My Uncle flew Banshees in combat over North Korea. His squadron flew top cover for the missions that were basis of the movie "The Bridges at Toko Ri." The bridges were actually at the villages of Majon-ni and Samdong-ni. Michener, whose book was the inspiration for the movie, said he made up the name Toko Ri to simplify the story. In the movie, Banshees are shown attacking the bridges. The bridges were actually attacked by prop driven AD-4 Skyraiders, while the Banshees flew top cover.

@rdjhardy

2 жыл бұрын

The film used F9F Panthers.

When I was a kid in the 1960s there was one of these sitting on its belly in the sand in a city park in Vero Beach, Florida. The engines and most of the cockpit were removed and us small kids could climb in through the tailpipes into the empty belly and out through the side inlets. The nose was stripped out as well and I remember many of us kids playing games in it. Today, everyone would probably have fits having kids climbing though old aircraft full of sharp metal but those were different times. I still remember the smell of hot metal and jet fuel on a summer day inside that thing...

@michaelsherck5099

2 жыл бұрын

We had an F86 Sabre in our park. *sigh* More fun than a small boy is now allowed to have..

@scootergeorge9576

2 жыл бұрын

There was on in "Airport Park" in Hayward CA. in the early sixties. The park was later renamed after JFK.

@alimtimm7355

2 жыл бұрын

Really? It looks like you would have to be an infant or cat to fit inside those engines

@thomashowlett8295

2 жыл бұрын

@@alimtimm7355 He stated that the engines had been removed. That opens up a lot of space inside the fuselage.

@texasbeast239

2 жыл бұрын

@@alimtimm7355 - The vid called them 19-inch engines, which was probably the turbine blade or exhaust nozzle outlet diameter. But there is still a lot of engine structure outside of those components, as well as airframe hardware for mounting the engines inside. And stripped gate guard planes do be STRIPPED inside.

F-105 Thunderchief. That plane is fascinating and HUGE.

@badlaamaurukehu

2 жыл бұрын

The Thud

@scootergeorge9576

2 жыл бұрын

What is the relevance to the F-105 and this video? It was built by Republic, not McDonnell, was USAF and not Navy/Marine, fought over Vietnam and not Korea.

@eliasgordon4321

2 жыл бұрын

They kept those clean with thope thuds.

@pauljohnson3340

2 жыл бұрын

@@scootergeorge9576 he asked at the end of the video to suggest other aircraft. I followed through with said suggestion.

@thunderchief885

2 жыл бұрын

Yes please do the Thunderchief

I like the looks of the F2H. It and the early panthers, with their straight wings, were the last of the straight wing jets, and so they have a nice mystique to them. They just couldn't escape the pace of technology, but are beautiful planes nonetheless.

@WAL_DC-6B

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the straight winged Republic USAF F-84 and US Navy/Marines Douglas F3D Skyknight also used in the Korean War.

@kgs42

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, good looking plane.

@WVWolfy

2 жыл бұрын

The disrespect being shown to the mighty, straight winged A-10… I just can’t even…

@xmeda

2 жыл бұрын

Aero L-29: hold my beer

@nomar5spaulding

2 жыл бұрын

F9F Panther is the best looking fighter of the early cold war.

Other than its obsolete straight wing design thats has been discusses already at great length you must appreciate the cockpit layout and boosted controls. This was leaps ahead of WW2 fighters and is still relatively modern looking . All from a jet fighter conceived in the mid to late 1940s , very impressive.

The opening comment that the Banshee was the "only" aircraft to serve the Navy and Marine Corps in Korea is incorrect. What about the Grumman F9F Panther. It was operated by both services, had air-to-air victories and had a photo version in later models.

@5sapaches25

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@gort8203

2 жыл бұрын

Gross inaccuracy is par for the course at Dark Skies.

@MrKentaroMotoPI

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@jamesphilip6737

2 жыл бұрын

If the fellow can't research properly, he should stop doing this or rename it Wikipedia Skies

@richardadams4928

2 жыл бұрын

@@gort8203 I found this particular error inexplicable, it's SO obviously incorrect. It kind of reminds me of the multiple times in other videos where they reference WWII piston engined fighters as "jets". 😬😬😬

The F2H was not the only jet deployed by the USN/USMC during the Korean war. The most numerous Navy jet during that period was the F9F Panther. The F3D I believe also saw Korean War service. The only 4-MiG-15-kills-in-one-engagement in the Korean War was scored by Lt Royce Williams in an F9F-5.

I love listening to these while I work.

@paulgeorge7557

2 жыл бұрын

No work just listen

@Timetonut

2 жыл бұрын

Such a peaceful voice.

Banshee "kneeling" feature (For storage on ship while underway) is demonstrated towards the end of the vid at 7:22 with the shot of the Banshee with it's nose on the pavement. (There were small wheels installed for that purpose). La-15. shown at 0:22 mark.

@ricac.h8717

2 жыл бұрын

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@whammy5142

2 жыл бұрын

I’m actually sad that I knew that. Also have a great day

@badlaamaurukehu

2 жыл бұрын

👌

@daveb.4268

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I thought the one they showed had a calapsed nose wheel on landing.

@dx1450

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, I thought the nose gear had collapsed or something.

Aldine Patton and Phil Coleman both flew the F2H. Phil did so in service test inspection and evaluation, and Aldine in Marine service. During his 3 years 3 months 27 days aboard the Ticonderoga, my uncle heard the pilots praise it as their favorite. F2H2s could in Korea carry havars and two500lb bombs to a target over 700 miles from a launching carrier. That was the longest strike radius of a standard fighter of the time. In Korea the FJ Fury ,F9F Panther and Cougar saw naval/marine use also. The F6U Pirate even got a tiny bit of use. I have never heard anyone that flew the Banshee fail to like it.

I grew up in Halifax Nova Scotia. Well I remember how impressed I was by a fly over of "the Grey Ghosts" they broke the sound barrier at safe distance out at sea , flew over twice in silence, and then the thunder of their engines followed them. I was in awe.

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

Cool

@stevek8829

2 жыл бұрын

It's been fifty years since I've heard that. You can't see them coming, can't hear them till the double boom, then you hear them coming after they're gone! Only radar can help defend against that, eyes won't do it.

Spoke to a former fighter pilot once who flew this. He praised it immensly for its handling and flight characteristics.

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

It was fairly conventional in design. That is why it was not a hot ship in the air-to-air arena.

Both the F9F Panther and the Douglas F3D Skyknight were also used by the USN and USMC during Korea.

Another excellent review. Keep up the great work.

Still my favorite channel and this is why. The Banshee did go on, in several variants, but the story of its origins must be told. Thanks dark skies!!

@sidefx996

2 жыл бұрын

Favorite channel? The mistakes and inaccuracies are unforgiveable. Try watching Mark Felton.

@fleafrier1

2 жыл бұрын

@@sidefx996 I do from time to time but he speaks too slowly

@sidefx996

2 жыл бұрын

@@fleafrier1 Really? Never noticed. Mark Felton is an encyclopedia of history. This channel is often unwatchable because of all the blatant historical inaccuracies. It's like he makes videos straight off wikipedia and has zero actual knowledge about the subject.

@fleafrier1

2 жыл бұрын

@@sidefx996 Fair enough assessment. I put up with it because I enjoy the delivery and he covers some really obscure aircraft. If I want to find out more about any of them I can search other channels.

I very much enjoy your video format and information. Thank you.

Love the banshee. We need an F3D Skyknight episode.

Great work Sir thank you

Ted Williams, USMC and John Glenn's wingman in Korea, both flew F9F Panthers... Glenn later flew F-86's on USAF exchange duty. Panthers flew both USMC and US Navy missions.

The USN/USMC Panther flew combat missions in Korea. That was the aircraft Ted Williams flew in combat

@ironroad18

2 жыл бұрын

Dark Skies consistently gets thing wrong, yet they have all these views. F9F was the backbone of the Navy and Marine effort operating from Pusan.

@daveb.4268

2 жыл бұрын

Also John Glenn.

@dmutant2635

2 жыл бұрын

@@daveb.4268 Glenn got his kills in a Sabre, I think...

@daveb.4268

2 жыл бұрын

I think your right, He had Mig Mad Marine on the side.

@dmutant2635

2 жыл бұрын

@@daveb.4268 and that was a nice paint job too!

All docs are pretty interessant, I learn a lot of details and discover unknow subjects. Bravo, keep continue.....

Banshee is my thing! Thanks for this vid!

Cool history thanks for sharing

Any chance of getting a piece on the Douglas F4D Skyray? I always thought that was a neat-looking fighter, though I doubt they ever saw much if any action.

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

Great choice. The only Navy aircraft to serve NORAD... excellent climb rate. Aim High

Great video!

Thanks from Texas Dark dude.

As a Canadian and an Air Force brat in the 50s and 60s, I can say with certainty that "fiscal wrangling and political disagreements" were foregone conclusions. To this day, our military procurement processes are dismal, being fraught with inefficiency and incompetent political interference. It's a wonder our military has any equipment at all.

@HairyTrigger

2 жыл бұрын

The Army still uses Browning Hi-Power pistols from WW2 because replacing them always turns into political interference of the highest degree. Anytime the pistol replacement program comes up we have politicians calling people war mongers for wanting to replace firearms that are 77yrs old.

@lib556

2 жыл бұрын

@@HairyTrigger A bit of a red herring. In terms of procurement, there's no comparison between a few thousand handguns and multi-million dollar aircraft. The BHP was and is still a good pistol that serves its purpose - a back up. Specialists who use a pistol as a primary weapon long ago were issued some variant of Sig Sauer. MPs, pilots and Naval boarding pty have been carrying Sigs since the 90s. Sure the BHPs are old but many 1911s that Americans refuse to let go of are older. The UK only recently transitioned to Glocks. Hell, the much vaunted SAS were still using BHPs into the 90s. Australia is only just looking into replacing theirs. So we're not all that bad. Having recently retired from the infantry after 35 yrs, I can say that the BHP served us well enough. I carried one on 2 deployments in Afghanistan as a backup - its intended purpose. The C7/C8 or C9 is an infantryman's principal arm. That's what really matters. I hate a friend who deployed with HUMINT. They gave him a Sig P226 as it was deemed more likely that he'd have to employ it than a rifle. Hell, before Afghanistan, soldiers would rarely get to see a BHP. My last few years in uniform I always shot perfect on the pistol PWT using various BHPs. The problem, as I understand it, is that Canada wants the licensing rights so they can be made here by Colt Canada (formerly Diemaco) - a competitor in the highly competitive small arms business. This has been a stumbling block. Also, Glock (having recently lost out on the extremely lucrative US military contract to Sig) are complaining that the specs being demanded are pushing them out of competition. Regardless. Compared with ships and fighters, it's nothing.

Great video. It might be interesting to hear the stories of two very iconic cold war COMBLOCK fighters; the Mig 15 and the Mig 21.

@bubiruski8067

2 жыл бұрын

Very true ! The first ones that were of modern aerodynamic.

Just a pretty, pretty airplane. I also really like the F9F and F-80. Something about the early jets, just like the late WWll piston fighters....Sexy!!

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

I hear that.

Again Great! The Banshee was a beautiful machine! technology (swept wing) is great however not when it comes to high altitude at the time. Thanks!

@davegeisler7802

2 жыл бұрын

True ! That wing of the Banshee was perfect for very high alitutude photo recon 👍

Odd and underwhelming though it is I actually really like the Banshee's design. Got two suggestions for you Dark that I'd love to see you cover, the ever classic F-14 Tomcat, and one of the weirdest looking bombers ever the Handley Page Victor. Keep the awesome content coming!

so a "plain jane" got the job done and no one noticed surprise surprise, I always liked the bumper sticker that said I may be slow but I'm ahead of you. I recall a PBS show about bumper sticker nation this reminded me of this classic.

The opening sentence in this video is embarrassingly incorrect: the famous Panther jet was also operated by the Navy and Marines during the Korean war. Also, I would argue the title is incorrect since the Banshee was actually a very fast jet for its era and its speed and ability to operate at high altitudes with a pressurized cockpit made it well suited to photo recon missions where it excelled, with many Banshees having specialized long noses filled with camera systems.

I built the HAWK model kit when I was a kid. I learned about the Canadians using the Banshee from Polyus Studios.

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

Cool. I remember the Hawk models from the 60s

Here in Brazil, our air force had in its collection of trainer aircraft for pilots adapting propeller to jet that would fly the F-5 and Mirage III the Ministry of Aeronautics purchased the license to manufacture an aircraft from an Italian company called Aermacchi MB -326 which was very similar to this model that served from the 70s until mid-2012. here the name of the trainer was EMB-326 Xavante.

Wingroot jet engine aircraft are so elegant looking. I can't help but be a fan regardless of performance.

I can't help it, but look at it as a jet powered P-51Mustang.

@Musushu

2 жыл бұрын

Wait until you see the FJ-1 Fury 😉

@Stk3r

2 жыл бұрын

Well it was just a decade since ww2 ended, so most swept wing designs were still in works and aren't available for the UN

@tndrtacoz1176

2 жыл бұрын

how about the P-59 or the F-80

It and the Panther are still good looking Aircraft , nice wee Vid as always .

@oldsmobileman1403

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, I love your stocking clad female photo!

@burningb2439

2 жыл бұрын

@@oldsmobileman1403 That's the one an only Bettie Page .

@oldsmobileman1403

2 жыл бұрын

@@burningb2439 Oh my, legendary! My sight is terrible, couldn't see too well, all I saw was her beautiful legs, haha!

It would be nice to see a comparison between this and the Lockheed "shooting star". I know the shooting star had at least 1 air to air kill during the Korean War.

when we lived in chula vista in the early 1950s, i used to watch squadrons of these flying over. as a little kid i thought it was awsum!!

I'd love to hear about the Fairchild C-119 boxcar. My father flew it during the Korean conflict. They delivered Thanksgiving turkeys to the troops on thanksgiving day. It was a great twin-boom aircraft.

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

That is awesome!

@spaceman081447

11 ай бұрын

It's my understanding that the C-119 was also used by paratroopers during the '50s.

@ernieernie9496

11 ай бұрын

@@spaceman081447 Absolutely was and was a medical transport and much more.

Blackburn Buccaneer... Gorgeous AF, please, please, please!🤞

Please finish discussing the rest of the Century Series fighters. You've already done the F-100 Super Saber and I think you touched on the F-101 in your F-88 vid. But let's follow up with: F-100 Super Saber F-101 Voodoo F-102 Delta Dagger *F-103 Thunderwarrior* F-104 Starfighter *F-105 Thunderchief* F-106 Delta Dart F-107 Super Super Saber/Ultra Saber *F-108 Rapier* (delta wing A-5 Vigilante) *F-109* (Starfighter with wingtip VTOL tiltjets) F-110 Phantom II F-111 Aardvark ??? F-117 Nighthawk ???

@Troubleshooter125

2 жыл бұрын

Seconded on ALL counts ... and add to that, the F-86 Sabre, which was the definitive fighter aircraft of the Korean War!

I do love thee videos where you include the aircafts Canadian use as well. Our Airforce has used many United States made Aircraft

Grate video

F-85 would be interesting. They used to assemble them where I work. Would love to learn more about it

The Banshee was the aircraft featured in James Michener's book Bridges of Toki-Ri. But by the time that the movie was made, the Banshee was out of service, and the Panther was used, instead.

@jagdpanther2224

2 жыл бұрын

A sad movie 🎥

@philipr.6090

2 жыл бұрын

@@jagdpanther2224 Yep -- the ending was tough.

@drewnogy

2 жыл бұрын

@@philipr.6090 Still hard to watch today.

That's fantastic jet

this jet is sooo cool.

Please do a video on the F9H Cougar… my favorite jet of this era

It was probably the best-looking of the early jets, so there's that win at least.

When I was a kid growing up in Casa Grande Arizona in the 60's they placed one of these things in a park. We'd play on it.

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

Wow. I'll bet that was a blast. Web had an F-84F at our tiny airport, it was fun to play on c. 1970.

Nice seeing a NAS Glenview (Glenview, IL) Banshee at 3:50 with the "V" on its tail.

F3H-1 Demon

id like to see the f104 . its one of my favorite Century airplane for it's performance and looks, and it was used by many countries, with lot of losses due to accidents especially during landing procedures i think it would make a great subject for one of your videos

Are we not forgetting the Grumman Panther?

The Banshee at 08:43 with the "GLEN VIEW" under the wing was based at the old Glen View Naval Air Station just north of Chicago. The base closed in 1995, and all that remains is the control tower - now part of a shopping mall.

@WAL_DC-6B

2 жыл бұрын

Slight correction as it's one word, Glenview. The chapel, golf course, and a hanger (other than "Hanger One" with the control tower) still remain.

@KRW628

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

This era of jet fighters made for such interesting birds.

I love pretending to work while I listen to these.

@wildweasel2160

2 жыл бұрын

same man, same

It was not the only Navy/Marine jet deployed in the Korean War. Don't forget the F9F Panther was much more significant. Shocked at this mistake. Your research is usually very good.

Thanks dark Skies , ok how do you make the materials for F1.11

This is a cool looking plane

THANX, this was great. I haven't looked but, have you done a video on the A-6 Intruder and/or the EA-6B Prowler? I grew up near Whidbey Island, WA and was a US Naval Sea cadet as a teen and ofcourse loved the book and movie Flight of the Intruder. THANX again.

@99bimmer

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha. I did the Sea Cadets in Brunswick, ME and did a "boot camp" in Newport, RJ. I wound up quitting when I was 15 though

@acelargent9507

2 жыл бұрын

@@99bimmer lol I didn't like getting seasick and went USAF at 17!

@99bimmer

2 жыл бұрын

@@acelargent9507 I went Army. Wish I would've done it differently

Hi could you do a video on the F7F tigercat and F8F bearcat?

would make an excellent personal transport for the personal public aviation sector...

The rolling "mig" in the intro is actually a La 15 (The high mounted wing is the tell)

Do the F302! I wanna know more about the naquadria hyper space generator and aero spike engines.

MiG 15 hard to believe it did so well.

My next model aircraft Im building.

The Canadian navy lost 30% of their Banshees to accidents? They shoulda put snow tires on them then eh😁

@spooderdoggy

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 Yes those Canadians should know better! Forget the all seasons tires.👌🏻

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

What was up with that anyhow..., Might have the Westinghouse engines. Poor performers typically.

@westwindsailer

2 жыл бұрын

I survived 20 winters through the 80s,90s, and intothe 2000s with all seasons and rear wheel drive ...we had no choice . nowadays it AWD weenies and winter tires with studs...wtf .

@scottmccambley764

Жыл бұрын

Canadian Navy flew their Banshees off what would be considered an updated World War 2 Light Carrier ~ 16000 tonnes in size. Just your helicopter carriers of today are greater than 40000 tonnes. You would need balls of steel to land any jet on HCMS Bonaventure back in the day

Would you be willing to do the F7F TIGERCAT? Beautiful plane.

It's actually kind of a pretty plane

@brianhaygood183

2 жыл бұрын

Wing root twin engines just look great. The US version of the Canberra is a more attractive example

@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647

2 жыл бұрын

You have to "all that" to be noticed

Love to see the XF-108 I you haven't done it yet

You're gonna want that "forward punch motion."

The Banshee was not the only jet fighter used by the US Navy & Marines in Korea. The Grumman Panther & Douglas Skyknight were used. More Panthers than Banshees. Dark Skies never gets it right.

Thanks .Please do the DH Chipmunk.

Please do a deep dive on the Grumman A6

The F2H was a very good ground attack plane.

I would like to see a video on the Douglas BTD Destroyer.

Small bit of amusing trivia: the Canadians would be landing the banshees on their Majestic-class carrier (a modified version of the colossus class for jet craft use) while visiting american pilots would refuse to land on the carrier because it was too small (and legitimate safety concerns) and would instead land at nearby land-based air fields.

The Navy and Marines also flew the F9F Panther jets during the Korean War too.

Have you done a vid on the Skyknight yet?

How about a video on the "push-pull" FAO during Vietnam?

I would like to to see one on the Piaggio P.108, only 4 engine bomber the Italians made

At 0:21 that Barrel Rolling "MiG-15 just "might " be a Lavochkin LA-15. You can tell the MiG-15 apart from the La-15 by checking the placement of the wings. The MiG-15 had mid mounted wings while the La-15 had its wings mounted up High on the Shoulders of the Airplanes body and the plane in the picture seems to be one. For some reason there seems to be a lot of La-15 video available which seems to get mixed up with MiG-15 history. PS the La-15 was a failure as the MiG-15 was much better and only a couple hundred were built while 13 thousand MiG-15's were built. That shows which design "won" the competition for main Soviet fighter plane in the early 50's

@mfree80286

2 жыл бұрын

You are absolutely correct.

How about a video on the P-38 Lightning?

I am confused by the first sentence in this video. There's a link to a video about the F9F just to the right "Korean War Carrier Jet Fighter". Does he mean that it was the only plane used by Marines AND Navy squadrons? Confusing.

The speed of your speech makes you one of the best KZread bloggers ever!)

My dad commanded a squadron of these in the early 1950's. VF-22

I guess that the authors never read the book or watched the movie" The Bridges at Toko-Ri" - LAME Openng statement.

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

Sad, but probably true Kimberly.

@altrausch5775

2 жыл бұрын

Great movie and even better book. They were flying the Banshee in the book.

One of the banshees had a wing fold during flight killing the pilot and anothers brakes failed and the pilot drowned when it rolled of the carrier in service in Canada. Great photographic planes in Korea but not generally used as a frontline fighter.

The US had some really good looking Navy aircraft postwar.

How about the A 12 Shrike. That's just so very cool.

straight wings aside it looks modern and streamlined and like the cessna attack plane.

@kdrapertrucker

2 жыл бұрын

The Cessna attack plane was designed in the 1950s as a trainer.

Your video at 0:01 to 0:10 contradicts your previous video on the Grumman F9F Panther,. It too was jet powered, and also served with the USN and USMC during that same time period in Korea.

An economy of words lacking the drama and personality that mediocre narrators insist on injecting into stories that are interesting enough without enhancements. Bravo. It's a pleasure watching.., and especially listening to, your several series.

Grumman Panther used way more than the Banshee by USN during Korean War. Banshee not the only jet aircraft used by USN and USMC during Korean War.

Dark Skies, can we get a feature on the badass Men whom piloted all these wonderful aircraft???

IIRC the US Navy shot down Soviet MiGs during the Korean war near the Korean-USSR border. But it was immediately classified and wasn’t acknowledged for decades

@michaelbeloff3505

2 жыл бұрын

Yep no body wanted to ruffle Russian feathers, but there were cases on both sides of the iron curtain.

@Idahoguy10157

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelbeloff3505…. I’m aware of some of them

Was this the plane in bridges of toko-ri with William Holden?