My collection now only consists of H. Moser timepieces including the new Streamliner Centre Seconds, the “Green Dragon”. The luxury of H. Moser is not in it’s price point but in it’s rarity, innovation, brand connection, unique design and of course quality.

The thing I like about HMC is that they keep the production numbers down but bring good quality timepieces with high level finishing annually. Good job 👏

Very love the Moser and the “thinking “ and “culture “ that they’re creating. Love the beautiful of simple and hide the complications inside. I had a perpetual calendar

Guys, this was the best episode of Discussions While Distancing so far. The rapport was inspiring, and the topics you introduced were truly thought-provoking. Great job!

Edouard and Moser watchmakers have the largest balls above all others. What a visionary, respect!

@heinrichmoser6691

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the "big" compliment!

Picked up an H. Moser Tourbillon, my first tourbillon, a couple of weeks ago. In love with it! Haven't worn it yet, but soon will. Now in the market for my second H.Moser. Absolutely love these timepieces. Also a big fan of F.P. Journe as well.

Great analogy Edouard on car shows. For me in NYC it was the annual Javits car show. To check out innovation , future prototypes and current new offerings. Five years ago i went and discovered no great technology leaps above my 7 year old loaded Lexus. I went and test drove a Tesla , bought it and love it Same why I go more to independents, unique, passion, art of indies. Love my Mosers and other indies

@heinrichmoser6691

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Richard hope we can catch up soon!

Ed Meylan - thank you for candidly sharing your thoughts on the the development of your brand. I love what you are currently doing. Looking to adding to my collection of Mosers :) I wish you all the best!

@heinrichmoser6691

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words

This video was so amazing! I really do want a Moser now. The human connection is real. The only issue is I'm a GO fan too and I can honestly get 2-3 GO for a Moser, but there is nothing like a Moser out there so maybe someday...

@contaygious

3 жыл бұрын

Ok to clarify the prices are extremely fair. The value is real. I just happen to love the more expensive models ha

I really love Moser watches. I have a Moser Endeavor smalls seconds, and am looking for my next piece. The new green dial streamliner is magnificent, but I’m trending towards a Moser perpetual. Anyway, this was a fantastic video and it was great to listen to Edouard. Keep it up.

@davidjb3671

3 жыл бұрын

@Rob - you heard the man - the Streamliner Perpetual is coming!

@heinrichmoser6691

3 жыл бұрын

Dear Rob, I just received your email.Thank you for the message. This is a very tough choice. Both are amazing yet different pieces.

this discussion is so 2021

“Collector and friend of Watchbox” he adds absolutely cero times cero to the conversation.

Big fan (and customer) of Moser. Edouard listed only four collections and did not include the Venturer and Swiss Alp Watch lines. Are they being discontinued??

@davidjb3671

3 жыл бұрын

Good question and I've heard him mention the same list of 4 elsewhere recently. I guess (and hope) perhaps the Venturer is seen as a subset of the Endeavor, but unfortunately the Swiss Alp Watch is probably going away. I believe Moser have stated they have a limited number of the rectangular movements and don't currently plan to produce any more, though hopefully that may change in future. Right now I feel they want to move ahead with the Streamliner and other new designs, and at only around 1,500 pieces per year they just can't do everything - much as we would like them to.

@markmaier2503

3 жыл бұрын

Swiss Alp is being discontinued.

@heinrichmoser6691

3 жыл бұрын

yes they are. We will announce the final edition of the Swiss Alp Watch soon and the Venturer will only be available as inventory lasts.

@davidjb3671

3 жыл бұрын

@@heinrichmoser6691 Sir, it's sad to learn that the Venturer will also be discontinued - several of my favourite pieces are in that line. But I look forward to seeing what will come in replacement.

@DanteMiami

3 жыл бұрын

Heinrich Moser Thank you for clarifying. I had a feeling the Swiss Alp Watch would have a limited run but not the Venturer. But I understand the need to focus and pair down the collection to one dress/classic watch line. I have yet to see my Venturer on another wrist and, now, I suspect I never will. I look forward to each new launch and wish you all much success.

What was the prototype!? Love moser, they are doing everything right.

@richardteevan4480

3 жыл бұрын

He had on the green dial, new streamliner

@pilotstyle123

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardteevan4480 He mentions a prototype while the camera is turned off

@richardteevan4480

3 жыл бұрын

pilotstyle123 missed that. He did post a blue lagoon streamliner (not produced) proto he listed in a fb group today

@davidjb3671

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardteevan4480 that would be an obvious move, but please not right away. I'm still waiting to get the Matrix Green. I'll be ready for another one early next year thanks 😄

Please make smaller watches. 36-38mm would be awesome!

@markmaier2503

3 жыл бұрын

Check out the Endeavor line. Many are available at 38.8mm with a short lug-to-lug length. They fit wonderfully.

@2mnyshp

3 жыл бұрын

At east the Streamliner Centre Seconds wears way smaller than 40mm thanks to the missing lugs! Also, the heritage line wears smaller than 42mm.

@atis23

3 жыл бұрын

@@2mnyshp I did just order Streamliner Center Seconds. Really hot watch right now, Sydel & Sydel in Chicago said it will be couple months.

@2mnyshp

3 жыл бұрын

@@atis23 Great! I ordered one too and I should get it in March. If you consider that they only produce 15 - 20 pieces of this model per month for the whole market (so I've read) the waiting isn't that bad, to be honest. I think this will probably change in the future because right now it's still a sleeper IMO. What I like about this model is that there is currently no watch that reminds me of it when I put it on. It's so elegant and modern it's hard to describe. The bracelet is out of this world!

Ed Meylan is the Elon Musk of the watch world. Moser is hands down the most innovative watch brand in the world!

@jerieltee

3 жыл бұрын

De Bethune has entered the chat

@heinrichmoser6691

3 жыл бұрын

thanks!

I love HMC but not sure I'm not sure I'm rich enough to take a risk on the brand. Then again I bought a GO... I will concede there may be some cognitive dissonance there.

They speak about "innovation" while they use the same movements, same dials and same cases, one or two exceptions here and there... But today in the times where everyone wants to different, it's easy to fool them. Robert Retford, Paul Newman and so many others, weren't different because of they're watch was unique, they were different because of they're achievements!!! I would never wear a red dial watch, it's hideous...

@davidjb3671

3 жыл бұрын

On Watchbase I count 28 current or recent Moser movements - all developed in-house with one or two exceptions, That's far more than Rolex and probably only exceeded by Patek and JLC. The sheer genius and quality of their Perpetual and 1,027 year Moonphase complications is amazing. Their dual concentric wheel big-date mechanism is clever but subtle, and obviates the need for a hideous cyclops like on some inferior brands. And virtually every single component except the jewels is made by Moser themselves. They even make their own unique Straumann hairsprings. Compared to Moser most of the rest of the Swiss watch industry are like amateurs.

@user-fi5fr9us2t

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidjb3671 I doubt they have 28 different movements, a date or no date doesn't make two different movements, just a removal of the date wheel! Second, the perpetual is not really a perpetual, since it only displays date and month, so as per perpetual calendar "definitions" it should also display a day, and the leap year complication on the front so it can all be readable at a glance! Don't even try to compare Moser to Rolex, since the amount of faulty and unfuncional watches that Moser used to produce, are uncomparable to the rugged tank built and reliable Rolex.But I also add, that Moser is a dress watch brand not a tool watch brand, so apples and oranges! But to each his own, If you like it buy it and wear it,To me they are just hideous colorful dials for grownup insecure kids who need colors to be seen... I mean seriously, you really believe a real serious, secure gentlemen, would wear a red, purple, turquoise watch? Come on man!!! To me a watch that doesn't have a minute track is useless, since if I have to guess the minutes, the timepiece is irrelevant. Good luck with the brand...

@davidjb3671

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fi5fr9us2t Your view on the colours and styles of Moser is based on your own aesthetic sense and I won't comment further, except to say that I don't like ALL Moser watches just as I doubt anyone likes ALL Rolexes or ALL Pateks etc. However I like enough of them to want to collect the ones I do. But where on earth does anyone say that a Perpetual calendar watch has to show the day and leap year on the dial? Quoting Wikipedia: "In watchmaking, "perpetual calendar" describes a calendar mechanism that correctly displays the date on the watch 'perpetually', taking into account the different lengths of the months as well as leap years." If you need a watch to tell you the day of the week then you may be suffering mental confusion or memory problems, and the leap year is on the back if you really need to know it. Personally I only think about the leap year once every 4 years. And considering all the weird and wacky dials and unreadable skeletons out there, telling the time on a Moser Purity or Concept dial to within + or - 1 minute is a breeze for pretty much anyone over the age of 5. If I really want a watch to know the exact time I'll get a quartz digital, but I don't so I won't. Anyway, before criticizing Moser for lack of innovation or variety in the movements and dials (your original point) you might actually want to take a look at their full range of watches which contains more variety than most brands 10 or even 100 times the size. If you don't like the style and colours that's fine, but the facts about the movements are there for everyone there to see.

@user-fi5fr9us2t

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidjb3671 Well, first advise is to let go of Wikipedia, and start reading horological books! As per JLC, IWC, ALS, VC, PP, and the list goes on, a Perpetual Calendar Watch displays day, date, month, leap year, moon-phase, and even the year, on the same dial! I think you need to address this issue with Wikipedia! Second if you need to guess the minutes why would you want to wear something on your wrist? Last time I checked, this things were called TImepices? I went to the Moser site, and at the "movements" category I saw seven movements so not twenty-eight, that might be Lange, Also if you listen to the interview MR. Meylan clearly states that some movements are outsourced mot In-house! So back to square one, close Wikipedia, study, study, study And while it's awesome to be a brand fanboy, one needs to know the facts! So as far as I'm concerned, I like their movement architecture, but the rest is a one trick pony, but as long as they have people who want to emphises they're Cohones with bright color and not unique personality, Moser will find enough suckers for sure. On the secondary market dough, 35 cents to a dollar... Good luck on your journey!

@davidjb3671

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fi5fr9us2t So you managed to name some well known watch companies who make Perpetual movements, but do they all show the day and leap year status on the dial? No. And show me any quotation from a reputable horological source which defines a Perpetual this way. Put up or shut up, but I won't be holding my breath. And as to your original point about lack of innovation at Moser, I believe it's self evident that your argument is facile. Go ahead and do YOUR research, but I have better things to do and will not be responding further. So please take this opportunity to have the last word and use it to dig your hole even deeper.