you had me at "hair loom". 😀

Thanks for the great info, I ordered the seeds! I enjoy a variety of tomatoes in the garden. These might be grown separately. On another note, one group of my Carmen sweet pepper plants last year was over 8 feet tall. My shortest sweet pepper plants are now 5 feet tall and full of peppers. I no longer use chemical fertilizers, only natural in my 20-inch raised bed low dig garden.

I ordered some tonight and can hardly wait to try them!

Thank you for bringing some science to this issue!

i just bought purple galaxy cannot wait to grow them,

Interesting and informative. Glad I found your channel.

Thank you for letting us know this! You think any chance of it being approved for Canada for this up coming garden season ?

I’m glad you aren’t spreading anti-GMO propaganda. This is a great explanation and I’m excited to try this new variety (when the seeds get cheaper).

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

Me too.

@joeyharris67

4 ай бұрын

Git after it....

I am growing 6 of the "Purple Tomato" this summer! My buddy ordered the seeds and started them up. I've got them in the ground now and they are by far the fastest growing maters out of all my 65 plants. I have mostly heirloom maters but always include hybrid Sun Gold and Super Sweet 100 cherries. I am super excited to try the new GMO, I will post vids As the plants continue to grow!

This may be an OPEN POLLINATED variety, but it is NOT an HEIRLOOM variety until seed has been saved and passed down through non-commercial means for at least 50 years. OP and heirloom may often be used interchangeably, but they are not the same thing.

@Gardenfundamentals1

5 ай бұрын

There is actually no accepted definition of heirloom. www.gardenmyths.com/heirloom-seed-myths/

@user-kg8gm6sk4f

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, if I wanted something artificial I'd buy it from the grocery store

@gangofgreenhorns2672

5 ай бұрын

Words are defined by their use, and the OP defined the term explicitly. We all know the colloquial definition of heirloom in no way includes GMOs--though open-pollinated obviously can. @@Gardenfundamentals1

@user-kg8gm6sk4f

5 ай бұрын

Ok, I get that. Organic, Heirloom is just a commercialized name, bought and paid for. What I'm looking for is real food that hasnt been modified to suit the needs of people who seek to make a profit by means that could be harmful to those who consume it. this is not it!!!@@Gardenfundamentals1

@MorganBrunson

5 ай бұрын

​@@Gardenfundamentals1the name heirloom in itself is a definition. Nothing is an heirloom until after the passage of time. Generally speaking with things it's at least 25 yrs old. Would you say that a 2024 Porsche is an heirloom? Might as well if you call that purple Barney tomato one. I saw your 10 10 10 video. So I decided to check out more since that particular video was full of inaccurate statements. Now this. It's like seeing a politician in a garden. Just wrong on many levels.

Thanks for explaining this in great and understandable detail. I was excited to see this on Baker Creek's seed catalog and then highly disappointed when they later said it would not be available. I'm still waiting for the seed I've ordered from Norfolk. It should be mentioned that they're $2/seed, enough to put some gardeners off, so I hope they're worth it. I plan to segregate at least half of the transplants from my regular tomato crop just to see what happens. Thanks for your efforts!

excellent video, sadly I'm from OZ so no chance we'll be able to get those seeds anytime soon.

i already purchased the purple tomato seeds. I am very excited.

@cindyinpcola

2 ай бұрын

Update?

Thank you Robert for explaining about this purple tomato.Iam going try and see if I can get seeds.I will send you bottles of purple and blue ketchup.

The biggest issue with gmo is that usually it's done to enable stronger herbicide and pesticide spraying. Doesn't seem to be the case here.

@rephaelreyes8552

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. Anthocyanin is naturally produced in tomato leaves and stem when the plant is under stress. They just found a way to switch that gene on for fruit production

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

No, that is not why GMO crops were created. The first GM crops were created to resist glyphosate, the most safe and most effective herbicide ever invented.

@Ixquick979

3 ай бұрын

@@DukeGMOLOL you literally confirmed what he said. With normal crop you cant use a herbicide while the crop is growing because it will kill the weeds and the crop but with a crop genetically engineered to be resistant to the herbicide you can use the herbicide to control the weeds while the crop is growing.

@DukeGMOLOL

3 ай бұрын

@@Ixquick979 Nope, sterlinguini's claim was "The biggest issue with gmo is that usually it's done to enable stronger herbicide and pesticide spraying." Glyphosate is not "a stronger herbicide".

Bananas... yum. I would love to have some purple cherry tomatoes.

Ordered some. Hope the world doesn't end now. 🤣

Will it ripen purple on the counter if picked early the way red tomatoes do?

@y0g_s0th0th

5 ай бұрын

The purple color comes from the sun's exposure. Once you bring it indoors the purpling will stop.

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

@@y0g_s0th0th It's purple through and through because of genetics not the sun.

Wow, GMOs for gardeners! I was wondering when this would happen. This is a game changer. Very interesting; thanks for the update.

@psisky

5 ай бұрын

GMO seeds for gardeners have been around for years.

@Gardenfundamentals1

5 ай бұрын

Not really. Unless you are to buy larger amounts and sign a contract.

@psisky

5 ай бұрын

@@Gardenfundamentals1 I thought most sweetcorns were already GMO'd.

@shawnsg

4 ай бұрын

@@psisky a home grower can technically buy GMO sweet corn from a few of the bigger retail seed suppliers online but it's usually only sold in large quantities (20k+) and it's expensive. You have to sign their agreement thing as well.

However I do believe if you use their tomato to bread with you can never sell plants or seeds of whatever you create. I guess it belongs to Norfolk. *No sales of fruit, seeds or plants are permitted in this agreement, including any derived varieties. So any accidental or purposely crossed tomatoes can not be sold. I'm curious why they would only pursue the seed market in the US instead of the UK where they are based out of.

where do I buy the purple galaxy cant find the website

@Gardenfundamentals1

5 ай бұрын

www.norfolkhealthyproduce.com/

Great video. This GMO tomato is going to be interesting to follow this year. Do you plan to grow some this summer?

@davidgray1515

5 ай бұрын

F no!

@Gardenfundamentals1

5 ай бұрын

Yes.

@douellette7960

5 ай бұрын

@@davidgray1515 that kind of response will only embolden more people to embrace GMOs. Try another tactic

@matthewking2209

5 ай бұрын

@@Gardenfundamentals1 Can you get them? I thought they were US only does that include Canada?

Baker creek is also more expensive for pretty much everything. They have interesting varieties and free shipping. That is the draw.

I have some of these (Norfolk's Purple GMO Tomato) germinating as i type this..

@cindyinpcola

2 ай бұрын

Update on the purple tomatoes? What growing zone?

@RovingPunster

2 ай бұрын

@@cindyinpcola I'm in Zone 7b. I have 4 plants going. I transplanted them into solo cups, then groomed em for deep rooting by constantly removing all but the top tier leaves ... every tier becomming a growth node for roots upon deep planting. By the time it was consistently 50F+ overnight, my seedlings all had 5-6 denuded & dormant tiers, when I then buried all the way at the bottom of some 7 gal grow bags, with rooting enzyme dusted up the full length of the stem. That was a little over 2 weeks ago, so all those rooting nodes are starting to emerge subsurface, creating the start of a full column multi-tier root ball. With the planned extra root power in the chute, I used pruning in tandem to create 2 mainstems instead of my usual 1. They've been out on my trellis now for over a week, and are starting to rocket upwards at around 1"/day. Im starting to pinch off flower nodes already, and its not even memorial day yet. Crazy weather . . . spring seems 2+wks ahead of schedule.

@RovingPunster

2 ай бұрын

@@cindyinpcola Hmm, my reply last night seems to have vanished. Lemme try again ... As I type this I have 16 tomato plants going ... 4 of them are the GMO-Purps. Of those, 3 are on my outdoor string trellis, and one ison an ibdoor trellis I improvised back in Feb. Normally I prune indeterminate tomatoes for just 1 mainstem, but this year im doing 2 mainstems because of a multi-tier rooting system im experimenting with ... I keep removing all tiers below the current top tier until I have at least 5 or 6 cut dormant tiers on the stem. Why ? That enabled me to plant extra deep ... all the way at the bottom on my 7 gal grow bags, with the full length of the stem having been brushed with rooting enzyme. Each of those submerged cut tiers is a growth node that can put out roots (which takes about 10 days to start). Because spring seems to have arrived 2 weeks early here in Zone 7b, I was able to move 3 of the 4 plants outside to my outdoor trellis a full 2 weeks ago. Theyve since recovered from transplant shock, and have entered the "rocket phase" of vegetative growth, with 1"/day of growth up the trellis. Ive already pinched off several flower nodes. The extra vertical rooting volume should more than support the extra mainstems ... if I can avoid/delay my nemesis, fusarium. For that, im hoping the biofungicide in the Promix BX soil im using will help deter it. I'm expecting a bumper crop.

@RovingPunster

2 ай бұрын

@@cindyinpcola Ive had not 1 but 2 lengthly detailed replies vanish. WTF ?

@cindyinpcola

2 ай бұрын

@@RovingPunster I hate to hear that. I would really like to hear the experiences other growers of this tomato has had compared to mine.

Baker Creek got caught doing shady practices. Amazing that people are buying their explanations...

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

Agree.

It's "The Purple Tomato" from Norfolk Healthy Produce, costs $20 for ten seeds.

@elsaz8783

5 ай бұрын

I got them . When I got it, I almost mistook the envelope for junk mail. Anyway I am very excited.

@deepwaters2334

5 ай бұрын

Then they will try to sue you if you try to sell anything that was even cross pollinated by their variety. Totally ridiculous!!!!

@deepwaters2334

5 ай бұрын

@TheR3alRyan 🤣

@C3Voyage

5 ай бұрын

@@deepwaters2334 It's patented work from a decade of devotion. Why should you benefit immediately off of their work? No one would develop special cultivars if greedy, self-centered people took all their work. If you don't like it, go somewhere else.

@deepwaters2334

5 ай бұрын

@@C3Voyage They want to claim they own any seed from any tomato that happens to be pollinated by it, and you think I am greedy? They should not be allowed to own the rights to any free exchange of information in nature itself. Therefore, they should not be able to own any rights to the organism just because of a genetic modification. Can you imagine if a mechanic owned your vehicle just because he replaced a part on your car? Same idea: why should they own the whole organism just because they changed part of the information inside? This legally could allow the prosecution of innocent people. I think if anything the GMO producer should be prosecuted for tampering with the DNA of the gene pool of plants without the consent of the farmers.

Interesting!

Not an heirloom in my opinion since "heirloom" literally means something passed down through generations. I'm not even sure what variety they originally modified. I wouldnt bother with this variety unless I found out its tastes great or some other home growing benefit unlike store bought varieties. They implicate it tastes great due to its colour but I'm not convinced anthocyanins have any taste benefit though I could be swayed on the matter if true. For some people including myself, the fear around GMO's is not a necessarily a direct health issue from the genetics but who is in control of the genetics through patents and its effect on the way our food is produced by corporations. One thing that confuses me on the effectiveness of anthocyanins, which afaik have not yet been proven beneficial, is how antioxidants transported by blood affect hemoglobin which I assume when transporting oxygen, is actually oxidizing. Thanks for the sciency info on a great current topic.

@jimperris1617

5 ай бұрын

I think the video's title is meant to be a humorous oxymoron.

@artofmagi

5 ай бұрын

Agreed. Even though this one can be saved and shared, there was that bit about the seed or anything produced from it cannot be sold. Seeds are one freedom we have left. If you grow it you should be able to sell it. IMO any of these companies only own the seed that the sold, not the potential of what can be done with it, let alone anything that may have been accidentally cross pollinated by plants grown from it. Nothing else that I know of works this way (like patenting a computer part doesn't mean you can't sell computers that contain it). The health fear comes not from GMO itself, but why many of them have been created - to make them resistant to poisons. Then to patent life on top of that, so that someone owns the rights to a seed and anything grown from it is an ethical line that I don't think should have been crossed, and has turned into a nightmare in the agriculture industry. It's a massive moral issue. I'll get my anthocyanins the old-fashioned way, and stick to heirlooms that aren't owned by anyone.

@Gardenfundamentals1

5 ай бұрын

There is actually no accepted definition of heirloom.

@artofmagi

5 ай бұрын

Personally doesn't matter to me if it's heirloom or not, but I don't want to grow GMO anything because of ethical/moral reasons. Maybe GMO helped with a few things (not enough to make up for the devastation it has caused in other ways), but this is letting the cat out of the bag into the home market. Seeds shouldn't come with terms and conditions.

@jeil5676

5 ай бұрын

@@Gardenfundamentals1 In popular usage, an heirloom is something that has been passed down for generations through family members. Examples are a family bible, antiques, weapons or jewellery. Heirloom - Wikipedia Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Heirloom

having more varieties is a good thing, right ?

Thank you Mr. P. 🪻💚🙃

Ordered mine today, $20 for ten seeds Free shipping USPS.

I dug up 5 pounds of purple sweet potatoes in my yard last week.

Blue snapdragon? Do you know a botanical name for this? That's sort of a fundamental bit of information.

@shawnsg

4 ай бұрын

Antirrhinum majus.

@kathrynreeves5876

4 ай бұрын

There is no blue Antirrhinum majus. I think he was referring to a different genus & species.@@shawnsg

I first heard about this new tomato on Linda Chalker-Scott's blog and after reading I was very disspointed. Disapponted that its not licensed or approved for sale in Canada. What a complete letdown 😢

Some of the heirloom seeds, collect seeds from people. My x did it. It's sorta alot of trust, to collect seeds from people, and to expect them to be honest. And sometimes the ones whom saved the seeds might have passed. So, there are multiple ways to make this opps.

So refreshing in the gardening space to hear someone who doest automatically cry bloody murder when GMO is mentioned! What a cool variety! I wonder when will ill be able to get one of those in Eu.

@charliedoyle7824

5 ай бұрын

The EU will likely make another of their idiotic "protect the farmers" moves and ban these. I can see the French and Italian idiot traditionalists shutting down the country over this.

So glad you made this video! I’m so excited to grow this tomato! Waiting for my order now. I think this tomato is the start of more nutritious foods.

Are you allowed to save the seeds?

@psisky

5 ай бұрын

Be a rebel. Save the seeds.

@maddydenny244

5 ай бұрын

@@psisky I think I will stick to what is tried and Tru for now😊

@Gardenfundamentals1

5 ай бұрын

Second part of video - yes

@MorganBrunson

5 ай бұрын

​@@Gardenfundamentals1tell them the truth. Every tomato seed they collect will be genetically modified unless extreme care is taken.

@cindyinpcola

2 ай бұрын

@@Gardenfundamentals1When is the second update? I’m growing these too and would like to hear of others experience growing these.

Heirloom means it has been handed down from generation to generation. It's a useful term for those of us averse to the process of violating plants through damaging their genes. Finally, I would like to know if you are sponsored, and if so, who sponsors you?

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

The genes of this tomato were not violated nor damaged.

It makes a mockery of the term Heirloom.

I wish people would understand and get excited about my parthenocarpic lines of tomato. I'm not sure if they think it's GMO or they don't understand the benefits even after explaining it--no need for pollination and high production. Most don't say. An algorithm thing? Anyway, the genetic testing and patent research prove a novel trait. It'll be here as soon as I can get it out. Please forgive the plug. I think it's relevant.

@RobG7aChattTN

5 ай бұрын

Well…I never heard about it so I guess that’s part of the problem. Very hard to get the word out. I’m developing a purple iridescent chicken and I’ve been trying to hype them up but won’t have them available for years. Are you trying to hype your tomatoes?

@C3Voyage

5 ай бұрын

@@RobG7aChattTN Hype can mean "get the word out" or "exaggerate". I don't exaggerate. It's a form of lying or deceit. Getting the word out is definitely what I'm trying to do. They did this sort of thing with the purple tomato too prior to release...news release, articles, etc. The desire for parthenocarpy in tomato has been huge for a century, so documentation of the capability is more of interest to me as a form of protection, but I do want the public to know so it's two-fold. Interesting on the chicken!

@RobG7aChattTN

5 ай бұрын

@@C3Voyage well…I just watched one video and did a google search and didn’t find much on your tomatoes. Do you sell seeds or plants or are they still in development? I found a few seeds for “seedless” tomatoes but no mention of parthenocarpy so maybe just fewer seeds?

@C3Voyage

5 ай бұрын

@@RobG7aChattTN They're always in development in the sense that I'm constantly improving the lines. The gene is called pat-b and that is solid. Two years ago, I sent material to a lab and have partnered to identify where on the genome (millions of genes) pat-b is located. It's narrowed down, but not exact enough to patent. Patenting is the goal for us so that's the hold-up at this point. They're rerunning the marker assays.

@RobG7aChattTN

5 ай бұрын

@@C3Voyage OK…so none of the parthenocarpic tomatoes are available now and you are holding off until you can patent it. Got it. That probably explains the lack of enthusiasm. Most likely once you have a patent you’ll be selling seeds (if F1s are seedless) or clones through a big corporation and they’ll do the hyping.

What ever color you want you water it with that color kool aid. You want purple tomatoes use grape kool aid. It's actually pretty clear when you break it down. lol.

What about the GMO corn? I thought studies showed it was inflammatory toward animals fed it. Is it because of all the chemicals used on corn or what? Also studies show GMO soy causes stomach inflation.

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

All that is false. Regards.

@vansicklejerry

4 ай бұрын

@@DukeGMOLOL If GMOs are so good for you, why have so many other countries banned it?

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

@@vansicklejerry Almost zero countries ban GMO's. Those that don't grow GM crops import them. In the EU for example, only Spain and Portugal grow GM corn, but the EU countries import millions of tons of GM crops each year. Glad that EU countries don't grow GM crops, that's great for our farmers.

@vansicklejerry

4 ай бұрын

@@DukeGMOLOL I lived in Germany for 2.5 years. Ya there is a ban on growing with GMO in Germany and if it is imported it has to be labeled, but we shopped on the German economy and we never seen the products on the shelves. Nobody will buy it so it's not carried by grocery stores. At least none that we ever shopped at.

@vansicklejerry

4 ай бұрын

@@DukeGMOLOL Ya, it appears not many have banned the import, but like I said we never seen any while living in Germany. Here is the list I found on a google search of countries that have banned it completely: Here is a list of countries that have banned both GMO imports and GMO cultivation: Algeria Kyrgyzstan Bhutan Madagascar Peru Russia Venezuela Zimbabwe

I so appreciate a man of science telling it like it is

@MorganBrunson

5 ай бұрын

With degrees in chemistry and biology I'm not sure about this guy. Lots of misinformation and left out tid bits.

I have noticed that modern non-GMO purple varieties (blue beauty, midnight snack, etc) have phenomenally increased disease resistance. OTOH dark heirlooms like cherokee purple, black krim, and black cherry are the first to succumb to disease. It must be a different pigment that darkens the heirlooms. On account of disease resistance alone, I predict the high-antho tomato will become *the* tomato.

@davidgray1515

5 ай бұрын

For morons

@charliedoyle7824

5 ай бұрын

I tried the first high-anto purple tomato on the market about ten years ago, Indigo Rose from Oregon State, from traditional breeding. It was very prolific and a durable hard tomato that got purple on the sun side, and reddish inside. It tasted awful unless it was fully ripe, which took a long time because it was so hard. It looked great, but was not worth growing. I think this GMO purple tomato is an attempt to improve on Indigo Rose by making it all purple, so healthier, and hopefully taste good.

@sandpine

5 ай бұрын

This seems to be a characteristic of purple varieties in general. My purple green beans faced far pest pressure.

Will we see, in our lifetimes, psychotropic fruits and salads? The Simpsons did predict the nicotine tomato. We can have caffeinated kale. MDMA melons. Cannabinated carrots.

I still am standing by Baker Creek no matter what! I think it's horrible that people are trying to destroy a wonderful company that makes wonderful heirloom tomatoes available to us.

I like thistles, they should make GMO thistles

I think in EU there is no GMO seeds

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

Only GMO corn in Spain and Portugal. The EU imports millions of tons of GMO crops each year. I'm glad they are scientifcally backward over there as it is great business for our farmers.

Purple tomatoes are the best.

One study done by the company selling the seeds isn't enough for me to confirm safety. Very cool and interesting though. But I'm also not a mouse.

@tourmaline7742

5 ай бұрын

If you eat anything with corn syrup in the ingredients, like ketchup, you’re already eating a GMO. A lot of commercial grown corn is a GMO crop.

@cannafarmer

5 ай бұрын

​​@@tourmaline7742 it varies though, genetically modified organism varies from case to case. No way to 100%ensure safety, life is dangerous though you can get hit by a truck walking down the street. I work with these regulatory bodies for my job

@goodman854

5 ай бұрын

@@tourmaline7742How was that relevant to my point? And I'm well aware GMO is in most of our foods. I was talking about 1 specific product "THIS TOMATO" you can't lump in and classify all GMO products as the exact same. Virtually all corn minus I think popping corn is GMO. I'm aware. Corn Syrup is universally terrible for you btw. I eat a somewhat healthy diet of mostly fresh foods. I'm not a TV dinner boy like the rest of the USA.

@davidgray1515

5 ай бұрын

The first educated person to comment

@charliedoyle7824

5 ай бұрын

There's nothing about GMO that has ever been shown to be dangerous. It's just the code for a healthy protein that is now in the tomato. Nothing to worry about. If you use insulin, or know anybody who does, it's GMO insulin product that they're injesting. Same with most citric acid and consumer cheese, made on a large scale thanks to GMO chymosin to curdle the milk. GMO is certainly the way of the future, and that's a very good thing.

Great news.

I got a pack of these and am excited to grow them this Fall. It’s too late for a Spring harvest here in FL. Synthetic insulin is also GMO and I’m very thankful for it. This shouldn’t be scary.

@davidgray1515

5 ай бұрын

I can tell you are poorly educated. Curiosity killed the cat.

@Sorrento_Ben

5 ай бұрын

@@davidgray1515 how nice of you to reply

@Sorrento_Ben

5 ай бұрын

@@davidgray1515 I’m definitely curious enough to keep using this insulin.

@caspiana3623

5 ай бұрын

@@Sorrento_Ben But not educated enough to try and change your diet. That is, of course, if yours is type 2.

@Sorrento_Ben

5 ай бұрын

@@caspiana3623 Type-1, back when it was still called “child-onset”. Suffice it to say my diet is likely more healthy than most because of my diabetes. Perhaps you should have educated yourself before making such a statement? Maybe even asked the question? Good for you to give yourself an out though after insulting my intelligence without cause. Keyboard intellectuals..

Thanks for another great vid.

Imagine the size of the problem with these genetically modified tomatoes if they were hybridized with other tomatoes! In the end, hybrid tomatoes will be produced, and we do not know this. We will be confused. People may not commit to planting them in an isolated and individual place, but rather they may conduct their experiments and sell the seeds as well!!

I thought the GMO risk was that farmers go crazy spraying on extra herbicides.. not necessarily the DNA of the plant itself.

@Gardenfundamentals1

5 ай бұрын

GMO has nothing to do with herbicides - common myth. www.gardenmyths.com/gmo-myths-understand-the-truth-about-gmo-plants/

@davidgray1515

5 ай бұрын

Then why are the seeds called Round Up ready? Because they are created to resist the round up herbicide.@@Gardenfundamentals1

@lettucesalad3560

5 ай бұрын

@@Gardenfundamentals1 Like Round-up ready Soybeans and corn are GMO to resist any impact from the herbicide Roundup.. -->Then farmers can spray as much Roundup on their crops as they want, so the grains/beans have extra herbicides when harvested. It's not inside the genetics, it's coating the grain/seeds because of how the crops were sprayed.

@inharmonywithearth9982

5 ай бұрын

Usually genetic modification IS to make herbicide resistant crops. After all the agencies and laboratories of the USDA are fully controlled by appointed Monsanto/a.k.a. Bayer herbicide/ pesticide men.

@charliedoyle7824

5 ай бұрын

Scientists splice specific genes into their target organism. When they engineered a purple tomato from a specific snapdragon gene, the result isn't going to be something that is Roundup-ready for herbicide spray. That's a very different gene and function. No chance to mix the two up. It's one gene that codes for a healthy purple protein. As they get much better at genetic engineering, both understanding what the genes do for phenotype and how to accurately do the modifications, the results for crops will be dramatic and ultimately very good, as in bigger, healthier, faster growing, more colors, tastier. Being worried about that is silly.

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If they are GMO They are not heirlooms anymore…..

then it isn't heirloom then is it.

GMO sometimes taste better

Heirloom and GMO don't go together.

Great news. And it's OK'd by the government so that guarantees it's safe, right? I can't wait until the big Beefsteak tomatoes get stuffed with some Hereford DNA and will have all that wonderful fat marbleizing inside. Who needs hamburger?

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

GM crops are safe.

If this is a GMO tomato yet they call it non GMO, isn't that deceiving?

Snapdragons are carnivorus. They've created purple people eaters.

@instantsiv

5 ай бұрын

The tomato that eats you.

@psisky

5 ай бұрын

Have you seen empty snapdragon seed pods?

@Jan-ps6wm

5 ай бұрын

🤣 But do they fly?

@hoosierpioneer

5 ай бұрын

The movie "Attack of the Killer Tomato" has come to reality.

GMO and Heirloom in the same sentence is a contradiction in terms.

@MorganBrunson

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I think this guy is not as good at being a qualified mentor. I've watched a cpl videos and it amazes me how much misinformation he spews.

@Ben_Dare

3 ай бұрын

Heirloom just means " true to seed" and the seed of this gmo fits the bill.

What the risk are pollan drift to your neighbors organic tomatoes. Honey bees will contaminate your neighbors honey. Its legal to do that ,but not morally right Millions of new gardeners coming on line. The companys all the big boys want a peace of the action. They want small organic growers gone. This guy is going To get you to help the big boys. He is ?

*running around in circles screaming* (on a more serious note: what about the TASTE?)

It's not the fear of EATING the tomato that's going to be the big issue. Its the fear of and the probable intent of the developer of the GMO purple cross pollinating with all the other tomato varieties until every variety is infected and then like they've already said, you are going to be banned from selling them, at which point they're going to take over the tomato industry as well as the tomato farmers land just like they did with the GMO corn.

@charliedoyle7824

5 ай бұрын

That's nonsense. They won't be able to stop home gardeners from saving tomato seeds once they sell the seeds to gardeners, which this company is clearly doing. It would be impossible to stop gardeners from being gardeners, and any judge knows that marketing seeds to gardeners means they know ahead of time that their seeds will become open-source for the gardener community. It's common knowledge of how gardeners have always operated. The only way they could try and legally prevent us from breeding with their Purple Tomato is to only sell to people who signed waivers to not resell or use the seeds for commercial purposes or breeding, and then start enforcing it with litigation. They're not doing any of that, so these are normal gardener tomato seeds that happen to be purple tomatoes.

@mpsorrentino

5 ай бұрын

@@charliedoyle7824 Have you looked at plant tags for things like trees, roses, and berry plants at the big box stores? Almost all have a warning about propagation for commercial or personal use being prohibited and subject to legal action, now how exactly they'd find out if you did it for personal use I don't know but they definitely put it on there. Nothing to stop Norfolk from doing the same thing here.

@matthewking2209

5 ай бұрын

@@charliedoyle7824 When you checkout you have to agree to these terms. *No sales of fruit, seeds or plants are permitted in this agreement, including any derived varieties.

@charliedoyle7824

5 ай бұрын

@@matthewking2209 That flimsy agreement is an admission that it's okay to save seeds for yourself and develop them, which as I said is universally known as something gardeners do. They don't want other businesses using their variety to market another very similar variety, but they won't be able to enforce anything in court against a home gardener doing normal seed saving and crossing. It's not unreasonable to prevent other businesses from grabbing their variety for nothing, considering how much effort it took to develop it. I wouldn't have the slightest concern about being prosecuted for saving the purple seeds and developing another variety for home use. You're being a paranoid nutter who'd rather not have improved genetics in tomatoes.

@charliedoyle7824

5 ай бұрын

@@mpsorrentino nothing except Norfolk doesn't have any warning against home gardeners making their own crosses, and common sense indicating that everybody knows that gardeners replant their own crosses with F1 tomato seeds, often without even trying to use a particular pollinator. Norfolk couldn't sue a home gardener for having a purple hybrid from their Purple parent if they wanted to. Just don't try to market a new purple variety in your big seed company. That could be a problem.

Thick-skinned tomatoes will be humanity's downfall!

I think this video simplifies the story and perhaps mischaracterizes some of the statements and actions from Baker Creek. My understanding is that Baker Creek was misled by a supplier into believing these seeds to be non-GMO and then after issues were raised and testing couldn't prove that they weren't GMO, they decided not to sell them. While its clear that they made some mistakes, I don't think there's any reason to assume they acted in bad faith, nor is it fair to cast their business as a big evil corporation.

@davidgray1515

5 ай бұрын

They have plenty of knowledge to know this was shady.

@GuidoDavidN

5 ай бұрын

They have refused to be transparent, they have been vague and they have refused to answer questions about the testing. Baker Creek has blamed others carelessly for this when it's convenient. They are not a victim here.

@Richard-ck3jl

5 ай бұрын

"I don't think there's any reason to assume..." Yes there's a reason: 💲💲💲

The company will try to sue you if you sell a tomato with their gmo genes, whether you know it or not. This is a major legal problem!!!! This is horrible for the home gardener!

@douellette7960

5 ай бұрын

Home gardeners sell tomatoes? A small grower that sells from produce from his 'home' property is not what is meant by a home gardener. There's no legality issue here at all.

@deepwaters2334

5 ай бұрын

@@douellette7960 There are many sellers of Heirloom varieties that would be affected. It is no small issue; how would you like to be surled for having done nothing malicious at all? This is ridiculous!!!

@hoosierpioneer

5 ай бұрын

​@@douellette7960It doesn't matter what name you give us. If we can be sued for selling our produce that got contaminated with this purple tomato when we saved seed, it's a big problem. We can't afford to test every plant before we sell from it.

@shawnsg

4 ай бұрын

This tomato plant produces uniquely purple tomatoes. Its "offspring" will also produce purple tomatoes. Could you explain in what scenario you would sell a uniquely purple tomato and not know it was a purple tomato? Also, they do restrict the sale of the fruits, seeds, etc right now. However, it has nothing to do with being GMO. If you purchase the seeds, you are agreeing to follow certain rules. Anyone can do this with any seed, plant, so on. Yes, they can sue you if you use their IP to make your own purple tomato. Come up with your own to avoid it.

@deepwaters2334

4 ай бұрын

@@shawnsg The point is I don't want someone coming back and saying they want my money because they were accidentally cross pollinated by theirs even five or ten generations back. It is totally ridiculous. Eventually they will own every tomato plant in existence if they own all the offspring! Such an indefensible and ridiculous position.

Hair loom Whats a HAIR LOOM? Something you weave wool on?

There are so many tomatoes that nature made. I do not need this overpriced one. I’ll leave that for the folks that want a rich man’s garden.

First!

Totally no problems with gmo the past 40 years....except the explosion of serious diseases, including in children. You are off your rocker

@Gardenfundamentals1

5 ай бұрын

Sorry - but your view has no basis.

@thedomestead3546

5 ай бұрын

​@@Gardenfundamentals1you're still eating French Fries. Are you a dietitian?

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

Blubbering nonsense.

WTF no way ain't buying the bullshit

@davidgray1515

5 ай бұрын

Smart

I saw a cpl videos of this guy. Much misinformation in each. Now this one. He can't even say heirloom. Wtf us a hair loom. And he has no idea about DNA especially the difference btwn geno and pheno typical traits. Espousing the misinformation about this. Franken food has no place in a home garden. Frankly gmo has no place in the food chain period.

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

Frankly your comment is blubbering horseshift.

@MorganBrunson

4 ай бұрын

@@DukeGMOLOL opinions are like assholes.... everybody has one. And you speak from yours well. Natural or learned trait? But I'll take my fact based science any day. Hell I paid for that genetics class to get my bio degree so I definitely paid attention.

@MorganBrunson

4 ай бұрын

@@DukeGMOLOL btw I think you meant HORSE shit. But maybe you did mean horseshift

@MorganBrunson

4 ай бұрын

@@DukeGMOLOL you mean horse shit or horseshift?

@DukeGMOLOL

4 ай бұрын

@@MorganBrunson "Frankly gmo has no place in the food chain period." Your bio degree was incomplete. I would guess you would ban insulin.