The Necessity to Struggle / The Futility of Effort

In which John recalls an afternoon at the airport.
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  • @joellebrooke42
    @joellebrooke425 жыл бұрын

    John, your John Green is showing. Don't stop

  • @WhySoSquid

    @WhySoSquid

    5 жыл бұрын

    ++++

  • @ethan-loves

    @ethan-loves

    5 жыл бұрын

    ++

  • @fraidarahbaran6076

    @fraidarahbaran6076

    5 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @cynthialivingston4849

    @cynthialivingston4849

    5 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @thelastcube.

    @thelastcube.

    5 жыл бұрын

    ++

  • @peterlopinto
    @peterlopinto5 жыл бұрын

    "...but we don't live in the grand scheme of things" is inspiring. I think I'll adopt it as a mantra the next time I'm experiencing this thought spiral. Thanks John

  • @1234kalmar

    @1234kalmar

    5 жыл бұрын

    I made that realization a few years ago, and it helped so much. The universe is big and indifferent towards us! Well, then why should *I* care about *It*. Its sun's might burn for a billion years. Cool. I made a friend laugh yesterday. That's what I care about.

  • @peterlopinto

    @peterlopinto

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@1234kalmar +1 I love that. I think for me the popularized "live in the moment" idea can feel like an overwhelming mission whereas the reassurance that we are creatures of this moment is a truth that keeps me grounded

  • @AshKetchum442

    @AshKetchum442

    5 жыл бұрын

    Something that really helped me out of my existential depression is that if nothing really matters why should i waste my time thinking about how pointless it all is? Who decided it was pointless? Im here for only so long, why shouldnt i enjoy it!

  • @ellw7830

    @ellw7830

    5 жыл бұрын

    I feel constantly caught between wanting to do something big enough to alter the grand scheme of things and the crushing realization that I cannot possibly do anything big enough to alter the grand scheme of things... at least not yet. This quote is definetely something that might help me, and it's similar to one I need to remember more often; "When I was young and free and my imagination had no limits I dreamed of changing the world. As I grew older and wiser and realized the world would not change, I shortened my sights somewhat, and decided to change only my country; but it too seemed immovable. As I grew into my twilight years, I settled on changing only my family and those closest to me--but alas they would have none of it. Now I lay on my deathbed and I suddenly realize that if I had only changed myself first, then by example I could perhaps have changed my family, and from their inspiration and encouragement to me I would have been better able to help my country and from there I may even have been able to change the world." (Taken from the tomb of a Bishop in Westminster Abbey 1100 A.D

  • @peterlopinto

    @peterlopinto

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ellw7830 Wow that's a lovely quote. It reminds me of the Michael Jackson song Man in the Mirror, where he also comments on improving the world by improving himself.

  • @justina7639
    @justina76395 жыл бұрын

    John, this reminded me of something else you once said: I mean, sure, the world is going to end and Venice will sink under the sea, but not yet.

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Once I was in an art gallery and I saw a young woman who had the words "Not Today" written on the inside of her wrists, and I have often thought that if I ever got a real tattoo, that'd be it. Not today. Not yet. -John

  • @emilymartin5418

    @emilymartin5418

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vlogbrothers I'm thinking of getting a tattoo of a phrase I try to keep in mind: "This doesn't define me." In my own handwriting, on the inside of my arm, with real ink. I've wanted it for a couple of years now, so I feel like I wouldn't regret it. Thank you for making and sharing this video, and so many others. I hope you have a wonderful day today.

  • @yankonapc

    @yankonapc

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vlogbrothers Hey mate, I don't want to rain on you but I think that phrase in that location is a bit heavier than you present it to be, and flags up a bit more than a philosophical existential crisis. You be careful out there. This sort of spiral thinking can be dangerous and difficult to pull out of. Beyond not yet, how about not ever?

  • @Daniel.Walker

    @Daniel.Walker

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@yankonapc Peter Rollins has some interesting writing and recordings on dialectical logic and it's connection to grace narratives! For some there are healthy ways to look into that spiral, and through that painful experience find some solace. Rather than avoidance for survival (an experience that is valid as heck), there's a planned exposure, a diving deep, a recognition of the pain that is at the crux of those individuals' survival and experience of life. Not speaking for John, or anyone else, but there's a bit of truth for me right now in my life that resonates with the idea behind these tattoo ideas! (He has a podcast with Eliott Morgan called the Fundamentalists and you should check it out if you like internet things and also discussions of existential dread, psychology, and societal/non-theistic theology!)

  • @travisscavoni369

    @travisscavoni369

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vlogbrothers kinda like Project Semicolon

  • @OliverHatched
    @OliverHatched5 жыл бұрын

    I'm disabled by mental illness, and one of the most useful things I learned in therapy is something you mentioned in this video: thought patterns that make you feel worse are useless, no matter how true they are. I've learned to redirect my thoughts away from the despair and nihilism, and toward the present moment. Doing this has provided me with more relief from my depression than anything else has.

  • @airwolfguy

    @airwolfguy

    5 жыл бұрын

    The previous comment was one of three that I made in rapid succession before getting to know your channel better. I think I get it now. I'm sorry about what happened to you. Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help.

  • @aleksandraa5146

    @aleksandraa5146

    5 жыл бұрын

    I can relate to this but wonder how do you manage to redirect those thoughts? If you wouldn't mind sharing that is. I also struggle with derealisation, however, so it is harder to focus on the present too... I am really glad that it has helped you though!

  • @nidhiphal2867

    @nidhiphal2867

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aleksandraa5146 Try to practise noting. It's a mindfulness technique that allows you to step out of the thought spiral and just stay. Also you can try nothing 3 sounds, 3 objects and 3 odors in the present moment, so you step out of your busy mind

  • @moiradarling97
    @moiradarling975 жыл бұрын

    This video is exactly how I think. I go from “God I love sitting at the beach and watching the waves.” To “Its sad that I have no idea how much longer I have to enjoy this world.”

  • @pumpkinomom4446

    @pumpkinomom4446

    5 жыл бұрын

    Moira H Hi fellow Moira! We have the same Name! ❤

  • @moiradarling97

    @moiradarling97

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pumpkinomo M yesss, it’s very rare!

  • @mandoman69

    @mandoman69

    5 жыл бұрын

    Then back to "i really love starring at those waves"

  • @smhill818

    @smhill818

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's strange to think of, but that future version of you that can no longer enjoy this world will actually not be you at all, because you will no longer exist-and therefore, being nonexistent, you won't be able to feel sad about being unable to enjoy the world. From your own perspective, you can enjoy the world right up until the end of time, because your perception of time (among other things) will end once your life ends. I dunno, I find some odd solace in that. It kind of helps me stop feeling sad and get back to enjoying.

  • @beccabonham8137
    @beccabonham81375 жыл бұрын

    “we don’t live in the grand scheme of things, we live here, in the day to day” i really needed to hear that. (and this whole video in general) thanks john!

  • @mjschul

    @mjschul

    5 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @ivanna6608

    @ivanna6608

    5 жыл бұрын

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  • @benypenaloza3182

    @benypenaloza3182

    5 жыл бұрын

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  • @Michelle-je9jk

    @Michelle-je9jk

    5 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @Jrv1s
    @Jrv1s5 жыл бұрын

    Friends and soft pretzels are the meaning of life.

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think there's a good case to be made for this. -John

  • @MsFredWeasley

    @MsFredWeasley

    5 жыл бұрын

    Especially if you are from Philadelphia.

  • @mvwinf

    @mvwinf

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rebecca Bunch?

  • @hardboard82

    @hardboard82

    5 жыл бұрын

    Both are great aspects of life that bring us happiness. But if everything is meaningless, should happiness be our top priority?

  • @elderlyoogway

    @elderlyoogway

    5 жыл бұрын

    Laurin Schmidt that depends, you decide. There’s countless cases to be made for happiness, but it doesn’t mean it is the right one. It’s just that humans like to self-justify their natural inclinations.

  • @pandapan8281
    @pandapan82815 жыл бұрын

    It’s like the starfish story. A beach is full of starfish and a boy is throwing them back in the ocean. A guy tells him it is useless that there is too many starfish. The boy throws another and says it matters to that one. It really doesn’t matter how many people you knew or helped. It just matters that you helped one person and their life was better because of you. Cause in the grand scheme of things no one is more important than anyone else. We just have to try and make a difference for who is around now.

  • @MattPalka

    @MattPalka

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love that story SO MUCH

  • @amyblueskyirl16

    @amyblueskyirl16

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ha that's almost exactly what I said! lol Love is the best remedy for existential angst imo :D

  • @MattPalka

    @MattPalka

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@amyblueskyirl16 Agreed. While one person is criticizing whether or not something is working, there are real people doing the actual work that matters. We can each help so much in even the smallest of ways

  • @killerwolfxx7
    @killerwolfxx75 жыл бұрын

    For like 9 years John has been laying down the philosophical knowledge on me, That or giraffe sex

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    My two great areas of interest. -John

  • @mariewikiwaka3851

    @mariewikiwaka3851

    5 жыл бұрын

    vlogbrothers Don’t forget presidents and last words. Sometimes both simultaneously.

  • @clairehirano5889

    @clairehirano5889

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vlogbrothers I think you meant fields of expertise *insert collage of grassy fields here*

  • @MichaelTavares

    @MichaelTavares

    5 жыл бұрын

    People who love giraffes who love giraffes

  • @thedavescloop
    @thedavescloop5 жыл бұрын

    This is me when I fold laundry.

  • @courtneymarcon349

    @courtneymarcon349

    5 жыл бұрын

    Dorvid for me it’s ironing

  • @annariordan2801

    @annariordan2801

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes!!

  • @ahmedelmogi5113

    @ahmedelmogi5113

    5 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @ampz1466

    @ampz1466

    5 жыл бұрын

    This is why my laundry takes weeks to get folded.

  • @courtneymarcon349

    @courtneymarcon349

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ampz14 From now on my excuse for not folding and ironing laundry will be that if I do it, I might have an existential crisis.

  • @emmachambers4037
    @emmachambers40373 жыл бұрын

    If you could describe John Green in one phrase: 'AND THEN, I started to think some more'. I love it

  • @eli88958
    @eli889585 жыл бұрын

    Stop John, I can't got into an existential crisis right before midterms

  • @squeeerle

    @squeeerle

    5 жыл бұрын

    It will be ok, you've got this.

  • @ellw7830

    @ellw7830

    5 жыл бұрын

    your profile picture looks like it's verbalizing your comment

  • @squeeerle

    @squeeerle

    5 жыл бұрын

    So how did exams go?

  • @benas_st

    @benas_st

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@squeeerle it's been 2 years, I think it wasn't good

  • @squeeerle

    @squeeerle

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@benas_st bummer! Well, at least that class is long over.

  • @mossboy2564
    @mossboy25645 жыл бұрын

    “Brains are so weird” God, I *felt* that

  • @gitoshrisen7687

    @gitoshrisen7687

    5 жыл бұрын

    literally!!

  • @cheyennemarie7075
    @cheyennemarie70755 жыл бұрын

    Gee thanks, John. I was about due for an existential crisis👍🏾

  • @intheclouds4453

    @intheclouds4453

    5 жыл бұрын

    I have existential thoughts all the time it's getting ridiculous and scary

  • @emilymartin5418

    @emilymartin5418

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@intheclouds4453 I hope you have or find someone you can talk to when it gets scary, because sharing helps so much. If nothing else, or if you prefer, there are plenty of Nerdfighters and beautiful Internet strangers ready to listen.

  • @fraidarahbaran6076

    @fraidarahbaran6076

    5 жыл бұрын

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  • @ToyKeeper

    @ToyKeeper

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah... I came here hoping John had motivational insights into why I should do that thing on my todo list instead of mindlessly clicking through videos while time burns away one more page in the short book of my life. But this video didn't really help. Maybe instead I can extract an answer from 8 hours of osmosis with my pillow.

  • @nickiaconis

    @nickiaconis

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ToyKeeper if nothing else, hopefully you'll feel rested after that

  • @TheOtherDibbler
    @TheOtherDibbler5 жыл бұрын

    The comment about everything we own and love eventually becoming landfill and ceasing to matter made me think of an experience I had a couple of years ago. At a medieval recreation event I got to hold a genuine medieval pot that had been discovered in an archaeological excavation. It wasn't a beautiful fabulous thing, it was roughly made, created to be used and discarded, yet it had survived hundreds of years. Preserved in the clay was a fingerprint. A person whose name and face have long been forgotten once made an unimportant thing, and left the most personal and unique of all marks on it, and hundreds of years later I held it in my hand and placed my finger where theirs had been. And maybe that's nothing much, when considered on a universal time-scale, but it FEELS pretty big, and it makes me wonder what 'meaningless' everyday items from our own lives will be someone's treasure one day.

  • @lillyhill6093

    @lillyhill6093

    3 жыл бұрын

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  • @rush8280

    @rush8280

    3 жыл бұрын

    This is one of the coolest KZread comments I've ever read

  • @WouldntULikeToKnow.

    @WouldntULikeToKnow.

    3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who studied art history: YES, YOU GET IT

  • @saniyapaliwal1454

    @saniyapaliwal1454

    3 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @UnwarrenD

    @UnwarrenD

    Жыл бұрын

    This is a genuinely beautiful comment that stood out to me out a bleak and cloudy Sunday afternoon.

  • @thejesuschrist
    @thejesuschrist5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing!

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your support, Jesus. -John

  • @benjaminlquinlan8702

    @benjaminlquinlan8702

    5 жыл бұрын

    Jesus Christ my man!!!!

  • @notquiteneutral2590

    @notquiteneutral2590

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ayo Jesus, what’s up?

  • @benjaminlquinlan8702

    @benjaminlquinlan8702

    5 жыл бұрын

    He's up ... And to the right hand side.

  • @DragonsOfDream

    @DragonsOfDream

    5 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @Carina5707
    @Carina57075 жыл бұрын

    In the grand scheme of things Even the greatest of kings Are just little hands Building castles out of sand. Edit: Wow thanks for the love, guys. I make poetry videos in case you care. And if you want to quote me somewhere, my name is Julie Merson. Thank you ^^

  • @Carina5707

    @Carina5707

    5 жыл бұрын

    redmeetingwhite my brain lol

  • @Carina5707

    @Carina5707

    5 жыл бұрын

    redmeetingwhite it IS finished lol. I think it says all it needs to say in a single verse tbh

  • @fraidarahbaran6076

    @fraidarahbaran6076

    5 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @tsumni3421

    @tsumni3421

    5 жыл бұрын

    That is beautiful in ways that I can't put to words

  • @cynthialivingston4849

    @cynthialivingston4849

    5 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful words, @Juice.

  • @Mehrnooshb
    @Mehrnooshb5 жыл бұрын

    Added to my “Favorite Vlogbrothers” playlist.

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awww thanks! :) -John

  • @gitoshrisen7687

    @gitoshrisen7687

    5 жыл бұрын

    +

  • @pessimistkai5569

    @pessimistkai5569

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can you share your playlist... Please

  • @bicooo1
    @bicooo15 жыл бұрын

    This video really spoke to me. I love that you said 'this is the Hunger Games and I am a resident of the Capitol' because I have that thought at times. People in third world countries that are dying of famine would be disgusted by the way we use food, and the way we use so many things in ways that aren't right. When I read the Hunger Games I thought that surely if I lived in the Capitol I would do everything to help the other districts, yet in real life I'm mostly worrying about my own struggles.

  • @imsocorkyy
    @imsocorkyy5 жыл бұрын

    “Isn’t it absurd how temporary we are despite all our efforts to feel permanent?” The kind of questions that keep me up at night. It gives me way too much anxiety to think of how fragile our lives really are.

  • @KarolaTea
    @KarolaTea5 жыл бұрын

    now I want a soft pretzel...

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same. -John

  • @flashsurfing

    @flashsurfing

    5 жыл бұрын

    The most Midwest of comments indeed

  • @KarolaTea

    @KarolaTea

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'll... take that as a compliment ^^

  • @brucefrizzell4221

    @brucefrizzell4221

    5 жыл бұрын

    Double Bourbon , please . Great video .

  • @niffler09

    @niffler09

    5 жыл бұрын

    with butter on it nomm

  • @meirihareven5092
    @meirihareven50925 жыл бұрын

    Or as Camus put it: "One must imagine Sisyphus happy."

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Or at the least one must imagine Sisyphus productive. -John

  • @insu_na

    @insu_na

    5 жыл бұрын

    And one must imagine Sisyphus immortal. That's my key takeaway from this

  • @SacchieILU

    @SacchieILU

    5 жыл бұрын

    I came hear to read or post this exact comment. Effort is, in itself, rewarding. It is not my successes that give me meaning, but my trials and attempts to overcome.

  • @Richard_Jones

    @Richard_Jones

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ah Camus, fine philosopher and halfway decent goalkeeper. If he weren't dead he could play for AFC Wimbledon.

  • @ConBadger
    @ConBadger5 жыл бұрын

    "...but we don't *live in* the grand scheme of things, we live *here*, in the day to day, at gate A7 on an early Wednesday afternoon." I have a lot of those same thoughts of, nothing really matters. But that brought me back to the here and now. Helped to make things a bit clearer. Really good line, thank you.

  • @kieran163
    @kieran1633 жыл бұрын

    “maybe nothing matters in the grand scheme of things, but we don’t live in the grand scheme of things, we live here.” damn, john.

  • @vickylikesthis
    @vickylikesthis5 жыл бұрын

    "It's not so much which of these ways of looking at the world is true. It's which of these ways of looking at the world is productive". This is so important, and yet I always forgot this.

  • @vickylikesthis

    @vickylikesthis

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm an academic and a Hufflepuff. True vs Helpful is a constant tension!

  • @Amy-nz6sm
    @Amy-nz6sm5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for putting my thoughts into a more manageable idea this actually just helped me in my current situation 🤔👍🏼

  • @saritacheeks

    @saritacheeks

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alice Samesies!! John is so good at doing this! :D

  • @albinsandin7835

    @albinsandin7835

    5 жыл бұрын

    The number one guy for the job

  • @nicolem8754

    @nicolem8754

    5 жыл бұрын

    me too!!

  • @CodyRushDriving
    @CodyRushDriving5 жыл бұрын

    A thing is not beautiful because it lasts. We are a means by which the universe can experience and know itself.

  • @NinuRenee

    @NinuRenee

    5 жыл бұрын

    The latter is incorrect, we are merely means to an end for the universe and mother natures game of evolution. We are only reciting what the universe has already achieved.

  • @blarblablarblar
    @blarblablarblar5 жыл бұрын

    I see it's time for our semiannual existential crisis

  • @luddity

    @luddity

    3 жыл бұрын

    carb withdrawal is pitiful

  • @zoozoozee
    @zoozoozee5 жыл бұрын

    Unrelated but my AP world history teacher assigns us your crash course world history videos! You're the only one that makes it interesting for me

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's great to hear. Please thank your teacher for me. (Also, we've got new crash course history vids coming soon.) -John

  • @swampfox1007

    @swampfox1007

    5 жыл бұрын

    My humanities college course does the same. Just watched the video covering the Greeks.

  • @amberbydreamsart5467

    @amberbydreamsart5467

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vlogbrothers I remember when crash course world history first came out, it was not long after I'd taken my AP World History test and I was absolutely struck by how similar the curriculum was. I'm so glad teachers and students are using it as a tool now! I was definitely a bit jealous I didn't have the videos to help me study back in the day

  • @seanplayscl

    @seanplayscl

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same! I'm always surprised at how fast john is talking about history stuff compared to the speed of stuff such as this video

  • @Carina5707
    @Carina57075 жыл бұрын

    Nerdfighters are a lovely bunch, so here’s a poem I wrote once. Cheers. Infinity We’re here to live We’re here to die So who do you want By your side Is it him Is it her Or just the company Of a written word Why do we love Why are we here Why do I panic In the shadow Of such insignificant fears? It’s been six months How strange It’s been ten years What even is change At least none that I can feel Is any of this Even real Look in the mirror Look into your eyes Is it you Or a haphazard disguise Do these tears taste of salt Or is it the flavor Of all your faults Blotched cheekbones Bobby pins Sunrise whispers And burnt skin Mugs and spoons A little paint Is my life unremarkable Or just quaint Is there a difference Who even cares When feelings aren’t much more Than uninvited exhales? Edit: Wow thanks for the love, guys. I make poetry videos in case you care. And if you want to quote me somewhere, my name is Julie Merson. Thank you ^^

  • @mini1834

    @mini1834

    5 жыл бұрын

    Juce wow remarkable poem! :)

  • @literatouristin

    @literatouristin

    5 жыл бұрын

    I screenshotted this to read it over and over again.

  • @Jemini4228

    @Jemini4228

    5 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work. Well done :)

  • @geovanniangelica8532

    @geovanniangelica8532

    5 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fantastic!!

  • @naomilamont3277

    @naomilamont3277

    5 жыл бұрын

    I loved the last six lines especially. Keep up the good work ☺

  • @katherinesebeck3787
    @katherinesebeck37873 жыл бұрын

    The moment of waiting at an airport gate is bizarrely distant only 2 years later.

  • @pamelarojas7754
    @pamelarojas77545 жыл бұрын

    I feel very identified with your way of thinking. Thank you for always making the best content, making me think and laugh, always improving my mood as I gain more knowledge and perspectives. As an aspiring writer, you truly are an inspiration to me ❤ Thanks all the way from Costa Rica

  • @Edwahlq
    @Edwahlq5 жыл бұрын

    I love that thought... we don't live in the grand scheme of things. It's a good check on perspective.

  • @decaf4me2
    @decaf4me25 жыл бұрын

    Superb, John. I loved every word. As always, thx for sharing. No matter how futile it may seem, your words make a difference now...and probably for some time to come. Cheers!

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Brent. Really appreciate the kind words. -John

  • @StridentEclipse
    @StridentEclipse5 жыл бұрын

    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

  • @lillyhill6093

    @lillyhill6093

    3 жыл бұрын

    +++

  • @catalyst1738
    @catalyst17385 жыл бұрын

    THE ART TO STOP AND SEE THE WORLD FOR A WHILE

  • @c.omalley
    @c.omalley5 жыл бұрын

    i’m just after getting rejected from one of my first choices of uni and i must say, this video is strangely comforting. thanks, john ❤️

  • @6023barath

    @6023barath

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to hear that, best of luck!! :)

  • @amaliawilde8978
    @amaliawilde89785 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, John. I needed this today.

  • @lou2850

    @lou2850

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same my dude, same

  • @LouisMoga

    @LouisMoga

    5 жыл бұрын

    This.

  • @jessicamcglone5715

    @jessicamcglone5715

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sending love!

  • @thelastcube.
    @thelastcube.5 жыл бұрын

    Another way of your "which way is productive" would be what's the alternative. Like, you can either sit like a rut in despair and do nothing or you could try to fix the problem to as much as you can

  • @tausiatahsin3240
    @tausiatahsin32405 жыл бұрын

    I'd know you wrote TFIOS even if I didn't know it

  • @1Deejay7
    @1Deejay75 жыл бұрын

    I feel the pointless and mundane effort to make my bed in the morning.

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Making the bed is such an interesting activity to me. I might write an episode of the anthropocene reviewed about it. -John

  • @Halosty45

    @Halosty45

    5 жыл бұрын

    My parents didn't bother making my sister and I keep our rooms spotless or our beds made. All they required was we have clear, clutter-free paths to the bed/closet/etc. I never make the bed... because then I would have to specifically un-make it to go to sleep. I pull out the covers and wrap them around me like a sleeping bag.

  • @ladyalfhildrforestofvioletmist

    @ladyalfhildrforestofvioletmist

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I sort of reverse make the bed when I'm going to bed at night. In the morning I generally leave a blanket tangle behind me, and then at night I straighten it out so that it all lays nicely on top of me. If I have people coming over, I throw the blankets over the pile of clothes on the side of my bed and try to make everything as level as possible, but otherwise I agree there's no real reason to make the bed.

  • @alaska7766
    @alaska77665 жыл бұрын

    John I would highly recommend you read/reread Ecclesiastes. It is entirely about striking the balance between everything under the sun being meaningless in the grand scheme of things but also finding meaning in the day to day. I think it would really encourage you.

  • @kaiyakershaw1028

    @kaiyakershaw1028

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ecclesiastes is exactly where my brain went! In a newer translation, the Common English Bible, "all is pointlessness under the sun" is a thematic refrain. Sometimes I'm in an "all is pointlessness" mood, but then I remember that God also made everything good in it's time (chapter 3) and intended us to enjoy our lives.

  • @besma2627
    @besma26275 жыл бұрын

    "The absurd arises from the confrontation between the human call and the unreasonable silence of the world" -Albert Camus

  • @brianmorton9419
    @brianmorton94193 жыл бұрын

    We DO find it odd that in 2019 we went to crowded airports

  • @karissalago4451
    @karissalago44515 жыл бұрын

    "I'm never more than a couple minutes of thinking away from abject nihilistic despair" OMG I've never related to anything more than this

  • @pumpkinomom4446
    @pumpkinomom44465 жыл бұрын

    Me: This video is more a piece of poetry that "just a youtube video"... Also Me: This is why John Green is a writer! *mindblown*

  • @japita1578
    @japita15785 жыл бұрын

    It reminded me of the quote "If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do."

  • @abelsanchez2070

    @abelsanchez2070

    4 жыл бұрын

    Angel, love that show so much

  • @tiffanyhoffman4830
    @tiffanyhoffman48305 жыл бұрын

    Relating so much to your thought patterns and I can't even tell you how much I needed this reminder right now. Blind optimism spouted out by well-meaning loved ones honestly just leaves me with an increased sense of frustration and panic and anxiety, pushing me deeper into depression and nihilism. What I need is that reminder that there is a much finer line than we think between that darkness and a strange sense of hope and freedom and joy - the honest kind that can see the world as it is, both eyes open, and embrace it. For me the way out of that dark mental space isn't up from it but out through it - to the other side. Thanks, John.

  • @JenHurler
    @JenHurler5 жыл бұрын

    So freaking good. Thanks, John. You always articulate the feelings. You should be a writer.

  • @alishak6073

    @alishak6073

    5 жыл бұрын

    He is a writer. ??

  • @saimalishahid1406

    @saimalishahid1406

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alishak6073 he is, an amazing one at that. He wrote the fault in our stars.

  • @matttucker3
    @matttucker35 жыл бұрын

    Good morning John it’s Tuesday I really enjoyed the video and found it incredibly insightful and inspiring thanks. John, I’ll see you on next Tuesday

  • @Cynita
    @CynitaАй бұрын

    This man is a walking poem and it's absolutely beautiful

  • @noas3949
    @noas39495 жыл бұрын

    I've struggled with depression and mild suicidal ideation since I was 12 and goddamn. this spoke to me. I literally burst into tears after the video ended I can't even put into words what this meant to me, hearing someone I look up to so much putting into words thoughts I can barely have the mental capacity comprehend much less analyze. And to hear you think the same thoughts, and with the same logic turn it into something hopeful...I don't even know what to say. The tears speak for themselves.

  • @vitormelomedeiros
    @vitormelomedeiros5 жыл бұрын

    But yeah, our clothing will look SUPER weird in 50 years, I mean, LOOK AT IT!

  • @portentouslad5051

    @portentouslad5051

    5 жыл бұрын

    They already look pretty weird to me. Does that mean I'm getting old?

  • @SrValeriolete

    @SrValeriolete

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't really care about my clothes

  • @hanabarrett6046

    @hanabarrett6046

    5 жыл бұрын

    The interesting thing to me is that people who just wear whatever still wear way different things in different times. Like the time we live changes how we do everything.

  • @courtneymarcon349
    @courtneymarcon3495 жыл бұрын

    For some reason these thoughts you shared particularly towards the end, immediately made me think of the poem “A Brave and Startling Truth” by Maya Angelou. One of my favourites.

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Great poem! -John

  • @helengreatrex242

    @helengreatrex242

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Your comment led me to hear this poem for the first time. It's fantastic :)

  • @yellowstone3587

    @yellowstone3587

    5 жыл бұрын

    Indeed.

  • @laurak8240

    @laurak8240

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, a really meaningful poem.

  • @gabrielaramos3975
    @gabrielaramos39754 жыл бұрын

    I remembered feeling seen by your words when this video came out about a year ago. It's funny how we are living the tomorrow that rendered that yesterday meaningless so soon. I might find this video even more important today.

  • @cjspurg
    @cjspurg5 жыл бұрын

    This was wonderful, like a weight was lifted and I felt more heard just by hearing someone else say this aloud. Thank you, John.

  • @kalikevin432
    @kalikevin4325 жыл бұрын

    Videos like this remind me I'm not the only one to think about how futile our brief existence is. Yet recently I've started to be more present in the now,which is making my futile existence more enjoyable

  • @hardboard82

    @hardboard82

    5 жыл бұрын

    KaliKevin I’d love to discuss this. What is the point of making a futile existence more enjoyable? In a meaningless world, do you think joy/happiness should be each person’s top priority?

  • @kalikevin432

    @kalikevin432

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@hardboard82 I think everyone has a different top priority. Mine is not happiness but I will find it when I can through activities that bring it out. I feel like if you don't try to have some fun along the way, your life might turn out boring and feel meaningless from your lack of effort to do anything.

  • @xxkhaliyxxxox3553
    @xxkhaliyxxxox35535 жыл бұрын

    Love your video, always gives me something to think about.

  • @caseyhamm4292
    @caseyhamm4292 Жыл бұрын

    an exhaustive list of people who can make me laugh and cry simultaneously: 1) john green, 2) markus zusak, and 3) my mother

  • @turtleking7772
    @turtleking77725 жыл бұрын

    I may have downloaded the audio from this

  • @tavanthomas7118

    @tavanthomas7118

    4 жыл бұрын

    TurtleKing777 same here !

  • @meganbockelman9050
    @meganbockelman90505 жыл бұрын

    "But then I started to think some more" perfect description of my brain most of the time 😅 Edit: Also "brains are so weird" Yes like what the heck? Lol

  • @camelopardalis84

    @camelopardalis84

    5 жыл бұрын

    Everybody's brain is weird. So dumb and malfunctioning while at the same time so freakishly versatile and full of potential.

  • @afreennaaz7626

    @afreennaaz7626

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi fren ||-//

  • @meganbockelman9050

    @meganbockelman9050

    5 жыл бұрын

    Afreen Naaz Hello fren!! 😊 ||-//

  • @afreennaaz7626

    @afreennaaz7626

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@meganbockelman9050 cool to find a Nerdfighter clique member, maybe we can find eachother on twitter

  • @meganbockelman9050

    @meganbockelman9050

    5 жыл бұрын

    Afreen Naaz absolutely! I actually have two twitter accounts... 😂 @dmajumpsuit is my tøp stan account and @meganbockelman is my personal account (where I occasionally RT vlogbrothers stuff too!) 😄

  • @trinkab
    @trinkab5 жыл бұрын

    John, once again you have turned a fleeting thought into a 4 minute "GAAAAAAAHHHH!"

  • @MattPalka
    @MattPalka5 жыл бұрын

    Every time I'm in an airport, I think "No one here right now will ever be in the room with the same people ever again." over and over. I did lots of this on my way to VidCon:London and....DO YOU REALIZE WE CAN FLY?!?! I'll never get over it. Hurdling through the sky in a giant air conditioned metal thing in an atmospheric location where humans shouldn't have access to. I was eye level with the Big Dipper out an airplane window seeing the sunrise. I feel like a kid every time I travel. And that generosity and curiosity and gratitude fuels me and feels productive. I don't ever want to lose that vulnerability to deeply engage with Now. Thanks for the reminder, John.

  • @d0fabur5st82
    @d0fabur5st8211 ай бұрын

    This video has seared itself into my very core. 4 years later I come back and it still resonates with me

  • @viviantompkins7925
    @viviantompkins79255 жыл бұрын

    "We struggle on in the hopes of the lives to come and of the worlds to come" Nicene creed reference? (I look forward to the life of the world to come). Beautiful regardless! :)

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, Nicene Creed reference. -John

  • @viviantompkins7925

    @viviantompkins7925

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yay! :) I feel like a good Episcopalian for catching that, lol. And thanks for the reply, it made my day! :D

  • @gabby4558
    @gabby45585 жыл бұрын

    At least I'm not the only one who thinks "okay everybody in this room will be dead at one point". Oh, and "at one point, no one in this room existed". We exist for such a short time. It really puts things into perspective

  • @amberallen7809
    @amberallen78095 жыл бұрын

    I have had almost this exact same thought spiral on more than one occasion, and at least once in an airport. I've been struggling with it a lot lately. Thanks for reminding me about the other side of it. I was also just reminded of when I showed some friends in Glasgow a book that I found from the late 1800's that was a version of the history of the city that people were telling each other at that time, as well as the who's who and gossip of the day. My friend immediately took it and said, "ooh, let's read all the gossip about dead people nobody knows or cares about anymore!" and did a dramatic reading of an entry. Everyone scolded him a bit, but he immediately said, "it's true. And they don't know. But we're here now, so why not have some fun with it?" That moment had a weird sense of balance for me.

  • @anikaarrington5614
    @anikaarrington56145 жыл бұрын

    Did a recent stint in a behavioral health facility and I am catching up on my KZread. As the previous sentence implies, "the human brain is weird," and one of the dangers of nihilistic despair is that if nothing matters then neither do I as a person. It took removing myself from my home, my responsibilities, my comforts, in short, my little corner of the world to confront the distortions that led me to that belief and the subsequent willingness to end my own life. Living in the present, tackling the improvement of things within our sphere of influence, enjoying that which is enjoyable without putting the burden of constant enjoyment on either that thing or on ourselves is the only way for deep thinkers to conquer the constant threat of the thought spiral and its very real world consequences. Thank you for sharing, John.

  • @nebulouskoala9058
    @nebulouskoala90585 жыл бұрын

    This is a good video :) let's put in some work, people!

  • @edixon2225
    @edixon22255 жыл бұрын

    I love listening to your ideas and thoughts. You always put things in perspective. Right now sucks for me because of an idiotic college professor, but even in the grand scheme of my lifetime, it is a minor speed bump on a long road of adventures.

  • @allieconzola
    @allieconzola5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this John. I've been feeling a ton of existential dread lately. It's strangely comforting to watch someone I admire struggle with the same dread and come to the conclusion that everything is still worth it. Also, I find it comforting when I'm feeling nihilistic to remind myself that even if we're all meaningless, we're meaningless together? We all have this fear that we don't matter and experiencing that collectively we kind of give each other meaning.

  • @Cobalt985

    @Cobalt985

    5 ай бұрын

    That's very pretty, I haven't thought of it like that before.

  • @MrFindX
    @MrFindX5 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, this is the John Green we've come to love over the years.

  • @LivinOnBorrowedAngst
    @LivinOnBorrowedAngst5 жыл бұрын

    similar thoughts of stagnation and futility have been circling me like vultures lately. this is a timely reminder that i'm not alone in these thoughts and they don't need to overshadow my view of positivity and progress. it's so weird that, like the polarity you mentioned, one moment i'll be thinking about charity organizations or newly discovered species of frogs or the themes of star trek, feeling optimistic, and the next i'm overwhelmed by the abundance of low-quality products and corruption, entropy... this all has been on my mind a lot lately, and it was good to hear from you about it. i think i'll take "the necessity to struggle" as a bolster going forward.

  • @FutureNow
    @FutureNow5 жыл бұрын

    Several times per day I wonder why I'm so concerned about my life goals if I'm going to die in the not-so-distant future anyway. So can definitely relate to this. It's impressive any of us continue to just live despite this knowledge and do cool things and make new relationships. Thankfully these thoughts tend to be, like our mortality, fleeting.

  • @harleyshanks
    @harleyshanks5 жыл бұрын

    Kind of on topic anecdote: My friend recently asked me if I would ever get an “impulse tattoo”, and I told her “Oh yes.” because to me, my body feels temporary. One day my body will decay into the dirt or be turned to ash, and my tattoos will go with it. C’est la vie. I feel like this is how I look at a lot of things nowadays. I will die and so will everyone else, but I can make a person’s day by smiling at them or trying to make a pretty heart in their latte. (I’m a barista) I can write down all the quotes I love right now in my bullet journal, or listen to the new Marianas Trench album on repeat for days, or take a hundred photos and videos of my friends. And its not for nothing. These small things are things are make me happy right now. Small actions can make others happy right now. And sure, we’re just on a rock floating through space destined for doomsday, but right now? Right now life is beautiful. And if I want a pretty image tattooed on my body “forever”, then that’s beautiful too.

  • @pessimistkai5569
    @pessimistkai55693 жыл бұрын

    John, thank you for existing.

  • @catarinaldi
    @catarinaldi5 жыл бұрын

    It's actually nice to hear that we don't live on the grand scheme of things and that humans are weak and need other people. I always think about how meaningless life is and end up being more depressed and suicidal, so to hear other people saying that yes we are meaningless but just in the great scheme of things and we don't live there, it's a little relief. Thank you Jonh. Thank you all for vlogbrothers and nerdfighters.

  • @whyshouldicarehistory5038
    @whyshouldicarehistory50385 жыл бұрын

    If you wanted a vlogbrothers version of Charlie’s letter at the end of perks.

  • @dixar8589

    @dixar8589

    5 жыл бұрын

    chris cucinotta omg gg

  • @savchil
    @savchil4 ай бұрын

    I relate to you John and so appreciate your ability to eff the seemingly ineffable. Nihilistic thinking is easily acquired, but it is entirely useless and often harmful to the human experience. Existentialism to the rescue!

  • @raphire14
    @raphire145 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of a quote. “Life is short, but it is the longest thing we will ever do.” That quote really changed my perspective on the value of time.

  • @whatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhatw
    @whatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhatw3 жыл бұрын

    hits so different after 2020

  • @dotexemachina
    @dotexemachina5 жыл бұрын

    When I started to grasp the concept of death I started staying that I don't care about life and that nothing really mattered, but if nothing really mattered I wouldn't be thinking this much about it

  • @friendofships
    @friendofships5 жыл бұрын

    The sentiment near the end of the video reminded me of a few favourite lines from RFK's speech 'On the Mindless Menace of Violence'; "Our lives on this planet are too short and the work to be done too great...But we can perhaps remember - even if only for a time - that those who live with us are our brothers, that they share with us the same short movement of life, that they seek - as we do - nothing but the chance to live out their lives in purpose and happiness, winning what satisfaction and fulfilment they can."

  • @FordRasmussen
    @FordRasmussen5 жыл бұрын

    Very insightful. I was at an airport terminal last week, and you know, being there with a bunch of strangers living unique lives really does open the mind. Everyone should experience that every once in a while.

  • @feliciya7152
    @feliciya71525 жыл бұрын

    "Brains are so weird" is the truest thing I heard today.

  • @kezla
    @kezla5 жыл бұрын

    Loved this. I often see the moon in the daytime and think about how pretty it is... which leads to how vast space is... and also how insignificant we are and OMG. But then I take a breath and remind myself that even though we may eventually be insignificant, this moment right now isn't, in the now... And the mood is still pretty 🤓

  • @starryburst863
    @starryburst8635 жыл бұрын

    My cat just died yesterday and I am struggling with the various responsibilities that I have to deal with today while I am haunted by my grief and thoughts over how meaningless all these things are when death is all that awaits in the end. So, thanks John, for making me feel less alone in feeling this way and coping (though it may be a work in progress) with it better.

  • @mariewikiwaka3851
    @mariewikiwaka38515 жыл бұрын

    I love being thrust into crippling apathy and undying hope simultaneously. It really helps quiet the inner musings about my place in the universe.

  • @juno9023
    @juno90235 жыл бұрын

    why is john telling everyone what i think about at 2am????

  • @alishak6073

    @alishak6073

    5 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't 2am in Indianapolis

  • @juno9023

    @juno9023

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@alishak6073 huh?

  • @alishak6073

    @alishak6073

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@juno9023 nevermind

  • @SlayerOfAll10
    @SlayerOfAll103 жыл бұрын

    We're at 2021 now and 2020 made 2019 very forgettable in comparison. I miss the old norm

  • @Extreamkarioke
    @Extreamkarioke5 жыл бұрын

    Today was a long work day, but this somehow helped. In the long-run, statistically speaking, nothing I do will ever matter, but in the short-run everything I do matters, at least to the people I work with, the clients I serve, and the people I love. Everything I do matters until the day it doesn't.

  • @margauxlouise6315
    @margauxlouise63155 жыл бұрын

    This is the kind of thing that I feel like actually helps me cope with my anxiety and constant barrage of intrusive thoughts. Every attempt to shut off the panicked, spiraling voice in my head has failed. But actually confronting those thoughts and out-reasoning them, like John in this video? It's the only thing that can bring me back to Earth

  • @ankurhasija7262
    @ankurhasija72625 жыл бұрын

    No, I am gonna go with companionable silence being the meaning of life.

  • @JulietteTLin
    @JulietteTLin5 жыл бұрын

    wow you sound just like Augustus Waters it's almost like you wrote that novel tfios

  • @yp360
    @yp3605 жыл бұрын

    Undoubtably my now favorite quote “in the grand scheme of things, maybe nothing will matter. But we don’t live in the grand scheme of things” thank you.

  • @flybefree
    @flybefree4 жыл бұрын

    I find the idea that we’ll all be dead in a few decades liberating. We get so bogged down with conforming and living within the box of other people’s expectations. Life is short so we should throw off the shackles of expectation and conformity and live the fullest expression of ourselves, as long as it doesn’t harm others.

  • @CinnamonToast
    @CinnamonToast5 жыл бұрын

    a quote i try to live by: "be where your feet are"

  • @camelopardalis84
    @camelopardalis845 жыл бұрын

    Supply chains are a less mundane topic than you seemingly think they are and the stuff we acquire will not end up in landfills in its entirety since part of it will help the already existing garbage islands grow as well as possibly form new ones. That's all I have to say for now.

  • @vlogbrothers

    @vlogbrothers

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh I love supply chains! We spend a lot of time talking about supply chains at dftba. They are incredibly important! But the thinking I was describing in this video is disordered thinking--it is misplaced anger and oversimplified (and therefore inaccurate) nihilism. Hope that came through in the end. -John

  • @camelopardalis84

    @camelopardalis84

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vlogbrothers You're tuning out the garbage island part of my comment, aren't you?

  • @pnhi2270
    @pnhi22707 ай бұрын

    "I work when I feel hope." I'll remember that. Thank you.

  • @TheatreChick73
    @TheatreChick735 жыл бұрын

    I often find myself watching your videos and exclaiming (albeit in my head so as not to scare those around me) "Oh my goodness, I think that way too!" It makes me feel less alone and less freakish. But then, you take it a step further and comment on the thought patterns in some manner that helps calm me and understand myself better. Thank you so very much for that.