“Wait, aren’t you that guy who tried to run me down on your scooter when I was 10?”

@thefknscarecrow

Ай бұрын

(Because last second he sensed the powerful force in him)

@davepegington9066

Ай бұрын

​@@thefknscarecrow No

Not gonna lie “what could you hate enough to beat me?” “Myself” is such a great line, and would be amazing in a movie or show

@fortunecookie4080

Ай бұрын

it describes vader perfectly in just 1 question. truly perfect

Sidious definitely knew. If he did not orchestrate it beforehand, he would have sensed Maul. I think that Vader knew that too, hence the second of hesitation before following his master. That second was him remembering that he had nothing else in the galaxy left to live for, so he might as well continue trudging along behind the master he despised and distrusted

@tstreb66

Ай бұрын

Knowing Palpatine, he always had a backup plan even if he could forsee the future.

@ChillestNilla1999

Ай бұрын

This doesnt exist its fake. Darth maul and vader are on different timelines didnt know eachother existed

@rjserr

Ай бұрын

Darth Maul only died like two years before A New Hope, watch Rebels.​@@ChillestNilla1999

@jrose6048

24 күн бұрын

@@ChillestNilla1999watch rebels, they were aware of each other but didnt fight each other. And maul probably knew vader was anakin or had an idea at least.

@JarOfGreed

23 күн бұрын

Maul was aware of sidious plan to make Anakin his final apprentice so I'm sure he was capable of putting two and two together.

ahhh, Legends. gone but never forgotten. real Star Wars

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

Its not gone, they still publish Legends books and you can read them at any time 👍

@pjusttheletterpreally.noth2995

2 ай бұрын

​@RetneysHolocron If they still publish them... WHY do they not make them canon again?!

@123ultramaster

2 ай бұрын

@@pjusttheletterpreally.noth2995 Just think about it like a Multiverse like Marvel stuff then dont care about "canon" its just different timelines :d

@MasterJade

2 ай бұрын

Retney is right actually. @pjusttheletterpreally.noth2995 "Legends" is not a category of fanfic or random what if stories that never happened in the universe. It's a continuity. Legends doesn't necessarily need to be called "Canon", Legends is already canon in itself, it has its own canon levels. Legends is one of the two continuities/canons of Star Wars that LucasFilm has recognized and re-released content from. Legends games are still getting updates, Disney is still re-releasing content, not only re-releasing it, but making as collections it. Legends even got new content years later, with the 108th issue of Star Wars comics in 2019. New content came to Legends after years. So I mean Legends is *A* Star Wars canon, it's *A* continuity. It has its own canon system. It doesn't need to be canon as well, LucasFilm already accepts Legends. I hope I've made myself clear. In fact, the concept of Legends itself was created by Disney. After the Star Wars franchise was reset, they rebranded the old canon into a separate continuity. I think Disney should start projects to create content for Legends. New books, graphic novels, comics, that would be great...

@derekscanlan4641

Ай бұрын

It's garbage like this story that caused The Mouse to de-canonise it all. Vader's characterisation is all wrong and the way he wins the fight is ridiculously implausible

This used to be one of my favorite stories back in the day glad you brought it back up

Truly an insane duel. Thank you for making a video about it.

Legends continuity is so good. Maybe we will get more of it one day.

Awesome video Retney! I really like how Darth Maul and Vader fought it was really cool.

I will say this Vader, knowing what he himself went through and survived [on Mustafar] by tapping into the dark side, should not be THAT shocked about Maul surviving as well

So Anakin got to duel Maul after all......

@h20dies

2 ай бұрын

No, Vader did.

@dap4699

Ай бұрын

Same shit. ​@@h20dies

@karlylove9791

Ай бұрын

Wrong buttface. Anakin is not Vader.

@thefknscarecrow

Ай бұрын

​@@h20dies Anakin was always Vader. You just didn't pay enough attention. There's also deleted scenes you know. Movie archive has a 5 1/2 hours version of episode 3

@USMC-es4yy

Ай бұрын

If it was just anakin without the vader suit to hold him back it wouldn't of even lasted that long.Anakin used his rage during battle even before becoming vader which made him even better.

So Vader being mostly machine actually made him strong enough to defeat Maul.

This is my dream project to see in live action or animated man! 🔥 video as always

Star Trek redshirts have a better survival rate than stormtroopers. Either go with Vader and get killed by Vader or go separately and get killed off screen

I remember reading this comic long ago. And it makes sense to the Sith hate equals strength and after all Vader had done killing the Jedi, killing Padme, his self loathing was as effective if not more as Maul’s hate for everything else.

@jeffs7764

Ай бұрын

what is the name of this comic ?

your Commentary is Awesome!! #Vader #Jedi #DarthMaul #Skywalker

Legends are best…

what? Vader was like, 9 when Maul got killed by Obi Wan. Maul would have chopped Anakin's head off easily at that stage.

@PforPwned

Күн бұрын

Yeah I don’t get it. I understand how qui gon dying led obi wan to fail anakin but as far as a duel? I’m pretty sure maul was dead before anakin even held his first lightsaber. So confused

The Vader comics are some of the greatest ever

Maul was cool asf tho ngl

Such a great story.

There's still hope for this to happen in canon

Hold the fuck up. DARTH MILENNIAL

@o-shawnspecific80

Ай бұрын

He went to the dark side after seeing every show, video game and movie from his childhood horribly rebooted.

Damn thats epic

Thankfully this isn't cannon because it is stupid. Vader would have force slammed Maul over and over again until he was no more than a pile of gore on the floor while interrogating him "You are part of the rebel alliance and a traitor! CONFESS!" _bonk_ "Where are the death star plans?"

@lordsknight4516

2 күн бұрын

I see you don't really know anything about Star Wars!

Crazy machine more than man....

Bravo 👏🏽

We desperately need a Vader and Sidious movie or series

@ContemporaryCompendium

2 ай бұрын

No we don't.

@ritz373

2 ай бұрын

@@ContemporaryCompendium not until Disney are gone, at least

@yitschaqyasharahla4347

2 ай бұрын

@@ritz373 F Disney

@danman6431

2 ай бұрын

It’s called starwars episode 1-6

@atilax6452

2 ай бұрын

Cant. They are white guys.

Wow... he hated himself... never considered that

@actionkato2133

10 күн бұрын

It's really the basis of the Vader character. Vader's self loathing and self hate is what he drew on for his power. Basically most sith draw from hate and anger outwardly. Vader's hate and anger came from within

I wish they would have fought on film. I bet it was a duel of the ages

I have this Comic. I found it to be very very cool to see 2 Sith Lord go 1 on 1 to The Deaths.

@davidb9284

2 ай бұрын

What comic is it?

@raidenn6266

2 ай бұрын

​@davidb9284 Star wars tales #9

@davidb9284

2 ай бұрын

@@raidenn6266 great 👍🏻

@michaelgarcia8602

2 ай бұрын

@@davidb9284 Star Wars Tales of Jedi.

@michaelgarcia8602

2 ай бұрын

@@raidenn6266 I believe that it.

I have this comic, absolutely love it too. But how do we know it takes place 0 BBY?? Where is the year stated in the comic? Or is it in like an old reference book

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

We assume it’s 0 BBY because they are searching for the stolen Death Star plans from A New Hope

@kevinvassago

2 ай бұрын

@RetneysHolocron OK cool. Ty👍

@matthewtjeerdsma2549

2 ай бұрын

0BBY? Darn. I'd heard a bit about this story before, and assumed it was how Vader programmed PROXY with Maul's image and fighting style. Oh well. Still a cool story.

@kevinvassago

2 ай бұрын

@matthewtjeerdsma2549 it's such a dope comic. I have a feeling in future content we're gunna see maul fight Vader too. The way he was so frightened by him in Rebels, and how he knew he couldn't defeat Vader alone. It sounded as if he fought Vader b4. That doesn't sound like something Filoni would just not address. It may take awhile, but I bet we'll see it eventually

@SraMacaco

15 күн бұрын

@@RetneysHolocronCould you please give me details on where I can find this? I’m pretty new to the material outside of the movies. Thank you!

It was all apart of the Will of ‘The Force’. SIDIOUS, just as Satan, only in control of the temporal plane of existence. The temporal worlds. Through ‘the Force’ we will always be redeemable.

They had some hella ways to keep anyone from copying the plans of the death star.

I don't even think Darth Vader (after getting the suit) was a good saber duelist. Sure, he beat Luke in ESB, but Luke was an inexperienced kid. He beat 60-70 year old Obi Wan in ANH, but Obi whooped him in the Obi Wan series, and obviously beat him before on Mustafar. In Rogue One, no one else had a saber. Luke kicked Vader's ass in ROTJ - some deleted parts early on in the fight show Luke getting several solid hits in.

Yoshimitsu Skywalker

Man Anakin. Your story just keeps getting sadder

Should be the plot of Rogue II

Calling Vader “skywalker” was the exact second he lost.

@UnoDoseMedia

12 күн бұрын

If Vader knew or had even an iota of knowledge that there was a way to get people to come back from the dead then he would be infatuated with it,in an attempt to make Padme come back to life like Darth Sidious had promised to show Anakin SO long ago. Does anyone else believe this to be true? So I think it is a bit fetching of the writers to create a story like this.

...so how many times has Maul been killed now? I'm at 3

This is more of a what if comic

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

No, Star Wars Tales is part of the overall EU continuity!

@danman6431

2 ай бұрын

@@RetneysHolocron Clonewars season 1-6 are also cannon so this contradicts that.

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

@@danman6431 That's cause CW contradicts like the entire EU 💀 From what I understand, that's why a lot of Legends fans have beef with it

@danman6431

2 ай бұрын

@@RetneysHolocron it is true and technically cannon. Also there is another comic where maul comes back and fights obi wan on tattooine.

They should do this in an animation. Get the guy who voices Darth Maul and James Earl Jones and do a DC type animation. Oh wait Lucasfilm is headed with Kathleen Kennedy. Never mind, she’ll just screw it up by having Rey suddenly appear in and beat them both because she’s great.

what the name of this comic

@RetneysHolocron

Ай бұрын

It's from the Dark Horse Star Wars Tales series

Everything maul said to vader is facts 😂

Random question Did dooku know that sidious was palpatine? Would sidious actually trust him with that information in AotC, knowing he's still technically in the jedi order? Even by the time of RotS, sure he expects anakin to finish him, but imagine anakin doesnt, they capture dooku and he starts talking... I guess he does look over at palpatine like "wait did you just betray me?" So i guess by that point he had to know, but i wonder when exactly he found out. If he did before he left the jedi order, damn, that is one hell of a ballsy move by Palpati e

@darthlt4630

2 ай бұрын

Yes he knew everything

@simplyskrypt3914

2 ай бұрын

@@darthlt4630 even before the clone wars? Damn. Like i said. Ballsy

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

Yes, Dooku knew Palpatine was Sidious

@Chris-bv1bk

28 күн бұрын

​@@simplyskrypt3914Dooku literally tells Kenobi that Palps is sidious in AOTC lol "What if I told you that the Republic was now under the control of a dark lord of the Sith?" Obi Wan didn't believe him because "the jedi would sense it." To me it's one of the most significant moments of the fall of the Jedi/Republic because it perfectly highlights what they'd become. Arrogant. They believed that they were too wise and strong for the Sith to ever rise again.

I like how you polled me here

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

Dude thanks for actually coming from the poll 🙏

They where kind of right they knew Vader wasn’t completely gone

rip maul again

So did Sidious know? & want to be there when Mall won & killed em all off b4 they could say anything to Vader?

I love starwars and you are a super dork

How could they fight? Maul was cut in half and fell down a thousand foot drop.

Did Vader stab himself through his actual torso with his organs or did he stab himself through a completely machine part of his torso? I thought his whole torso was still in tact and there was just some machinery embedded? If he did stab through his actual torso, wow, he survived that shit.

@RetneysHolocron

9 күн бұрын

Vader's torso was still organic. But he did have some tubes and wires that went into his chest so he could breathe and stuff!

One of the most iconic rematches in Star Wars lore and nobody (masses that dont read the SW extended Universe media) has ever heard of it... Also another point, them saying Darth Maul was "resurrected" is not accurate(at least if your basing his story off accurate verified Star Wars canon). Maul didnt die when he was cut in half, using his force powers to stop bleeding out, he then eventually set out: fusing together cyberneticly with mechanical prosthetic legs, then rehabilitating himself through training to become the agile swordsman he once was. Just a prime example of Sith propaganda, spreading lies and enciting fear and suspense through anyone who will hear it and latch on to the darkness, confusion, and fear that clearly feeds the Dark side of the force.

@natryan8547

2 ай бұрын

This is AFTER OLD ben kenobi KILLED maul. Not when young obi wan kenobi cut him in half

@austinfuller8323

2 ай бұрын

@@natryan8547 ok that really makes sense then haha. Listen to me above trying to sound based n shit. Im a pretty heavy dabbler in extended SW Lore but by no means a expert. I was obv more or less refereing the clone wars "Darth Maul and Savage Oppress Arc" as you could probably catch onto. But any and all info is appreciated always even in the form of correction.... And look on the bright side, Nobody was Expecting "Old Uncle Ben-Kenobi": Obi Wan to turn Maul into Sith Brand Gorilla Glue™

Is the same Maul who would later be reintroduced in The Clone Wars, or is he a different Maul altogether?

@youuglymess

2 ай бұрын

The Clone Wars happened before Anakin became Vader,on top of that,This Maul is a mere clone

Do more longer videos like this. Your other videos are too short

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

I don’t worry about runtime when making a video. I just focus on telling the story and sharing info. I don’t like when creators pad their runtime and make the videos longer on purpose

@jakeb8838

2 ай бұрын

@@RetneysHolocron ok I get it. I still enjoy your videos and they’re amazing. Keep up the great work!

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much dude 🙏

🤘🏿

Rule of 2?

How could he be walking, after being impaled by his own saber?

@raidenn6266

2 ай бұрын

I mean, are you surprised Vader has insane endurance feats?

@kevinkeenan-2.1

2 ай бұрын

@@raidenn6266 well I know he survive being burnt alive, so maybe he used the force to heal?

@raidenn6266

2 ай бұрын

​@kevinkeenan6785 Probably not on the spot, he did it later I do recall he tried to use the force several times to cure his burns and lungs, but never was able to heal them fully

@kevinkeenan-2.1

2 ай бұрын

@@raidenn6266 Probably because he would have to use hatred to heal. But if he doesn’t hate then the whole procedure will undo itself.

@raidenn6266

2 ай бұрын

@@kevinkeenan-2.1 In shadows of the empire (legends novel set between ESB and Rotj), Vader focused on his hatred and was able to breathe without mechanical aid, until he started thinking about Luke and the emotions broke his focus

Only someone who know absolutely nothing about fighting would script the following line: "Maul was considered one of the greatest swordsmen/duelist." In order to be considered one of the greatest if not THE greatest, must have fought more than practice. This is one of the most overused hypes Star Wars implements. It cheapens the meaning.

Wasn't Anakin a little boy at the time of Maul's death? I am not convinced Maul survived getting his spine severed by a lightsaber.

@uponthisrockbyjoelorr3568

2 ай бұрын

You may not be convinced but it’s cannon…. And he used the force to keep himself alive also can’t really assume the anatomy of a Zabrak is the same as a human. Finally it’s a fictional series so they can write the story they want. 🤷

@Lily_Hasson666

2 ай бұрын

Yes he was he was around 9 years old when maul got killed by obi wan

Maul were more sith than Vader

This comic was never Canon even in the original Legends Canonization same with the Old Wounds one were Old Ben Kenobi fought Spider Legged Maul in the day time on Tatooine they were still fun stories though yeah.

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

Star Wars Tales was canon to the overall EU. The only comic that wasn’t considered canon was the “Infinites” series

@matthewmann8969

2 ай бұрын

​@@RetneysHolocronEven if so this was not TPM Maul but a more powerful and skilled clone that had lots of prep time and environmental advantages and favoritism from the dark ones which is why he did do well against Vader on even footing Vader would of easily won yeah.

@GeneFOX70

Ай бұрын

​​@@matthewmann8969writer of the comic has stated multiple times that the resurrected/clone Maul is equal in power and skill to himself from TPM and that both he and Vader used their full power against each other. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z3uouLuAorWcZag.htmlsi=gSHZkUt01earrmGV

@matthewmann8969

3 күн бұрын

​@@GeneFOX70Let's say that is true it should be noted that this Maul had a environmental advantage over Vader with Vaders fears of lava, magma, and volcanoes as well as the dark prophets favoring Maul giving him a motivational boost plus the fight was more on there physical abilities, unarmed combat, and lightsaber skills plus Vader was still not fully used to his suit yet on equal ground and with just force powers then Vader would of won plus Maul had lots of prep time that Vader did not for this fight plus lots of use of don moch yeah.

What comic is this from?

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

Star Wars Tales Issue 9

Is it cannon?

@RetneysHolocron

2 ай бұрын

No, this is Legends

This is obviously legend, we saw Maul die in Rebels after Obi-Wan on Tatooine.

Maul died. Sliced in half by obi wan. Let it go people.

@agustinlomeli836

23 сағат бұрын

No

@kyloooooo

16 сағат бұрын

@@agustinlomeli836 😲

But Maul Fought Anakin a few times so Vader did fight him kinda

maul has been clapped so many times youd think he would be in mexico or a clinic- he got clapped TWICE by anakins padawan

A good summary. But can we stop inappropriately calling everything "insane"? This has recently become a nonsensical term applied to anything for any reason. Use your brain to think of an appropriate adjective, especially if you make YT videos.

Except he didn't

Maul better

Shouldnt Vader be significantly better than Maul?

@user-iu1ru1qz7u

2 күн бұрын

For sure, this is the typical stupid writing where they purposely weaken a character to create a conflict to overcome. It's like you're superman is always an idiot who somehow gets into trouble, yet when he's the bad guy they show that he's actually invincible. Big letdown whenever "writers" do this.

Vader loses c'mon

Except Maul was eventually killed by an old obi wan, not vader!

@motoryzen

Ай бұрын

Last understood Star Wars Episode 1 showed a young Obi-Wan Kenobi killing Darth Maul chopping his body in half

@angelus3605

Ай бұрын

@motoryzen yes but if you watch star wars the clone wars, and star war rebels you'll see that Darth maul miraculously survived his fight with young obi wan

@justinrancourt7656

Ай бұрын

This is legends not canon. Said it in the beginning of the video.

@angelus3605

Ай бұрын

@@justinrancourt7656 still doesn't change the fact.

The plot armor is crazy , I don't believe robotic vader can match the speed of maul , maul should win this fight 10 outta 10 times ,

@shanebristow1955

Ай бұрын

Skill will always beat speed not to mention vader was like triple the strength in force

Who cares? Star wars sucks. It's become a joke. Let the corpse rot. Even 4 5 6 and 1 2 3 have become garbage..... because it all just leads to disney

Lol, terrible story.

@forresttaylor7134

2 ай бұрын

I thought it was good

@vonproperson8296

Ай бұрын

Most Star Wars is bad story character development. Only reason I’m not more invested

No they didn’t fight- so dumb

This is another reason why i will always say vader is a weak ass sith hows he nearly losing to maul a dude destined to fail 😂 how many times this dude get his ass beat obi killed maul twice over and once with single strike

Because you wrote (insane) I won't watch it.

@RetneysHolocron

Ай бұрын

Congratulations

Vader doesn't believe Sidious at the end there.