The Only Thing Belle Can't Fix Is Herself

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The IDW Sonic comics have done a great job portraying the struggles of humanity and incorporating them into their stories. One of the most fascinating tales of struggle and redemption is that of Belle the Tinkerer. With the tragic loss of her father, the evolution and journey of this character is one that is sure to captivate you.
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  • @haonneogip4740
    @haonneogip4740Ай бұрын

    Belle is like a D&D NPC who was supposed to only be around for a one-off quest, only to stick around in the campaign longer than anyone planned, even the DM, and the DM isn't sure what to do with her but is doing their best to tell her story in the middle of the greater story. Honestly, Belle's story and character progression aren't so bad when they're told in one sitting instead of stretched out over several issues.

  • @sethisevilone02

    @sethisevilone02

    Ай бұрын

    just have her go to scrapnik island and help mecha sonic rebuild the eggcarrier

  • @Trashbaggs

    @Trashbaggs

    Ай бұрын

    Just like shadow

  • @bensoncheung2801

    @bensoncheung2801

    Ай бұрын

    143rd 👍

  • @muchachowitz6803

    @muchachowitz6803

    Ай бұрын

    I know almost nothing about Sonic, I have no inherent interest in learning more about Sonic, and me clicking on this video was kind of a random fluke of procrastination... and yeah, within the first 3 minutes of the video I was already like "I wanna steal this idea for an NPC".

  • @eng3d

    @eng3d

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@muchachowitz6803friendly advice: run now . Once you enter into the Sonic fandom, then there is no exit

  • @tazqball1605
    @tazqball1605Ай бұрын

    I like how that in the IDW comics, Belle is his daughter, but in the games, Sage is his daughter.

  • @valentinkambushev4968

    @valentinkambushev4968

    Ай бұрын

    Belle is the daughter of Mr Tinker, Sage is the daughter of Dr. Eggman.

  • @lazlow8788

    @lazlow8788

    29 күн бұрын

    But the comics are considered canon so the games are in the future while the comics are before Frontiers.

  • @dissonanceparadiddle

    @dissonanceparadiddle

    29 күн бұрын

    And then the fandom has omelette. I like to picture them as three sisters that are back at home when eggman is doing his shenanigans. Maybe that's just the Powerpuff girl fan in me

  • @BrakSplash

    @BrakSplash

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@lazlow8788 I still don't know where that proof is. I read that the video games may take "elements" from the comics, such as Tangle, but that's it.

  • @keiroty7187
    @keiroty7187Ай бұрын

    Belle deserves better than egg man honestly how she helps others is great

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    I love that despite what life has thrown her way she is always willing to help others

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    Well, she could still stand to NOT repair robots who want nothing more than to kill her friends.

  • @BrakSplash

    @BrakSplash

    28 күн бұрын

    She's got a lot of friends and support. She's fine

  • @OrangeToadGamer
    @OrangeToadGamerАй бұрын

    I hope Sage makes an appearance in IDW since it would be really interesting to see her and Belle's reactions & interactions with each other since they both represent different versions of Eggman's psyche

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    I hope to see that as well!

  • @partyrock4144

    @partyrock4144

    Ай бұрын

    I can totally imagine Sage trying to pull a “join the dark side Big sis” without understanding the disparity between eggman and Mr. Tinker

  • @Rhyusfox

    @Rhyusfox

    Ай бұрын

    As I can see Sage pulling "So, father... why am I just now finding out I have an older sister?"

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    Belle already has Metal Sonic for that. They are antitheses and represent their creators well. Belle repairs; Metal destroys. Belle is meek; Metal is bold. Belle is... *sigh* good; Metal is evil.

  • @theepic1944

    @theepic1944

    Ай бұрын

    Belle represents more than just that.

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzardАй бұрын

    "The IDW Sonic comics have done a great job portraying the struggles of humanity and incorporating them into their stories." That hits hard. We need more of this.

  • @valentinkambushev4968

    @valentinkambushev4968

    Ай бұрын

    Except Shadow.

  • @jojounicorn4610

    @jojounicorn4610

    Ай бұрын

    @@valentinkambushev4968yeah….they stereotyped shadow like a lot of sonic media today but that’s due to sega’s new mandates (i’m pretty sure)

  • @deniseg9210

    @deniseg9210

    Ай бұрын

    @@jojounicorn4610yeah unfortunately Sega seems to think that fans want Shadow to be edgy even though a lot of fans have made it clear they don’t want that.

  • @Norinia

    @Norinia

    Ай бұрын

    ⁠@@jojounicorn4610Stereotyped how? There were writing restrictions on him for an extremely long time (I had no idea there was such. Pretty stupid hindsight) And honestly, I thought how they wrote him was pretty on key. The dude’s suffered a ton. It makes sense he was willing to be ‘the person’ who killed Eggman if the others couldn’t, because he doesn’t want them to suffer the same fate he did (as he spared the humans who attacked Space Colony Ark, choosing instead to run away with Maria as scared children) Then in the Metal Virus arc, he was suffering from massive guilt of not ignoring the others and just killing Eggman (when really, he should have felt guilty that he just walked off and didn’t stick around to guard ‘Mr.Tinker’ while there was an impersonator around.) and kept going non-stop with no sleep. That’s why he was so ‘edgy’ there. Top that, when Rouge yelled ‘Run’, he had a PTSD episode, remember how he ran with Maria but it got her killed. That’s why he tripled down instead of running off the virus. Beyond that, when I last saw him in IDW (during that ski resort arc) it seemed more like he just didn’t know how to interact with everyone, which makes sense since he grew up in an isolated space station, and everyone gets pretty snarky with him (they’re just trying to joke around, but makes sense how that’s off putting to someone who never experienced that before) Come ‘The Murder of Sonic The Hedgehog’, it seems like he’s starting to take steps to reach out and make connections, given he actually went to Amy’s birthday to participate in the game, and he took drastic steps to get her a gift she’d like (when he realized everyone else got her something) because it mattered to him to make her happy. And finally the biggest step of them all (because Amy insisted) he’s going to go to the concert with her some time after the game’s events. His standoffish nature makes sense when you take things into account. It makes sense he’s nervous about the idea of being rejected by the group, after what he initially did and with how he grew up with only a few people and only knew the same people every day. Of course he’s not going to be a social butterfly, but he IS actually trying now. He’s making steps, and I think storytelling with him will get better now :)

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Norinia Yeah; meanwhile Sonic kept selfishly endangering innocent lives for the sake of giving freedom to the biggest evil **stards on the planet!

  • @nightmarecrimson9121
    @nightmarecrimson9121Ай бұрын

    It's going to be REALLY REALLY sad when Sage comes in the IDW Comics. I'm praying for her future happiness.

  • @joshuarobinson8529

    @joshuarobinson8529

    Ай бұрын

    Sage: (finds a picture of Belle) Father? Who is this girl? Eggman: A remnant of... other times. Times from before I rebuilt the Empire. Sage: Is she my sister? Eggman: Think of her as more of a morally opposed cousin that happened to be built by my dead amnesia identity. Sage: Starline? Eggman: Starline. (Later...) Belle: Who are you? Sage: I was told to think of you as a morally-estranged cousin. I cannot deny that appellation, given what I have learned of you. Belle: ...I wish we could both have our dads in that man. Sage: Agreed. I would very much have liked a sister. However... Belle: Starline killing my dad? Sage: Indeed.

  • @OtioseFanatic

    @OtioseFanatic

    23 күн бұрын

    I don't think Sage is in the cards. The current canon of Frontiers is that it takes place "five years after IDW." Unless that changes, I doubt sage will be shown in the comics and even if she is it would not be any version of her we see in Frontiers.

  • @joshuarobinson8529

    @joshuarobinson8529

    22 күн бұрын

    @@OtioseFanatic ...Darn.

  • @lpsamyrose

    @lpsamyrose

    19 күн бұрын

    ​@@OtioseFanaticwait where was it confirmed that frontiers takes place 5 years later?

  • @OtioseFanatic

    @OtioseFanatic

    19 күн бұрын

    @@lpsamyrose one of Ian Flynn's write-ups about the game years ago when people IMMEDIATELY asked for Sage to be put into the comic. Apparently Frontiers is meant to be like, the last game in the timeline period with the plot exploring the idea of the characters getting older and even growing apart and having their own adventures like how Amy basically says that after the game is over and they get back she's leaving to go find herself. They even have sonic finally admit his feelings for her to himself but point out that it's "too late now" like it's a forgone conclusion that they probably won't see each other again.

  • @cyberprime9355
    @cyberprime9355Ай бұрын

    Belle is one of those characters that really shows that even if your creator is a monster who's name sends chills down everyone's spine, their legacy isn't your own. Likewise, Belle turned her tragedy into a drive to help other robots or people to be the best they can be, which very few can say they did. Sure, she was born from a falsehood and potential what if...but it doesn't change the fact she is a real being. A being that wants something everyone who is anyone desires as some point: a sense of belonging; purpose at most.

  • @BiggusWeeabus
    @BiggusWeeabusАй бұрын

    Dude, it's going to be VERY depressing to think about Belle when Sage appears in the comics

  • @BrakSplash

    @BrakSplash

    28 күн бұрын

    Why's that? Belle is happy now! She outgrew Eggman and became her own amazing self 😁

  • @novacorponline
    @novacorponlineАй бұрын

    Eggman: "The one thing other than myself I can truly say I care for would be my surrogate daughter... Sage." Belle: "Oh.. Okay then..."

  • @valentinkambushev4968

    @valentinkambushev4968

    Ай бұрын

    Eggman: Oh, there's also the abomina- I mean, daughter made out of wood, I guess.

  • @VoodooVDO

    @VoodooVDO

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@valentinkambushev4968orbot and cubot: what about us?

  • @benjaminmacpherson1336

    @benjaminmacpherson1336

    Ай бұрын

    @@VoodooVDOEggman: HA HA HA!..oh your serious... HA HA HA.!

  • @beed1tybatt3rs

    @beed1tybatt3rs

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@benjaminmacpherson1336Coconuts, Scratch and Grounder walk in.

  • @benjaminmacpherson1336

    @benjaminmacpherson1336

    Ай бұрын

    @@beed1tybatt3rsEggman: HAHAHAHAH- *hack*-*cough* HAHAHA!

  • @lPsychoMax
    @lPsychoMaxАй бұрын

    Belle, metal sonic and sage are the 3 eggman creations who exceed their original purpose. A puppet, a robot, A code. One wants the past, one wants respect, one purpose. In a way they are like parts of eggman's good side calling for help. Eggman wants respect and purpose but had them in the past. Like his 3 creations, he too is trapped in a way he cannot escape. It's just a theory but it makes you think. We never really knew why eggman is evil, he just chose it. A choice he could easily do for good.

  • @BrakSplash

    @BrakSplash

    28 күн бұрын

    Eggman explains already why he terorrizes and does what he does in the comics 😅

  • @JokukranTheileochy

    @JokukranTheileochy

    21 күн бұрын

    I haven't read the comics. What is his reason? Is it just world domination or something?

  • @BrakSplash

    @BrakSplash

    21 күн бұрын

    @JokukranTheileochy Eggman is self-absorbed and thinks he's doing good. Comic issue #23 "I'm bringing peace and Unity to the world" with his brilliance. Of course, Sonic calls him out on it, but Eggman still believes he's right.

  • @tibik.8407
    @tibik.8407Ай бұрын

    I immediately recognised that Lies of P song. That is so many layers of clever, good job.

  • @cofagrigusfan24
    @cofagrigusfan24Ай бұрын

    here is my take on Eggman and Belle's final moments that grin he makes makes me believe that he has plans for her, evil plans turning her from a Tinker into a Robotnik one day, by force

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    It WAS just plain idiotic of her to outright tell him that she interfaced with Metal directly.

  • @angrybrony
    @angrybronyАй бұрын

    I super hope she goes to scrapnik island, the story praticly wrights itself.

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, let her have a humongous family who hopefully will never ever EVER try to welcome Metal Soulless in!

  • @456tyso

    @456tyso

    Ай бұрын

    ​@videogollumer i mean metal sonic wont end up in scrapnik island because hes always retrieved and repaired. but Scrapnik Island is a perfect place for belle since the scrapniks might wanna welcome her

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    @@456tyso Oh no? What if he does, and that's where Eggman has to retrieve him from? What if the Scrapniks finally get off the island BEFORE they come across Metal's battered body? They may very well try to help him, just like Belle stupidly did. She hasn't exactly repented of that either. How can we trust any of them (Belle, Sigma, Mecha Sonic, etc.) to NOT repair him just because he was built by Eggman too?

  • @456tyso

    @456tyso

    Ай бұрын

    @@videogollumer wait thats actually a good question.

  • @BrakSplash

    @BrakSplash

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@videogollumer But Belle already has a family within Restoration. Sure some see her as odd, but she has friends and support from many characters there. In support to defeat Eggman. I doubt she would trade that away to live in an island while her "father" is out there terrorizing people with robots.

  • @alexfrostwalker
    @alexfrostwalkerАй бұрын

    Man, poor Belle. Also RIP Mr. Tinker

  • @partyrock4144
    @partyrock4144Ай бұрын

    It’s gonna be weird once sage gets added to idw cannon. The two are very similar yet very different in important ways. Sage would probably superficially refer to belle as her sister and not understand why belle can’t accept eggman as her father. And belle might have complicated feelings about eggman creating another daughter with a twisted version of what her and Mr. Tinker had.

  • @andrewowens4421

    @andrewowens4421

    Ай бұрын

    Funny thing is, it's not really _twisted_ so to speak about Eggman and Sage's relationship. Eggman legitimately cares for Sage's well-being and was downright hurt when she sacrificed herself to save him. Belle would probably be a bit mad and envious that Sage is getting what she wanted so badly. A genuinely caring father.

  • @partyrock4144

    @partyrock4144

    Ай бұрын

    @@andrewowens4421 yeah which is why I say twisted. It’s what belle and Mr. Tinker had but eggman is explicitly still evil.

  • @DragonStar524
    @DragonStar524Ай бұрын

    All she wanted to do was do good as she was built to do. But when Mr. Tinker disappeared and Eggman resurfaced, she was unfairly turned on. Yet despite being turned on, she continues to do good, even if others may not see it that way. Mr. Tinker may be lost inside Eggman, but she continues to do good to keep his memory alive.

  • @loveyourself-Hannah
    @loveyourself-HannahАй бұрын

    this made my frickin' eyes tear up! I literally had to take a break from this mid-way so I wouldn't cry!

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    Aw im sorry 💙

  • @ZefoniusLinestraf

    @ZefoniusLinestraf

    6 күн бұрын

    I was the same this was surprise to me as a characther i only bought the old issues of archie comics all being comedy and now this new ones touch more mature themes

  • @jackgrove4621
    @jackgrove4621Ай бұрын

    except she did fix herself. She accepted the fact the Tinker is never coming back and made peace with it.

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    Now if only she'd accept that her older evil half-brother is her antithesis and beyond a lost cause.

  • @Aereto

    @Aereto

    Ай бұрын

    And then there's Sage. A truly inquisitive sister who wants to know, given the view point towards Sonic defying seemingly impossible odds.

  • @valentinkambushev4968

    @valentinkambushev4968

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@videogollumer or her sister for that matter.

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    @@valentinkambushev4968 Um, I think you made some wording errors, unless you're talking about Sage.

  • @valentinkambushev4968

    @valentinkambushev4968

    Ай бұрын

    @videogollumer yes, I am talking about Sage, little miss "The world is his to conquer".

  • @kanna231
    @kanna231Ай бұрын

    I feel so sorry for Belle some people doesn't understand of what she's going through they just running their mouths and saying things that they don't know anything of how she feels.

  • @chrisramirez9197
    @chrisramirez9197Ай бұрын

    I get it now. Eggman just was ignorant and oblivious of preserving nature and that is where sonic comes in to stop eggman's advancements. His love for tech blinds him i almost feel a bit bad for some reason, If only he turned on himself to stop his ignorance.

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    Eggman KNOWS what he's doing; he just doesn't care. He only seeks to gratify his own ego, and doesn't care WHO gets hurt in the process. He feels the world disrespected the Robotnik lineage's intelligence; now he's dead set convinced that murdering people and carving up nature as he sees fit will prove he's a genius. In the end, though, it only proves he's a ridiculous manchild who has missed out on ten years of fundamental hickory switch spanking.

  • @Aereto

    @Aereto

    Ай бұрын

    Though we ended up having a trio of the "kids" thanks to both comics and games. Now if we happen to have cross over with the Underground trio due to alternate worlds crossing again...

  • @daizonsmith8627
    @daizonsmith8627Ай бұрын

    12:01 l love how the motorbug helped belle and it's nice to know the robots care for others

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    R.I.P. Motobud

  • @daizonsmith8627

    @daizonsmith8627

    Ай бұрын

    Yep plus that motorbug reminds me of E-102 gamma ​@@SonicTheory96

  • @mindopolis6089
    @mindopolis6089Ай бұрын

    The writing on the comics is unreal

  • @mixofreak
    @mixofreakАй бұрын

    Belle is absolutely going through The Heroine's Labyrinth.

  • @Crimson_Blood_shadows
    @Crimson_Blood_shadowsАй бұрын

    I know that feeling all too well tge feeling of losing everyone you care about and finding out they are not the same as you knew them and the monsters they really are being abandoned and hurt by the people who were supposed to protect you and constantly being dragged into there drama even after the fact its not a feeling you can truly come back from especially when you have experienced it sonce the day you were born..

  • @Crimson_Blood_shadows

    @Crimson_Blood_shadows

    Ай бұрын

    I'm 20 now

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    I'm sorry to hear that. Remember that there will always be those who care about you. I hope you can find comfort in this channel and the Sonic Community 💙

  • @Crimson_Blood_shadows

    @Crimson_Blood_shadows

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@SonicTheory96thank you

  • @Pan-cackes
    @Pan-cackesАй бұрын

    Belle is so cute and original

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    I love her puppet design. Her name is also a play on Tinker Bell

  • @shardinhand1243
    @shardinhand124319 күн бұрын

    bells struggle with her past struck me harder than expected. i so vividly remember my every mistake.

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    19 күн бұрын

    Remember don't linger on your mistakes. Move on and just try your best going forward! 😁

  • @shardinhand1243

    @shardinhand1243

    19 күн бұрын

    @@SonicTheory96 ^^ yeah

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034Ай бұрын

    belle is a good person and id like to see her help as many of her siblings as possible while coming to terms with the likelihood that her father will never return to being mr tinker. I actually read the entire IDW comics run of sonic the hedgehog because I like this video so much and after having read it and the ties, I think the best way for Bell to help her siblings is on scrapnik Island because the inhabitants are in need of repairs, and have already decided to no longer follow their mega maniacal father.

  • @pedrovitor5324
    @pedrovitor5324Ай бұрын

    How can people say this is the worst version of Sonic? It seems so mature yet so Sonic like. I will read these comics, they seem to good to be ignored.

  • @gerbalskerbal766

    @gerbalskerbal766

    Ай бұрын

    They’re illiterate idiots

  • @FakeGokuUltra

    @FakeGokuUltra

    Ай бұрын

    Probably bc of the mostly generic bgs and their... limited nature. Note how the comic never introduced anything as major as the games. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the IDW comics but part of me feels how limited the comic is in sceneries and character progression ; although it doesn't bother me all that much.

  • @evolvingdragon1793

    @evolvingdragon1793

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@FakeGokuUltrawell you can only blame sega for that one

  • @kaxcommentssomethingREAL

    @kaxcommentssomethingREAL

    Ай бұрын

    i think it's time i stop agreeing with people so willingly, this Sonic rocks, to hell with his "rambles" against his fight with Surge... he's tried his hardest to reason with her and things didn't end up exactly how he's imagined... even if the mandates keep the better parts of these characters less apparent, i can't help but still love them all the same...

  • @evolvingdragon1793

    @evolvingdragon1793

    Ай бұрын

    @@kaxcommentssomethingREAL oh I agree the writing is great and I love the characters but Sega isn't helping with these limitations it could be so much better if Sega extended the leash even if it's just a little

  • @user-cq2tq4mi4r
    @user-cq2tq4mi4rАй бұрын

    6:26 nince peice there i love the low self-esteem talk

  • @MSPNova
    @MSPNova25 күн бұрын

    Belle is my favourite character in all of Sonic media next to Cream, and this video perfectly analyses why that is. Her design is wonderful and her personality delightful. She’s one of the most unique characters in the series, and tackles an emotional subject of having family taken away and turning out to not be who you were raised to believe, which I applaud for Evan doing in a series such as this. Thank you for giving this character some much deserved spotlight. I will be sharing this around on my social :)

  • @op_magee
    @op_mageeАй бұрын

    Damn, I cried when I read the note part. . .and I did it again when you covered it, great vid! Edit: Also I'd be down to see a vid on Shadow during the Imperial City incident

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    I have a short on it, but maybe ill cover it in a full video someday!

  • @TheDoomsdayzoner
    @TheDoomsdayzonerАй бұрын

    Considering Egg's reaction to her interfacing with Metal Sonic's mainframe, Bell might be a Chekhov's Rifle.

  • @Eternus_transmogrifus49

    @Eternus_transmogrifus49

    Ай бұрын

    Well, we’ll just have to hope that Belle is strong enough to return to the light if anything happens.

  • @dhark0n332

    @dhark0n332

    Ай бұрын

    IS NOT EVEN A CHEKHOV'S GUN, IT'S RIFLE KKKKKK

  • @TheDoomsdayzoner

    @TheDoomsdayzoner

    Ай бұрын

    @@Eternus_transmogrifus49 well either we get a somewhat happy ending, or we get Cosmo 2.0

  • @user-vm2jz7vb1s
    @user-vm2jz7vb1sАй бұрын

    Jesus, I didn't expect a sonic comic to be so in depth, that was great!

  • @scarleyautja3986
    @scarleyautja3986Ай бұрын

    did not knew her but really love the character and her design is flawless i love puppet characters

  • @OtioseFanatic
    @OtioseFanatic23 күн бұрын

    Belle is legit one of my favorite characters now. I really hope we see more of her.

  • @OtioseFanatic

    @OtioseFanatic

    10 күн бұрын

    I don't why I said "now" like I only just became a fan. Belle was the reason I even got into the IDW comics with her adorable design. She's right up there with Whisper and Tangle as my favorite gals

  • @xabier3932
    @xabier3932Ай бұрын

    I really hope IDW gives us more interactions between her and Metal Sonic.

  • @chrispilcher2024

    @chrispilcher2024

    Ай бұрын

    or her fellow neglected sibling Mecha Sonic...

  • @Darknight-nc4iu
    @Darknight-nc4iuАй бұрын

    To be honest, she could have stayed since eggman offered her a neutral job as a mechanic, but she left because she didn't like eggman and wanted to be on Sonic's side, and eggman was ok with that. Sage's case was different, but Sage stayed with eggman after meeting Sonic, unlike Belle, because Belle never got to really know eggman, and just like Sonic and his friends, they don't know of eggman's good side which eggman hides and barely shows at all

  • @Darknight-nc4iu

    @Darknight-nc4iu

    Ай бұрын

    I mostly put this here because i feel people might ignore eggman's good side.

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    @@Darknight-nc4iu You can't ignore something that's not there in the first place. Thousands if not millions of people were killed and/or emotionally screwed because of him, and he regrets nothing. He's a anti-life monster!

  • @prufan

    @prufan

    Ай бұрын

    @@videogollumer And yet Frontiers shows that he does have one.

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    @@prufan English version only; the original Japanese had him with a more neutral attitude toward Sage. Besides, Ian Flynn stated that his writing for the English version wasn't meant to redeem Eggman. Coming from him, it makes sense; he LOVES to write Eggman as a total monster. Also, the whole notion that IDW is set in the canon of the games is pretty sketchy. I usually roll with the word of the creators, but I have my limits. Between Eggman's vileness and the self-righteous stupidity Sonic showed for most of the comic so far, they both just seemed like radical departures from their game selves. I mean, Eggman straight up tried to render the world uninhabitable, TWICE! Meanwhile, from Issues 6-55; Sonic gave autonomy back to a soulless killing machine, gaslit his friends, ignored their legit concerns, let Eggman off the hook for the Metal Virus, Went hypocrite on his preached ideals TWICE, and practically admitted to treason against his entire planet! I'm glad that phase is over. Anyway, I personally don't think these comics being in the same linear continuity as the games gonna work in the end. Sega & Ian have had to pull back on a lot: two worlds, Mania being in an alternate past, what exactly caused Eggman's evil personality to resurface from Mr. Tinker, etc. In the end, it just feels like they're gonna have to pull back on the games and comics sharing a continuity as well.

  • @theepic1944

    @theepic1944

    Ай бұрын

    I never liked pure evil Eggman because he's a confusion of evil and comedy which doesn't mash well. Sometimes he gets along with sonic and friends completely ignoring all the horrible things he has done. If Eggman is a monster then he and Sonic's friends should not get along, it's like making Albert Wesker get along with Chris Redfield.

  • @valmid5069
    @valmid5069Ай бұрын

    Can’t wait for more great content!!!

  • @FilmmakeroftheFuture
    @FilmmakeroftheFutureАй бұрын

    Belle’s mission to reform her “brothers and sisters” sounds like what Lilo did for Stitch’s cousins in “Lilo and Stitch: The Series.”

  • @florindaoxlaj5131
    @florindaoxlaj5131Ай бұрын

    😢😢❤❤ I feel so bad for Belle and I kind of feel the same way too.😢😢❤❤

  • @Rman94
    @Rman94Ай бұрын

    If they follow up on it in the future, Characters I hope Belle could meet are the ScrapNiks from the "ScrapNik Island Mini".

  • @mickeymouse-eb2qv
    @mickeymouse-eb2qv4 күн бұрын

    I like how she has a jaw like a puppet

  • @animatronikki
    @animatronikkiАй бұрын

    Thank you so much for this breakdown of Belle's character in the story IDW is telling, I think you laid out her journey and struggles marvelously. As someone who's been a Sonic fan since game 1, it's thrilling to see such stories being told in this world with such robust and, if I may be personal, resonant characters. I won't lie, Tails was since 1992 the character in the canon that I related to the most, as the younger sibling, "Player 2", sympathetic engineer seeing the humanity in the machine, but in Belle I have actually come to find an even more compelling character *as* the machine sympathizing with herself. As you said, her healing must come from within, and that's a hard journey and one I can really relate to. Belle has rapidly become my favorite character in the franchise, and that's no small feat given how much Tails has meant to me as a character over the years! I have to give kudos to the writers working for IDW with their treatment of Belle, along with so many other characters I believe they're handling very well. Tangle and Whisper, to name a few more. I hope we see more of Belle's journey going forward, she's such a fascinating actor in the universe of Sonic!

  • @alinthenarrowgauge6814
    @alinthenarrowgauge6814Ай бұрын

    Imagine what might happen when she meets Sage...

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    That would be a very interesting meeting

  • @stephvondames6369
    @stephvondames6369Ай бұрын

    Poor Belle

  • @DjFizzy-ye7fb
    @DjFizzy-ye7fbАй бұрын

    i love this so mush didn't know nothing about Bell United now and now i want to make a characters exactly like bell but with my only ides.

  • @jaygooese4242
    @jaygooese4242Ай бұрын

    Vector is so nice to her 10:10

  • @k.ms.perkins8644
    @k.ms.perkins864411 күн бұрын

    Sonic always Cares about eggman so much then others

  • @Yuuko_Masami
    @Yuuko_Masami4 күн бұрын

    she's so underrated just like other characters in the franchise. it's just sad that they have no time whatsoever to give them a chance to shine.

  • @florindaoxlaj5131
    @florindaoxlaj5131Ай бұрын

    😢😢 I'M CRY TOO MUCH

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    🥺💙

  • @Aroace_Editor
    @Aroace_EditorАй бұрын

    Imma steal belles story for dnd character lol

  • @GunboatStudios
    @GunboatStudiosАй бұрын

    ...I really hope we get a Scrapnik Isle 2 with Belle showing up. Imagine an interaction between Mecha Sonic and Belle.

  • @ViroVeteruscy
    @ViroVeteruscyАй бұрын

    It'll be interesting if/whenever Sage and/or Nicole get added to the IDW universe. Sage so that we can see what Belle thinks of her like assuming Robotnik made her to replace Belle, not knowing the events of Frontiers. Nicole since she too is an A.I. like Sage and would be fun if they were Pen Pals before realizing which groups they are apart of.

  • @mesiagamer5217

    @mesiagamer5217

    Ай бұрын

    Thing is the IDW comics are ment to be in the games universe.

  • @coolstuff4828

    @coolstuff4828

    Ай бұрын

    Nicole is not canon

  • @TheDreamrevolution
    @TheDreamrevolutionАй бұрын

    Gee..... If the IDW comics & the Games are indeed one cannon. & if the TWO endings to Sonic Fronters is anything to go by....... I feel Belle meeting Sage is going to be a Very huge blow. .....& considering that despite one of the purposes & Designs of ALL Eggman Creations to oppose Sonic & His Friends. The Fact that the whole Starfall Islands Experience where Sage first encountered the Core 4 (*Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy*) Has left both Herself & Sonic on good terms..... & I have a feeling that down deep, in spite of what Eggman wants them to be, both Sage & Sonic KNOW that they are NOT Enemies..... & if Belle were to find out about the whole thing it would break Her. ....Oh, Ian Flynn..... I Hope You know what You are doing when it comes to the direction You are taking when Writing Your Sonic Stories for both Sega & IDW........ O_o

  • @prufan

    @prufan

    Ай бұрын

    "both Sage & Sonic KNOW that they are NOT Enemies..... " They absolutely are still enemies. They just team up when absolutely necessary.

  • @omega9216

    @omega9216

    Ай бұрын

    @@prufan Sage is a prierly a logical being when she sees that working with Sonic increases the chances of success to her objectives she will work with him however she is ultimatly loyal to Eggman and does not work with Sonic until given permision. So while they may respect each other Sonic and Sage are still enemies. Remeber in Frontiers even Eggmen admits to Sage that while he might Hate Sonic he also respects him as an adversery.

  • @k.ms.perkins8644
    @k.ms.perkins864411 күн бұрын

    Amy Rose doesn't trust the robotnik LoL

  • @thatonecaster6501
    @thatonecaster6501Ай бұрын

    Was not ready for u to mention Ellen Ripley

  • @neonoah3353
    @neonoah3353Ай бұрын

    Its sad to see the differenced between eggmans treatment to belle and sage. Tho imo, i feel as if most of the og comic characters are starting to become stale now that their arcs ended. Whisper and tangle had their arc, to the point where whisper forgot her whole char development only to repeat the same mistake (pushed her friends aside to protect them, but then realize that its better to be helped by them than to protect them by pushing them away). And tho i like tangles character, being the energetic happy go luck one, i feel as if they "dropped" their characters and made them into a cry baby that needs confort every time someone says "diamond cutters" or "mimic", and the other is there just to confort her. Lanolin is ok, we havent seen much of her now that she got out of the background, but the little we saw already made people hate her, imo, i feel as if she should have stayed as a background character. And belle feels as if she had soooo much potential, both as a friend, a potential villain or a 3rd party that isnt protag or antag to the heroes. Im waiting to see what they will do with surge and kit, really hoping they dont drop the ball. I feel as if im forgetting a bad duo, oh well, if i forgot it probably means they werent important.

  • @fumarc4501
    @fumarc4501Ай бұрын

    Bell’s robot sanctuary seems nice.

  • @FilmmakeroftheFuture
    @FilmmakeroftheFutureАй бұрын

    Until now, I didn’t know Dr. Eggman had any children.

  • @user-mb7tx1dm5e
    @user-mb7tx1dm5e3 күн бұрын

    I felt this one deeply

  • @user-qq6tj5gq6i
    @user-qq6tj5gq6iАй бұрын

    Si soy honesto el personaje de belle solo estara de adorno osea entiendo que le dieron una historia de fondo pero eso no es suficiente ya que en sus apariciones solo esta ahi para rellenar los comics sin darle importancia al personaje hasta el punto de olvidarla osea belle le dieron una historia producto y al final lo terminan olvidandola

  • @Nobodyshere1105
    @Nobodyshere1105Ай бұрын

    The poor bean...

  • @SonicForges
    @SonicForgesАй бұрын

    Love your videos.👍

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you 😊

  • @venomfan2020
    @venomfan202010 сағат бұрын

    I genuinely hope they're able to "revive" the Motobug that Belle befriended. It _is_ in the realm of possibility, cuz robots _can_ be reactivated, right?

  • @derekmccluskey4931
    @derekmccluskey4931Ай бұрын

    I had no idea she was a robot. Her nose made me think she was some clown furry. Good story. Wish I read all the IDW comics. I've dabbled but never knew her.

  • @Shio_026
    @Shio_02621 күн бұрын

    I love how you used the songs from Lies Of P which were masterpieces to listen to

  • @mudshrooze
    @mudshroozeАй бұрын

    I reallly like Belle. Ive beeen reading comics of sonic since i was 8 or so. Im almost 30 now. I cant find them where i live but i still have my childhood ones and i try to read them on free sights before they are taken down

  • @mudshrooze

    @mudshrooze

    Ай бұрын

    My favorite characters in the comics (besides the ones that are in almost every sonic video game) are: Bark the Polar Bear Mammoth Mogul Mighty the Armadillo Spike the Porcupine Trevor Burrow the Mole ....I've got an encyclopedia of sonic characters back when archie was making the comics I'd have to go look.

  • @asterthehedgehog6861
    @asterthehedgehog6861Ай бұрын

    Right now, I only wonder what would happen if Belle met Sage. She is the AI daughter of EGGMAN (since Sonic Frontiers) and the same game has canonically said that Sticks exists in the game reality during the credits. They only exist in Sonic mobile apps, but I’d like to see the comic characters become game canon. The comics have proved they follow Forces’ plot.

  • @jaygooese4242
    @jaygooese4242Ай бұрын

    Never heard of her

  • @ZeldaSam1
    @ZeldaSam1Ай бұрын

    God bless her. That's all I have to say.

  • @ArtyAxolotl
    @ArtyAxolotlАй бұрын

    Can't watch cause spoilers lol but it is mean this is the first video of yours in a while I got a notification for even tho I have it set up to notify me every time you upload 😭😭😭😭 anyway dude how are you

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    Doing well! Good to hear from you again. How've you been? You should check out some of my more recent content if you get the chance 😊

  • @ArtyAxolotl

    @ArtyAxolotl

    Ай бұрын

    @SonicTheory96 Yeah I definitely will I'm doing good just a bit tired but like I got the surgery and I am on new meds now and I'm doing a lot better also got reintouch with a old friend Also news on the murder of Sonic video the file got corrupted again so we are going to have to redo it again but we don't have a lot of time right now to do it since Robat has a lot of school stuff right now and I've been trying to set up my new phone and laptop while also doing mod work and hanging out with friends while also dealing with family stuff lol so we are a bit busy

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    Ай бұрын

    @@ArtyAxolotl I hope your recovery from your surgery goes well, I'll be praying for you! Oh no! We'll let me know as soon as you guys ever get that second part going! But yeah life can get busy fast, its honestly good to hear from you again ☺

  • @ArtyAxolotl

    @ArtyAxolotl

    Ай бұрын

    @@SonicTheory96 oh I'm fully recovered that was a little while ago but we haven't talked in a while so I was just updating since I had mentioned that it kept being delayed and that was causing filming the next video to be delayed a lot lol

  • @spacerunner357
    @spacerunner35726 күн бұрын

    This character has an amazing up and down, then back up story! Also have an amazing day everybody!

  • @dragb9284
    @dragb9284Ай бұрын

    Man why is up with tails and women who are or sued to be plants

  • @phoenixfyre365
    @phoenixfyre365Ай бұрын

    ...Well, like shattered glass, it can't fully be put back together. Yes, after _considerable_ time, you can put the pieces back, but you'll always see the cracks and the altered view when looking through it. Kinda makes me think of the glass you see at church in a way, but in this case, it says and shows a different story: "Even if you 'fix' yourself, you'll always be a little bit broken; the scars, the 'cracks in the glass', will always show your struggles- but in a way, seeing that, seeing that you survived such hardship and move forward, being able to smile despite everything- makes the beauty and color of the soul shine that much brighter."

  • @julius_the_cat.
    @julius_the_cat.Ай бұрын

    surge and kit are still orphans :)

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    As are Sonic and literally all of his friends except for Cream.

  • @thecartoonwolf

    @thecartoonwolf

    Ай бұрын

    ​@videogollumer Eh not really but bc Sega doesn't really focus on the character's parents, we don't know if the characters are orphans (except for some of course like knuckles and shadow)

  • @julius_the_cat.

    @julius_the_cat.

    Ай бұрын

    im saying that cause starline, the closest thing they had as a parent is dead

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    @@thecartoonwolf Ever wonder why most of them are kids and teens who don't live with their parents?

  • @julius_the_cat.

    @julius_the_cat.

    Ай бұрын

    @@videogollumer hol up, bro is on to something

  • @Sakura873
    @Sakura873Ай бұрын

    omg beautiful.

  • @solitaregames
    @solitaregamesАй бұрын

    I would like to see an adaptation of Sonic Frontiers, and Belle and Sage face each other.

  • @Jenkinsmum
    @Jenkinsmum26 күн бұрын

    It is said that the cheering someone else up is the best way to do so to yourself. Belle's story is one of the most fascinating and powerful next to X-9 from Samurai Jack. I was not sure what creature Belle was supposed to be based on, she looks human but her build reminds me of Sticks, so I imagine she was some red-haired badger. Her attire kind of reminds me of Lil and Phil from Rugrats (minus the diaper). In future Belle will probably have to deal with the issue of outliving her friends due to being robot.

  • @funnyvalentine7607
    @funnyvalentine760720 күн бұрын

    I really like her story she’s gives off luke skywalker vibes how she’s looking for the once good in her father like Luke hopefully at the end of the series of comics or something similar I hope they keep with the pinocchio theme and make her a real girl at the end

  • @JupiterPluto35
    @JupiterPluto3522 күн бұрын

    vector was so wrong for saying responding with "literally ? becuase if so i think tails coud fix it" 💀💀

  • @Madick07
    @Madick072 күн бұрын

    Belle reminds me a lot of free guy

  • @Scorbunzx
    @ScorbunzxАй бұрын

    Do you think we can just knock eggman unconscious then get Mr tinker back?

  • @lonelywolf2367
    @lonelywolf236717 күн бұрын

    What's the name of that song

  • @Laynee4ever
    @Laynee4everАй бұрын

    She reminds me of Varian

  • @williamstark9568
    @williamstark956829 күн бұрын

    Mr Tinker: I will make a daughter of wood and metal and name her Belle! Belle: Hello! Mr Tinker: I also gave her tear ducts and a breakable heart. Belle: ????

  • @Jen_o40
    @Jen_o40Ай бұрын

    Ok Belle and Sage need to meet ASAP.

  • @k.ms.perkins8644
    @k.ms.perkins864411 күн бұрын

    But tails the Fox doesn't seem to trust eggman but unfortunately it's just a random eggman evolution duh You know 🙄

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034Ай бұрын

    do a video on whisper

  • @Patolagos
    @PatolagosАй бұрын

    Is that Circus Baby

  • @Dragon_SevenK
    @Dragon_SevenKАй бұрын

    Where can I find these comics

  • @serz23

    @serz23

    Ай бұрын

    IDW Publishing or Amazon.

  • @LowQualitySpamtonDeltarune

    @LowQualitySpamtonDeltarune

    Ай бұрын

    just search up read comics online free

  • @Dragon_SevenK

    @Dragon_SevenK

    Ай бұрын

    @@serz23 and the name

  • @serz23

    @serz23

    Ай бұрын

    If you're talking about the issues, Issue #40-49.

  • @crowmaster9652
    @crowmaster9652Ай бұрын

    hold up so you are telling me eggman did it with an *animal*

  • @Chaogod1233
    @Chaogod123319 күн бұрын

    Id like to see Eggman eventually mellow out and just give up on trying to take over the world and strive to be a better person like his persona. Then let someone like Starline take over as the main villian. I know many are so used to him being the main villian and I am speaking heracy in terms of sonic fandom but he's lost his luster for me. He's rarely menacing anymore and comes off more like a comic relief goofy villian (a little less so in the comics I will say) than one to be taken seriously. Not to mention he feels played out as they seem to always have him have something go TOO well then has to team up with sonic to clean up the mess he made then rinse and repeat for next story arc / game. Then we can see him try to mend things with Belle or other characters. Maybe he butts heads with the others of how a better world should look like. There is a lot more that can be explored there than re-treading the same old same old.

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    19 күн бұрын

    I love Eggman as a villain but I agree that Sega needs to allow another villain to come to the forefront to keep things fresh. Maybe have subtle hints and foreshadowing about some crazy plan Eggman is working on but leave him out of the next few titles. Then his return would really be felt and mean a lot more imo

  • @user-sg4vu3xk1r
    @user-sg4vu3xk1rАй бұрын

    Bella got daddy issues after the metal virus

  • @fabioariadela3339
    @fabioariadela3339Ай бұрын

    Como la historia de belle esta incompleta entiendo que quisieron darle una historia profunda a belle pero para que si al final lo van olvidar a ella pero bueno solo basado en mi punto de vista

  • @cossakrose
    @cossakroseАй бұрын

    ...but what was on Amy's taro card???

  • @yohanbaldan9907
    @yohanbaldan99074 сағат бұрын

    Honestly ive read most messages and yet i think what i say might work vut probably not this is what i want to be like because i have issues that i k ow and this honestly feels like what i have to do and id love for me to change and funny enough a robot fictional character is more inspiring than some '' motivational videos'' psh they sucked this shows the ups and downs and a good way to cope so yeah thanks for showing me the video and thanks to IDW for making her and for good byes im an insane idiot who is using a fitional robot as a guide to a better mental state so thank you for reading and i hope youre life gets better and have fun =]

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    3 сағат бұрын

    Wishing the best for you and any struggles you are facing 😊

  • @yohanbaldan9907

    @yohanbaldan9907

    2 сағат бұрын

    @SonicTheory96 hold up you read?!? Dam thanks dude and yeah, it's getting better. The fact of me losing my bird ain't helping, tho I'm trying

  • @SonicTheory96

    @SonicTheory96

    48 минут бұрын

    @@yohanbaldan9907 I get that, losing a pet can be rough. Keep your head up and know that you have people who care about you 💙

  • @jayrock825mc7
    @jayrock825mc7Ай бұрын

    I look at this character and think maybe the lower ranking robots recognize the character were following as a commander class And that’s why they listen to her. What do I know? I just stumbled onto this video and barely know anything about sonic

  • @scottdreemurrthegodofcreation
    @scottdreemurrthegodofcreationАй бұрын

    Pretty sure Eggman loves her as a daughter things are just complicated

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    Oh, please! It's debatable whether he actually loves Metal Sonic like a son! I mean, does Eggman see Metal as a person or a reflection of his intellect? If Metal Sonic ever succeeded in killing Sonic, who would Eggman give credit to, Metal or himself?

  • @Toysonicandfriends2
    @Toysonicandfriends2Ай бұрын

    Is starline dead or alive?

  • @kaxcommentssomethingREAL

    @kaxcommentssomethingREAL

    Ай бұрын

    bro ate a bit too much rubble, he's not coming back after that one

  • @Rhyusfox

    @Rhyusfox

    Ай бұрын

    Yeahh. Only thing Starline may end up doing is haunting Surge.

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    @@kaxcommentssomethingREAL Even if he did, he'd never be the same platypus again. His mind was clearly broken following his failure to humble Eggman.

  • @kaxcommentssomethingREAL

    @kaxcommentssomethingREAL

    Ай бұрын

    @@videogollumer exactly!

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    @@kaxcommentssomethingREAL Just goes to show you shouldn't defend, let alone support, Eggmanism or even Robotnikism in general. It only gets people killed.

  • @guesty6128
    @guesty612824 күн бұрын

    Eggman can literaly create a robot made of wood that can have emotions and cry. But cant fricking make a metal sonic that is Actually an evil copy of sonic

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