3416

Жыл бұрын

The Spartans regularly used the skiritai which were pretty much exactly this. They even used then to hold flanks.

@CountKibblesNBits

Жыл бұрын

@@danielmyers-cowan3416 I know, just shitposting while referring to the Battle of Lechaeum.

Me playing Bannerlord, Mounted Javelin Skirmisher every single playthrough even as a Khuzait. I don’t need no bows

I'd add that peltasts were the best counter to war elephants in the ancient world. A tightly-packed infantry formation is very likely to panic and rout in front of a charging elephant, and rightly so, because if they stand their ground they'd get steamrolled. Better to have very loose bands of skirmishers giving ground, running around them and peppering them with missiles until they panic and run back the way they came.

Finally he praises the type of unit I play as in medieval games

Lately I've taken an interest in them as well as other light troops such as velites. Also I've been fascinated by wicker shields. I read somewhere that while crescents were best known, some had ovoid shields. Can you talk about wicker shields in general, from pelte to sciathe?

Marcus, could you cover Merrin’s knife/staff from star wars jedi survivor?

Yeah, I have to agree. Really, Javelins, Slings, and other ranged weapons of the Classic Antiquity age kind of have a bad reputation because they aren't as good as bows and crossbows.

@MarcusVance

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but they were effective enough to be used alongside those for thousands of years.

@mkdemigodzillawarrior

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcusVance Yeah. I guess you can blame Deadliest Warrior, at least partially.

Hit and Run Assault infantry

They came back with the cowboys arguably

When did javelin throwers fall to the wayside? Artwork shows them being very common into the Renaissance.

@dragon12234

Жыл бұрын

They never fully dissappeared, but they became more and more niche as other ranged options became better, like the crossbow and eventually the gun as a common soldiers alternative to the longbow which required lots and lots of training. And being light skirmishers on foot made them very vulnerable to cavalry (funnily enough, IIRC at least in Spain, many javelin throwers would mount up and start to serve as javelin throwing light cavalry). So tl;dr they became part of heavy infantry formations or became light cavalry in pitched battles.

I can see some really interesting similarities between this and skirmish tactics/jäger troops in the pike and shot era

L advancements in military technology W specific niches exposing weaknesses in established tactics

So that's where "pelting" comes from!

These are basically genji mains. Annoys enemy team, gets hit once, run away

I guess this is where the verb pelting came from

These guys were greek anti-archer units in Age of Mythology

Don't forget that the peltast was the shield and not really the javelin thrower,its just that many start using the peltas because it was light and well,its a shield, it offer protection against enemy skirmishers.

Oh, hey, an Age of Mythology unit! They were classed as counter-archers, though. Ranged units in that game do extra damage against infantry normally, and less damage against cavalry. It was a rock/paper/scissors type system. Of course, get ENOUGH archers, and you could mow down most cavalry formations in short order.

And don't forget the war darts!

Peltasts are really cool.

Age of wonders 4 basically has them as the skirmisher units

You like the accuracy of the arrow, with that nice personal feeling of shoving sharp stuff into those hethens? B O O M, javelins.

So basically a younger sibling running up and poking you then running away

Centurii draws them as little dog girl.

I think chivalry two does a good representation of them

If javelin throwers are called peltasts Then the post apocalypse upgrade would be the "Yeeters" and throw more than just throwing spears, things such as throwing sticks, throwing knifes, shrunkens, chakrams, flexible metal plates (throw them like cards), darts, ect The yeeters will devastate the wasteland battlegrounds

You need to do one about Zulu impi's under Shaka

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I need to look this up but sometimes with these things it’s harder to find, question being were they named that for the same reason we use the word pelt, or, do we say pelt because of them

They should wear fur Yknow, for the pun

I wonder if that’s where the word for being pelted comes from

Total war player here....I used em as fodder

Ah the Peltis, my favorite as it is the start of mix tactic warfare, specifically most wars were fought via shield struggling, however the Peltis is "I have spear, I shorten spear, no formation, only shield and spear, huh yeet" And thus nations said "damn these guys are kicking our asses, get the bows". I can go on but better to stop there. Oddly fucking enough, the Peltist is a powerful range unit in a game called Age of Mythology, if you played any Age OF game you understand a basic counter system, Peltists historically were used against basic infantry, in the game they counter Archers..... I guess less armor and such... I am gonna chock it up to more developed militaries.

Is this the origin of the word pelting? 🤔

What about the slinger?

Wow rome total war

They made the Spartans surrender in a battle. That should tell you a lot about them.

Amazon speck for lighting javelin.

Yeah, buddy- all it takes to break a cavalry charge is one horse getting killed. A javelin can fly as far as an arrow, while being far deadlier. Nice highlight on these skilled- and incredibly brave- soldiers. They were like Knights on a chess board- attacking from an unexpected direction.

Becuace nobody takes time to learn history they think what they are told in school is history when its not 😂😂😂

They're basically lance cavalry without horses... man, warfare really is often about harassing the other side

Skirmishers from aoe

Oh? So dps?

Cough cough"horse archers did it better"cough cough

Velites is better