The New Apartheid by Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh: Panel Discussion at WiSER, Wits University

Video recording of the book launch for the New Apartheid by Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh held at the Wits Institute for Social and Economic Research (WiSER) at Wits University on the 4th August 2021.
Panelists:
Introduction: Prof. Sarah Nuttall
Author: Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh (WiSER)
Respondents:
Dr Mpho Matsipa (Harvard)
Rekgotsofetse Chikane (Wits School of Governance)
Jessica Breakey (WiSER)
Closing remarks: Prof. Achille Mbembe (WiSER)
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CONTENTS
00:00 Introduction by Prof. Nuttall
04:25 Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh
24:48 Dr Mpho Matsipa
37:38 Rekgotsofetse Chikane
49:45 Jessica Breakey
57:26 Prof. Achille Mbembe
01:09:25 Discussion
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Credits: Edited by Tsholanang Rapoo
Thanks to the Wits Institute for Social and Economic Research (WiSER) for making this recording available.

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  • @jonathankhwinana3050
    @jonathankhwinana30503 жыл бұрын

    This is the true history of South Africa that will pave the New educational System to come soon. Well done Sizwe, Ayeye.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙌🏽🙏🏽 Ayeye!

  • @nothandimagodla8518

    @nothandimagodla8518

    3 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations

  • @amarula7589
    @amarula75893 жыл бұрын

    'Privatization of prosecution', Doctor this was a needed discussion as a whole. I will definitely purchase your book. I think it will be a great book to pass down to the next generation,in them having a understanding of the foundation in the hermeneutics of their country's history.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Indeed, that’s the hope.

  • @akanibaone7082

    @akanibaone7082

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@_SMWX hi Dr Sizwe, is your book available on Amazon in paperback format? Please let me know.Thanks

  • @Sundance_xx
    @Sundance_xx3 жыл бұрын

    God bless you guys. Our brothers and sisters are suffering beyond belief and people like you gives me hope for a better future for our black brothers and sisters.

  • @kadkd6806
    @kadkd68062 жыл бұрын

    Thank you doc. You have put into words what others cant. We've always known there are major problems in our society, but couldnt put our fingers on it. Questions that I hear very often from members of society: Who is really in control of Education, Legal section, economics and sport in this country? What has changed and what has stayed the same? These are the areas where people are marginalized the most. Wherever big money is involved the poor has less access to it and the same people are favoured that have been benefitting under apartheid. We need to open discussions about things that need to change in SA. In stead of defending limiting and discriminating policies/behaviour we should openly condemn and correct it. Well done doc for opening this discussion. It is much needed. Our hope is on the younger generation like yourself to open and continue with these avenues so that past discriminating policies can be corrected.

  • @obakengafrica2919
    @obakengafrica29193 жыл бұрын

    Having listened to this panel discussion, I'm convinced that I need your book to set up the problem of my Masters dissertation. Yours is the most coherent account that can help me polish the argument I articulated in my proposal.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope it helps with your dissertation!

  • @khumothage4629
    @khumothage46293 жыл бұрын

    Another perspective is that people cross crocodile infested waters everyday (some die in the process) to get into this country.

  • @realhouserecords3052
    @realhouserecords30522 жыл бұрын

    You just hit a nail right here, let's hope are People will lend you an ear

  • @akanibaone7082
    @akanibaone70822 жыл бұрын

    Well done. Produce more thought provoking, unapologetic and challenging material for those who are still asleep and still believe apartheid does not exist in SA or those who do not want to deal with it decisively so we can move on.

  • @ashwinmark1849
    @ashwinmark18493 жыл бұрын

    Congrats congrats Doc for expanding and opening our understanding about apartheid and that its more then just race i hope the uninformed people which lack knowledge will be made aware of this book as their perception is very narrow.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏽

  • @georgegabriel1629
    @georgegabriel16292 жыл бұрын

    The New Apartheid is clearly a global phenomenon? In which case it forms part of thousands of years of human cultural evolution. One that includes pinnacle moments when a new stream of freedom is released. In that context, it is clear to me that the solution must be based in the emerging technology and understanding of our particular time. As such, we have a lot to learn from both the founding of the United States (democratic republic) and the founding of companies like Apple and Uber. The potential of SA is enormous, but only if we act from the new tech-enabled social consciousness. So grateful for your voice, as a spokesperson for this new awareness.

  • @mlinganimatiwane
    @mlinganimatiwane3 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to joint ventures between the academic and young black highly conscious graduate classes of RMF et al... as we seek to build businesses and careers post varsity and as you have taken the baton to remain in academia towards answering the questions we can only fund and give case-study to... exciting times.

  • @thriveinspire4151
    @thriveinspire41513 жыл бұрын

    Erudite discussions i must say.This book is an eye opener, it promotes critical thinking. What is however important is looking at role of the media in the promotion of the privatization of apartheid as observed by Achilles.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely!

  • @shentenaidoo8920
    @shentenaidoo89202 жыл бұрын

    congrats......very true the future is an egalitarian state and resistance to it.......which is playing out in our movement today.......

  • @peg9950
    @peg99502 жыл бұрын

    I look forward to reading this book and then coming back to this engagement.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙌🏽

  • @jacquesdewet2661
    @jacquesdewet26613 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for being honest that you don't know what the solutions are. The answers to these problems where given decades ago.

  • @jacquesdewet2661

    @jacquesdewet2661

    3 жыл бұрын

    Doc.. I know you're well meaning. Use your platform wisely.

  • @hugh300

    @hugh300

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacquesdewet2661 Well said.

  • @zwelonkelikhecks9075
    @zwelonkelikhecks90752 жыл бұрын

    Indeed apartheid was privatized i agree with you Bro Sizwe you're spot on continue with the good work i fully support SMWX

  • @georgesmacaire9029
    @georgesmacaire90293 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations for this new book

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @MrSizweist
    @MrSizweist2 жыл бұрын

    Nostalgia propagated through the built environment..........we need to formulate questions around that. I still need to buy the book!

  • @12Tebza
    @12Tebza3 жыл бұрын

    "Make Verwoed Blush" 😂🤣😅 eish good Doctor, Love your work man.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    😊🙌🏽

  • @respectras5956
    @respectras59562 жыл бұрын

    Respect Big Up yoself Sizwe Small Axe!!!To fix the future know the past!!!Ayeye

  • @bethuelmasela5779
    @bethuelmasela57793 жыл бұрын

    This felt like a lecture but a fun one :)

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    😁

  • @ashwinmark1849
    @ashwinmark18493 жыл бұрын

    Congrats congrats Doc i hope the political parties reviews their agenda of making empty promises to people.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    We can only hope.

  • @sdcreatives7947
    @sdcreatives79472 жыл бұрын

    Wow your book, RECENTLY BOUGHT A COPY

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yay!

  • @providetriggersforevolutio3748
    @providetriggersforevolutio37482 жыл бұрын

    Sizwe, I am curious as to whether or not Joshua Maponga read your book and if you would interview him regarding his take on it.

  • @shentenaidoo8920
    @shentenaidoo89202 жыл бұрын

    the public life of the book is interwined with the life of our people who had to revolt to underscore their deprivation......

  • @nimrodjita851
    @nimrodjita8513 жыл бұрын

    I want buy the book but I have a feeling that says this is an academic book to impress intellectuals in academic space. But I will buy it nonetheless because it seems to be written from a genuine place to provoke thought & action.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I have tried to make it as accessible as possible. So I hope you will see that. 👊🏽

  • @carmennicholson2867
    @carmennicholson28673 жыл бұрын

    Are you talking about FLORIDA??

  • @Kingkulz
    @Kingkulz3 жыл бұрын

    Findings in my Information Systems #FeesMustFall paper, I ranked and evaluated tweet data. Using big data constructs I argue a need for more student-led inter-provincial organisations to better define decolonised power relations, at various higher-education stakeholder levels. Because a student activism culture and ICT environment built on distrust - does generate perceptions of ‘epistemic chaos’. This speaks to the technology inequality (digital divide) chapter in The New Apartheid in Mzansi and beyond Afrika.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very cool! Sounds like great work. 🙌🏽

  • @vuyanindzishe

    @vuyanindzishe

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where can one find your work?

  • @Kingkulz

    @Kingkulz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vuyanindzishe google scholar

  • @sorrinobodi6093
    @sorrinobodi60932 жыл бұрын

    YoYOyo! 😲

  • @o.ghanylo617
    @o.ghanylo6173 жыл бұрын

    Your sound quality is low. Please take care of it.

  • @shentenaidoo8920
    @shentenaidoo89202 жыл бұрын

    Steve Bikó trailblazer a thesis antithesis and synthesis that requires self awareness and conscious that will be the torches of s new society

  • @SixFootScream
    @SixFootScream3 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to getting my hands on your book. I am still convinced that the ANC is simply the new National Party. 🤷‍♂️

  • @malusintsele8031

    @malusintsele8031

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes they r

  • @SixFootScream

    @SixFootScream

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@malusintsele8031 Thank you.

  • @hasanx4637

    @hasanx4637

    3 жыл бұрын

    the white minority government is the same apartheid economy. THAT is SA's real problem, not the ANC.

  • @SixFootScream

    @SixFootScream

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hasanx4637 Wrong. Completely wrong

  • @traumaqueeen
    @traumaqueeen3 жыл бұрын

    Can we talk about black/white power dynamics in attempting to transform the country. From the ANC government attempting to negotiate with their oppressor (which is insane to think of how warped that power dynamic must have been), to how the black lives matter movement which started in the U.S had no ripple effect in S.A, even though the ripples were felt in numerous countries around the world. The white supremacy in the country and the saviour complex a lot of white people seem to have is an obstacle to getting over this hump. Julius Malema always talks about how South Africans love white people and I wonder if this love/fear/superiority complex gets in the way of black people and government demanding full transformation of spaces and the economy. Also, this mentality that if we upset white people, they will pack up their bags and leave the country in tatters... so we should try and make them feel as comfortable as possible.

  • @vuyanimaster2212

    @vuyanimaster2212

    3 жыл бұрын

    so truthful sister on your points above!

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    Important observation!

  • @whawha9016

    @whawha9016

    3 жыл бұрын

    It certainly forms part of the problem. Steve Biko and Tiro have written about it extensively 50 years ago, sometimes it's beneficial to go back to these writings. But there is also the power dynamic between a) the corporate giants (you have to take into account that the Oppenheimer - Anglo American cartel alone used to own a major chunk of the Apartheid economy and continue to be a major player) and b) the politically responsible leadership. In more stable countries there is better level playing field between these two major powers within society, ideally consensus and cooperation of both to the benefit of all (even though capitalists always put their own interests first ofc and will only leave the breadcrumbs for the masses, but in a economically highly functioning country the breadcrumbs are usually enough to satisfy the needs of the lower sociodemographic part of society). In SA the political leadership is almost entirely dependent on the goodwill of the corporate cartels, while these corporate cartels of course are driven by their minority (not necessarily in the racial sense) special interests. At the same time ANC leaders are still trying to portray themselves as this revolutionary, socialist force to appeal to the impoverished, which is completely disingenuous. One thing we fail to consider: running a complex, heterogenous country like South Africa is not an easy task. Cadre deployment based on how long someone has "served the movement" is not the right method of choosing government officials and decision makers. We have people in the highest offices of the country who can barely speak English at the level of a Swedish 6th grader. Yes, I understand it's not their first language, but then again in Sweden it's not even a national language at all (even though linguistically Swedish is closer to English). Unless we strictly select based on merit / intellectual capacity for the highest offices at the national, provincial and municipal level, there will be no progress. How come our smartest South Africans (Black, brown, yellow, pink) are all working in the corporate field ( if they haven't left to overseas) not in government? People tend to avoid talking about intellectual capacity and fitness for there positions, because it has a bad rep from racists and social darwinists using intelligence and IQ theories for their vile agenda, but we cannot fully reject the importance of cognitive capacity in proper decision making, just because it has been misused by bad people. Putting intelligent persons in these positions of decisionmaking will be for the greater benefit of all South Africans.

  • @kadkd6806

    @kadkd6806

    2 жыл бұрын

    So why is everyone quiet about this?

  • @amienfrankl7341
    @amienfrankl73413 жыл бұрын

    Do not make war against each other - produce Caramello Bear chocolates for the export market.

  • @jacquesdewet2661
    @jacquesdewet26613 жыл бұрын

    Thomas Sowell on Intellectuals and Society Host: When you refer to intellectuals in Intellectuals and Society, whom do you mean? Mr Sowell: I mean people who's end products are ideas. There are other people with great intelligence whose end products are things like the salk vaccine. Host: A research scientist is not necessarily an intellectual? Mr Sowell: That's right, because the engineer is judged by the end product which is not simply ideas. If he builds a building that collapses it doesn't matter how brilliant his ideas was, he's ruined. Conversely if an intellectual who's brilliant has an idea for rearranging society and that ends in disaster he pays no price at all. Host: I see.

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    3 жыл бұрын

    You and Thomas Sowell. 😂

  • @jacquesdewet2661

    @jacquesdewet2661

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@_SMWX - He's brilliant. He's discussed and debunked these social issues decades ago. If only people can learn from the past maybe we can build a better future?

  • @badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348

    @badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348

    3 жыл бұрын

    People with ideas pay a price for them all the time. Nelson Mandela paid 27 years for his ideas, but was prepared to give his life. Steve Biko paid the ultimate price for his black consciousness ideas. MLK was assassinated. Islamists have been tortured in USA black sites. Secularists are persecuted in certain Islamist states. Edward Snowden is right now in asylum in Russia, having fled his native USA after leaking information about breach of privacy by the government, in keeping with his ideas about transpacy, free speech and democracy. Even Hitler took his own life when his ideas collapsed all around him -- ideas which subsequently became the definition of political evil in the 20th and 21st centuries. And scientific research can definitely count as a labour of ideas, or at least it's implications can function that way. To the point where they pay a cost for it, and for speaking out about it, if it threatens certain industries. Like the story of John Yudkin, who's reputation was destroyed and his career ruined, despite ultimately being right that sugar, more so than fat, is a serious danger to our health.

  • @dissdad8744

    @dissdad8744

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacquesdewet2661 Sowell debunked "these social issues"? Which exact "social issues" did he debunk? Can "social issues" even be debunked? Your statement doesn't make sense, unless you have no understanding of the English language and actually mean something totally different. It's tiresome to have to interact with descendants of the lower echelons of medieval European society when you happen to be young, gifted and Black.

  • @jacquesdewet2661

    @jacquesdewet2661

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dissdad8744 - Young, gifted and black... 😂😂 You got no clue who Thomas Sowell is.😂😂

  • @shentenaidoo8920
    @shentenaidoo89202 жыл бұрын

    the demobilization of the MDM and the rejection of RDP project left us vulnerable to counterattack by conservative forces.......

  • @celimbokazi5811
    @celimbokazi58113 жыл бұрын

    I have come to the conclusion that some our problems are technological, for example somebody needs to clean the toilets or pick oranges at a farm. apartheid determined that the most lowly jobs were and still are for black natives. Now imagine a society where robots pick fruit and even clean toilets. and people do jobs such as the many phycologists that should in every school but are not, to care for mental health, sports coaches and so forth.

  • @badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348

    @badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348

    3 жыл бұрын

    Only if the people who those robots replace aren't disenfranchised out of jobs -- because then you will have the opportunistic, political instability we had with the looting, but on a much more regular basis. Or those robots will be stolen, stripped and sold for parts. And if those robots are owned by a few private companies, then it will just be yet another mechanism by which money funnels up to the fewest hands, not the widest, thus preserving the Apartheid-style economic landscape.

  • @celimbokazi5811

    @celimbokazi5811

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348 I get your point, that's why i mention jobs, such a phychologist, a nurse at every school. there so many jobs to do that are not being done now, because of essential but demeaning lowly paid jobs. and we have to introduce universal basic income

  • @badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348

    @badnoisebebopblackoutnetwo3348

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@celimbokazi5811 If that's the case then I submit our problems are more a matter of economic policy and practice than technological. After all, by your own tacit admission, it's the economic discipline that has to grant an allowance to the technological domain, and not the other way around, if this is to be sustainable.

  • @marindadegersigny1243

    @marindadegersigny1243

    3 жыл бұрын

    There is no such thing as a LOWLY job. Cleaning up your environment and gathering food is the responsibility of each individual. The problem us that the elites has turned everyday life tasks into labour to be exploited for profit. People are forced to work to survive.

  • @celimbokazi5811

    @celimbokazi5811

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marindadegersigny1243 even if its essential its looked upon with contempt. because no one wants to clean up after other peoples mess. my point was if robots could do this tasks, they would be no need to exploit people. UBI would be extended to all.

  • @yandisamtanyana8004
    @yandisamtanyana80042 жыл бұрын

    Takealot has ran out of stock :(

  • @_SMWX

    @_SMWX

    2 жыл бұрын

    See link in description to get from my website.

  • @yandisamtanyana8004

    @yandisamtanyana8004

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@_SMWX Got it thanks

  • @tthex6484
    @tthex64843 жыл бұрын

    This one was boring Sizwe....I guess its too academic for some of us. We don't know much about 'spatial formation'

  • @oratilerakgekola9961

    @oratilerakgekola9961

    3 жыл бұрын

    Re-read it. Try reading it 4 to 5 times.

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