The Park Value in RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 Explained
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Have you ever wondered how the park value is calculated? In this video I explain that and how to abuse it.
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List of the RideBonusValues and EIN values: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Deurklink's park value guide: forums.openrct2.org/topic/287...
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There might be some slight differences between the calculated numbers and the actual numbers in the game due to extra rounding or something like that. Also, I am talking about the RideBonusValue list and EIN values list as two seperate lists because when I wrote this script they were still their own lists in the code. When I was editing this video I discovered that those lists were removed so I made my own big list with all values in it.
@duncanfrot4318
4 жыл бұрын
Also we have split up ride types just slightly in a recent change so the bit at 6 minutes might not be fully correct anymore.
@Eidenhoek
4 жыл бұрын
I always read EIN values as eigenvalues, then I get super angry because I can't remember what those are. Probably matrix stuff. Stupid matrices.
@c3sPAze
4 жыл бұрын
Would you ever do a Simcity 4 breakdown like you do with RCT
@blakerobin2678
3 жыл бұрын
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@KL53986
3 жыл бұрын
Hello Marcel.
How to increase park value in a nutshell: Build some scary ass coasters with 20+ intensity and keep it closed, because the bigger stats a coaster has, the more value it gives, and the value won’t go down cause of age
@CaveyMoth
4 жыл бұрын
Scary tiny rides are the best.
@TS_Mind_Swept
3 жыл бұрын
Scary butt? Must be huge..
I love that "Tiny Death Maze" is a legitimate game strategy that exists
You’re alive! Welcome back to your own channel.
@blackpete
4 жыл бұрын
That took some time, but was worth it
@Goz86
4 жыл бұрын
Quality over quantity :)
@88DanBob
4 жыл бұрын
A.D.Goz.86 absolutely agree.
@Serasphiel
4 жыл бұрын
Guys gotta be scraping tye bottom of the barrel with this game soon. Then he cranks out a 20 minute monster. Beast.
God bless he's returned
@Moarty95
4 жыл бұрын
Finally!
@CaveyMoth
4 жыл бұрын
I knew he would return, according to the numbers from my roller coaster calculator.
@PROPLAYEN
4 жыл бұрын
Doop
"Now that we know how it works, let's abuse the HELL out of it" hell yeah dude
@MarcelVos
4 жыл бұрын
That's basically the slogan of my channel lol
@nthgth
4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcelVos spoken like a true person of science!
17:06 "Tiny, scary rides." Maybe it's your accent but I just love this phrase.
Optional title: "Why OpenRCT2 is a mandatory balance patch"
@PlayingGilly
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the park value drop in OpenRCT isn't as drastic.
@benvanoers1118
Жыл бұрын
@@PlayingGilly well yeah, but it makes the game way easier, almost to the point it's too easy because when you place some benches and bins, then hire some handyman and mechanics, you're basically garuanteed to have a park rating above 900 now.
@LEWIS1992
9 ай бұрын
Nah, I don't like the idea of changing Chris Sawyer's coding. He clearly had a certain vision for the game and I think patching that is a bad thing.
@Krannski
3 ай бұрын
@@LEWIS1992 that's some kool aid right there
@BlissBee
Ай бұрын
LEWIS1992 then play rct classic or play versions before the change you don't like
7:15 This probably would have been a good time to mention that there are 8 months in a year in RCT. I almost wrote a comment to correct you before I remembered that.
@joraneveraarts9589
4 жыл бұрын
Haha I was confused for a second there too
@Aereto
4 жыл бұрын
Assumes 4 months reserved for winter prep and wrap up.
Nice Marcel, that you found time for a video after months of studying
1:35 So the value of a person in RollerCoaster Tycoon is litterally $7...
@TheOriginalJphyper
3 жыл бұрын
That's actually about the total value of all the raw materials that make up the human body, so yeah, that number is technically accurate.
@DutchTDK
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginalJphyper depends on how you sell it. My liver would sell for a lot. But if I split it in 10 pieces it loses a lot of value
@dudhhrmcdudhhr6071
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheOriginalJphyper thanks for telling me that i can buy bulk corpses for $7 each
"If this ride is three years old, that is twenty four months..." Rollercoaster tycoon logic.
@HECKproductions
2 жыл бұрын
well the months out of season dont count... ever notice how it jumps from october to march?
@fabptitpom
Жыл бұрын
@@HECKproductions It took me 16 years to notice. I've started playing the game when I was 10, and I've noticed the jump from october to march last week.
Can’t wait to see you do a ride overview of the damn multi-dimension coaster
"You don't have to open the ride... since no one will ride it anyway" Love all your videos Marcel. Also, shout out to your mom!
This was a thing I figured out about back when I played vanilla RCT2 as a kid. I would save my coasters as pre-built custom designs and then just delete the ride and rebuild it in the same spot. Luckily, OpenRCT2 has both the "renew ride" feature, plus the cheat to renew all of your rides at once. Of course, if you're using cheats anyway, may as well just use the "999 park rating" cheat directly, haha.
@nthgth
4 жыл бұрын
Plus the "rides do not lose value over time" cheat
@jefffinkbonner9551
Жыл бұрын
I like keeping my OG rides because they carry their lifetime guest count and revenue stats, so having the renew or refurbish feature is excellent. I wouldn't even mind if it cost as much money as building a new one or required the ride to be closed. All about keeping that first merry go round!
Always love seeing your videos. We're even doing a Roller Coaster Tycoon series on our channel right now, and your videos are a huge inspiration for them. Thanks for uploading!
FINALLY! I found your channel 2 months ago and I've been waiting for an upload ever since. Glad you're back!
Few days ago I wondered if you were still alive since I couldn't recall the last time I saw a new video pop-up. Good thing we got off this ride.
Thanks for the video! If you're taking requests, I'd really like a coaster design tips / fundamentals video. Stuff like: should on-ride photos always be used, when turns should be banked, what the main stat contributors are, the value of loops vs helixes vs drops, etc.
YES I WAS SO HAPPY TO GET THAT NOTIFICATION
He has returned when we needed him most
Look who is back! I love those videos, and how you get technical in them without being boring.
@MarcelVos
4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you didn't find it boring! With these kinds of videos with lots of math I'm always a bit scared people are going to get bored, but it's good to hear that at least you didn't get bored.
Thank you for the deep explanations ! For now I just used the repair/rebuild option on aging rides to boost the park value up before the end of the deadline . It works but if you want to play it "legit" without abusing the system too much, it's the only thing you can do without limiting the size of your rides and making more of them
Started watching your videos last week and got through all of them, I was bummed out that you hadn’t posted in a while but now I’m excited
I was watching your videos today and wondering where you went, I’m so glad to see you back!
So glad to have you back! Thoroughly enjoyed this one, park value has always been a bit of a mystery to me in RCT2
I love these videos. Me and my brother played a lot of RTC back in the days but never dug into the code for how stuff was calculated. We instead just got a feeling for how stuff worked just by playing the game. These videos explain so much on why our stategies worked or did not work. Like why intense rides contribuated more to park value than gentle rides.
@MarcelVos
4 жыл бұрын
I also got a feeling for how it worked before I actually found out the exact calculations. I was building tiny coasters before Deurklink wrote his guide on the park value.
Thank you again for your interesting and informative videos :) Inspired by you, I’ve wanted to try doing a technical explanation of how things work in Sim City 2000 but have found that information on it is very thin on the ground!
Glad to have you back, always enjoy your content. Hoping you could make a vid on the mechanics of rain? I know the majority of how it works (Umbrellas, guests not wanting to ride "unsheltered" rides [most] and significantly increasing desire to ride "Sheltered" rides [like merry go round and observation tower]) but otherwise I was wondering if there was much more to it than that, and even if you could go into more detail on what sort of changes it does make to preferences. I'll also be honest, I'm mainly asking cause im currently playing through Thunderstorm park, and it sparked my interest in it
@mcohen8025
4 жыл бұрын
That would make a good video, maybe weather in general and how it affects things.
Marcel: _super unhappy about park value_ Also Marcel: _traps people for centuries on coasters_
@MechWarrior894
4 жыл бұрын
Diamond Heights used to frustrate me in RCT1, but I've gotten better at it
@roberte2945
3 жыл бұрын
@@MechWarrior894 Diamond Heights is fun, unless one of the prebuilt coasters experiences a station brakes failure.
@MechWarrior894
3 жыл бұрын
@@roberte2945 guess what happened to me.
Missed you man. Thanks for coming back. ♥
Thanks so much for this- I've always been completely mystified by park value, and I end up sitting around randomly placing items in my park trying to up the value and tearing my hair out when it doesn't work :')
@MariMV7
3 жыл бұрын
UGH, same 😭
I have really missed these videos, glad to see you're back.
I’m glad I found your channel in quarantine! I’d love to see a video with strategy and tips for building rides mostly or fully underground.
Great vid on a special and complicate topic! Had some AHA effects during watching while always remembering the stupidity scenarios where the goal was the infamous "park value". Cant forget my 16year ingame length of a specific scenario i had to deal with -.-
I was just binging your videos, so happy that you're back! Thanks for making such amazing videos 🙏🙏🙏
Happy to see i'm not the only one who missed you! Only yesterday, and i kid you not, i looked up when you uploaded something the last time and hoped you won't stay inactive. And just a few hours later you're back! Amazing Video btw :)
yesterday i was asking where you were(dutch time). and exactly today, you made another video. keep making more video's
These video's are so great! Such an old game and it gets better and better after every video! Keep up the good work Marcel! En groetjes uit Praag!
i havent even played this game in years and even when i did i never really took it that seriously but i just like listening to you talk about it
As a followup to the slowest ride possible, it would be cool to see the highest park rating possible, or actually just the highest/lowest X sounds good. Loved those videos.
Yes! It made my day to see Marcel posting again!
OMG HE'S BACK! I discovered your channel two months ago and watched every video on it, glad to see you're still alive.
Congratulations on the 50K subs!! Also, welcome back to KZread!
Love the videos! Keep up the ride overviews. Your designed in efficient rides have revolutionized my parks.
So that's how it's calculated. Really needed this video! I was always confused what that and the Company value was and why they're there. Thanks for the video, mate! Glad to see you're back too. :) Speaking of Company Value btw, anybody know who has achieved the highest Company Values in all the parks and what the highest was? I've always wondered what the highest Park and Company Values are and how one could do it.
Nice video Marcel. Playing RCT2 for a long time and your videos really helped me get some challenges. But I just like to build parks as the way it should be, although I recently just started making my own rides. I first only build the standard ones. Nice to see you did a new video. Groeten uit Oss.
@MarcelVos
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't expect anyone to play as optimized as possible. When try these tricks once or twice you get a feeling for how they work and then you can incorporate them into your more realistic parks without it seeming too unrealistic. When I play scenarios myself I don't optimize either, but I do apply my strategies. Nice to hear you've been building your own coasters, that's a lot of fun so keep that up!
I'm glad your still around. Love you videos
Always nice to see a new video from the maestro!
Thank you again for your help with my question on Twitter, I honestly appreciate it.
This is legit my new favorite channel
I thought you were lost because you didn't buy a park map!
@Kaslidaughterofchaos
4 жыл бұрын
Nice you get my like
Late 1990s Six Flags ride operations in a nutshell. Buy a lot of rides for one park to beat the competitors' park, and do not open some due to a lack of staffing.
Welcome back, I'm glad you didn't quit KZread. I guess you were taking a break.
Welcome back! I have just joined in the past 2 months and I was worried you were never returning
Fantastic! I missed your guides.
Thanks for that list at 6:14. I've been reverse-engineering the game and was surprised to find that certain coaster types are actually considered identical by the game.
Heyy, you're back! Hope you're doing good mate. Stay safe. Great video as always!! :)
happy to see you making video again, HELLO Marcel!
So glad to see you back Marcel! I was getting worried :o
Nice to have you back
The King has returned! Keep Up the good work Bro Love your vids
Thank you so much , Diamond Heights scenario has been pissing me off and all I needed was the explanation and the screen at 17:14
My fav. channel has resurrected!!
WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL MY LIFE!!! I always was so so bad at RCT so i just always did custom parks and wait for my dad to beat the harder ones lol. I remember he hated the one where you can't build over the tree height.
Welcome back. We missed you!
Great video again Marcel! Got another video idea for you: compare prices / preferences of all stalls in rct. I'm interested to see which are most efficient. Thank you!
Welcome back, you beautiful king.
Love this video. I have to replay a bunch of scenarios I've already beat because I'm just starting Classic on my phone... Just want to get Diamond Heights over with. I prefer the harder scenarios and I'm getting bored lmao
Just got back into the game and got open rct2 cause of your videos, I could tell something was different and it turns out it was the formula change for new rides
i love your channel so much, keep up the good work!
Happy to support man!
I was wondering how you could possibly do a 20 min video on park value. Now I see. Great video too. Thanks.
I laughed so hard at seeing 20+ of those tiny red roller coasters jammed together, and the first time those mazes leading to void death appeared 😂 I actually would get rid of troublesome guests the same way as a kid in RCT1
The Return of the King
Your videos literally make my day Marcel
I do quite enjoy the way the rides contribute to the park value. taking throughput and potential ticket income into account means it's more or less valuing the ride for the income that it can make from the current point onwards.
Glad you're back on the KZread thingy. Stay safe and study hard.
Great! This only took about 21 years to finally get answered!
8:11 I hate that it took me a little while to understand this was supposed to be a Pokémon route, and I love that someone made a Pokémon route in a RCT park.
@MarcelVos
4 жыл бұрын
I made that myself actually. One of my earliest videos is about that park.
Welcome back Marcel!
Great video as always!! Do you consider in making a video about Parkitect? I've been playing it recently and is very similar to RCT2 I would like to hear your opinion about this game, what things you like and not about it
I was having a shitty day and Lord and behold this guy smooth voice comes in. Love your videos bro!!!
@vargas13947
4 жыл бұрын
Ps. I hope your studying are going great too.
Pretty interesting! Thnaks for uploading!
Yaaas you came back 💙
Wow, that's a bunch of info for one video 👍
The king hath returned
thanks this was really helpful. it's really dumb that rides depreciate the park value over time. beat the animatronic scenario at the last minute by opening a couple dozen cheap rides that i had kept closed.
YESS you're back!
Hi Marcel, pretty new here but loving the content. Can you do a video describing the main differences between the three versions of the game?
Great to see you back
The Spiffing Brit sent me. No regrets.
Every video you just break my childhood even further lmao
je maakt het veel moeilijker dan dat het daadwerkelijk is haha maar bedankt voor de video man. lekkere accent ook
the legend is back!!
Guess who's back, back again? Marcel Vos WOOP WOOP!
19:44 ROFL. Love your videos (and your accent).
Welcome back!
I just watched one of your livestream vods and I am a huge fan!! I have a Deuling Möbius design that Iwish I could show you but I don't know how🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ Edit: added "Deuling"
He came back!