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@fairbanksairriders

2 жыл бұрын

What’s the background music? Thanks

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

@@fairbanksairriders I had to do some searching for that one! Cutting it Close - DJ Freedom You can find it in the audio library in KZread Studio! (Hip-Hop & Rap/ Inspirational)

@fairbanksairriders

2 жыл бұрын

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@fairbanksairriders

2 жыл бұрын

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@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

@@fairbanksairriders nice crash 😆

I've always let my carb bikes warm up without hitting the throttle, while other guys were revving them up to 'clean them out'. I always thought that was idiotic at best to add more fuel to clean them out. Let it get warm and slowly rev it up until it takes full throttle cleanly.

What a Great video. Very informative. I had no clue that you could start a tpi so easily in a few simple steps so it runs better. Thanks so much for this video it helped a lot

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad it helped you out!

@claudemarchand1196

5 ай бұрын

dah!! you didnt think about reading the manual

Just bought a new TPI. I read the manual and this is exactly what it says. I let it idle till the radiator is to hot to keep my hand on it. Blip the throttle a couple times and i'm off. Revving a bike is pointless.

The power valve is mechanical, there is nothing there to stop it from opening besides rpm regardless of temp. What you are hearing is the fuel and air mixture and the oil settled in the bottom of the crankcase when it sits. It takes some time to burn that off and until the combustion temps come up to normal it’ll sound crappy. Tpi is a fixed map system or open loop. So all it is aware of is the temp, throttle position, load and rpm. So when it’s cold there is a start up enrichment happening that usually occurs for a specified time or until the temp reaches a threshold. Once that happens it will lean out. The knob is an air bypass to raise the idle. That’s it. Not a choke. Even though Ktm might call it that. It isn’t. Because they have no idle control valve. Cracking the throttle before it’s warm isn’t going to change anything other than it being put into another part of the map. Yes it is still in startup enrichment but that may just be adding 20-30% total to the fuel table.. I don’t disagree with your method but I disagree that the other ways are wrong..

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Thank you for all the info Steve. I've tried cracking the throttle a few times only once when it was in that ''warm up'' mode and I fouled my plug, which was the only plug I've ever fouled on this bike so that's why I find that for myself, following this method has been the best so far. How do you warm up a TPI bike? PS. I didn't say any other methods were wrong here! This is just what works for me and what KTM recommends. I appreciate your input!

@SreidMX

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtbk9557 no problem, we have a couple TM tpi bikes and we warm them up the same way we warm up carb bikes, probably 20 seconds of fast idle and slowly bring up the steady engine speed. Until the rads are warm, then lightly blip the throttle once you have some heat in it. The goal is to build heat as quickly as possible, without letting it just idle. Now that being said, we’ve let them idle and they are just fine either way. Never fouled a plug on the three bikes. But, TM has an electronic power valve, a different throttle body compared to KTM and the ecu is emoticon and not bosch or whatever ktm uses. So that’s a ton of variables different that what you are using. Could be apples to oranges. I’m surprised people are fouling plugs.. maybe ktm has a super rich enrichment tune to compensate for really cold environments..

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

I see what you're saying. But yeah, if I do that on my bike, it's a fouled plug for sure haha!

@SreidMX

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtbk9557 lameeeee

@SkinnySkinch

2 жыл бұрын

@@SreidMX I have fouled 12 plugs in the first 10 hours on my 2020 250XC TPI. Doing the method you're suggesting is exactly why I kept fouling plugs. You MUST let these KTM/Husky TPI bikes simply idle without ANY throttle input until warm or you will foul plugs left and right. I will admit my 2019 300XCW was much much better running than my 2020 250XC is. They changed something from the 19s to 20s and it wasn't for the better, at least in my case.

Stock Of cold star o shock on ? Tho start?

I fouled 3 plug on my brand new ( 3 hours on it ) 2023 250SX i use to rev it like the old carb bikes when warming it up could this be the reason?

@dtbk9557

11 ай бұрын

I would say yes Your ECU already makes it richer when cold. Revving it will only add more fuel (mixed with oil) onto your plug

I have a 2023 ktm and I have already lost a lot of spark plugs. How long should I leave the motorbike on with the cooling shock on?

@dtbk9557

Жыл бұрын

Let it idle until the radiator is hot to the touch is a good rough guideline

Getting a te300i today and nervous as hell with all the talk of ceasing up and all. Thanks

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Warm it up good before any action! Never had any issues with mine and ran it in -20°C many times Enjoy!

@lukefish7562

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtbk9557hey I appreciate that a lot. Got a little nervous with talk of seizing everywhere. Thanks for getting back to me! Cheers! 🏍💨

I wish I had seen this video about 6 spark plugs ago! Having just transitioned from 4 strokes to my 2022 TE150i there has been a learning curve to preserving spark plugs…

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped you out! I've had the same issue so that's why I made that video.

@jamaljackson9879

2 жыл бұрын

It’s crazy because this seems logical. I spoke with KTM and they absolutely disagree. Fml!

@human1513

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamaljackson9879 Yes KTM and all the dealers & racers I spoke with all said, "Do not let them idle to warm up. They are not made to idle at any time. On a normal summer day start it. Put your googles on. Start riding it for a minute or 2. Then ride it normally. So idle at cold start up for 30 seconds then put it in gear and ride it. At idle let it idle but most said hold the throttle open a little for most of the 30 seconds. See my post above with a link to a former KTM factory tech.

@jamaljackson9879

2 жыл бұрын

@@human1513 yes it’s crazy. Thank you! Some guy posted an extremely convincing video about how the tpi works when cold idling etc.

@jamaljackson9879

2 жыл бұрын

@@human1513 kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKWru8eqpbK8Zpc.html

Efi bikes don't have a choke. It's a fast idle button, as there is nothing to 'ckoke'. The ecu adds the extra fuel.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Yep you're right. My bad

Well Done. TBI is the SAME as well. I confirmed with my Husky, GG rep who confirmed with Tech Support at KTM HQ. ( I am a dealer).

@dtbk9557

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@jbsucka4157

9 ай бұрын

Well the Manual suggests otherwise

@reddirtmoto4841

7 ай бұрын

​@jbsucka4157 That's what my 22 te250i manual says when cold starting. Never try to increase rpm at idke during warm-up. Just do the cold start valve and let it idle till warm.

That chain slack!

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Haha that video was filmed right after a day of riding on a brand new chain

What exhaust is that? FMF Powercore 2?

@dtbk9557

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is!

Ktm should of put a temp gadge standard and warning stickers on all tpi models because bike shops don’t care or know .

Well said! I would add something else! You'll extend the life of your tpi engine. By warning up my 250tpi 2020 the same way..I still have the genuine piston and spark plug..at 160 hours 👍

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have to agree. My bike is getting right up there with you and same for me!

@Cristian-Filip

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtbk9557 I might find myself in need of a top end anyway, as a precaution...as my lad is riding my bike now..he's 14 and he really put it to work ..😅 His 150tpi is definitely more suitable for my age... Have a look and subscribe if you'd like so to his channel ! Enduro&Trials Channel We are going to upload a detailed video about making a wiring loom and proper fitting grip heaters on tpi bikes!

@Cristian-Filip

2 жыл бұрын

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@ollie6512

2 жыл бұрын

Wow spark plug lasting 160 hours on a 2 stroke that is mental

It’s interesting that it sounds exactly the same as a carbureted bike but it’s not warmed up yet. Why? I thought the TPI computer should read engine temperature and shoot the right amount of gas in? I don’t know.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

It's the powervalve that wont open because of engine temperature. I believe as a safety. Im not a very technical guy but that would make sense to me

@human1513

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtbk9557 Nope. The power valve is 100% mechanical. No controls for temperature or anything else people make up. It has an adjustment with 2 springs next to & just rearward of the water pump on the lower right side. PS, I am a licenced mechanic & Engineering technician. I have spoken with a former KTM designer, modifier & tester for KTM & other off-road manufacturers Owner of the largest KTM parts supplier in the U.S.A.. See my post above, my most recent one with a link to a former KTM factory tech ...

KTM says nothing about the warm up procedure in the manual. At least not for my KTM 300 EXC TPI Erzberg 2021. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I usually start it without touching the air-by-pass valve (it isn’t a choke as someone else already stated). Let it idle for a little while, around a minute. Then start to blip the throttle occasionally and raise the RPMs. Just listen to the engine for what it wants. What you want is an even warm up across the piston and the cylinder - so easy does it. Or else the piston will warm up faster and expand in the cylinder = bad. Never fouled a plug.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

My manual says to not touch the throttle during idle on warm up. Lots of people have had good luck with different methods. However I've noticed a strong majority that don't have as much luck. Personally when it's idling on warm up in cold weather (between 0° and -25° Celcius), if I blip the throttle at any time given, it's a fouled plug 100% of the time. I do agree with warming up the piston and the barrel evenly. It just makes sense!

@jboive

2 жыл бұрын

@@dtbk9557 what manual do you have? This is for the 2021 models: mobil.ktmshop.se/bike-manuals/21_3214220_en_OM.pdf All it says is that you should not touch the throttle when you press the start button. Anyway. Maybe a little provocative title when there’s clearly more than one way. 😉

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Name me 1 successful channel who doesn't have any provocative title to a degree 😉

New tbi doesn’t have a manual choke

Why use the knob, it only causes it to run more lean and rev more, it's not a true choke. Otherwise I agree, let it warm up idling

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know! Thanks for the input mate

@Outdoorsnmotors

7 ай бұрын

Because if you start it up cold and you’re running the normal fuel ratio then you’ll foul spark plugs because it’s not hot enough to burn all of the oil. Using the knob will save your spark plugs, most spark plugs get fouled when starting them up. Also a lot of people don’t realize that these new Ktm’s need to run 95 octane, it says it in the manual.

Nothing warms your bike up like 15000rpm and 120:1 fuel mix.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha. I like to warm up with a tiger torch when im off camera...

I've been doing it the wrong way.

@billybobbubbawubba9457

2 жыл бұрын

Starting procedure makes a big difference! Try it, you got nothing to lose.

@dtbk9557

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Made a big difference for me too!

@billybobbubbawubba9457

2 жыл бұрын

I found that doing it the wrong way will make it run crappy a long time!