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@Seyfudin

3 жыл бұрын

Do one about the slingers of Rhodes, their slings were made of leather and animal tendons. According to Xenophontes they were the only ones who's range surpassed the composite bows of the Asian peoples.

@vanivanov9571

3 жыл бұрын

Invicta, there's something wrong with the math at 5:40 . You can't launch a projectile 400 meters at a mere 100 km/h. It'd land 80.2 meters away. You'd need 2.25 times the velocity, and a 45 degree angle.

@lahabitaciondelatrapado4621

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanivanov9571 remember the projectile might glide

@InvictaHistory

3 жыл бұрын

@@vanivanov9571 thanks I believe I got the speed figure wrong here

@SimonAshworthWood

3 жыл бұрын

@Invicta One of the videos on that list shows up to me as a "private video" and I can't view it. Is that intentional?

My grandmother kept herself and her siblings fed during the great depression using a sling to kill pigeon and squirrel. She still could do it in her 60s. Rip big red.

@oliviermosimann6931

3 жыл бұрын

Wow. Unusual anecdote. Thanks.

@amelveambitzya3592

3 жыл бұрын

Incredible grandma

@dustinb1070

3 жыл бұрын

She started by the age of five if my memory is still good.

@3asianassassin

3 жыл бұрын

Learn it buddy, pass it on

@medotaku9360

3 жыл бұрын

What a Stacey.

> fought naked > spent 100% of money on women and booze > wrote "ouch!" on projectiles I think we found Chad's ancestors

@queldron

3 жыл бұрын

The "ouch" is from Greeks. Specifically Rhodian slingers. We found also words like "take that" etc from them too.

@Graymenn

3 жыл бұрын

@BarryHallSack everyone spends money on women either directly or indirectly

@jamesreuben5430

3 жыл бұрын

@@Graymenn Most women can take care of themselves dude. If a bitch scams u that's ur problem

@Graymenn

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesreuben5430 you are so dumb it hurts, almost every woman I have been on a date with, and there have been quite a few, has expected me to pay the bill wherever we go, and the ones that didn't make a fuss over it showed body language of resentment over the fact they paid money.

@Graymenn

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesreuben5430 not to mention your tax dollars going toward abortions, birth control pills, and maxi pads.... fool

"Not as clumsy or random as a bow; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.”

@dubuyajay9964

3 жыл бұрын

The Stone Age. 🥁

@jmsunday

3 жыл бұрын

General Kenobi

@sunjasonjb2773

3 жыл бұрын

Would love Ahoy doing videos on more ancient weapons (other than the bow)

@auradzrts691

3 жыл бұрын

Legatus Kenobi

@jganderson3

3 жыл бұрын

Hello there

Balearians then: Throws epic stones Balearians now: Throws epic parties

@justinkennedy3004

3 жыл бұрын

Throws epic parties, while stoned

@lunaschibor5

3 жыл бұрын

Wait u mean the 17th state of germany? Ye we throw epic parties

@mogambo2445

3 жыл бұрын

@@lunaschibor5 as long as you let us overcharge you with the drinks prices, you are welcome in here!

@scintillam_dei

3 жыл бұрын

Balearics were awesome when they weren't poisoned with liberalism.

@havokbaphomet666

3 жыл бұрын

@@scintillam_dei wtf that even mean

The virgin sharpened steel blade crafted by the best blacksmiths vs the Chad rock

@ashina2146

3 жыл бұрын

Slingers, or a Military ones, uses Crafted Sharpened Lead Pebbles, which makes the Shot from a Slinger more dangerous. If I remember Correctly, the Ammunition for Elite Slingers is often shaped like a Guitar Pick, but bulkier.

@danielboyas7645

3 жыл бұрын

Only cowards fight at a distance. Real men get in real close in GLORIOUS MELEE

@kly8105

3 жыл бұрын

@Klaidi Rubiku And by roman chads you know, like Biggus Dikus, Naughtious Maximus.

@kirbthe7

3 жыл бұрын

O U C H

@SonsOfLorgar

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashina2146 lead ammo for slings look more like an egg sized american football, they are called "glandes"(testicles) for a reason...

Some points people don't often talk about when discussing slings. 1. Put into modern context a lead slug from a sling is slower but would have the same kinetic energy as a modern .38 special revolver. Not exactly overwhelming compared to a modern rifle but still more than enough to kill someone. 2. Slingers were exceptional skirmishers in loose order but weren't as good for massed volleys as archers could essentially stand shoulder to shoulder for massed fire while slingers need to be spaced out to spin the sling. An archer could also fire through a narrow slot in a defensive wall while a slinger would have to expose himself for a second or two to fire. 3. A slinger didn't have to be as strong as an archer because spinning the sling required finesse but not as much muscular development as an archer trying to draw a 100 pound draw weight war bow. This meant they could still be effective even if they were tired from hunger or from a long march. 4. When you spin a stone in a sling, when it is released, it won't go in a straight line but will continue to curve slightly as it travels. Learning to judge where to release the sling so the stone will impact at a certain range would have taken enormous experience, hence why the Balaeric islanders started training from a young age. 5. All though I haven't seen any evidence to support this idea it's interesting to note that ancient soldiers always wore greaves to protect the shins and knees while, when "3/4 armor" was used during the medieval and early Renaissance period (when slings were seldom used), they usually didn't bother with the greaves. A slung stone to the bony part of the shin or knee (insert Skyrim joke here) would have taken a infantry man out of the fight just as easily as getting a kill.

@RKarmaKill

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting

@mastercharlesdiltardino8058

3 жыл бұрын

I personally wander if a person can be trained to use a sling at a later age if they had a good teacher, just like a teacher can Improve an athletes performance by analyzing what they do incorrectly and giving them pointers. Yes a person needs alot of practice but it's easier to become proficient at a skill with a teacher

@carloreytansiongco8741

3 жыл бұрын

I wish this was in the video. Very informative man :)

@Leo137156

3 жыл бұрын

Very good points, Silver John, but let me just add my own experience. I was a slinger since I was a boy, self-trained, and I think I was very good at it. I lived in the countryside, so i would go to hilltops and other places where I would not hit anybody or anything other than targets. I made my own slings with about a meter long double strings joined by a leather thong. The strings ended in a loop for one of my right-hand fingers and a nut for the right hand so I could release the stone when wished, at the proper time. As you mention, the stone travels in an arch, so it has to be released at the right time to hit the target. Now, given that targets can be farther than 400 meters, in my case, I had to practice releasing it sort of at the same time every time because it is very difficult to time it otherwise, since the target is so far. With this I mean that one moves his own body position but leaves the release timing unchanged and sees where one hits because a tiny change in timing can send the stone off the target. In other words, at short distances you need practice releasing the stone (timing it) because you can hit the target even if your timing is a bit off (kind of like a bowman at 100 meters), while at long distances you don't change the timing, you change your body stance slightly and see where you hit. I would shoot so far with stones the size of a golf ball that I would loose track of the stone and would have to listen for the impact. It was a lot of fun. I still have my sling. Maybe I have Balearic genes, lol, since I am of Spanish descent.

@Zamolxes77

3 жыл бұрын

.. then I took a lead ball to the knee !

Billy the Kid: I'm a gun slinger. Balearic the Kid: Why would you throw your gun away?

@Cleeon

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, the poor and fool Billy

@Daniel_Fo77

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cleeon Be kind. He’s just a kid.

@Cleeon

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel_Fo77 hmm... Sure. Now, i want to watch one of Billy the kid movie

@estradamurcielgo175

Жыл бұрын

@@Cleeon Check out Old Henry

@Cleeon

Жыл бұрын

@@estradamurcielgo175 ok, thank you, will check it 🙂

I'm so happy we live in a world where this type of content is freely available, and is becoming increasingly popular.

@outsidechambaz

3 жыл бұрын

Just letting you know, don’t take all these history videos as fact but more of a depiction of what we believe things were like in ancient times.

@Shinypiggy101

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I enjoy videos like this a lot 😂

@lynchinjesus

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully one day people watch this instead of tic tok dancing and self absorbed narcissists staring at themselves.

@lynchinjesus

Жыл бұрын

@pondteal no shit huh? I tried going back to school and so many classes were a waste of time. They are mostly selling a paper degree at this point.

@benoliver5593

Жыл бұрын

The Emperor said learn for the job you want.

Who would win? >A soldier from the most effective military force of all time with heavy armour and exceptional training and discipline >a dude with a rock

@michaelweston409

3 жыл бұрын

Classic case of David vs Goliath.

@IncognitoUnknown-fc2tu

3 жыл бұрын

Ye, read the Bible

@erenrager6679

3 жыл бұрын

@Bernie Rubber We're talking about a dude here with a huge shield and a javelin or two, if he (slinger) stays out of his (Roman boi) range then it might end up with a tie, unless the slinger's ammunition can actually penetrate a shield in that range.

@omarivanmayorgaalvarado860

3 жыл бұрын

@Bernie Rubber not at all you must remember that a roman could catch up with them as long as the roman was trained at jogging for at least 30 mins and the light units were trained at running quickly, but that is all you can't keep this running even if you are light if you are not properly trained and even so you have to slow down. That is why caesar defeated the numidians, many other generals didn't get it, but caesar did and that's why he trained his soldiers to move simultaneously, when to attack, when to chase, when to array a testudo. Even in single duel a heavy infantry can defeat the light infantry, but you have to know how

@SnekNOTSnake

3 жыл бұрын

It all depends. We'll make it that they're both well fed, well rest, and in an even terrain to fight one on one. If both warriors know they are dealing with a single opponent, what is their opponent's weapons and gears, and how good are their opponent's fighting style, the heavy armoured guy might be in an upper hand considering he has a lot of experience and options. For example, knowing his opponent is a slinger he'll realize it's useless to try to fight him hand to hand since his opponent would just avoid the fight. Instead he can use other missile weapons. if that's prohibited, then he can just sheathe his sword and throw back rocks. It wouldn't be as strong as slingers but it still do serious damage to an unarmoured man. While he can keep his big shield protecting his entire body.

Poor Goliath, still humiliated after getting killed by a lethal weapon

@scintillam_dei

3 жыл бұрын

The proud belong on the ground with their face planted.

@BoredLyron

3 жыл бұрын

Having made and used slings a bit, how I view the David vs. Goliath story is the same as the classic scene in the first Indiana Jones, where Indy just shoots the guy with a sword. It's more of a comic relief than anything else.

@boulderbash19700209

3 жыл бұрын

My elementary teacher once showed us a sling. She used tennis ball for the bullet and threw it accross basketball field. The children were "Wooaah.."

@junhyunglee6744

3 жыл бұрын

@@boulderbash19700209 man, didnt it break anything? I would be dead scared if i happened to be the one demonstrating the sling in gym(would happily show if it is outdoor court hehe)

@boulderbash19700209

3 жыл бұрын

@@junhyunglee6744 It's just tennis ball, it won't break anything in gym. I guess it would hurt if it hit right in the face though😓

In Rome: Total War the Baleric slingers have a damage total of like 18 when the best archer units early in the game had something like 12. Goes to show how reputable they were

@godking

Жыл бұрын

Baleric slingers and cretan archers where the best long range units to have

@ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance

Жыл бұрын

@@godking yeah but due to the missile trajectory you couldn't place Slingers behind infantry without them taking out the rear rank with every volley. Also if I'm not mistaken in the game they actually made a distinction between Baleric slingers and Rhodian Slingers which was cool.

@alternator7893

Жыл бұрын

@@ProvisionalPatrioticAlliance that’s funny and ironic considering that a sling has a longer range than a bow irl.

@whowoulge1256

Жыл бұрын

@@alternator7893 it’s not about range it’s about trajectory, slings would shoot their projectiles quite low and thus would hit your infantry that were in front whereas archers/peltasts would shoot over

@chaabraaah5823

Жыл бұрын

So glad someone said this. I love total war. Literally on my troy campaign with Odysseus just this morning, his entire army is specialist with javelins, slings, and archery. Love it.

Had Goliath realized that kids who had to watch their families’ herds and flocks would spend their time practicing slinging stones, he would have remembered he had an appointment at his hairdresser.

Balearic slingers, Numidian cavalry and Iberic scutarii are probably the most famous mercenary troops from the Carthaginian army that later served as Roman auxiliary

@nickxenikakis2724

3 жыл бұрын

Alexander preferred Cretan archers during his expedition in Persia. They proved to be exceptional units indeed. He would often screen them with his cavalry and then reveal them when the enemy's cavalry would charge so he could decimate their units. Crucial was the Thesalian cavalry as well. Many Hellenic city states used Thracian warriors as mercenary forces as well famed for their ferocity and their onslaught capability.

@cquiroz7874

3 жыл бұрын

Hell, the Romans basically took the equipment of the scutarii and made it into the default equipment for their infantry. Them Iberians didn't get enough appreciation for the influence they had on the Roman army.

@AnindyaMitraDigitalStoryteller

3 жыл бұрын

But not the most numerous. Hannibal's Gallic soldiers probably outnumbered these many times over

@shaolindreams

3 жыл бұрын

I always love to have some specialized regional units when i play my strat games. Gives you their expertise and another option in your army. Even us Greeks were sometimes mercenaries.

@AnindyaMitraDigitalStoryteller

3 жыл бұрын

@@shaolindreams Famously so. Greeks fought on both sides of the Greco-Persian conflicts after all

When you trained for 20 years just to become an expert swordman/spearman And you just got hit by a rock on your first battle

@jimzimmer2048

3 жыл бұрын

its more like 8 month's

@tomas19958

3 жыл бұрын

Similar to pirrus of epirus.

@cbrtdgh4210

3 жыл бұрын

​@Hoàng Nguyên the far eastern crossbow was invented in China.

@wahlex841

3 жыл бұрын

Granted, the rock thrower also trained for 20-something years.

@Anglo_Browza

3 жыл бұрын

20 years? They prob treated as adults at 12 and dead by 45

I love the fact that even back then we were writing funny messages on our projectiles.

@oliviermosimann6931

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, same here :)

@Sergei_Ivanovich_Mosin

2 жыл бұрын

You should look up some of the graffiti found in Roman bath houses, a lot of it wouldn't look all that out of place in a modern internet forum. Humans really haven't changed all that much over the years.

Ah, the sling. Probably the most underrated/overlooked weapon in history. I would very much appreciate it if movies, novels, games, comics, or whatever medium could show them for once. If you look at the enitre history of the human being, the sling has to be one of the most used weapons in history. Very easy and cheap to make, not that hard to use with decent effectiveness, and very easy to carry. A similar thing happens with the atlatl, btw.

@JamesWillmus

Жыл бұрын

The best ancient weapons of war are too often overlooked. The spear is very deadly on the battlefield. Add some fletching and a spear thrower (atlatl) and you've got a missile weapon that can pierce plate armor at 200 yards.

@kingghoul2324

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesWillmus I think you're severely underestimating the effectiveness of plate armor.

@JamesWillmus

Жыл бұрын

@@kingghoul2324 considering the Spanish themselves admitted as much, no I don't think I am. An atlatl hits with at least as much force as a longbow.

@kingghoul2324

Жыл бұрын

@@JamesWillmus I'm aware it's as powerful as a Longbow in a skilled wielder's hands, but as far as I know a Longbow couldn't pierce the breastplate used by the conquistadors which was built to try and resist or at least deflect musketballs from the era.

@JamesWillmus

Жыл бұрын

@@kingghoul2324 Actually, I do need to step back my claim a bit. Apparently, the men with Cortez mostly had lighter armor on them. Cortez himself and a half-dozen others had good plate armor, but the rest of the party were wearing mail and padded leather. The Aztecs mostly used bone points which were more than capable of piercing this lessor armor. The result was still quite devastating initially for the Spanish.

I'm from Menorca and in school we'd craft a sling and shoot tennis balls w it. Fun times.

@molybdaen11

3 жыл бұрын

Does the malorican females prefer the better shooter too?

@mhs9692

3 жыл бұрын

@@molybdaen11 Menorca not Mallorca

@bonefetcherbrimley7740

3 жыл бұрын

@@molybdaen11 That's actually really cool, tell me more!

@nomcognom2332

3 жыл бұрын

S'han de conservar les tradicions xD

@TonikirtasH

3 жыл бұрын

I am from Menorca too, and I did the same thing :)

I am from the Balearic islands and in some schools, you get to learn how to make your own slingshot from ropes, great fun! Also thanks for this video! It's amazing seeing your people get recognized! I'd love to see an Iberian units video with the mighty falcata! Cheers!

As I understand it, one of the things about recruiting troops from different places - was that these places tended to produce different kinds of troops - for a reason. The Balearic Islands didn't have a lot in the way of crops but one thing that thrives on rocky slopes - is - sheep and goats. So - they'd have their kids out there watching their flock and armed with a sling and a staff. If a wolf or some other predator - or thief - came along - the herd boy could address them with his sling. The thing was - that hardly ever happened, so mostly these kids were out there bored to tears. But - if they had a sling - they could pick up rocks and hurl them at stuff. Thus - these kids put in tremendous amounts of time with their slings - out of boredom - and as such, got very good. .

@BobSmith-dk8nw

Жыл бұрын

One problem I didn't mention was that slings are not that easy to use - accurately. For those who grew up on the hill sides watching their flocks - they might have ten or fifteen years (just guessing) of experience before as a young adult they'd go off to fight in someone's army. Arrows - also - required a good bit of training and there were places that required their militias to practice with their bows on a regular basis - but - the amount of experience that was required to use a bow - was much, much less than the experience those bored Sheppard Boys had gotten in their years of watching their flocks. With nothing else to do - they'd be slinging stones at Butterflies and Birds on the Wing. The thing was - if you didn't have access to slingers like that - it was easier to train bowmen. The important thing about the Cross Bow - was that you could *_AIM(!!!!!!!)_* it. That required even less training as all you had to do was look right down the body of your Cross Bow and release your dart. The thing that made the Cross Bows so deadly - wasn't their power - but - the fact that you could train and equip Cross Bow Men relatively easily. The other thing about that - is that if you lost them - Slingers were much more difficult to replace - as they mostly had to grow up with their slings. You couldn't just grab people off the street, give them a sling and expect them to do more damage to the enemy than they did to you. You could do that with a Cross Bow and a little training. Lastly, in the scenes where the two armies are fighting and one of them has slingers - that would probably not be the case. Both sides would have light troops - each doing the same job - just not necessarily with the same weapons. They might have slings or bows or javelins and their defensive protection would vary too. The first thing that would happen though - is that the light troops of both sides would engage each other. If one sides lights beat the other side and drove them off - then - they could missile the shit out of the other guys main force before their own main force engaged it. Because of the light troops trying to missile each other - they tended to have relatively open formations - which also let them try and dodge the enemy's missiles. The problem with that - was that Cavalry could just sweep through them like a lawn mower. So - you didn't want your light troops to be to far out and away from your main body. That way - if they were threatened by Cavalry - they could run back (possibly thru) their main body and be protected by them. They could then - if they could target them - launch their missiles over the heads of their main body as the main body put the butt end of their spears to the ground and put a foot on them - pointing a mini forest of pointy objects at the horses - who knew what pointy objects were ... and were not inclined to impale themselves on them. Each part of an ancient army had it's role to play and using each part to advantage while mitigating it's weaknesses was what generalship was all about. .

@sukaira9334

Жыл бұрын

@@BobSmith-dk8nw might I ask, what made you come back to this comment a year later?

@BobSmith-dk8nw

Жыл бұрын

@@sukaira9334 I had forgotten that I'd watched this video and watched it again. Then I noticed the old comment, re-read it - and realized that there were some things I'd left out. .

@prestonpierce6360

Жыл бұрын

@@BobSmith-dk8nw Beautifully said the sling was an amazing weapon, but you just can't beat accuracy at the end of the day.

@BobSmith-dk8nw

Жыл бұрын

@@prestonpierce6360 The thing was - it wasn't that slingers couldn't be accurate - it's just that they needed more time with the sling than an archer needed with a bow. to get that way. .

The “Catch this” and “Ouch” phrases reminded me of the things bomber crews used to write on their bombs before missions in WWII. It really is interesting to know that as history progresses, some things don’t change.

@jimbeam7636

3 жыл бұрын

"War, war never changes."

@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014

3 жыл бұрын

Balearic Pilots... with a Spanish Plane ✈️: Slinger Class haha 🤣

@jamesdettlaff9415

3 жыл бұрын

They should write on the bomb take home to mama crack with big hammer edible.

@josiahricafrente585

3 жыл бұрын

@Catch_Me_If_You_Can noice

You should've seen what they wrote on these "slingstones". Quite hillarious / cringy stuff. Like "Feel on that one", "Say hey to Hades for me". Etc.

@leeviajero2716

3 жыл бұрын

“For Pompey’s Backside!” “Take this!” “Be lodged well!” “Fruit for Dessert!” “This is a Hard Nut to Crack!” “Here’s a sugar plum for you!” And I am pretty sure that considering the general shape and size of bullets, some probably had jokes about testicles...

@themanwithallthewrongopini3551

3 жыл бұрын

Soldiers may have been bitter enemies, complete opposites, but boy did they always have the best messed up humor

@kawikalavin8353

3 жыл бұрын

How it it cringey. Them mofos killing people with the stones might always have more fun and put humor into it. It won’t be cringey when you get hit with it

@MelonPython

3 жыл бұрын

@@kawikalavin8353 Imagine the archeologist reading it 3000 years later, laughing at it

@vuivui4273

3 жыл бұрын

Goliath got the one said "Yahweh said hi"

I was raised in Ibiza, from the Balearic Islands. And one of the activities we did in middle school consisted on crafting our own sling with hay straws. They showed us how to shoot like those ancient slingers: spinning it sideways instead of over the head. It was disappointing to be shooting only tennis balls. But seeing how we sucked, they made the correct decision. Pd: I hated the strong smell of the hay. Pd2: I bet that our counterparts from Rhodes sucked even more. Hohohoh!!

@polapusta7467

3 жыл бұрын

But did you get the lunch anyway?

@mistakebustedcondomjohnson6736

3 жыл бұрын

Socio ya quisiera yo que me hubiesen enseñado en el colegio guerrilla clasica de primera mano en vez del course navette.

@rotciv1492

3 жыл бұрын

@@mistakebustedcondomjohnson6736 No se yo. Tuve esa honda durante años y siempre siguió oliendo igual de mal que el primer dia.

@Kruppt808

3 жыл бұрын

Venga Boys

@ikik1648

3 жыл бұрын

You guys should televise an annual dodgeball slinger game using the tennis balls, make it 50 vs 50, Ibiza vs Rhodes

When I was a kid we would go visit family in Mexico once a year for 3 weeks. Several of my cousins growing up on the ranch used leather slings for herding livestock and for defense. They were very accurate.

Even to this day, the Balearic slinger continues to hone his skills in the multiple battle fields of the grand slams. Its most prominent figure, Rafael Nadal, reaching throw speeds of more than 200 km/h.

Caesar had balearic slingers with him during his conquest of Gaul. He used them to stop the Belgae from crossings river to out flank him.

@thejackinati2759

3 жыл бұрын

He primarily got them because he was afraid of the Gallic slingers he was encountering. Especially those from the Nervii, who almost torched one of his forts because they were launching red-hot clay slingstones. So of course if you can't beat them in the rock throwing game. Then you Get the best rock throwers. Cue the Balearics, who not only like throwing lead for long distance barrages, they can also yeet fuck-off huge stones at frightening velocities too.

@boompa

3 жыл бұрын

@@thejackinati2759 , , , "

@nvmtt1403

3 жыл бұрын

@Evolve Project are you dumb?

@toddharig8142

3 жыл бұрын

@@nvmtt1403 GET HIM GUYS!

@henrycrum3018

3 жыл бұрын

Evolve Project Julius Caesar wrote a book. It is called De Bello Gallico - or Commentaries on the Gallic Wars. It is one of the most famous books from antiquity. Caesar describes his entire campaign in Gaul - almost no such books exist in history from the commander in a war. A confederation of Belgic tribes raised a massive Army to drive the Romans out of Gaul in the second year of the war. Caesar marched to confront them. During the Battle of Axona, the Belgae tried to out flank Caesar. They had to cross the Axona ( the modern Aisne River) Caesar sent Calvary and light troops, including slingers to repulse them. These troops succeeded in slaughtering the Belgae as they forded the river. You can buy Caesar’s can book on Amazon. This battle is described in book chapter 2.7 to 2.11. It is a great book. You will enjoy reading it. Of course get the English translation unless you can read Latin!

Awesome, I'm also doing a comparison of real life Baleric slinger versus Roman Archers (composite bow or self wood bow). We will be testing fire rate first and if people are interested and we have the budget, then we can test shields or armour.

@drewfranko3352

3 жыл бұрын

Shameless plug.... But yes I am interested

@steelths1781

3 жыл бұрын

@@drewfranko3352 I don't think it's shameless it's pretty related to the subject not just some random post on something completely unrelated

@dimesonhiseyes9134

3 жыл бұрын

Todd's workshop is doing and has already done a lot of testing with historical archery. His stuff focuses on medieval times period though.

@vanivanov9571

3 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to the sling test. Do you have a few types of slings?

@HistoricalWeapons

3 жыл бұрын

Dimes On His Eyes yes Tod does but he only mostly does medieval European archery . I prefer every period of history

I would love to see a video on the "black riders," a variety of German mercenaries from the 17th century, specifically deployed as mounted, armored pistoliers. The 17th century represents a bizarre transition between traditional and modern warfare, and the image of the black rider really embodies that.

@elgostine

Жыл бұрын

i mean, check out Sandhroman history, he covers early modern warfare extensively

Fascinating. I've been reading about Balearic slingers for 40-plus years in the accounts of ancient authors. It's nice to be able to put facts behind those passing references. Very well done; many thanks.

Really, really fascinating! I’ve always imagined a sling in David vs Goliath, as a slingshot, but that never really made much sense to me. This however, is very plausible to me. So interesting

@WisdomThumbs

3 жыл бұрын

Might’ve also been a staff-sling.

Just like the Numidian cavalry, Immortals or war elephants, the Balearic slingers were pretty good troops in a game from my youth: Praetorians. Thank you for the clips.

@xyAKMxy

3 жыл бұрын

They've remastered the game and now the Steam version works with modern screen resolutions

@samdumaquis2033

3 жыл бұрын

@@xyAKMxy interesting ! Thanks

@toddharig8142

3 жыл бұрын

Googled out of curiousity. Holy shit, i played that when i was like 6, i remember i got the gamespy demo when that was all the rage. Thank you, i have actually been looking for it.

@Eviligniter

3 жыл бұрын

Man, I love Praetorians.

@xyAKMxy

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad so many of you used to play and still love that game. One thing I always loved of that game was exploiting archers to burn villages down from a hill or forest as to cripple the AI's manpower.

The timing on this video was fantastic. A few days ago my seven-year-old wove a sling from para cord and has been working with it.

7:35 PARRY THIS YOU FILTHY CASUAL

I am from Mallorca (Balearic Islands) thanks for this amazing and enlightening video. We have always heard of the slingers but I had never seen such a detailed a great video on the topic. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Take care.

The next soldiers from history you should do the auxiliary syrian archers for Rome

@mostafamohy8494

3 жыл бұрын

Yes i would love to see thoese heavey armored archers, they had armor matching inf or in some cases better

@gabrielsa9751

3 жыл бұрын

I think the Cretan archers are way more famous and so probably would be covered before

@TheSunderingSea

3 жыл бұрын

Here are my predictions: Cretan Archers, Numidian Cavalry, Macedonian Phalangite, Thracian Peltast, Arab Mubarzin (Champions), various Steppe people w/ Horse Archery. Invicta has already done multiple videos on the Polybian legion from back when he was TBHE productions so I don't see that happening.

@mostafamohy8494

3 жыл бұрын

@Klaidi Rubiku yes nubians were bow masters since the ancient egyptian time , they were a king bodyguard even

@mostafamohy8494

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSunderingSea the arab mubarzin isn't different from other units they are people who voluntered to fight the other army champions , they arent a unit but a culture practice

9:02 That's a common misconception. David killed Goliath by beheading him with his sword. He used the sling to knock him out though.

This was an excellent, interesting, and informative lesson from history that I’ve never heard. Even in private school, where ancient history was very focused on.

Another thing to note, is that a sling in the right hands also has significantly more kinetic energy and momentum than can be achieved with bows (Yes even a 160lb Longbow). Coupled with much less strain, one can also sling full-power all day without any immediate or long term injury (In my experience anyway).

@pyrolight7568

3 жыл бұрын

That is comically not true. Maybe more Kinetic energy at short range but "momentum", amusing you mean "speed" of a sling is comically low compared to a long or composite bow. Also while they have a very debatable maximum range of 400 meters, they effective range was much shorter. Composite bows and longbows have a much longer effective range. They stuck around a lot longer in the west than in the Middle East due to the composite bow not existing in the west. By the fall of Rome they were basically being outclasses by other ranged weapon and armour.

@albionslinger8451

3 жыл бұрын

@@pyrolight7568 Luis Pons Livermore (one of the best slingers around) can sling over 250J, while an arrow loosed by Joe Gibbs with a 160lb longbow comes in ~130J. The stones Luis usually slings are around 250g, where as english war arrows come in at ~90g. Momentum for the warbow is about 5kgm/s, where as the slung stone is ~13kgm/s. Velocities of the sling are about ~60-100m/s with lead projectiles. 400m is actually a conservative estimate when using lead projectiles and I think most slingers can achieve that with practice. I've personally thrown glandes 300-350y (rough estimate) with a 27" sling, and I can see how a 36" would do a lot better. Sling projectiles spin stabalise point first, and have less drag than arrows (especially lead ones). Even stones have an effective range up to about ~250m. War-bows with war arrows simply cannot keep up with the sling in terms of terminal kinetic energy and momentum (at any range). The reasons behind the decline of use in warfare are entirely different.

@Hypernefelos

3 жыл бұрын

To follow that up with a historical example, when the Ten Thousand were trying to make their way home from Persia they were harassed by Persian archers. To counter them, the Greeks had their Rhodian hoplites fight as slingers, since they were also trained at that.They were able to keep the enemy archers away by outranging them with, I can only presume, sufficient accuracy to prevent them from wanting to come closer.

@lemons1559

Жыл бұрын

@@pyrolight7568 momentum is not speed. Momentum is speed times mass. It's slower than an arrow but a lot heavier.

I've been slinging most of my life , it's super fun to do with friends ,almost anyone who tries it loves it . It's really really easy to learn to make and use one ,. The caveat being that learning to hit anything smaller than a barn is a longgg process , but I highly recommend it .

@kennethflores93

3 жыл бұрын

Def was a fun thing to use and had no idea until much latter what they were used historically for. But i def got very good at picking off small objects with the thing and you learn timing.

@leeviajero2716

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, it is a blast- but I had to go a long way outside the city to practice. Even using a tennis ball, there is still a fairly long time before you can be reasonably certain just at what angle it is going to pop out...

@thedreadpiratewesley2301

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeviajero2716 lol oh yeah .. you definitely do need quite a bit of area to use it .. I just took living near the woods for granted I guess .

@thedreadpiratewesley2301

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeviajero2716 also it never occurred to me to try to use a large non lethal object like a tennis ball.. lol that seems rather big . But I'm gonna make a new sling and try it . Coincidentally golf balls are amazing to use , but they tend to fuuuuck up whatever they hit.

@steveaustin2686

Жыл бұрын

When you are told, "Good night Wesly. Good work. Sleep well, I'll most likely kill you in the morning.", everyday, of course you have to get better at whatever you do

I'm from Balearic Islands and I've been told this story when I was young

The most interesting and informative video I've seen on the tube in a while. Excellent stuff, thanks👍

Its crazy how such a simple weapon can cause so much damage. not to mention the fear of having to rush forward into that as a ancient soldier.

@danielboyas7645

3 жыл бұрын

Let me tell you about my pointy stick

@codysing1223

3 жыл бұрын

Let me tell you about my Shield. "The Emperor Protects"

@pewpewman._.3415

3 жыл бұрын

@@codysing1223 *Let me tell you about my bolt gun*

@MrZwartwit

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty scary stuff those lead stones.

And now you understand the origin of Rafa Nadal's left arm.

what a great message!!! thank you!

My younger brother has gotten himself pretty good with a sling. He has tried all sorts of ammo types and sling materials aswel as length. I can personally attest to the fact that these things are deadly.

@romaldomadrid3819

5 ай бұрын

What is the best type of sling and what is the easiest pouch to make

Slingers getting their due! I thought they were BS until I saw a demonstration. It's astoundingly powerful

@FoundWanting970

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao what did you think when you initially heard of them?

"Where is Jeff he needs to put some Latin on this sling projectile" Invicta: Just put OUCH on it lol Everyone "You god damn genius"

@alan_clough

3 жыл бұрын

Antifa are a bunch of jerks who prey on people's ignorance and amplify the divides in the country to cause instability so they can hurt people their underdeveloped moral compass allows them to. If they "won" they would have to cause massive suffering for people to then "See what they meant". The mean's create the mean's, and anytime you hurt another person or impose your will onto them it makes society a worse off place. That goes for the government also. Both sides have flaws and knowledge and wisdom applied correctly in place of fighting can bring about a lasting change!

@maarten9272

3 жыл бұрын

@@alan_clough I get your point but this is hardly the place to discuss politics.

@Maxcraft12

3 жыл бұрын

@@maarten9272 I don't even know what he wants, he must have no clue and think my profile picture refers to antifa which is downright stupid. It represents left unity but I agree this is no place for politics...

@maarten9272

3 жыл бұрын

@@Maxcraft12 I suppose it's because of the red and black colours. Obviously not the antifa flag though.

Amazing visuals, great content ✊👊

Superb documentary. Marvellous narration.

The food story is this: The mother take a piece of bread and put it on a stick in the ground, and tall the children that whom knock it, can take it. It's not for every meal, it's more like a game for a treat.

@vanivanov9571

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they ought to have presented that.

@poopsiepop4179

3 жыл бұрын

You know children would probably have lined up before the sticks and fired volleys, increasing the chance of hitting their dinners

@leeviajero2716

3 жыл бұрын

I heard it was not allowing them to eat it until they had knocked it off. Or as Strabo says, explicitly in "Geography (Book III, Chapter5)": "I say, or of hair or of sinews: the sling with the long straps for the shots at short range, and the medium sling for the medium shots. And their training in the use of slings used to be such, from childhood up, that they would not so much as give bread to their children unless they first hit it with the sling." Then again, he was probably repeating what others had told him, and was not a first hand witness.

Such a good idea for a video! This was a CRUCIAL part of war in Antiquity, and yet I never put much thought into it before this, beyond "they learned to sling by herding sheep!" Thanks for broadening our horizons once again!

I love this in-depth series about units. Please do more!

Watched this in the morning and by sunset I had made one sling, although quite amateurish it works! Thanks for the inspiration!

When Balearic Slingers from Ibiza drop the base there is no turning back.

@andrewwilson1975

2 жыл бұрын

But don't make the mistake of stealing them turntables or sound system in Ibiza, or you might get some tweaked out slingers on your trail.

You guys do an amazing job. There's very few channels on KZread or even documentaries on TV that are made to this quality. It's a real treat watching your content, I look forward to every upload.

Crazy! I never realized how good they were i thought they were a serious step down from archers

This is exactly what I wanted when trying to find a video. They had so much engineering that went into such a simple weapon I love it!

This makes me want to play a sling-based DnD character as a ranger.

@dicorockhimself

3 жыл бұрын

Lets buff up slings to make it make sense lol

@tinman1843

3 жыл бұрын

Try GURPS instead of D&D. I think it's a much better system & more flexible. Slings can do serious damage in GURPS.

@dicorockhimself

3 жыл бұрын

@@tinman1843 yeah gurps is great but it has a lot of bloat (like 3.5 did lol) so not every player will be able to grasp it

@crippledkitty863

3 жыл бұрын

Play fighter not ranger. Take archery fighting style. Go human variant and take sharpshooter at first level. Then take battle master or eldritch knight. If eldritch knight and intelligence is high enough take magic stone as a cantrip. If battle master with high intelligence take magic initiate at 4th level and take magic stone and find familiar. Familiar can use the help action to distract a target for advantage. Ranger hunter with sharp shooter would also be great though. Horde breaker makes it worth it. And multiclass into rogue for sneak attack.

@luisaymerich9675

3 жыл бұрын

@Ago KG ` Dungeons and Dragons, the fantasy table top game.

They're good, but I always try to recruit Cretan Archers for the range in *Rome Total War.*

@erenrager6679

3 жыл бұрын

Unless using DEI mod, their range there makes every offensive battle against a foe with the high ground trivial.

@michaelweston409

3 жыл бұрын

Cretan archers are god tier. They’re like artillery.

@huntermad5668

3 жыл бұрын

After recuting a patch, you need to wait like 8 turns for new units to show up. Also, if you play as Egypt or Gaul (Foresster warband FTW) or other factions with long range archer then you don't need them. The ones really need them are local Greek factions with terrible archer and Roman factions (not remember whether archer auxillaries get long range or not). through as Seleucid, you don't really need to use archers

@shorewall

3 жыл бұрын

@@huntermad5668 Roman factions reformed archers do get long range.

@SimuLord

3 жыл бұрын

"And his name shall be Julianus Vatinius."

Absolutely amazing content / information - thank you!

I'm so happy to see how far this channel has come and is thriving. I can't even remember right now what the channel was named before. Very happy for you, keep it up! One other thing: 7:09 Can this not be because they learnt (the practical version of) aerodynamics? Golf balls have indents in them so the wind/air will drag (yes, drag :) or push, if you want to push it) it further and thus gives it further range.

_Witty slingers, and all Greeks have wit, sometimes would etch into their stones words like "catch"_

@jack1701e

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh we've never changed have we? Writing messages like the picture of a ww2 soldier with a 'Happy Easter Hitler!' artillery shell to writing that on their sling bullets. I love this.

@Taistelukalkkuna

3 жыл бұрын

Or Roman writings "On its way to Pompeys arsehole" or "Hi Octavian you suck." In Latin of course, and in acronym.

@francogutierrez1793

3 жыл бұрын

@@Taistelukalkkuna where did you read that?

@Taistelukalkkuna

3 жыл бұрын

@@francogutierrez1793 Adrian Goldsworthy´s book. Either Complete Roman Army, or Roman Army in Battle, don´t remember which one.

@francogutierrez1793

3 жыл бұрын

@@Taistelukalkkuna ty

Don't forget, even Alexander the great of macedon also used these so called slingers as well and the unit called "peltast", he used them in support of the cavalry at the battle of gaugamela , you guys can check those out as well

The zoom in and out effects make it feel more scenematic. Thanks man

Sooo interesting. Thanks for this. Cheers from Italy.

When will the next part of the "what if Julius Caesar was never assassinated?" series be released?

When you realize that the legend of David and Goliath was just that scene from Raiders of The Lost Ark with the sword guy.

@WisdomThumbs

3 жыл бұрын

inb4 someone brings up that guy who misconstrued translations of translations to push his theory that Goliath was blind. Raiders of the Lost Ark is an apt comparison.

@Yingyanglord1

3 жыл бұрын

@Derreck Jones A sling exerts the same amount of force as .38 revolver. Golaith thought he was the shit as he was big and powerful why David had a weapon that was equivalent to a gun and had range on goliath.

@WisdomThumbs

3 жыл бұрын

@Derreck Jones A shepherd (re: lion shooter, hardass who lives outdoors, carries wounded animals for miles) shoots a man with a sword.

@theoharvey9236

3 жыл бұрын

Derreck Jones calm down dude it’s an apt comparison

@OCinneide

3 жыл бұрын

@Derreck Jones Why you being confrontational?

Thanks! Enjoyed.

Fascinating documentary. Subscribed to your channel.

What's next?!

@citycrusher9308

3 жыл бұрын

I always feel sad when places with cool ancient names (like Iberia) swap them out later for second rate names (like Spain)

@tonybologna551

3 жыл бұрын

Let’s learn about the greatest infantry unit of all time. EASTERN INFANTRYMEN. By far the unit with the best morale and definitely won’t break against peasants.

@99prozent49

3 жыл бұрын

Chariots please

@christyji5032

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine you are a veteran Legionaire,who survived many battles in melee combat and were skilled with a sword but you get killed by a simple stone

@alejandrorojasgarcia1614

3 жыл бұрын

Silver Shield Seleucid Empire

They were really Deadly! Great Documentary

@taulguedi637

3 жыл бұрын

Adam! When will you make an "homage" to the Balearic Islands? That would make me so happy!! So so happy... Take the sling again!! :)

@johnakridge2916

3 жыл бұрын

Nice seeing you here

Great video it's not often I come across a military subject I know so little about and am able to learn so much from a single video since I'm a huge military and ancient battles fan

Love this narrator, my favourite of the Invicta channel by far!

I think making a video detailing some of the more storied, or unique roman legions would be awesome. like Caesar's famous 10th legion. And i know about a legion being very skilled siege engineers. These specialized legions would be cool to go through!

Spartans: Noooo you can't just yeet a rock at our Hoplite Phoenicia: Haha rock goes burrr

@Vlad_Tepes_III

3 жыл бұрын

Won't rocks go whoosh, though?

@thessop9439

3 жыл бұрын

Spartan hoplites were pretty good slingers too. And their bronze hoplons were pretty tough. Ask the romans. Who became swiss cheese after meeting the balears...

Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.

Loving this series!! Great job!!

David only knocked Goliath down with a sling. Goliath was then killed with his own, massive sword by way of decapitation. David carried it around with him as a trophy.

@alexandredesouza3692

Жыл бұрын

"I didn't kill him, I just shot him. It was the bullets and the fall that killed him."

@garypautard1069

Жыл бұрын

I heard somewhere that it's thought David used a staff sling . Somewhere in the Bible it mentions David first went to a nearby river to find egg shaped stones . These worked better with staff slings.

@user-uq6bt8wc6j

8 ай бұрын

Wrong bud Goliath was dead b4 he hit ground cause Bible clearly says it sunk in his forehead

@genghisken0181

5 ай бұрын

David chose 5 stones because Goliath had brothers and a shield bearer who would have normally avenged his masters death so David planned to have to dispatch them all.

@MrBLions14

5 ай бұрын

@@genghisken0181 that's metal

Excellent presentation as usual ! This very important aspect of ancient warfare does not get mentioned often in most historical documentaries. Good references, clear explanations, and many different highly complementary aspects covered in a concrete and precise manner ! Gratias maximas INVICTA !

I just started making leather slings as gifts with a kids version available. People love them.

I loved this. Fascinating.

"Balearic slingers spent most of their income on women and wine". Of course! They're from Ibiza, Spain. They're party animals. 🤣

@Taistelukalkkuna

3 жыл бұрын

Going into Slingers Clubs. Groovy baby.

@Kruppt808

3 жыл бұрын

Hey were going to Ibiza, hey back to the islands, hey were gonna have a party, in the Mediterranean Sea!

@spudpud-T67

3 жыл бұрын

I thought I was at a slingers party but everyone was sharing their husbands and wives.

@syariefdirgantara7670

3 жыл бұрын

Boobs & booze is always a most valuable dope 😂

@Seth9809

3 жыл бұрын

They have the spending habits of pirates, oddly enough.

I heard slingers were also used against parthian cataphracts

@TealWolf26

3 жыл бұрын

I call them ranged maces.

@poopsiepop4179

3 жыл бұрын

@@TealWolf26 ranged right hooks but a ranged mace is pretty hardass!

@ringofasho7721

3 жыл бұрын

They both do +10 bonus damage to infantry

@oliviermosimann6931

3 жыл бұрын

And ex wives.

Outstanding video

Great video. Slingers were a very underrated unit of antiquity. I would love to see a similar video about the Rhodesian slingers.

Glad to know that people back then process the power of humour.

I use the slings often. I have also improvised on in the use of throwing a spear, without using an atalatl thrower. There's so much in use of slings. I'm still trying to learn the earliest origins and first recorded use of it. This was an interesting video.

@mgsxmike

Жыл бұрын

I'm still looking for the person who asked

@genghisken0181

5 ай бұрын

I think Daryl Hanna was the first sling user when her clan kicked her out of the cave and she had a baby to feed/protect. ;-)

Such a good piece. I loved it.

Great informative video

I'm from the Balearic Islands, and my grandfather (87 years old) told me that his father would put the breakfast on a tree, and told him that he could eat it when he tossed it from the tree with a sling.

Niiiiiice! This is a cool series! Please do consider covering ancient camelry, I found information on the topic to be pretty rare

Invicta's stepping up their game. Nice video man

Very interesting, thankyou so much for this video.

Here's an interesting question worth talking about. Which/Who was better? The Rhodian or Balearic Slingers? And as far as units from history. I'd love to see a video on either the Varangian Guard or maybe the Viking Berserkers.

I took up the sling after reading a piece about the Balearics. My first target was actually (I'm not kidding) a barn wall. I eventually got to the point where I could hit a beer can at about 75 feet, before I gave it up for other purposes. I still have a few slings around, and found I had made different lengths for experiments and distance throwing. Initial ones were of braided cotton cord, with a leather pouch for the stones. Later ones were of hemp cord, which was more resistant to getting wet.

Keep up this series they are great.

Excellent video!

Just imagine, you're advancing towards a bunch of guys in tunics and sandals, then suddenly everyone in the front line of your formation dies from rocks. *Imma head out*

@vanivanov9571

3 жыл бұрын

Rocks fall, and everybody dies.

@anemicsilence

3 жыл бұрын

😆😆😆

@averyrandomllama6516

3 жыл бұрын

Lead to disaster...

@UnicornstalkRGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@averyrandomllama6516 ahh I see what you did there

@averyrandomllama6516

3 жыл бұрын

@@UnicornstalkRGaming :)

I imagine slings are underappreciated in part due to modern games like DnD. Slings are always just basic starter weapons that you upgrade away from as soon as possible.

Hello , great video , thanks for sharing. :)