Thank you for mentioning my project! I'm still hard at work and confident that I can bring that OEM GameCube controller feel to the Joycons. I should have more progress to share over the coming weeks!

@TestTypeG

Жыл бұрын

Where can I find information on your project? I can't find anything on Google. Are the print files available?

@TestTypeG

Жыл бұрын

@@kampcreates That sounds great, I'm looking forward to it! Thanks for the quick reply, I'll make sure to follow you on twitter.

@CarrotsNotCake

Жыл бұрын

You rock! Take your time. We've waited so long, another few months (even years, really) wouldn't be a big deal.

@GoofyPoptart

Жыл бұрын

Bro you're awesome I hope you succeed.

@Someone69769

Жыл бұрын

Neat

I love how Shank spotted the joystick across the table, was stuck in the forward position and had to fix it.

When it comes to third party controllers, I feel like 8BitDo stands out by far than any other third party. If they'd make GameCube style Joycons I'd buy them immediately.

@TheInfiniteNine

Жыл бұрын

For sure

@PatrickThomasBrady

Жыл бұрын

8bitdo and hori are at the top IMO

@nayyarrashid4661

Жыл бұрын

I have ordered the NYXI ones.

@shattered-reflection8045

Жыл бұрын

I ordered one and I personally feel that the buttons are still 3rd party feeling and aren't close to a Pro controller. Also, the buttons on the handles are really easy to get accidental presses on making them more harm than good. I also prefer the stick layout of the Pro controller to the PS style that 8bit Do offers. It's more comfortable in my opinion. You can pickup a Pro controller on sale at least once a month for the same price as the 8bit Do controllers ($50 or so).

@mercury5003

Жыл бұрын

@@shattered-reflection8045 you CAN disable the handle buttons which honestly i tend to prefer. I don't think they're going for a pro controller feel but that might just be me.

The actual GOAT is here!

@R7EM21

Жыл бұрын

your mom is the goat

Thank you guys for emphasizing the importance of button/stick feel. I don't understand how so many third-party companies haven't figured out how to make face buttons that feel good and consistent. The ideal ratios are there for the taking. Valve seemingly copied the Xbox face buttons for the Steam Deck and they feel amazing. Nintendo reproduced the N64 controller after two decades and it's indistinguishably perfect. Take some first-party controllers apart and take some damn measurements.

@bland9876

Жыл бұрын

And burn all the Switch pro controllers cuz they are one of the worst. When it comes to button feel. They are the best hands down when it comes to grip shape.

For a second, I thought that portable wii was a switch lite with a game cube controller. I think that would be really cool. Maybe that's an idea for you, Shank?

Whoever reached out to him to make a GOOD controller instead of a copy paste flashy one that just doesn't feel right, THANK YOU.

I've definitely fallen in love with the Nyxi GameCube joycons, they may not feel 100% like the GameCube controllers I still have after all these long years but they give me the button placement and feel I've been waiting for since Switch launched. Also doesn't hurt that the sticks are the new Hall sensor sticks rather than the cheap sticks first party controllers insist on using that drift fairly easily.

@TheDeathmail

Жыл бұрын

The only reason the 1st party controller sticks are cheap are because of how many first party controllers are being sold using the technology (and lots of other companies started liking them too). Weirdly enough, they feel much better than Hall sensors (which is technically old tech)... the issue (which was only found out because of how many Switches were sold) is that they more easily drift...

@richguev

Жыл бұрын

How’s the controller on smash? It’s only game I play worry about the joy sticks

@Malacine

Жыл бұрын

@@richguev it works fine for me, but I'm a casual Smash player so take my experience with a grain of salt

@LyricalGenius828

Жыл бұрын

Snagged the black GameCube nyxi can’t wait to get them😎

@jackcampbell2021

7 ай бұрын

@@richguevI play a good bit, it’s good for labbing stuff on the go for sure and close enough in shape and design that when I want to play competitive I have no problem pulling out a good oem gcc. It’s heafty but it’s not too bad even when I play claw grip. Only gripes are terrible back paddles (just don’t use em) and when mounted on the switch the screen is tilted back a bit on my comfiest holding position. If they canted the grips a bit backwards it’d be better laying down.

The retro flag is my favorite tbh. I’ve had it for a couple of months now and it is incredible tbh. Great feel, great buttons, Hull joysticks, no delay, and it fits the OLED.

More controller reviews need to talk about these type of things. Most of the time they're just like "the d-pad feels good." But what does that mean? Lol

Shankmods was really a visionary bro They copied his design-

In the original, the gate is tilted at an angle, to follow better the natural angle of the thumb (from holding the controller). Nintendo did because in the N64 controller the thumb was positioned naturally vertically aligned with the analog stick. This is one of the main advantages that the original controller has and many of these imitations fail to implement.

Nice to see ShankMods again! I'd love to get my hands on one of those big GameCube JoyCons!

Yo thanks for the shout! Glad those made it to you for the video 🙌🙌🙌

I have the Wizard and it's amazing. That said, I'm waiting for someone to make a GameCube styled controller that goes all out so that I can use it on my Steam Deck or Switch. Not just the GameCube layout but analog triggers, NFC, wireless, gyro, paddle function buttons and rumble. A true GameCube styled elite controller and I'm more then ready to toss money at it!

@nayyarrashid4661

Жыл бұрын

Will the NYXI ones work with Steam Deck?

@LightyKD_

Жыл бұрын

@@nayyarrashid4661 you can use the controller on Steam Deck, just have to remember to turn on the "use Joycons as single controller" setting in Steam.

Something I miss that I don't think was mentioned is the way the plastic feels on the originals compared to the official smash ones or any other new version. The original gamecube controllers seemed to have a slightly smoother/softer plastic and even though I usually like having texture on a controller, I prefer the feel of the original

@JaredConnell

Жыл бұрын

Are you sure they aren't just worn smooth after years of use?

@goode_bag

Жыл бұрын

@@JaredConnell I'm pretty sure they were just different plastics because I have a very lightly used original controller that still has that smooth feeling.

@BigJoker

Жыл бұрын

@@goode_bag you're right. The originals do have a smoother finish, whereas those later black/white ones have a pretty rough feel.

@beardalaxy

Жыл бұрын

@@JaredConnell you can still buy the original, brand new OEM gamecube controllers in Japan and they all have the slick finish.

The price point on some of these for the quality is absolutely bonkers. You will pay 55 dollars for a controller that feels like a 20 dollar Walmart knockoff. It’s really hard to find the diamond in the rough especially when these companies are sending controllers to random influencers and sponsoring their videos.

@PrestoJacobson

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this happened to me with the original binbok wireless joycon.

@GoofyPoptart

Жыл бұрын

NYXI gamecube controller and the Retroflag controller are the only controllers here (That I've used) that are absouletely perfect there's no gripe i have with either of these so i highly recommend those two plus with Hal joysticks you really can't go wrong.

Personally, I'd go with the Nyxi if I wanted a GameCube-style controller, the button layout is a must-have.

Since I grabbed a Switch, I've been waiting for the NYXI Wizard.I cannot believe companies didn't act on 2020 sooner, but I am glad they did.

Shank hit it on the head at the end; the first company to release a straight up "New Wavebird" is going to make a LOT of money. Added features are nice and always welcome, but get the buttons and sticks feeling OEM and you will have the (admittedly quite specific) market cornered immediately.

Given an alternate set of sticks that are closer to the GameCube, The Nyxi Wizard would be a dream controller for me.

As soon as you mentioned the sounds and compared them, I had a lightbulb, yes those madcatz and 3rd parties all had the same sound of cheaper polymer and standard screw fittings... the 1st party Nintendo/XBox/PS all seem to have a deeper register. Does anyone sound profile these controllers under a "control" test condition it could make a strange ASMR point just in that content alone, but I think there's correlation to sound and satisfaction if you think about it........

I pre-ordered one when NYXI started allowing pre-orders. The gamecube controller has always been my favourite one, and this is the closest we'll ever get as a joycon combo for an acceptable price.

@blakelandry9313

Жыл бұрын

Same i’m still waiting for mine. Hopefully I get it soon. I pre ordered it back in January.

@harrymecha8797

Жыл бұрын

@@blakelandry9313 I ordered mine early February and they’ve been shipped today, so shouldn’t be too long for you

Glad you featured Shanks he has some great videos on his own and it was great seeing him again since its veen a while since his last video, love your videos too

Here's a key point you should mention to these companies: extra features disqualify controllers from tournament use! I imagine they'd save money and sell more controllers if they just ditched turbo and macros... My go-to is PowerA but I the sticks die in less than a year of daily use. My dream mod would be PowerA with hall-effect sticks~

The PowerA is not nearly as bad as the old madcatz GameCube controllers. It's pretty close to OEM. It beats the hell out of the Wii U Hyperkin Procube, which isn't really even a fair comparison.

This is indeed an interesting video. I loved GameCube back in the day and love the feel of the controller but nowadays I think I need the diamond A B X Y layout.

To me, the requirements for a perfect modern GameCube controller include analog triggers that feel and function exactly the same as the OEM models, the four face buttons being in the exact same positions as the originals and the controller shape that’s exactly the same or similar to the original. Manufacturers can make plenty of improvements to the design such as have the same number of buttons as the modern controllers and making the body shape larger, but if it doesn’t have the above criteria, it’s simply not a GameCube controller.

Awesome video, but I would've liked to see how these options compare to the officially licensed HORI and PDP options.

I hope this video is seen by a lot of these companies and a good controller arises lol

I already got a pro controller and if i wanted to use OEM gamecube, i'd just use the usb adapter. There's VERY FEW joycon-style options, Nyxi is the only one who got it right.

I ordered the NYXI Wizard back in January and it's supposed to arrive soon. Really looking forward to trying it.

I really appreciate how you guys gave these controllers an honest review. I'm really considering owning one of the Nyxi or binbok.

@jeanvictorhajjar

Жыл бұрын

Honestly to me they are the best, it depends which model you are going for but I will warn you that if you get the nyxi wizard specifically to play super smash, you will be disappointed. Otherwise it's great

@Andres_RPG

7 ай бұрын

@jeanvictorhajjar ¿Why is not recomended in smash ultimate?

Definitely want the battler since it has an adapter for the actual gamecube, it becomes the wavebird I wish I had back then with rumble.

@4carhur1more

Жыл бұрын

I legit got that exact controller in the mail today and it's really good! I'm using it for Dolphin but it came with a plug in for the gamecube port and it definitely would work on an original GC. I'd recommend it if you don't want to pay the ebay price for an OEM wavebird. Side note, the analog stick definitely doesn't stick like it did in the video.

@VEN0M415

Жыл бұрын

@@4carhur1more seeing quite a few varying opinions so it seems quality isnt exact for every model, a bit of a gamble for those buying which the company did say in a comment that they would take a look into it, I might wait a little longer for any update

I really hope those third-party companies can focus on making face buttons that feel good. Nyxi has done well so far.

I'm here for Shank. Keep featuring him!

I ordered the nyxi as soon as I could, so hyped for them

@KEE_Wii

Жыл бұрын

I got one of their other controllers and wasn’t super impressed with the plastic but the form factor was on point.

@No1Noz

Жыл бұрын

@@KEE_Wii I don’t have a problem with the plastic. The face buttons suck, especially A, and the dpad doesn’t even have a pivot, just 4 mechanical switches that can all be pressed at once. They blew it. Gonna have to mod it.

@quartzofcourse

Жыл бұрын

@@No1Noz how do you plan to mod them? That does sound less than ideal, but modding them would be less work than making my own from scratch haha

An ideal situation for me would just be something you attach to the Gamecube adapter that sort of turns it into a Pro Controller, or makes the Switch think it is one. That would let you remap buttons and maybe it could add the home, minus, and share buttons on the device itself, or let you use macros to press them.

It’s mind blowing to me that there isn’t a good GameCube style controller option

I like how Shank lowkey looks like he doesn’t wanna be there lol

Thanks for this video, I bought the Retroflag based off this video, and it really is nice, the joysticks have a very nice feel to them. I wish it had an option to use a regular joystick on the right instead of the little c nub though, I am going to see if I can swap in a joystick from something else at some point.

It's already been 3 years???? Holly shit time flies

I bought the gamecube gamepad from Retroflag and still loving it. The button is big and responsive. The negative i have for it is the gamecard slot is hard to get the cartridge out. But the color is really grab me.

I’ve been waiting for this video for week thank you

I will say PowerA's second attempt at the third party gamecube controller that they released with revisions that were recommended by the community actually feels, in my honest opinion, the closest any third party company has gotten to recreating the feel of the Gamecube controller. The triggers no longer fully travel, which was recommended by the community and is honestly for the best considering a switch controller has no analogue trigger functionality. The new triggers feel very much like the feel of a plugged trigger which is a very common mod for Smash Ultimate players to do to OEM Gamecube controllers. They also made the "z buttons" way higher and more comfortable to actually use as shoulder buttons, and they also made the d pad way bigger than OEM. The plastic and rubber of the sticks do not feel as high quality as the OEM, but other than that, the feel has been spot on (bar the quality of life and switch required additions). It's personally my favorite controller to use on my switch.

@BigJoker

Жыл бұрын

I honestly agree. It's not that far off from OEM

I really need a Jacket like Shanks, it looks so cool!

I still want those shank joycon mods with a grip attachment than the one is out in the market. Please make it happen!

I think my favorite one is the Retro Flag. I have seen a couple other videos on that controller. I would buy that one since it actually attaches to the Switch and would help me hold the Switch. I think that one also comes in a variant for the OLED.

I found the nyxi wizard to be a very good replacement for the switch. My friend's arrived and is perfect in every way, I can't wait to play with it.

The Binbok/DOYOKY Gamecube Style Controllers are about 3-4 weeks away from release. We can't wait.. (Pi-Mania Aussie Resellers for the RetroFlag / Binbok Controllers.)

The nub style analog sticks need to be revisited. I feel like I would really like that for some games I play.

Anyone clock the Battler's left stick when it got placed down.... 🤔 Sick upload as usual dude!!

thankfully I found this video before pulling the trigger on buying a nyxi wizard that has come back in stock

I prefer the nyxi one and the only small thing I don't like which isn't anything about how it works, but how there's no other color. I'm not much of a fan of the dark purple colour.

Pre-ordered the nyxi , I'm so excited to try it out!

Received my NYXI Wizard yesterday. It works perfectly and the A button isn't that terrible. Still worth the price !!!

I can't believe you got the actual ShankMods in for this video. This is going to be good.

@BigJoker

Жыл бұрын

Why?

Nothing like the OG Game Cube controller. I just wish a controller the same OG feeling, capture and menu button, gyro and rumble amd joycon style like that white one they showed. That's it. But trying to mimic the og formula is the key!

The NYXI controller is awesome! I just hope they make the c-stick be replaceable, everything about it is amazing.

I bought nyxi hyperion before and they work perfectly in terms of feel and comfortability even though its not hall sensor. Thus, the wizard very killed me and I reordered!

Love the video! Seriously, it boggles the mind that there are such good imitations of every other controller on the market, but nobody seems to be able to emulate the feel of an honest to god GameCube controller. It can't be that hard, right?? What shortcuts are they taking to cause this? It's aggrevated me for like ten years at this point. We NEED a good third party GameCube controller because in ten more years who knows if there will be many functioning ones left.

@jeanvictorhajjar

Жыл бұрын

I highly recommend the PowerA wireless gamecube controller. I used it to play super smash and it's as close as it gets to a real gc controller.

@russellwarren9595

8 ай бұрын

Nintendo spent a lot of time fine tuning the original GameCube controller during development. i think that 3rd party manufacturers dont understand that slightly chunkier grips or different surface texture and things like internal component material types are why they always feel wrong. i understand that they dont have the R and D budgets of Nintendo, but if they were to spent a little more time researching materials and dialling in the feel instead of adding features no one wants they could make a very good product relatively quickly and budget friendly

Of all the aftermarket companies I’ve tried, I think 8bitdo was the most OEM feeling, specifically with the SN30Pro+. If they’d come out with a GameCube option I’d be all over it!

Got my nyxi wizard last week and I love it, even with the A button, it's my favorite GameCube JoyCons by far.

@nayyarrashid4661

Жыл бұрын

Does it work with PC? Is it easy to set up with Dolphin?

@UniversalJuan

Жыл бұрын

@@nayyarrashid4661 Yes and yes

The Retroflag controller makes the Switch a handheld dream console I was playing mostly on TV and tabletop because I love the ProController, but since I got my Retroflag I play 100% handheld with my Oled and it's a dream 👌❤💯

I’m still waiting for my wizard controller. I pre-ordered that back in January and they still haven’t shipped it.

I ordered my NYXI Wizard as soon as I saw them. My favorite controller is the GameCube controller, and it is still used by a lot of Smash players.

No Exlene among the lineup? A while back I thought that was sorta the most viable wireless pseudo-GameCube pro controller...

How are the ABXY buttons on the Retroflag? Are they clicky, mushy, or springy? Thanks in advance!

is there a joucon that uses the 3ds style slide sticks...cus id like to see that

the size of the nyxi wizars is bigger than the new coming binbok? or just same shape?

Anyone have any info on how to find those 3d print files from Camp at 20:49 ?

Having a set of GameCube Joy-Cons is so appealing, so I'd be willing to buy nyxi one first.

Shank looked shy and all, but it's graet to see this in my notification despite being drunk.

Compared to the two controllers that came out during the Wii U times I actually think the power A GameCube controller is More closely to a real gamecube controller. I did like the PDP wire fight pad over the hori Battle pad though because it felt less bad and I actually happens to like it but it is definitely less authentic. When I say less bad I mean that the hori one felt like they didn't have quality controller something. Edit: basically my only complaint with the power A controller was that it doesn't have rumble other than that it has all the features to play on switch perfectly blind including motion controls. Now if you were to find some way to use it on a real GameCube then the shoulder buttons are really shallow and obviously don't have any trigger actuation because switch doesn't have that. It's also a little bit flat on top which depending one how you hold it can be annoying though it doesn't bother me.

Hey Kev, what do you do!? With all that controles!!!

Now that the BINBOK Gamecube Joy Cons have been released, I'd really like you to have look at them if possible!

11:37 this is so cool!

Missed out on the exelene GC controller . Feels closest to OEM for me

This video fell a little flat for me. I feel like you should have spent more time comparing the Nyxi Wizard with the ShankMods controller. You guys just dismissed it. The Nyxi is the closest we have for now to what ShankMods made.

Power A Wireless GameCube style controller is my favorite controller. Just my favorite controller ever. I play every game (that supports a Pro Controller) with it.

if anybody has it, how are the NYXI Wizard when playing Metroid Prime Remastered?

@elitesayanz

Жыл бұрын

Smooth as fk yhea is not the same feeling as the original but it is very close to it

Can’t wait for those bin bok gcn Joycons!

The guy on the left really looks like David Mitchell lol

@I_was_a_Bullfrog

Жыл бұрын

I can see it a little bit.

Thanks Shank, I'm more excited to get my nyxi joycons!

I expect some hot burns on this video 🔥

Isn't that binbok pre-production what turned out to be the NYXI? they sell the exact same controllers, I thought they were the same company

@basslayer000

Жыл бұрын

I don't think they're the same

Something that wasn't mentioned, and I wish it was, was that a lot of these controllers feel super wonky in-game so while there's certainly "button and stick feel," sticks specifically are notoriously funky and weird in third party controllers, with an annoying tendency to "snap" to the X and Y axis, making playing games like Mario 64 feel absolutely wrong and clunky when it came to those N64 controllers that were coming out a few years back. No one ever tests Mario's movements with those N64 third party controllers, and its the best test to use. OEM N64 is smooth as butter despite how much people complain about the stick, while the new third party ones all snap to the X and Y axis, and make moving Mario in true analog space impossible. There's always a notable step at like a 15-20 degree push away from the axis that snaps it on to the zero.

2:10 haha I would always give my mates the 3rd party controllers cus I knew they wouldn't handle them with care.

the "controller" theyre discussing at 5:30 is the only way i play my Switch in handheld now.

Member Only jackets are gangster 🤘🏻

Yo nice vid!

Leaving a like for Shank

Controller feel is the most important thing. You can have all the bells and whistles in the world, but if your controller feels cheap, I'm not buying it.

Shank might be the only other super particular face button weirdo like me. People always talk about the sticks and triggers and all the extra functionality, but really I need about 2 hours of just clicking the face buttons before I know if I wanna buy the thing.

Where did you get that Bull enamel??? My dad want one 🤭

The guy that wants a proper game keep controller for the switch and he goes with the weird connected one that doesn't even have the GameCube way out and looks literally like the worst one from all the reviews I've seen they also say it's not very good I have to believe that he's trolling when he did that.

Controller development is no joke. I remember reading an article back in the day that said Sony had spent over 100 million dollars developing the dual shock 3 (or maybe the ds4, I can't quite remember). Third party companies are more like leeches on the industry, rarely putting in the development effort, and just trying to make a quick buck. Very cool then, that at least one out there is interested in taking some feedback (at the very least) from gc controller aficionado. That retro flag controller looks interesting, especially for something sold on AliExpress. (I ordered the Nyxi Wizard, but still waiting like everyone else lol)

Although I appreciate the video and the comparison/review of all the controllers, I don't really see what the purpose is? A lot of these have different use case scenarios and are even limited to that specific use case to where it really can't be compared or selected. For instance, the one that was selected by the guy in the leather. Isn't that specific to portable? Also, some have GameCube layouts and some don't. I guess to me, there should be a pick for one with a true GameCube layout and one without for portable and non-portable.

The Smash Gamecube controllers are expensive? I bought 4 complete in box for the price of maybe 2 pairs of joy con.

Kevin is like your cool older cousin