In the first choreographed version of the battle between Palpatine and the Jedi, in his office, the fight wasn’t over so quickly. Last minute changes had Ian McDiarmid replace his stunt double and Ian couldn’t immediately handle the rigors of a lengthy and complex fight scene. It would have been cool to see that extended battle even though Sidious still wins.

@brokenbridge6316

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it would've been cool to watch. And hey Happy Halloween my friend. 🎃🎃

@Sunstar808

7 ай бұрын

@@brokenbridge6316 Happy Halloween friend 🎃

@brokenbridge6316

7 ай бұрын

@@Sunstar808---thank you

@bradgrand79

7 ай бұрын

He went out like a chump

@trentreffner5699

7 ай бұрын

The man should have at least had a day to train with Piccolo from Dragonball Z Abridged. Man didn't even make an attempt at dodging lols

Maybe instead of forcing Anakin to spy on Palpatine which helped destroy Anakin's trust in the Jedi, the Council could have arranged more advanced training for him with Yoda and Windu in preparation for a fight they knew was coming

@SPAZ2D2

7 ай бұрын

No kidding. I think that is what they should have done

i WISH this Chancellor's Office duel had a longer choreographic fight time. they could have made the Council Masters soo deadly that Palpatine's defeating them would be a testament to his ultimate abilities in the Dark Side.

Egan Kolar never got the Chance to Actually Egage Sidious to begin with

@marcuskruger7567

7 ай бұрын

That's very true.

@SingleTax

7 ай бұрын

Actually he did. Sidious was simply his superior.

@MrSpannners

7 ай бұрын

​@@SingleTax wdym he was stabbed instantly.

@johnhorton4436

7 ай бұрын

Was it to do with Him Being a Zabrak like Maul was

@SingleTax

7 ай бұрын

@@MrSpannnersOf course he was. That's what happens when one engages a superior lightsaber duelist. Not even Yoda could defeat Sidious.

It seems that Yoda and Windu should've both been kept on Coruscant when this went down.

@scottb3034

7 ай бұрын

Honestly yeah, and if they disliked Palpatine's relationship with Anakin you actually turn the tables and assent to his wished to have Anakin off world, that keeps him away from Palpatine which then keeps Palpatine from calling for him.

@shawn092182

7 ай бұрын

​@@scottb3034But Anakin was the only Jedi that could get close to Palpatine without raising any suspicions. Since the council didn't know that Palpatine was Sidious, it was the most logical choice.

@scottb3034

7 ай бұрын

@@shawn092182 They did not trust Anakin's relationship with Palpatine (rightly so) and did not like Palpatine wedging Anakin into their affairs as a show of power (The Council doesn't like it when he interferes with Jedi Affairs--Obi-Wan). So while he was the only one that could get close to Palpatine that doesn't mean it is the only avenue to finding and defeating him. Given enough time and with Anakin away long enough it might have been achieved. Heck, when ROTS was made the Jedi got so close that the Battle of Coruscant was created to not only knock them off the trail but bring Anakin back to be groomed. Had the Jedi kept going or not brought Anakin back to save Palpatine they very well may have found out on their own and killed him without Skywalker. Labyrinth of Evil was sadly erased with the new canon but it was a masterpiece of a book that delved into that. Clone Wars kind of stole elements from that for their less stellar chip storyline.

@brokenbridge6316

7 ай бұрын

@@shawn092182---Then I think Obi-Wan should've been kept on Coruscant too. For all their friction he did keep him from doing some really stupid things.

@asliceofloaf1984

7 ай бұрын

They were more worried about maintaining their politics, image, and control over the army than about taking down the sith lord. They thought Palpatine would just get effortlessly defeated in a few minutes anyways. Classic jedi council moment lol

I named one of my pet Rats after him :) Agen, Kit, Plo, Drallig, and Revan

i was sad when Kitt Fisto died so fast. he was one of my favorites from the EU.

according to Lucas Windu beat Sidious and that's that

@rentoshine2038

7 ай бұрын

👍

@PROTAGONIST_48

5 ай бұрын

Nah

@scottmccrea1873

3 ай бұрын

That's simply not true! And it's not the first time that Lucas misunderstood his own work: he compared the Rebel Allaince to the Viet Cong. An analogy so startlingly stupid, it's shocking. So one more time for the cheap seats: *WINDU DIED LIKE A PUNK. HE NEFER HAD ANY CHANCE AGAINST SIDIOUS. Sidious could and did kill Windu when he wanted and that's the incontrovertible fact.* Sidious toyed with Windu in order to create a moment of Supreme crisis for Anakin.

It’s a shame that the books and comics paint a kinder image of this respectable council members vs the Movie just make them look like fodder, granted it was to emphasize the sheer amount power that Palpatine wielded, I enjoy reading and hearing about their exploits. The expanded universe in Star Wars has always been my favorite because there was characters who are incredibly interesting and have awesome stories that we unfortunately don’t get to see. And it’s one of the reasons I’ve followed this channel because it showcases some hidden gems our favorite far far away galaxy.

@DarthMaui

7 ай бұрын

Star Wars fans think like video gamers. These are sword fights, not power level measures. Anyone can lose a sword fight to someone "weaker." It's a dangerous game. One hit with a light saber and that's it. So a surprise attack isn't quite the same as a duel, is it? The Jedi were beaten by their own arrogance at every turn, and that's what the story is about, not power levels of sword masters measured against each other like D-measuring contests. It's ridiculous that people don't get this.

@gregfam6250

7 ай бұрын

Actually, it's because George Lucas decided to scrap the original choreography in favour of Ian doing his own fighting. Worst decision ever. They all died like punks.

@DarthMaui

7 ай бұрын

@@gregfam6250 final comp was pretty weak looking

@eriknewton4656

6 ай бұрын

to be fair palpatine was that powerful and no one on the council had ever faced a true sith lord because they realized too late they weren't extinct so the jedi council wasn't exactly prepared to deal with a true sith lord let alone one as powerful as palpatine.

Just imagine if they had sent Anakin to deal with the droid attack on the wookies instead of Yoda...

@pIayingwithmahwii

6 ай бұрын

i doubt it would have changed anything. Palpatine would only reveal himself to Anakin, and Anakin telling them was how the Jedi council even knew the Sith master was Palpatine. If anakin was away there would be no fight. Palpatine would simply wait until Anakin was next back on Coruscant. And while Palpatine wouldn’t want to fight both Mace and Yoda at the same time, given that even Anakin’s help wouldn’t save him, he could always arrange to reveal himself at some other time Yoda was off world

Your videos are so awesome, thanks for posting new content so frequently. Your great and so knowledgeable

windu would of won against palpatine if anakin didnt intervene. the reason im saying this is cause palpatine was killing himself using force lightning and windu blocked it thus aging palpatine faster the normal

@TiresiasAfricanus

7 ай бұрын

This is a very underrated comment because it acknowledges that Windu was the correct choice and they would have won if not for betrayal. Palpatine needed to "cheat" to beat Windu.

@shawn092182

7 ай бұрын

​@@TiresiasAfricanusFrom a certain point of view, Palpatine wasn't the one who cheated. It was the Jedi that cheated. Windu cheated by bringing three other people with him to fight one person. Then, at the end, another Jedi cheated by cutting off Windu's hand.😁

@asliceofloaf1984

7 ай бұрын

Palpatine would have stopped doing it and counterattacked if Anakin wouldn't have appeared. He had no way to turn Anakin if he had just slaughtered Windu, so he had to pretend he was losing. Not going to completely discount a Windu victory, but I dont think it's as one-sided as it first seems.

@lucianmccloud7652

7 ай бұрын

Sidious wasn't being hurt by that lightning, all it did was diminish his force mask revealing to us what he truely looks like. Remember sidious went through vigorous training with the force lightning as palegious would used it on him frequently. Imo i dont think anyone wielding force lightning hurts sidious with it. Windu bested sidious in the duel hands down, the hypocritical point of view windu had infront of anakin was pivotal and pushed him over that edge, falling to the dark as we see play out

@cjsaurus4120

7 ай бұрын

@@lucianmccloud7652 it was actually hurting him case in point rise of Skywalker his abuse of force lightning actually killed him when Ray was protected by spirits of past jedi

Sidious to Agen Kolar: “Weak”

Missed watching ur vids

So, another example of the Council's incompetence, arrogance, and bad decision making.

@scottb3034

7 ай бұрын

Not really any of those since they accomplished the job had Anakin not been a gullible fool who didn't care about the Jedi way except to use it to save his own selfish reasons and because he felt guilty for doing what Mace did to a legitimate unarmed prisoner in Dooku. Mace had the job done.

The actor reminds me a bit of a young christopher lambert ... the quickening!

I always wondered why the Jedi didn't just use Order 65. I mean, they knew the order, including Order 66. And yet feared it not a moment? Didn't think a moment to storm the place with Clone Troopers? Lure Palpatine in a larger area? Indeed Pride goeth before a fall.

@Spurglar8769

7 ай бұрын

Bc the senate

The force scream beat them before they realised it

Actually it's not debated, George Lucas himself said Mace Windu won the fight straight up, end of debate 🙄🤣

@scottb3034

7 ай бұрын

People will still jump through hoops to ignore or discount that fact.

@BG-yz7hh

7 ай бұрын

Yeah Mace won then New Challenger!

@Intrepid_Explorer

7 ай бұрын

The problem is that people selectively ignore *how* and *why* Windu was able to defeat Sidious in lightsaber combat, and instead choose to apply this outlier of a feat against virtually every other Star Wars character as if it's the norm for Windu. Furthermore, while I agree that Sidious did not 'throw' their saber duel like some people suggest, I do think that Sidious was never in any true danger of being killed due to the simple fact that he could have simply fallen back on his use of the Force at any point in their battle, much as he did in his battle with Yoda. The Revenge of the Sith novelization makes it exceptionally clear that Sidious was at his most dangerous when he was unarmed, as Lightsabers were little more than toys or props to mock the Jedi to him. This is largely why he had such a low opinion of them. More importantly, the novelization bluntly stated that no Jedi could destroy the Sith due to the fact that they had grown and evolved, wheras the Jedi were only ready to face a foe from 1000 years ago. So while Windu might have legitimately won their lightsaber duel, that battle itself was nothing but a sham that Sidious could have ended at any point (not to mention that Windu simply could never defeat the Sith anyways, only Anakin could bring balance to the Force by slaying Sidious). Just the possibility that Sidious could be killed by Windu would not only render the point of the Chosen One null and pointless (and thus Star Wars as a whole pointless), but would also prove that Bane's Rule of Two ultimately ended in failure.

@scottb3034

7 ай бұрын

@@Intrepid_Explorer Hard to take the novels seriously when they are riddled with artistic license by the author to flesh out a script that was no longer 100% accurate to the shot film (Stover had to work with the "finished" final script but the shooting script was constantly altered day of shooting to fit what Lucas wanted done). Stover told the story he wanted to tell with some of the fattier pieces of the novel. Like his portrayal of the Yoda/Sidious fight is pretty different from what's on screen and even stuff like the Grievous and Dooku duels had license applied. The Chancellor's arrest and duel had possibly the most license from what was in the finished film making it unreliable to use in an argument aside from just bringing the alternate take up for fun. Also you are forgetting that Mace's unique powers negate the Force abilities of Sidious a great deal and paired with his saber making him indomitable vs Sidious, that's why he tried and failed to kill Mace with them after he was disarmed. The ONE interesting point you bring up is that even if Mace and Yoda could beat Sidious, perhaps the Force prevented them from doing so because it was Anakin's job and in a way the Jedi had to learn a lesson that couldn't be accomplished by Mace simply killing Palpatine. I do think they could have killed him but perhaps the Force said, "no mate you don't get out this one easily". Lastly, Bane's rule of two IS a failure because the Sith are failures. They will never be allowed to be successes. The Jedi have completely wiped the Sith out several times before, the Sith have never been able to make the Jedi extinct once, whether as an army or as two.

@pravusprime

7 ай бұрын

But it doesn't work that way. Lucas himself says these are tall tales and he likes inconsistency, just as many of our own cultural myths have variations depending on the region and the era. At one point he even said that the OT is R2D2's version of the events. Just like the series can have Ahsoka fight Maul with the sabers Anakin gives her, while the book has her use her regular green ones. Different versions of the same story and Lucas said they're both true from the point of the storytellers. So Sidious can throw the match to give urgency to Anakin making his decision and he could realize he should've used two sabers to take on Windu while also being beaten in a surprise miscalculation. Depends on the certain point of view. Ultimately, what happens is dictated by the Force. Anakin was always going to become Vader and end up killing the Emperor and dying in the process, fulfilling his role as the chosen one after also destroying the corrupt Jedi, bringing balance back.

Windu is the only one who could beat him thanks to shatterpoint and vaapad, and he did.

@NA-lf6ik

7 ай бұрын

Exactly, mace did beat sidious. He beat him with lots of haxs but was still good enough to fight him with out them. Sure, take away vaapad’s effect and shatter point and mace would have lost, but those powers create conversation about the fight. The let him match sidious and find his weakness. Had sidious had the same powers he would have won

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

@BackflipMcChill

7 ай бұрын

IT'S UNFAIR

@davidkohr

7 ай бұрын

How can you be on the council, but not be a master?!

@Fire_Panda738

7 ай бұрын

Take a seat young Skywalker

I do wish we got to see the other masters and the missions they went on so we could see for ourselves how strong they were

@flickfellas9424

7 ай бұрын

Clone Wars

@satmtca

5 ай бұрын

@@flickfellas9424 that’s what I’m talking about, we only saw like 4 episodes of mace on his own missions but none of the other council members where they r the main focus

Give me a break. They had no idea who Sidious was until 15 minutes before they barged into his office and got themselves perished in epic fashion. If they had any idea who he was beforehand, they would have gone about that much differently, and order 66 wouldn't have been nearly as successful if it even happened at all.

@MrSpannners

7 ай бұрын

Did you even listen to what was said in the video. They didn't know it was Palpatine who was Sidious, but they did think he was connected to the Sith. That's why they told Anakin to spy on him.

Darth Sidious be like stop the Cap! 😂🤣

I thought Lucas himself confirmed that Mace won the fight. I could be wrong though.

windu is growing on me. up there with dooku. want to hear more about his backstory.

Anakin walking in and seeing kit fitso head sitting on sidous desk has be a seen he never forgot

So the council loved Egan but hated Annakin for having the same qualities

@MrSpannners

7 ай бұрын

No. As said in the video, Egan was uncompromising against the dark side or evil. While Anakin was known to be tempted and even embrace the dark side. It's the same reason they didn't let Anakin on the council, he had a bad track record in their eyes.

@asliceofloaf1984

7 ай бұрын

Egan was like Anakin but obedient like a guard dog lol. They couldn't trust Anakin to not call them out on their corruption and complacency after taking the sith lord down, like they could Egan. For them, taking down the dark lord was basically guaranteed, they were more worried about what would happen after 😂

@mikeabbaticchio5754

7 ай бұрын

Basically like all corporate entities, the jedi council only like "yes men" around them lol

@decepticonxhunter4850

7 ай бұрын

@@asliceofloaf1984 And how was Anakin in any position to call any Jedi out on being corrupt when he choked unarmed prisoner and murdered another unarmed prisoner during the same war?

@scottmccrea1873

3 ай бұрын

That's simply not true! And it's not the first time that Lucas misunderstood his own work: he compared the Rebel Allaince to the Viet Cong. An analogy so startlingly stupid, it's shocking. So one more time for the cheap seats: *WINDU DIED LIKE A PUNK. HE NEFER HAD ANY CHANCE AGAINST SIDIOUS. Sidious could and did kill Windu when he wanted and that's the incontrovertible fact.* Sidious toyed with Windu in order to create a moment of Supreme crisis for Anakin.

What if mace windu and anakin went alone to arrest the chancellor?

@shawn092182

7 ай бұрын

Windu: "In The Name Of The Galactic Senate Of The Republic, You're Under Arrest, Chancellor." Anakin: "Nooo!!!!" (Sliced off Wndu's hand) Sidious: "Power.......Unlimited Power!!!!!" (Shoots force lightening at Windu) Windu: "I should've brought Kolar, Tiin, and Fisto instead....." (dies) Sidious: "Yes. You should have." (Laughs insidiously)

Apparently not.. seeing how it went. An that Mace had a trump card ability an Yoda actually was on track to doing it. Had it stayed mainly a Saber dual.

Yeah, you know, the first one to die within 3 seconds after Sidious draw his lightsaber...

it is not debated who won between sidious and windu. windu clearly bested him. using vaapad. and sidious caught them all off guard with a force scream while telling the jedi who he cut down first to read his mind.

@chiquita683

7 ай бұрын

Nah sidious faked the L for Anakin

@eramires

7 ай бұрын

@@chiquita683 this

@christiandouyon9739

6 ай бұрын

@@chiquita683 No he didn't lol. I'll take Geoge Luca's word over anyone else 😆

In theory, I don’t think any of them ever really fought a darth lord before him. Maybe a few dust ups with dukoo.

Almost Like Mace Windu was Excalibur Almost

@johnhorton4436

7 ай бұрын

@@thaynealexander while he was Excalibur in the sense his Vaapad form was

@johnhorton4436

7 ай бұрын

@thaynealexander Mace windu was atleast Nearly Invincible against Sith Opponents and any Darkside user his Vaapad form Acting like his Excalibur

@johnhorton4436

7 ай бұрын

Though with that Much Near Invincibility comes Tunnel Vision as Mace windu Neglected to use his shatter point ability to see that anakin was not wrong that Palpatines death at the time was an Unwise idea by windu though if Palpatine were to escape I can See Mace windus point that Palpatine was Dangerous

@johnhorton4436

7 ай бұрын

@thaynealexander can you deny that it was Mace windus Excalibur atleast his Mostly Exclusive Vaapad Form that was Mostly Exclusive to Mace Windu Himself was the closest thing to Excalibur that was Not an Actual Sword or Being

Mace Windu🇲🇽 was not #TDBank💳 card holder but everyone on the council thought that he was... 🌎💘💰

The thumbnail is so funny

I love how this video is made lol. When Agen Kolar was the second to die by Lord Sidious's blade.

I would clap Sidious with one arm tied behind my back You may now give thanks to Doom

@BradleyLodge

7 ай бұрын

Yes!!! Best comment ever 😂 All hail doom

@johnalbert6900

7 ай бұрын

What’s that, Doom? Sounds like Squirrel Girl is coming to pay you a visit…

@shawn092182

7 ай бұрын

Hey Doom, just because Reed Richards could do that to you, it doesn't mean that you can also do it. I bet you that Reed Richards could even clap you with both arms tied behind his back. 🤣

@MrSpannners

7 ай бұрын

Tell that to an invisible lady and a stretchy man you can't seem to beat...

What’s your source?

get chosen to join an elite team of sith hunters die immediatley GJ Eggan

Qui gon is the only jedi palps needed to fear.

Its treason,then.

Kolar got slow motion stabbed from the start.

1 of the best duelists... like everyone it seems.

Windu won the lightsaber duel against Palpatine hands down. Lucas said as much. We can end of the bed is the weather in Palpatine threw the fight or not, he didn’t.

Probably why Sidius basically surprise attacked him much earlier than Windu

he was so feared that he died in 5 seconds

A lot of the characters like him are basically Red Shirts in Star Trek. Their whole purpose is to demonstrate the danger involved. We don’t need to know everything about all of them.

Such skill and mastery. And they failed and fell. Windu and Egan were extremely skillfull. Legendary even. But in the end they failed. I would like to know more of Egan. He's interesting. Windu beat Palpatine. It's fact. May the Force be with you too

many jedi has great skill in lightsaber combat but most of them lack of power to use it.

Mace and his Boyz

Sidious owned Agen almost instantly

The jedi council never knew sideous existed because the oldest living jedi(yoda) wasnt even born when the sith were said to have went extinct

That's a Klingon😅

Nah, I’m taking the actual guys who have fought Sith Lords in the past decade. This master is this and that he has such skill, that’s all theory speak. Mace Windu intentionally left the guy who just beat a Sith Lord/Renowned Jedi Master. At that point, Anakin has the most insight and experience to get an idea of what we’re up against. He probably got a bead on Sidious’s strength as well since he no longer had to hide himself.

@pIayingwithmahwii

6 ай бұрын

if the Sith Master had been anyone beside Palpatine, yes bring Anakin. But anakin clearly had a close relationship with Palpatine, they were known to be close friends, almost like father and son. Windu clearly made the right choice not bringing Anakin. Look what happened when Anakin DID show up there

@deantefields7736

6 ай бұрын

@@pIayingwithmahwii Anakin showed up after the fact and had no context. It was BECAUSE of their relationship that Anakin made the split decision to side with Sidious. Had Windu brought him from the get go, everyone probably would have lived. Palpatine would have went out of his way not to harm Anakin.

I know they came deep to hopefully convince Sidious to surrender peacefully but maybe it would have been better to just let Mace go alone because he would have been on guard more or better Mace And Yoda which would’ve been game over for Sidious. I really like kolar, I wish we could’ve seen more of him.

Certain you’ve covered this before?

What is a Kit Windu?

@josephalonzo1059

3 ай бұрын

A false fantasy made in the mind of an idiot... First it's not What, it's Who; Second those are two entirely different individuals named KIT Fisto and Mace WINDU

Wasn't Windu the Grand Master during the phantom menace then gave it up when the war started ?

@scottb3034

7 ай бұрын

Technically he was the Master of the Order not Grand Master. Basically he led the Council discussion, the Jedi Council and oversaw day to day duties while Yoda was more of a figurehead, spiritual leader that saw the bigger picture and was the "de jure" (by right of law) leader of the entire Jedi Order. For practical purposes Mace was the de facto leader but Yoda was ranked higher. Another way to look at it is this: Some real life countries have two leadership positions, commonly a president and prime minister. One position keeps the country's internal house in order while the other is the international leader that interacts with other foreign powers and is also the overall leader of the country. Mace was the former and Yoda was the latter....until the Clone Wars when it was consolidated into one uniform position. Master of the Order is/was a different position from Grandmaster.

The Jedi were arrogant AF. Almost to the point of stupidity. The older I get the more I dislike them. They needed to go. Being a Jedi probably sucked in so many ways.

@darth.dominus.the.savage

7 ай бұрын

As youngsters we think highly of jedi and jedi like people... as we age, we see through their lies and hypocrisy and understand that sith and similar organisations are not as bad as the jedi would have us believe, this is why the sith are always reborn through the jedi themselves coz they cant brainwash every single person and some can see them for the liar, hypocrites and frauds they are

@scottb3034

7 ай бұрын

that's what you got out of it? You totally misunderstand what Lucas was going for then. THere is a reason they are STILL the good guys of the saga in spite of the flaws.

Windu and yoda

Could, would , or should are just the words of our imagination. Sidious was a tough and careful cookie, he died because of simply because he misjudged the situation.

In the time I was watching this at least 300 others had joined to watch.

I hate the wide open arms flourishes every time there is a pause in the fight, it is so over used and it is just for spectacle nothing more, I just hate it.

They never said this nor would have reason to think it

The Jedi were arrogant and self-righteous. That is why they were so easily deceived.

is Sidious's attack fast thou ? the first strike he makes is so slow and obvious.

Who won between Mace and Palpatine? Mace. Even Lucas said it. Palpatine would have been cut down if Anakin hadn’t interfered. In terms of the beginning of the fight. I know changes were made and we did not get what was intended to be shown. What they could have done was have the beginning all in slow motion but have Palpatine moving faster within the slo motion segment. That would display how fast he was moving and show the power of the dark side he was using. That’s just my thoughts. But younger me watching all those years ago thinking “those three Jedi didn’t even move! Did they want to die?!”

I like how the entire comment section says Lucas claimed Windu beat Sidious, but apparently nobody can actually provide the quote. If that actually happened, provide the quote to end the debate.

Be one with the cheeto

Perhaps sidious took him out first for a reason.

That scene of the Jedi going to arrest Palpatine just to die ridiculously is one of the worst failures of Lucas. What a shame!

@shawn092182

7 ай бұрын

It would've been even more ridiculous if they successfully arrested him. Afterall, Palpatine was the Emperor in the following trilogy.

@MrSpannners

7 ай бұрын

😂 It really wasn't

@gregfam6250

7 ай бұрын

The original choreography was scrapped because George Lucas made a last minute decision to have Ian do his own fighting. The result is the rubbish we got. People defending the scene have clearly never watched other lore such as The Clone Wars to understand how badass these Jedi really were.

@corujariousa

7 ай бұрын

@@gregfam6250 Even lore not considered, that was a extremely lame fight scene. Typical of Lucas. He failed in probably all of them for not using real martial artists and stunts to deliver impressive fighting scenes. The results is what we see on screen. Ridiculous!

@corujariousa

7 ай бұрын

@@shawn092182 I am not proposing a failure to arrest him. That would be absurd. I do expect a much better job from a director. Lucas is far from being a good one. Especially coordinating fighting scenes. He has a long history of terrible deliveries.

Had Mace taken Anakin with him. He'd have been conflicted yes. But watching Sidious kill jedi masters casually. That would have hardened Skywalker in the light, and he would have fought by Windus side to destroy the sith. Combined with this Master. Sidious would have been destroyed within seconds. Perhaps, no more Jedi would have died.

Well looks like they were wrong because he was the first jedi to get cut down getting stabbed through the chest not even getting the chance to attack or defend

Qui gon would have found him bo prob

All I know is that the battle with Sidious should have lasted longer than it did with the other Jedi masters. Only Mace Windu outlasted them. Sidious cut them down like first year Padawans.

And yet Agon died in less than a second when Lord Sidious attacked.

Mace Windu is loyal to the institution...Kinda like Clarence Thomas?😂

What Council?

Palpatine was stronger than anyone realized. He toyed with yoda , he allowed mace to overtake him. Just so Anakin would turn. We all saw his power , during the first part of ROTS. How did two fully trained Jedi not sense his power during the rescue ? How did palpatine not give his self up. Because the Jedi all had a blinding arrogance that led to their downfall?

@eramires

7 ай бұрын

He was actively concealing it using the dark side, obviously.

🎉🎉🎉

Lucas really missed the mark on this fight. Absolutely no way 4 Masters should of lost to 1 sith. Especially soo easily!

Jedi council truly was arrogant 😂

Windu bested sidious

@karerabbe7829

7 ай бұрын

Lol, nope😂 he was hauling for time til Anakin gor there, hat was the whole point.. He disnt even use a single force ability, only saber

@gabrielcarrasco9078

7 ай бұрын

​@@karerabbe7829Lucas says different.

@rakeemcoburn489

7 ай бұрын

Lucas says a lot of things @@gabrielcarrasco9078

Mace alone was enough for he Sidious. He was beaten.

I think at best this dudes whole backstory is a poor attempt at addressing what was a pretty disappointing showing of the jedi in the rots movie. "...but sith scream!" Yeah okay. Still lame. At worst, shows utter hypocrisy of the council once again. Literally every reason he's good is the reason anakin is bad. The man should not be a master if he can't be flexible in dealings and compassion. Consistency, council. Cmon.

Welp..mace made a bad call. Still won though

Didn’t he die right away though

They let this guy in the council?!? But won't give the chosen one the rank of Master?!😳 What treason is this?! This is outrageous,this isn't fair. This is kinda crap that made the Jedi hella hypocrites so much that I believe some of em didn't even see it or know it, completely clueless. In their mind they knew the force better than the force itself🤯 luminara,kia diundi,and mace being the most full of emselves,they were very wise so they must've known they were bullcrap and that Anakin was right and wayy more powerful. Fisto and plo koon were always what the Jedi should've been

@shawn092182

7 ай бұрын

Yep. Accept their destiny and die with a smile, like Kit Fisto. 😁

@scottb3034

7 ай бұрын

Anakin wasn't put on the council because of his attitude. And he didn't deserve it with all the secrets he was keeping.

@decepticonxhunter4850

7 ай бұрын

Being on the council had nothing to do with someone's lightsaber talent. It was about someone's emotional discipline and maturity. The fact that Anakin wanted that position just to have access to the Sith artifacts in the archives is precisely why the council was 100% right in denying him that rank. Being the Chosen One didn't mean he was entitled to special treatment.

@scottb3034

7 ай бұрын

@@decepticonxhunter4850 and he wanted access to save the wife he was hiding and wasn't supposed to have. A wife he was attached to which endangers the galaxy and compromises his commitment to the Jedi Way.

They were wrong

The only dead Jedi who can beat Darth Sidious 😅👉 💀

Prosset dibs wasn’t in legends

Day 291 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon

Well done!

Lol how? Literally died in 1 second

How did palpatine become so powerful?

George Lucas himself stated that Mace Windu defeated Darth Sidious

*Sidious completely dominated Windu!* It doesn't matter what Lucas said. And it's not the first time that Lucas misunderstood his own work: he compared the Rebel Allaince to the Viet Cong. An analogy so startlingly stupid, it's shocking. So one more time for the cheap seats: *WINDU DIED LIKE A PUNK. HE NEFER HAD ANY CHANCE AGAINST SIDIOUS. Sidious could and did kill Windu when he wanted and that's the incontrovertible fact.* Sidious toyed with Windu in order to create a moment of Supreme crisis for Anakin.

With All that being said, Sidious wiped him out easy

And they got man handled which was wack as f