Hello Editor here who wrote the original version and edited the video. I hid a weegee in the video (luigi head), if you can find it it... well good job! I may do something with that!

@12LittleLew

Ай бұрын

Hint?

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

@@12LittleLew You have to "AWAKEN" your senses. Not to TOOT my own HORN. :P

@connt1nu3

Ай бұрын

Definitely a cool theory.

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

9:59 In the Flute of Awakening ;)

@jacobydefense6432

Ай бұрын

@@Banuune Middle Pipe

I will say that, in regards to the Zora, Goron, and Deku Links, those instruments could very well BE the Ocarina of Time, transformed by the mask, in much the same way that Link and his clothes are.

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

One of the weaker points of the theory yes. But it still doesn't change the fairy ocarina one. We skipped some games and their instruments since it would just repeat statements such as the Harp of Ages. Who litterly was used by The Oracle of Ages to train her powers.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

​@@kotlolish Totally random question but i wonder if the "training her powers" part also applies to Din and her Rod of Seasons? I don't recall Oracle of Seasons ever explaining why the rod exists but seeing as Din is able to control the seasons without i have to assume either she has far more mastery over her powers than Nayru does (possibly due to her been the "Goddess of Power" and all that) or the rod exists as a separate item with nothing to do with her.

@connt1nu3

Ай бұрын

@@kotlolish I do agree. An excellent theory. MatPat would be proud.

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

@@javiervasquez625 That has to do with the spirits of seasons who embody the temple of seasons. Din might be the controller of Seasons, but she never trained her powers at all. It was left to the 4 spirits. It's so Din could travel and be free. There's defintally a good story there.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

@@kotlolish Here's to hoping we return to Holodrum someday to learn more about the Spirits and their role watching over the seasons across the entire Zelda world.

Oh, I had forgotten how much I hate the harp in Skyward Sword! At least you actually play the ocarina, but here you just mindlessly strum the strings with zero musical intent. It's one thing if there was a more rhythmic nature to the glissandos, but it's essentially a consistent pulse of you going back and forth with no variation.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

Wouldn't mind seeing a harp instrument in future games provided that Nintendo makes the mechanic of playing it far more realistic and engaging compared to Skyward Sword.

I'm honestly a bit surprised no mention of Wind Waker was mentioned, where Link even conducted the Sages to do cool things, but it wasn't likely their instruments that allowed it, but their power as Sages.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

Personally i hold the headcanon that both the Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker baton are made of Timeshift Stones from Skyward Sword which is why they both possess time manipulation powers. Do note that whenever Link uses the Wind Waker it creates shiny "sprinkles" similar to the ocarina's implying some magical power of sorts which is inherent to the baton.

Quick correction here, although the ocarina is never used by link in oot to send himself through time, he does use it to send objects both forward and backwards in time, though this is normally only visible at one place in-game. Playing the song of time doesn't make the door of time-like blocks disappear, it sends them from the child era to the adult era and vice versa. This is normally only seeable in the lava room of Goron city.

I do have another theory about HOW exactly the Ocarina works. Maybe I'll make a video on that... next year xD

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

Maybe.. :P

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

@@kotlolish yeaaah.. The problem is that I'm working an an Elden Ring video, wich will take some time, after that the DLC is probably comming, so I'll need some time to focus on THAT and afterwards(november) Arcane is coming, and I'm pretty sure that there will be a lot to talk about, so arcane videos are also comming, somewhen xD And yeah. AFTER that, I'll probably go back to Zelda, make my updated Timeline video, talk about some TOTK stuff and only after that, I think I'll make the Ocarina video. But as I do have a real job and a life, I'm not able to focus too much time on video making, lol.

@RyuuKageDesu

Ай бұрын

Sounds intriguing...

@Banuune

Ай бұрын

@@RyuuKageDesu Haven't forgotten about you! As soon as my brain let's me free from Elden Ring, we're gonna make that video!

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

​@@Banuune You could also wait for when the Tears of the Kingdom Master Works art book comes out in early September to adress any possible new information regarding the Lore. :) With how packed the year is with great games filled with Lore you could always dedicate a specific month for a specific franchise.

I have always assumed that the Songs were magical themselves. Flat and Sharp talk about this. People wouldn't have written down their specific properties in verse if they weren't magical.

@drwily

Ай бұрын

good point!

Kind of like wands in Harry Potter, windlass magic is possible but it's easier with a "conduit" as you put it. Nice job!

@drwily

Ай бұрын

yes basically that

Finally a theory again!

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

Glad I was able to convince Wily to try it out ;)

@drwily

Ай бұрын

yeah took a whileeeee

I will even eventually be able to time travel without using the ocarina of time No joke

If it is made of timeshift stone, wouldn't the time stuff only work when striking it?

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

Another reason why it doesn't make sense, let alone time shift stones can only time travel back in small areas. Full on time travel always requires a gate. The only "true" time travel instrument is the Harp of Ages... wich the 1st song you learn from Nayru just opens portals (wich Nayru can do without a song) Then you learn a song from a compossor that only sends you back to the present... but he ain't an oracle or knows how the harp works... it's just a song he wrote... wich pushes it more in favor with blessed by the oracle of ages but the magic is STILL Link himself. And that harp isn't even made from Time Shift Stones. The reason I didn't include it in the original script is because it would just be retreading the same thing with the goddess harp. And we know from lore the harp of ages was used by Nayru to train her powers... so again the whole "instrument + song engages the magic of the user." So if anything.. it would just be repeating what we already discussed XD and lengthen the video with an unrelated instrument.. and if we cover that harp we have to cover every instrument in the legend of zelda series.

@19TheFallen

Ай бұрын

@@kotlolish The game always did describe the Ocarina of Time in a manner that made it seem like little more than a key to the Door of Time. Special and sacred, in that manner, but other than that, without the Sacred Stones and the Song of Time, it was nothing more than a common instrument in the hands of those who didn't know its significance. Because if you didn't have the Sacred Stones and didn't know the Song of Time, even if you had possession of the Ocarina of Time, the Door of Time would stay shut tight!

@drwily

Ай бұрын

lmao i guess?

@hanelyp1

29 күн бұрын

If it's an analog of the piezo-electric effect, both striking and sound can activate it.

@west3Dgaming

29 күн бұрын

Striking it could just be one method of activating a resonant frequency within the stones, like hitting a tuning fork. Playing the right notes could produce the same resonance

An incredibly interesting theory Dr. It seems that most of the powers are just useful only when needed haha. Super Smash Bro's Ultimate video update?

@drwily

Ай бұрын

yeah smash, i tried to write it but mannn i couldnt lmao

I always thought "what's so special about those instruments?" After this video... I now know, the answer is "not much"

how about the Ocarina of Time is just a better "conductor"? maybe the materials or a special enchantment allow it to channel the user's magic better

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

That could certainly apply to the other "magic instruments" across the series like the Recorder, the Ocarina of Winds, the Harp of Ages, the Wind Waker baton, etc. They all only enhance the Hero's innate magical power without been the actual source for the magic they create.

@drwily

Ай бұрын

maybe

Plus, if you learn how, you can play the Ocarina songs on a bottle or a sword, and they still work. ;)

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

Glitches don't count XD that would be cheating.

Hmm, I had always taken a straightforward interpretation of the acquiring the Ocarina of Time scene and placed more importance on the message Zelda left on the ocarina giving you the song than the actual instrument itself. To me, it was simply distinguished by being Link's link to Zelda.

The end 🤣

Yes again Dr wily wow amazing job and video i really love these videos 😍 thank you 😍 you made my day happier. Thx ❤️

@drwily

Ай бұрын

no problem!

@Scarlet.567

Ай бұрын

@@drwily thx again 🩷

9:35 Dr Zily background history.

@drwily

Ай бұрын

hell yeah, i worked at a farm from the age of 10 to 14

Weegee doin tumbles lol also, link sends blocks to the past and future in ocarina of time.. so..

@drwily

Ай бұрын

does it send them to the past and future??

I've always thought of it as a little of both tool and user. Also, if you want to talk about something I think many people overlook, you can look into the Ancient Cistern, from Skyward Sword. There are architectural elements we see in the current games, the structure was built by/for a people who can exist under and out of the water, and the whole thing seems to be about purifying water. All pointing to the existence of the Zora.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

There is also the Parellas who "served" the Water Dragon Faron in Lake Floria who, despite lacking the limbs to carry tools and carry out heavy lifting, could potentially have contributed to the construction of the many structures and locations spread across the Faron region of the surface world. Also let's not forget the mysterious builders of the Lanayru Mining Facility which according to the Lore used to be ridden with _sea water_ before it dried up possibly due to pollution combined with the constant mining of the Timeshift Stones. Personally if i had to pick either the Zora, Parellas or the builders of the Lanayru Mining Facility as responsible for the Ancient Cistern my bet would be on the latter given some of the elaborate architecture within the temple which the Zora have never been shown capable of doing across the series.

@RyuuKageDesu

Ай бұрын

@@javiervasquez625 I like the possible connection with the mines. Though, have two issues with the suggestions. We never see the Parellas out of water. They appear to completely avoid being out of water, if they can avoid it. Any part of a facility not submerged is worthless, and likely inaccessible, to them. (Though, helping is within reason, if they have a way in and out.) Then there are the builders of the mine. If the people could work just fine under water, there would be no point to draining the water. The people responsible for the Cistern are shown to traverse beneath the water as well as below. A bonus detail, is that the large statue has what could easily be scales on the back of the head.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

@@RyuuKageDesu You're right regarding the Parellas been exclusively water-based and thus making them an unlikely candidate as the creators of the (mostly) surface-based Ancient Cistern yet it's worth noting the existence of _evolution_ in the Zelda universe as shown with the Rito and Korok in The Wind Waker leaving open the possibility for the ancestors of the Parellas to have built the cistern before they evolved into a fully aquatic race of squid people. You're also right about the miners who built the Mining Facility lacking a reason to built the cistern without also draining the water yet i don't see why they would need to when they have _technology_ such as the advanced Ancient Robots who could carry out all the underwater construction in order to keep the water from draining. Given the religious significance of the Ancient Cistern i can easily see why the builders of the Mining Facility would build such a temple filled with water out of devotion for their beliefs. ¿Are those really scales behind the statue's head? Even if they are i don't see the logic in deducing it must have been the Zora considering nothing else within the statue even alludes to the Zora race to suggest they must have been the ones responsible for adding such a minuscule detail.

@RyuuKageDesu

Ай бұрын

@@javiervasquez625 I think they could be scales. The nose is also flat, fitting with the general Zora nose-less/flat-nosed faces. To me, the statue is more of a detail that could fit, if I am correct about the Zora connection, but doesn't directly demand it. It is also less of a stretch to consider the races we have seen, rather than create something new. Sure, it could be something we have never seen before. After all, there was no concept of a Korok before they were introduced; though it would have made no logical sense to theorize about such a race back when Ocarina of Time came out. Until the series includes another race that fits the bill, the Zora are the best option. Though, a few of us have a theory on who it was that constructed the nation we explore the remains of in Skyward Sword. People tend to love it or hate it, so I'll focus on the discussion at hand, for now. You are also correct in that evolution is an in universe thing that happens. But, evolution creates divergent species, not replacements. The Zora and Parella could have absolutely existed at the same time. Just like we have dogs and wolves; one branched out from the other, but we have both.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

@@RyuuKageDesu I would argue you're projecting about the statue been based on a Zora's body shape as we know Nintendo explicitly designed its appereance based on that of the real life Buddha statue which lacks any distinct features even alluding to the obviously fictional Zora race. _"Until the series included another race that fits the bill, the Zora are the best option"_ Why...? There's nothing in the statue which explicitly confirms its origin to be attributed to the Zora plus you have no reason to dismiss the builders of the Lanayru Mining Facility who's use of advanced technology could easily have allowed them to build the cistern without the need of draining the water. ¿Why does it matter if the Zora and Parellas existed "at the same time" when that does not address wether either of them was responsible for the Ancient Cistern's construction? As i pointed out above it's always plausible that an evolutionary ancestor of the Parellas could have been responsible for the cistern's creation just as the Zora were responsible for their many Domains before they evolved into the Rito by the time of The Wind Waker giving plausibility for such a scenario in regards to the currently water-based Parellas. While there's no evidence which corroborates this conclusion the Lore does allow for such a scenario to be possible given its track record of introducing races which change appereance over the span of time.

It is simple, Link has skill issue 🌚🌚

Two other things I would like to point out that might further give credence to this theory: first, if the Ocarina of Time itself had magical powers, then Ganondorf would have turned around and dove for it after Zelda threw it into the river. Instead, he keeps chasing her, either taking no notice of the Ocarina, or showing no interest in it at all. Secondly, I believe Zelda could manipulate time with the Ocarina because she was the Goddess of Time in mortal form, and therefore had that power. When Zelda sent Link back to his own time, he also gained a sort of power by being the Hero of Time, so now when Zelda gifted him with the Ocarina before the events of Majora's Mask, he had that special ability now, too. This was why he could use the Song of Time with any of the other instruments. Anyway, this is how your theory makes sense to me, I hope I could share a little more insight with you. Love the channel, keep up the good work!

FWIW, while Link doesn't send himself through time with the ocarina, he DOES send objects through time with it. It's not well demonstrated in the game but the way those Temple of Time blocks work is that you play the Song of Time and the blocks travel forward or back in time. You mostly don't see this since most of these blocks are in areas only one version of Link can access, but both Links can access the lava room in Goron City to confirm that this is how those blocks work. So, there is precedent for Link using the ocarina to send things through time, just like Zelda does at the end of the game.

Hey, Wily, did you see that the new LEGO Zelda set got revealed? You should do a video on that set!

I never thought about it before, but something they could’ve done that would’ve driven home that the Ocarina of Time was different from the Fairy Ocarina is make the Song of Time unique in one simple way: A single note that only the Ocarina of Time could produce, and the Fairly Ocarina could not. For example, they could’ve made the Fairy Ocarina use only the C-buttons, but not the A button. The Ocarina of Time could’ve added the A button, and the Song of Time, plus all songs of travel to each of the dungeons, could have incorporated that single note in each, thereby making playing those songs _impossible_ without the Ocarina of Time. Wouldn’t have made it magic. Just necessary.

Awesome Video Bro!

@drwily

Ай бұрын

cheers

@fatalwaffle1715

Ай бұрын

Cheers to you too. I wonder what happened to the Ocarina Of Time. It's nowhere to be found in BOTW and TOTK.

HOLY SHIT A ZELDA THEORY VIDEO?!?!?!? SHEEP GANG AINT GONNA HAVE SHIT ON US

@drwily

Ай бұрын

yeah rare upload hahahha

That was a great video, a lot of fun

@drwily

Ай бұрын

glad you liked it!

Going along the lines that Epona is drawn by sound, how does she just APPEAR from nowhere? You could leave her all the way at the other half of Hyrule Field, and you're all the way near Death Mountain, but she just shows up....

It's a bit of a stretch to say the Ocarina of Time isn't magical, but I do think it was designed to be more of a key rather than a reality warping artifact in OoT. Saria tells you that the Ocarina sounds 'different' if you contact her with the Ocarina of Time. It could be her just being perceptive, but if not... the Temple of time, and by extension the time blocks could have been designed to respond to its unique tone that the other ocarina won't match. Majora's Mask is where I disagree with you. Mainly with that the Ocarina not being the Deku pipes, etc... it literally is. It changes shape, it takes up the same slot in your inventory as the ocarina. And if I remember in the n64 version the icon doesn't change. When Link changes his form with the masks. none of his other equipment change, you still have those items but you can't use them. We know this isn't Link's inherent abilities because it's the masks that changes him. The Ocarina shouldn't be able to morph into pipes, drums and a guitar but it does anyway.

Think of the musical instruments as a wand. It channels magic through it as a host. The magic comes from the user who was blessed with it.

Alright Shiek teaches Link teleportation Songs and she uses a Harp and for each song the Ocerina glows with magic sparks matching the color of each song and she didn't teleport away just walked away

@drwily

Ай бұрын

well as link you can also play the song and not teleport

@villelater2708

29 күн бұрын

@@drwily alright I tried to to convince you it's magic... well erm special magic but well I do know it had a magic flashback enchanted on it to show you the song of time which cant be learned any other way and when played places the gems by magic that is exclusive to it...by Zeldas design im sure

I think they used to have magic all the time but magic was being used less and less and now only used for the royals and heroes to aid them,maybe the ocarina does have magic in it,just a small amount so not everyone can use it,like why did ganon want the ocarina of time for if it's not magic? I think only link,zelda and ganon had magic and the ocarina has a small amount but only enough of it to make sure it doesn't fall into the wrong hands

@drwily

Ай бұрын

hmmm fair fair coule be

If link uses his own magic power to play songs that has magical effects Then playing those songs should partially drain his magic meter

I mean it's the songs that generally give the Ocarina its powers. Then yeah as stated, depending on the person using the instrument could persuade the magical powers a certain way. That seems about right really.

Another W for Dr. W

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

I guess Dr. Light would only get Ls considering the initial in his name? (bad joke i know so i see my way to the door).

10:00 weegee head

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

Yesss

Technically correct, as if you hack the game to give you all the songs even the Fairy Ocarina can use them

@Kotlolish @Dr. Wily: It's nice to *FINALLY* meet the *EDITOR* of this *Channel* and you seem to have an awesome head on your shoulders. What a wonderful video this was and I can't wait for another collaboration between you two!!! ~ JonseyG 👲💖

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

I been here for 7 years and I have co-written and helped with scripts before. Been mentioned several times. I just don't need to be shouted out every video XD I am here in the comments :) And trust me. I didn't just give him 1 script!

@EchosOfWhiterun_5555

Ай бұрын

@@kotlolish I guess I'm not on the *Channel* as much as I thought I was, but anyway, I still believe that you have an *AWESOME* head on your shoulders and you guys do some *INCREDIBLE* collaborations together.... ~ JonseyG 👲💖

Just stopped by to say my favorite ocarina of time theory is that it was made out of timeshift stones from Skyward Sword

@west3Dgaming

29 күн бұрын

But it is generous to say this is "most likely" what it is made of. It is a retcon at best since timeshift stones weren't invented until like 20 years later

@drwily @kotlolish 9:59 LUIGI!

Dope video!!!!

I think both the songs and the ocarina are magical

Wow this is a legit solid theory❤

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

It's backed by Gameplay, Lore and Science! The trifecta of a perfect theory!

@frankbivona5924

Ай бұрын

However link sends blocks to the past and future in ocarina of time. So yes, link can infact teleport things through time with the ocarina. BUSTED THEORY!

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

@@frankbivona5924 Uuh has this been confirmed? Some blocks litterly teleport a few feet futher away XD

@frankbivona5924

Ай бұрын

@@kotlolish the last temple. you send blocks to the future and past. ive played it so many times. trust me. its confirmed. are you ai?

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

​@@frankbivona5924 What are you talking about? If you're talking about a puzzle in the Spirit Temple that only happens in the _Master Quest_ mode of Ocarina of Time which is only a *gameplay* change without meaning in regards to the Lore. It doesn't proove Link has the ability to send things across time.

The Fairy Ocarina is magical though!

@drwily

Ай бұрын

is it though??

The songs may actually hold more power than the ocarina!

I guess that the only magical property of the ocarina of time is to interact with things that have the logo of time, the only proof that i have is that playing the song of time with the fairy ocarina do not open the door of time... but to be 100% sure, we need to look at the game code to see if it is a checkbox for the song or a checkbox for the ocarina that allow the interactions...

Skull Kid didn't use any songs though. He just played a few random notes.

@drwily

Ай бұрын

yeah but he wasnt able to notice anything magical about it, while majora most likely does have knowledge on such things

@DukeSR8

29 күн бұрын

@@drwily 1 problem: How would Majora know about that? The ocarina doesn't give any visible hint of having any sort of powers. Not to mention any feats with the ocarina were accomplished well into the future that was (in the Child timeline anyway) averted by Link telling Zelda at the end of OoT, not mentioning that Termina is another world.

Just curious so you’re saying when he’s going back in time to when he was a kid to do some things and then back to an adult to do other parts of the story that’s not time travel?? he just can’t remove himself from the timeline like Zelda did

@kotlolish

Ай бұрын

You don't use the Ocarina of time for it. You use the Master Sword and the pedastal of time for that. 0 Songs used in that process.

@drwily

Ай бұрын

yeah like my editor says, song wasnt used, the sword is the key

i mean, in the original oot, if you use the fairy ocarina (by cheating), the door of time doesn't open if you play the Song of time, tho it does the animation and you get blocked so

@drwily

Ай бұрын

internal flag for the games progression, doesnt say much imo

Link "looses" the Fairy Ocarina when he gets the Ocarina of Time. Therefore, we do not know if it is the instrument or the player.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

Does he loose it though? I would assume he kept the ocarina in his person regardless of not having a use for it anymore considering its a memento from Saria right before he departed his home to begin his quest. Link wouldn't throw away something so special just like that simply because he now has a much "cooler" ocarina so i don't think that's what happens to the Fairy Ocarina.

@drwily

Ай бұрын

this

Review The Flight of Dragons 1982

@drwily

Ай бұрын

lmao whyyy

Hey Dr. Wily, it's an interesting idea you present here. I did an old video on the topic of instruments too, and came to a different conclusion though. kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKqHraSzoNHJiM4.html In my case, I determined that it is the notes of the songs themselves that are magical. Well, Magical is sort of not the right word here, it more like it is a part of laws of the world that are being activated by what Nayru created. Basically, when she created "the laws of the world" during creation, she put into place the framework for what we would call "magic". Sharp and Flat, the Sheikah Composer Brothers in Kakariko Graveyard, talk about the Ocarina of Time. They explain that they researched the Royal Family Bloodline and created the songs you learn through the game. I believe it wasn't so much "creating" the songs, but rather discovering how to use those laws put in place by Nayru. Ganondorf tortured them to death trying to get their secrets, specifically the Song of Time needed to access the Sacred Realm via the Temple of Time. Instruments do have magic in them, because not every Hylian has magic. These songs are more like magic spells that sound like music, and when they are performed by a person or an object imbued with magic, their effects activate. In short, they are providing the power source to the spell so it can do its effect. This is what is so special about the Ocarina of Time, it specifically has time power in it, and Time Power is needed to activate temporal "spells" or "effects". Zelda is indeed the Sage of Time and has Time Power in her, as does the Royal Family, and thus she could activate such "Temporal Songs" on her own. This may be why she sends Link back in time not with The Song of Time, but by using Zelda's Lullaby.

@drwily

Ай бұрын

Fair and yeah sharp and flats dialogue is a great argument i even forgot about, but still i am not sure if the actual instruments have any powers. But sadly enough you cant open the door of time with the fairy ocarina due to how flags work in the game and the fact that you get the oot immediatly.

I think the Ocarina of Time amplifies magic, not be magic

So it's sort of like a wand 👍

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

Like the Wind Waker baton which (ironically) also ressembles a wand.

@drwily

Ай бұрын

i guess

How about a video of the Evolution of Kat & Ana.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

The 2 ninja sisters from the WarioWare games? Why would Dr. Wily be interested in making a video about them?

@rubyensor3007

Ай бұрын

@@javiervasquez625 Yes.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

@@rubyensor3007 I see. I repeat though: Why would Dr. Wily be interested in making a video about them?

@rubyensor3007

Ай бұрын

​@@javiervasquez625 Because it would be a wonderful idea.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

@@rubyensor3007 Okay...

I said the title in tune lol

The Ocarina of Time isn't special because it's the only way to do magic. It's special because it's the key to the door of time, and by extension the realm of the GODS THEMSELVES. I could show you a box full of house keys and it wouldn't mean much, but if I then told you that one of them opens YOUR front door you'd suddenly be interested. That all of the other keys are just as good at opening bottles or closing electrical circuits as your house key is would be irrelevant. And if the distinction were based exclusively on your biases then your house key would also be the most important and most powerful key in the box. Like, your video isn't wrong, it's just not right either.

You can't open the door of time with the fairy Ocarina, meaning it's not Link, it's the ocarina.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

Then again Link doesn't know the Song of Time until after obtaining the Ocarina of Time meaning it's possible he could have had Zelda taught him the song while he still used the Fairy Ocarina.

@nworder4life

Ай бұрын

@@javiervasquez625 It's specifically stated that you need the 3 spiritual stones and the treasure of the royal family, the Ocarina of time to open the door. No reason to think the fairy Ocarina could do it, goes against what the game is telling you.

@javiervasquez625

Ай бұрын

@@nworder4life Then again we don't _know_ with certainty wether that's the case as the game never allows Link to play the Song of Time with the Fairy Ocarina to see what happens. The game could always have allowed us to learn the song at an earlier point in order to play it in the Temple of Time yet we're never allowed to thus leaving open the possibility that the Fairy Ocarina could have been enough to open the Gate of Time.

@drwily

Ай бұрын

this cant be done purely due to internal flags in the game and the fact that you get the oot before your able to open it

@nworder4life

29 күн бұрын

@@drwily Right, the story specifically tells you that Link needs the Ocarina of time to open the door and they make sure you can't do it otherwise. So what's the point of coming up with a theory that goes against the story narrative?

simply the ocarina is not the power, it's the songs :p

@drwily

Ай бұрын

exactly! and the user of course

Of course the ocarina of time is useless, have you seen randomizers??

Now that we finally got rid of one of the biggest liars on the internet, everyone's scrambling to take up his place. You know how we know that the Ocarina has no power? Because of all these other unpowered instruments doing magic. No, my friend, that is the begging the question fallacy. And not the "this raises a question" way most people misuse it either, you're literally assuming the conclusion. Occam's razor says it's much simpler that all those magic artifacts _do_ have magic in them. Why wouldn't they? You're like that guy who wrote in to Archie Sonic comics to explain how Sonic wasn't actually running, no he was rotating his feet really fast to generate energy, and using that to hover an angstrom above ground and propel himself forward... somehow. At least _that_ guy preceded MatPat...