The Old Copper Culture of North America

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  • @NORTH02
    @NORTH02 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you to Wondrium for sponsoring today's video! Signup for your FREE trial to Wondrium here: ow.ly/b8RY50L1inp

  • @tonydai782

    @tonydai782

    Жыл бұрын

    Are there any updates on the video that you said could be two hours long in your community post?

  • @NORTH02

    @NORTH02

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tonydai782 It is taking a long time haha

  • @JM-qb2kd

    @JM-qb2kd

    Жыл бұрын

    I won’t lie man, I absolutely love ur content, I’ve been watching this videos a long time now. I especially find the ones on human evolution, learning about our “cousin” species. The videos about the prehistoric and ancient societies and how they developed culturally/technologically. -but, I NEEDED to leave a comment on this video, because I have a mixed European/Native American family here in the upper peninsula. I remember growing up any bit really being told much about the native copper culture of our local region (and the Great Lakes region as a whole. So it always means something to see a video made about it. So thank you for that, and keep up the good work

  • @missourimongoose8858

    @missourimongoose8858

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish u would of brought up the underwater panther who was the God of copper and water to the copper culture and past down, I actually have a mississippian shrine to this God around my families land in southern missouri, video on my channel if u would like to see all the artwork left on a big bluff the biggest one is a wolf headed creature

  • @FacesintheStone

    @FacesintheStone

    Жыл бұрын

    Be sure to check out Edwin Barnhart’s Ancient civilizations of North America on Wondrium. It’s the best!

  • @georgecuyler7563
    @georgecuyler75638 ай бұрын

    We Turtle Islanders considered copper more valuable than gold or money. Although it fell out of favor due to colonial interference, we are starting to get back to work reclaiming our history and waking up the old ways.

  • @joeshmoe8345
    @joeshmoe8345 Жыл бұрын

    I vote u do a video on Polynesian expansion, and origin theories. Lots to talk about there and I think it’s an underrated topic, yt needs a closer look at the complexities behind this event.

  • @petehoover6616

    @petehoover6616

    Жыл бұрын

    Watched a Samoan neighbor once lift a couch four stories by himself with just a rope. At some point Polynesian people lost the sail but developed massive rowing muscles. Not so good on the legs as the arms which is why pro football isn't an all-Samoan sport. Not enough can run. (And when a walking man weighs 750 lbs he can't walk fast. My sister's horse was that big and I rode the mare a lot. That man was definitely as big as her.) I am not sure if Samoan vs Tongan football exists in the US. There are racist jokes between the two. Good luck telling Samoans from Tongans.

  • @Nae_Ayy

    @Nae_Ayy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@petehoover6616 Thanks for the vaguely racist rant, Pete.

  • @petehoover6616

    @petehoover6616

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nae_Ayy So I can't talk about people I love dearly without being considered racist because they aren't like you? There is a difference between polite and familiar speech in Samoan, where "t" changes to "k". It goes back to some lower class Samoan who was tongue tied.

  • @Nae_Ayy

    @Nae_Ayy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@petehoover6616 Bruh what I'm joking lol

  • @petehoover6616

    @petehoover6616

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Nae_Ayy Samoans resemble Irish Wolfhounds or Great Danes; they are accidentally very much larger than other people. I played bagpipes for the funeral of a clan leader and many people flew from Samoa to the service. Strangely they were all normal sized. The 750 lb man (who was Tongan) was indeed the biggest person I have ever encountered who could still walk. Barely. He was severely disabled. I used to pick up a Samoan two year old each day and a Romanian four year old each day. The Samoan was heavier at half the age. They get full of their own power and so when drinking in bars they can get shot, and we lost one that way. They all shunned me as soon as I figured out all the elders were hard drug addicts.

  • @katiefrances531
    @katiefrances531 Жыл бұрын

    i have yet to finish the video, but i just wanted to say i appreciate the calming narration and straight forward presentation in your videos. biological/archeological anthropology was my favorite course in college, so thank you for scratching that itch in my brain!

  • @calebnome1194
    @calebnome1194 Жыл бұрын

    As a First Nation Canadian I think it would be awesome if you covered the wars between the different tribes in Canada

  • @xv02greedo37

    @xv02greedo37

    9 ай бұрын

    He Won’t Do It Nobody Cares About Our History Except for Us😤🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @dsxa918

    @dsxa918

    8 ай бұрын

    That's bullshitism, Greedo - I saved a image today of what is said to be the distribution of tribes in North America in 1500 and I did recognise many names given, so that says to me there is much anthropology to comprehend; especially curious would be the politics of otherwise 'socially advantaged' if not Advanced cultures.

  • @maxwellhayden5261

    @maxwellhayden5261

    7 ай бұрын

    do it yourself.

  • @markschuler1511

    @markschuler1511

    16 күн бұрын

    Sure, he doesn't care about "your" history, that's why he didn't make this video. 😅​@xv02greedo37

  • @somefuckstolemynick

    @somefuckstolemynick

    12 күн бұрын

    A a Swede with absolutely no connection to Canada, that would be dope. Know absolutely nothing about it.

  • @asdfasdf-dd9lk
    @asdfasdf-dd9lk Жыл бұрын

    I'd be super interested to see a video on Arsenical bronze, it was an alternate method of making bronze with Arsenic instead of Tin, with some arguments about it actually predating the "traditional" method.

  • @guacre2675

    @guacre2675

    Жыл бұрын

    It very likely did predate tin bronze. In fact, it would explain how Mesopotamians discovered alloys. Many copper ores are naturally contaminated with arsenic, so whether or not they intended to make bronze, it would have been anyways.

  • @maxwellhayden5261

    @maxwellhayden5261

    7 ай бұрын

    Shut the hell up.

  • @sdhappyprince
    @sdhappyprince Жыл бұрын

    @NORTH02 should be writing a much needed history book revised version for school kids who still think stone age is all about stones and wild sapiens and Neanderthal were ancestors

  • @ElizabethDMadison
    @ElizabethDMadison Жыл бұрын

    The Wisconsin Historical Society Library has a small museum that has a very large and varied collection of these copper artifacts, I wandered in there one day and was amazed, I didn't even know that the natives used copper tools.

  • @charlesyoung2530

    @charlesyoung2530

    11 ай бұрын

    You didn't know because it is unique to that region.

  • @ElizabethDMadison

    @ElizabethDMadison

    11 ай бұрын

    @@charlesyoung2530 More recently i went to the Geology Museum which is also on the UW Madison campus, they had examples of massive natural chunks of copper metal that can be found (rarely) in the region, I think they said it was glacial related, these were not tiny pieces like when people pan for gold, nor ore that would have to be smelted, but a veritable boulder of definite metal, you could touch it so I knocked on it with my knuckles and it had a bit of a ring and vibration, solid metal. it made sense that the natives had to have occasionally found these substantial size globs of pure copper that they were able to figure out how to use to good advantage. But it would not have been something they found often.

  • @gabrielstanford5370
    @gabrielstanford5370 Жыл бұрын

    I am very interested in Mississippian cultures. Here in Mississippi we are taught in elementary that all north american native people built mounds as a way to bury their dead. I would like to learn about mound building, Mississippian cultures, or anything related :) Love your vids

  • @1Loc2dabrain3
    @1Loc2dabrain39 ай бұрын

    I'm from Michoacan, Mex My ancestors have using copper for centuries, if not thousands of years. It's still abundantly used today...

  • @Jason-hg1pc

    @Jason-hg1pc

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm from Tanana, Ak, my ancestors have been using copper as well, but I have mutated into blacksmithing.

  • @1Loc2dabrain3

    @1Loc2dabrain3

    9 ай бұрын

    @@Jason-hg1pcpeople today mainly use it for pottery and some jewelry, there's even a town "Santa Clara del Cobre" literally meaning Santa Clara of copper due to the abundance of it in that region...

  • @Jason-hg1pc

    @Jason-hg1pc

    9 ай бұрын

    @@1Loc2dabrain3 I'm not sure what quantities of copper are extracted now, just that there was at some point enough that it now specifies a regional dialect of our Native language.

  • @taylorharvey3980
    @taylorharvey39806 ай бұрын

    growing up in michigan and having at least two field trips a year to our local reservation and being taught by the people who live there i wasn't aware that a lot of this info wasnt widely known and it makes me really take into account how lucky i was in that aspect to learn the things i did so early on

  • @pittbullking87
    @pittbullking87 Жыл бұрын

    At the mound site Poverty Point in NW Louisiana copper from the Great Lakes region has been found. Poverty Point, which dates to around 1800 BC until 1200 BC, is also a World Heritage Site.

  • @johnharker7194
    @johnharker7194 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if they ever dropped a hunk of ore into hot coals on accident, and the wind blew just right and smelted it. Like, they vaguely knew about smelting, but it was a parlor trick because native copper was so abundant.

  • @kovona

    @kovona

    Жыл бұрын

    Most copper ores only start breaking down effectively at around 1200'C - you'll be hard press to smelt it with just a campfire. You need the containment of a furnace or kiln to concentrate heat.

  • @pauld7704
    @pauld7704 Жыл бұрын

    I’d like to see you cover the Chaco culture, especially their discovery of the northern lunar standstill cycle. It’s one of my favorite ancient cultures to learn about.

  • @patriciamccormick9321
    @patriciamccormick9321 Жыл бұрын

    I love it when you drop a video and can’t wait to carve out the time to watch it as soon as possible.

  • @deepquake9
    @deepquake9 Жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video as usual. Thank you!

  • @joewilson1052
    @joewilson1052 Жыл бұрын

    It blows me away I only just found this channel. It's great! Thanks for the hard work and great info!

  • @Where_is_Waldo
    @Where_is_Waldo Жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video and an absolutely fascinating subject. Thank you sir.

  • @AncientAmericas
    @AncientAmericas Жыл бұрын

    Hey hey! What do we have here? Very well researched video and gorgeous visuals!

  • @NORTH02

    @NORTH02

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, your video was a huge inspiration! Your channnel is fantastic!

  • @AncientAmericas

    @AncientAmericas

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NORTH02 Wow! That is really cool to hear. Thank you! Hope you cover more Native American history down the road. I'm subbed to you so I don't miss it.

  • @CostaCola

    @CostaCola

    13 күн бұрын

    WHAT COMMENT SECTION CROSS-OVER??

  • @heritageoutdoorsproduction2460
    @heritageoutdoorsproduction2460 Жыл бұрын

    Just made my Monday morning much less mundane, my friend! Another amazing video, your quality throughout the years just keeps getting better and better. It’s astounding that you manage school and this channel so well. My favorite channel on yt, and I’m not alone, keep up the good work! I’d love to see a video on the different shelters and structures built by the ancient peoples of the americas throughout time from the paleo-Indian to the Mississippian era’s. Thanks!

  • @She_C
    @She_C9 ай бұрын

    You are a great creator!

  • @micahpocket
    @micahpocket Жыл бұрын

    perfect timing!

  • @kobebarka8633
    @kobebarka8633 Жыл бұрын

    another brilliant piece! I can like the video as soon I open it because I know it’s gonna be amazing as always!

  • @jeffreyhanson3769
    @jeffreyhanson3769 Жыл бұрын

    Your content is amazing! Thanks again

  • @declanrex9435
    @declanrex9435 Жыл бұрын

    The true GOAT of KZread narration. I love your stuff and your soothing voice is cherry on top

  • @joeshmoe8345
    @joeshmoe8345 Жыл бұрын

    just love when I realize it’s a north 02 notification. always did, but the quality of your stuff has gotten so pro since about a year. thanks a fuckin bunch for sharing with us. keep it up big dog!

  • @kirkjones9639
    @kirkjones9639 Жыл бұрын

    Another outstanding video! You spoil us.

  • @bryanjames5256
    @bryanjames5256 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing content man. Keep it coming.

  • @265lgkp
    @265lgkpАй бұрын

    Best history/pre-history channel 🙏 Thank you

  • @SkepticalZack
    @SkepticalZack Жыл бұрын

    Always a good day when North 02 posts

  • @free_salmon
    @free_salmon Жыл бұрын

    Always a pleasure and benefits with you thanks and 💖

  • @carterkunkel7188
    @carterkunkel7188 Жыл бұрын

    Staying on the topic of Eastern North American cultures from the archaic-Woodland period. The red ochre culture would be extremely interesting

  • @carterkunkel7188

    @carterkunkel7188

    Жыл бұрын

    Or even just a video about the widespread use of red ochre across the planet

  • @FacesintheStone

    @FacesintheStone

    Жыл бұрын

    Painted Quartz with this rust based paint you speak of are found in North Carolina. Yellow, black, red and even green paints are used. There’s red on the artifact on my avatar there, that is a portrait of a Native American on a arrowhead shaped Quartz piece. It has over 200 faces on it, the first photo albums.

  • @code4chaosmobile
    @code4chaosmobile Жыл бұрын

    Great video, always worth watching twice :) I was wondering if there is enough content for a video about nets, and it's history and innovation. I'm curious if they were used in parallel or if the tech came before or after other known hunting/fishing technologies of the ancient past. Thanks again, my day is always a little brighter after some North 02

  • @dracodistortion9447
    @dracodistortion9447 Жыл бұрын

    I've been binge watching your channel recently, and i love it. Here are some topics I'd love to see you explore: •Indo-European migration and culture •Rise and fall of the Celts •Germanic peoples and their development from Indo-Europeans •the Haudenosaunee and their known history/customs •history of the Ainu

  • @maxwellhayden5261

    @maxwellhayden5261

    7 ай бұрын

    no one like it when someone else tells them what to do. if you want good content, let him make what he wants to.

  • @Borsuk3344
    @Borsuk3344 Жыл бұрын

    Even higher volume in the future please. Much easier to lower than to raise.

  • @eggmasterproductions1768
    @eggmasterproductions1768 Жыл бұрын

    Hey man, love your content and keep it up.

  • @loke6664
    @loke6664 Жыл бұрын

    Metal working in the Americas is certainly fascinating. The arsenic bronze of the people of Tiwanaku is just as fascinating as the copper working at the Great lakes and I think they also is worth a vid, a lot of people today seems to think that gold was the only metal used in pre Columbian Americas and that isn't true, but besides some possible iron working by vikings in Newfoundland the arsenic bronze was the height of metallurgy before 1492 at least to my knowledge. If you wonder why arsenic bronze wasn't more wide spread, the Incas and Mayans used it a little but making it is a rather dangerous process and while it is far superior to copper it is less effective then tin based bronze. A similar but not identical metal was used in pre historian Eastern Europe for a while (it had some components but a bit different mix of them). Anyways, super interesting. :)

  • @anonymousthesneaky220

    @anonymousthesneaky220

    Жыл бұрын

    I knew the Inca used bronze, but I did not know the details here, thanks!

  • @loke6664

    @loke6664

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anonymousthesneaky220 Yeah, most people don't which is why I think Milo should do some more vids about metalworking in the Americas. Gold working also could make an interesting episode, how they mined and worked gold over the 2 continents is rather interesting too but it is a bit more well known. Shows like "Ancient aliens" like to pretend people were still living in the stone age until Columbus since they can claim any sign of higher technology is made by aliens or inspired by but I think that is a bit racist, they were not stupid. Iron really didn't become a thing until after the bronze age collapse in Eurasia since the tin trading died it, it is however a bit of a mystery why bronze working didn't become more popular in the Americas even if it was dangerous, bronze hammers and chisels certainly makes building stuff in stone easier even if arsenic bronze have it's own problems.

  • @anonymousthesneaky220

    @anonymousthesneaky220

    Жыл бұрын

    @@loke6664 I think it might have cultural reasons as well as technological ones. The stoneworking skills in the Americas were extremely high, so switching to bronze probably did not seem very beneficial, or at least worth the risk, to the average person. Secondly, the high-quality stone trades were extensive, so switching to bronze might not have been good economically. Finally, many tools and weapons were very important culturally, so people may not have wanted to give up traditions. I think it would be cool to see a video about the Aztec macuahuitl, just because I think they are cool.

  • @loke6664

    @loke6664

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anonymousthesneaky220 Those are some good points and there were probably not a single reason to why bronze weapons weren't common in South America. I don't think the economical reason is good enough though, copper and bronze jewelry was already pretty common so the trade routes for it already existed and it was the bronze trade that created the economical boom in Europe and middle east, when it collapsed so did most societies in what is called "the bronze age collapse". The Tiwanaku did use bronze tools and tool marks on places like Pumu punku seems to indicate they used far more then what we found which points towards them being melted into new tools over and over so at least they used them a lot. I am not sure about the Incas though, it is possible they used them more then we think and most ended up as jewelry eventually. Bronze have the advantage that it can be reused many times, stone tools are far harder, when they break you sometimes can rework them into smaller tools but often they are just trashed which means we will find a lot more of them. But weapons were clearly rare and more or less we are just talking about knives there. Since they made swords out of wood and obsidian, it is pretty odd that we never found any bronze swords in South America even if they were expensive and not popular. It is a rather obvious thing and the color and looks of them should make them a thing for royalty at least, but if they ever made any they would have to been short since the arsenic bronze is not great for huge weapons. We do still lack a lot of knowledge about the topic, they have found some interesting bronze items in the waters of lake Titicaka but there have been pretty limited archaeological surveys there so far so maybe something will pop up in the future. And yeah, the macuahuitl was rather awesome. :)

  • @anonymousthesneaky220

    @anonymousthesneaky220

    Жыл бұрын

    @@loke6664 I think bronze was used fairly extensively by the Inca, both for weapons and tools, but I haven't heard of anyone else using bronze as much. Your points about economic values not being as much of a cause are good and make sense. I still think it is possible that it was economically tied. If the groups of people who hold power in major trade routes are more likely to have the logistics to process ore, but do not have the natural ore deposits, they are probably not going to encourage the use of metals, as that will open competition and possibly close their hold on the trade routes. Meanwhile, if the people in places with deposits do not have the infrastructure to process ore, they may want metal trades to expand, but may not have the means. That could explain why metal began to be used only for personal items, and therefore personal purchases. The wealthiest could afford to have the ore processed but would limit the processing to keep their trades safe. The deposits in question would probably be arsenic, as it is more rare and much harder to process. This is all just speculation, and, as you said, there are most likely many reasons. Thank you for your excellent points and a good discussion!

  • @andreabertini3788
    @andreabertini3788 Жыл бұрын

    Quality content as usual pal, and I'm glad that you're learning Italian! Se ti va puoi fare un video sul neolitico italiano e sulla cultura Terramare. Ancora complimenti e tanti saluti!

  • @NORTH02

    @NORTH02

    Жыл бұрын

    Forse quando sarò in italia, visiterò alcuni siti dell'età della pietra. Sicuramente Otzi

  • @scpdatabase969
    @scpdatabase969 Жыл бұрын

    Can you do an episode about farming but on a worldwide scale? How did the idea originate, did it pass from group to group, or did humans discover it across continents within a couple thousand years of each other? Is it entirely a misconception that farming sprung up quickly and dominated as the way of life vs Hunter gatherer? You might have something similar already, I’m not sure. I’ve just never heard a solid explanation for how farming took over the world…

  • @ruthanneseven

    @ruthanneseven

    Жыл бұрын

    @Ammonite Studios If you pay attention in nature, as early people did, it would have been a no-brainer for them. The art of farming is different. Soil matters, and can easily be exhausted of mineral content. That's a huge problem in farming today, and a good reason to keep supporting local farmers. Over production for export exasperates the problem.

  • @chonqmonk

    @chonqmonk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ruthanneseven *exacerbates

  • @machematix

    @machematix

    Жыл бұрын

    @Ammonite Studios What I find interesting is that agriculture is a scale, not a binary yes/no. Would nomadic groups who remove weed plants (eg. strangling vines) from their favorite fruit trees be considered agriculture? What if they were planting the crops they then weeded? What if they only returned to that area for two weeks of the year, is that considered farming? Two months? Conversely, if a group is fairly settled (eg. 9 months in one place, winter in another location)and for a couple of generations have been planting their favorite food sources and even altering the landscape by say, removing trees or splitting a stream for basic irrigation, is that agriculture?

  • @robertscheinost179

    @robertscheinost179

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chonqmonk Good one! Keep in mind when people post a comment they are not writing a term paper and mistakes creep in. Still, a good catch!

  • @b.a.erlebacher1139

    @b.a.erlebacher1139

    Жыл бұрын

    Agriculture spread from several independant centers around the world. The big advantage of agriculture is that under suitable conditions even primitive farming can support far more people per unit area than hunting and gathering. When farmers from the east moved into Europe they both interbred with and displaced earlier populations which ended up on lands unsuitable for farming. Long before DNA technology was invented, someone very cleverly used data from blood donor typing across Europe to map this effect. One of the best markers is Rh- which was apparently common in palaeolithic Europe but nowhere else on earth. The maps of Rh- frequency show increasing incidence moving up into the Alps and westward into the Pyranees. The highest incidence was in the Basques. Btw, if you are Rh-, try not to get into situations requiring blood transfusion in parts of the world without a significant population of European descent, ideally western European.

  • @vaughnslavin9784
    @vaughnslavin9784 Жыл бұрын

    I learned something new! Thank you.

  • @Adam-wl8wn
    @Adam-wl8wn Жыл бұрын

    You could do a look at how cultures even up to the modern day use salvaged metal from shorelines and junk etc to make arrowheads and tools etc.

  • @oscargranda5385
    @oscargranda53855 ай бұрын

    Excelent video.....im gonna go deep with this ancient chopper culture...thank you!!!!

  • @mothturtle7897
    @mothturtle7897 Жыл бұрын

    6:48 I'm immediately reminded of those rocking knives you can get which are great for dicing, particularly herbs.

  • @EdinburghFive

    @EdinburghFive

    10 ай бұрын

    An ulu knife.

  • @guymanuel4260
    @guymanuel4260 Жыл бұрын

    Notification gang

  • @jb-vb8un
    @jb-vb8un Жыл бұрын

    GREAT MATERIAL, as always

  • @kingofwingo
    @kingofwingo Жыл бұрын

    Awesome, can't wait to learn something interesting.

  • @marcoblauwe
    @marcoblauwe Жыл бұрын

    A video about the first signs for the use of Iron in Anatolia would be so great 😃👍

  • @redriver6541
    @redriver6541 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the endless education and entertainment North02. I love what you do man.

  • @timlopes67
    @timlopes67 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video.

  • @repetemyname842
    @repetemyname842 Жыл бұрын

    The Neville Museum in Green Bay has a decent display of copper artifacts, lots of petrified wood and saber tooth cat fossils as well, if you are in town its definitely worth a look.

  • @reneemoore4292
    @reneemoore4292 Жыл бұрын

    Love your voice❤and the material is interesting too👌

  • @andrewlabat9963
    @andrewlabat9963 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video, I, like most, had no idea they used any metal, and had no idea pure copper could found in such quantity..

  • @domcarter4326
    @domcarter4326 Жыл бұрын

    I'd like to see a video on the ancient celts

  • @GillyBillman
    @GillyBillman Жыл бұрын

    Just watched the new Graham Hancock series on Netflix. So fuggin good! Glad to see him gaining the respect he deserves.

  • @NORTH02

    @NORTH02

    Жыл бұрын

    No, Graham is a charlatan pseudoscientist.

  • @ptptpt123

    @ptptpt123

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NORTH02 journalist, not scientist or pseudoscientist

  • @michaelfoulkes9502

    @michaelfoulkes9502

    4 ай бұрын

    Grahm Hancock speaks the truth.

  • @sophiekwinters
    @sophiekwinters Жыл бұрын

    EARLY F YEAH ILY NORTH 02

  • @chrisamon4551
    @chrisamon4551 Жыл бұрын

    The Mississippians made all sorts of regular tools out of copper. Axes, arrowheads, a copper knife fashioned to look like a stone knife and I read that the looting company pulled a “doctor’s kit” out of Spiro Mounds made entirely out of copper. The doctor’s kit was reported as lost by the looters shortly after discovery so I don’t have a better description, but it wasn’t all just stuff for the elites during Mississippian times. You should really make a video about them.

  • @maxwellhayden5261

    @maxwellhayden5261

    7 ай бұрын

    and yet you are just spreading more speculation.

  • @rocroc
    @rocroc Жыл бұрын

    As a Northeast Ohioan, I found this to be an even more interesting video than usual. We were heavily influenced by the Indian culture here and I would like to know more about it. Just add it to your growing list of things people want to see. I suspect you already have a very long list:-) Thanks.

  • @ililililiililiililililiili2064

    @ililililiililiililililiili2064

    Жыл бұрын

    You weren’t influenced enough if you’re referring to them as Indians. Which tribes influenced your culture as an Ohioan.

  • @rocroc

    @rocroc

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ililililiililiililililiili2064 - I suppose you could call them whatever you like including Native Americans or Indigenous People. I grew up near the Cuyahoga Valley/Portage Trail (now Cuyahoga Valley National Park) and I call them Indians. There were six major Indian tribes in Ohio including the Shawnee, Seneca-Cayuga, Lenape, Wyandot, Ottawa, Myaamia. The Iroquois and offshoot Cherokee also played a roll as they moved down the valley and into many of the Southeast states to form the Cherokee Nation. It doesn't end there though because influential Ohio Indian Chiefs (Tecumsa, Blue Jacket, Joseph Brant) had a wide impact on other tribes across the country. It isn't just Ohio either. Indians had a significant impact on the Revolutionary War with homelands widely spread throughout the Northeast and Canada. I might add that the name Ohio came from a Seneca word meaning "great river" or some would say "beautiful river".

  • @dennisfarris5960

    @dennisfarris5960

    Жыл бұрын

    I've met folk from your area that pan gold successfully that was brought in by the glaciers. Highway Culverts can be collect points.

  • @rocroc

    @rocroc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dennisfarris5960 - Dennis, about 20,000 years ago there was a mile high glacier over my property. All that's left now are some big boulders from Canada and a thick layer of clay soil. You can see cut marks on the boulders that were made as they were pushed along the ground. It is a beautiful area though in spite of that clay soil. I wish there was gold in it but I fear it would be difficult to find. There are sand and gravel pits east and west of me about five miles away. You never know what you might find on the perimeter of those pits.

  • @krono5el

    @krono5el

    Жыл бұрын

    Is theer a big Hindu culture in Ohio, i didnt know a lot of Indians resided there?

  • @o2807
    @o28079 ай бұрын

    Thank you for correcting my same belief

  • @cyankirkpatrick5194
    @cyankirkpatrick5194 Жыл бұрын

    This is very interesting about the use of metal. Oh by the way my cousin suggested your channel and I'm subscribed and she's going to get back with you she's having trouble with her computer.

  • @Maxcom12
    @Maxcom12 Жыл бұрын

    Good video. I like you never knew that Native American societies worked metal, in the modern day USA and Canada at least, until relatively recently. I think you're statement at around 14:38 pretty much hits the nail on the head on why copper tools fell out of fashion in what is now the United States. I am less sure about the control elites had over the copper trade. We know that trading networks were huge across the continent, so could a commoner from a culture associated with the Mississippians get access to a small amount of copper ore if they really wanted to? Maybe? But if they were more concerned with accessing materials for practical reasons, stone might have always been the better choice. I have always felt that our understanding of Mississippian culture at its height was not well understood and its hard to confirm just how much power an elite would have. At another point in the video, you mention that there were experimental tests were conducted on recreations of copper tools to determine their durability. I'd love to read them if they are accessible somewhere and not locked behind some journal paywall. I had been under the impression that pure copper actually made a relatively poor tool, as it was very malleable and alloys (which the Old Copper Culture didn't have) were stronger. Please don't take this as me challenging your video, I think you did a great job of explaining the topic, I'd just love more things to read about it. The Old Copper Culture (or complex?) has always been fascinating to me and its great that well made videos are popping up to challenge misconceptions about pre-columbian America. edit: lol I just saw you put your sources in the description, I'll just go there. Thanks for doing that too, lots of youtubers dont bother.

  • @ctwriter1670
    @ctwriter1670 Жыл бұрын

    As I was watching your video (loved it, thank you), I was waiting to see whether copper was used in woodworking, and to what extent. And as you said, it was used, though limited. But it leads me to one of my fascinations which is Viking boat building. (First knowledge ability to create a vessel, the magnitude of the labor, and then the motivation and courage to go out into the cold ocean). My understanding is they first felled and split trees using stone tools. (which is amazing onto itself.). And then at some point they discovered how to create metal, and then tools. (How in the world this technology unfolded… how that threshold of knowledge and craftsmanship was crossed, I can only wonder). And from then on only it was the metal tools in the making of boats. I lack the detailed understanding of which metals are used in woodworking. (Hardness ranking?). I assume it’s all about smelting and the level of hardness. I guess that makes all the difference. Fascinating to look at the effect of metal on history, building, exploration…!!

  • @AbbyThePiLL
    @AbbyThePiLL Жыл бұрын

    Pre-Columbian Caribbean peoples and cultures. It would be very interesting to gain a deeper understanding of the very first people encountered in the "New" world, specifically the Taino and the Caribs, but Arawak cultures in general as well.

  • @haraldraich7292
    @haraldraich7292 Жыл бұрын

    Che bel video! Grande :)

  • @cedley1969
    @cedley1969 Жыл бұрын

    Cold working copper would probably have been beneficial as work hardening would occur which would almost double the hardness of the resulting tool.

  • @SteveC38
    @SteveC38 Жыл бұрын

    Great Job!

  • @Mothman_Libra
    @Mothman_Libra Жыл бұрын

    Great video great info. I remember being a young boy and taught in school that Native Americans only used stone tools and had no metal works when Europeans came and it never sat right with me. Come to find out they may have been using copper tools before the settlers themselves!

  • @rafaelaldana1503
    @rafaelaldana1503 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video, very informative. Can you make a video about the Caral civilization or the Moche culture in Perú? Thanks

  • @Johnny_Vee
    @Johnny_Vee Жыл бұрын

    Great music choice for the closer

  • @widget0028
    @widget0028 Жыл бұрын

    Every archeological find had an owner cussing and looking everywhere for it

  • @languagelearningwithap
    @languagelearningwithap Жыл бұрын

    Love the channel. Thanks. I super interested in information on pre-European languages in the Americas, specifically dominant languages that are still used by minority populations today. Also, writing systems, calendars, etc...

  • @lesliesylvan
    @lesliesylvan Жыл бұрын

    Is there any credence to Harvard prof's "America B.C" regarding Egyptians hiring Phoenicians/et al bringing copper from Mississippi down from Great Lakes; helped build Collosas of Rhodes? Any spectrographic materials available. Especially at such purity~

  • @WorldWokeApeCult

    @WorldWokeApeCult

    Жыл бұрын

    No, the evidence doesn’t support Fell’s ideas.

  • @i_know_it_poet
    @i_know_it_poet Жыл бұрын

    Wow. This was an incredibly informative video. I live in the region and had no clue that copper working ever occurred in the native population. I would love to find a artifact from the old copper culture one day. Thank you and keep making great vids!

  • @1-2346
    @1-2346 Жыл бұрын

    Heyyy man the things that you are making are awesome please can you do a video of proto - indo - europeans

  • @chrispy804
    @chrispy804 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Would really like to see more lore about early native American life please! Honestly, just any native groups really please

  • @Jason-hg1pc

    @Jason-hg1pc

    9 ай бұрын

    Research the Institute of American Indian Arts, in Santa Fe, NM, they at least have a library and teachers that might be able to help you. I was a student and literally learned about the Copper Culture at the same time I was given instruction and assignments to shape the same material. I introduced myself to blacksmithing, however, and now I've returned to give a few short classes on that.

  • @FacesintheStone
    @FacesintheStone Жыл бұрын

    Great video ❤

  • @scribebat
    @scribebat Жыл бұрын

    i was aware of the Copper Culture here in the US but not to this depth. Why it changed to what might have seemed a regression, not sure but can take a guess. Winters in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, where most of the copper came from, can be really brutal. Easy to imagine a ready supply from a handful of local families coming to an abrupt end with a particularly severe winter combined with maybe an unusually high incidence of Wendigo attacks... Following that, while there may have been an unabated demand for it, now if someone wanted it they had to send someone to the location who might not be as familiar with the area to hunt for the material; not nearly so easy as simply trading for it. An abrupt change in availability could be a very simple answer to why the change from everyday implements to elite body adornment. But that's just a guess... Still have a small nugget of copper i picked up on a Lake Superior beach in the UP, not far from Copper Harbor, on a visit to the area with my family when i was a kid.

  • @EugenioFilippi
    @EugenioFilippi Жыл бұрын

    If you need Italian tips ket me know :) great video as always... Saluti

  • @stevel379
    @stevel379 Жыл бұрын

    There was a lesser known and much smaller copper culture in the Pacific Northwest along the lower Columbia River basin and up to Puget Sound. With the exception of a very few and extremely rare pieces that were used in weaponry, it was all ornamental. Most was hammered into small flat sheets and rolled into long hollow beads to adorn clothing or made into a necklace when strung on some cordage and combined with shell beads. I've owned a number of the long copper beads over the years, some still with the original cordage and beads attached. If you're looking for an interesting subject for future videos, one subject I would suggest would be on the Lovelock Cave in Nevada. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovelock_Cave Also one of my favorite artifacts to collect here in the west are Paleo Crescent blades. They came and went with the Clovis culture, and are only found in the western US. Their use remains somewhat of a mystery, but I suspect they were used to tip an Atlatl dart to hunt waterfowl since they are almost always found where water is or once was. Great videos, keep it up.

  • @fessendenful

    @fessendenful

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm no expert, however, I went to a summer camp on Lopez Island (near Vancouver Island) that celebrated a "Potlatch" as part of the activities. I remember specific mention of a tradition of "breaking the copper" as one component of the ceremonies. I really don't recall much more.

  • @Superburtclub
    @Superburtclub Жыл бұрын

    I’m loving the videos about the americas. I’ve always been interested in native culture more than anywhere else- that said, I’d watch a video you made even if it was about beetle poop.

  • @terrysincheff6682
    @terrysincheff6682 Жыл бұрын

    Could you cover the Hopewellian mound builders of Minnesota. Are there any mounds remaining in Mound MN?

  • @janebennett9930
    @janebennett9930 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic as usual. I knew little about the copper age in any area of the earth. Stone yes, and bronze, but not copper alone. I’d love to more more about copper in UK and Ireland where I’m from. 😊😘

  • @patricknorton5788
    @patricknorton5788 Жыл бұрын

    Very interesting!

  • @samb1123
    @samb1123 Жыл бұрын

    How about the Copper culture of the Central Arctic of Canada centred at Kugluktuk Nunavut. The people in this area were using copper into the 20th century and probably still do for artistic purposes.

  • @Jason-hg1pc

    @Jason-hg1pc

    9 ай бұрын

    Look up the Ahtna Athabascan people.

  • @lif3andthings763
    @lif3andthings763 Жыл бұрын

    Please do a video on the discovery of iron in Africa. It is said to have developed there independently and the earliest whilst skipping bronze.

  • @Jason-hg1pc

    @Jason-hg1pc

    9 ай бұрын

    You have the option to join ABANA, they have some excellent resources.

  • @samuelbutler3215
    @samuelbutler3215 Жыл бұрын

    Could you do an episode about agriculture and animal husbandry in the Neolithic especially the tools and techniques utilized and how they came about

  • @existentiallydead5998
    @existentiallydead5998 Жыл бұрын

    im from the upper peninsula of michigan its an under appreciated fact of history especially since i wanna do archology its nice to have it in ur bark yard so to speak

  • @BlueBonnie764
    @BlueBonnie764 Жыл бұрын

    What a comliment it is to you, before we finish viewing new work, We long for more. Thanx...get back to work.😉

  • @TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods
    @TyrSkyFatherOfTheGods Жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic video! As for future content, I'd be really interested in learning more about the Aurignacian and Gravettian industries, and what distinguishes the two.

  • @stevejohnson3357
    @stevejohnson3357 Жыл бұрын

    2 things I would find interesting are the development of pottery and the precontact civilizations in the Amazon basin and central America.

  • @chrisbflory
    @chrisbflory Жыл бұрын

    Tired 5am rainy Monday before work… HEY! A new North O2! Gonna be a good day, Tater! Was not disappointed.

  • @nickmeeker3707
    @nickmeeker3707 Жыл бұрын

    Love the trade route map. What is the mica for ? I'm from Maryland and hunt Calvert quite often and I've read a lot about the teeth here making it all the way over there.

  • @michaelabultman3209
    @michaelabultman3209 Жыл бұрын

    I recently found a hefty nugget of float copper in a collapsed bluff alongside lake Michigan. Crazy to think how I was likely the first human to touch and see it since it had been buried there so long ago

  • @glennpallast3131
    @glennpallast3131 Жыл бұрын

    a video on the Entelodont would be great.

  • @nirdale
    @nirdale Жыл бұрын

    I would love a video about the Romans. Their concrete is fascinating. Or their siege weapons? Thanks for the great videos.

  • @petehoover6616
    @petehoover6616 Жыл бұрын

    When you said that they broke the stone off copper nuggets by heating them and then pouring water on them I wondered how that was discovered? Oh yeah! In the sweat lodge! Imagine using one of those nuggets as a heating rock in a sweat lodge. And seeing the stone break off. (It happened to someone first, and once the shock wore off they taught others) Sandia peak behind Albuquerque is full of malachite. Albuquerque had pre-contact pottery. Shreveport had beautiful hand shaped pendants made of sheet copper. The Old Copper Culture had no pottery. As was said by medieval explorers about Central Asian nomads, "their fires were not hot enough to get metals."

  • @robertscheinost179

    @robertscheinost179

    Жыл бұрын

    More likely rocks from a fire pit. It's called fire cracked rock and has been around as long as fire. It's good to speculate though.

  • @petehoover6616

    @petehoover6616

    Жыл бұрын

    @@robertscheinost179 imagine how startled the first person was to get answered by a parrot! And you know those chimps that use stones and sticks to open nuts? Don'tcha think they might have learned that from people or our ancestors? And I just found a biblical joke about hot fires. Some politician recently mentioned a Moloch, a Phoenecian idol made of clay that held a fire in its belly and children were shoved into it. Uh, that is an iron smelter. So here's the story; ironmongering came from the north, from the Hittites. The Phoenecian got it when the Jews didn't know about it yet. Not only is iron harder than bronze, it's about 5% of the cost of a similar bronze tool. Iron is really really common. The Phoenecian at some point needed to keep a trade secret. So they invited Jews to see a ceremony, shoved a doll into a smelter while someone his behind it making baby cry sounds and the credulous Jews went home and wrote that the Phoenecian burnt children. Here's the point: you are supposed to already know what iron smelters are. You are supposed to get the joke. It's a bible story that could have been written by Monty Python. The moral is to love your enemies so they don't become cartoon monsters and you underestimate them and wind up looking idiotic.

  • @EnCounterCultureMedia
    @EnCounterCultureMedia11 ай бұрын

    fantastic video! thank you for helping dispel myths about us, we are treated like cave men stuck in the stone age when in reality we used things like bones and stone for mass produced tools. Can you do a video on the armour of the northwest cultures? specifically their helmets? they all have unique shapes but i hypothesize that their shapes arent aesthetic primarily but actually primarily serve to counter different weapons and aesthetic is secondary. some things id like to add. the societies of the great lakes havent had "elites" in their societies. They have complex systems of social sanctions on all leaders, chiefs were an elected position with very neutered powers. Instead of a heirarchy like you might be thinking of where its top down, the power was held by those below them because they dont have political immunity and they can be removed if they abuse their power. The main reason for switching was because of the cheaper caloric expense like you said but you left out the important fact that because of how native copper was formed it meant its structure was very brittle and susceptible to breaking if struck with force from the wrong angle. This is why smelting makes metal so strong, because unlike native copper which have nuggets and crystals you measure in inches, but smelting turns them to micrometre big crystals which lets it pack more tightly and bond stronger. Like how carbon can be easy to crumble when its coal but when its a perfect lattice like in a diamond then its super hard. The fragility of native copper is why it fell out of tool use in specific for them, while the decorative and religious jewellery and pendants and such stuck around. Not so much because a shift in social dynamics, if you study the ojibwe and iriquoian political structures you find that egalitarianism has always been central to their philosophies, from elected cheifs, to equal distribution of goods but also things people might not know like how chiefs are expected to be generous with their wealth or theyd be seen as unfit, and even have their horded wealth taken and given to another chief the people felt suitable. I mean imagine if you could just say "im sorry mr president but we all agree you're doing a bad job lets have another election" thats crazy to us in our current society. also im not a great lakes native im across the continent from southern Alberta so im not as well read on the nations out east.

  • @billymckee8044
    @billymckee8044 Жыл бұрын

    nice album of the week choice =)

  • @gaiusbrutus
    @gaiusbrutus Жыл бұрын

    Could you do a video on the pacific native cultures? Being from there I'd love to learn more about them

  • @tpobrienjr
    @tpobrienjr Жыл бұрын

    Enlightening. I would like to see a narrative on copper, bronze, and brass.

  • @itrofim7054
    @itrofim7054 Жыл бұрын

    Copper was also used in Mesoamérica. In the Michoacán region especially, for weapons s and tools pre European contact.