The footage of some propeller seaplanes was a bit confusing 🤔

Hmmm ... I wish they had kept one for a museum.

@pauld6967

2 жыл бұрын

Several years ago I saw what little remains at the Smithsonian's Paul E. Garber Facility. I completely agree with you that one should have been fully preserved.

@SalisburySnake

2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame we didn't keep at least one of every plane. There's a lot of great ones that went extinct.

@uberduberdave

2 жыл бұрын

The Navy used to have a bad habit of not preserving historic aircraft. As kid in the 1960s my dad took me to see the Norfork Naval Air Station where the famous "Truculant Turtle P2V was on display and a captured WWII "Emily" Japanese sea plane was being preserved. I later learned the base commander wanted them both scrapped. Today, the Turtle is at the Naval Air Museum in Pensacola and the Emily is on display in Japan. Too bad no one intervened for the P6M.

@pauld6967

2 жыл бұрын

@@uberduberdave I don't recall if I saw _'Truculant Turtle'_ at Pensacola but I have certainly heard of it. Perhaps the move took place after I visited the base. Anyway, thanks for giving me another reason to visit Japan. :-) I hope you and all others reading this have a happy Fourth of July. 🇺🇸

@seantaggart7382

2 жыл бұрын

@@uberduberdave im saying People please Historians want to know

Maybe not the best nuclear bombers but I'm in love with flying boats! Aviation without being imprisoned by landing gear and runways unleashes it's full potential

@sheilaolfieway1885

2 жыл бұрын

almost like the predecessor of the PBY Catalina.

Another plane I've never heard of, thanks for sharing this. You should make a video about the PBY Catalina, an amazing sea plane.

@yogibearthebear6774

2 жыл бұрын

Arguably the most successful seaplane too

"Nuclear Bombers don´t surf." Colonel Kilgore, drunk.

@jayhawkjd8565

2 жыл бұрын

That's hilarious! Top notch 😎

@andrewdoesyt7787

2 жыл бұрын

Did it surf, or did it just go on water?

@ramal5708

2 жыл бұрын

It's like flying fish or dolphin just fly for short moment then surface again

@lorenzocerri3129

2 жыл бұрын

It's a nuclear poser

I live in Baltimore and it has always had it's endless locations created and used by the military. The old bases and camps are exciting to tour anytime.

Looks like an ekranoplan with proper wings.

@AD-zg7fw

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to say that. Kaspian Sea Monster was its codename at Langley after it was discovered by the first spy satellite. That satellite was named Corona. Notice how Russia called their vaccine Sputnik V? Weird huh? Edit: reminds me of Saturn V

@jonforris

2 жыл бұрын

@@AD-zg7fw Yes, the sea monster v the sea master.

@AD-zg7fw

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonforris does this mean the Russians were stealing from 1950s defense contractors? Or was this normal parallel research? I believe the year was about 1960 of the Americans discovering the experimental craft of the CCCP. They also cloned the Shuttle Program with the Buran. They obviously did corporate espionage in the 70s and 80s, perhaps even in the 1950s...

@redsun9261

2 жыл бұрын

​@@AD-zg7fw What do you mean by that? Seamaster is NOT an Ekranoplan, its a jet flying boat. Sea Monster is a different type of vehicle, purposely built to ride on air pressure between a surface and wings. Its not a plane either. If yore looking for the same kind of plane in USSR, see beriev Be-10.

@ronjohnson2794

2 жыл бұрын

Just said the same thing

I want to see the catamaran built from wingtip floats. That sounds awesome.

@fighterjetsensei

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, the floats that were turned into a catamaran are in storage and currently unavailable for viewing by the public. Source: I work for the museum mentioned in the video.

@SalisburySnake

2 жыл бұрын

@@fighterjetsensei Well at least they belong to a museum. It wasn't clear in the video. Maybe someday they'll be on display.

@fighterjetsensei

2 жыл бұрын

@@SalisburySnake Eventually. main reason they're not is a lack of room. The Glenn L Martin Museum is 2 office spaces underneath hangar 5 at Martin State Airport, and all of our aircraft that are on display are on the Strawberry Point section of the airport next to multiple privately rented hangars and the Maryland State Police Aviation hangar.

@thudthud5423

2 жыл бұрын

A boat built from airplane parts. Awesome.

@waderedekopp4785

2 жыл бұрын

@@fighterjetsensei any pictures or a link? Couldn't find anything on Google...cheers!

Such a beautiful bird. I tried to find a model of it, then tried making one from pictures as a kid. My skills as a preteen we're not up to the task.

@alepepperoni2563

2 жыл бұрын

Lol nice

@musewolfman

2 жыл бұрын

If you're still interested in doing that, it looks like Revell released a kit in the mid-1990s. It seems to be selling for $30-35 online.

@MothaLuva

2 жыл бұрын

@@musewolfman It’s a remake of a vintage one from the 1960. The scale is 1/box. I have a vacu one in 1/72.

@mikearakelian6368

Жыл бұрын

Revell made one....98cents at the time.i made one along with the red snark missile

@KManXPressTheU

Жыл бұрын

Revell Put out an Off Scale Kit, Which is Still Available; Mach 2 Has A Kit in 1/72 Scale, But Their Kits are very Rough; Anigrand has A Resin Kit in 1/72, But is Very Expensive.

Always love learning what's out there. And what happened in the early days. Impressive.

The most graceful, beautiful heavy EVER.

They should try that with the A10, engines are up high already:) “A swarm of A10s came out of the ocean!!”

@792slayer

2 жыл бұрын

And nobody was safe ever again.

@eatcommies1375

2 жыл бұрын

@@792slayer Peace through strength…

@792slayer

2 жыл бұрын

@@eatcommies1375 Peace through superior firepower.

@peekaboopeekaboo1165

2 жыл бұрын

Large RCS

Amazing footage.. thanks!

Your videos are now my addiction. I LOVE learning about all the planes that I saw as a kid in a book. This is amazing! Thank you

@paulgeorge7557

2 жыл бұрын

I also love this shit

@MrUNCLESAM84

2 жыл бұрын

Videos are awesome but the narrator sucks, I don't know what kind of psychological malfunction that he has to talk that quick?! That's why I keep giving them a thumbs down everytime they upload a video.

@blacksheep25251

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrUNCLESAM84 Odd... he's the only narrator that I've not had to speed up. Normally, I'm at 1.25 or 1.5 speed..

@harrelsonyee4467

2 жыл бұрын

I'm used to the narrator speed and ngl I kinda enjoy it

Neat. I love your videos - thanks for taking the time to make and share them!

One of my favorites. Its so cool!!

Thanks for this 👍✈️

As a kid I remember seeing and hearing the Seamaster. My dad worked at Glen L. Marting in Middle River. I have many pictures of the Seamaster and built the kit years ago. I am now 77 and buiding another model of the Seamaster that was reissued under the Atlantis Model Company.

I'm digging these sea planes. Let's see more!

I love your videos, I really don't comment much here because you do an immaculate job, clean and concise. The music was a tad much this time at about the 1/2 mark. Your voice and style are all that's needed.

VERY interesting! I have never heard of this effort. Upon first observation of the craft, I was reminded of the akronoplan design but realized this was a flying boat.

Another airplane I knew vey little about. Thanks for the great video.

So much aviation innovation was cancelled because it wasn't necessary in a world with ICBMs... Then again, ICBMs got us into space...

@Joshua_N-A

2 жыл бұрын

But standing military still exists even after they made a lot them. I thought ICBM rendered infantry, fighters and ships obsolete because who wants to send paratroopers or conduct an amphibious assault when ICBM could replace all of that? Then drones already came into scene and vow to replace everything maybe ICBMs will be fully controlled by AI.

@bettyschneider5268

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joshua_N-A be careful what u wish for! AI 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🛩🛬🛫🛬🛫🛬🛫🛬🛫

Amazing, very interesting, thank you.

Maybe the best looking flying boat ever

Thanks

Good show dude!

Great concept-love seaplanes

Thank you for reporting.

I like these mini-documentaries, but someone REALLY needs to step up their proofreading game.

@steveh1792

2 жыл бұрын

Talk about the Seamaster, show clips of twin-piston engined seaplane...

@peekaboopeekaboo1165

2 жыл бұрын

"informative" but not always accurate or correct information.

@maninifarmer1338

2 жыл бұрын

Why inject irrelevant P5M film into this?

@Bochi42

2 жыл бұрын

And drop the super serious urgent rapid fire way of speaking.

Fascinating aircraft

Those aircraft are so badass

Great idea

Always a fan of the background music.

An advanced technology bomber designed and built in Baltimore. Can you imagine that happening today? I can't.

Must have been a hell of an interesting company to work for, such advanced ideas and the bravado to pursue some out of the box thinking. Great story, well told

Informative. Beautiful isn't always the best.

Cool looking aircraft

Big like! Undestructible runways... What a thoughtfulness! Destroying an airport's runways makes all the aircrafts sitting ducks!

Wow, I had no idea the jet-powered, four-engine SeaMaster repeatedly could "morph" into a propeller-driven, two-engine seaplane (a Martin P5M?) LIKE MAGIC!!! [Nb. Unless, of course, that was the usual "Dark Skies" approach, e.g., we don't give a damn if the photos have nothing to do with the content?]

This and the Sea Dart are two aircraft on my _'Should've been put into full-scale production/use and preserved in museums'_ list. It is a little eyebrow raising when you include film of the Mariner when the Sea Master is the focus. It is obvious that they are two different aircraft.

@musewolfman

2 жыл бұрын

There may not have been enough footage of the P6M available to fill the video without repeating too many times.

@pauld6967

2 жыл бұрын

@@musewolfman I can understand that but would it have killed him to include "...in the same manner as the Martin Mariner..." while the Mariner was on screen? It is also possible that the script is written and recorded before they went looking for the imagery to accompany it and only later realized "oops, we can't find footage that matches." It is a minor thing and it has happened a lot of times in Hollywood films. It is just a pet peeve of mine, like when they're talking about B-17 Flying Fortresses and then show a formation of B-24 Liberators. In that case, it is simply laziness because there is ample footage of B-17 formations in flight. Anyway it's 2 minutes past Midnight which means it is now Saturday and officially the weekend. So hurray!

Very cool

amazing

Waiting for the dark seas episode on that catamaran

Makes the Ekranoolan seem a little less crazy. Speaking of crazy, I still find the concept of aircraft powered by nuclear engines terrifying

This has always been my favorite plane ever

Flying experimental aircraft was a dangerous game.

The last time I saw plumes of exhaust like that it was from a VW

I’ve always considered that seaplane nuclear weapon delivery system as a smart project for its time. It’s deployment and mobile basing were a plus when considering countering an atomic first strike by the Soviets back during the Cold War. Also the aircraft looked very sleek and powerful considering its really just a floatplane. They also were simultaneously developing a tactical seaplane fighter aircraft, the Martin F2Y Sea Dart to complement it’s “sister” P6M floatplane strike bomber but I understand it was also plagued with technical problems.

Now you have to do a video on the SeaMaster's escort- the Convair F2Y Sea Dart!

@andrewlaco1776

2 жыл бұрын

Only supersonic seaplane I believe.

I love it!

As with all of your videos, this one is excellent. Thank you!

This was such a neat plane.

Very Good!..

dam that looked nice

I always thought that the seaplane technology was cool. Too bad they are almost gone.

One of my requests!

It can still come back!

should make a video on the JRM mars flying boats, great history and some are still functional today!

@The67wheelman

2 жыл бұрын

Used by a Canadian forest fire fighting company on Vancouver Island based in lake Cowichan

@johncurtis2734

2 жыл бұрын

@@The67wheelman Sproat Lake actually, currently not used (haven't been since around 2015 if I recall correctly) and owned by Coulson Group.

@The67wheelman

2 жыл бұрын

@@johncurtis2734 knew someone would know more than I, sad our govt never see’s it as a national fire defence tool and never subsidized it. Same old same old

@johncurtis2734

2 жыл бұрын

@@The67wheelman It really is. I'm currently at our place on Sproat looking out directly at the water bomber base, and I work for the BC Gov so I see firsthand how difficult it is to get them in the air. Really a travesty.

@The67wheelman

2 жыл бұрын

@@johncurtis2734 we really could have used it on the fort Mac fire but Notley in her wisdom declined 🙄

This would have been a great forest fire fighting aircraft.

@YourLordMobius

2 жыл бұрын

Holy smokes that's a really great point

@einautofan6685

2 жыл бұрын

There are the russian Beriev Seaplanes, too!😉 Some with Turboprop, some with Jet turbines...

I just found out about this. Amazing. Wow.

Beautiful plane. Wish they kept one.

How many different piston engine powered sea planes are you going to show while talking about the jet powered P6M1? Just curious.

What a shame no prototype was preserved for history

Little known fact about the P6M, Adm Rickover was known to hate the P6M and believed that the Navy had no business having a nuclear capable bomber, surprisingly he had asked to see a demonstration of the plane and it was hoped that after he saw what the plane was capable of, he would give his support and approval of the program, instead he pulled up to the plane,looked at it then drove off, never getting out of his car. Sad to see what could have been.

I love the intense beginning music.

I'm surprised they don't use sea planes more often nowadays....

@user-cl4kc4st7z

2 жыл бұрын

You know, that seaplanes have not only advantages, but also disadvantages. 🤷🤷🤷

@Orphican

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-cl4kc4st7z Depends on how you plan to employ them.

@antr7493

2 жыл бұрын

we have tomahawk missiles and stealth bombers. They use to have float planes off of navy vessels. Now we have helicopters.

@user-cl4kc4st7z

2 жыл бұрын

@Frank Dux if you really need something - you will find ways to get it. Nazi trisks to get petrol proofed that. The more important things: it's not so reliable (hurricane or another bad weather transform your cool (and expensive) seaplane into big piece of metal+another materials, that need protection). Another big issue: it's water-oriented (it's really good, if around 71% percents of globe is your airfield, but don't forget about disadvantages: I doubt that water landing didn't influenced it's behaviour in the sky (at least: less speed, higher fuel consumption).

@user-cl4kc4st7z

2 жыл бұрын

@Frank Dux I can see 2 main field to operate it: Airstrikes of some coastal areas (if you don't have enough suitable airfields nearby (with wide network of military bases around the world it's rare situation, but if that happens - American army is in troubles because without enough close air support war would be more long and more infantry and marines would pay with their lives for it: I don't rely much on russian sources of information, but Олег Капцов once told about problems with close fire support at the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beqaa_Valley Situation was solved by 406 mm main guns of battleship, that stayed nearby, but if enemy wasn't in range of naval guns...)

Some Canadian Army CH-47 Chinook Helicopter were painted the same scheme as the Sea master for a couple of years, i know so my cousin was a pilot. His best advice when piloting a Chinook -'' trust your rear end''

Why are piston engined seaplanes repeatedly interspersed in this report?

@Neilistic1001

2 жыл бұрын

See my post above. [Dark Skies don't care what it uses for "photo filler." And most "fans" of DS are too ignorant to know the difference. In this instance, you should consider yourself lucky that the "other plane" was a twin-engine Martin seaplane, rather than than something like a Loening OL.

@gjantonio

2 жыл бұрын

@@Neilistic1001 not exactly, in their channel description it says that they might not have enough videos / immages of the topic craft, so they use film of similar craft to fill in some of the gaps.

@steveh1792

2 жыл бұрын

@@gjantonio It's a solution, of sorts. Just not a very good one.

The us in 1950: “bombers don’t surf and we think they should.

After seeing that imagine a B 52 flying boat

@SalisburySnake

2 жыл бұрын

Several flying boats had a greater wingspan then the B-52. The Spruce Goose is almost double. (320ft vs 185ft)

@JFrazer4303

2 жыл бұрын

There were studies of a seaplane version of the Boeing model 377 (liner derived from the xc-99 military transport, derived from the B-36). The b36 leading edge inlets for the engine cooling were on top of the leading edges, and the horizontal tail moved up a bit. There were studies and flying models of a seaplane C-130, both with stepped boat hull and with big flat skis. See also the YC-134E by Chase/Stroukhoff: a C-123 upgraded with boundary layer control for STOL and un-stepped slightly stronger hull and skis that let it operate from runways or any flat unimproved ground, water, snow/ice, sand, swamp etc.

Anybody else just watch the nuclear aircraft carrier?

It was an interesting concept, if flawed.

Have you ever done a video on the p2 Neptune or Aj savage?

I suspect this would have been an aircraft that became quickly obsolete even if it had made it into service but it's a very elegant looking aircraft, and very sad to hear none survive, especially given it was the last aircraft developed by Martin.

They should build a C141 seaplane for fast beach assaults. It would be dammed hard to know where they'd land troops until the plane touches water. Would need a 20mm Vulcan turret to strafe the treeline as it comes in.

still has valid application in rough concept

This would be a great coastline transport

For how scary seaplane strike forces are, see the '50s design by Myasischev M-70 supersonic dash seaplane bomber. Seaplane striking forces are dangerous for the defenders and make an attacker's job easier. For every big CVN you can build a dozen LPDs and kits for turning merchant ships into seaplane tenders, and any open water spot can become a temporary airbase with CAP and penetration escort fighters and ASW, AEW and logistics planes supporting a strike. Spot 60 planes and take all of them off at once.

I really wish you credited the music. it was nice, this one.

Kinda looks like and reminds me of a MUCH smaller Soviet Ekranoplan, but being able to fly WAY higher and VERY MUCH faster!

If it was a swept wing then it surely looks like a B1 Lancer taking a surf

Totally amazing aircraft. Deserved to have one prototype survive. Has anyone noticed that the narrator sounds like Chakotay from Start Trek Voyager.

Looks like a “watered down” Victor

@jackfinlayson9161

2 жыл бұрын

With a B52 nose lol

The knowledge of seaplane limitations have been known since day one.

Would be nice display mate for the sea drart in SD

Nice design. Could have had a use as a fire bomber like the Be200 maybe?

I had no idea of this one! Roo bad it was scrapped!

Incredibile fantastic jet 👽👽👽

Or a behind the scenes special

This concept can be use by some modern navies especially those who has aircraft carriers.... they can use these aircraft's as AWAC's or Aerial refueler or Maritime patrol or Submarine Hunting.... and they should modify them like that can Refueled and maintained by a normal fleet support vessels

Such a beautiful airframe. Its a shame that the materials and technology of the day hindered its development.

Couldn't quite understand why some of the footage switched from jet to prop driven. Was this an early prototype produced prior to the jet version.?

WOW

It seems like the reason so many planes that never were was because the planned engines weren't available so less than ideal engines are substituted.

@charlestaylor253

2 жыл бұрын

That's unfortunately true. It's actually far easier to design a superlative airframe than a suitably powerful and reliable engine to power it...😞

Such a nice plane to florestal fire combat with some adaptations

Amazing! Thanks for sharing this, hadn't come across this before..

Exceptional machine. Never should have been scraped. With todays tech these things could erase carrier groups. We could also have airport free travel for all coastal cities.

I wish there was more history. My Uncle Bob was the pilot of #2 when it had it's issues.

where did you guys find the black prophecy soundtrack? i've been looking for it for years