I have a PhD in Crop and soil science, made GMO plants myself. I find this modification to be mostly harmless (mind you it took 20 years for it to be released). There are idiotic GMOs that have been made (GM canola mainly). But considering the chemicals we have been using everywhere, I'm not especially worried about most GMOs. I wanted to buy seeds of this one but I didnt want to deal with the patent issue. I save my own seeds and I'm also a market gardener so I wouldnt be able to sell the fruit. But now I kind of wish I had tried it and just bagged all the flowers. :p I want to try the glowing petunia but its very expensive ...

@C3Voyage

17 күн бұрын

Thanks for the valuable input and perspective. Stay with me as you may be able to provide welcomed input on my seedless parthenocarpic tomatoes. They've been at the genetics lab for a year now under contract.

Great video! I was searching for a taste test of these beauties as I have some huge ones growing but not ripe yet. I am trying to pollinate some heirlooms with these to see if I can get a hybrid. I have no intentions to sell them in any way but I am after that sandwich sized purple mater! The closest I'seen is a Chocolate Stripes or Black Brandywine, or sometimes Cherokee Purple will be close to purple. There are others but those three have awesome flavor AND look cool.

Tastes purple, but not like a snapdragon flower...got it 🤣 Not like the photos I've see, but still an interesting tomato. I really like how well it sets fruit. The health benefits are definitely something to consider. I thought about getting some of the seeds, but I decided I didn't have the space.

@C3Voyage

21 күн бұрын

If you want some later on, I'll send you some. I just collected seed an hour ago.

@MidwestGardener

21 күн бұрын

@@C3Voyage Thanks for the offer. I really appreciate it. I've got some things to figure out over here before I make any plans.

@MidwestGardener

21 күн бұрын

@@C3Voyage Thanks Brent!

@C3Voyage

21 күн бұрын

@@MidwestGardener Of course. Offer stands.

@GreenThumbGardener65

21 күн бұрын

You can buy it at the grocery store now, Lidl or Whole Foods. A package was 2.99. I guess they made their R&D fees back on the seed sale. My husband tried it and said it was meh!

Did you have any cross pollination with other tomatoe plants?

@C3Voyage

18 күн бұрын

No. I'm not saving seed except from bagged or hand-pollinated fruit. I'm very particular as a breeder. Curious why you asked.

Since the tomatoes get the anthocyanin on ripening, do uou think we need to let the tomatoes ripen on the plant? Supposedly, the tomatoes have a long shelf life, going bad on the plant shouldn't be a problem. I've also not seen any cracking or blossom end rot.

@C3Voyage

21 күн бұрын

The answer directly is yes if you want. Most of them, I let ripen on the plant. I don't have much bug or bird issues so I can. However, ripening on the counter affords the same anthos as ripening on the plant. The reason is because once the fruit begins producing ethylene to start the ripening process (any color) while on the plant, a membrane seals off the tomato. The tomato fruit itself (not the plant) uses the ethylene to ripen the fruit. So, leave on or off, doesn't matter. If you look at my video, I show one of the fruits having BER. It was rampant in my garden (my fault) so it wasn't the only one. After I corrected the deficiency, I don't see cracking or BER on it. The skin is a bit thick too which I didn't comment on.

As I go thru the video.. First, my I phone SE takes photos of the California poppies famous in my area and is a 4/10 at best to accurately show the vibrance of color compared to the real deal. Appreciate your showing pics from different cameras. With cell structure variations, what I expected to see with something called a purple tomato vs just the outer skin being purple/black. At least they used a plant/plant genetic modification vs say inserting the color from coral into a flower (animal/plant). Next I liked the uniformity and cluster/fruit size of the plant. From lack of splitting or imperfections, besides the slight BER, I guessed it would probably be a bit thick skinned. Lack of flavor...is the GMO tomato to take the place/blame of the hybrids? LOL. Never delving into the breeding realm, I thought " I'd cross it with a relatively well liked for flavor/ production like 'sweet million' and triple crop and see where that goes next year. Personal note about GMO... I've only grown about 100 varieties of tomatoes and have about...6000+ to go so I can probably go without it as a passion but would try as a novelty. So many things are killing us off ( besides ourselves) that it would be pretty hard to say if any GMO specifically is the cause of the end of mankind unless everyone who tried one drops dead soon after... I agree with you on one thing...let those who are younger than my 69 years take up the pro/con banner. Thanks again for sharing. Happy Gardening Brent.

@C3Voyage

21 күн бұрын

It does grow well and I read where they actually bred the tomato from 3 cultivars over 10 years. My guess is that they had to select for color first and the rest filled in afterwards. I do that sometimes with my parthenocarpic varieties. I've just decided to reduce all my lines and focus on a few that are the most ideal so I understand the compromises for the end product mindset. For crossing Empress with another line, I've considered it. Maybe over the winter.

These are the ONLY tomatoes in a normal market with TASTE. Can't eat the other hybrid red crap they sell. Planted a bunch of old variety black and dark tomatoes in my garden.

I am north of you in the same state. To me, it tastes very subdued in sweetness and acidity. The color changes from green to bronze then to a dark purple with occasional flecks. of orange. The plants are vigorous, but do have early blight. I had ten seedlings and all survived, but only four of the ten had two cotyledons. One had no cotyledons but, somehow, still managed to survive. Please correct me if I am incorrect, but it was my understanding that you can use the purple tomato for breeding, but the same terms apply to all prodigny. I do plan on some crosses for my own use.

@C3Voyage

21 күн бұрын

Directly from their site under "FAQs": ​ By purchasing NHP Purple Tomato seeds, I accept the following conditions: - Seeds, fruit and plant material are only allowed in the USA. - The seeds are a patented variety and are sold to enjoy in your home garden and with your local community. - No sales of fruit, seeds or plants are permitted in this agreement, including any derived varieties. - These seeds come with no warranties. From me: A "derived variety" is breeding with it and then using it to make a profit by sales or any other way. It doesn't matter if you purchase from them or not. If it's patented, and anyone breaches the patent, they will be found liable in court. In order to get the patent, they had to map the genetics. Doing that allows them to take material from any plant and check it's genetics. From there, they can tell if the snapdragon genes are in the plant. Any bred offspring will have the genes if that color appears. At that point, liable. I know these things because I'm in the process of attempting a patent on my pat-b parthenocarpy. Now, if you can ensure the genetics are not "released" by your efforts, then you'll be safe, but if they track it back to you as the source, you could be found liable. An example would be a family member or a friend you gave a ripe tomato to and they did something with it. All that said, I can imagine that it will be used extensively by so many people, it would not be in their interest to track it all down. It happens all the time with people breeding with patented hybrids from seed companies. Final note is a patent lasts for 20 years so after that, it's fair play. And, this is why most major Ag sells hybrids. They can keep you buying their seed forever. All they have to do is keep the two lines used to make the hybrid secret/restricted to only their use.

This is why the US needs MORE regulations and not less. Every other country is so much smarter. There is zero need for this.

@C3Voyage

19 күн бұрын

I agree with you more than disagree in the sense of protections as long as it doesn't restrict choice. I want the absolute smallest government possible. As an individual, I want the ability to choose in every facet of life, not have choices made for me. In that, and being a veteran, government's #1 should be to protect it's citizens from harm such as attacks from outside our borders and crime from within (theft, murder, assault, etc). Harmful food undisclosed fits that too. Also, I've been to so many countries and do enjoy many other cultures. Ours is by far the best. It's not close.

When I first saw the thumbnail of the video I said to myself "He's growing black cherries now". I try to stay away from GMO; especially if its from Bill Gates.

@C3Voyage

21 күн бұрын

Respect. Understand for sure.

@Mrbfgray

18 күн бұрын

Strictly speaking--there is no such thing as non-GMO. We've modified everything we consume, created corn from grass, etc. Used to use ionizing radiation for random mutations and select the few good ones.

20 bucks for a pack of GMO seeds. A fool and his money..........

@C3Voyage

19 күн бұрын

It costs more to eat at McDonalds for one. Perspective I suppose.

@C3Voyage

19 күн бұрын

You know I'm being cheeky. I understand your point.

Mother nature has survived for millions of years. Weve been around for only a short time. Maybe dont mess with it...and those just look weird.

@C3Voyage

18 күн бұрын

Just doesn't feel right to me either.

No GMO should ever be used if it can breed. I only have a PhD in Genetics...wtf do I know?

@C3Voyage

19 күн бұрын

Mankind will always find a way to be destructive. It doesn't help that today we are less moral IMO than ever before in our history. I'd be curious to hear your opinion on gene editing.

@davidstick9207

19 күн бұрын

@C3Voyage We use "gene splicing" all the time in labs. It has its medical uses. The problem with GMOs...which use gene splicing...isn't the technique. It is what is inserted. Let's say I got 2 tomato varieties in my garden. One is this GMO. The second is a heirloom. What pollinated what? Cause I can 100% guarantee no one knows. And my heirloom...is now worthless

Not a good idea

Your tom plants look terrible

@C3Voyage

18 күн бұрын

Why is that? Can you be more specific?